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  • POTUS Fires FBI Director!

    by coldwarrior ( 186 Comments › )
    Filed under Open thread, Politics at May 10th, 2017 - 9:07 am

    President Clinton fired FBI Director William S. Sessions yesterday, ending a six-month drama during which the former federal judge refused repeated requests from administration officials to resign.

    Clinton telephoned Sessions yesterday afternoon to inform him that he had been fired and then called back several minutes later to remind him that the dismissal was “effective immediately.” The president told reporters afterwards that he acted after Attorney General Janet Reno “reported to me in no uncertain terms that he {Sessions} can no longer effectively lead the bureau and law enforcement community” and that he agreed with that assessment.

    Clinton, who said it was time to end “the turmoil now in the bureau” and “give the crime fighters the leadership they deserve,” is expected to announce today that he has selected federal Judge Louis J. Freeh of Manhattan, a 43-year-old former FBI agent and federal prosecutor, to head the agency. Clinton interviewed Freeh at the White House for two hours on Friday night, press secretary Dee Dee Myers said.

    oh wait…wrong POTUS!

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    1. eaglesoars
      1 | May 10, 2017 9:21 am

      A little OT, but I’ll repost from downstairs

      I don’t like Mike Cernovich, don’t know exactly why, but I just want to smack him silly for some reason. However, he usually gets it right. Usually.

      This is from yesterday at about 5:30 pm

      Comey has been withholding documents on HR McMaster’s illegal contact and sharing of classified information with Patreus.


    2. lobo91
      2 | May 10, 2017 9:35 am

      No Joke: ACLU Lawyer Says Travel Ban “Could Be Constitutional” If Enacted By Hillary Clinton…

      ACLU Lawyer Omar Jadwat, arguing against President Trump’s travel ban before the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals on Monday, admitted that the same exact travel ban “could be” constitutional if it were enacted by Hillary Clinton.

      Jadwat argued that Trump’s campaign animus motivated the order, making it illegitimate. This claim was challenged by the Fourth Circuit’s Judge Paul Niemeyer.

      “If a different candidate had won the election and then issued this order, I gather you wouldn’t have any problem with that?” Niemeyer asked.

      Jadwat dodged on directly answering the question at first, but Niemeyer persisted, asking the question again.

      Jadwat again tried to avoid the question, asking for clarification on the hypothetical, but Niemeyer once again demanded an answer.

      “We have a candidate who won the presidency, some candidate other than President Trump won the presidency and then chose to issue this particular order, with whatever counsel he took,” Niemeyer said. “Do I understand that just in that circumstance, the executive order should be honored?”

      “Yes, your honor, I think in that case, it could be constitutional,” Jadwat admitted.


    3. eaglesoars
      3 | May 10, 2017 9:41 am

      lobo91 wrote:

      Omar Jadwat

      Those Irish are such clever chaps!


    4. 4 | May 10, 2017 9:52 am

      I am laughing my ass off at the Democrat gnashing of teeth and indignation over the Comey firing. Blumenthal – that FAKE Vietnam War veteran – is almost in tears at CNN.

      All are calling for a “Special Prosecutor” – of course, we should all go back to July and October of last year and count up the tweets and statements asking Obama to fire this POS. Now they want a a Kangaroo Star Chamber (or so they think) set up to investigate this.

      Fair enough, I guess. And we’ll take it into consideratin and respond to it the same way the Obama/Holder/Lynch Justice Departments did when a Special Prosecutor was sought for the Fast and Furious / IRS / Benghazi scandals.


    5. RIX
      5 | May 10, 2017 9:58 am

      http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/332649-mccain-disappointed-in-trump-for-firing-comey
      @ The Hill
      Good morning. True to form McCsin is critical,of the Trump firing of Comey.
      I wonder how many lives have been lost, trampled by McCain running to a camera?


    6. eaglesoars
      6 | May 10, 2017 10:32 am

      @ RIX:

      Trump should start tweeting about McCain’s complicity in acquiring the ‘golden showers’ dossier and feeding it to the FBI.

      “McCain is disappointed that fake Russia memo he went to London to get and gave to the FBI is more FAKE NEWS”

      Is that around 140 characters?


    7. 7 | May 10, 2017 10:50 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      Get the feeling there’s more to the McCain/Dossier backstory than what we know and that with Comey fired, the NEW head of the FBI will have access to that information and find out that McCain’s role was not so innocent after all?


    8. eaglesoars
      9 | May 10, 2017 11:12 am

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      This is why driverless cars could be such a boon. Older people need to get around and they should be as independent for as long as they can. But most 87 yr olds should not be driving. My parents, who lived in sleepy Dothan Alabama, both stopped driving at around 83 and even that was pushing it.


    9. eaglesoars
      10 | May 10, 2017 11:21 am

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      Get the feeling there’s more to the McCain/Dossier backstory than what we know and that with Comey fired, the NEW head of the FBI will have access to that information and find out that McCain’s role was not so innocent after all?

      Here is what I noticed. And it was Britt Hume who inadvertently gave me the heads up.

      There is a reason this was done while Comey was out of town, he did not receive a phone call, text, anything. He was blindsided and it was not happenstance. Britt Hume said the WH wasn’t aware he was out of town and it was bad staff work.

      Jeff Sessions and Rob Rubenstein don’t do bad staff work.

      Comey had no chance to move/hide/give instructions. The locks were changed before he knew the divorce papers had been filed.

      The loudest sound in this town last nite was PUCKER


    10. 11 | May 10, 2017 11:28 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      I’m with you – Sessions is thorough. It would not surprise me if the White House simply told Sessions that Comey was being fired but that he would leave it up to Sessions to say WHEN. And yes, the minute Comey was gone, bang!

      I’d love to know what the CAREER field agents think about this. Maybe we can interrupt their celebratory conga line to get a quote.

      http://www.weaselzippers.us/338077-video-former-fbi-agents-praise-comey-firing/


    11. eaglesoars
      12 | May 10, 2017 11:32 am

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      I’d love to know what the CAREER field agents think about this. Maybe we can interrupt their celebratory conga line to get a quote.

      I’m sure Dan Bongino will enlighten us any day now.


    12. coldwarrior
      13 | May 10, 2017 12:48 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      Blumenthal – that FAKE Vietnam War veteran – is almost in tears at CNN.

      there are some folks who would like a few moments alone in a locked room with that shitbag.


    13. 14 | May 10, 2017 12:53 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      I recommend a dark alley with no witnesses. Let the scumbag think he has a remote avenue of escape. Not to mention the delicious dragging possibilites of neglected asphalt.


    14. 15 | May 10, 2017 1:24 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      Blumenthal – that FAKE Vietnam War veteran – is almost in tears at CNN.

      there are some folks who would like a few moments alone in a locked room with that shitbag.

      A former drinking buddy of mine “The Hack” Would no doubt have loved to be at the very front of that line.


    15. 16 | May 10, 2017 1:36 pm

      A thought popped into my head. We know that Comey supposedly commenced his investigtion of Trump based on that fake Dossier which was proved to be made out of whole cloth awhile ago. Supposedly also they already have gone through all the surveillance, right? Nothing to report when Congress asked. I wonder if Comey was keeping that ridiculous Trump/Russia investigation story alive believing that Trump wouldn’t have the nerve to fire him while he was supposedly being investigated. Or that he was in fact doing a little colluding himself with the Congressional Democrats to keep this stupid fairy tale alive.

