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  • Let The Cuts Begin!

    by coldwarrior ( 57 Comments › )
    Filed under Donald Trump, Economy, Open thread at March 13th, 2017 - 10:15 am

    But But But Trump isn’t a real CONSERVATIVE!!!! Isn’t that what I was told? Well, they are right, he isn’t a real Con-servative ™ (r) inc. That is FOR SURE!

    President Trump’s budget proposal this week would shake the federal government to its core if enacted, culling back numerous programs and expediting a historic contraction of the federal workforce.

    This would be the first time the government has executed cuts of this magnitude — and all at once — since the drawdown following World War II, economists and budget analysts said.

    The spending budget Trump is set to release Thursday will offer the clearest snapshot of his vision for the size and role of government. Aides say that the president sees a new Washington emerging from the budget process, one that prioritizes the military and homeland security while slashing many other areas, including housing, foreign assistance, environmental programs, public broadcasting and research. Simply put, government would be smaller and less involved in regulating life in America, with private companies and states playing a much bigger role.

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    57 Responses to “Let The Cuts Begin!”
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    1. Deplorable Idapig
      1 | March 13, 2017 11:45 am

      Getting us back to what was originally intended!?? If he can do that he’ll be one of the best presidents ever!


    2. Deplorable Idapig
      2 | March 13, 2017 11:46 am

      One thing that should be gotten rid of is the Chamber of Commerce. Seems they are behind a LOT of this garbage!


    3. lobo91
      3 | March 13, 2017 11:48 am

      Cory Booker: Republicans Cannot Just Force GOP Healthcare Bill Down Our Throats

      Actually, yeah…I think they kinda can…


    4. Deplorable Idapig
      4 | March 13, 2017 12:02 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      Cory Booker: Republicans Cannot Just Force GOP Healthcare Bill Down Our Throats

      Actually, yeah…I think they kinda can…

      I still can’t grasp the utter gall of San Fran Nan saying the American people have a right to know what’s in the Bill before it’s passed!


    5. lobo91
      5 | March 13, 2017 12:06 pm

      @ Deplorable Idapig:

      If it wasn’t for double standards, Democrats would have no standards at all


    6. 6 | March 13, 2017 12:20 pm

      @ lobo91:
      Why not? Obamacare was shoved down our throats.


    7. Deplorable Idapig
      7 | March 13, 2017 12:34 pm

      @ right_wing2:
      HI Rightwing! Weren’t you the one who told me to inflate my flat tire (when the snow cleared my jeep was sitting on the rim) to see if it was ok? Well, I did and it hasn’t deflated yet! About 6 weeks now!


    8. 8 | March 13, 2017 12:53 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      Cory Booker: Republicans Cannot Just Force GOP Healthcare Bill Down Our Throats

      Actually, yeah…I think they kinda can…

      Except… It ain’t going to be their throat it gets crammed up…


    9. RIX
      9 | March 13, 2017 1:24 pm

      Trump is not a conservative, he is a right of senter populist . The “real” conservatives only got control
      of the House and Senate because of the Tea Party. The White House is Republican because of populists.


    10. RIX
      10 | March 13, 2017 1:30 pm

      @ RIX:
      Center


    11. Deplorable Idapig
      11 | March 13, 2017 1:38 pm

      RIX wrote:

      Trump is not a conservative, he is a right of senter populist . The “real” conservatives only got control
      of the House and Senate because of the Tea Party. The White House is Republican because of populists.

      He might be the populist president, but because he’s not a career politician he’s actually doing what he said he would do. Most politicians promise the moon and deliver nothing! They play politics and deal making as soon as their elected. Trump doesn’t seem to care about being re-elected. He just cares about fixing what he sees as wrong with American government.


    12. 12 | March 13, 2017 1:44 pm

      Simply put, government would be smaller and less involved in regulating life in America, with private companies and states playing a much bigger role.

      If Trump pulls this off, he will be remembered as the Most Conservative and Patriotic POTUS in American history.


    13. RIX
      13 | March 13, 2017 1:52 pm

      @ Deplorable Idapig:
      Well said. I really think that at this point in his life Trump has no hidden agenda, he is motivated by
      patriotism. As a populist he is not confined by trying to prove ideological purity.
      He is by nature a problem solver.


    14. eaglesoars
      14 | March 13, 2017 2:17 pm

      What. The. Actual. Fuck?

