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  • Econ Data and The Fed’s Dual Mandate

    by coldwarrior ( 126 Comments › )
    Filed under Economy, Open thread at April 19th, 2017 - 6:05 pm

    …To provide for full employment AND price stability…two mutually exclusive goals set by Congress, of course.

    U.S. economic growth was “evenly split” between modest to moderate activity between mid-February and the end of March as labor markets across the Federal Reserve’s 12 districts remained “tight,” the central bank said on Wednesday.

    In its anecdotal Beige Book report, the Fed noted the pickup in economic activity varied across certain regions as manufacturing held steady though freight shipments slowed, non-residential construction remained strong and energy-related businesses continued to improve.

    Though tourism and travel generally showed a pick up during the reporting period, consumer spending fluctuated district by district amid strong vehicle sales but soft spending levels in other retail areas. The data jive with recent government reports that indicate retail sales have slowed from lofty levels in the first part of the year, but are somewhat conflicted with sentiment data that continue to show Americans remain, on average, upbeat about their economic prospects and feeling optimistic about their spending power.

    As prices across the Fed’s districts rose modestly, employment expanded, indicating the labor market remains tight despite data that showed U.S. hiring in March hit its slowest pace in ten months while the unemployment rate unexpectedly dropped. Consistent with a tighter labor market, the Fed noted a larger number of firms reported they had more difficulty finding qualified workers and faced increased labor costs. They also forecasted labor demand to rise over the next six months alongside modest wage growth.

    As it continues to eye two more rate rises before the end of the year, the Fed has paid close attention to continued tightening in the labor market and higher levels of inflation – components of its dual mandate from Congress. Though the labor market has made further progress toward the central bank’s goal, inflation continues to run below the 2% target. In February, the Labor Department said its core personal consumption expenditures index – the Fed’s preferred measure of inflation that strips out volatile food and energy prices – rose 1.8% on a year over year basis.

    The retail downturn happens every year in the Q2 because everyone has spent their ‘tax return’in Q1 ; which in and of itself is a false economy.

    Wages have not gone up since Clinton, ain’t NAFTA and GATT GREAT!!! Love those cheap imports, huh?

    Trump’s policies are already working to create real wealth again. Upward wage pressure means more demand for labor, some inflation means demand for goods and services…the velocity of money may be lifting off form the ZERO that it has been at since Bush.

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    126 Responses to “Econ Data and The Fed’s Dual Mandate”
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    1. rain of lead
      1 | April 19, 2017 6:19 pm

      and Tucker Carlson takes the spot for the win

      http://www.weaselzippers.us/335051-breaking-bill-oreilly-leaves-fox-news-amid-sexual-harassment-scandal/


    2. eaglesoars
      2 | April 19, 2017 6:22 pm

      employment expanded, indicating the labor market remains tight despite data that showed U.S. hiring in March hit its slowest pace in ten months while the unemployment rate unexpectedly dropped

      what is the word ‘unexpectedly’ doing there? If the labor mkt is tight, wouldn’t you expect it to drop? The hiring may have slowed but doesn’t that also reflect a tight labor mkt?

      I’m missing something again, aren’t I?


    3. coldwarrior
      4 | April 19, 2017 6:25 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      what is the word ‘unexpectedly’ doing there?

      there has been wayyyy too much of that word from these economists.


    4. coldwarrior
      5 | April 19, 2017 6:29 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      and Tucker Carlson takes the spot for the win

      http://www.weaselzippers.us/335051-breaking-bill-oreilly-leaves-fox-news-amid-sexual-harassment-scandal/

      is that good or bad, i havent seen fsn in months


    5. eaglesoars
      6 | April 19, 2017 7:24 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      Tucker is superb!


    6. 7 | April 19, 2017 7:37 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      That seems to be a problem at regular hospitals too. Patient care slips to save money. A co worker and my ex g/f are nurses. The co worker left the medical field because of that problem.

      i work in two hospitals, one is in a pretty bad area, lots of white trash / welfare / heroin etc.

      one is in n upscale, upper middle suburb.

      there is cost cutting at the poor hospital because no one pays their bill and its all obamacare

      there is no cost cutting at the wealthy hospital because everyone pays their bill and almost no one is on obamacare.

      you get waht you pay for

      @ coldwarrior:
      She worked at a heart hospital. Instead of having someone watching monitors they just relied on the alarms, and would turn those down if things got distracting.

      And when people’s lives are on the line, I don’t think it’s right cutting corners no matter what.


    7. Deplorable Bumr50
      8 | April 19, 2017 9:16 pm

      Sh*t. Missed the new thread alert.

      McMullin owes nearly $670,000 for his failed presidential bid

      Washington • Evan McMullin ran a long-shot — and ultimately failed — campaign last year to deny Donald Trump enough Electoral College votes to keep him from the presidency, but now the Utah native faces a hefty bill that will be challenging to pay off and could hamper efforts to enter the political arena again.

      McMullin, who jumped into the presidential race a few months before Election Day, still owes some $670,000 to vendors who helped his campaign, including more than half a million dollars to a law firm.

      Presidential candidates who didn’t win the White House often face a large tab when the dust clears — it took Hillary Clinton four years to pay off millions in debt from her 2008 campaign — but for McMullin, who as an independent has no party apparatus to help, the bills are daunting.

      And vendors are worried they might get stiffed.

      “From what I know, they do not have any capability or plans to pay all the vendors they still owe money,” says Tanner Leatham, owner and CEO of Utah-based Gathering Inc., which solicited signatures to get McMullin on the ballot in five states and is still owed more than $10,000. “They have told me they cannot pay us what they owe.”

      Leatham adds that for a small, startup firm, unpaid bills sting even more.

      McMullin’s latest filing with the Federal Election Commission shows six companies with outstanding bills, the largest of which is the Florida-based law firm Hopping, Green & Sams, which is owed nearly $520,000. The firm declined to comment on the bills.

      What?

      Bill Kristol’s not paying this??

      🙂


    8. Deplorable Bumr50
      9 | April 19, 2017 9:20 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      is that good or bad, i havent seen fsn in months

      I haven’t either.

      I’ve been wondering how the local news affiliates have been doing, since they’re pretty much just just anti-Trump screeds now too.

      Did you see Bill Peduto’s commercial?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uJB01Z4rH0

      I hope the New England Patriots sue his campaign to smithereens.


    9. Deplorable Bumr50
      10 | April 19, 2017 9:22 pm

      Trump’s policies are already working to create real wealth again. Upward wage pressure means more demand for labor, some inflation means demand for goods and services…the velocity of money may be lifting off form the ZERO that it has been at since Bush.

      Can’t wait until wages recover.

      Going to be a little bit.

      I’m patient.


    10. eaglesoars
      11 | April 19, 2017 9:46 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      Bill Kristol’s not paying this??

      Don’t know if you saw my post downstairs, but Jason Chaffitz has announced he won’t run again in 2018. That leaves an opening for McMuffin.


    11. Deplorable Bumr50
      12 | April 19, 2017 9:52 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Utah politics is seriously whacked.

      The official Mormon statement on Trump’s immigration policy during the campaign, basically saying that what will happen with Islam is what COULD happen with Mormonism was positively ludicrous.

