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  • Trump Economic Policy Speech

    by coldwarrior ( 182 Comments › )
    Filed under Donald Trump, Economy, Open thread at August 8th, 2016 - 4:21 pm

    Please read the transcript here or watch the video here:

    Read it for yourself. Watch it for yourself before you get the masticated and regurgitated spun uni-party and press accounts.

    MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND. This is Nationalism versus Globalism Round 1. This is America First. We haven’t had this since the 1980’s.

    Find background here:

    You Isolationist Pig!

    You Isolationist Pig!

    The Cost Of Those Cheap Imports

    Free Trade, huh?

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    182 Responses to “Trump Economic Policy Speech”
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    1. eaglesoars
      1 | August 8, 2016 4:25 pm

      I’m not an economist, but I think he hit it out of the park. The only Clintonistas I’ve seen so far are reduced to “He can’t accomplish that”


    2. RIX
      2 | August 8, 2016 4:31 pm

      I watched it. It seemed well crafted and delivered with substance .


    3. RIX
      3 | August 8, 2016 4:33 pm

      44m
      Hillary Clinton ✔@HillaryClinton
      We’ve got to stand up against climate deniers.

      There isn’t a problem we can’t solve if we put our minds to it: http://hrc.io/2aH13jQ

      Hillary is going after “climate deniers”. Don’t you dare have any independent thought!


    4. coldwarrior
      4 | August 8, 2016 4:34 pm

      the globalists sent a bunch of hecklers and protesters to disrupt it.


    5. eaglesoars
      5 | August 8, 2016 4:36 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      the globalists sent a bunch of hecklers and protesters to disrupt it.

      I don’t know if you had chance to actually watch it. They all looked out of central casting


    6. coldwarrior
      6 | August 8, 2016 4:38 pm

      the reason for the protesters…disrupt soundbites.


    7. coldwarrior
      7 | August 8, 2016 4:39 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      I don’t know if you had chance to actually watch it. They all looked out of central casting

      i expect nothing else from the nevertrumpers, chamber of commerce, and their buddies the globalist socialists.


    8. coldwarrior
      8 | August 8, 2016 4:40 pm

      Next comes regulatory reform

      As with taxes, I will have one overriding goal when it comes to regulation: I want to keep jobs and wealth in America.

      Motor vehicle manufacturing is one of the most heavily regulated industries in the country. The U.S. economy today is twenty-five percent smaller than it would have been without the surge of regulations since 1980.

      It is estimated that current overregulation is costing our economy as much as $2 trillion dollars a year – that’s money taken straight out of cities like yours.

      The federal register is now over 80,000 pages long. As the Wall Street Journal noted, President Obama has issued close to four hundred new major regulations since taking office, each with a cost to the American economy of $100 million or more.

      In 2015 alone, the Obama Administration unilaterally issued more than 2,000 new regulations – each a hidden tax on American consumers, and a massive lead weight on the American economy.

      It is time to remove the anchor dragging us down.

      Upon taking office, I will issue a temporary moratorium on new agency regulations. My running mate, Mike Pence, signed a similar order when he became governor of Indiana. This will give our American companies the certainty they need to reinvest in our community, get cash off of the sidelines, start hiring for new jobs, and expanding businesses.

      I will also immediately cancel all illegal and overreaching executive orders.

      Next, I will ask each and every federal agency to prepare a list of all of the regulations they impose on Americans which are not necessary, do not improve public safety, and which needlessly kill jobs. Those regulations will be eliminated.

      We are in a competition with the world, and I want America to win. When I am president, we will.

      de-regulate.


    9. coldwarrior
      9 | August 8, 2016 4:43 pm

      this is real capitalism…remember what that sounded like before bush sr?


    10. Bumr50
      10 | August 8, 2016 5:14 pm

      George P. Bush, a Trump Holdout, Urges Support For Nominee

      Land Commissioner George P. Bush, who has not endorsed Donald Trump, is now asking Texas Republicans to support the party’s presidential nominee.

      Addressing state GOP activists Saturday, Bush said it was time to put aside any lingering animosity from the primaries — where Trump defeated Bush’s dad, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, among others — and get behind Trump.

      “From Team Bush, it’s a bitter pill to swallow, but you know what? You get back up and you help the man that won, and you make sure that we stop Hillary Clinton,” Bush said, according to video of the remarks provided by an audience member.

      Bush was speaking in his capacity as the Texas GOP’s victory chairman, who is responsible for overseeing the party’s statewide campaign in November. Bush had been criticized for taking the role without backing the party’s presidential nominee.


    11. coldwarrior
      11 | August 8, 2016 5:16 pm

      tickets to the event were $100…so, where did these 17 protesters who were ejected get the money for the tickets? i’m gonna bet that they dont have a job between them….


    12. coldwarrior
      12 | August 8, 2016 5:17 pm

      @ Bumr50:

      well, ok. good for him.


    13. RIX
      13 | August 8, 2016 5:18 pm

      No more “Donkey”.
      The Democrat Party today announced that it is changing its symbol from the Donkey to a Condom because it more accurately reflects the Party’s political stance. A condom allows for inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects a bunch of dicks, and gives you a sense of security while you’re actually being screwed!

      Damn, it just doesn’t get more accurate than that!


    14. eaglesoars
      14 | August 8, 2016 5:19 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      i’m gonna bet that they dont have a job between them….

      au contraire. right out of Land’s End catalog. DNC operatives


    15. coldwarrior
      15 | August 8, 2016 5:20 pm

      @ RIX:

      if its chinese it will break….

      😆


    16. coldwarrior
      16 | August 8, 2016 5:21 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      i’m gonna bet that they dont have a job between them….

      au contraire. right out of Land’s End catalog. DNC operatives

      😆

      ok, sorry, i meant a real job where there is measurable creation of wealth.


    17. RIX
      17 | August 8, 2016 5:21 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ RIX:

      if its chinese it will break….

      Survival of the species .


    18. RIX
      18 | August 8, 2016 5:22 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      i’m gonna bet that they dont have a job between them….

      au contraire. right out of Land’s End catalog. DNC operatives

      Yeah, they did not look like the Occupy group.


    19. Bumr50
      19 | August 8, 2016 5:22 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      “Crisis actors.”

      Although with all the “tiny hands” comments, they sound a lot like some Nevertrumpers I encounter.


    20. lobo91
      20 | August 8, 2016 5:22 pm

      Meanwhile, we get this crap out of the White House:

      White House Touts Article On How Blacks Can “Survive At A White Institution”…

      How does a black student circumnavigate a hotbed of white supremacy that is a contemporary college campus populated by white bodies? How can a student of color thrive at an institution that merely tolerates one’s presence? Put simply, what must a black student do to survive at a PWI?


    21. Bumr50
      21 | August 8, 2016 5:23 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      if its chinese

      It’s probably also really tight…


    22. coldwarrior
      22 | August 8, 2016 5:25 pm

      Bumr50 wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      if its chinese

      It’s probably also really tight…

      ha ha! you funny man round eye!


    23. coldwarrior
      23 | August 8, 2016 5:27 pm

      RIX wrote:

      Yeah, they did not look like the Occupy group.

      i bet that you cant get into that event without a jacket and tie or upper business casual and business dress for females. i’ve been to a couple of events like this in PGH a few years ago, it was jacket and tie.