      A little-noticed bill moving through Congress would allow companies to require employees to undergo genetic testing or risk paying a penalty of thousands of dollars, and would let employers see that genetic and other health information.

      Giving employers such power is now prohibited by legislation including the 2008 genetic privacy and nondiscrimination law known as GINA. The new bill gets around that landmark law by stating explicitly that GINA and other protections do not apply when genetic tests are part of a “workplace wellness” program.

      The bill was approved by a House committee on Wednesday, with all 22 Republicans supporting it and all 17 Democrats opposed. It has been overshadowed by the debate over the House GOP proposal to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, but the genetic testing bill is expected to folded into a second ACA-related measure containing a grab-bag of provisions that do not affect federal spending, as the main bill does.
      []
      Employers say they need the changes because those two landmark laws are “not aligned in a consistent manner” with laws about workplace wellness programs, as an employer group said in congressional testimony last week.

      Unfortunately, the article doesn’t give the bill number/name, or the sponsors, so I can’t look it up


    15. 15 | March 13, 2017 2:23 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Unfortunately, the article doesn’t give the bill number/name, or the sponsors, so I can’t look it up

      Heads should roll over this.


    16. eaglesoars
      16 | March 13, 2017 3:02 pm

      ok, here we go

      The bill, Preserving Employee Wellness Programs Act, HR 1313, was introduced by Rep. Virginia Foxx, (R-N.C.), who chairs the Committee on Education and the Workforce. A committee statement said the bill provides employers “the legal certainty they need to offer employee wellness plans, helping to promote a healthy workforce and lower health care costs.” It passed on a party-line vote, with all 22 Republicans supporting it and all 17 Democrats opposed.


    17. SciFiGuy
      17 | March 13, 2017 3:03 pm

      “A little-noticed bill moving through Congress would allow companies to require employees to undergo genetic testing or risk paying a penalty of thousands of dollars, and would let employers see that genetic and other health information.”

      Oh No!! Now they will find out those among us who are Mutants. SHould have seen this coming with all the movies and such… LOL


    18. eaglesoars
      18 | March 13, 2017 3:06 pm

      and it even covers family members. It makes no exception for people with no spouse and/or no children

      (b) Collection of information.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the collection of information about the manifested disease or disorder of a family member shall not be considered an unlawful acquisition of genetic information with respect to another family member as part of a workplace wellness program


    19. Deplorable Idapig
      19 | March 13, 2017 3:14 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      I can’t believe they’d do this! I’m so against this! Theoretically a person could be denied employment if a cancer marker (or any other disease) showed up because it could mean long term absence and they wouldn’t want the future risk.

      Hopefully it dies somewhere in committee. Or a Trump veto.


    20. 20 | March 13, 2017 3:14 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Okay that needs to go down now.


    21. Deplorable Idapig
      21 | March 13, 2017 3:15 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      ok, here we go

      The bill, Preserving Employee Wellness Programs Act, HR 1313, was introduced by Rep. Virginia Foxx, (R-N.C.), who chairs the Committee on Education and the Workforce. A committee statement said the bill provides employers “the legal certainty they need to offer employee wellness plans, helping to promote a healthy workforce and lower health care costs.” It passed on a party-line vote, with all 22 Republicans supporting it and all 17 Democrats opposed.

      I can’t believe the dems are right on this one! It’s such a HUGE invasion of personal privacy I can’t believe republicans would be ok with this!


    22. eaglesoars
      22 | March 13, 2017 3:31 pm

      Here are the members of the Education and Workforce Committee


    23. eaglesoars
      23 | March 13, 2017 3:35 pm

      This is Snopes background on the bill. It describes participation in ‘wellness pgms’ as voluntary and frankly it is not and even if it is, it’s still an outrage


    24. eaglesoars
      24 | March 13, 2017 4:01 pm

      Amy Krouse Rosenthal died today. Who?

      But if I tell you “That terminally ill woman who wrote that amazing essay ‘You May Want to Marry My Husband’ died today”….

      her husband was a lucky guy


    25. Deplorable Idapig
      25 | March 13, 2017 4:05 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      This is Snopes background on the bill. It describes participation in ‘wellness pgms’ as voluntary and frankly it is not and even if it is, it’s still an outrage

      It’s by no means voluntary if fines are involved with not participating. That’s the very definition of compulsory!


