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  • Kusinich Peels Back the Façade

    by coldwarrior ( 166 Comments › )
    Filed under Open thread at February 15th, 2017 - 4:37 am

    Yes, Dennis Kusinich…(you may place blind squirrel anecdote here)

     

     

    please take some time and watch this, i smell neocons…and globalists. There are Trillions of dollars at stake.

    Who would gain from Russia and America not cooperating against islam but fighting each other. Why is it a priority for these folks to prevent closer Russian-American ties? Who would gain from war and be hurt by a prosperous peace?

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    166 Responses to “Kusinich Peels Back the Façade”
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    1. coldwarrior
      2 | February 15, 2017 6:35 am

      required reading


    2. coldwarrior
      3 | February 15, 2017 6:43 am

      Make no mistake: we have just witnessed an operation by members of the CIA to take out a high official of our own government. An agency widely believed to have brought down democratically elected governments overseas is now practicing the same dark arts in domestic American politics. Almost certainly, its new head, Mike Pompeo, was not consulted.

      Senator Chuck Schumer, of all people, laid out on January 2 what was going to happen to the Trump administration if it dared take on the deep state – the permanent bureaucracy that has contempt for the will of the voters and feels entitled to run the government for its own benefit:

      New Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Tuesday that President-elect Donald Trump is “being really dumb” by taking on the intelligence community and its assessments on Russia’s cyber activities.

      “Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” Schumer told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow.

      “So even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he’s being really dumb to do this.”


    3. coldwarrior
      4 | February 15, 2017 7:38 am

      If there’s anyone who embodies the idea of globalism, it’s Klaus Schwab, founder of the Switzerland-based World Economic Forum, who opened the conference with a grim assessment of the populist wave led by Trump. “People in some parts of the world are angry.

      Facts do not anymore count. Fake news may become more important than reality,

      ” he said.

      this of course makes the operative definition of ‘fake news’ any news that is not globalists approved…in short, any info that is not globalists propaganda is ‘fake’.

      i was waiting for one of these globalists-communists to finally come out and use the term. and make no mistake, these people are not capitalists. they see themselves as the ‘elite’ vanguard in charge of the poor masses world wide. a strong middle class is i the way of their revolution so it must be torn down.


    4. rain of lead
      5 | February 15, 2017 7:57 am

      it’s a wild ride and gonna get worse

      morning yo


    5. RIX
      6 | February 15, 2017 9:39 am

      http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/best-senate-race-ever-kid-rock-possible-contender-michigan-senate-seat/
      @Gateway Pundit
      Good morning. Kid Rock for the Senate? What the hell, why not? Frankenstein was a bad comedian.


    6. 7 | February 15, 2017 9:43 am

      From Downthread: “Обама fedayeen” courtesy of lobo91. Thank you for that phrase!
      أوباما الفدائيين


    7. 8 | February 15, 2017 9:53 am

      @ coldwarrior:

      I tweeted out yesterday that this whole affair smells fishy-er than the San Francisco Waterfront.

      I say, let’s have that investigation. And let’s haul every one of those Obama sycophants who did the leaking and get the information out of them. Because there has been, as far as I know, there is NO evidence that Flynn discussed sanctions.


    8. 9 | February 15, 2017 10:09 am

      BTW, there is every reason to believe that the undermining of this administration, since the days immediately following the election, is in part being orchestrated by Barack Obama through his sycophant staffers and his “community organized” group OFA, and being funded by George Soros.

      It would be interesting to see if Obama’s actions can be seen as an attempt to overthrow a duly elected government. Speculation, of course, and of also of course, the media would never publish any facts showing same, but there’s a real whiff of this going on. Wonder if the media was given marching orders by Obama through various conduits to work hard in undermining this administration. Not that they’d need any urging.

      I love to throw out a good conspiracy idea.


    9. Deplorable Idapig
      10 | February 15, 2017 10:39 am

      RIX wrote:

      http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/best-senate-race-ever-kid-rock-possible-contender-michigan-senate-seat/
      @Gateway Pundit
      Good morning. Kid Rock for the Senate? What the hell, why not? Frankenstein was a bad comedian.

      I prefer Kid Rock over Stuart Smalley (Al Franken). The Kid has at least been consistently FOR our troops and country.


    10. Daffy Duck
      11 | February 15, 2017 10:46 am

      @ RIX:

      I’d vote for Kid Rock before I even read your article. He’d certainly be better than the libs we have now, or most any of the hacks our ‘Republican Party’ sends to the table here.


    11. lobo91
      12 | February 15, 2017 10:56 am

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      I believe that’s exactly what’s going on. Hence my use of the term Obama fedayeen to describe them.

      We’re witnessing an actual coup attempt.


    12. 13 | February 15, 2017 10:58 am

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      I prefer Kid Rock over Stuart Smalley (Al Franken).

      Indeed!


    13. 14 | February 15, 2017 11:03 am

      lobo91 wrote:

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      I believe that’s exactly what’s going on. Hence my use of the term Obama fedayeen to describe them.

      We’re witnessing an actual coup attempt.

      Sorry, the coup already took place, what we are now witnessing in an attempt to keep that coup in place.


    14. Deplorable Idapig
      15 | February 15, 2017 11:11 am

      @ doriangrey:
      Happy Birthday, Dorian!


    15. Daffy Duck
      16 | February 15, 2017 11:11 am

      @ doriangrey:

      Hey dorian, here’s wishing you a Happy Birthday!

      (I was reading the down thread, and signed in for this purpose, then read Rix’s post, and forgot why I had signed in, in the first place. Old age…meh).


    16. 17 | February 15, 2017 11:20 am

      Sigh, I just spent the last two days busting my ass doing custom high performance porting and polishing jobs on the heads to two dragster engines in exchange for work done on my truck.

      I don’t know yet if my truck is fixed, but somebody just got amazing port and polish work.


    17. 18 | February 15, 2017 11:22 am

      Happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me, I feel like a monkey who fell from a tree.


    18. SciFiGuy
      20 | February 15, 2017 11:48 am

      doriangrey wrote:

      Happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me, I feel like a monkey who fell from a tree.

      At least you know gravity still works at your age!! LOL Happy Birthday Dorian!


    19. 21 | February 15, 2017 12:18 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      Hilarious: Sally Kohn Has Plan To Install Hillary Clinton As President

      https://twitter.com/OscarWildeGrey/status/831915385163173888


    20. 22 | February 15, 2017 12:32 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      lobo91 wrote:

      Hilarious: Sally Kohn Has Plan To Install Hillary Clinton As President

      https://twitter.com/OscarWildeGrey/status/831915385163173888

      https://twitter.com/OscarWildeGrey/status/831918823758376961


    21. RIX
      23 | February 15, 2017 12:58 pm

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/best-senate-race-ever-kid-rock-possible-contender-michigan-senate-seat/
      @Gateway Pundit
      Good morning. Kid Rock for the Senate? What the hell, why not? Frankenstein was a bad comedian.

      I prefer Kid Rock over Stuart Smalley (Al Franken). The Kid has at least been consistently FOR our troops and country.

      Kid Rock has talent. The other guy not do much,


    22. RIX
      24 | February 15, 2017 12:59 pm

      Daffy Duck wrote:

      @ RIX:

      I’d vote for Kid Rock before I even read your article. He’d certainly be better than the libs we have now, or most any of the hacks our ‘Republican Party’ sends to the table here.