    24. Bumr50
      24 | August 8, 2016 5:27 pm

      @ lobo91:

      “It is important for students of color to remember that predominantly white colleges and universities are still historically white,” says Elon Dancy, professor of education and associate dean for community engagement and academic inclusion at the University of Oklahoma and author of The Brother Code: Manhood and Masculinity Among African American Males in College.

      “So while these institutions may ‘admit’ people of color, they still have ways of not accepting them,” he says. “We continue to see this in campus culture and climate data in which whites are overrepresented in university leadership, faculty and in the student body. Furthermore, for every overt racist incident we think of as long gone, there are thousands of contemporary violent acts often referred to as ‘microaggressions’ that seek to keep students of color ‘in their place.’ Until these institutions address these realities with deep, truly culturally responsive policies, the campuses will always be places to be survived.”


    25. coldwarrior
      25 | August 8, 2016 5:29 pm


    26. lobo91
      26 | August 8, 2016 5:34 pm

      @ Bumr50:

      “Until these institutions address these realities with deep, truly culturally responsive policies, the campuses will always be places to be survived.”

      Guess what? there are 5 times as many whites in America as there are blacks. If you can’t handle attending a university where you’re a member of a small minority, you won’t like the real world, either.


    27. eaglesoars
      27 | August 8, 2016 5:37 pm

      Bumr50 wrote:

      Until these institutions address these realities with deep, truly culturally responsive policies, the campuses will always be places to be survived.”

      there are all-black universities. try those. oh, then you wouldn’t have anybody to blame or anything to bitch about.


    28. eaglesoars
      28 | August 8, 2016 5:40 pm

      Bumr50 wrote:

      deep, truly culturally responsive policies

      I’d like to hear an example of that one. A ‘gimme’ 20 points on all exams? Shakespeare taught in ghetto rap?


    29. RIX
      29 | August 8, 2016 5:43 pm

      http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/50-turncoat-republicans-sign-letter-opposing-trump-national-security-say-benghazi-hillary-better/
      @ Gateway Pundit
      50 former Republican (mostly Bushies)sign a letter in opposition to Donald Trump on foreign policy.
      Apparently they prefer endless nation building wars, instead of wiping out ISIS.


    30. RIX
      30 | August 8, 2016 5:46 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      Yeah, they did not look like the Occupy group.

      i bet that you cant get into that event without a jacket and tie or upper business casual and business dress for females. i’ve been to a couple of events like this in PGH a few years ago, it was jacket and tie.

      I would not doubt that for something sponsored by the Detroit Economic Club. The protestors were handled very
      well, and I think that the situation actually advanced Trump.


    31. lobo91
      31 | August 8, 2016 5:47 pm

      Benghazi families sue Clinton for wrongful death, defamation

      Parents of two Benghazi victims have sued Hillary Clinton, arguing that she caused the death of their sons and later defamed them in statements made to the media, according to court documents.

      “During her campaign for President, Defendant Clinton has negligently, recklessly, and/or maliciously defamed Plaintiffs by either directly calling them liars, or by strongly implying that they are liars, in order to protect and enhance her public image and intimidate and emotionally harm and silence them not to speak up about the Benghazi attack on at least four separate occasions,” Larry Klayman, an attorney for the families, wrote in his complaint.

      The suit was brought by Charles Woods and Pat Smith, parents of Benghazi victims Tyrone Woods and Sean Smith, respectively.

      The suit also suggests Clinton’s use of a private server to handle classified emails could have contributed to the deaths.

      “Having used a secret private email server that we now know was used to communicate with Ambassador Christopher Stevens with confidential and classified government information, and which we also now know was likely hacked by hostile adversaries such as Iran, Russia, China and North Korea aligning with terrorist groups, it is clear that Hillary Clinton allegedly negligently and recklessly gave up the classified location of the plaintiffs’ sons, resulting in a deadly terrorist attack that took their lives,” Klayman said in a statement.


    32. eaglesoars
      32 | August 8, 2016 5:48 pm

      @ lobo91:

      yeah, their lawyer, Larry Klayman, is a bit ‘iffy’


    33. RIX
      33 | August 8, 2016 5:50 pm

      @ Bumr50:
      @ coldwarrior:
      The most sensitive words ever are “I rub ru rong time”


    34. eaglesoars
      34 | August 8, 2016 5:51 pm

      RIX wrote:

      50 former Republican (mostly Bushies)sign a letter in opposition to Donald Trump on foreign policy.
      Apparently they prefer endless nation building wars, instead of wiping out ISIS.

      You know what? I don’t think anybody cares what they think. I doubt anybody even notices and if they do – well, *shrug*


    35. eaglesoars
      35 | August 8, 2016 5:59 pm

      AH AH!! The Five just put the Hillary photo from Drudge up


    36. coldwarrior
      36 | August 8, 2016 6:07 pm

      RIX wrote:

      @ Bumr50:
      @ coldwarrior:
      The most sensitive words ever are “I rub ru rong time”

      😆


    37. RIX
      37 | August 8, 2016 6:10 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      50 former Republican (mostly Bushies)sign a letter in opposition to Donald Trump on foreign policy.
      Apparently they prefer endless nation building wars, instead of wiping out ISIS.

      You know what? I don’t think anybody cares what they think. I doubt anybody even notices and if they do – well, *shrug*

      I am sure that is the case, and that is the irony. Maybe the NRO crew , and other snot nose Millennials are ready
      to issue another Manifesto. Nobody would care about that with the exception of Megyn Kelly , who would no doubt
      have them on. Last time she interviewed them on split screen so she could be seen emoting. Then of course she
      giggled like a sorority pledge.


    38. RIX
      38 | August 8, 2016 6:14 pm

      http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/08/trump-fundraises-off-left-wing-protesters/
      @ Breitbart
      Trump Campaign now fund raising using protestors. Smart.


    39. coldwarrior
      39 | August 8, 2016 6:20 pm

      the hill

      photoshopped propganda


    40. rain of lead
      40 | August 8, 2016 6:21 pm

      hey y’all
      momcat has news from Iron Fists wife’s facebook page

      she say he is fading fast
      his radiation treatments have been cancelled and hospice has been called

      she’s doing everything she can to keep him comfortable but she’s really tired.

      momcat sent a post saying everyone here sends as much love and as many prayers as they can

      she (mafia princess) said she will post an update later this evening
      when she does I will pass it along


    41. coldwarrior
      41 | August 8, 2016 6:23 pm

      @ RIX:

      NRO is dead.

      sad. i used to subscribe to the dead tree version, and that was all the way back in 9th grade (early 80’s)…carried it with me all the time.

      shame such a great mag and voice for the right is dead.


    42. coldwarrior
      42 | August 8, 2016 6:23 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      his radiation treatments have been cancelled and hospice has been called

      that’s game.

      dammit.


    43. rain of lead
      43 | August 8, 2016 6:26 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      the tone of her posts implies that it will be soon…very soon
      🙁


    44. coldwarrior
      44 | August 8, 2016 6:27 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:

      the tone of her posts implies that it will be soon…very soon

      yeah.


    45. eaglesoars
      45 | August 8, 2016 6:38 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      rain of lead wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:

      the tone of her posts implies that it will be soon…very soon

      yeah.

      I will be there Weds.