      And I’m almost positive that has something to do with everything that comes out of Salt Lake City.

      I REALLY hate to bring religion into it, but I have no other explanation for the “Utah anomaly,” if you will.


    12. Deplorable Bumr50
      13 | April 19, 2017 10:02 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      That leaves an opening for McMuffin.

      “Hi, I’m Egg McMuffin – the guy that wanted Hillary Rodham Clinton to be President.”

      How does he win that election?

      I’ve seen rumblings that Chaffetz wants to be Governor of Utah.


    13. eaglesoars
      14 | April 19, 2017 10:09 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      And I’m almost positive that has something to do with everything that comes out of Salt Lake City.

      I remember seeing a funny bit about the Queen taking over as we are incapable of electing serious people. All the states except North Dakota and Utah. Also, she just had to know who killed JFK, it’s been driving them nuts.


    14. eaglesoars
      15 | April 19, 2017 10:13 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      How does he win that election?

      He’s a whore who thinks he has the right pimps. Forgetting that Kristol floated David French in all seriousness. Remember these are the people who have a SEKRET cabal called RESTART! that calls Trump evil in their manifesto (yes, they have one). They are the Templar Knights in service of virtue and the one true Way.

      It’s serious kool-aid and they’ve been mainlining it.


    15. eaglesoars
      16 | April 19, 2017 10:15 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      I’ve seen rumblings that Chaffetz wants to be Governor of Utah.

      That must be what he was referring to when he said he wasn’t running for ANY office in 2018. Which, of course, leaves 2020 wide open and a lot of time to fund raise. Altho I did hear that his last opponent out-raised him 3-1 the last time.


    16. AZfederalist
      17 | April 19, 2017 10:39 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      what is the word ‘unexpectedly’ doing there? If the labor mkt is tight, wouldn’t you expect it to drop? The hiring may have slowed but doesn’t that also reflect a tight labor mkt?

      I’m missing something again, aren’t I?

      Like the fact that the main stream media in no way will give Trump any credit for an improving economy? Who you gonna believe, the MSM or your lyin’ eyes?


    17. AZfederalist
      18 | April 19, 2017 10:42 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      there has been wayyyy too much of that word from these economists.

      You’d think that if economists were actually worth something, the words, “as expected” would be in more stories. As it is, meteorologists have a better record.


    18. eaglesoars
      19 | April 19, 2017 10:44 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      that wasn’t the MSM. That was THE Beige Book. Sometimes I think they write this stuff when they’re really tired after putting all those numbers and tables together. Seriously. I’ve had to ask for help from these guys on more than one occasion and I’m a nobody – not a staffer or anything – and they could not be nicer in helping me find stuff and explaining things. Even when the answer is “It’s a technical term for ‘scientific wild ass guess’ ” or “That’s because the raw data really sucks”.


    19. 20 | April 19, 2017 10:52 pm

      @ AZfederalist:
      @ eaglesoars:

      Economics… The ONLY area of Academics still standing, where its practitioners throw chicken entrails at the wall, and then claim to have come to a scientific conclusion.


    20. AZfederalist
      21 | April 19, 2017 11:04 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      OK, I’ll defer my opinion on this.


    21. eaglesoars
      22 | April 19, 2017 11:05 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      that’s what happens when you try to model human behavior in a bunch of equations.

      bed t ime. nite.


    22. Deplorable Idapig
      23 | April 19, 2017 11:09 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      Sh*t. Missed the new thread alert.

      McMullin owes nearly $670,000 for his failed presidential bid

      Washington • Evan McMullin ran a long-shot — and ultimately failed — campaign last year to deny Donald Trump enough Electoral College votes to keep him from the presidency, but now the Utah native faces a hefty bill that will be challenging to pay off and could hamper efforts to enter the political arena again.

      McMullin, who jumped into the presidential race a few months before Election Day, still owes some $670,000 to vendors who helped his campaign, including more than half a million dollars to a law firm.

      Presidential candidates who didn’t win the White House often face a large tab when the dust clears — it took Hillary Clinton four years to pay off millions in debt from her 2008 campaign — but for McMullin, who as an independent has no party apparatus to help, the bills are daunting.

      And vendors are worried they might get stiffed.

      “From what I know, they do not have any capability or plans to pay all the vendors they still owe money,” says Tanner Leatham, owner and CEO of Utah-based Gathering Inc., which solicited signatures to get McMullin on the ballot in five states and is still owed more than $10,000. “They have told me they cannot pay us what they owe.”

      Leatham adds that for a small, startup firm, unpaid bills sting even more.

      McMullin’s latest filing with the Federal Election Commission shows six companies with outstanding bills, the largest of which is the Florida-based law firm Hopping, Green & Sams, which is owed nearly $520,000. The firm declined to comment on the bills.

      What?

      Bill Kristol’s not paying this??

      As far as I’m concerned they deserve what they get. They played along to be spoilers for Donald Trump – they failed. Now they have to eat it.


    23. lobo91
      24 | April 19, 2017 11:31 pm

      @ Deplorable Idapig:

      I answered your question near the bottom of the previous thread


    24. coldwarrior
      25 | April 20, 2017 7:59 am

      doriangrey wrote:

      @ AZfederalist:
      @ eaglesoars:

      Economics… The ONLY area of Academics still standing, where its practitioners throw chicken entrails at the wall, and then claim to have come to a scientific conclusion.

      its like the climatologists…politics has become the main input into the data, the skewing starts then.

      the guys who work for private firms get it right or perish. they are pretty good.


    25. 26 | April 20, 2017 9:41 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      doriangrey wrote:

      @ AZfederalist:
      @ eaglesoars:

      Economics… The ONLY area of Academics still standing, where its practitioners throw chicken entrails at the wall, and then claim to have come to a scientific conclusion.

      its like the climatologists…politics has become the main input into the data, the skewing starts then.

      the guys who work for private firms get it right or perish. they are pretty good.

      ROTFLMAO… Hey mon, don’t be lookin all irie at me, you da one who told me dat mon…


    26. 27 | April 20, 2017 9:46 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      It will be interesting what Utah does with the Tasty Breakfast Sandwich. He’s pretty much acted like an asshat since the election.


    27. coldwarrior
      28 | April 20, 2017 9:48 am

      hey aussie! yer friends are coming to dinner!


    28. coldwarrior
      29 | April 20, 2017 9:53 am

      doriangrey wrote:

      ROTFLMAO… Hey mon, don’t be lookin all irie at me, you da one who told me dat mon…

      RAS TAFARI!!!


    29. coldwarrior
      30 | April 20, 2017 9:58 am

      down to da salt mines with me!

      aye mon!


    30. 31 | April 20, 2017 10:41 am

      Wistful sigh….

      When the weather gets nice here in California, I am reminded how much I really, really miss having my dog…..

      Sorry to be Debbie Downer – just looked out my office window and saw someone running with their Sheltie around the Lake…..


    31. RIX
      32 | April 20, 2017 1:31 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      Bob Marley! Bob plant his seed all overdue island mon.


    32. Aussie Infidel
      33 | April 20, 2017 5:38 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      hey aussie! yer friends are coming to dinner!