      Count me in too.


    23. 25 | February 15, 2017 1:01 pm

      SciFiGuy wrote:

      doriangrey wrote:

      Happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me, I feel like a monkey who fell from a tree.

      At least you know gravity still works at your age!! LOL Happy Birthday Dorian!

      Everything still works. Perhaps not as well as in my 20’s, but it all still works… And I still have all of my own hair.


    24. RIX
      26 | February 15, 2017 1:06 pm

      http://www.weaselzippers.us/325116-irs-wouldnt-enforce-obamacare-individual-mandate-and-tax-penalty-report/
      @ WZ
      The IRS is no longer enforcing the Msndate,. Without thst Obama Care is already dead.


    25. rain of lead
      27 | February 15, 2017 1:08 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      meh, I still have all of my own hair also

      if by all you mean 80% less


    26. RIX
      28 | February 15, 2017 1:10 pm

      http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/trump-approval-goes-media-mush-pile-general-flynn/
      @ Gateway Pundit
      The MSM is so destroying Trump that his approval is up!


    27. RIX
      29 | February 15, 2017 1:14 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      Hilarious: Sally Kohn Has Plan To Install Hillary Clinton As President

      I like my lesbians smarter.


    28. 30 | February 15, 2017 1:56 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      Happy Birthday my “Southern” friend.

      @ RIX:

      Apparently brain dead Sally has no idea (1) how the Constitution works and (2) exactly how she thinks a REPUBLICAN Congress will commence impeachment proceedings.


    29. eaglesoars
      31 | February 15, 2017 2:15 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! Good thing I checked in, gotta run again.

      *smooch*


    30. 32 | February 15, 2017 2:15 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      @ doriangrey:

      Happy Birthday my “Southern” friend.

      @ RIX:

      Apparently brain dead Sally has no idea (1) how the Constitution works and (2) exactly how she thinks a REPUBLICAN Congress will commence impeachment proceedings.

      She keeps shoting off her mouth she just might end up getting a first hand up close education on how the construction works


    31. eaglesoars
      33 | February 15, 2017 2:17 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      It would be interesting to see if Obama’s actions can be seen as an attempt to overthrow a duly elected government

      wouldn’t it be loverly to get the guy on treason/sedition and throw his ass into Florence? With his jihadi buddies?


    32. troutski
      34 | February 15, 2017 2:58 pm

      I watched the video. Someone must have an inking who the traitors are in the intelligence community. Trumps needs the generals to interrupt them until they sing.

      I like Bolton though he can be hawkish. I wonder if Trump could lead him into improved relations with Russia? Bolton just needs Trump to break down a few of the globalist walls. He can carry it from there.


    33. 35 | February 15, 2017 3:22 pm

      @ troutski:

      How long, do you suppose, before we start hearing about deleted emails during the relevant time period after the election? You know, when there would have been instruction from the Executive what to do.


    34. 37 | February 15, 2017 3:42 pm

      Taking stupid ass test for new job.


    35. coldwarrior
      38 | February 15, 2017 3:50 pm

      The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee said Tuesday that the most significant question posed by the resignation of national security adviser Michael Flynn is why intelligence officials eavesdropped on his calls with the Russian ambassador and later leaked information on those calls to the press.

      “I expect for the FBI to tell me what is going on, and they better have a good answer,” said Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, which is conducting a review of Russian activities to influence the election. “The big problem I see here is that you have an American citizen who had his phone calls recorded.”

      snowden warned us all over and over again.


    36. Aussie Infidel
      39 | February 15, 2017 5:19 pm

      The apparent story is about General Mike Flynn deceiving the Vice President Mike Pence with ‘sins of omission’ and paying the price for his deception.

      Now the REAL STORY is about a group of Pentagon and CIA/FBI senior staffers attempting to undermine the President of the United States. Obviously high level officials within the US Security apparatus have an agenda of their own and are actively perusing it and desperately need ‘outing’ prosecuted, tried and if found guilty sentenced to the full penalty of the law, thrown into a very deep dark hole and forgotten. The illegal spying on Flynn at the time a private citizen of the USA, before he was appointed to oversee the Security apparatuses of the State, the leaking of that illegally obtained information to media who were knowingly attempting to undermine the Trump Administration is not the full story.

      A couple of weeks ago the Trump administration settled with Putin’s Russia on a way to settle the Syrian Civil War that would allow the US to exit the conflict, even though the current Russian presence would remain with an enclave on the Syrian coast. Obviously high level renegade officers within the CIA and Pentagon, who were in deep dungeon when it came to terms with Russia, acted independently of the current US political Administration and ordered up a US Air Force airstrike that ‘accidentally’ killed almost 100 Syrian troops and dashed the agreement. That is treason pure and simple and the general(s) who ordered the strike should be tried for treason and if found guilty executed. The Cold Warriors of yore who remain within the security services and military should be purged and replaced by staffers who do not have hidden agendas and who operate on those agendas to undermine a democratically elected government. Not only should treasonous ‘stay behind’ operatives be identified and sacked by Trump, they should also be tried and convicted if found guilty of the most serious charges of undermining the state.

      These swamp dwellers imagine that they are running a parallel state where their covert agendas trump those of the lawful administration. A group who have overseen trillions of dollars spent on 30 years of almost continuous warfare that has ground down the US defence forces, killing thousands and wounding tens of thousands. It has also undermined the US economy that is at the wrong end of a 20 trillion deficit and affected the lives of millions of US citizens. It has also enriched huge corporations and the shareholders of those corporations. For years we have seen bloated defence costs ballooning out with needless programs, make work schemes for corporations and the classic ‘gold plated toilet seat’ type cost over runs. The F-35 being the current boondoggle perpetrated by Lockheed Martin.

      What is going on within the US is verging on civil war by undercover operatives within the US bureaucracy plotting against the state. That is treason pure and simple as individuals and groups within the bureaucracy apparently have rejected the will of the US electoral system and are actively engaged in bringing down the State from within. When CIA, FBI, Secret Service and Pentagon high officials transition seamlessly from the ‘buyers to the sellers side of the table’, on their retirement, you know that there is something rotten in the Beltway swamp. The rejection of civil governance by these covert parallel government types, is manifest and they need to be cleaned out prosecuted and if found guilty subject to the full weight of the law.

      THAT IS THE REAL STORY HERE.


    37. coldwarrior
      40 | February 15, 2017 5:22 pm

      Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova denied there had been any inappropriate contact between Trump representatives and Russian state agencies during the campaign.

      She told a daily news briefing the latest allegations looked like part of a domestic U.S. political tussle that Russian officials have suggested is designed to damage the chances for better U.S.-Russia ties.

      “We’re not surprised by anything anymore. This information once again proves that a very deep political game is playing out within the United States,” said Zakharova.

      The prospect of a swift rapprochement between Russia and the United has lessened since Trump’s inauguration due to scandals including the resignation on Monday of national security adviser Michael Flynn, who was seen in Moscow as a leading advocate of softer U.S. policy towards Russia.

      who gets hurt by us/russian rapprochement?


    38. coldwarrior
      41 | February 15, 2017 5:24 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      it is treason.


