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  • Fear Mongering Propagandist Jackasses

    by coldwarrior ( 117 Comments › )
    Filed under Open thread, Politics at April 10th, 2017 - 5:36 pm

    The Corporate Press must have received orders with bonuses to make the Russians the ‘really bad guys’ and to make people believe we are on the verge of WW3. I know they have to sell papers and sell clicks and do what their corporate masters tell them to do, but seriously…

    We are not entering WW3, hell, this isn’t even CLOSE to the crap that used to happen in the Cold War, and I should and do know 😉 .

    Russian subs patrolling ‘close’ to the East Coast of America!!!

    ‘Fear’ over a listening post!

    EAVESDROPPING!!!

    And this one is my favorite:

    ‘Dangerous’ Fly-Bye’s
    yeah, mmmhmmm….well, We sure would fly pretty damned close to Russian ships if they were that close to say…Groton or Portsmouth…

    I bet this scares the hell of the Millennials and the Lefties though, and that might make all of this worth it.

    BTW, where did the Susan Rice and Russia / Trump stories go?

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    117 Responses to “Fear Mongering Propagandist Jackasses”
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    1. 1 | April 10, 2017 8:03 pm

      WWIII will start because Trump’s a crazy war monger who doesn’t care about the men & women in the military (they’re all poor minorities you know) and because he has money invested in companies who build missiles, bombs, rockets & tanks.
      ///


    2. Aussie Infidel
      2 | April 10, 2017 8:21 pm

      Agitpop.

      Takes me back to the Cold War and the denizens of the neo-Marxist Progressive Left who apparently didn’t die out completely. They may need some help in that.

      🙂

      Any Chinese action in dealing with North Korea will stop short of creating instability in North Korea by cutting Pyongyang’s economic lifeline. But as Beijing struggles with its unpredictable and increasingly recalcitrant neighbor, even those in Chinese policy circles are beginning consider a different approach, including a possible decapitation strategy, to bring North Korea’s leadership to heel.

      WINNING

      🙂


    3. coldwarrior
      3 | April 10, 2017 8:27 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      WINNING!

      mrs coldwarrior has returned home from work, a 2011 kendal jackson merlot and a nice artisan french baguette, spaish olive oil, and proper italian smoked meats await to be had outside at the fire.

      MOAR WINNING!

      😆


    4. RIX
      4 | April 10, 2017 8:30 pm

      It is supreme irony, the Left used to rush to the defense of Russia during the days of the old USSR.
      Now they Absolutel loathe Russia, what changed? Let me see, they are not Communists anymore?


    5. eaglesoars
      5 | April 10, 2017 8:56 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      including a possible decapitation strategy, to bring North Korea’s leadership to heel.

      I’ve been expecting L’il Kim to get whacked ever since he assassinated his brother a few weeks ago. You can keep people in line with a reasonable amount of fear, but frighten them too deeply and they will take you out.


    6. eaglesoars
      6 | April 10, 2017 8:57 pm

      And you thought Walter Duranty was dead

      FAKE NEWS: The New York Times Wins Pulitzer Prize For ‘Russian Hacking’ Hoax


    7. RIX
      7 | April 10, 2017 8:58 pm

      http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/10/prominent-democrats-call-for-anti-war-congresswoman-to-be-ousted-from-office/
      @ DailyCaller
      Ok, you can argue the issue, but now they are picking on the best looking person in Congress ever!
      It’s just wrong, amirite?


    8. eaglesoars
      8 | April 10, 2017 9:00 pm

      BTW, where did the Susan Rice and Russia / Trump stories go?

      Susan Rice may want to stop giving interviews at this point.

      WaPo is telling her to shut up because she’s making them look like schmucks


    9. eaglesoars
      9 | April 10, 2017 9:01 pm

      statement from Gen. Mattis

      “The assessment of the Department of Defense is that the strike resulted in the damage or destruction of fuel and ammunition sites, air defense capabilities, and 20 percent of Syria’s operational aircraft,”


    10. eaglesoars
      10 | April 10, 2017 9:10 pm

      Dem congress critter from Mass. (Mouton?) says collusion w/Russia to create Syria strike as a false flag could be a distraction from Russia collusion in election fraud.

      Or something.

      Tucker is having a ball


    11. RIX
      11 | April 10, 2017 9:25 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      I saw that. The guy was like a functional imbecile.


    12. eaglesoars
      12 | April 10, 2017 10:45 pm

      a few thoughts before bed:

      purely anecdotal but I saw this a couple or more times today; you know who has absolutely no problems w/what Trump did? Inner city black guys. “he’s showing them who the boss is” and “you don’t be gassing babies, man, you do NOT do that”

      I’m surprised that the European countries are supportive of what Trump did. They don’t seem to be expressing concerns about more refugees as a result of more conflict that I see from pundits, etc. Maybe it’s that they think American strength on display makes for a more orderly world? I dunno.

      there was one more thing but I’m too tired to remember. ok, nite.