    46. eaglesoars
      46 | August 8, 2016 6:47 pm

      This McMullen guy who just declared he’s running says Trump is ‘inhuman’


    47. lobo91
      47 | August 8, 2016 6:50 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      This McMullen guy who just declared he’s running says Trump is ‘inhuman’

      Has he heard of Hillary Clinton?


    48. eaglesoars
      48 | August 8, 2016 6:51 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      the hill

      photoshopped propganda

      the actual body count was 171


    49. coldwarrior
      49 | August 8, 2016 6:54 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      the hill

      photoshopped propganda

      the actual body count was 171

      the propaganda from the globalists is just over the top this cycle.

      they have The Fear.


    50. Bumr50
      50 | August 8, 2016 6:54 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      I’m noticing a strong Utah Mormon undercurrent in the Nevertrump movement.


    51. eaglesoars
      51 | August 8, 2016 6:55 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      Has he heard of Hillary Clinton?

      Has he heard of state ballot deadlines?


    52. eaglesoars
      52 | August 8, 2016 6:56 pm

      Bumr50 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      I’m noticing a strong Utah Mormon undercurrent in the Nevertrump movement.

      does make you wonder doesn’t it?


    53. Bumr50
      53 | August 8, 2016 6:57 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      None of the local Mormons I know are afflicted.

      It just seems to be close to the hive.


    54. coldwarrior
      54 | August 8, 2016 6:59 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      check email.


    55. RIX
      55 | August 8, 2016 6:59 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      This McMullen guy who just declared he’s running says Trump is ‘inhuman’

      Nice rational delivery ./


    56. coldwarrior
      56 | August 8, 2016 7:00 pm

      Bumr50 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      I’m noticing a strong Utah Mormon undercurrent in the Nevertrump movement.

      what is this, romney in 64?

      i’ve about had it with that crowd.


    57. eaglesoars
      57 | August 8, 2016 7:11 pm

      I has da chores

      later


    58. coldwarrior
      58 | August 8, 2016 7:26 pm

      Bumr50 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      None of the local Mormons I know are afflicted.

      It just seems to be close to the hive.

      agreed. i know two families, and they are rabid trump. both are small business owners.


    59. vapig
      59 | August 8, 2016 7:53 pm

      @ rain of lead:
      I’m so sorry to hear that. He and his family are definitely in my prayers.


    60. Bumr50
      60 | August 8, 2016 8:11 pm

      ‘Never Trump’ Taps Their Candidate: Bald Unknown Mormon Hill Staffer from Goldman Sachs Who ‘Resettled’ Refugees for UN

      http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/08/never-trump-taps-their-candidate-bald-unknown-mormon-hill-staffer-from-goldman-sachs-who-resettled-refugees-for-un/


    61. eaglesoars
      61 | August 8, 2016 8:13 pm

      HAHAHAHAHA!!!

      Never Trump’ Taps Their Candidate: Bald Unknown Mormon Hill Staffer from Goldman Sachs Who ‘Resettled’ Refugees for UN

      ok, Breibart is not a snark-free zone…………


    62. eaglesoars
      62 | August 8, 2016 8:13 pm

      @ Bumr50:

      HEY! KNOCK IT OFF!!


    63. coldwarrior
      63 | August 8, 2016 8:17 pm

      the girls want to sleep in the princess pirate tree house ship….

      so i must make ready the sails!

      YARRRR!!!!!

      bbl…


    64. Bumr50
      64 | August 8, 2016 8:18 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Yes, ma’am.

      Rick Wilson: ‘We’ll Lose Religious Liberty,’ 2nd Amendment with President Hillary — but Trump Is Worse!

      I want to be clear here. As a principled conservative, I loathe the high likelihood that Hillary Clinton will — barring a bear attack or some other unforeseen externality — win this election.

      She’ll nominate liberal Supreme Court justices. We’ll lose religious liberty. We’ll have our Second Amendment freedoms compromised. Chuck Schumer’s immigration bill is going to be so bad it will make many of us beg for the Gang of Eight.

      However, Trump would be far worse. He’d be more dangerous to our safety and our republic. And since I know his loss is coming, I pray to God that it is total. You should, too.

      The problem, Rick, is that I agree with Trumps positions. And there are millions of me.

      Donald Trump losing doesn’t change that.

      And let’s face it, you’re WAY too angry for this to be about “temperament.”


    65. eaglesoars
      65 | August 8, 2016 8:19 pm

      smithsonian is doing a pompeii thing w/Mary beard – later


    66. lobo91
      66 | August 8, 2016 8:33 pm

      @ Bumr50:

      Those three paragraphs were actually the least insane of the entire screed


    67. RIX
      67 | August 8, 2016 8:34 pm

      @ Bumr50:
      When I hear someone describe himself as a “principled conservative” I know that I am listening to a pompous ass.
      And then I hear more, they are either hangers on trying to be part of the cool kids, or they are scared to death
      that the gravy train will be derailed.


    68. Bumr50
      68 | August 8, 2016 8:44 pm

      @ lobo91:

      You mean this?

      My Southern grandmother often used a phrase that a lot of folks south of the Mason-Dixon line of a certain age will remember. It was always delivered in a low, calm voice: “Go outside get a switch.” You knew at that point that whatever childhood misbehavior you were engaged in was about to come to a halt, painfully.

      Well, Trump voters, it’s your turn. Go get a switch. I’m not going to coddle you and say you’re really smart and good people and this is just a misunderstanding. That’s just what the PC crowd does on the left.

      Trumpkins don’t deserve a participation trophy for wrecking the party and saddling the nation with Hillary. They made the crazy the enemy of the good, and centered an entire campaign on rage, fear and an eternally shrinking spiral of cult-worship and fanaticism.

      They dragged one of America’s great political parties from the back of a truck.

      To begin to repair the damage done, they need to see not that their way almost succeeded, if only one or two states had broken differently. They must absorb the painful reality that their way cannot, will not, ever work again.

      So when it’s over, Trumpkins, remember: You’re not purging us. We’re purging you.


    69. vapig
      69 | August 8, 2016 8:53 pm

      Clockboy is suing school – and no doubt will win – after he brings something that looks like a bomb to school. Chew a pop-tart into the shape of a gun will get you suspended with a court declaring the school was right to suspend a 6 year old.


    70. 70 | August 8, 2016 8:54 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      Hell, there’s a guy on Twitter who calls Trump supporters ‘neofascist’. I’d bet he’s a Cruz backer (I was too) who won’t give up.


    71. rain of lead
      71 | August 8, 2016 8:55 pm

      just released

      In a BRAND NEW leak late last night, Julian Assange (Editor-In-Chief for WikiLeaks) not only guaranteed that he had enough evidence on Hillary Clinton to put her in jail, he released a PDF file that we have our hands on.

      https://conservativedailypost.com/breaking-julian-assange-just-delivered-the-next-batch-of-emails-shes-toast/

      Remember about a month ago when you saw thousands of people in Turkey try to pull off a coup against their leader Erdoğan? WikiLeaks has proven Hillary Clinton was one of the chief architects behind that.

      hmmm
      nah, the gatekeepers will just ignore it


    72. vapig
      72 | August 8, 2016 9:26 pm

      mfhorn wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      Hell, there’s a guy on Twitter who calls Trump supporters ‘neofascist’. I’d bet he’s a Cruz backer (I was too) who won’t give up.