      It would not surprise me in the least that some career people got in touch with Justice people and said that Comey was full of bull on this investigation and that’s why Sessions felt fine with recommending his firing. And I’m with eagles upstairs – and am willing to bet the evidence of Comey’s BS is in his computer and that’s why they made sure he was in no position to start doing a little “hard drive swiping” of his own. I imagine his computer was locked down hours before the announcement was made.


    16. coldwarrior
      17 | May 10, 2017 1:39 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      I wonder if Comey was keeping that ridiculous Trump/Russia investigation story alive believing that Trump wouldn’t have the nerve to fire him while he was supposedly being investigated. Or that he was in fact doing a little colluding himself with the Congressional Democrats to keep this stupid fairy tale alive.

      seems reasonable


    17. 18 | May 10, 2017 1:46 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      and am willing to bet the evidence of Comey’s BS is in his computer

      ROTFLMAO… Not his computer… Anthony Weiner’s Laptop, which is no doubt locked in the safe in Comey’s former office.


    18. 19 | May 10, 2017 2:34 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      Oh man – would it not be delicious to find out there are emails going back and forth between Lynch on Comey on how to handle the details of the Beastie’s malfeasance? And that Comey himself was obstructing. That he and Lynch concocted that whole July 2016 presser with the belief that the MSM would protect them from the conservative backlash? And that THOSE emails are on Weiner’s computer?

      I have this crazy feeling that a shitload of Democrats are going to get ass-kicked by this, which is why they are reacting so hysterically. Because even if Comey leaves, investigations will continue. Remember how PISSED the career field agents were over Comey’s July presser where they KNEW that there was evidence enough to indict Beastie and Comey and Lynch wouldn’t do it? If there was a real Russia investigation going and the new FBI Head tried to put the kabosh on it, you can bet there would be “deep state” folks at the FBI and DOJ that would leak it to the press.

      I think Dems are hysterical because the shit’s about to hit the fan when it comes to Obama et al. because Comey isn’t there to protect him. Have we heard any names floated out there. I think Sheriff David Clarke would be great. First BLACK head of the FBI!


    19. 20 | May 10, 2017 2:46 pm

      Boy, Comey’s not gettin’ ANY love from the FBI community:

      http://www.westernjournalism.com/former-fbi-assistant-directors-weigh-comeys-firing/

      Oh, and there are not one but TWO fake news stories on Comey making the rounds, courtesy of NYT and CNN

      CNN is also in hot water today after running a fake news story about Roger Stone, claiming he spoke to President Trump and advised him to fire FBI Director James Comey. President Trump and Roger Stone have called out the report as fake news.

      This story has been denied by both Stone and Trump as being patently false.

      The Department of Justice shot down a New York Times report Wednesday claiming days before President Donald Trump made the decision to fire FBI Director James Comey, he asked for increased funding and staff to aid the FBI’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the U.S. election.

      Fake news once again. These jerks will fall for anything! CHECK.YOUR.SOURCES.


    20. coldwarrior
      21 | May 10, 2017 3:03 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      fake news? i love that cutesy term. it is actually a lie, propaganda.


    21. coldwarrior
      22 | May 10, 2017 3:04 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      I think Dems are hysterical because the shit’s about to hit the fan when it comes to Obama et al. because Comey isn’t there to protect him.

      drain the swamp!


    22. 23 | May 10, 2017 3:05 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      Oh man – would it not be delicious to find out there are emails going back and forth between Lynch on Comey on how to handle the details of the Beastie’s malfeasance? And that Comey himself was obstructing.

      I do not think they will find anything like that on Wiener’s laptop. I suspect that what they will find, in its own way, is 100 times worse.

      Huma Abedin’s entire family are the top Senior Muslim Brotherhood leadership.

      I believe what they will find on Weiner’s laptop, are a series of Intel files on the most powerful members of the Deep State. Congressmen, Senators, Governor’s, Judges, Bureaucrats, Lobbyists.

      Files collected by Hillary over decades that Hillary used to claw her way to becoming the Democrat Presidential Candidate, that Hillary would have used to get her agenda advanced.

      Files that Huma fully intended to pass to her Muslim Brotherhood contacts to be used to advance the Islamic invasion of America agenda of the Muslim Brotherhood.

      In other words, Huma was a deep cover Muslim Brotherhood operative who burrowed her way into the Clinton Crime Syndicate for the purpose of espionage.

      Those files were transferred to Wiener’s laptop in anticipation of a Hillary win, for the sole and exclusive purpose of being smuggled/transmitted to her Muslim Brotherhood contacts to be used against the Clinton Administration and the Deep State.

      Exactly what those files contain, well, that’s almost anyone’s guess. But I would be willing to bet that amongst other things, those files prove that there really is a “#PizzaGate Pedophilia Ring” operating of which John Podesta and numerous very senior members of the Deep State are all members of.

      Because of what is likely contained in those files, I honestly doubt that more than 5% of the criminal activity contained in those files will ever be prosecuted.

      Something else to keep in mind.

      Valerie Jarrett=Shia Muslim
      Huma Abedin=Sunni Muslim

      So, yea, there is likely to be a shit load of highly incriminating evidence against Obama and his entire administration.


    23. 24 | May 10, 2017 3:12 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      These jerks will fall for anything! CHECK.YOUR.SOURCES.

      They are not falling for anything. This is a tried and true strategic tactic. In legal terms, its known as poisoning the well, in tactical terms its known as sowing dissent through disinformation.

      They know that the stories are false, they know that the stories will be refuted and proven false. That is not the point. The objective is to plant little seeds of confusion and distrust.

      This is a tactic created by the KGB back in the 1950’s and used to destabilize literally dozens of countries during the Cold War.


    24. 25 | May 10, 2017 3:20 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      But I am having the time of my life watching the libs in my office go all “woe is us! He’s as bad as Nixon! Worse!” and just smiling and saying “weren’t you all saying he should be fired back there in October?” Then they try to turn on me and say “YOU didn’t.”

      Au contraire, mes amis. I said flat out in July he should be removed for that ridiculous press conference he gave.


    25. eaglesoars
      26 | May 10, 2017 3:22 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      There is no evidence Jarrett is Muslim or sympathetic. She was born in Iran. That’s nothing. Her former father in law is sketchy but that says nothing about her.


    26. eaglesoars
      27 | May 10, 2017 3:25 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      Exactly what those files contain, well, that’s almost anyone’s guess.

      We DO know that Hillary’s computer carried SAP programs. Special Access. These are blacker than Black Ops and she did not have clearance for them. My guess is that the Clinton Foundation ‘access’ scam included access to the information from the SAP data


    27. 28 | May 10, 2017 4:42 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      That would not surprise me in the least. When Trump called her a “nasty” woman during the debate, that was the NICEST thing that could be said about her. There is nothing likable about this power-hungry bitch.

      Is it me or is Chelsea taking a lower profile lately? Wonder why.


    28. 29 | May 10, 2017 4:53 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      Is it me or is Chelsea taking a lower profile lately? Wonder why.

      My guess? She’s getting tired of having the living crap slapped out of her every time she opens her ignorant stupid piehole. I seriously doubt Chelsea is bright enough to suspect the trouble her mom and dad are in. Even if they told her point blank.