    13. Deplorable Idapig
      13 | April 10, 2017 10:58 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Agitpop.

      Takes me back to the Cold War and the denizens of the neo-Marxist Progressive Left who apparently didn’t die out completely. They may need some help in that.

      Oh they never died out. All the leftist eco groups and special interest groups are all populated by the marxists.


    14. coldwarrior
      14 | April 11, 2017 12:15 am

      and i guarantee you that this shit was all ‘praise JEEEEZUS’ and ‘AMEN’ every sunday morning.

      go get born again somewhere else shitbag.


    15. AZfederalist
      15 | April 11, 2017 12:17 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      And you thought Walter Duranty was dead

      FAKE NEWS: The New York Times Wins Pulitzer Prize For ‘Russian Hacking’ Hoax

      from downstairs:
      All of those prizes (Pulitzer, Nobel, etc.) have just become means for liberals to congratulate themselves for propaganda and other PC stuff. They no longer have any real meaning.


    16. Aussie Infidel
      16 | April 11, 2017 12:19 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      WINNING!

      mrs coldwarrior has returned home from work, a 2011 kendal jackson merlot and a nice artisan french baguette, spaish olive oil, and proper italian smoked meats await to be had outside at the fire.

      MOAR WINNING!

      I’m guessing that Mrs CW will decide to renew your contract for another year !

      🙂

      Annual renewals keep you on your toes CW. I’ve heard on the grapevine that Mrs. CW thinks that you’re a ‘keeper’ but don’t let it go to your head mate

      HEH!

      🙂


    17. Aussie Infidel
      17 | April 11, 2017 12:21 am

      RIX wrote:

      It is supreme irony, the Left used to rush to the defense of Russia during the days of the old USSR.
      Now they Absolutel loathe Russia, what changed? Let me see, they are not Communists anymore?

      Russia found its religious mojo and Christian underpinnings again!

      No wonder the Progressive Left hate them now

      🙂


    18. Aussie Infidel
      18 | April 11, 2017 12:25 am

      RIX wrote:

      http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/10/prominent-democrats-call-for-anti-war-congresswoman-to-be-ousted-from-office/
      @ DailyCaller
      Ok, you can argue the issue, but now they are picking on the best looking person in Congress ever!
      It’s just wrong, amirite?

      Anyone who Howard Dean hates can’t be all that bad!

      🙂

      She’s a real looker too! What’s she doing in the Democrat party? Most DNC women look like they fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.

      🙂

      🙂


    19. Deplorable Idapig
      19 | April 11, 2017 12:56 am

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      It is supreme irony, the Left used to rush to the defense of Russia during the days of the old USSR.
      Now they Absolutel loathe Russia, what changed? Let me see, they are not Communists anymore?

      Russia found its religious mojo and Christian underpinnings again!

      No wonder the Progressive Left hate them now

      Plus ssm is illegal and no gay pride parades are allowed. And they fight against the moslems in their own country.


    20. RIX
      21 | April 11, 2017 8:19 am

      @ momcat:
      Good morning Momcat. No matter how much the Media stays in smear cycle Trump gets it done.l


    21. eaglesoars
      22 | April 11, 2017 8:20 am

      @ momcat:

      which begs the question; I assume China needs the coal, so where/how is it going to make up the shortfall?


    22. eaglesoars
      23 | April 11, 2017 8:22 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ momcat:

      which begs the question; I assume China needs the coal, so where/how is it going to make up the shortfall?

      To make up for the shortfall from North Korea, China has ramped up imports from the United States in an unexpected boon for U.S. President Donald Trump

      ‘unexpected’. There’s that word again. And I think we’ll be using that term ‘magnificent bastard’ again.


    23. RIX
      24 | April 11, 2017 9:01 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      This I can tell you 100%, we are winning bigly, believe me.


    24. Deplorable Idapig
      25 | April 11, 2017 9:56 am

      Good morning, everybody!


    25. Deplorable Idapig
      27 | April 11, 2017 4:36 pm

      What the hell?!! Where IS everybody today?!!


    26. 28 | April 11, 2017 4:39 pm

      Building 5Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      What the hell?!! Where IS everybody today?!!

      They all snuck off to the local pub for a snoot or two while the rest of you were working.


    27. Aussie Infidel
      29 | April 11, 2017 4:50 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ momcat:

      which begs the question; I assume China needs the coal, so where/how is it going to make up the shortfall?

      Australia is open for business when it comes to coal and iron ore.The world’s quarry!


    28. coldwarrior
      30 | April 11, 2017 4:56 pm

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      What the hell?!! Where IS everybody today?!!

      😆

      sleeping…i have the night shift at the salt mines


    29. coldwarrior
      31 | April 11, 2017 5:01 pm

      In terms of the future of Bashar al-Assad, it is important to us that we undertake a political process that leads to the final conclusion of how Syria will be governed. It is our policy for a unified Syria that is governed by the people of Syria. I think it is clear to all of us that the reign of the Assad family is coming to an end; but the question of how that ends and the transition itself could be very important, in our view, to the durability, the stability inside of a unified Syria, and its stability and durability of the outcome going forward.