      Yup. There was a ‘run’ on trench coats in Arrowtown yesterday and the Shotover River jet boats have classified their river run schedules!

      🙂

      Guys in trilbies have been seen pushing each other off the Shotover River bridge. Some were even tied onto bungy cords at the time.

      There are shifty types, all called Hank, wearing shade, standing around Queenstown corners with a finger in their ear and some have been seen talking animatedly into their sleeves, but you never know. They might just be guys waiting for high priced ‘hookers’ who have invaded the deep south in droves over the past few days!
      Someone named Combover, Combme, Combtree or something was seen denying that he ever headed headed a federal agency. The only federal agency in Queenstown is the local FedEx office. Maybe he was a former export manager, on the lamb, after the failed attempt to ship frozen sheep meat to the US market.

      There was someone named Clappedout, or whatever, here last year. He parked his aeroplane in the Royal NZ Air Force parking area at the airport. Probably got ‘wheel clamped’ or towed and he hasn’t been seen here since 2016.

      There have been reports about 3 guys acting suspiciously down at the Queenstown Wharf. One has apparently lost an eye, as they have been called the Five Eyes.
      HEH !

      🙂

      Still no sign of Bater-Ginsberg in Glenfield, an Auckland Suburb. She was quite adamant that she was moving into the Glenfield Green Acres Rest Home for washed up jurists. Perhaps she just took a side trip first to Canada to visit with all of the miffed hollywood actors, now allegedly living in the great white north.

      🙂

      We will keep our eyes open for Ruthie at the local Glenfield mall TAB betting shop . Especially on Thursday afternoons. Pension Day!

      🙂


    33. Aussie Infidel
      34 | April 20, 2017 7:12 pm

      Of totally FAKE NEWS from the MSM that is not only fake but also incredibly dangerous in a highly polarised world.

      The MSM again pushed a WWIII scenario as ‘click bait’ that kept the plebs on the edge of their seats for a week.

      There was NO major US Naval concentration off North Korea. The USS Ronald Reagan Carrier Strike Group was not off the South coast of North Korea in the Sea of Japan. It was tied up alongside in Yokosuka Japan. Anyone with a window facing the harbour in Yokosuka could have confirmed that fact. The USS Carl Vinson CSG wasn’t preparing to take our North Korean artillery. It was in fact heading south for the Australian hosted and long scheduled multi-national exercise. The CVN-71 Theodore Roosevelt wasn’t steaming at 30 knots towards a ‘rendezvous with destany’ in the Sea of Japan. It was engaged in normal tailored ship’s training just over the horizon off San Diego. The fact that the Roosevelt was NOT part of a Carrier Strike Group might have been a dead give away for the MSM. But no !

      The corrupt MSM were engaged in a click-bait scare campaign to sell newspapersparrot cage liners, to ignorant plebs. It was more Fake News and click-bait folks.

      The story was not the US navy’s run up to WWII. It was more about the MSM pushing Fake News to sell papers. Not only amoral but bloody dangerous in a divided world.

      SPIT

      Here is what the real situation was:-

      http://thedailyintrep.com/of-fake-news-in-the-msm-actual-major-us-naval-groups-as-at-20-april-2017/#more-3252


    34. 35 | April 20, 2017 7:21 pm

      I know he’s not our favorite around here, but THIS might prove to be GREAT FUN

      Wonder if Obama is checking to see how far you have to be in international waters to avoid arrest. Those rich guys may NEVER get their yachts back.


    35. Aussie Infidel
      36 | April 20, 2017 7:25 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:
      There is a very hush hush golf game in Queenstown today. Maybe Obama is keeping a low profile and acting as a caddy for the gathered spooks.

      🙂


    36. RIX
      37 | April 20, 2017 7:54 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      I know he’s not our favorite around here, but THIS might prove to be GREAT FUN

      BREAKING

      Mark Levin announces filing with FISA Court to investigate Obama Administration.

      Source: https://t.co/VRA0tkqb4I

      — Mark Romano (@TheMarkRomano) April 20, 2017

      Wonder if Obama is checking to see how far you have to be in international waters to avoid arrest. Those rich guys may NEVER get their yachts back.

      I am not a big fan of Mark Levin. I tried to listen to him driving home from the airport last night, and he was off the rails..I do not doubt that he is a smart guy, but he sounds unhinged. Several years ago I read his book “Saving Sprite”. He sounded like a nut.
      However he is a gutsy guy, and I think that he is 100% right here.


    37. eaglesoars
      38 | April 20, 2017 8:28 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      The story was not the US navy’s run up to WWII. It was more about the MSM pushing Fake News to sell papers. Not only amoral but bloody dangerous in a divided world.

      The National Zoo introduced it’s newest addition to the lion pride the other day, a gorgeous male from Africa. Unfortunately, as children do, a little girl got into the enclosure and he grabbed her. A man managed to get in a scare the cat off. WaPo interviewed him, turned out he’s active Marine getting ready to return to Afghanistan for his umpteenth tour. Headline in WaPo

      MARINE ASSAULTS AFRICAN IMMIGRANT, STEALS HIS LUNCH


    38. eaglesoars
      39 | April 20, 2017 8:30 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      I know he’s not our favorite around here, but THIS might prove to be GREAT FUN

      Wonder if Obama is checking to see how far you have to be in international waters to avoid arrest. Those rich guys may NEVER get their yachts back.

      he’s gonna have to get in line. Carter Page is suing, Judicial Watch is suing, everybody is suing.


    39. eaglesoars
      40 | April 20, 2017 8:38 pm

      Apropo of nothing. Mascara Wands. Yeah, guys listen up too, your ladies probably use it.

      Save a squirrel (or something), clean the wands and send them to Appalachian Wildlife Rescue.


    40. Aussie Infidel
      41 | April 20, 2017 9:09 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      The story was not the US navy’s run up to WWII. It was more about the MSM pushing Fake News to sell papers. Not only amoral but bloody dangerous in a divided world.

      The National Zoo introduced it’s newest addition to the lion pride the other day, a gorgeous male from Africa. Unfortunately, as children do, a little girl got into the enclosure and he grabbed her. A man managed to get in a scare the cat off. WaPo interviewed him, turned out he’s active Marine getting ready to return to Afghanistan for his umpteenth tour. Headline in WaPo

      MARINE ASSAULTS AFRICAN IMMIGRANT, STEALS HIS LUNCH

      I’m going to steal that!

      HEH!

      🙂


    41. Aussie Infidel
      42 | April 20, 2017 9:13 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Did you read the story I write at … thedailyintrep.com
      regarding the False News about the USN deployments around NK?


    42. eaglesoars
      43 | April 20, 2017 9:27 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      thedailyintrep.com

      yes. but I still don’t understand what happened. the MSM are playing it as tho the White House doesnt know where the effing navy is and giving out bad info


    43. eaglesoars
      44 | April 20, 2017 10:43 pm

      What the fuck??

      Early in the morning of April 20th we poured concrete on the train tracks that lead out of the Port of Olympia to block any trains from using the tracks. We took precautions to notify BNSF (the train company) – we called them and we used wires to send a signal that the tracks were blocked. We did this not to avoid damaging a train, nothing would bring bigger grins to our faces, but to avoid the risk of injuring railway workers.