    29. 30 | May 10, 2017 5:17 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      Yep. They were trying to make her “happen” and found out the country was having none of it. I’m sure she was planning on running for public office – yeah, you do that, horse face. I’m sure you’ll have a lovely time explaining your million-dollar wedding paid out of Clinton Foundation funds vis-a-vis the Haitian embezzlement and oh yeah, that husband of yours blowing up people’s money investing in Greece.

      And James Patterson may want to re-think collaborating with Clinton on a book. I certainly won’t buy it unless there’s a disclaimer that all the profits of said book are going to help rebuild Haiti.


    30. eaglesoars
      31 | May 10, 2017 6:02 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      a disclaimer that all the profits of said book are going to help rebuild Haiti.

      If it said that, I’d call for a special prosecutor. The Clintons + money + Haiti = smoke


    31. eaglesoars
      32 | May 10, 2017 6:20 pm

      CW, did you see this?

      Common hard-to-treat brain disease starts in the GUT, study reveals

      CCM disease, which occurs in one in 100 people, causes stroke and seizures

      Tests on mice showed certain gut bacteria triggered the formation of clusters that cause these seizures

      Looking at human models it seems the same is true for people

      I don’t know if this will turn out to be part of it, but they’ve been using ketogenic diets for children w/severe epilepsy for years. That’s a zero-carb, medium chain triglyceride substitute (coconut oil, palm oil). They’ve just completed a study that shows it also works in dogs with cluster seizures (which is how I know about it)


    32. Aussie Infidel
      33 | May 10, 2017 10:24 pm

      Don’t let facts get in the way of a narrative:-

      Former President Barack Obama told those gathered at an agricultural conference that man-made global warming was already impacting agriculture on a global scale, shrinking crop yields and raising food prices.
      “Our changing climate is already making it more difficult to produce food,” Obama said at the Seeds & Chips conference in Milan, Italy Tuesday.
      “We’ve already seen shrinking yields and rising food prices,” the former president said in his first speech outside the U.S. since leaving office in January.
      In fact, 2016 was a record year for crop yields, which have basically doubled since 2007.
      Production of wheat, coarse grains and rice hit record levels in 2016, according to United Nations data . Cereal production is set to shrink 0.4 percent in 2017 “from the 2016 record high,” but “supplies are likely to remain large with next season’s cereal ending stocks remaining close to their record high opening levels,” the UN reports.
      As for food prices, they’re well below recent highs hit in 2010. UN data shows the inflation-adjusted food index — the average of five commodity price indices — is just below where it was in 1965. the food price index peaked around 1975.
      Obama pocketed more than $2.7 million for Tuesday’s speech on how agriculture is contributing to global warming.


    33. coldwarrior
      34 | May 10, 2017 10:25 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      there is something between the brain and the gut…people with gut problems a=often have psych issues as well.

      the correlation is very, very high…lots of allergies too.


    34. Aussie Infidel
      35 | May 10, 2017 10:27 pm

      Stephen Colbert’s “Late Show” audience initially cheered loudly on Tuesday at the announcement that President Trump fired FBI Director James Comey minutes earlier, visibly vexing the comedian.
      Presumably, the left-leaning audience thought this was positive news ever since Comey angered Democrats with his late-October letter to Congress announcing the discovery of emails related to Hillary Clinton’s email scandal. Clinton herself has cast blame on Comey for costing her the election.

      “Huge story that broke just minutes ago, less than 10 minutes ago. FBI Director James Comey has just been fired by Donald Trump,” Colbert said on his CBS show, as the crowd whooped and applauded.
      Colbert chuckled and looked confused, before joking, “Huge, huge Donald Trump fans here tonight.”
      Colbert, a fierce critic of Trump, went on to quip that Trump owed Comey a favor for helping him win the presidential election. He then explained why the firing was controversial: Comey was leading an FBI investigation into possible ties between the Russians and Trump’s campaign.
      Once Colbert announced Comey’s dismissal came at Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ recommendation, the crowd booed accordingly.

      The Colbert staffer who’s job it was to hold up the audience signs APPLAUSE or BOOS got confused and nobody noticed, as the audience weren’t bred for thinking but for noise making. Alas the staffer is now looking for a job that is not as complex and mentally taxing !

      🙂


    35. Aussie Infidel
      36 | May 10, 2017 10:28 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      there is something between the brain and the gut…people with gut problems a=often have psych issues as well.

      the correlation is very, very high…lots of allergies too.

      Lots of ‘Dimocrats’ have belly ache and it shows in their psychology!

      🙂


    36. Aussie Infidel
      38 | May 10, 2017 10:33 pm

      http://nypost.com/2017/05/09/sally-yates-was-the-real-blackmailer/

      BLACKMAILER Yates.

      Oh what a tangled web we weave ……. etc!

      🙂


    37. Aussie Infidel
      39 | May 10, 2017 10:35 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      This is the 31st day in 2017 that the sun has been without spots. Cumulatively, it adds up to an entire month of spotlessness–and it’s only May. For comparison, the sun was blank on 32 days in the whole of 2016. The accelerating pace of spotless suns is a sign that Solar Minimum is approaching.

      Brrrrrrrrrrrr

      That big hot thingie in the sky might even be the reason for ‘gerbal worming’

      🙂

      At least the guys still using HF radio will be having a clear run of good comms.

      🙂


    38. coldwarrior
      40 | May 10, 2017 10:37 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      That big hot thingie in the sky might even be the reason for ‘gerbal worming’

      now why would that enormous thermonuclear reactor that is 6 light minutes away from us have ANYTHING to do with how warm it is????

      😆


    39. Aussie Infidel
      41 | May 10, 2017 10:50 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      That big hot thingie in the sky might even be the reason for ‘gerbal worming’

      now why would that enormous thermonuclear reactor that is 6 light minutes away from us have ANYTHING to do with how warm it is????

      Yet to some ideologically challenged folks joining dots appears to be an impossible task.

      Poor snowflakes

      I ALMOST feel sorry for them

      NAHHHH!

      NOT REALLY!

      Heh !

      🙂


    40. coldwarrior
      42 | May 10, 2017 10:53 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      you cant tax and control the sun like you can tax and control people. hence, the sun is never to blame.


    41. Aussie Infidel
      43 | May 10, 2017 10:53 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:
      now why would that enormous thermonuclear reactor that is 6 light minutes away from us have ANYTHING to do with how warm it is????

      You’d be ripping your nighty about now if you’d invested many ‘shekels’ in a solar telescope about now.

      “Nothing to see here folks” Just a big orange ball.

      ” I want my money back”


    42. Aussie Infidel
      44 | May 10, 2017 10:54 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      you cant tax and control the sun like you can tax and control people. hence, the sun is never to blame.

      What do you mean you can’t tax the sun.

      I have one word!

      SOLYNDRA

      🙂


    43. coldwarrior
      45 | May 10, 2017 11:32 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      You’d be ripping your nighty about now if you’d invested many ‘shekels’ in a solar telescope about now.

      welllllll………

      😆


    44. coldwarrior
      46 | May 10, 2017 11:32 pm

      early tee time in the AM…later yinz!


    45. 47 | May 10, 2017 11:46 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      early tee time in the AM…later yinz!

      Wrong… When Russian Lady (aka future Babushka) Say’s, “Today we are having full schedule”, she is doing so using Russian definition of “Day” which is 72 and 3/4th hours long day…


    46. coldwarrior
      49 | May 11, 2017 8:15 am

      Support for Donald Trump has soared in Western Pennsylvania during the Republican’s presidency, and the region is the only area of the state where a majority of voters think he’s doing a good job, a new poll shows.