      Or a leftist who is projecting. Ever since Hitler called his ideology right-wing (it’s JUST to the right of communism) the left have been calling the right nazi’s and fascists ever since. It’s too bad they can’t see their own obama is following Hitlers playbook almost to the letter.


    73. vapig
      73 | August 8, 2016 9:30 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      just released

      In a BRAND NEW leak late last night, Julian Assange (Editor-In-Chief for WikiLeaks) not only guaranteed that he had enough evidence on Hillary Clinton to put her in jail, he released a PDF file that we have our hands on.

      https://conservativedailypost.com/breaking-julian-assange-just-delivered-the-next-batch-of-emails-shes-toast/

      Remember about a month ago when you saw thousands of people in Turkey try to pull off a coup against their leader Erdoğan? WikiLeaks has proven Hillary Clinton was one of the chief architects behind that.

      hmmm
      nah, the gatekeepers will just ignore it

      Unless she was in cahoots with Erdogan, I don’t see why she would do this. Erdogan wants a caliphate with Turkey at its head. Hillary wants the West to fall and is importing muslims into the country to facilitate the demise of the US. Why would she HELP pro-secularist in Turkey?


    74. eaglesoars
      74 | August 8, 2016 9:32 pm

      mfhorn wrote:

      Hell, there’s a guy on Twitter who calls Trump supporters ‘neofascist’.

      you know, it just gets old and trite


    75. RIX
      75 | August 8, 2016 9:42 pm

      Switched over from the Olympics to Fox at a commercial. I was just in time to see the new GOPe hope
      Evan McMullin. Uh no, not very impressive. He has no predicate for running other than the other two are
      Satanic or something. Even though he has missed the deadline for getting on the ballot for about half
      of the states, he said that hey have a plan to get on them. That of course would be law suits.
      I see the finger prints of Bill Kristol, Erick Erickson, Glenn Beck , and Ted Cruz. They figure if they
      can throw the election into the House one of their “principled conservatives” will get it.There are no principles
      at play at all. Cruz still thinks that he is on a mission from God.


    76. Bumr50
      76 | August 8, 2016 9:45 pm

      @ RIX:

      Becks plan is to simply keep anyone from 270, then have the House install Mittens.


    77. Bumr50
      77 | August 8, 2016 9:48 pm

      @ RIX:
      @ Bumr50:

      Again, their plan seems to hinge on the idea that once Trump loses all of his voters will simply “see the error of their ways,” feel shame, and fall in line.


    78. RIX
      78 | August 8, 2016 9:51 pm

      Bumr50 wrote:

      @ RIX:

      Becks plan is to simply keep anyone from 270, then have the House install Mittens.

      That makes sense, and probably has something to do with both being Mormons. I have never seen Mormon
      finger prints like his before. I wonder if the plan is for Utah to be the catalyst.


    79. RIX
      79 | August 8, 2016 9:53 pm

      Bumr50 wrote:

      @ RIX:
      @ Bumr50:

      Again, their plan seems to hinge on the idea that once Trump loses all of his voters will simply “see the error of their ways,” feel shame, and fall in line.

      Right, and we will all have to cleanse the stains from our souls. I swear There is nuttiness afoot.


    80. Lily
      80 | August 8, 2016 10:05 pm

      @ rain of lead:
      Oh no! My poor friend… Please, please tell her I will be praying for them both.


    81. Lily
      81 | August 8, 2016 10:05 pm

      @ rain of lead:
      Oh no….


    82. eaglesoars
      82 | August 8, 2016 10:24 pm

      Bumr50 wrote:

      @ RIX:

      Becks plan is to simply keep anyone from 270, then have the House install Mittens.

      over Paul Ryan’s body………


    83. AZfederalist
      83 | August 8, 2016 10:27 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      So sorry to hear that. I knew when he posted his diagnosis that there was not a lot of hope — had a former colleague who gets tested every year to make sure they catch anything early because the survival rate is so low — he has a family history and another colleague who passed away last year from this same thing. IF has been a faithful witness to his Lord and Savior and I know he will stand on that last day with the Lord. It is just a shame to lose someone like that so young. Prayers for his wife and family.


    84. AZfederalist
      84 | August 8, 2016 10:31 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      what is this, romney in 64?

      Yep, look what that got us — LBJ: Welfare, Medicare, the Gun Control Act of 1968. Oh and Vietnam with rules of engagement guaranteed to cause defeat. Guns and Butter, War on Poverty — Yep, great.

      Sure the elites can live with a tyrant for a few year — its the rest of us who suffer. For decades afterwards


    85. eaglesoars
      85 | August 8, 2016 10:33 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      Zip has a prayer thread up


    86. Bumr50
      86 | August 8, 2016 10:33 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      Amen.

      His testimony has moved and still moves me.


    87. eaglesoars
      87 | August 8, 2016 10:38 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      Sure the elites can live with a tyrant for a few year

      that’s because they all want the job


    88. Bumr50
      88 | August 8, 2016 10:38 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      They think a) they’re still going to have a viable party to rescue in 2020, b) that everyone who voted Trump is going to forget that they spent over a year calling them idiot rednecks, and c) that those same people will support whatever platform they devise.

      They are delusional, standoffish, and defiant at every turn.

      Wilson is blaming Trump voters (that’s who they’re REALLY mad at more than Trump himself) preemptively for a Hillary victory while simultaneously undermining the only viable alternative.

      Unhinged.


    89. lobo91
      89 | August 8, 2016 10:40 pm

      @ RIX:

      They figure if they can throw the election into the House one of their “principled conservatives” will get it.

      So that’s what they’re up to. At least it makes some kind of sense.

      I was trying to figure out WTF some guy nobody’s ever heard of was doing announcing his candidacy after the filing deadlines have already passed in 26 states.

      He’s not actually trying to win, just to make sure that nobody does.

      Good luck with that…


    90. vapig
      90 | August 8, 2016 10:43 pm

      Bumr50 wrote:

      @ RIX:
      @ Bumr50:

      Again, their plan seems to hinge on the idea that once Trump loses all of his voters will simply “see the error of their ways,” feel shame, and fall in line.

      I’d be more inclined to rally behind a 3rd party.


    91. AZfederalist
      91 | August 8, 2016 10:49 pm

      Bumr50 wrote:

      Trumpkins don’t deserve a participation trophy for wrecking the party and saddling the nation with Hillary.

      Nope, you GOP elites and your constant bending over for Obama and lack of spines and balls did that your own selves

      They dragged one of America’s great political parties from the back of a truck.

      Again, you did that your own selves and now are trying to blame those who have been trying since 2010 to fix it. We gave you the House and the only thing the Weeper of the House Boehner did was capitulate to Obama. Then you went after the very people who put you back in charge and joined the democrats in demonizing the Tea Party. In 2012, you made sure your guy, Romney was the nominee, we were all told after the primaries that “now was the time to stand together and close ranks around the nominee”. Yep, we did that as you sent out the paluka candidate to take the fall. We’ll give you credit, at least he ran a half-assed campaign, a full half ass more than that spineless wimp (unless he’s running against a fellow republican, then he’s El Diablo) McCain put forth in 2008. Heck, McCain may as well have been on Obama’s campaign staff the way he ran his campaign. So you now have the nerve to lecture those of us who have said, “Enough!”. You wouldn’t listen when we tried Palin or Walker or other conservative candidates, you just schemed around them. To get you to listen we had to find our own SOB who wouldn’t back down and who would take the fight to you. We didn’t raise up Trump — you enabled him.