      This action was done to disrupt the movement of trains carrying proppants used in natural gas fracturing. These train tracks are part of a system of pipelines, fracking wells, mines, clearcuts, control centers, fiberoptics, dams, highways and factories that cover the planet and are physical manifestations of a process that is destroying the ecosystems, cultures, and inhabitants everywhere. Behind this network of infrastructure there are politicians, CEOs and bureaucrats who have private security, cops, prison guards, non-profit directors, PR consultants and the legacy of 500 years of colonization to back them up. We oppose all of these manifestations, infrastructural, personal and ideological. We blocked the train tracks because we want to blockade the entire web of domination that is slowly killing us.

      We were inspired to take this action by acts of resistance taking place across turtle island and the world, particularly the fierce indigenous resistance of water protectors against the Dakota Access Pipe Line, the encampment blocking a train full of fracking material on these same tracks in Olympia this past November, and the clandestine attacks against pipelines in Florida, South Dakota and Iowa.

      We also were emboldened by the spirit of all those who have risen against the white supremacist police in Furguson, Baltimore, Oakland and elsewhere, as well as by the riotous opposition that has characterized the first few months of Donald Trump’s reign.

      Resistance to this many-tendriled death machine has and must take many forms. Some have set their goals narrow and try just to stop the port from shipping proppants. We are aiming beyond, for a liberation that destroys all vestiges of oppression and colonization leaving us free to experiment with ways of living in cooperation on our own terms. We want to unlearn the legacies of domination that we have inherited. We need a diverse and vibrant resistance composed of more forms of destruction, mutual aid and solidarity than we can yet imagine.

      This action and actions like it are quite easy to do yourself. This only took a few hours and a little bit of planning. The hardest part was calming our nerves. Particularly easy was placing wire on the tracks to send a signal to the train company that the tracks were blocked. This action can and has been easily repeated wherever train tracks are. For more info on how to do this check out this explanatory video.

      Concrete on the tracks is just a start
      Rest in Power James Marker!
      Free Red Fawn!

      Puget Sound Anarchists


    44. Aussie Infidel
      45 | April 20, 2017 10:52 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      thedailyintrep.com

      yes. but I still don’t understand what happened. the MSM are playing it as tho the White House doesnt know where the effing navy is and giving out bad info

      It’s on purpose and it’s bloody dangerous. Un threatened today to lay waste South Korea and the US West Coast Guam & Hawaii. The last thing you need to do is rattle Un’s cage. He’s unstable already and yet the MSM are playing this duplicitous game.

      All for the sake of advertising revenue.

      Bastards


    45. AZfederalist
      46 | April 20, 2017 10:58 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      They may find that the current DOJ that is charged with enforcing laws may not be as docile as the prior DOJ. Damaging train tracks — sounds like interfering with interstate and foreign commerce — definitely a federal issue.


    46. Aussie Infidel
      47 | April 20, 2017 10:58 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      “We blocked the train tracks because we want to blockade the entire web of domination that is slowly killing us.”

      Please understand Mr.Red Fawn I don’t want you to be killed slowly. I want you to be killed with all dispatch. And the sooner the better. Please continue with your feloneous action and I’ll see if we can get you a cell with Bubba who also committed wilful murder. I am told Bubba absolutely hates red indians / native americans / murderous anarchist wreckers / whatever !

      🙂


    47. Aussie Infidel
      48 | April 20, 2017 10:59 pm

      @ AZfederalist:
      The crime is sabotage resulting in death .

      Yup I think that is a federal felony the last time I looked.

      🙂


    48. AZfederalist
      49 | April 20, 2017 10:59 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      All for the sake of advertising revenue.

      Bastards

      Not advertising revenue, to promote the agenda and political view that these marxists in the press embrace.


    49. Canoe Convoy
      50 | April 20, 2017 10:59 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Interference with railroad operations and interstate commerce is a federal offense. Good luck attempting righteousness in Levenworth. What a**holes.


    50. eaglesoars
      51 | April 20, 2017 11:08 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      @ AZfederalist:
      @ Canoe Convoy:

      Have you heard a report about this ANYWHERE?? If I didn’t check FreeRepublic like clockwork, I would never know about it


    51. Deplorable Idapig
      52 | April 20, 2017 11:10 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      I know he’s not our favorite around here, but THIS might prove to be GREAT FUN

      Wonder if Obama is checking to see how far you have to be in international waters to avoid arrest. Those rich guys may NEVER get their yachts back.

      He’s a constitutional attorney and when he lawyers, he’s good at what he does. It’s when he tries to be a radio personality that he scares the sane away.


    52. eaglesoars
      53 | April 20, 2017 11:11 pm

      This is an excellent analysis of the why and wherefore of O’Reilly leaving Fox – and why Rush, faced with similar tactics from the left, survived. And make no mistake, these people are not done.

      Here’s why Rush survived pressure on advertisers while O’Reilly didn’t


    53. eaglesoars
      54 | April 20, 2017 11:14 pm

      I’m off to read. I’ve started ‘Shattered’, the book on Hillary’s campaign. I’m not very far into it but one thing strikes me already – nobody has any real affection for her as a person. Huma may, the book hasn’t introduced her, but for everybody else, she’s just a means to an end.

      ok, nite.


    54. coldwarrior
      55 | April 21, 2017 9:22 am

      The Republican National Committee (RNC) on Friday announced it raised $41.5 million in the first three months of 2017, its strongest-ever total for the first quarter following a presidential race.

      “Our record-setting fundraising pace has been fueled by grassroots enthusiasm for President Trump and the Republican Party,” RNC Chairwoman Ronna Romney McDaniel said in a statement.

      no, no Ronna…this has nothing to do with the lame-assed GOP. this is ALL trump sweetie.


    55. eaglesoars
      56 | April 21, 2017 10:09 am

      @ coldwarrior:

      did you see what Ryan’s been up to? He was in London talking up TTIP. This is making me a bit nuts. Either he is REALLY on the other side OR he’s in cahoots WITH Trump. I mean, who DOES that?


    56. eaglesoars
      57 | April 21, 2017 10:34 am

      I have just been informed that 181 years ago today Texas won its independence.

      Happy San Jacinto Day!


    57. 58 | April 21, 2017 10:54 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      I have just been informed that 181 years ago today Texas won its independence.

      Happy San Jacinto Day!

      Bah Texas only declared its Independence because it found out California had already declared its Independence. Texas=1836, California=1823…


    58. 59 | April 21, 2017 10:55 am

      @ RIX:

      Mark is great for Constitutional law questions. But I agree with you, he is very difficult to listen to. I DO like that he does a lot of interviews – Sessions, Pence, Andy McCarthy, etc. and gets some great information out and he’s a good interviewer.

      That being said, I am frankly sick of the constant hyping of his books and his CRTV channel. I only signed up for Mark Steyn and that went kaput – I’m not going to pay for Michele Malking and Steve Crowder when both have huge presences on the internet already. His own TV show is nothing more than a rehash of his radio show of that night with visuals.