      So that’s why we are not presupposing how that occurs, but I think it is clear that we see no further role for the Assad regime longer-term given that they have effectively given up their legitimacy with these type of attacks.

      this from SoS tllerson…just what we need, more neo-con regime change. i wonder if trump and the rest are gonna send any of kids over there to do the fighting and then the ‘nation building’?

      the entire M.E. is not worth ONE DROP of american blood.


    30. eaglesoars
      32 | April 11, 2017 5:08 pm

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      What the hell?!! Where IS everybody today?!!

      spring cleaning. seriously

      anyway – did anyone see the Mattis presser? I just caught the quick commentary saying that they are absolutely convinced ISIS could not have done this, they had no access to the chems and there’s this…

      Scroll down to Apr 11 10:18 Bridget Johnson

      Isis has only mustard gas


    31. eaglesoars
      33 | April 11, 2017 5:11 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      the entire M.E. is not worth ONE DROP of american blood.

      the problem is the war isn’t over until the enemy says it’s over


    32. 34 | April 11, 2017 5:11 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      this from SoS tllerson…just what we need, more neo-con regime change.

      Pablum from imbeciles who either cannot or refuse to comprehend Islam.


    33. 35 | April 11, 2017 5:12 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      the entire M.E. is not worth ONE DROP of american blood.

      the problem is the war isn’t over until the enemy says it’s over

      Or… until there is a brand new sun born over them.


    34. Aussie Infidel
      36 | April 11, 2017 5:16 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      the entire M.E. is not worth ONE DROP of american blood.

      the problem is the war isn’t over until the enemy says it’s over

      Or there the quiet of the grave all over the ME where ISIS used to operate.


    35. Aussie Infidel
      37 | April 11, 2017 5:18 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      this from SoS tllerson…just what we need, more neo-con regime change.

      Pablum from imbeciles who either cannot or refuse to comprehend Islam.

      There seems to be quite a lot of that going around.

      They used to get away with it but now it’s a different kettle of fish. The folks have twigged to their nefarious games and manipulations.

      🙂


    36. Aussie Infidel
      38 | April 11, 2017 5:20 pm

      Chinese to meet and deals (hopefully) to make!

      🙂

      Actually if the Chinese military are as incompetent as their businessmen the West has nothing to worry about. Smoke and mirrors as far as the eye can see.

      🙂


    37. coldwarrior
      39 | April 11, 2017 5:20 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      the entire M.E. is not worth ONE DROP of american blood.

      the problem is the war isn’t over until the enemy says it’s over

      we dont have the guts to do what is necessary to win over there.

      the saudis want a pipeline through syria, the iranians want a pipeline through syria. the russians want assad in power so they can keep their naval base and so all of those orthodox chritians in syria’s west dont get massacred. assad is their man, has ben for years.

      so, essentially, we are working for the saudi’s (as usual, nothing new here) for a pipeline to europe. i wonder if tillerson’s boys at exxon or kuchar’s boys at goldman sachs have any $$$ in this?

      so, assad will get replaced, there will total massacre of the christians, just like everywhere else we’ve touche, and then there sill be chaos as the thing shakes out and the real power there will be achmed the terrorist.


    38. 40 | April 11, 2017 5:22 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      Basically.


    39. 42 | April 11, 2017 5:26 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      I’m no fan of Assad, but the alternative could be worse. We need to stay out of who’s running what country.


    40. eaglesoars
      43 | April 11, 2017 5:28 pm

      “China has a bottom line that it will protect at all costs, that is, the security and stability of northeast China… If the bottom line is touched, China will employ all means available including the military means to strike back. By that time, it is not an issue of discussion whether China acquiesces in the US’ blows, but the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) will launch attacks to DPRK nuclear facilities on its own.”

      Editorial in Global Times, China’s Commie paper


    41. 44 | April 11, 2017 5:31 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      I’m no fan of Assad, but the alternative could be worse. We need to stay out of who’s running what country.

      Islamic cultures do not accept the western concept of democracy or republic’s. They exclusively adhere to the Islamic concept of Caliphates, which translates to dictatorships. You will never ever see a long term functional democracy or republic in a Islamic society because the Quran explicitly forbids it. Islamic societies will ALWAYS vote themselves a dictatorship.


    42. 45 | April 11, 2017 5:34 pm

      http://twitchy.com/sd-3133/2017/04/11/eject-eject-eject-sean-spicers-hitler-comparison-goes-south-and-only-gets-worse/

      Looks like Sean stepped in it a bit today. But the LEFT’s deranged screaming, starting with Pelosi and the Anne Frank Center, that this is “Holocaust Denial” is derangement at it’s worst.


    43. eaglesoars
      46 | April 11, 2017 5:37 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      well, there’s Jordan which doesn’t fit either.

      I need food


    44. 47 | April 11, 2017 5:42 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      I had pizza for lunch today and now all I want is a nap.
      Further proof I’m getting old. Pizza was my “all nighter” food in college.


    45. 48 | April 11, 2017 5:46 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ doriangrey:

      well, there’s Jordan which doesn’t fit either.