    39. Aussie Infidel
      42 | February 15, 2017 5:25 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      Maybe Malcolm Turnbull would like to give Trump a call:

      http://www.weaselzippers.us/324922-australians-fleeing-areas-of-heavy-islamic-settlement-to-protect-our-daughters-says-senator/

      You don’t know the half of it mate. Australia if in the opening stages of its own revolt of the ‘paroles against the political mating that has undermined the nation for the past 50 + years.
      Watch out for Senator Cori Bernardi over the next few years as the cockroaches on both sides of the political divide attempt to destroy him and keep the cozy status quo bumbling along.

      Already the Conservatives own 235 of the State of Queensland and will be the kingmakers for any future administration. Watch the Federal government too be dragged kicking and screaming back to the Right.

      🙂


    40. Aussie Infidel
      43 | February 15, 2017 5:28 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      who gets hurt by us/russian rapprochement?

      The bureaucratic ‘would be parallel government’ Beltway swamp dwellerThese grubs and their corporate boosters will not go down without a fight either as trillions of future largess is up for grabs.


    41. coldwarrior
      44 | February 15, 2017 5:28 pm

      Surprise: At the End, Obama Administration Gave NSA Broad New Powers

      the globalists are doing their best to take down trump and negate this election.


    42. Deplorable Idapig
      45 | February 15, 2017 5:29 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      Yeah – we know. The problem is getting rid of tens of thousands of people without crippling ourselves.

      It took obama close to 6 years to start digging into the bureaucracy. That’s when me and my boss were sent packing. And we were by no means the only ones. I started looking up people I knew and all of them were gone!


    43. coldwarrior
      46 | February 15, 2017 5:29 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      who gets hurt by us/russian rapprochement?

      The bureaucratic ‘would be parallel government’ Beltway swamp dwellerThese grubs and their corporate boosters will not go down without a fight either as trillions of future largess is up for grabs.

      trillions are at stake.


    44. coldwarrior
      47 | February 15, 2017 5:30 pm

      @ Deplorable Idapig:

      some folks are going to have to do jail time. some folks are gonna get the unemployment line.

      too effing bad, they work for us, the voters.


    45. eaglesoars
      48 | February 15, 2017 5:50 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      some folks are going to have to do jail time. some folks are gonna get the unemployment line.

      Wow, you’re an optimist. Somebody may get charged with perjury/obstruction for testimony ABOUT this, but ain’t nobody going to jail FOR this.

      The more I think about this, the more confused I get. I just don’t understand why anybody thought this telephone conversation was such a big deal. Flynn did nothing wrong OR illegal, and Snowden notwithstanding, if you’re talking to a Russian official, your call is tapped – on both ends and everybody does or should know it. Why did whoever leaked this think it would be so damaging? I’m missing something again.


    46. coldwarrior
      49 | February 15, 2017 5:52 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      a leak like this shatters any trust any foreign official has when speaking with an american


    47. coldwarrior
      50 | February 15, 2017 5:54 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Wow, you’re an optimist.

      an that is the problem, there should be 30% unemployment in DC right now.

      there should be no moving vans available because of the massive amount of peeps leaving the area. i am pretty much unable to have any sympathy for anyone who works for govt in DC.


    48. coldwarrior
      51 | February 15, 2017 5:56 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      a leak like this shatters any trust any foreign official has when speaking with an american

      and this leaks and taps and the others are felonies.


    49. Aussie Infidel
      52 | February 15, 2017 5:59 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      Never going to happen. These bastards would rather a Sampson moment that brings down the whole country rather than letting go of their largess for life corruption.

      What happens in 2017 will determine whether your nation survives into the next century folks.

      Give it your best shot as you will get only one chance at this


    50. coldwarrior
      53 | February 15, 2017 6:02 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Never going to happen.

      silent Cal pulled it off in the early 1900’s…he faced the same crap


    51. eaglesoars
      54 | February 15, 2017 6:05 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      a leak like this shatters any trust any foreign official has when speaking with an american

      It’s hardly news. Remember when we all – including the Germans – found out we’d be tapping all Merkel’s phones? And we said Oh, sorry, ok, we won’t do that anymore.

      And absolutely nobody believe THAT. And then everybody said, Well, everybody listens to everybody so….

      It’s like leaking the day of the week.


    52. coldwarrior
      55 | February 15, 2017 6:13 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      its illegal to tap citizens phones without a court order.

      the govt is completely out of control. we are losing freedoms daily


    53. coldwarrior
      56 | February 15, 2017 6:18 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      i want to see the same total destruction in DC that was let lose here when the steel mills all closed, or in the south when the clothing industry collapsed, tens of thousands out of work in one fell swoop.

      i also want to see the same level of support that the mill guys got, bankrupt pensions, paltry re-training, 26 weeks of unemployment. i want to see economic destruction in the counties surrounding DC. these are now the most wealthy countries in america now; that is just completely wrong on so many levels as this wealth is the blood-meal of the tics who work in govt. these tics dont produce anything, they are a millstone around the neck of america. we cannot grow with a govt this big.

      the wealth in these counties has been stolen from the rest of the nation.

      it has to be cut down.


    54. eaglesoars
      57 | February 15, 2017 6:20 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      gee thanks. can hubby and I and the heathen beagles come live with you?


    55. coldwarrior
      58 | February 15, 2017 6:23 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:

      gee thanks. can hubby and I and the heathen beagles come live with you?

      yep.

      will this destruction happen, no. so you are safe. nor will america ever again reach its full potential as long as the govt tics drain wealth from the real economy.

      the fact that the 4 wealthiest counties are surrounding DC makes me sick to my stomach.


    56. RIX
      59 | February 15, 2017 6:34 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      Hi Aussie, you have nailed the situation. The Obama embeds, hell even many before him are sabotaging
      a democratically elected government . They are all over the bureaucracy including the intelligences services.
      They are akin to Franco’s Fifth Cioumn. The media supports all of the nefarious activities.
      I recall a poll some years ago where the vast majority of incoming J School students said that their purpose was to
      change the world. Not a thing about “who, what , why , where and when. Agenda driven journalism and activist
      courts. I say support Trump, he is now Horatio at the bridge. Even if he was not your guy from the jump , it’s time.


    57. RIX
      60 | February 15, 2017 6:40 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      If you go to DC and it’s the end of the work day, you see the bureaucrats all wearing the same style suits
      pouring out of the buildings. They seem so smug and above the populace. It is a swamp.


    58. coldwarrior
      61 | February 15, 2017 6:49 pm

      RIX wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      If you go to DC and it’s the end of the work day, you see the bureaucrats all wearing the same style suits
      pouring out of the buildings. They seem so smug and above the populace. It is a swamp.

      peeps like eagle’s hubby is actually working AGAINST regulations, so he is actually worth his weight in gold to us in that swamp.


    59. coldwarrior
      62 | February 15, 2017 6:52 pm

      @ RIX:

      every one of those bureaucrats and every one of their regulations has a direct cost to the rest of america. these costs are paid by the voters. i am appalled when there is an assumption that govt workers cant be laid off.

      why not?