      And as for hyping of books – hey Rush, I’m looking at you, too. Thanks for writing the history books for kids, but with the questions and problems in our country today, I can do without the lengthy phone calls from kids and parents telling you how great you are in the hopes you’ll send them free stuff.


    59. 60 | April 21, 2017 10:57 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      As they should. The antics of the Obama administration are starting to make Watergate look like a Wal-Mart shoplifting expedition.

      Edited because I didn’t get as far as your comment that you were off to read “Shattered” before I asked you if you were planning to read it. Heh.


    60. 61 | April 21, 2017 11:11 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      My personal favorite story on the whole Rush boycott tactics is the way some of his long-time advertisers jumped on their high horses after the Fluke statements and announced with GREAT fanfare that they would henceforth no longer be sponsors of his show.

      Of course, they forgot one thing. Rush has 20,000,000 weekly listeners. And I imagine 99% of them are employed and active consumers. One of those sponsors was Sleep Train, who had been with him since his early days in Sacramento (where I used to listen to him on KFBK and heard the first “Rio Linda” jokes). After their grandstanding, they discovered that their showrooms were emptying out. Why? Limbaugh audience is huge and LOYAL. So there are plenty of mattress stores. No need to shop there. And of course, the #StopRush Robo-Recall didn’t replace the shoppers that they lost.

      After about six months, they contacted Rush and advised that they’d like to advertise on his show again. They were informed that there was no longer any “room” – that in fact, all those advertisers that had exited stage left were immediately replaced with advertisers who had been waiting for an opening.

      I notice also that “Sleep Train” just changed its name to “MattressFIRM.” Hmmm….maybe so Rush listeners will forget?


    61. eaglesoars
      62 | April 21, 2017 12:20 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      Limbaugh audience is huge and LOYAL

      one thing that Murdoch’s young bucks don’t get.

      No one was loyal to Megan Kelly. Megan thought so and she’s about to get decapitated at NBC in terms of eyes-on-the-tube.

      There ARE some people at Fox who command loyalty. Tucker is one “in the making” I think. Chris Wallace, nope. Greg Gutfeld, yes. Jesse Waters, yes. Brett, maybe.


    62. RIX
      63 | April 21, 2017 1:04 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:
      levin cuts both ways, I am just not a fan, but I understand that he has guts.
      The most shameless book promotion that I have ever seen is Me Again Kelly. Used to like her, but she wore thin.


    63. 64 | April 21, 2017 1:07 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      I completely agree on Tucker. He’s got one of the best shows going. And of course, I keep forgetting to set the DVR to record. And I can do it from my Smart Phone.

      It turns out one of the Berkeley Antifa attackers – who was beating Trump supporters with a bike lock – is a SF State and Diablo Valley College professor. I would think he should worry but with the Alameda and/or Contra Costa County DA’s being assholes, and our current California AG is off pursuing charges against dangerous anti-Planned Parenthood video makers, one even wonders if this dirtbag will be looking at criminal charges.

      Of course…..nothing prevents his victims from bringing a CIVIL suit against him, where the standard of proof is lower.

      Levin is right about one thing. Sessions should federalize the California National Guard and send them to effing Berkeley. Let’s see what those ISIS-dressed wannabe’s do when instead of looking at a de-fanged police force, they’re staring at a line of M16’s and truly “tough” men and women who know how to use them.


    64. RIX
      65 | April 21, 2017 1:11 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      When Trump was pulling away in the primaries the NeverTrumpers on the GOPe blogs snarked that he did not have
      majority. Never mind that there were 16 other candidates. When a team wins the pennant the combined win totals
      of the rest of the league are greater than the winner. Following that logic the winner is actually a loser.
      Then the meme was that he could never beat Ted one on one, until he did in Indiana.


    65. 66 | April 21, 2017 1:25 pm

      Guy Benson was pointing out on Twitter re Dems’ threat to “shut down” the government – that Trump would probably work it so the effects were minimal (unlike Obama, who was just a nasty child in the way he closed services).

      It would be supremely satisfying to see the Trump administration keep everything running during the shutdown with just the “essential” personnel on the job, and the Dems getting all stompy feet.


    66. Deplorable Idapig
      67 | April 21, 2017 1:43 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      Guy Benson was pointing out on Twitter re Dems’ threat to “shut down” the government – that Trump would probably work it so the effects were minimal (unlike Obama, who was just a nasty child in the way he closed services).

      It would be supremely satisfying to see the Trump administration keep everything running during the shutdown with just the “essential” personnel on the job, and the Dems getting all stompy feet.

      And he’d probably make sure seniors and military personnel weren’t in the dems crosshairs as a bargaining chip!


    67. eaglesoars
    68. eaglesoars
      69 | April 21, 2017 3:32 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      massive power outage is San Fran?

      also LA and NYC

      what a coinky dink


    69. eaglesoars
      70 | April 21, 2017 6:49 pm

      Russia’s FSB intelligence agency says three people were killed ‐ including the attacker ‐ and one wounded in an armed attack at its office in the Far East.

      The FSB, the main successor to the KGB, said in a statement on Friday that an unidentified man passed by metal detectors, entered the reception area of the FSB’s office in Khabarovsk and opened fire at the people who were there. One FSB officer and one visitor were killed on spot and one was wounded. Security shot dead the attacker.

      The FSB would not immediately release any details about the shooter.

      Three dead in armed attack at Russian intelligence agency

      Khabarovsk is a city in the far east of Russia


    70. eaglesoars
      71 | April 21, 2017 6:59 pm

      Too bad this doesn’t happen more often. The Lt. Gov of Penna. and the missus thought it was ok to treat the people who care for and protect them like crap. They can now drive themselves and clean up their own shit.

      HARRISBURG, Pa. —

      Lieutenant Gov. Mike Stack and his wife are no longer allowed the protective detail of the Pennsylvania State Police. This comes following an investigation that Stack and his wife mistreated troopers on their security detail and other staff members.
      []
      Further, the Department of General Services will provide only limited cleaning, grounds keeping and maintenance at the state-owned residence at Fort Indiantown Gap only under limited supervision at prearranged times.

      Sadly, arrogance and corruption among Democrat public officials, especially those from Philadelphia, is becoming more and more common these days.”


    71. rain of lead
      72 | April 21, 2017 7:27 pm

      hey y’all
      been a long week


    72. 73 | April 21, 2017 7:31 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Let me guess. The just wanted to emulate the Clintons.


    73. 74 | April 21, 2017 7:36 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Interesting that if we hadn’t moved our offices in San Francisco last June. we would have been among those without power. But our office, which is on the Embarcadero, is fine.

      Of course, I’m in Oakland, so no effect. But it would not surprise me to find out this might have been a dry run.


    74. eaglesoars
      75 | April 21, 2017 7:40 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      But it would not surprise me to find out this might have been a dry run.

      PG&E officials said an overloaded circuit breaker malfunctioned at the Larkin substation, sparking a fire in the insulation.


    75. eaglesoars
      76 | April 21, 2017 7:41 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      {rain}

      everything ok?