      I need food

      Jordan is a Monarchy, i.e., a dictatorship. Perhaps symbolically, but a dictatorship none the less.


    46. eaglesoars
      49 | April 11, 2017 5:50 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      Pizza was my “all nighter” food in college.

      you used actual food for an all nighter?

      nevermind


    47. 50 | April 11, 2017 6:13 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      It counterbalanced the re-brewed coffee.


    48. Aussie Infidel
      51 | April 11, 2017 6:16 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ doriangrey:

      well, there’s Jordan which doesn’t fit either.

      I need food

      Jordan is a Monarchy, i.e., a dictatorship. Perhaps symbolically, but a dictatorship none the less.

      And a monarchy supported by a very small minority clan based tribal group (Hashemites) who control by populating the armed forces, police and government ministries. The bulk are restive Palestinians and a few tribal Bedouin malcontents.


    49. Aussie Infidel
      52 | April 11, 2017 6:17 pm

      Still waiting for the Chinese to arrive!

      Grrrrr

      🙂


    50. RIX
      53 | April 11, 2017 6:18 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      It is supreme irony, the Left used to rush to the defense of Russia during the days of the old USSR.
      Now they Absolutel loathe Russia, what changed? Let me see, they are not Communists anymore?

      Russia found its religious mojo and Christian underpinnings again!

      No wonder the Progressive Left hate them now

      the natural truth.


    51. 54 | April 11, 2017 6:19 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      That’s one thing I miss living out in the ‘sticks.
      No Chinese restaurant where I live delivers. It’s pizza or nothing. And Grub Hub isn’t out here yet. Nor Uber Eats.


    52. RIX
      55 | April 11, 2017 6:20 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/10/prominent-democrats-call-for-anti-war-congresswoman-to-be-ousted-from-office/
      @ DailyCaller
      Ok, you can argue the issue, but now they are picking on the best looking person in Congress ever!
      It’s just wrong, amirite?

      Anyone who Howard Dean hates can’t be all that bad!

      She’s a real looker too! What’s she doing in the Democrat party? Most DNC women look like they fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.

      You’re right, she is pretty enough to be a Republican.


    53. Deplorable Idapig
      56 | April 11, 2017 7:37 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      the entire M.E. is not worth ONE DROP of american blood.

      the problem is the war isn’t over until the enemy says it’s over

      we dont have the guts to do what is necessary to win over there.

      the saudis want a pipeline through syria, the iranians want a pipeline through syria. the russians want assad in power so they can keep their naval base and so all of those orthodox chritians in syria’s west dont get massacred. assad is their man, has ben for years.

      so, essentially, we are working for the saudi’s (as usual, nothing new here) for a pipeline to europe. i wonder if tillerson’s boys at exxon or kuchar’s boys at goldman sachs have any $$$ in this?

      so, assad will get replaced, there will total massacre of the christians, just like everywhere else we’ve touche, and then there sill be chaos as the thing shakes out and the real power there will be achmed the terrorist.

      Yeah, pretty much.


    54. rain of lead
      57 | April 11, 2017 7:46 pm

      hey y’all
      how is everyone tonight?


    55. rain of lead
    56. Deplorable Idapig
      60 | April 11, 2017 8:38 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      well damn

      http://www.wcvb.com/article/guitarist-known-as-j-geils-found-dead-in-massachusetts-home/9263211

      That IS a well damn! But I have to say, so far this year is nowhere near as bad as last year for losing those guys!


    57. rain of lead
      61 | April 11, 2017 9:04 pm

      @ Deplorable Idapig

      a sad side effect of getting older is the passing of things from your youth


    58. AZfederalist
      62 | April 11, 2017 10:47 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      Yep, many of those who produced a lot of good memories when I was young are gone now.


    59. Deplorable Idapig
      63 | April 11, 2017 11:55 pm

      @ rain of lead:
      @ AZfederalist:
      Glenn Fry was a tough one for me last year. His was the voice of my youth.


    60. eaglesoars
      64 | April 12, 2017 9:40 am

      Part 4 of the Manhoff archives is now available.

      Artist or Spy?


    61. eaglesoars
      65 | April 12, 2017 10:09 am

      good god. If this is the way she ran her campaign, imagine how she would have run the country (this excerpt is after she lost Michigan to Bernie in the primaries)

      Her aides took the browbeating — one of several she delivered in person and on the phone that day — in silence. They had a lot of their own thoughts on what went wrong, some of which echoed Hillary’s assessment: her message was off for Michigan, and she had refused to go hard against trade; Mook had pinched pennies and failed to put organizers on the ground; the polling and analytics were a touch too rosy, meaning the campaign didn’t know Bernie was ahead; she had set up an ambiguous decisionmaking structure on the campaign; and she’d focused too heavily on black and brown voters at the expense of competing for the whites who had formed her base in 2008. The list went on and on.