      To begin to repair the damage done, they need to see not that their way almost succeeded, if only one or two states had broken differently. They must absorb the painful reality that their way cannot, will not, ever work again.

      Kind of full of yourself, aren’t you? We’ve pretty much had it with you. We listened and we closed ranks when *your* candidate won the primaries. Now, when we’ve made the “wrong” choice, you not only refuse to endorse, you jump into the enemy camp and actively seek his defeat. There is a term for that, let’s see, it’s on the tip of my tongue, oh yeah — Treason!

      So when it’s over, Trumpkins, remember: You’re not purging us. We’re purging you.

      Heh, good luck with that. You think a solid defeat of Trump after you’ve openly campaigned against him is going to drive us, tails tucked between our legs to you? After you’ve as much as admitted that you are OK with Hillary destroying the First andSecond amendments? When we now know that if we give you power again in the future you won’t actually reverse anything, you’ll just put on the brakes a little? Yeah, good luck with that. It would have been different if you’d have fully supported and worked to try to get Trump elected (you know, the nominee of your party, chosen by even your twisted rules?). But since you are actively campaigning against him, we aren’t coming back if he loses big. We’ll go third party, sit it out, whatever, but you will never, ever be a major party again. Your little temper tantrum is going to sent you the way of the Whigs.


    92. eaglesoars
      92 | August 8, 2016 10:50 pm

      Bumr50 wrote:

      Wilson is blaming Trump voters (that’s who they’re REALLY mad at more than Trump himself) preemptively for a Hillary victory while simultaneously undermining the only viable alternative.

      Unhinged.

      It never occurs to these people that they utterly failed to present a viable alternative, ‘viable’ being somebody most people would, like, you know, VOTE FOR


    93. AZfederalist
      93 | August 8, 2016 10:52 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Zip has a prayer thread up

      Thanks.


    94. eaglesoars
      94 | August 8, 2016 10:55 pm

      Dr Marc Siegal and another doc are on Hannity wanting to see Hillary’s med records. He’s suggesting post-concussion syndrome, e.g., football players


    95. lobo91
      95 | August 8, 2016 10:56 pm

      $375,000 Deposited To The Khan Law Account From The Clinton Foundation

      Payment for services rendered at the DNC?


    96. eaglesoars
      96 | August 8, 2016 11:01 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      $375,000 Deposited To The Khan Law Account From The Clinton Foundation

      Payment for services rendered at the DNC?

      do you ever wonder why they think they can still get away with this stuff?


    97. eaglesoars
      97 | August 8, 2016 11:07 pm

      I’m going to bed. nite.


    98. Bumr50
      98 | August 8, 2016 11:10 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Nite, eagle.


    99. Bumr50
      99 | August 8, 2016 11:12 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      It never occurs to these people that they utterly failed to present a viable alternative, ‘viable’ being somebody most people would, like, you know, VOTE FOR

      These particular people were the ones with all of the think tanks, pollsters, and analytics groups at their disposal.

      They couldn’t figure out that NOBODY likes Jeb Bush?


    100. Aussie Infidel
      100 | August 8, 2016 11:14 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ RIX:

      if its chinese it will break….

      The Chinese were accused of dumping steel at below production cost in NZ for a major infrastructure upgrade. To add insult to injury the steel was way below specification and was essentially worthless for serious building. It was rejected based on actual lab testing.

      In immediate response the Chinese government through surrogates warned Zespri the NZ marketing firm running all Kiwifruit exports to China and the world that a certain fungi had been ‘discovered’ in NZ Kiwifruit and therefore the $2 billion Kiwifruit industry was under threat of being excluded from the Chinese marketplace. The trouble was that the fungi was present in most fruit of ALL types shipped globally and was totally benign and harmless.

      The Chinese tried to ‘monster New Zealand because they could by using pretend arguments within a totally different industry to extort NZ compliance to substandard Chinese steel dumped exports. Beware of becoming too reliant on Chinese trade as they are totally amoral and even criminal in their business tactics to get their own way.

      Small trading nations like NZ and Australia are most at risk from a China that is criminal in its trading intent.


    101. AZfederalist
      101 | August 8, 2016 11:18 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      do you ever wonder why they think they can still get away with this stuff?

      but, but, they are a charitable organization and Kahn does refugee work. Yeah, that’s the ticket.


    102. Calo
      102 | August 8, 2016 11:18 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Night, Eagles.

      Please plant a kiss on IF’s cheek for all of us at this little corner of the blogosphere on Wednesday and give him all of our well wishes.

      And, a big hug to his wife, Velvet Glove.

      May God give her strength to nuture IF through this stage, with grace.


    103. CynicalConservative
      103 | August 8, 2016 11:23 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      !!!!

      /galt


    104. Lily
      104 | August 8, 2016 11:53 pm

      @ Bumr50:
      Yes it does…


    105. Lily
      105 | August 8, 2016 11:56 pm

      @ Calo:
      Same for me eagle…
      Well said {{Calo}}!


    106. Daffy Duck
      106 | August 9, 2016 7:30 am

      @ rain of lead:

      That sux. Prayers to Iron Fist, and his family.


    107. RIX
      107 | August 9, 2016 8:01 am

      http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/890/article/p2p-88061485/
      @ Chicago Tribune
      The Khans will address a Muslim Convention in Rosemont Illinois. Tje author of the piece with an Arabic
      name refers to Trumps “repeated” criticisms of the military. That’s bull, he has criticized the mismanagement
      of he troops. The Khans are playing us, and the MSM cant’t wait to help.


    108. eaglesoars
      108 | August 9, 2016 8:20 am

      @ RIX:

      no. the MSM are playing the Kahns. They’ll get stepped on and the MSM will develop the usual case of amnesia and forget them like a used condom dropped in the parking lot behind the strip mall.


    109. RIX
      109 | August 9, 2016 8:38 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      Maybe they’re playing each other. But I do think that the Khans are running a hustle to get paid cash,
      promote “peaceful” Islam and affect an election. I just saw one of the guys who signed the latest
      anti Trump letter. His reason? the way he treated “the Gold Star” parents.


    110. eaglesoars
      110 | August 9, 2016 8:45 am

      RIX wrote:

      I just saw one of the guys who signed the latest
      anti Trump letter. His reason? the way he treated “the Gold Star” parents.

      yeah, I saw him. It’s bullshit. That entire letter is bullshit. Suicide notes are usually signed by just one person.


    111. eaglesoars
      111 | August 9, 2016 9:36 am

      Oh, yeah, did they ever find his wife?

      Apparently, the father of Omar Mateen, the radical Islamic terrorist who committed the deadliest terror attack on American soil since Sept 11, is a big fan of Hillary Clinton. Clinton held a rally in Kissimmee, FL, a suburb of Orlando, the site of June’s terror attack. She began her rally by paying tribute to those who were slaughtered by Mateen while the terrorist’s father, Seddique Mateen, sat right behind her, prominently displayed and in full view of the camera. . . . You’ll remember Clinton-supporter Sateen has ties with the Taliban, has run for president of Afghanistan, produces anti-American YouTube video shows and has suggested that the Pulse nightclub is partially to blame for his son’s murderous rampage.”