    76. rain of lead
      78 | April 21, 2017 7:43 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      yeah, just a lot of work
      double shifts suck but the OT is helpful

      momcat is doing ok and the girl is out with some friends going to a local play


    77. lobo91
      79 | April 21, 2017 7:50 pm

      Antifa Wants Combat Training And Firearms After Losing The ‘Battle For Berkeley’

      Last week supporters of President Donald Trump clashed with members of the leftist group known as Antifa (short for anti-fascist) in Berkeley California. The meeting of the two groups soon erupted in violence, with Antifa using mace, M80’s, and various other weapons to attack Trump supporters.

      According to Rebel Media’s Lauren Southern, Trump supporters were told by police not to bring any weapons, as police would protect them. Upon Anitfa’s arrival, the police retreated, leaving the Trump supporters to utilize whatever weapons they could get their hands on. Regardless, the Trump supporters routed Antifa after one of their members threw a smoke bomb, not realizing the wind was blowing in Antifa’s direction.

      This loss prompted Antifa members to begin discussion about how they could better prepare themselves for future skirmishes against Trump supporters.

      In the subreddit r/anarchism, one Anitfa member acknowledged the loss, and suggested that members find a way to become “better organized and better trained.” Another member agreed, saying that too many of their “comrades” went into battle “no combat training,” and suggested they start “seminars or something of that sort.”

      This conversation continued, with suggestions for better equipment such as helmets and padding over the typical hoodie and facemask being worn. Another person on this r/anarchism thread suggested they rally behind a leader who can organize and direct actions. The conversation soon turned to weapons, however, and one member in particular suggested they bring firearms.

      Not getting disarmed is a big part of the problem, yes, but we need more than flags and bats. We need to take notes from the John Brown Gun Club and get firearms and training. I know getting firearms in states and cities we have a presence in is usually a hassle, but even handguns would help. It would certainly put a psychological element in while holding fash back. Who do you think a fascist is more afraid of? People with only flags and bats, or people with flags, bats, and guns?”


    78. eaglesoars
      80 | April 21, 2017 7:54 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      do you have the weekend off?

      lobo91 wrote:

      but even handguns would help.

      should be fun. I read thru the comments and Gen Mossberg was really peeling the hide from the Berkeley police. He’s convinced they’re in on it. I think their query to antifa about whether they wanted symbolic arrests may have been a clue.


    79. 81 | April 21, 2017 7:55 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      That goes back to a book titled ‘What’s the Matter With Kansas’, which basically argues that many if not most conservatives are driven mostly by social issues, and vote against their best economic issues (steeply progressive taxes, massive regulation) in order to further those social issues.


    80. lobo91
      82 | April 21, 2017 7:58 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Never mind the fact that handguns are the most difficult firearms to actually become proficient with.

      They watch too many movies.


    81. darkwords
      83 | April 21, 2017 8:15 pm

      ISIS getting pounded by the US


    82. eaglesoars
      84 | April 21, 2017 8:20 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      That goes back to a book titled ‘What’s the Matter With Kansas’,

      yeah, Thomas Franks, I read it. He gave an interview not too long ago that showed he’s learned nothing. He went on a road trip after the election to ‘red’ cities like Pittsburgh. Thinks Hillary would have been a good POTUS or something.


    83. rain of lead
      85 | April 21, 2017 8:25 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      do you have the weekend off?

      nah, just tomorrow
      but it’s supposed to rain so I’m gonna sleep all day


    84. eaglesoars
      86 | April 21, 2017 8:36 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      but it’s supposed to rain so I’m gonna sleep all day

      I love those days. say hi to your ladies for me.


    85. eaglesoars
      87 | April 21, 2017 8:42 pm

      Oh. My. God.

      A tweet from the Twat McMuffin.

      If you’re an American, I risked my life for you while at CIA. And I’d do it again.

      Well, if at first you don’t succeed I always say


    86. eaglesoars
      88 | April 21, 2017 8:48 pm

      Self defense training in Trump’s America

      because crime escalated dramatically after Trump’s election


    87. Deplorable Bumr50
      89 | April 21, 2017 8:48 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      So why isn’t he doing it?


    88. RIX
      90 | April 21, 2017 9:05 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Rambo McMuffin!


    89. eaglesoars
      91 | April 21, 2017 9:11 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      So why isn’t he doing it?

      why isn’t who doing what?


    90. eaglesoars
      92 | April 21, 2017 9:12 pm

      RIX wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      Rambo McMuffin!

      beta male’s wet dream


    91. eaglesoars
      93 | April 21, 2017 9:14 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      So why isn’t he doing it?

      why isn’t who doing what?

      oh McMuffin! Sorry. Well, I don’t know, why don’t we ask him? He apparently did work for the CIA but I don’t know in what capacity.


    92. RIX
      94 | April 21, 2017 9:15 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      Rambo McMuffin!

      beta male’s wet dream

      That’s it, the guy is like a joke punch line .


    93. eaglesoars
      95 | April 21, 2017 9:19 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      I don’t know in what capacity.

      undercover it looks like

      the problem I have with this piece is that I actually know one and know of another person who worked in this capacity and not only do THEY not talk about it, neither do any of the people who worked with them. The person I know of who worked undercover found out I am aware and pitched a fit, not because I can’t be trusted but because her brother told me and she decided HE couldn’t be trusted. Put it this way. Their mother doesn’t know.


    94. Deplorable Bumr50
      96 | April 21, 2017 9:25 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Putting his life on the line.

      He WAS CIA, right?

      Looks young. Why isn’t he still CIA?


    95. Deplorable Bumr50
      97 | April 21, 2017 9:28 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      LOL sorry. Missed your reply. Stupid mandatory 7-day workweeks.

      Also, I’m drinking an 11.9% abv, limited run beer that should cost 60 dollars a case for 40 dollars a case because my local distributor is an idiot.

      I’m about to go down there tomorrow and buy the other two.


    96. Deplorable Bumr50
      98 | April 21, 2017 9:31 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      He looks as out of place in that photo with his collared shirt and khakis plus vest and gun at an Iraqi airport as the moron salesmen that I watched my old man “compete” with at the steel mills for sales when they’d walk in with ties and loafers.

      I mean, seriously, what was the situation there?


    97. Deplorable Bumr50
      99 | April 21, 2017 9:37 pm

      OH, NEVER MIND!!

      I read the piece.

      McMuffin is on a mission from Deseret.

      Forgot.

      A “Muslim ban” threatens Mormons, because ????

      Again, something stinks in Utah…


    98. AZfederalist
      100 | April 21, 2017 9:42 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      I know getting firearms in states and cities we have a presence in is usually a hassle, but even handguns would help. It would certainly put a psychological element in while holding fash back. Who do you think a fascist is more afraid of? People with only flags and bats, or people with flags, bats, and guns?”

      They have no idea what that will bring down upon them. They are just learning about firearms at best, the people against whom they are battling have been exposed to firearms since childhood.


    99. eaglesoars
      101 | April 21, 2017 9:45 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      I mean, seriously, what was the situation there?

      I have no idea, but I’m pretty sure it’s not what he wants us to think.


    100. RIX
      102 | April 21, 2017 9:47 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      OH, NEVER MIND!!

      I read the piece.