      The underlying truth — the one that many didn’t want to admit to themselves — was the person ultimately responsible for these decisions, the one whose name was on the ticket, hadn’t corrected these problems, all of which had been brought to her attention before primary day. She’d stuck with the plan, and it had cost her.

      she kept making that same mistake during the general, she never learned anything


    62. Deplorable Idapig
      66 | April 12, 2017 12:43 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      good god. If this is the way she ran her campaign, imagine how she would have run the country (this excerpt is after she lost Michigan to Bernie in the primaries)

      Her aides took the browbeating — one of several she delivered in person and on the phone that day — in silence. They had a lot of their own thoughts on what went wrong, some of which echoed Hillary’s assessment: her message was off for Michigan, and she had refused to go hard against trade; Mook had pinched pennies and failed to put organizers on the ground; the polling and analytics were a touch too rosy, meaning the campaign didn’t know Bernie was ahead; she had set up an ambiguous decisionmaking structure on the campaign; and she’d focused too heavily on black and brown voters at the expense of competing for the whites who had formed her base in 2008. The list went on and on.

      The underlying truth — the one that many didn’t want to admit to themselves — was the person ultimately responsible for these decisions, the one whose name was on the ticket, hadn’t corrected these problems, all of which had been brought to her attention before primary day. She’d stuck with the plan, and it had cost her.

      she kept making that same mistake during the general, she never learned anything

      I thank God for that!


    63. eaglesoars
      67 | April 12, 2017 1:55 pm

      well, well, well. Watching the Tillerson presser in Moscow. Seems both the U.S. and Russia agree the Norks are to be ‘de-nuclearized’. Wonder if anybody’s told L’il Kim.


    64. lobo91
      68 | April 12, 2017 2:23 pm

      Melania Trump Gets Damages, Apology In Lawsuit Against Daily Mail Over ‘Escort’ Allegation

      The UK’s Daily Mail newspaper has agreed to pay damages and costs to the first lady of the United States over an article about her modelling career.

      The newspaper had reported allegations that Melania Trump once worked as an escort, but later retracted its article.

      The story was published during the US election campaign last year.

      Mrs Trump accepted damages and an apology from the newspaper at London’s High Court.

      She filed her lawsuit in February, seeking damages of $150m (£120m). The amount accepted by Mrs Trump was not disclosed in court. However, reports suggest the payout was closer to $3 million, including legal costs and damages.

      In its apology, the Daily Mail acknowledged it had published “allegations that she provided services beyond simply modelling”. The article also claimed that Mr and Mrs Trump may have met three years before they actually did, and later “staged” their first meeting.

      “We accept that these allegations about Mrs Trump are not true,” the newspaper said.

      A lawyer for Mrs Trump told the London court the allegations “strike at the heart of the claimant’s personal integrity and dignity”.


    65. 69 | April 12, 2017 7:15 pm

      Sous Vide Steak in a ice cooler experiment.

      Hat/tip Calo for giving me the idea to try this.


    66. RIX
      70 | April 12, 2017 8:03 pm

      http://twitchy.com/sd-3133/2017/04/12/report-suspect-in-2010-murder-of-border-patrol-agent-brian-terry-arrested/
      @ Twitchy
      The guy who shot our border agent Brian Terry bias been arrested. Now arrest Obama, Holder, and any ATF
      agent that forced gun dealers to sell to the straw buyers. How many people died because of Fast and Furious guns?


    67. eaglesoars
      71 | April 12, 2017 8:05 pm

      @ RIX:

      WHO arrested him WHERE? If it was the Federales, that would be excellent. Maybe Trump made a deal to give them Holder. That would be fair.


    68. eaglesoars
      72 | April 12, 2017 8:06 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      I like the way the Mongols tenderized their meat. The cut a hunk off, put it under the saddle and bounced on it all day.


    69. Deplorable Idapig
      73 | April 12, 2017 8:38 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      Melania Trump Gets Damages, Apology In Lawsuit Against Daily Mail Over ‘Escort’ Allegation

      The UK’s Daily Mail newspaper has agreed to pay damages and costs to the first lady of the United States over an article about her modelling career.

      The newspaper had reported allegations that Melania Trump once worked as an escort, but later retracted its article.

      The story was published during the US election campaign last year.

      Mrs Trump accepted damages and an apology from the newspaper at London’s High Court.

      She filed her lawsuit in February, seeking damages of $150m (£120m). The amount accepted by Mrs Trump was not disclosed in court. However, reports suggest the payout was closer to $3 million, including legal costs and damages.

      In its apology, the Daily Mail acknowledged it had published “allegations that she provided services beyond simply modelling”. The article also claimed that Mr and Mrs Trump may have met three years before they actually did, and later “staged” their first meeting.

      “We accept that these allegations about Mrs Trump are not true,” the newspaper said.

      A lawyer for Mrs Trump told the London court the allegations “strike at the heart of the claimant’s personal integrity and dignity”.

      Libel laws are much easier to prosecute over there than they are here. And loser pays. They have some laws over there that are definitely better than ours. This is a BIG one to me!