    60. coldwarrior
      63 | February 15, 2017 6:54 pm


    61. eaglesoars
      64 | February 15, 2017 6:59 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      eagle’s hubby is actually working AGAINST regulations,

      yep. Every day he sees what the EPA has done to this country and how its entire mission is to kill the productivity of Americans. He was born and raised as a dairy farmer and there are few professions that require that kind of unending work but it’s PRIDE. And the gov’t has wanted nothing but to strip us of that.


    62. Aussie Infidel
      65 | February 15, 2017 7:00 pm

      Just do it folks.

      Enough with the talk.

      Begin by draining the DC swamp and everything else will be a ‘doodle’ by comparison.

      The Problems of the USA all begin in the corruption of the Body Politic called ‘The Establishment’.

      Destroy that and everything gets easier as a consequence.

      The chances of Trump succeeding/ I’d give him a 20% chance but it’s the only chance the USA has in getting right with itself.

      The chance is NOW and will not come again until the whole rotten edifice implodes, much as the Roman Empire did 1600 years ago


    63. Aussie Infidel
      66 | February 15, 2017 7:02 pm

      Good luck

      … and good hunting

      🙂


    64. RIX
      67 | February 15, 2017 7:03 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      peeps like eagle’s hubby is actually working AGAINST regulations, so he is actually worth his weight in gold to us in that swamp.

      He is doing Gods work.


    65. RIX
      68 | February 15, 2017 7:04 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ RIX:

      every one of those bureaucrats and every one of their regulations has a direct cost to the rest of america. these costs are paid by the voters. i am appalled when there is an assumption that govt workers cant be laid off.

      why not?

      Civil Service.


    66. coldwarrior
      69 | February 15, 2017 7:04 pm

      We will not pay: the Americans withholding their taxes to fight Trump

      go ahead, i dare ya. i pay mine, 8 years of the ghetto fabulous grifter in chief and i paid every dine without protest.

      i thought paying taxes was a patriotic duty? yinz said that, rermeber?


    67. coldwarrior
      70 | February 15, 2017 7:06 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Good luck

      … and good hunting

      its gonna be a great ride!


    68. coldwarrior
      71 | February 15, 2017 7:06 pm

      RIX wrote:

      Civil Service.

      not a good enough reason.


    69. 73 | February 15, 2017 7:09 pm

      It would appear that other than repeal of ACA, Obama seems to be very very worried about the secret details of the Iran deal, which he and his cohorts hid from the American public. Flynn was not a supporter of the Iran deal and some reports say he was ready to release the details, which is part of the reason he needed to be destroyed. Which makes no sense. Trump doesn’t need Flynn to release those details – I imagine he has the power to do so himself. But knowing Flynn was poised for National Security, the plan was put in place to destroy him.

      And apparently the Mullahs over in Iran are worried about it as well. They are sending an ill-advised “warning” to the U.S. that we “better not” release those details.


    70. 74 | February 15, 2017 7:09 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      The sooner we can find a way to divorce this Nazi from his fortune, the safer this country and the World will be.


    71. coldwarrior
      75 | February 15, 2017 7:11 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      And apparently the Mullahs over in Iran are worried about it as well. They are sending an ill-advised “warning” to the U.S. that we “better not” release those details.

      or what?

      do they really want to go up against the USN in the gulf?


    72. coldwarrior
      76 | February 15, 2017 7:13 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Soros Fund Management bought 353,686 shares in Facebook and bulked up its stake in Alphabet (GOOGL) by nearly 60% to 20,200 shares, according to a regulatory filing out late Tuesday. Soros also increased his T-Mobile (TMUS) stake to 685,700 shares.

      hmmm…organs of propaganda


    73. Aussie Infidel
      77 | February 15, 2017 7:15 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      The sooner we can find a way to divorce this Nazi from his fortune, the safer this country and the World will be.

      The sooner we can find a way to divorce this Nazi from his fortune and breathing his share of O2,, the safer this country and the World will be.


    74. RIX
      78 | February 15, 2017 7:17 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      Civil Service.

      not a good enough reason.

      I agree with you. That protection should never have been extended.


    75. coldwarrior
      79 | February 15, 2017 7:25 pm

      drain the swamp

      It’s already been eight years since the Great Recession, yet the U.S. economy has been just inching along, with its productivity flagging and millions being locked out of the labor market.

      One critical underlying factor for this lack of economic dynamism has been the startling decline of America’s economic freedom, an unfortunate legacy of Barack Obama’s eight-year presidency.

      The Heritage Foundation’s 2017 Index of Economic Freedom—an annual global study that compares countries’ entrepreneurial environments—highlights the urgent need for the U.S. to change course. For the ninth time since 2008, America has lost ground.

      According to the 2017 index, the U.S. ranks 17th out of 180 rated economies, lagging behind other comparable advanced economies such as Switzerland (fourth), Australia (fifth), Canada (seventh), and the United Kingdom (12th).


    76. Deplorable Bumr50
      80 | February 15, 2017 7:29 pm

      FBI Randomly Releases Trump Real Estate Investigation Records From The 1970s

      The FBI on Wednesday released nearly 400 pages of records from an investigation it conducted on Donald Trump’s family real estate company in the early 1970s.

      The documents consist of interview notes, handwritten statements and FBI reports compiled during the bureau’s investigation, which occurred between 1972 and 1974.

      The FBI’s investigation centered on allegations that the Trump Management Company, which was owned by Trump’s father, Fred, discriminated against applicants for apartment rentals based on their race.

      If you’re wondering why Trump isn’t firing people like crazy, I think it’s because this is all part of a detailed and planned effort, and that plan assumes that Trump would do just that.

      This is a dare.


    77. RIX
      81 | February 15, 2017 7:31 pm

      http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/flashback-democrats-cheered-ted-kennedy-asked-russia-intervene-1984-election-beat-reagan/
      @ Gateway Pundit
      The Democrats have selective outrage. Teddy Kennedy tried to cut a political quid pro quo with the Soviet Union.


    78. lobo91
      82 | February 15, 2017 7:36 pm

      RIX wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      Civil Service.

      not a good enough reason.

      I agree with you. That protection should never have been extended.

      Civil service employees can be laid off, but it’s done by seniority, just like a private sector unionized company. The first ones laid off will be the most recent hires.

      So you won’t get the entrenched ones who have been there for decades.


    79. eaglesoars
      83 | February 15, 2017 7:44 pm

      …we’ve done a million fucking times before. We followed the formula we’ve followed in Europe and the U.S. for years, i.e., show up, fuck up some fascist faces, break some random shit, watch right wing tears.
      But this time was different and it’s your fucking fault. We didn’t get slaps on the wrist, we didn’t get lost in the crowd. We got fucking rounded up and arrested.

      Now some of us, like yours truly, got bailed out by our backers, but we have court dates and TEN FUCKING YEARS I jail. FOR HUNDREDS OF US. THIS IS FUCKING INSANE.

      It’s not fair. It’s not fucking fair. We’re not fascists like you fucks. We’re the good guys.

      You have no idea how much this is hurting us.

      And that, Ladies and Gents, is the cri de coeur of one Paul “Luke” Kuhn, who was a featured player in Project Veritas’ expose of the J20 disruption group.