      I need to find a new version of ‘WFT?’


    112. 112 | August 9, 2016 9:55 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      I cannot hear that woman talk without wanting to tear my face off as a distraction. I see that after Trump’s speech she went on and on about how it was a rehashing of “Trickle Down Economics” – I imagine to harken back to Reagan.

      She should do some research on that (actually she should do some research on so many things) – and maybe check the figures on the Reagan recovery – which her own husband benefitted from when he took credit for the dot.com boom.

      I like most of Trump’s economic ideas – I’m not as big on the tariffs, but I think he ESPECIALLY gets it on the idea of the reduction of the corporate and repatriation taxes and the elimination of the death tax.


    113. RIX
      113 | August 9, 2016 10:50 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      I just saw one of the guys who signed the latest
      anti Trump letter. His reason? the way he treated “the Gold Star” parents.

      yeah, I saw him. It’s bullshit. That entire letter is bullshit. Suicide notes are usually signed by just one person.

      I think that their outrage is astro turfed. I can’t prove it, but I think hat their real distaste is that Trump is not
      a member of the club.


    114. RIX
      114 | August 9, 2016 10:59 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      http://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2016/08/09/damage-control-in-progress-clinton-campaign-responds-to-report-that-orlando-terrorists-father-attended-rally/
      @ Twitchy
      Hillary is in damage control over Matteen being at her rally. I do not believe in guilt through association.
      Anybody can support you, but Trump doesn’t get a pass. I do have a question, do you need to be vetted
      to sit directly behind the candidate getting face time?


    115. 115 | August 9, 2016 11:00 am

      @ RIX:

      He did not DISS Gold Star parents. He dissed a guy that went on a national stage and attacked HIM personally. This is so de rigueur for liberals and Democrats. They send out someone with supposed “moral authority” to attack so that they can point fingers with “shame! shame!” when these people get answered back. Kahn was shown to support Sharia Law over Constitutional Law and got his ass handed to him by the right-wing blogosphere – so much so that he had to take his website down.

      But they’ve done it before – the 9/11 widows and the 9/11 commission; Cindy the Tool Sheehan. Yeah, a Gold Star mother who surfed to prominence on her son’s coffin. Once Obama got in office no one told her that she needed to shut up about the war.


    116. eaglesoars
      116 | August 9, 2016 11:05 am

      RIX wrote:

      I do have a question, do you need to be vetted
      to sit directly behind the candidate getting face time?

      I believe so. The Secret Service is very particular about who gets near the candidate.


    117. 117 | August 9, 2016 11:05 am

      @ RIX:

      No he wouldn’t. It would be the lead story on MSLSD, CNN, and every other alphabet channel. Clinton would be talking about it in every speech.


    118. Guggi
      118 | August 9, 2016 11:07 am

      @ rain of lead:

      OmG all my love for IF and his wife.


    119. 119 | August 9, 2016 11:10 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      I’ve been calling him Evan “McMuffin” on Twitter. He trended for all of an hour and then faded fast. If he was hoping for a mention on either Rush or Levin’s show he failed miserably – neither mentioned him. There are at least 25 states that have closed the ballot for November already but he’s planning to “sue” to get on. On what grounds? The election laws were in place long before he decided to run. Maybe he’s hoping for a lecturn during the debate. Yeah, I don’t think so.


    120. eaglesoars
      120 | August 9, 2016 11:12 am

      U.S. Productivity Plunges For 3rd Quarter In A Row – Longest Losing Streak Since 1979

      Also I wanted to mention an Aspect of Trump’s plan people may not be aware of. Death taxes. Right now, you have to be worth millions (5 for an individual, 10 fr a couple, I think), for them to kick in. A lot of people may think that Trump is pandering to the wealthy by eliminating them.

      What people don’t know is how those taxes hit farmers. Their land can be worth 10s of millions of dollars, but farmers are cash poor. Their heirs have no way to pay those taxes and the farms get broken up and sold to pay them.

      just an fyi


    121. vapig
      121 | August 9, 2016 11:16 am

      Good morning, everybody!


    122. eaglesoars
      122 | August 9, 2016 11:16 am

      Carolina Girl wrote:

      Maybe he’s hoping for a lecturn during the debate.

      I’ve heard he’s a way to siphon off votes, giving people another name. The problem with that idea is that people can ALWAYS write in anybody, including their dog. So that doesn’t fly.

      And you need 15-17% in the polls to get on the debate stage.

      Putin is moving his tanks around. Pay attention.


    123. eaglesoars
      123 | August 9, 2016 11:18 am

      Guggi wrote:

      @ rain of lead:

      OmG all my love for IF and his wife.

      Hi Guggi!

      Merkel saying anyhing about Putin/Erdogan meeting today?


    124. eaglesoars
      124 | August 9, 2016 11:21 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Putin is moving his tanks around. Pay attention.

      Gold is at $1340 and change


    125. 125 | August 9, 2016 11:31 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      Tanks at the border with Ukraine. It’s interesting that Putin is doing this now. Challenge to Obama? To see how the candidates react to it? I have vague recollection of Ukraine surrendering weapons awhile ago at OBAMA’s urging and now are completely vulnerable.

      @ eaglesoars:

      I remember when Gold hit $800 during the Carter administration and it was considered economic catastrophe. Home mortgages at 21%. People forget what an economic mess Reagan inherited and was able to turn around so well.


    126. vapig
      126 | August 9, 2016 11:32 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      What people don’t know is how those taxes hit farmers. Their land can be worth 10s of millions of dollars, but farmers are cash poor. Their heirs have no way to pay those taxes and the farms get broken up and sold to pay them.

      just an fyi

      Good point. Thanks for pointing it out. Small shop keepers is another “multi-million” dollar business type that is usually cash poor for the heirs.


    127. 127 | August 9, 2016 11:35 am

      @ vapig:

      The reason Penny Chenery had to sell shares in Secretariat was to pay the death taxes on her father’s farm.


    128. eaglesoars
      128 | August 9, 2016 11:36 am

      Carolina Girl wrote:

      I have vague recollection of Ukraine surrendering weapons awhile ago at OBAMA’s urging and now are completely vulnerable.

      missiles. something about missiles.

      gotta hop back later


    129. 129 | August 9, 2016 11:37 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      I’ve heard he’s a way to siphon off votes, giving people another name. The problem with that idea is that people can ALWAYS write in anybody, including their dog. So that doesn’t fly.

      Of course, it doesn’t occur to those people that he might just siphon off votes for Beastie instead. Do we know what money is behind him? I’m guessing begins and ends with the letter “S” for Snake in the Grass.


    130. Guggi
      130 | August 9, 2016 11:51 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Merkel saying anyhing about Putin/Erdogan meeting today?

      hehe, hell no.


    131. vapig
      131 | August 9, 2016 12:12 pm

      Carolina Girl wrote:

      @ vapig:

      The reason Penny Chenery had to sell shares in Secretariat was to pay the death taxes on her father’s farm.

      That must have been heartbreaking!


    132. vapig
      132 | August 9, 2016 12:30 pm

      Guggi wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Merkel saying anyhing about Putin/Erdogan meeting today?

      hehe, hell no.