    70. Aussie Infidel
      74 | April 12, 2017 8:47 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ doriangrey:

      I like the way the Mongols tenderized their meat. The cut a hunk off, put it under the saddle and bounced on it all day.

      … because there are no trees to whack hunks of meat against. I tend to go for the rock and the slab of grant method myself!

      🙂

      It certainly works a treat with a VERY fresh snake as a means of tenderising it ready for dinner.

      🙂


    71. Aussie Infidel
      75 | April 12, 2017 8:49 pm

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      lobo91 wrote:

      Melania Trump Gets Damages, Apology In Lawsuit Against Daily Mail Over ‘Escort’ Allegation

      The UK’s Daily Mail newspaper has agreed to pay damages and costs to the first lady of the United States over an article about her modelling career.

      The newspaper had reported allegations that Melania Trump once worked as an escort, but later retracted its article.

      The story was published during the US election campaign last year.

      Mrs Trump accepted damages and an apology from the newspaper at London’s High Court.

      She filed her lawsuit in February, seeking damages of $150m (£120m). The amount accepted by Mrs Trump was not disclosed in court. However, reports suggest the payout was closer to $3 million, including legal costs and damages.

      In its apology, the Daily Mail acknowledged it had published “allegations that she provided services beyond simply modelling”. The article also claimed that Mr and Mrs Trump may have met three years before they actually did, and later “staged” their first meeting.

      “We accept that these allegations about Mrs Trump are not true,” the newspaper said.

      A lawyer for Mrs Trump told the London court the allegations “strike at the heart of the claimant’s personal integrity and dignity”.

      Libel laws are much easier to prosecute over there than they are here. And loser pays. They have some laws over there that are definitely better than ours. This is a BIG one to me!

      Without a First Amendment the UK, Australian and NZ libel laws are a lawyer’s playground and a source of unending $$$$$$$


    72. RIX
      76 | April 12, 2017 8:56 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ RIX:

      WHO arrested him WHERE? If it was the Federales, that would be excellent. Maybe Trump made a deal to give them Holder. That would be fair.

      It appears that it was a US / Mexican operation. If we want him tried here we would probably have to waive the death
      penalty.


    73. eaglesoars
      77 | April 12, 2017 9:05 pm

      RIX wrote:

      If we want him tried here we would probably have to waive the death
      penalty.

      oh, I would JUMP at waiving it if it meant Holder spent the rest of his life in Mexican jails.


    74. eaglesoars
      78 | April 12, 2017 9:08 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Without a First Amendment the UK, Australian and NZ libel laws are a lawyer’s playground and a source of unending $$$$$$$

      There was a fairly well known case in the UK when an American woman wrote about a UK Holocaust denier – well known guy, can’t remember his name – and he sued her. He expected her to cave as the laws there are so generous but she fought – and WON. Then she wrote a really good book about it. And the reason I can tell I’m getting old is that I can’t remember his name, her name or the name of the book.

      Trifecta!


    75. RIX
      79 | April 12, 2017 9:08 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      If we want him tried here we would probably have to waive the death
      penalty.

      oh, I would JUMP at waiving it if it meant Holder spent the rest of his life in Mexican jails.

      It would be a great thing.Holder was one of the worst vipers in a den of vipers.


    76. eaglesoars
      80 | April 12, 2017 9:19 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      remember his name, her name or the name of the book.

      David Irving, Deborah Lipstadt, “Denying the Holocaust”

      Thank you wiki


    77. eaglesoars
      81 | April 12, 2017 9:29 pm

      Holy crap! It’s a good thing we can’t do that here, we’d never get anything done

      Swedish citizens are now filing criminal charges vs the government for involuntary manslaughter through negligence


    78. Aussie Infidel
      82 | April 12, 2017 10:03 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:

      remember his name, her name or the name of the book.

      David Irving, Deborah Lipstadt, “Denying the Holocaust”

      Thank you wiki

      But it cost both sides about 1/4 million Pounds each to go to trial. I’m not sure whether Deborah got court costs awarded but in any trial the ply winner is the jurists. They ALWAYS get paid. Hence the only half joked saying that on the first day of the revolution all the jurists die.

      🙂

      Hell I’m suffering myself a miscarriage of natural justice. Last week we settled on a property and we were tardy in getting a government form completed by the bureaucracy. It was the lawyer’s job to ensure that she had all of the ducks lined up in a row. That’s why I paid her the big bucks to ensure that the title transfer and payment were OK. Due to the lawyer’s tardiness….. she only works 2 days a week because of family commitments and she was late in allowing government more time than the standard 2 working days. The deadline for the transfer was breached and I got stung a $460 penalty. Yet because of the lawyers clockup I got stung.


    79. eaglesoars
      83 | April 12, 2017 10:15 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Yet because of the lawyers clockup I got stung.

      The lawyer won’t cover that for you? She should, as a matter of professional responsibility.