      He’s been arrested


    80. eaglesoars
      84 | February 15, 2017 7:48 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      The sooner we can find a way to divorce this Nazi from his fortune and breathing his share of O2,,

      The problem is his spawn. They also have billions, at least 2 (Alex and James I think) are right behind daddy. The only one who apparently isn’t the least bit interested is the daughter, Andrea, who was off doing something meaningful in Tibet, the last time I checked.


    81. RIX
      85 | February 15, 2017 8:05 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      Civil Service.

      not a good enough reason.

      I agree with you. That protection should never have been extended.

      Civil service employees can be laid off, but it’s done by seniority, just like a private sector unionized company. The first ones laid off will be the most recent hires.

      So you won’t get the entrenched ones who have been there for decades.

      That’s it, I have seen that.


    82. Deplorable Idapig
      86 | February 15, 2017 8:07 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      RIX wrote:
      @ coldwarrior:
      If you go to DC and it’s the end of the work day, you see the bureaucrats all wearing the same style suits
      pouring out of the buildings. They seem so smug and above the populace. It is a swamp.
      peeps like eagle’s hubby is actually working AGAINST regulations, so he is actually worth his weight in gold to us in that swamp.

      There’s a lot of good people working there. Some agencies just need to go! Agencies like the EPA, Dept of Education, Dept of Energy. Country ran better when the DoD (dept of defense) was actually the Dept of War. In the Pentagon you could keep every “wedge” and get rid of Policy. Of the five wedges you have Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines. That 5th wedge is Policy. What policy decides the other “wedges” move heaven and earth to accomplish. Policy is your problem.

      Now what everybody knows – and the thing most impossible to fix it seems – is the broken state dept. That place corrupts everything and everybody that touches it. It must be on some satanic burial grounds, because the whole thing is just ooozing corruption.

      But just grab a government listing. There are so many agencies it would take years to go through the book, never mind the agencies themselves!

      But look at it this way. When obama closed down the government, NOBODY noticed!


    83. eaglesoars
      87 | February 15, 2017 8:13 pm

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      But just grab a government listing. There are so many agencies it would take years to go through the book

      The Yellow Book. Did you ever see the book of registered lobbyists? 3 times as thick.


    84. Deplorable Idapig
      88 | February 15, 2017 8:16 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ RIX:
      every one of those bureaucrats and every one of their regulations has a direct cost to the rest of america. these costs are paid by the voters. i am appalled when there is an assumption that govt workers cant be laid off.
      why not?

      That right there is why I wish congress was only part time again. They are all lawyers and that’s what they do – pass laws. Laws ALWAYS cost us money! What they should be working on is getting RID of all the laws and regulations that have hamstrung this country, our people and economy!


    85. troutski
      89 | February 15, 2017 8:21 pm

      I haven’t read anything yet that makes me concerned about Flynn. It’s just a management issue. People make mistakes. You weigh if they can be productive through learning afterwards.

      It’s a massive lefty hysteric flu were they yell “Facts, facts, facts” but all that is in their heads is a swill of garbage. And no one calls them out on it.


    86. troutski
      90 | February 15, 2017 8:22 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Shut down the art offices and all the swj offices in all government departments. Probably a 10 percent savings across the board.


    87. troutski
      91 | February 15, 2017 8:24 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      He should be happy disrupting a prison. He is not a good guy. He one of the really bad ones. The problem though is eventually he probably pleas down to a slap on the wrist as no one has the stomach to jail him.


    88. Deplorable Idapig
      92 | February 15, 2017 8:27 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Good! Tired of the professional protestors getting away with murder!

      I also have to say that I haven’t cared overly much because they are breaking up their own liberal enclaves. Like I care that Berkeley or places like it are being trashed and burned!


    89. eaglesoars
      93 | February 15, 2017 8:28 pm

      troutski wrote:

      The problem though is eventually he probably pleas down to a slap on the wrist as no one has the stomach to jail him.

      maybe. in either case, he now has a criminal record. And he has to shell out for lawyers. That’s $$$ (altho I’d like to know who is ‘backers’ are that bailed him out).


    90. Deplorable Bumr50
      94 | February 15, 2017 8:28 pm

      troutski wrote:

      He should be happy disrupting a prison.

      LOTS of “fascism” there!!!


    91. Deplorable Idapig
      95 | February 15, 2017 8:32 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:
      But just grab a government listing. There are so many agencies it would take years to go through the book
      The Yellow Book. Did you ever see the book of registered lobbyists? 3 times as thick.

      They could get rid of those (sorry I know your hubby is one) with a single law. I know the lobbyists started as that part of the 1st that stated people have the right to petition the government. It got messed up big time over the years! Now the lobbyists are the ones who bribe the congresscritters – making them millionaires AND beholden! That’s got to stop. Same with life-time politicians. It should never have been allowed to become a CAREER!


    92. troutski
      96 | February 15, 2017 8:33 pm

      How do you get a big federal department to tow the line? You appoint the head guy/gal. He/she makes everyone reapply for their management positions competitively. He/She hires the best candidate. You terminate art units, social justice units. Anyone that gets downgraded can stay on if they fill a low level job requiring no significant security. Pick up cigarette butts, clean graffiti, collect tolls. The low level workers will work for whoever. It’s the mid level managers that are abusing the system.


    93. Deplorable Bumr50
      97 | February 15, 2017 8:34 pm

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      It should never have been allowed to become a CAREER!

      The Democrats that actually spoke with me during the election season found it appalling that Trump wasn’t a “professional politician.”

      People have been conditioned to think that it’s a career path.


    94. eaglesoars
      98 | February 15, 2017 8:38 pm

      troutski wrote:

      He/she makes everyone reapply for their management positions competitively.

      Every new agency/dept sec that comes in has to hit the ground running. They can’t afford to get rid of the institutional knowledge willy/nilly and they wouldn’t know how to evaluate who is most qualified for the mgmt positions.

      Believe it or not, there is a lot of arcane but very useful knowledge hanging out at some of these places. There are people at USDA building an entire ‘library’ of seeds in the event of disaster, etc.


    95. Deplorable Idapig
      99 | February 15, 2017 8:39 pm

      troutski wrote:

      I haven’t read anything yet that makes me concerned about Flynn. It’s just a management issue. People make mistakes. You weigh if they can be productive through learning afterwards.
      It’s a massive lefty hysteric flu were they yell “Facts, facts, facts” but all that is in their heads is a swill of garbage. And no one calls them out on it.

      Hillary Clinton sold our uranium rights in the Pacific Northwest TO the Russians. And she kept her job!

      Barack Obama was overheard on a live mike telling the Russian President that he’d have more flexibility on security concerns after he was re-elected. He was re-elected.


    96. Deplorable Idapig
      100 | February 15, 2017 8:43 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Through different studies they (no, I don’t know who “they” are) have determined that the whole could survive losing every agency EXCEPT Agriculture.

      Which might be true but it needs a revamp as well!


    97. eaglesoars
      101 | February 15, 2017 8:45 pm

      heh

      Trump declines ESPN invite to fill out NCAA bracket on-air

      White House spokeswoman Hope Hicks tells The Washington Post in an email, “We look forward to working with ESPN on another opportunity in the near future.”

      Don’t call us, we’ll call you


    98. Deplorable Bumr50
      102 | February 15, 2017 9:04 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      The NSA will leak his bracket to them anyway.