    26. eaglesoars
      26 | March 13, 2017 4:27 pm

      oh ffs. Listening to FBN – apparently the Ryan ‘bronze’ plan has a $12k deductible.

      I go on Medicare in April, thank God


    27. Aussie Infidel
      27 | March 13, 2017 5:27 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      and it even covers family members. It makes no exception for people with no spouse and/or no children

      (b) Collection of information.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the collection of information about the manifested disease or disorder of a family member shall not be considered an unlawful acquisition of genetic information with respect to another family member as part of a workplace wellness program

      This bill has the fingerprints of those into insurance denial and medical intervention denial written all over it. It portends things like long term eugenics through isolation and medical withdrawal for ‘genetically deficient’ individuals. Linked to medical denial of services that feeds into ‘death panels’ who decide who genetically is a burden on the state with state enforced euthanasia for deficient individuals. 1936 NAZI Germany writ large. Sanger must be smiling somewhere in hell.

      These fascist neo-Marxists (of whichever party) need to be identified,isolated, and destroyed and quickly as possible before this evil spreads and destroys Western culture totally.


    28. Aussie Infidel
      28 | March 13, 2017 5:31 pm

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:

      This is Snopes background on the bill. It describes participation in ‘wellness pgms’ as voluntary and frankly it is not and even if it is, it’s still an outrage

      It’s by no means voluntary if fines are involved with not participating. That’s the very definition of compulsory!

      Voluntary as in being ‘nudged’ Obama style. BHO wasn’t the only satanically obsessed individual in the US government. There are plenty more scattered across party lines. These evil apparachniks need outing and sidelining ASP before their wicked plans get established into the fabric of society.


    29. eaglesoars
      29 | March 13, 2017 5:38 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      Both my parents had previous marriages. Unbeknownst to him, my father’s wife was epileptic. It was not illegal for epileptics to marry in Pennsylvania but they were supposedly not supposed to bear children (how they were to enforce that, I have no idea – I know she wasn’t sterilized). He divorced her because she ran around on him, but what he did was get an annulment based on the deception.

      One of my cousins was mildly ‘retarded’ (we think now it was Fragile X but there was no way to diagnose that back then). He married a woman with a similar impairment and they had a daughter – who is perfectly normal.

      I’m not sure even my dad’s ex would be permitted to survive conception in the world those people envision. Everyone of those people lived pretty productive lives, more so than some politicians I can think of.


    30. eaglesoars
      30 | March 13, 2017 5:40 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      It’s by no means voluntary if fines are involved with not participating.

      You misread that. The wellness programs are voluntary. The penalty is levied if you join and then refuse to provide the genetic data.


    31. Aussie Infidel
      31 | March 13, 2017 5:46 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      This is Snopes background on the bill. It describes participation in ‘wellness pgms’ as voluntary and frankly it is not and even if it is, it’s still an outrage

      Be aware that Snopes had its own agenda and cannot be relied upon to give an honest objective view.

      That said so called ‘wellness programs’ have a creepy ring to them that harks back to the period 1933-1938 with ‘Health and Happiness’ programs devised by NAZI Germany to produce the super-race demanded by the Reich. Structured ‘
      breeding ‘ programs with genetically selected breeding, the destruction of the family unit, with the State deeply involved in the formation and upbringing of the new German citizen, compliant to the ‘dictats’ of the State as units of labour and combatants dedicated to die for the State. The famous 1936 Hitlerjugend cohort who went onto fight in the SS Hitlerjugend Division and 12 SS Panzer Division of 18 year olds in the hedgerows behind Gold Beach after D day. They always fought to the death as their programming had demanded of them.

      Bills like this one are the start of the slippery slope that follows all such follies and wickedness no matter what the supposed justification and starred visions.


    32. Aussie Infidel
      32 | March 13, 2017 5:58 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      You misread that. The wellness programs are voluntary. The penalty is levied if you join and then refuse to provide the genetic data.

      Bait a switch

      Bait the hook and have it all light and goodness with ‘nudge voluntary’ sugar but once captured the ‘voluntary part evaporates and the hidden mailed fist of compulsion (through fines) is exposed.

      Anything that offers sweetness and light but has downstream compulsion should be given a very wide bert . If they can’t show the hard bits up front right from the get-go then they are engaged in a bait and switch canard.