      Wonder what those 2 would have to talk about? Erdogan has been shooting down Russian jets. I can’t imagine Putin having anything nice to say.


    133. coldwarrior
      133 | August 9, 2016 12:39 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Dr Marc Siegal and another doc are on Hannity wanting to see Hillary’s med records. He’s suggesting post-concussion syndrome, e.g., football players

      she either had a stroke or a subdural bleed with lasting injury.


    134. coldwarrior
      134 | August 9, 2016 12:40 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      agreed.

      and i’m keeping my trap shut. i wont type what i want to say about these guys


    135. 135 | August 9, 2016 12:49 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      Amazing the attitude when the Establishment is finally told by the electorate to hold THEIR noses and vote (for a change).


    136. 136 | August 9, 2016 12:50 pm

      Is there a reason my comment is being moderated, CW?


    137. coldwarrior
      137 | August 9, 2016 12:58 pm

      Carolina Girl wrote:

      @ vapig:

      The reason Penny Chenery had to sell shares in Secretariat was to pay the death taxes on her father’s farm.

      death taxes are the single most immoral and disgusting tax that i can think of. i dont care how wealthy a family is either.

      death taxes are disgusting vampire behavior. that money was already taxed over and over again.

      i got into it with a commie black girl in one of my econ classes over them, the prof told me that he was either going to call security or start a revolution after my tirade. she left the classroom almost in tears. yes i verbally assaulted her in the process, with vigor and with gusto. i received a standing ovation from the rest. it was a fine moment in academia.


    138. coldwarrior
      138 | August 9, 2016 1:04 pm

      4000 days since the last hurricane in the US

      ummm, hey….algore?????


    139. 139 | August 9, 2016 1:19 pm

      Any word yet on Iron Fist?


    140. 140 | August 9, 2016 1:23 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      Agree. You have paid tax previously (in the case of farms, etc., via property tax and/or corporate income tax) but when you DIE, the government wants its cut. This is atrocious. Of course, Trump’s going to need the House to do the right thing, but the tax and spenders may be reluctant to part with revenue, even if they DO have an “R” next to their name.

      If the incident you described happened today, Miss Thing would be accusing you of microaggressions and scream for her “safe space.”

      @ coldwarrior:

      What was it they told us? At least five hurricanes a year on the magnitude of Katrina would be hitting the Gulf Coast? God, they need to stop. Seriously. Hell, Trump mentions that it’s HOT in New Hampshire and certain hefty blogger goes off on his being a climate denier….because, you know, SUMMER.


    141. RIX
      141 | August 9, 2016 1:25 pm

      Carolina Girl wrote:

      @ RIX:

      No he wouldn’t. It would be the lead story on MSLSD, CNN, and every other alphabet channel. Clinton would be talking about it in every speech.

      Exactly, the s,ear machine would be in over drive.


    142. 142 | August 9, 2016 1:35 pm

      First my comments are awaiting moderation.
      Now my comments are gone.


    143. Lily
      143 | August 9, 2016 1:36 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Any news on Iron eaglesoars?


    144. Lily
      144 | August 9, 2016 1:37 pm

      @ Macker:
      Just what I was asking… He is heavy on my mind and so is his wife.


    145. RIX
      145 | August 9, 2016 1:43 pm

      http://twitchy.com/loriz-3139/2016/08/09/no-words-what-the-orlando-terrorists-father-was-doing-during-the-hillary-clinton-rally-is-unbelievable-video/
      @Twitchy
      You will not believe what the father of the terrorist was doing while Hillary talked about the Orlando victims.


    146. 146 | August 9, 2016 1:46 pm

      @ Lily:

      Same here! It really is stressful to deal with. I very much regret not having met him in person.


    147. RIX
      147 | August 9, 2016 1:47 pm

      @ Carolina Girl:
      He did not DISS Gold Star parents. He dissed a guy that went on a national stage and attacked HIM personally. This is so de rigueur for liberals and Democrats. They send out someone with supposed “moral authority” to attack so that they can point fingers with “shame! shame</blockquote
      That's actually the fact of the matter. Trump was viciously verbally attacked by Kahn. Trump did not attack
      a Gold Star family. But even on FNC when a #nevertrumper makes that charge, it goes unchallenged.


    148. Lily
      148 | August 9, 2016 1:49 pm

      @ Bumr50:
      It is insanity to be blunt.


    149. RIX
      149 | August 9, 2016 1:50 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      I do have a question, do you need to be vetted
      to sit directly behind the candidate getting face time?

      I believe so. The Secret Service is very particular about who gets near the candidate.

      Hillary is now saying that a staffer screwed up, and that they had no. idea who it was..


    150. Lily
      150 | August 9, 2016 1:55 pm

      @ Macker:
      Via the blogmoc, I have been able to get to know him better. It has a decade almost to the day that I have been able to read all Iron’s posts. He is the reason I came to the blogmoc after the insanity of that site that shall not be mentioned.


    151. 151 | August 9, 2016 1:58 pm

      @ Lily:

      I would love to answer people but my comments are all being held in moderation now!


    152. Lily
      152 | August 9, 2016 1:59 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      They are so out of touch with the people it is unreal. So they don’t really represent the American people.


    153. Lily
      153 | August 9, 2016 2:02 pm

      @ RIX:
      Yes they have been playing us and getting paid to do it.


    154. Lily
      154 | August 9, 2016 2:09 pm

      @ RIX:
      LOL! Yeah to be that close to her someone else screwed up! Does this woman really think everyone is going to continue to believe all her lies? She has lied so much she is starting to believe her own bullshit.


    155. RIX
      155 | August 9, 2016 2:17 pm

      Lily wrote:

      @ RIX:
      LOL! Yeah to be that close to her someone else screwed up! Does this woman really think everyone is going to continue to believe all her lies? She has lied so much she is starting to believe her own bullshit.

      Hillary has a huge advantage over Trump. The Democrats are united, they would unite around Dracula.
      The Establishment Republicans are doing everything they can to sink Trump.
      But at the end of the day I do believe that Trump will win.


    156. RIX
      156 | August 9, 2016 2:22 pm

      Evan McMullin is on FNC right now. He is the GOPe hope to through the election into the House.
      He just claimed that “Trump is bought and paid for by Putin.” When asked for proof he said, “that’s what I
      hear, and I believe it”
      He is basing his campaign in Utah, which goes to our discussion yesterday, why does the Mormon Church
      in Salt Lake want to derail Trump? Or does it just look that way?


    157. eaglesoars
      157 | August 9, 2016 2:29 pm

      RIX wrote:

      why does the Mormon Church
      in Salt Lake want to derail Trump?

      maybe not the Mormon Church

      maybe Bain Capital


    158. RIX
      158 | August 9, 2016 2:33 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      why does the Mormon Church
      in Salt Lake want to derail Trump?

      maybe not the Mormon Church

      maybe Bain Capital

      That would explain Romney’s antics. I wonder if this McMullin guy has ties to Romney.


    159. Lily
      159 | August 9, 2016 2:37 pm

      @ RIX:
      What? That’s what he heard and he believes it? Good grief!


    160. 160 | August 9, 2016 2:55 pm

      Okay, I’m going to try to post a comment one more time and then I’m giving up.


    161. eaglesoars
      161 | August 9, 2016 3:05 pm

      RIX wrote:

      That would explain Romney’s antics. I wonder if this McMullin guy has ties to Romney.