      McMuffin is on a mission from Deseret.

      Forgot.

      A “Muslim ban” threatens Mormons, because ????

      Again, something stinks in Utah…

      The Mormon Church opposed Trump and dispatched Romney to do a smear job.
      Why?


    101. eaglesoars
      103 | April 21, 2017 9:51 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      the people against whom they are battling have been exposed to firearms since childhood.

      which, in my mind, makes the antifa crowd a lot more dangerous. They’re just going to point and shoot – like their target won’t move. Trying to hit a moving target under controlled circumstances brings instant humility. I’ve never even trained for when both shooter and target are moving.


    102. eaglesoars
      104 | April 21, 2017 9:52 pm

      RIX wrote:

      Why?

      because he doesn’t owe them a damn thing


    103. eaglesoars
      105 | April 21, 2017 9:55 pm

      I wonder if this has anything to do with the Berkeley Police Dept’s behavior

      Berkeley Mayor Publicly Belongs To Violent Leftist Group


    104. AZfederalist
      106 | April 21, 2017 9:57 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      which, in my mind, makes the antifa crowd a lot more dangerous. They’re just going to point and shoot – like their target won’t move.

      That is an issue. Good news is there is a lot more space full of “not targets” than targets. But yeah, they are likely to kill some innocent bystander. I’d say “or one of their own”, but I can’t find a downside to that.


    105. eaglesoars
      107 | April 21, 2017 10:02 pm

      Another lie from the unhinged left. In the Hill, no less

      Bannon carefully positioned Breitbart as the hate-right’s central media site without explicitly challenging the Constitution or advocating for ethnic cleansing of non-whites. The site became the premiere, go-to source of outlinks on hate-mongering websites like the neo-Nazi The Daily Stormer.

      That is a flat-out lie.

      I caught of bit of Martha McCallum’s show today. I didn’t catch his name but some leftard was bemoaning the ‘racism, anti-semitism’ of the Trump admin. He accused him of denying the Holocaust. When told no one could recall THAT he said Spicer did it in the presser the other day. When told “that’s not what happened”, he didn’t care. HE NEEDED IT TO HAVE HAPPENED, so it happened.


    106. Deplorable Bumr50
      108 | April 21, 2017 10:04 pm

      Late last March the Mormon Church completed an ambitious project: a megamall. Built for roughly $2 billion, the City Creek Center stands directly across the street from the church’s iconic neo-Gothic temple in Salt Lake City. The mall includes a retractable glass roof, 5,000 underground parking spots, and nearly 100 stores and restaurants, ranging from Tiffany’s to Forever 21. Walkways link the open-air emporium with the church’s perfectly manicured headquarters on Temple Square. Macy’s is a stone’s throw from the offices of the church’s president, Thomas S. Monson, whom Mormons believe to be a living prophet.

      On the morning of its grand opening, thousands of shoppers thronged downtown Salt Lake, eager to elbow their way into the stores. The national anthem played, and Henry B. Eyring, one of Monson’s top counselors, told the crowds, “Everything that we see around us is evidence of the long-standing commitment of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to Salt Lake City.” When it came time to cut the mall’s flouncy pink ribbon, Monson, flanked by Utah dignitaries, cheered, “One, two, three—let’s go shopping!”

      Watching a religious leader celebrate a mall may seem surreal, but City Creek reflects the spirit of enterprise that animates modern-day Mormonism. The mall is part of a sprawling church-owned corporate empire that the Mormon leadership says is helping spread its message, increasing economic self-reliance, and building the Kingdom of God on earth. “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints attends to the total needs of its members,” says Keith B. McMullin, who for 37 years served within the Mormon leadership and now heads a church-owned holding company, Deseret Management Corp. (DMC), an umbrella organization for many of the church’s for-profit businesses. “We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”

      A close relative of Evan McMullin actually runs all Church owned media through its parent company, Deseret Management Corporation, which is wholly owned by the Mormon Church. That man is Keith B McMullin:

      Keith B. McMullin, CEO/President

      Maybe I’m a little tipsy…


    107. eaglesoars
      109 | April 21, 2017 10:22 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      so what do you get when you cross Scientology w/the Mafia?

      The Mormon Church

      alternate answer: don’t cross either of them if you know what’s good for you.

      off to read. nite.


    108. lobo91
      110 | April 21, 2017 10:23 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      which, in my mind, makes the antifa crowd a lot more dangerous. They’re just going to point and shoot – like their target won’t move. Trying to hit a moving target under controlled circumstances brings instant humility. I’ve never even trained for when both shooter and target are moving.

      You should watch Youtube videos of actual shootouts sometime. Big difference from TV.

      I watched one where two guys were shooting at each other in a bar, with a pool table in between them. Between the two of them, they fired about 15-20 rounds.

      Not one hit anyone.


    109. Deplorable Bumr50
      111 | April 21, 2017 10:24 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Nite, eagles.


    110. lobo91
      112 | April 21, 2017 10:28 pm

      This one’s a classic. Why you don’t bring a pistol to a rifle fight:


    111. Aussie Infidel
      113 | April 21, 2017 10:30 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      But it would not surprise me to find out this might have been a dry run.

      PG&E officials said an overloaded circuit breaker malfunctioned at the Larkin substation, sparking a fire in the insulation.

      Not a coincidence tactically but one hell of a LARGE ‘coincidence Strategically. The Obama Administration closing of coal and even nuclear powered power stations is only a tactical ‘imbuggerence’ locally but do that many times and the whole electric grid becomes Strategically vulnerable.

      If the grid is enfeebled by destroying more and more power nodes (power generating stations,the strain goes onto the substations and switching gear so major ‘cascade outages’ become more ‘normal’. So strategically the whole system is weaker and more prone to larger scale outages.

      We have three ‘mainland’ states in Oz currently with Labor (Socialist State administrations. South Australia also caught a terminal case of Whaermelon politics’ Green on the outside and red within. These wreckers aim to make SA 40% renewable in power so they not only closed a major coal fired power station in Port Pierie they insisted that it be dynamited so that no future conservative administration couldn’t quickly re-instate it.

      Then the wind died and the wind turbines stopped killing birds and producing a trickily of power and the lights went out for the whole State. The State of Victoria helped out after a while and sent power from their Brown-coal fired power stations to help SA. Now the socialists in Victoria have shut down the major (20% of the total State output) station so next time the wind stops blowing in SA it’ll reman in the dark.

      Companies are moving production out of SA and nowVictoria where Labor (Socialists ) are in power because there is no guarantee of power supply. The Fabianists are shouting … nothing to see here folks… probably because it’s too dark to see anything.

      This sort of wrecking is a direct result of Progressive politics and so called Green thinking


    112. Aussie Infidel
      114 | April 21, 2017 10:32 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      so what do you get when you cross Scientology w/the Mafia?

      The Mormon Church

      alternate answer: don’t cross either of them if you know what’s good for you.

      off to read. nite.

      Theocratic crony capitalism !


    113. lobo91
      115 | April 21, 2017 10:35 pm

      I’m watching last night’s 2 part episode of The Blacklist. Poor Aram. His last girlfriend turned out to be some sort of hacker who was using him to gain access to the task force’s servers. The new one is apparently just a moron.