      A Franklin & Marshall College poll out Thursday shows that 60 percent of registered voters in northwestern Pennsylvania and southwestern Pennsylvania, excluding Allegheny County, approve of Trump’s job performance.

      bunch damned bitter clingers!


    47. 50 | May 11, 2017 8:49 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      now why would that enormous thermonuclear reactor that is 6 light minutes away from us have ANYTHING to do with how warm it is????

      Actually, it’s more like 8 1/2 light-minutes away….


    48. 51 | May 11, 2017 8:50 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      Mid-term elections are going to be interesting. Maybe more than usual.


    49. RIX
      52 | May 11, 2017 9:17 am

      Good morning. The Chicago Tribune has 8 anti- Trump Op-Ed pieces.
      They balance that with 0 pro-Trump pieces.


    50. coldwarrior
      53 | May 11, 2017 9:25 am

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      Mid-term elections are going to be interesting. Maybe more than usual.

      this is gonna be grrrreat!


    51. coldwarrior
      54 | May 11, 2017 9:28 am

      Deplorable Macker wrote:

      Actually, it’s more like 8 1/2 light-minutes away….

      close enough!


    52. coldwarrior
      55 | May 11, 2017 9:32 am

      RIX wrote:

      Good morning. The Chicago Tribune has 8 anti- Trump Op-Ed pieces.
      They balance that with 0 pro-Trump pieces.

      perfect!


    53. coldwarrior
      56 | May 11, 2017 9:34 am

      to paraphrase something i read:

      congress and the senate are like a crime gang, there are two families.

      the democrats who NEVER sell out one of their own.

      the republicans who will gladly sell out one of their own…chafetz and graham want investigations of trump???? really?


    54. RIX
      57 | May 11, 2017 9:44 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      Good morning. The Chicago Tribune has 8 anti- Trump Op-Ed pieces.
      They balance that with 0 pro-Trump pieces.

      perfect!

      It’s how they roll baby!


    55. 58 | May 11, 2017 9:48 am

      Deplorable Macker wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      now why would that enormous thermonuclear reactor that is 6 light minutes away from us have ANYTHING to do with how warm it is????

      Actually, it’s more like 8 1/2 light-minutes away….

      Meaning that when it blows up we won’t even have time to rev up the air conditioning……


    56. eaglesoars
      59 | May 11, 2017 9:51 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      the republicans who will gladly sell out one of their own…chafetz and graham want investigations of trump???? really?

      pfft. Tell the Republicans it’s time to go to the mattresses, they check their Sleep Number settings.

      Now here’s an interesting idea. The troll level would be Supreme Master of the Universe.

      The Case For Merrick Garland As FBI Director


    57. 61 | May 11, 2017 10:10 am

      I’m hearing Andrew McCarthy bandied about a little as new FBI Director. Thoughts, anyone?

      Oh, and BTW, see nothing that says the Russian investigation, which has produced NOTHING is being stalled or stopped. In fact, two subpoenas were issued in the investigation Tuesday or yesterday from what I understand.


    58. 62 | May 11, 2017 10:11 am

      FOUR…..


    59. 63 | May 11, 2017 10:12 am

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      I’m hearing Andrew McCarthy bandied about a little as new FBI Director. Thoughts, anyone?

      Oh, and BTW, see nothing that says the Russian investigation, which has produced NOTHING is being stalled or stopped. In fact, two subpoenas were issued in the investigation today from what I understand.

      Twitter is rocking hard with folks pushing Sheriff Clarke.


    60. eaglesoars
      64 | May 11, 2017 10:19 am

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      Thoughts, anyone?

      He’s a good investigator, but I’m not sure how he’d survive the D.C. political radiation chamber.


    61. 65 | May 11, 2017 10:23 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      Good question. I’d like to think he’d rise above it but I can see the Democrats calling him an Islamophobe in confirmation hearings.

      @ doriangrey:

      I think appointing Clarke would be delicious in so many ways. We can watch the Democrats squirm as they try to find reasons not to confirm the first BLACK man nominated to head the FBI.


    62. 66 | May 11, 2017 10:30 am

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      @ doriangrey:

      I think appointing Clarke would be delicious in so many ways. We can watch the Democrats squirm as they try to find reasons not to confirm the first BLACK man nominated to head the FBI.

      Plus the bonus, that Clarke has repeated said, if appointed director of the FBI his very first action would be…. To arrest Hillary Clinton.


    63. eaglesoars
      67 | May 11, 2017 10:38 am

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      the first BLACK man

      oh, Clarence Thomas brought them no shame, I don’t think Clarke would.


    64. 68 | May 11, 2017 10:50 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      True, but that was in the days when the only conservative voice was essentially Limbaugh. It might be interesting to see what social media would do to them. If nothing else, it would be fun to see him striding around the FBI offices wearing his cowboy hat.

      You know, I’m starting to wonder if SALLY YATES wasn’t the source of the damn leaks. And I’d sure as s**t would like to know why the press is given a pass as protecting criminal behavior.


    65. eaglesoars
      69 | May 11, 2017 11:07 am

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      SALLY YATES wasn’t the source of the damn leaks.

      she could not be that stupid. She has a lot to lose and she would absolutely lose it if caught.


    66. eaglesoars
      71 | May 11, 2017 12:34 pm

      Did yinz see the rumors yesterday that after Comey, Spicer might be next because he’s become so discomboobulated, WaPo has taken to describing him as hiding in the bushes?

      Yeah, no.

      EDITOR’S NOTE: This story has been updated to more precisely describe White House press secretary Sean Spicer’s location late Tuesday night in the minutes before he briefed reporters. Spicer huddled with his staff among bushes near television sets on the White House grounds, not quote “in the bushes,” as the story originally stated.

      I’m guessing Kelleyanne got somebody by the short hairs and yanked.


    67. coldwarrior
      72 | May 11, 2017 12:48 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      coldwarrior right this minute…

      more likethis the ast two days

      na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na…..


    68. coldwarrior
      73 | May 11, 2017 1:09 pm

      the world needs ditch diggers too

      😆


    69. 74 | May 11, 2017 1:12 pm

      Oh dear – looks like Democrat ally and acting director McCabe just blew every Democrat talking point straight out of the water while testifying in front of Congress today.

      http://www.weaselzippers.us/338294-breaking-acting-director-mccabe-says-trump-had-every-right-to-fire-comey/#more-338294

      Two interesting things have been learned – Trump has in no way tried to impede the so-called Russia investigation and Bureau agents were pissed as HELL about Comey’s handling of the Clinton email crime.


    70. lobo91
      75 | May 11, 2017 1:13 pm

      In the last 50 years of culture wars in America, there has been no stronger weapon than guilt. It is the Left’s great hammer of progress. It figured powerfully in the Civil Rights Movement, the anti-war movement, women’s liberation, and same-sex marriage. Guilt runs through the teaching of U.S. history from 5th grade through college. It colors controversies over affirmative action, transgender bathrooms, and the glass ceiling. The entire careers of Leftist commentators from the self-righteous Bill Moyers to the self-regarding Ta-Nehisi Coates rest upon it. If we add up the successes guilt has brought to progressive causes and identity politics, we realize just how important guilt is to the Left agenda. Without it, in fact, the Left fails.

      Which brings us back to Donald Trump. Why do people hate him so?