    33. Aussie Infidel
      33 | March 13, 2017 5:59 pm

      Bloody automated correction!

      🙂


    34. Aussie Infidel
      34 | March 13, 2017 6:01 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      members of the Education and Workforce Committee

      Here are the targets … members of the Education and Workforce Committee…

      I’ll hold ’em and you swing the axe.

      🙂


    35. Aussie Infidel
      35 | March 13, 2017 6:02 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      http://edworkforce.house.gov/committee/subcommitteesjurisdictions.htm

      I’ll hold ’em and you swing the axe.

      🙂


    36. Aussie Infidel
      36 | March 13, 2017 6:21 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Here are the members of the Education and Workforce Committee

      Looked at the line up to see (facetiously whether there was someone named Meyer amongst their line up) Kurt Meyer was the 33 year old fanatically NAZI uberstrumbahnfuhrer ‘general’ who commanded the SS Hitlerjugend Division in 1944. Captured he was condemned to hang but the Canadians commuted the sentence ‘because he was nay following orders’ and he spent 10 years in prison. Released in 1954 he or some of his family moved to the US. Bad blood always rises to the top. No Meyer present in the Ed & Workforce Committee however!

      🙂


    37. eaglesoars
      37 | March 13, 2017 6:34 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      You’re absolutely right. This is the frog in the pot/slippery slope situation writ large. Hubby was walking out the door as I was telling him about this breathlessly repeating HR1313HR1313 blah blah blah so he would remember. And he couldn’t believe the vote count. He was closing the car door and I was yelling THIS IS NAZI GERMANY ALL OVER AGAIN!!

      If he manages to find time to talk to anyone about it today, he’ll come home with “Oh honey, it’s a voluntary thing, nothing to worry about” and then I start yelling.

      REMEMBER WHEN YOU SAID THE SAME THING ABOUT OBAMA AND YOU DIDN’T LISTEN TO ME??

      He hates hearing that. Tough shit.


    38. eaglesoars
      38 | March 13, 2017 6:38 pm

      TA DAAAA!!!

      Theresa will send the Brexit bill to the Queen – article 50 will be triggered

      She seems to have got the House of Lords by the short hairs


    39. Deplorable Idapig
      39 | March 13, 2017 6:54 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      It’s by no means voluntary if fines are involved with not participating.

      You misread that. The wellness programs are voluntary. The penalty is levied if you join and then refuse to provide the genetic data.

      I’ve read from other sources that companies would be fined for not participating. But I haven’t read the actual Bill yet. So, I don’t know. But it would be like them to penalize companies who don’t want to participate.


    40. eaglesoars
      40 | March 13, 2017 6:56 pm

      @ Deplorable Idapig:

      The bill is at the link, less than a page long, an easy read.

      have to get to the store, later.


    41. Deplorable Idapig
      41 | March 13, 2017 7:13 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ Deplorable Idapig:

      The bill is at the link, less than a page long, an easy read.

      have to get to the store, later.

      What I see mentioned over and over in that Bill is”Notwithstanding any other provision of law,” which means this is going to be entertwined with existing law. Two of which are mentioned is the Americans with Disabilities Act and the ACA. The ACA says: Congress intended that employers would be permitted to implement health promotion and prevention programs that provide incentives, rewards, rebates, surcharges, penalties, or other inducements related to wellness programs,” which tells me they are counting on existing law to penalize those who don’t participate – as they do with the ACA itself.

      It is one tangled mess they are seeking to implement!


    42. 42 | March 13, 2017 7:27 pm

      @ Deplorable Idapig:
      I don’t remember if I suggested that but I’m glad it worked.


    43. Deplorable Idapig
      43 | March 13, 2017 8:52 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ Deplorable Idapig:
      I don’t remember if I suggested that but I’m glad it worked.

      I couldn’t remember either, but I thought it was you. And yes, it worked!


    44. AZfederalist
      44 | March 13, 2017 10:34 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      Cory Booker: Republicans Cannot Just Force GOP Healthcare Bill Down Our Throats

      Actually, yeah…I think they kinda can…

      Apparently Booker has forgotten all about 2009.