    99. Deplorable Bumr50
      103 | February 15, 2017 9:07 pm

      Former NSA Analyst Claims Intel Community Will Go ‘Nuclear’ Against Trump

      ohn Schindler, a former National Security Agency analyst and current columnist for the New York Observer, said Wednesday that the intelligence community will go “nuclear” against President Donald Trump.

      The national security columnist also quoted a senior intelligence official telling him that Trump “will die in jail.” “Now we go nuclear. [Intelligence community] war going to new levels. Just got an [email from] from senior [intelligence community] friend, it began: ‘He will die in jail,’” Schindler tweeted.

      Name, pussy, or it didn’t happen.


    100. 104 | February 15, 2017 9:08 pm

      Just got home. Passed my stupid test. Bought myself a birthday present… tires for my truck… $500.00 Damn it, I used to be such a cheap date.


    101. Deplorable Bumr50
      105 | February 15, 2017 9:12 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      Was it a numbers and abilities test, or one of those stupid personality things where “there is no wrong answer, but we may not hire you based on them”?

      I had to take the Wonderlic for my current job. I finished, which is good on that, but they won’t give me my score.


    102. 106 | February 15, 2017 9:14 pm

      So, I am walking up to my house, my last remaining brother is waiting for me. as we are talking he gets an emergency text. Toro’s offices are on fire. The place I am suppose to start work Monday.

      A few minutes later he gets another call, Toro isn’t on fire, an air conditioner motor burned up and filled the offices with smoke. Thought I was going to lose my new job before I even got started.


    103. Deplorable Bumr50
      107 | February 15, 2017 9:15 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      So THAT’S where the gum went that you carelessly tossed behind you while taking your stupid test…


    104. 108 | February 15, 2017 9:15 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ doriangrey:

      Was it a numbers and abilities test, or one of those stupid personality things where “there is no wrong answer, but we may not hire you based on them”?

      I had to take the Wonderlic for my current job. I finished, which is good on that, but they won’t give me my score.

      Numbers and abilities. Really stupid since I have already worked there before and nothing they tested me on has anything to do with what I will be doing.


    105. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      109 | February 15, 2017 9:20 pm

      So, I guess Susan Collins is planning on voting against every Trump appointment now. Is there any way we can do a Dunking Chair on her? I suspect she is a witch. And of course there is only one way to prove it.

      I would much rather have a democrat sitting in her seat being a dem scumbag than a treasonous harpy that pretends to be one thing but votes with the dems every damn time.


    106. eaglesoars
      110 | February 15, 2017 9:23 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      Name, pussy, or it didn’t happen.

      John Schindler is a piece of shit nevertrumper who was fired from the Navy War College for sexting women not his wife. His best bud is Rick Wilson who tweeted Ann Coulter “Does Trump pay you double for anal”, then deleted it claiming stress due to the death threats he said his children were getting from Trump supporters. Schindler makes Bill Kristol look like a paragon of honorable opposition. I wouldn’t scrape him off the bottom of my shoes, I’d burn the shoes.


    107. eaglesoars
      111 | February 15, 2017 9:25 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      the Wonderlic

      what is that please?


    108. AZfederalist
      112 | February 15, 2017 9:26 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      this of course makes the operative definition of ‘fake news’ any news that is not globalists approved…in short, any info that is not globalists propaganda is ‘fake’.

      The Soviets had the same kinds of definitions. It was laughable then, it is laughable now. Deadly serious, but laughable.


    109. eaglesoars
      113 | February 15, 2017 9:28 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      Name, pussy, or it didn’t happen.

      There is no reason you should remember, but I posted it here because I want people to be aware of what a lowlife Schindler is. Supposedly he’s an NSA ‘analyst’ – or was – but the day of the inauguration he kept tweeting IT’S HAPPENING NOW! THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE HIM OUT! and how this was going to be the biggest story ever, blah blah blah. I don’t know if anybody ever calls him on it. Glenn Reynolds keeps giving him exposure and I think a lot less of Glenn for it.


    110. AZfederalist
      114 | February 15, 2017 9:30 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      https://twitter.com/OscarWildeGrey/status/831918823758376961

      1. Arrest sally Khon on Sedition charges
      2. Prosecute
      3. ?????
      4. Profit!


    111. AZfederalist
      115 | February 15, 2017 9:33 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      And I still have all of my own hair.

      Showoff!

      /Happy Birthday


    112. AZfederalist
      116 | February 15, 2017 9:34 pm

      RIX wrote:

      I like my lesbians smarter.

      Well, at least better looking.


    113. Deplorable Bumr50
      117 | February 15, 2017 9:35 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      The Wonderlic Cognitive Ability Test (formerly known as the Wonderlic Personnel Test) is a popular group intelligence test used to assess the aptitude of prospective employees for learning and problem-solving in a range of occupations. The Wonderlic is available in 12 different languages and is often used in college, entry level jobs, and team-making efforts. It consists of 50 multiple choice questions to be answered in 12 minutes.[1][2][3][4] The test was developed by Eldon F. Wonderlic.[3][5][6] The score is calculated as the number of correct answers given in the allotted time. A score of 20 is intended to indicate average intelligence (corresponding to an intelligence quotient of 100).[3] Wonderlic, Inc. claims a score of at least 10 points suggests a person is literate.[7] A new version was released in January 2007 called the Wonderlic Contemporary Cognitive Ability Test (formerly known as the Wonderlic Personnel Test – Revised), containing questions more appropriate to the 21st century; it is available both online and in printed form, whereas the original test is only available on paper. The Wonderlic test was based on another test called the Otis Self-Administering Test of Mental Ability.[1][4][8]

      The Wonderlic test, as a vocational and intelligence test, falls under the field of Industrial and Organizational Psychology. As a personnel test the Wonderlic is used to gauge an applicant’s job potential, educational potential, and training potential.[13] Six forms of this test are made available (A, B,C, D, E, and F) in which Wonderlic suggests that when two of these versions are to be used, the best combinations are A and B or D and F.[14] However, a study conducted by psychologists Kazmier and Browne (1959) shows that neither of these forms can be regarded as directly equivalent.[14] While there is no lack of tests that could be used in place of the Wonderlic, such as the IQ or the Mechanical Aptitude Test, it is a quick and simple vocational test for personnel recruitment and selection.[11] The Wonderlic test has been peer reviewed by the American Psychological Association and has been deemed worthy of field applications to the industrial use of personnel testing.[15] Other sources can be found on the database APA PsycNET.[16]

      ht – Infogalactic

      It’s timed pretty tightly, adding a bit of pressure. Not terribly difficult. (But they also gave me a timed ruler and instrument test, to gauge how quickly I could take accurate measurements. It was harder than that.)


    114. Deplorable Bumr50
      118 | February 15, 2017 9:45 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Here’s a sample.


    115. Deplorable Idapig
      119 | February 15, 2017 9:46 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      Name, pussy, or it didn’t happen.

      It didn’t happen.


    116. eaglesoars
      120 | February 15, 2017 9:47 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      Here’s a sample.

      i

      ha! I just ‘got back’ from looking at it. doesn’t look bad – i need a better display tho because I couldn’t see some decimal points.


    117. Deplorable Idapig
      121 | February 15, 2017 9:48 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      Just got home. Passed my stupid test. Bought myself a birthday present… tires for my truck… $500.00 Damn it, I used to be such a cheap date.