      Because he won’t accept this appointed condition. He has no white guilt. He doesn’t feel any male guilt, either, or American guilt or Christian guilt. He talks about the United States with uncritical approval—“America First”—and that’s a thought crime in the eyes of liberals. It ignores slavery, Jim Crow, the Indian wars, Manzanar . . . Donald Trump would never refer to America as beset by the original sin of racism, as Barack Obama did frequently, and that makes him worse than a conservative. President Trump is a bigot.

      Read it all, as they say…


    71. coldwarrior
    72. 77 | May 11, 2017 1:18 pm

      New name in the FBI Director derby: Trey Gowdy.
      Oh dear, that could cause Beastie to need a new Depends.


    73. coldwarrior
      78 | May 11, 2017 1:24 pm

      @ lobo91:

      i quit being ‘guilty’ years ago.

      america is the pinnacle of wetern civ, judeo-christian wester civ is far superior to anything else, either embrace it or not.

      if you dont, feel free to be a failure elsewhere.


    74. 79 | May 11, 2017 1:26 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      Yeah, we’re such an awful place that people are risking their lives to get here.


    75. coldwarrior
      80 | May 11, 2017 1:26 pm

      bought and paid for by the CoC

      Republican U.S. Senators John McCain and Ben Sasse said on Wednesday they would vote against President Donald Trump’s nominee for U.S. trade representative, Robert Lighthizer, because of his opposition to the North American Free Trade Agreement.

      “Unfortunately, your confirmation process has failed to reassure us that you understand the North American Free Trade Agreement’s (NAFTA) positive economic benefits to our respective States and the nation as a whole,” McCain and Sasse said in a letter to Lighthizer.


    76. coldwarrior
      81 | May 11, 2017 1:31 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:

      Yeah, we’re such an awful place that people are risking their lives to get here.

      i was shown the light by a nigerian polisci prof in the late 90’s. i ended up taking most of his african classes because he was a great lecturer and they would cross feed my history minor.

      the class was african liberation movements and i was one of two whites in the class of 20. the rest were typical black american wanna be revolutionaries and agitators. the prof blew these guys out of the water repeatedly and would tell them to:

      study hard and be successful and be very thankful that you live in america and not in africa!

      this is where i first saw the real animosity between black americans and black africans. they LOATHE each other.

      i thank that prof for showing me the light so many years ago.


    77. lobo91
      82 | May 11, 2017 1:38 pm

      Democrat Senator Wants Mandated Diversity in Congress

      The Senate’s first Latina, Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto, is also the first female senator to suggest diversity quotas in place of democratic selection for members of Congress.

      The liberal senator, who won former Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid’s old Nevada seat, made her comments during an appearance on Politico’s “Women Rule” series of podcasts.

      “We should be mandating diversity in our committees, mandating diversity in our hiring practices, mandating diversity throughout the United States Senate,” Cortez Masto said. “You just have to walk in the room and look at the senators that are there — the 100 senators, right? You could see the lack of diversity,” said Cortez Masto during her interview.

      “I want to see diversity at all levels, not just here in the Senate amongst the staff,” Cortez Masto said. “I think those are important areas for us to focus on that diversity because it’s also succession planning. Those individuals can go on to run for statewide office or a federal office at some point in time.”

      Cortez Masto’s comments exemplify the progressive left’s fixation with diversity as an outcome worthy of government intervention. This year’s contest for the DNC leadership saw one candidate, Sally Boynton, tell her audience that “my job is to shut other white people down.”


    78. 83 | May 11, 2017 1:50 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      New name in the FBI Director derby: Trey Gowdy.
      Oh dear, that could cause Beastie to need a new Depends.

      I would like to very respectfully disagree. Gowdy has been all talk, and ZERO action. He is certified GOP Establishment Elite. The “Beasties” would love to have Gowdy as FBI’s new Director, because he would be able to find even less intent to commit a crime in statutes that have zero intent clause than Comey did.

      Now, Sheriff Clarke, that would be a whole different ball game. Dems might actually start committing unassisted Arkancide.


    79. 84 | May 11, 2017 1:56 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      this is where i first saw the real animosity between black americans and black africans. they LOATHE each other.

      ROTFLMAO… “Loath” is… such a paltry pasty description… Usually there is a lot of pants wetting and soiling on the part of African-American’s when Actual Black African’s articulate their position on this subject.

      Yes, I have witnessed said conversations first hand.


    80. 85 | May 11, 2017 2:00 pm

      @ lobo91:

      Do these idiots ever READ the Constituion before they swear to uphold it?


    81. lobo91
      86 | May 11, 2017 2:00 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      What is it, exactly, that you believe Gowdy should have done differently, given the fact that prosecutions are an executive branch function?


    82. lobo91
      87 | May 11, 2017 2:02 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      @ lobo91:

      Do these idiots ever READ the Constituion before they swear to uphold it?

      Don’t assume that they can read…


    83. RIX
      88 | May 11, 2017 2:04 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ RIX:

      Trump should start tweeting about McCain’s complicity in acquiring the ‘golden showers’ dossier and feeding it to the FBI.

      “McCain is disappointed that fake Russia memo he went to London to get and gave to the FBI is more FAKE NEWS”

      Is that around 140 characters?

      McCain is a nasty old ooot.


    84. RIX
      89 | May 11, 2017 2:05 pm

      @ lobo91:
      The Senate’s first Latina, Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto, is also the first female senator to suggest diversity quotas in place of democratic selection for members of Congress.

      It’s hard to believe that an adult that is not Maxine Waters could think this way.


    85. coldwarrior
      90 | May 11, 2017 2:10 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      i watched a nigerian surgeon rip apart a room full of ‘black’ leadersat the hilton in pgh a few years ago.

      tore.them.a.new.ass


    86. lobo91
      91 | May 11, 2017 2:10 pm

      @ RIX:

      Remember Bill Clinton’s pick to head the DOJ Civil Rights division, Lani Guinier?

      She suggested the same thing 25 years ago. Main reason she didn’t get the job


    87. coldwarrior
      92 | May 11, 2017 2:11 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      @ doriangrey:

      What is it, exactly, that you believe Gowdy should have done differently, given the fact that prosecutions are an executive branch function?

      which is shy i wonder what the point of these kabuki theater investigations are.


    88. lobo91
      93 | May 11, 2017 2:15 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      which is shy i wonder what the point of these kabuki theater investigations are.

      In theory, anyway, the idea is to bring issues to light so that the appropriate executive branch agencies can deal with them.

      Doesn’t work so well in practice, especially when the executive branch is controlled by a crime syndicate like it was for the last 8 years


    89. 94 | May 11, 2017 2:29 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      @ doriangrey:

      What is it, exactly, that you believe Gowdy should have done differently, given the fact that prosecutions are an executive branch function?

      Pushed for a Special Prosecutor. With a GOP Speaker, House and Senate Majorities it was more than just doable.


    90. coldwarrior
      95 | May 11, 2017 2:30 pm

      this just came across my infectious disease feed from work in the past few eeks…

      50 cases of measles in Minneapolis since april 48 of them are somali.

      210 cases of active TB in MN, 206 are immigrant (both legal and illegal)

      TB, whooing cough, and mumps outbreak in TN

      so, these…these internal feeds lack any left wing crap as they are used to alert the first line medical types so we can accurately asses the pt that is in front of us.