    45. coldwarrior
      45 | March 13, 2017 10:49 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      lobo91 wrote:

      Cory Booker: Republicans Cannot Just Force GOP Healthcare Bill Down Our Throats

      Actually, yeah…I think they kinda can…

      Apparently Booker has forgotten all about 2009.

      raaaaacist!


    46. AZfederalist
      46 | March 13, 2017 10:59 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      raaaaacist!

      Oh. Sorry.


    47. Deplorable Idapig
      47 | March 13, 2017 11:21 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      lobo91 wrote:

      Cory Booker: Republicans Cannot Just Force GOP Healthcare Bill Down Our Throats

      Actually, yeah…I think they kinda can…

      Apparently Booker has forgotten all about 2009.

      He hasn’t forgotten. It’s just that it’s ok for them but not for us.


    48. coldwarrior
      48 | March 13, 2017 11:33 pm

      President Trump’s administration has told the State Department to cut more than 50 percent of U.S. funding to United Nations programs, Foreign Policy reported…

      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!

      Winning!


    49. 49 | March 13, 2017 11:41 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      Now if we could only make the same kind of cuts to corporate welfare.


    50. coldwarrior
      50 | March 13, 2017 11:45 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      Now if we could only make the same kind of cuts to corporate welfare.

      just cut their taxes and de-regulate, then you wont need corporate welfare….which is nothing more than govt picking the winners and losers. no chance of corruption there, eh?


    51. Deplorable Idapig
      51 | March 13, 2017 11:48 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      President Trump’s administration has told the State Department to cut more than 50 percent of U.S. funding to United Nations programs, Foreign Policy reported…

      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!

      Winning!

      Oh I’d love for him to just pull us out altogether. Cut ALL the funding and tell them to find a new location to house their cabal someplace other than US territory. Maybe start a Western Civilization Coalition of some sort. No islamic countries allowed!


    52. Deplorable Idapig
      52 | March 13, 2017 11:52 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      Now if we could only make the same kind of cuts to corporate welfare.

      just cut their taxes and de-regulate, then you wont need corporate welfare….which is nothing more than govt picking the winners and losers. no chance of corruption there, eh?

      I’d like to see companies succeed (adapt) or fail on their own. We used to be good at that!


    53. Deplorable Idapig
      53 | March 13, 2017 11:53 pm

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      Now if we could only make the same kind of cuts to corporate welfare.

      just cut their taxes and de-regulate, then you wont need corporate welfare….which is nothing more than govt picking the winners and losers. no chance of corruption there, eh?

      I’d like to see companies succeed (adapt) or fail on their own. We used to be good at that!

      And yank all that gov’t funding for all those failed green companies that were started just so Obama could pay off his friends!


    54. Aussie Infidel
      54 | March 14, 2017 12:04 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      TA DAAAA!!!

      Theresa will send the Brexit bill to the Queen – article 50 will be triggered

      She seems to have got the House of Lords by the short hairs

      Too true and the degenerates in the Lords would probably enjoy the short and curly treatment a little too much!

      🙂


    55. Aussie Infidel
      55 | March 14, 2017 12:07 am

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      President Trump’s administration has told the State Department to cut more than 50 percent of U.S. funding to United Nations programs, Foreign Policy reported…

      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!

      Winning!

      🙂
      Oh I’d love for him to just pull us out altogether. Cut ALL the funding and tell them to find a new location to house their cabal someplace other than US territory. Maybe start a Western Civilization Coalition of some sort. No islamic countries allowed!

      NOOOOO!

      Stay in and just VETO EVERYTHING so that the whole thing implodes and everyone walks away.


    56. Deplorable Idapig
      56 | March 14, 2017 12:39 am

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      President Trump’s administration has told the State Department to cut more than 50 percent of U.S. funding to United Nations programs, Foreign Policy reported…

      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!

      Winning!

      Oh I’d love for him to just pull us out altogether. Cut ALL the funding and tell them to find a new location to house their cabal someplace other than US territory. Maybe start a Western Civilization Coalition of some sort. No islamic countries allowed!

      NOOOOO!

      Stay in and just VETO EVERYTHING so that the whole thing implodes and everyone walks away.

      We provide most of the money, so defunding them would be a great start. But, really, what good are they anyway. Their resolutions have no teeth anyway, so it doesn’t matter what hissy-fit they throw.


    57. 57 | March 14, 2017 6:58 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      I think you’d still have the Chamber of Commerce wanting freebies.


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