      Congrats on the test! And I wish your B-Day present was actually for YOU instead of your ride!


    118. Deplorable Idapig
      122 | February 15, 2017 9:50 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
      @ doriangrey:
      Was it a numbers and abilities test, or one of those stupid personality things where “there is no wrong answer, but we may not hire you based on them”?
      I had to take the Wonderlic for my current job. I finished, which is good on that, but they won’t give me my score.
      Numbers and abilities. Really stupid since I have already worked there before and nothing they tested me on has anything to do with what I will be doing.

      No, but now they know they can draft you if the need ever arises.


    119. Deplorable Bumr50
      123 | February 15, 2017 9:53 pm

      @ Deplorable Idapig:

      We’re spending the tax refund on tires and work boots for me.

      I’m pretty excited about it!

      🙂


    120. AZfederalist
      124 | February 15, 2017 9:57 pm

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      But look at it this way. When obama closed down the government, NOBODY noticed!

      Except for those trying to visit national monuments and national parks, places that the narcissistic prick petulantly, and publicly closed. They were even stopping people who were pulling off to the side of the road to see Mt. Rushmore.


    121. Deplorable Idapig
      125 | February 15, 2017 9:59 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ Deplorable Idapig:
      We’re spending the tax refund on tires and work boots for me.
      I’m pretty excited about it!

      I need one tire – at least I hope it’s just one. When the snow melted I saw my front passenger tire on my jeep was completely flat. Like sitting on the rim flat.


    122. Deplorable Idapig
      126 | February 15, 2017 10:01 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:
      But look at it this way. When obama closed down the government, NOBODY noticed!
      Except for those trying to visit national monuments and national parks, places that the narcissistic prick petulantly, and publicly closed. They were even stopping people who were pulling off to the side of the road to see Mt. Rushmore.

      Yeah – I was there and I remember. That was him actually using the police and rangers to close stuff that would never need to be closed in the first place if the government suddenly ceased to exist. Pure malice!


    123. Deplorable Bumr50
      127 | February 15, 2017 10:02 pm

      @ Deplorable Idapig:

      Oh, no!

      How long has it been sitting?


    124. Deplorable Bumr50
      128 | February 15, 2017 10:03 pm

      @ Deplorable Idapig:

      IIRC, they ONLY closed things where there was direct contact with the public.


    125. 129 | February 15, 2017 10:03 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      But look at it this way. When obama closed down the government, NOBODY noticed!

      Except for those trying to visit national monuments and national parks, places that the narcissistic prick petulantly, and publicly closed. They were even stopping people who were pulling off to the side of the road to see Mt. Rushmore.

      It is well past time for the Deep State to be profoundly reigned in.


    126. eaglesoars
      130 | February 15, 2017 10:06 pm

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      That was him actually using the police and rangers to close stuff that would never need to be closed in the first place if the government suddenly ceased to exist. Pure malice!

      Remember when they closed off the Mall – except for a demonstration in favor of illegal immigrants?


    127. Deplorable Idapig
      131 | February 15, 2017 10:08 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ Deplorable Idapig:
      Oh, no!
      How long has it been sitting?

      A couple of months. I’ve started the engine ever so often, but I couldn’t get it out of my driveway because the plow crew created a 3 foot high wall of ice in front of my driveway. It was so hard and thick I thought it might actually do body damage if I tried to ram it. Ive been using my truck that was parked on the street.


    128. Deplorable Idapig
      132 | February 15, 2017 10:11 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ Deplorable Idapig:
      IIRC, they ONLY closed things where there was direct contact with the public.

      Yeah – outdoor tourist things that didn’t need to be closed. Instead of closing down the government he actually used them to put up barriers to hinder people from being able to access them and then posted cops to shoo people away from them. Like I said, pure malice!


    129. Aussie Infidel
      133 | February 15, 2017 10:13 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      troutski wrote:

      He/she makes everyone reapply for their management positions competitively.

      Every new agency/dept sec that comes in has to hit the ground running. They can’t afford to get rid of the institutional knowledge willy/nilly and they wouldn’t know how to evaluate who is most qualified for the mgmt positions.

      Believe it or not, there is a lot of arcane but very useful knowledge hanging out at some of these places. There are people at USDA building an entire ‘library’ of seeds in the event of disaster, etc.

      Norway did that 30 years ago but on a global scale. So what’s new?

      🙂


    130. Deplorable Bumr50
      134 | February 15, 2017 10:15 pm

      @ Deplorable Idapig:

      If you’ve had some rapid temperature changes, you might want to put some air in it and watch it. (I recall you talking about weather)

      It might be OK.


    131. Deplorable Idapig
      135 | February 15, 2017 10:15 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:
      That was him actually using the police and rangers to close stuff that would never need to be closed in the first place if the government suddenly ceased to exist. Pure malice!
      Remember when they closed off the Mall – except for a demonstration in favor of illegal immigrants?

      The one that got me was Mount Vernon in Alexandria. It’s private property – not a government monument. It also has private parking. So the bastard closed down the road in front of the entrance since it was city, and therefore, government property. That meant no buses could drop people off and you couldn’t assess the parking areas. Direct interference to a private org trying to make money to keep the property maintained!


    132. Deplorable Idapig
      136 | February 15, 2017 10:17 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ Deplorable Idapig:
      If you’ve had some rapid temperature changes, you might want to put some air in it and watch it. (I recall you talking about weather)
      It might be OK.

      I actually have a gizmo that does that. I’ll fill it up tomorrow and see if it flattens out!


    133. eaglesoars
      137 | February 15, 2017 10:19 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      Hi Aussie! This is also global. I talked to the guy on the phone (I was supposed to actually go visit but I got sick) and we talked about the practical aspects of having to implement such a disaster plan. You can have the seeds, but you have to have the right soil, climate, etc. There are people all over the world experimenting with different growing environment/methods, looking not just to disaster scenarios, but to space travel. Fascinating stuff.


    134. eaglesoars
      138 | February 15, 2017 10:21 pm

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      The one that got me was Mount Vernon in Alexandria.

      yeah. were you living here then? I forget the name of the road that leads up to Mt. Vernon, but the first day, it was a parking lot, the area was a mess for miles. I had to take Bonnie to a vet that was on the other side of Mt Vernon, couldn’t get thru, had to come home.


    135. Deplorable Bumr50
      139 | February 15, 2017 10:24 pm

      @ Deplorable Idapig:

      I mean, you may have to take the wheel off or have someone come out to do it if you’ve lost the bead and it won’t take air, but if temps have changed a lot the tire itself might still be very serviceable.

      It’s not uncommon.


    136. AZfederalist
      140 | February 15, 2017 10:32 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      It is well past time for the Deep State to be profoundly reigned in.

      Amen to that.


    137. Deplorable Bumr50
      141 | February 15, 2017 10:34 pm

      Spies Keep Intelligence From Donald Trump

      U.S. intelligence officials have withheld sensitive intelligence from President Donald Trump because they are concerned it could be leaked or compromised, according to current and former officials familiar with the matter.

      The officials’ decision to keep information from Mr. Trump underscores the deep mistrust that has developed between the intelligence community and the president over his team’s contacts with the Russian government, as well as the enmity he has shown toward U.S. spy agencies. On Wednesday, Mr. Trump accused the agencies of leaking information to undermine him.