    91. lobo91
      96 | May 11, 2017 2:31 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      lobo91 wrote:

      @ doriangrey:

      What is it, exactly, that you believe Gowdy should have done differently, given the fact that prosecutions are an executive branch function?

      Pushed for a Special Prosecutor. With a GOP Speaker, House and Senate Majorities it was more than just doable.

      Nope. The appointment of Special Prosecutors falls under DOJ. The Independent Counsel statute expired years ago.


    92. 97 | May 11, 2017 2:32 pm

      @ RIX:

      I’m starting to think the Senator Jerk from Arizona is planning to challenge Trump in 2020 and that all this baiting by him is laying the groundwork for it. I have a feeling, like I said yesterday, that his involvement in the whole “dossier” business has far more sinister overtones to it than he’d like us to believe. He got that dossier for the express purpose of destroying Trump and must have been more than a little annoyed when the media and other agencies didn’t publish is right away and, indeed, tried to substantiate the claims. When they couldn’t, McCain had to realize he was going to look like the POS he really was and then tried to spin this whole “protection” narrative.


    93. 98 | May 11, 2017 2:33 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      It was never doable. Holder and Lynch would never have appointed one.


    94. 99 | May 11, 2017 2:34 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      @ RIX:

      Remember Bill Clinton’s pick to head the DOJ Civil Rights division, Lani Guinier?

      She suggested the same thing 25 years ago. Main reason she didn’t get the job

      As I remember, she was referred to as the “Quota Queen.”


    95. 100 | May 11, 2017 2:37 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:

      which is shy i wonder what the point of these kabuki theater investigations are.

      In theory, anyway, the idea is to bring issues to light so that the appropriate executive branch agencies can deal with them.

      Doesn’t work so well in practice, especially when the executive branch is controlled by a crime syndicate like it was for the last 8 years

      That’s pretty much it. While certainly the MSM spun these hearings as a “waste of time and money” etc., etc., it WAS showing Middle America the workings of the Swamp. What Dems in Congress still failed to realize is that the narrative they spin is not the be-all and end-all of the story. Limbaugh has a bigger audience for “news” than ANY of these clowns. Add to that Hannity, Wilkow, Levin, Savage, Webb, and the real story is reaching people. The hearings, to me, were able to show some aspects of the face of the Swamp that needed to be drained.


    96. 101 | May 11, 2017 2:43 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      The Independent Counsel statute expired years ago.

      The the GOP could have passed another one any time since 2013. That is one of the “Constitutionally Mandated Power’s” that congress has. The GOP never did anything, not because they couldn’t, but because they did not want to.


    97. lobo91
      102 | May 11, 2017 2:45 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      The the GOP could have passed another one any time since 2013. That is one of the “Constitutionally Mandated Power’s” that congress has. The GOP never did anything, not because they couldn’t, but because they did not want to.

      And Obama would have just vetoed it.


    98. lobo91
      103 | May 11, 2017 2:46 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      @ doriangrey:

      It was never doable. Holder and Lynch would never have appointed one.

      Correct


    99. 104 | May 11, 2017 2:56 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      @ doriangrey:

      The the GOP could have passed another one any time since 2013. That is one of the “Constitutionally Mandated Power’s” that congress has. The GOP never did anything, not because they couldn’t, but because they did not want to.

      And Obama would have just vetoed it.

      Are you forgetting that Congress can override a Presidential veto? Sitting in committee right now. https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/5271 Congress could force it through in a matter of hours if the GOP were not part and parcel of the UniParty.


    100. eaglesoars
      105 | May 11, 2017 3:07 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      corbyn just murdered what was left of labour

      “we are stronger when we stand together”

      Hillary’s new domicile. I swear, Maggie is going to rise up from her grave and whack him with her handbag


    101. eaglesoars
      106 | May 11, 2017 3:14 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      The Senate’s first Latina, Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto, is also the first female senator to suggest diversity quotas in place of democratic selection for members of Congress.

      It would be interesting to see what the makeup of her staff is.


    102. coldwarrior
      108 | May 11, 2017 3:18 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      corbyn just murdered what was left of labour

      “we are stronger when we stand together”

      Hillary’s new domicile. I swear, Maggie is going to rise up from her grave and whack him with her handbag

      labour is dead.

      so are the dems here. the mid terms are going to be an ass beating


    103. eaglesoars
      109 | May 11, 2017 3:18 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      I have a feeling, like I said yesterday, that his involvement in the whole “dossier” business has far more sinister overtones to it than he’d like us to believe.

      Well, I believe it was Jeb!’s people who first hired Steele to do op research (not Hillary as is often reported). McCain has set up an institute called – ta da! – the McCain institute and those are always good places for money laundering. Might want to look at the board of directors and see what, if any, Bush connections might be there.

      Just a thought


    104. coldwarrior
      110 | May 11, 2017 3:19 pm

      WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The U.S. government had a $182 billion budget surplus in April, confounding market expectations for a deficit, according to Treasury Department data released on Wednesday.


    105. eaglesoars
      111 | May 11, 2017 3:22 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      If I were Miss Corinne and I had stolen that kind of money, the first thing I’d do is get my face fixed. That mug has been making trains take dirt roads for generations.

      But that’s just me


    106. eaglesoars
      112 | May 11, 2017 3:23 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      the mid terms are going to be an ass beating

      not if the Rs fuck up health care reform


    107. 113 | May 11, 2017 3:31 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      I wouldn’t put it past JEB! to have done that. The minute he saw Trump as a credible threat (and I have no doubt he believed going in he was going to be “coronated” (tm Limbaugh) as the nominee as much as Hillary did and became astounded when this “Reality Star” was using him for Whack a Mole in the primaries.


    108. 114 | May 11, 2017 3:33 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      I knew what party she belonged to without even LOOKING at the Article.


    109. coldwarrior
      115 | May 11, 2017 3:39 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      not if the Rs fuck up health care reform

      aint gonna matter.


    110. lobo91
      116 | May 11, 2017 3:45 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      Are you forgetting that Congress can override a Presidential veto? Sitting in committee right now.

      Are you forgetting the makeup of Congress?

      No way they’d get 2/3rds of them to vote for anything


    111. coldwarrior
      117 | May 11, 2017 3:47 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:

      not if the Rs fuck up health care reform

      aint gonna matter.

      the map looks horrible for the dems this go around


    112. 118 | May 11, 2017 3:51 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      What would be wonderful is to see GOP get 61 in the Senate. Then Schmucky can go to his safe space and bay at the moon. And maybe McConnell will get to take a back bench for a change.

      I just don’t think the country will give either house back to the Democrats. There is no way this country wants Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House again, and they sure as hell don’t want Schmucky in charge of the Senate. IIRC, 22 DEMOCRATS are up for re-election to the Senate this time, and I believe the count was over half of them came from Districts that went for Trump.

      Edited because there are already 60 in the HOUSE.


    113. coldwarrior
      119 | May 11, 2017 4:02 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      the dems have moved too far in to the globalists socialist camp. they are stuck in urban areas the map is horrible for them


    114. eaglesoars
      120 | May 11, 2017 4:32 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      the dems have moved too far in to the globalists socialist camp. they are stuck in urban areas the map is horrible for them

      I have total faith in the Republicans’ God-given talent to fuck up a one-car funeral.