      I’m not sure whether Deborah got court costs awarded

      looks like it

      He was also liable to pay all of the substantial costs of the trial, which ruined him financially and forced him into bankruptcy in 2002.[68]

      I’m missing something again. Everybody seems to be running around like headless chickens afraid Trump has provoked war with Russia. What is it he’s supposed to have done, besides call Putin out on his responsibility for the misbehavior of his client state, Syria? I know Putin is saying there’s no evidence, but with the evidence the Pentagon HAS produced, Syrian responsibility is not out of the realm of the believable. And what sort of nails it for me is that Gen’l. Mattis ABSOLUTELY believes it.

      The NORKS are saying they’re going to launch more missiles. I’m wondering if Trump blows them up on the pad.

      Fun times.


    80. 84 | April 12, 2017 10:19 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      I’m wondering if Trump blows them up on the pad.

      Fun times.

      Might be time to pull that 747 with the 100 M/w laser mounted in its nose out of mothballs.


    81. eaglesoars
      85 | April 12, 2017 10:26 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      Might be time to pull that 747 with the 100 M/w laser mounted in its nose out of mothballs.

      we have toys like that? I didn’t know we have toys like that!


    82. eaglesoars
      86 | April 12, 2017 10:39 pm

      um……….

      Pyongyang

      Reports in Russian newspaper Pravda Report claim more than 600,000 people – around 25 per cent of the city’s population – are being urgently evacuated, as tensions escalate between North Korea and the United States.

      According to South Korean media, residents in the kingdom have said goodbye to each other, sparking concerns the tyrannical leader could be about to act after months of nuclear weapon testing.

      Foreign reporters have been told to prepare for a “big and important event” on North Korea’s biggest national celebration, called ‘Day of the Sun’.

      I thought Xi just told this little shit to knock it off? What’s the over/under on a convenient assassination?


    83. 87 | April 12, 2017 10:41 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      doriangrey wrote:

      Might be time to pull that 747 with the 100 M/w laser mounted in its nose out of mothballs.

      we have toys like that? I didn’t know we have toys like that!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIbPpiSdHz8


    84. eaglesoars
      88 | April 12, 2017 10:50 pm

      I watched the next vid too. couldn’t tell very much, don’t know what ‘accurate but not real time’ means. But, I’m assuming it works.


    85. eaglesoars
      89 | April 12, 2017 10:54 pm

      In a striking development involving the rapidly changing North Korean geopolitical situation, moments ago Voice of America reporter Steve Herman stated that according to US government and other sources, North Korea has “apparently placed a nuclear device in a tunnel and it could be detonated Saturday AM Korea time.


    86. Deplorable Idapig
      90 | April 12, 2017 11:17 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Without a First Amendment the UK, Australian and NZ libel laws are a lawyer’s playground and a source of unending $$$$$$$

      Yeah, but the 1st has been abused terribly here by the press. You can’t prove malice (in the legal sense) against them and they get to print whatever they want. They’re masters of character assassination and all they have to do is print a teeny retraction on page 42B to protect themselves legally. But the damage to a person’s reputation is pretty much permanent.


    87. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      91 | April 12, 2017 11:23 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      Sous Vide Steak in a ice cooler experiment.

      Hat/tip Calo for giving me the idea to try this.

      I wonder. I have a small cooler for my car that plugs in and refrigerates or warms I should get a new replacement plug for it (ac, not car) and see what temp it gets to. It could be the perfect cheap sous vide device.


    88. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      92 | April 12, 2017 11:26 pm

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      doriangrey wrote:

      Sous Vide Steak in a ice cooler experiment.

      Hat/tip Calo for giving me the idea to try this.

      I wonder. I have a small cooler for my car that plugs in and refrigerates or warms I should get a new replacement plug for it (ac, not car) and see what temp it gets to. It could be the perfect cheap sous vide device.

      Looks like it will be right around 149. The water might alter that though. So, it should be in the right temperature area. I have got to try this experiment.


    89. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      93 | April 12, 2017 11:27 pm

      And I can do it one step better than ziplocks, I have a vacuum sealer


    90. eaglesoars
      94 | April 12, 2017 11:30 pm

      @ Deplorable Idapig:

      was it WaPo or NYT that printed those stories about McCain having an affair w/a woman who they named, she sued and they settled? I don’t remember if they printed a retraction or not


    91. eaglesoars
      95 | April 12, 2017 11:32 pm

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      I have a vacuum sealer

      one of the great inventions of western civilization. Right after paper towels


    92. eaglesoars
      96 | April 12, 2017 11:43 pm

      bedtime. nite.


    93. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      97 | April 12, 2017 11:50 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      I have a vacuum sealer

      one of the great inventions of western civilization. Right after paper towels

      Yep, just that the bags are usually so expensive, but I’ve scored some good deals at yard sales the last couple years.


    94. AZfederalist
      98 | April 12, 2017 11:55 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      we have toys like that? I didn’t know we have toys like that!

      Unfortunately, no. The ABL wasn’t just mothballed, its various parts have been scattered to the 4 winds.


    95. AZfederalist
      99 | April 12, 2017 11:58 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      I watched the next vid too. couldn’t tell very much, don’t know what ‘accurate but not real time’ means. But, I’m assuming it works.