      He goes to check the front door, and when he doesn’t return after a minute or two, she goes to check on him. Upon seeing him on the living room floor with his hands zip-tied behind his back and duct tape over his mouth, she just stops and looks at him and says “Oh my God.”

      Umm…do you think he did that to himself?


    114. AZfederalist
      116 | April 21, 2017 11:00 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      When told “that’s not what happened”, he didn’t care. HE NEEDED IT TO HAVE HAPPENED, so it happened.

      … and that is where we are at. Fact checking and truth no longer matter. It is narrative uber alles


    115. eaglesoars
      117 | April 21, 2017 11:07 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      I read thru the comments and Gen Mossberg was really peeling the hide from the Berkeley police. He’s convinced they’re in on it. I think their query to antifa about whether they wanted symbolic arrests may have been a clue.

      oh this is life time employment for lawyers who specialize in violation of civil rights laws. Look at the mayor

      Berkeley Mayor Jesse Arreguin is a member of the anti-fascist Facebook group, By Any Means Necessary, which orchestrated the riots that occurred ahead of a scheduled lecture by Milo Yiannopoulos.
      []
      BAMN was investigated for engaging in terrorist activities in 2005 by the FBI. In 2009, the Department of Defense classified the group’s activities as “low-level terrorism.” In June 2016, BAMN led a violent counter-protest outside a white nationalist rally that resulted in ten people being hospitalized with stab wounds.

      Often described as a “militant left-wing” activist group, BAMN frequently engages in violent forms of protests. A Berkeley newspaper noted in 2001 that the group was a front for an “an obscure Detroit-based Trotskyist political party called the Revolutionary Workers League.”

      start looking at the Chief of Police now. This is open-field running for DOJ

      @ lobo91:

      I’m going to have to look at that video again tomorrow. I can’t figure out what the cops are firing but that poor schlub w/the AK-47 picked the wrong target.


    116. Deplorable Idapig
      118 | April 21, 2017 11:12 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      But it would not surprise me to find out this might have been a dry run.

      PG&E officials said an overloaded circuit breaker malfunctioned at the Larkin substation, sparking a fire in the insulation.

      Not a coincidence tactically but one hell of a LARGE ‘coincidence Strategically. The Obama Administration closing of coal and even nuclear powered power stations is only a tactical ‘imbuggerence’ locally but do that many times and the whole electric grid becomes Strategically vulnerable.

      If the grid is enfeebled by destroying more and more power nodes (power generating stations,the strain goes onto the substations and switching gear so major ‘cascade outages’ become more ‘normal’. So strategically the whole system is weaker and more prone to larger scale outages.

      We have three ‘mainland’ states in Oz currently with Labor (Socialist State administrations. South Australia also caught a terminal case of Whaermelon politics’ Green on the outside and red within. These wreckers aim to make SA 40% renewable in power so they not only closed a major coal fired power station in Port Pierie they insisted that it be dynamited so that no future conservative administration couldn’t quickly re-instate it.

      Then the wind died and the wind turbines stopped killing birds and producing a trickily of power and the lights went out for the whole State. The State of Victoria helped out after a while and sent power from their Brown-coal fired power stations to help SA. Now the socialists in Victoria have shut down the major (20% of the total State output) station so next time the wind stops blowing in SA it’ll reman in the dark.

      Companies are moving production out of SA and nowVictoria where Labor (Socialists ) are in power because there is no guarantee of power supply. The Fabianists are shouting … nothing to see here folks… probably because it’s too dark to see anything.

      This sort of wrecking is a direct result of Progressive politics and so called Green thinking

      We caught a lucky break when obama took office and started closing down coal mines all over the country because we’d started using natural gas instead of coal in a LOT of power plants. Otherwise we’d be in rolling brown outs across the country. Kinda like California when Enron folded.


    117. eaglesoars
      119 | April 21, 2017 11:12 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      … and that is where we are at. Fact checking and truth no longer matter. It is narrative uber alles

      it’s liberal psychology. I see a lot of moaning about how liberals can always mobilize their troops and conservatives are still tying their shoes. Nobody seems to understand that that mobilization thing is a necessary bonding ritual for people who need to belong to a hive. their entire sense of self and virtue comes from the ‘other’, which has to be evil otherwise they can’t be good. Mob validation is the only thing they have because self-actualization is beyond them.

      This isn’t complicated. There’s nothing fundamentally political about it, politics is just the stage. The play is the thing.

      I can’t keep the eyes open. blech


    118. lobo91
      120 | April 21, 2017 11:36 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      I’m going to have to look at that video again tomorrow. I can’t figure out what the cops are firing but that poor schlub w/the AK-47 picked the wrong target.

      The cops had standard service pistols. Probably .40 caliber.

      It’s hard to shoot accurately when someone is hosing down your patrol car with AK rounds, though.

      The two cops were shielded by the doors, for the most part. Generally, that won’t work in the real world. AK or AR rounds will cut right through car doors, contrary to what they show on TV. But many patrol cars have Kevlar panels in the front doors for just that reason.


    119. AZfederalist
      121 | April 21, 2017 11:37 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      I’m going to have to look at that video again tomorrow. I can’t figure out what the cops are firing but that poor schlub dumb@$$ w/the AK-47 picked the wrong target.

      FIFY. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Sounds like there were two cops? I heard the one say, “you cover, I’ll call dispatch”


    120. AZfederalist
      122 | April 21, 2017 11:39 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Nobody seems to understand that that mobilization thing is a necessary bonding ritual for people who need to belong to a hive. their entire sense of self and virtue comes from the ‘other’, which has to be evil otherwise they can’t be good. Mob validation is the only thing they have because self-actualization is beyond them.

      Hadn’t thought of it that way, but that does make a lot of sense. It explains how the communists were able to enslave China and the Soviet Union and explains the cult-like Juche of North Korea


    121. lobo91
      123 | April 21, 2017 11:48 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      FIFY. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Sounds like there were two cops? I heard the one say, “you cover, I’ll call dispatch”

      There were. Male driver, female passenger. Both of them were hit, although they survived. The third voice at the end was a bystander who came to help.


    122. eaglesoars
      124 | April 22, 2017 9:23 am

      lobo91 wrote:

      The cops had standard service pistols. Probably .40 caliber.

      It sounds as tho the police were firing TONS of rounds which I’m finding confusing. I THINK I can distinguish the AK-47 from the .40 cal but perhaps not. I count about 20 rounds from one cop who apparently got out of the car (because I heard one car door open) and I think it was from the driver side because that seems to be the direction the perp was aiming after he got done with the windshield. So I guess my question is – how many rounds did that gun have?


    123. lobo91
      125 | April 22, 2017 10:16 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      Both cops got out and were standing/crouching behind the open doors.

      At the end, the male cop (the driver) emptied his magazine into the guy. I counted 17 shots. It must have been a 9mm, probably a Glock (the full size .40 cal magazine only holds 15).


    124. eaglesoars
      126 | April 22, 2017 11:02 am

      lobo91 wrote:

      Both cops got out and were standing/crouching behind the open doors.

      Ah, ok, that would cover it, thanks


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