    115. coldwarrior
      121 | May 11, 2017 4:48 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      I have total faith in the Republicans’ God-given talent to fuck up a one-car funeral.

      oh, they will manage to win bigly and THEN screw it up later


    116. coldwarrior
      122 | May 11, 2017 5:00 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      the dems have moved too far in to the globalists socialist camp. they are stuck in urban areas the map is horrible for them

      I have total faith in the Republicans’ God-given talent to fuck up a one-car funeral.

      coldwarrior wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:

      I have total faith in the Republicans’ God-given talent to fuck up a one-car funeral.

      oh, they will manage to win bigly and THEN screw it up later

      and the reason that that is is that they are not a separate party from the democrats, they are just a different crime family.


    117. 123 | May 11, 2017 5:24 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      coldwarrior

      Man, it is starting to get ugly up in here. I just found a box in my closet. Full of clean, folded cloths that hasn’t seen the light of day in 16 years, also just remembered how much I used to love sweaters, found 20 of them collecting dust hanging in there as well.


    118. 124 | May 11, 2017 5:26 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      Oh yea, 2 old CRT monitors, a 286 box, a 486 box, a original Pentium Pro box, and a old Pentium II box. Plus one broken computer desk chair.


    119. coldwarrior
      125 | May 11, 2017 5:41 pm

      @ doriangrey:
      @ doriangrey:

      damn!


    120. eaglesoars
      126 | May 11, 2017 5:44 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      a 486 box,

      so one day at work we were doing some research and couldn’t figure out some stuff about how the satellite transmissions worked and got the bright idea to call the guys at NASA/Goddard. They were great, walked us thru the entire process, answered all our questions, asked the questions we didn’t think of, and in the course of conversation they told us the computers they were sending up weren’t state-of-the-art stuff we would have to wait 10 yrs for but 486 processors they got off the shelf at – wait for it – Radio Shack.

      We went REALLY quiet. Then we offered to hold a bake sale for them.

      Turns out they bought the basics off the shelf and then modified them accordingly, e.g., everything had to be hardened to withstand the radiation hits, etc.

      One of the more entertaining work days I’ve ever had.


    121. 127 | May 11, 2017 6:00 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ doriangrey:
      @ doriangrey:

      damn!

      And this years hits just keep coming.


    122. lobo91
      128 | May 11, 2017 6:13 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      You’d be amazed at how antiquated some of the embedded systems used in military equipment (especially aircraft) are.

      For example, the flight control computers used in the F-15 were the same ones used in the Space Shuttle. Sounds impressive until you realize that the ones in the Shuttle were designed in the late- ’60s. They basically operate on the “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” principle.

      The Air Force did finally get around to upgrading the electronics in the F-15 fleet, BTW. Now it’s state-of-the-art 1993.


    123. eaglesoars
      129 | May 11, 2017 6:17 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      Now it’s state-of-the-art 1993.

      I’ve been reading about the systems on the F-35. I have no idea how they think that thing is going to be long-term, it’s WAY to complex.


    124. coldwarrior
      130 | May 11, 2017 6:19 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      they were sending up weren’t state-of-the-art stuff we would have to wait 10 yrs for but 486 processors they got off the shelf at – wait for it – Radio Shack.

      those arent effected by cosmic radiation like the newest stuff is


    125. coldwarrior
      131 | May 11, 2017 6:23 pm

      lighthizer confirmed as USTR…mccain, gardner, sasse vote no.

      lighthizer was attorney for the us steel concerns fighting against dumping…yinz know, that illegal dumping of steel an american shores that our free trade masturbaters just lloooove so much.


    126. 132 | May 11, 2017 6:25 pm

      Hmm, what do you know, just found my old Aria Pro II SL stuffed in the corner. Poor thing needs a new neck.


    127. lobo91
      133 | May 11, 2017 6:26 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      I’ve been reading about the systems on the F-35. I have no idea how they think that thing is going to be long-term, it’s WAY to complex.

      Most of the problems with the F-35 program have been software-related. That’s why the onboard cannon doesn’t work yet, for example. They haven’t finished the software to make it work.

      And they wonder why we refuse to be required to purchase “smart guns”…


    128. coldwarrior
      134 | May 11, 2017 6:28 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      Poor thing needs a new neck.

      OUCH!


    129. eaglesoars
      135 | May 11, 2017 6:30 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      Hmm, what do you know, just found my old Aria Pro II SL stuffed in the corner. Poor thing needs a new neck.

      that’s quite a closet you’ve got there.

      lobo91 wrote:

      And they wonder why we refuse to be required to purchase “smart guns”…

      even if I could write the code myself, I wouldn’t have one


    130. eaglesoars
      136 | May 11, 2017 6:32 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      mccain, gardner, sasse vote no.

      didn’t mcPainInTheAss say something like he doesn’t think Trump understands the benefits of NAFTA to people in his state – or something just as pompous?


    131. 137 | May 11, 2017 6:34 pm

      @ lobo91:

      Yet Dan Rather, Mary Mapes and CBS wanted you to believe that a TANG field commander had a State of the Art typesetting machine in his cluttered office in 1972.


    132. coldwarrior
      138 | May 11, 2017 6:34 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      mccain, gardner, sasse vote no.

      didn’t mcPainInTheAss say something like he doesn’t think Trump understands the benefits of NAFTA to people in his state – or something just as pompous?

      i try not to listen to that traitorous bilge pump.


    133. coldwarrior
      139 | May 11, 2017 6:38 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      @ lobo91:

      Yet Dan Rather, Mary Mapes and CBS wanted you to believe that a TANG field commander had a State of the Art typesetting machine in his cluttered office in 1972.

      fake news


    134. 140 | May 11, 2017 6:42 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      doriangrey wrote:

      Poor thing needs a new neck.

      OUCH!

      Yea, Cliff broke the neck years ago, and I just never got around to having it replaced. Probably cost around $125.00 or so to replace. Not a particularly difficult repaid job.


    135. 141 | May 11, 2017 6:43 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      that’s quite a closet you’ve got there.

      I’ve been stuffing stuff in it for 16 years and forgetting about it.


    136. 142 | May 11, 2017 6:47 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      doriangrey wrote:

      Poor thing needs a new neck.

      OUCH!

      It a black version of this.


    137. coldwarrior
      143 | May 11, 2017 6:48 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      I’ve been stuffing stuff in it for 16 years and forgetting about it.

      the psychoanalysts would have a ball with that!

      😆


    138. 144 | May 11, 2017 6:55 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      doriangrey wrote:

      I’ve been stuffing stuff in it for 16 years and forgetting about it.

      the psychoanalysts would have a ball with that!

      ROTFLMAO… Prolly give them nightmares…


    139. 145 | May 11, 2017 6:59 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      doriangrey wrote:

      I’ve been stuffing stuff in it for 16 years and forgetting about it.

      the psychoanalysts would have a ball with that!

      Reached 25 pair of blue jeans I’m throwing out, and quit counting.


    140. lobo91
      146 | May 11, 2017 7:02 pm

      Democrat Refers to Middle America as ‘Podunk, USA’

      A Democratic lawmaker from California referred to Middle America as “Podunk, USA,” during a committee meeting last week, several sources inside the meeting told the Washington Free Beacon.

      Remarks by Rep. Anna Eshoo (D., Calif.) during a closed-door Energy and Commerce Committee meeting with Federal Communications Commission Chairman Ajit Pai raised eyebrows from those present.

      The moment occurred when Eshoo pushed back against Pai when he was discussing expanding broadband access to rural areas.