      If he didn’t before he does now.

      Ok, this is my Brett Stephens rant for the day. Given that the columnists don’t also write the headlines, today’s is still apt: “Hannity’s Veneration of Ignorance”. The article has 2 parts, the first being little more than a continuation of the playground taunting the 2 of them have been engaging in, although he does try to justify “the only hope for a conservative restoration is a blow-out Hillary Clinton victory, held in check by a Republican majority in Congress”. That’s so morally absurd, I’m not even going to bother with it.

      I want part 2, the ‘snobby’ part. On Fareed Zakaria’s show, he said, referring to Trump, that Americans deserve a president who can speak grammatical English. He was told it was a ‘snobby’ comment.

      There was a time when the conservative movement was led by the likes of Bill Buckley and Irving Kristol and Robert Bartley, men of ideas who invested the Republican Party with intellectual seriousness. Today’s GOP is on the road to self-immolation, thanks in part to the veneration of ignaorance typified by Ms. Miller and Mr. Hannity.

      Buckley disagreed with Mr. Stephens a long time ago.

      I’d rather entrust the government of the United States to the first 400 people listed in the Boston telephone directory than to the faculty of Harvard University.

      I think the distribution of intellectual seriousness among those first 400 names would be somewhat random.

      I remember something else Bill Buckley was quite firm about, something it might behoove Mr. Stephens, with his ‘these people need to be taught a lesson’ haughtiness to bear in mind. Buckley had a profound belief in human dignity. So while Stephens in playing “mine’s bigger than yours” in the boys’ room with Sean, I remember Ben Carson being forgotten to be called out to the stage, even while his assigned podium stood their naked, and all the other candidates waved to him as they were called on stage.

      But not Trump. He waited with Dr Carson, standing there right beside him, the last kid being called to play for the team, until the mistake was realized and corrected. And with a wave, he ushered Dr. Carson out.

      There is grammer, Mr. Stephens, and then there is grammer.


    162. vapig
      163 | August 9, 2016 3:15 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Dr Marc Siegal and another doc are on Hannity wanting to see Hillary’s med records. He’s suggesting post-concussion syndrome, e.g., football players

      she either had a stroke or a subdural bleed with lasting injury.

      I just saw an article that said she has dementia, seizures and blackouts. The article won’t link.


    163. RIX
      164 | August 9, 2016 3:43 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      But not Trump. He waited with Dr Carson, standing there right beside him, the last kid being called to play for the team, until the mistake was realized and corrected. And with a wave, he ushered Dr. Carson out.

      I recall that.


    164. coldwarrior
      165 | August 9, 2016 3:43 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      irving kristol was a rooseveltian socialist liberal democrat!


    165. RIX
      166 | August 9, 2016 3:44 pm

      Lily wrote:

      @ RIX:
      What? That’s what he heard and he believes it? Good grief!

      Yup, just what he said. Seems like areal light weight.


    166. eaglesoars
      167 | August 9, 2016 3:44 pm

      https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/1790vapig wrote:

      I just saw an article that said she has dementia, seizures and blackouts. The article won’t link.

      try this

      docs name is Lisa R. Bardack, Chrmn Dept Medicine, Mount Kisco Medical Group

      should be easy enough to track down. Initial complaint seems to have been concussion Dec 2012


    167. RIX
      168 | August 9, 2016 3:46 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      irving kristol was a rooseveltian socialist liberal democrat!

      And his son Bill is a neo-con. Translated that means that “I will fight till the last drop of your blood.”


    168. eaglesoars
      169 | August 9, 2016 3:48 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      irving kristol was a rooseveltian socialist liberal democrat!

      That’s what I thought! Doesn’t Norman Podhoretz belong in there somewhere? Irving’s wife, Gertrude Himmelfarb most certainly does!

      I need a nap.


    169. coldwarrior
      170 | August 9, 2016 3:56 pm

      @ RIX:
      @ eaglesoars:

      the neo-cons left the dems because the dems went too far left under johnson,

      neo-cons ARE NOT CONSERVATIVES! they are big govt interventionists liberals.

      the mere idea of kristol being elevated along side buckeley is absurd and historically inaccurate. in fact, it is a lie.


    170. coldwarrior
      171 | August 9, 2016 3:58 pm

      RIX wrote:

      And his son Bill is a neo-con. Translated that means that “I will fight till the last drop of your blood.”

      cowards, useless cowards.


    171. 172 | August 9, 2016 4:14 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      My dislike for Bill Kristol knows no bounds. He may have single-handedly destroyed the Weekly (sub)Standard.


    172. RIX
      173 | August 9, 2016 4:38 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      And his son Bill is a neo-con. Translated that means that “I will fight till the last drop of your blood.”

      cowards, useless cowards.

      Apt description.


    173. RIX
      174 | August 9, 2016 4:40 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ RIX:
      @ eaglesoars:

      the neo-cons left the dems because the dems went too far left under johnson,

      neo-cons ARE NOT CONSERVATIVES! they are big govt interventionists liberals.

      the mere idea of kristol being elevated along side buckeley is absurd and historically inaccurate. in fact, it is a lie.

      Right, the Neo-cons are really renegade Democrats. As a yoot I discovered Bill Buckley. Reading him made me
      a Republican. Bill Kristol would never have made the same impact.


    174. Lily
      175 | August 9, 2016 4:50 pm

      @ vapig:
      Boy that wouldn’t surprise me… Just what we need is a demented president. Who is also under investigations constantly… But it appears way too many Republicans are OK with that.


    175. Lily
      176 | August 9, 2016 4:52 pm

      @ RIX:
      This election to quote CW “has really opened my eyes!”.


    176. Guggi
      177 | August 9, 2016 4:54 pm

      ?????

      Donald Trump Suggests Shooting Hillary Clinton, Her Supreme Court Picks, Or Both

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-clinton-shoot_us_57aa2f6de4b0ba7ed23dd652


    177. coldwarrior
      178 | August 9, 2016 5:02 pm

      Guggi wrote:

      ?????

      Donald Trump Suggests Shooting Hillary Clinton, Her Supreme Court Picks, Or Both

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-clinton-shoot_us_57aa2f6de4b0ba7ed23dd652

      😆

      he’s right. the only folks on the right who are organized, motiated, and ‘can do’ are the 2d amendment peeps. they are the only group o the right who have successfully advanced their cause and won the battles.

      of course the press will make far more out of this while ignoring the criminal hilary.


    178. coldwarrior
      179 | August 9, 2016 5:03 pm

      Lily wrote:

      @ RIX:
      This election to quote CW “has really opened my eyes!”.

      this has been so enlightening.

      so many frauds and liars have been exposed.


    179. 180 | August 9, 2016 5:17 pm

      I guess Fauxahauntas had a real meltdown over Trumps economics speech yesterday.


    180. coldwarrior
      181 | August 9, 2016 5:18 pm

      mfhorn wrote:

      I guess Fauxahauntas had a real meltdown over Trumps economics speech yesterday.

      he hit that one out of the park.

      NEW THREAD!


    181. eaglesoars
      182 | August 9, 2016 5:32 pm

      And we all know the Kennedys are better than everybody else at almost everything

      Don’t call Trump ‘crazy’ says Patrick Kennedy – it’s a slur on mental health issues


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