      In some of these cases of withheld information, officials have decided not to show Mr. Trump the sources and methods that the intelligence agencies use to collect information, the current and former officials said. Those sources and methods could include, for instance, the means that an agency uses to spy on a foreign government.

      A White House official said: “There is nothing that leads us to believe that this is an accurate account of what is actually happening.”

      This is from the WSJ, and has ZERO sourcing.

      IIRC, the editor of the WSJ just last week told his reporters to cover the WH objectively.

      They are, apparently, pushing back.


    138. Deplorable Bumr50
      142 | February 15, 2017 10:34 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      his team’s contacts with the Russian government

      ????


    139. AZfederalist
      144 | February 15, 2017 10:37 pm

      I can’t remember a time in my life when the media, the democrats, and the bureaucracy have mounted such a concerted assault against the duly elected President. … and only 3 weeks into his administration. This has gone from an opposition to outright sedition.


    140. eaglesoars
      145 | February 15, 2017 10:40 pm

      REPORT: Intel Officials Are Withholding Sensitive Information from Trump

      The WH is denying this and it looks like Schindler may be a source, so I don’t believe it yet.


    141. Deplorable Bumr50
      146 | February 15, 2017 10:40 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      We are witnessing history, however it goes.

      It’s going to change this nation forever.


    142. eaglesoars
      147 | February 15, 2017 10:40 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      IIRC, the editor of the WSJ just last week told his reporters to cover the WH objectively.

      GMTA!


    143. Deplorable Bumr50
      148 | February 15, 2017 10:41 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      See above.

      Again, ZERO sourcing in the WSJ piece.


    144. Deplorable Idapig
      149 | February 15, 2017 10:45 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:
      The one that got me was Mount Vernon in Alexandria.
      yeah. were you living here then? I forget the name of the road that leads up to Mt. Vernon, but the first day, it was a parking lot, the area was a mess for miles. I had to take Bonnie to a vet that was on the other side of Mt Vernon, couldn’t get thru, had to come home.

      Yeah, I was there then. Still working at the Pentagon. It was Washington St. That road follows the Potomac and there are all kinds of turnouts and picnic areas. The Park Service put barricades on all of them. I”ll never forget that they obeyed such an unlawful order!


    145. Deplorable Idapig
      150 | February 15, 2017 10:46 pm

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:
      Deplorable Idapig wrote:
      The one that got me was Mount Vernon in Alexandria.
      yeah. were you living here then? I forget the name of the road that leads up to Mt. Vernon, but the first day, it was a parking lot, the area was a mess for miles. I had to take Bonnie to a vet that was on the other side of Mt Vernon, couldn’t get thru, had to come home.

      Yeah, I was there then. Still working at the Pentagon. It was Washington St. That road follows the Potomac and there are all kinds of turnouts and picnic areas. The Park Service put barricades on all of them. I”ll never forget that they obeyed such an unlawful order!

      By that I mean it was all city land and NOT federal land. I still can’t believe they did that! Back then Virginia didn’t hold with such BS!


    146. Deplorable Idapig
      151 | February 15, 2017 10:49 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ Deplorable Idapig:
      I mean, you may have to take the wheel off or have someone come out to do it if you’ve lost the bead and it won’t take air, but if temps have changed a lot the tire itself might still be very serviceable.
      It’s not uncommon.

      I’ll find out tomorrow. One way or another. This place is very friendly when it comes to helping you out of fixes like that. There’s a tire place in town that has fixed my tires a couple times. I’ve yet to hand over a dime to them even though I came to BUY tires!


    147. Deplorable Idapig
      152 | February 15, 2017 10:51 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      This is from the WSJ, and has ZERO sourcing.

      IIRC, the editor of the WSJ just last week told his reporters to cover the WH objectively.

      They are, apparently, pushing back.

      Well, the editor said they could leave if they were unable to do their jobs. If that story had no sourcing then some pink slips need to be handed out!


    148. Deplorable Bumr50
      153 | February 15, 2017 10:52 pm

      @ Deplorable Idapig:

      Very cool to have good, honest help.

      Is it a Wrangler?


    149. Deplorable Idapig
      154 | February 15, 2017 10:53 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      I can’t remember a time in my life when the media, the democrats, and the bureaucracy have mounted such a concerted assault against the duly elected President. … and only 3 weeks into his administration. This has gone from an opposition to outright sedition.

      I agree. Trump needs to come up with a strategy and quick! Which is probably why we haven’t heard anything out of him the last few days!


    150. eaglesoars
      155 | February 15, 2017 10:55 pm

      bedtime. see yinz tomorrow.


    151. Deplorable Idapig
      156 | February 15, 2017 10:56 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ Deplorable Idapig:
      Very cool to have good, honest help.
      Is it a Wrangler?

      Cherokee. That thing has been a good ride for me for 15 years! I’ve gone back and forth across the country several times in that thing! She’s never let me down. Well, she’s broken down in my parking garage in Virginia a couple of times. But never when I needed her!


    152. coldwarrior
      157 | February 15, 2017 10:56 pm

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      The Park Service put barricades on all of them. I”ll never forget that they obeyed such an unlawful order!

      😆

      and you think that these federales work for you???

      g’night yinz!


    153. Deplorable Idapig
      158 | February 15, 2017 10:57 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      bedtime. see yinz tomorrow.

      G’nite, Eagle!


    154. Deplorable Bumr50
      159 | February 15, 2017 10:58 pm

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      Trump needs to come up with a strategy and quick!

      I don’t mean to sound like a broken record, but I think he’s holding back on purpose.

      I think “their” strategy hinges on him going on an unhinged firing spree.

      It’s important to remember the numbers the GOP has in Congress.

      They really can’t get rid of him, as bad as it can seem.


    155. coldwarrior
      160 | February 15, 2017 10:58 pm

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      Cherokee. That thing has been a good ride for me for 15 years!

      those things were awesome, i had one that ran forever.


    156. Deplorable Bumr50
      161 | February 15, 2017 10:59 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      @ coldwarrior:

      Nite, yinz!!


    157. Deplorable Idapig
      162 | February 15, 2017 11:05 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:
      Cherokee. That thing has been a good ride for me for 15 years!
      those things were awesome, i had one that ran forever.

      Yeah I’ve noticed that about the model I have. Them old boxy types. The type you NEVER see broken down on the side of the road! I’ve had guys even say that to me when they see me get out of it at the store! Any thought I’ve had of getting rid of it stops when I think of all the newer models that HAVE been recalled or I see them on the side of the road! Stick with what works!


    158. Deplorable Bumr50
      163 | February 15, 2017 11:19 pm

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      I see them on the side of the road!

      FIX IT AGAIN, TONY!!


    159. Deplorable Bumr50
      164 | February 15, 2017 11:24 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      Speaking of Tony…


    160. Deplorable Idapig
      165 | February 15, 2017 11:43 pm

      G’nite all!


    161. 166 | February 16, 2017 12:10 am

      I would like to take a moment to thank all of you for showing up for my birthday party, now piss off, go home and go play silly buggers somewhere else…

      Oh…. Wait…. You’re already at home… ok… never mind…

      We now return you to your regularly scheduled program…


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