      Video was deliberately downsampled to prevent anyone from being able to derive engagement times.


    96. 100 | April 13, 2017 12:19 am

      AZfederalist wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:

      we have toys like that? I didn’t know we have toys like that!

      Unfortunately, no. The ABL wasn’t just mothballed, its various parts have been scattered to the 4 winds.

      Yea, but you know that they know where every single part is, and can put it back together in a matter of days if they wanted to.


    97. Aussie Infidel
      101 | April 13, 2017 1:30 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      doriangrey wrote:

      Might be time to pull that 747 with the 100 M/w laser mounted in its nose out of mothballs.

      we have toys like that? I didn’t know we have toys like that!

      Oh Yeah!Believe it! The 747 was specifically set up to melt the missile’s nose come during the launch phase once the 1st Stage had burned out, then …. Crackle Crackle Kablooooooy

      That’s techie talk!

      HEH!
      🙂


    98. Aussie Infidel
      102 | April 13, 2017 1:42 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      doriangrey wrote:

      Might be time to pull that 747 with the 100 M/w laser mounted in its nose out of mothballs.

      we have toys like that? I didn’t know we have toys like that!

      The B-747 is now retired and they have been busy little squirrels building a smaller stealther higher flying (65,000 feet) unmanned version with the same Mega-watt power output that burns through the skin of a ballistic missile in a much faster time. Instead of trying to shoot down a missile from thousands of miles away the new one can get up closer (hundreds of miles) and higher and knock missiles down in just a few seconds.


    99. 103 | April 13, 2017 10:10 am

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      Pretty sure we already used it against Lil Kim… At least twice


    100. eaglesoars
      104 | April 13, 2017 1:20 pm

      We just dropped a MOAB in eastern Afghanistan – I think on some kind of communication network


    101. 105 | April 13, 2017 1:46 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      We just dropped a MOAB in eastern Afghanistan – I think on some kind of communication network

      Ouch… that is going to leave one hell of a bruise…


    102. eaglesoars
      106 | April 13, 2017 1:48 pm

      watching spicer presser – surprisingly few ? about the bomb – spicer said target was cave complex used by ISIS

      how many of these things do we have? I remember we dropped one in the beginning and I thought it was one of 2.

      just wondering – NORKs nuclear sites are tunnels, yes? And these things were designed to blow up tunnels and caves? just a thought.


    103. 107 | April 13, 2017 2:07 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      how many of these things do we have?

      We are reputed to have had 20 of them prior to today. At $16 million each, we could made quiet a few if we so chose.


    104. Deplorable Idapig
      109 | April 13, 2017 2:22 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      We just dropped a MOAB in eastern Afghanistan – I think on some kind of communication network

      I heard it was on their tunnels – which would make sense. You don’t need to drop a 10 1/2 ton hunk of metal on a radio tower.

      But I believe this thing was created to dig deep and blow up those iranian nuclear bunkers.


    105. Deplorable Idapig
      110 | April 13, 2017 2:23 pm

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:

      We just dropped a MOAB in eastern Afghanistan – I think on some kind of communication network

      I heard it was on their tunnels – which would make sense. You don’t need to drop a 10 1/2 ton hunk of metal on a radio tower.

      But I believe this thing was created to dig deep and blow up those iranian nuclear bunkers.

      I know it’s wrong of me, but I’m glad we finally used one. Need to remind the world WHY they shouldn’t fuck with us!


    106. eaglesoars
      111 | April 13, 2017 2:29 pm

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      I know it’s wrong of me

      I have no idea where that comes from.

      Some wag just said the Dems are going to be pissed because Trump probably killed a bunch of potential illegal Dem voters.


    107. eaglesoars
      112 | April 13, 2017 2:30 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      Ouch… that is going to leave one hell of a bruise…

      I’m looking for my sympathy meter. I think I lost it w/all my weapons when that boat capsized.


    108. Deplorable Idapig
      113 | April 13, 2017 2:39 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Deplorable Idapig wrote:

      I know it’s wrong of me

      I have no idea where that comes from.

      Some wag just said the Dems are going to be pissed because Trump probably killed a bunch of potential illegal Dem voters.

      I love it when our military blows crap up – and I don’t care who is inside. That’s what I mean by that. I’m THAT angry with those demonic bastards.

      In other news, the Air Force just turned an F-16 into a drone.


    109. Deplorable Idapig
      114 | April 13, 2017 2:43 pm

      IMHO, this war has been going on 15 years TOO long! We could have ground them into fine dust ages ago and I’m heartsick at all the lives (OUR military lives) we’ve lost because of fucking politics!


    110. eaglesoars
      115 | April 13, 2017 2:48 pm

      Trump is up. He’s not giving specifics, but it’s really nice to hear a POTUS praise our military instead of gutting it


    111. eaglesoars
      116 | April 13, 2017 2:50 pm

      Top U.S. Imam Plans Massive PR Campaign: “Islam For All”…

      I fear his timing doth sucketh……………


    112. coldwarrior
      117 | April 13, 2017 3:03 pm

      new thread


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