      Pai said that eliminating Title II net neutrality rules would benefit places he has traveled to, such as Parsons, Kan., Elverson, Pa., and Cadillac, Mich.

      Sources inside the meeting told the Free Beacon that Eshoo was frustrated with Pai’s comments. She wished out loud that Pai would stop talking about “Podunk, USA” and instead be more concerned about the venture capitalists on Sand Hill Road in her district near Palo Alto, according to the sources.

      Many in the room reacted negatively to Eshoo’s remarks, sources said. A member who represents a flyover state did not appreciate the term “Podunk,” which means a small, unimportant town, and said districts in Middle America are just as important as those in Silicon Valley.

      Eshoo’s office declined to comment.


    141. eaglesoars
      147 | May 11, 2017 7:10 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      Reached 25 pair of blue jeans I’m throwing out, and quit counting.

      are you kidding? There are TONS of charitable orgs that pick stuff up. Big Brothers Big Sisters is one, you should check. Goodwill just sells it to Pakistan to be turned into rags, but Salvation Army might like them.


    142. 148 | May 11, 2017 7:11 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      Remarks by Rep. Anna Eshoo (D., Calif.) during a closed-door Energy and Commerce Committee meeting with Federal Communications Commission Chairman Ajit Pai raised eyebrows from those present.

      She’s an imbecile, especially after Jerry Moonbeam willfully, intentionally and with a full forethought of malice sabotaged the San Onofree Nuclear Power Facility and stuck California residents with $150 Billion Dollar bill for his doing it.


    143. 149 | May 11, 2017 7:12 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Yea, sorry, wrong state of mind to even consider something like that.


    144. 150 | May 11, 2017 7:16 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      Yea, sorry, wrong state of mind to even consider something like that.

      Besides, these are not gently pre-owned, these are used and abused old jeans.


    145. 151 | May 11, 2017 7:27 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      I remember she was all over Twitter talking about how she will NEVER support or vote for Gorsuch for the Supreme Court and her idiot sycophants were praising her to high heaven for her “principled stand” and to “stay strong”. And someone stepped in and called her a grandstanding nincompoop since she’s in the House and has no effing SAY in whether Gorsuch is confirmed.


    146. eaglesoars
      152 | May 11, 2017 7:27 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      Besides, these are not gently pre-owned, these are used and abused old jeans.

      ok, then, Goodwill it is!


    147. eaglesoars
      153 | May 11, 2017 7:28 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      Besides, these are not gently pre-owned, these are used and abused old jeans.

      OH WAIT!! NORDSTROMS! They’re selling jeans with plastic mud for $425!! You could make a killing underselling them by $25!!


    148. lobo91
      154 | May 11, 2017 7:47 pm

      Olbermann Calls On Foreign Intelligence Services to Overthrow the U.S. Government. Really.

      Trump’s firing of FBI director James Comey certainly raises a lot of questions. However, the two salient facts here remain: The Trump-Russia investigation isn’t going away, and not even the FBI disagrees that it was within the Trump’s power to fire a man who serves at the pleasure of the president. In fact, by firing Comey so abruptly, Trump may have breathed new life into the investigation. One of the golden rules of Washington still applies here: Never assume malevolence when incompetence will suffice as an explanation.

      Nonetheless, there is an emerging strain of thought in the fever swamps of the left that not running around with your hair on fire at right now is the hallmark of a collaborator. To that end, I present Keith Olbermann’s latest rant, in which the former MSNBC host calls on foreign intelligence agencies—including, incredibly, the Russian GRU—to help overthrow the U.S. government. Ostensibly, this is to save us from “a coup” presently under way by “the greatest threat to the freedoms of this nation that this nation has ever faced, the Trump administration, the Trump junta.” Even for Olbermann, this is pretty Olbermann.


    149. Aussie Infidel
      155 | May 11, 2017 7:56 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:

      they were sending up weren’t state-of-the-art stuff we would have to wait 10 yrs for but 486 processors they got off the shelf at – wait for it – Radio Shack.

      those arent effected by cosmic radiation like the newest stuff is

      Of course the Russians can always do you one better when it comes to using old stuff. The MiG 25 used tubes that still worked fine even when zapped with massive doses of EM radiation!

      🙂


    150. Aussie Infidel
      156 | May 11, 2017 7:57 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      doriangrey wrote:

      I’ve been stuffing stuff in it for 16 years and forgetting about it.

      the psychoanalysts would have a ball with that!

      Reached 25 pair of blue jeans I’m throwing out, and quit counting.

      …. and I bet you they’ve ALL SHRUNK
      … and you can’t get into them anymore.

      HEH!

      🙂


    151. Aussie Infidel
      157 | May 11, 2017 8:00 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      doriangrey wrote:

      Besides, these are not gently pre-owned, these are used and abused old jeans.

      OH WAIT!! NORDSTROMS! They’re selling jeans with plastic mud for $425!! You could make a killing underselling them by $25!!

      I might go into the pre-soiling jeans business!

      I’m an expert!

      🙂


    152. 158 | May 11, 2017 8:00 pm

      @ lobo91:

      Clearly Olbermann thinks he is being cute. I wonder how cute he would think himself IF AG Sessions actually had the testicles to Prosecute him under 18 US Code Chapter 115, Section 2385. The Democrats aren’t just delusional, they are TREASONOUS.


    153. 159 | May 11, 2017 8:07 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      doriangrey wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      doriangrey wrote:

      I’ve been stuffing stuff in it for 16 years and forgetting about it.

      the psychoanalysts would have a ball with that!

      Reached 25 pair of blue jeans I’m throwing out, and quit counting.

      …. and I bet you they’ve ALL SHRUNK
      … and you can’t get into them anymore.

      HEH!

      Nope, they didn’t shrink. I went from a 30 waist, to a 34. It happened somewhere around my 50th birthday. Considering I’m 6’1″ and 200lbs a 34 waist aint all that bad.


    154. Aussie Infidel
      160 | May 11, 2017 8:26 pm

      @ doriangrey:
      I deny your reality and insist that jeans shrink as a consequence of age!

      HEH!

      🙂


    155. lobo91
      161 | May 11, 2017 8:31 pm

      Someone call Maxine Waters! They’ve finally found something Trump is sure to be impeached over!

      Media Freaking Out That Trump Gets 2 Scoops Of Ice Cream. Really.

      Today much of the media have spent the day freaking out over a Time magazine feature on how President Donald Trump spends his time “after hours.”

      A portion of the 3,803 word-long article that’s been getting so much attention from Twitter accounts with blue check marks describes Trump dining in the Blue Room of the White House.

      The waiters know well Trump’s personal preferences. As he settles down, they bring him a Diet Coke, while the rest of us are served water, with the Vice President sitting at one end of the table. With the salad course, Trump is served what appears to be Thousand Island dressing instead of the creamy vinaigrette for his guests. When the chicken arrives, he is the only one given an extra dish of sauce. At the dessert course, he gets two scoops of vanilla ice cream with his chocolate cream pie, instead of the single scoop for everyone else. The tastes of Pence are also tended to. Instead of the pie, he gets a fruit plate.


    156. Aussie Infidel
      162 | May 11, 2017 8:31 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      Just e-mailed you a potential blog post topic that will make you crack a smile.

      Cheers mate

      🙂


    157. 163 | May 11, 2017 8:36 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      @ doriangrey:
      I deny your reality and insist that jeans shrink as a consequence of age!

      HEH!

      ROTFLMAO… I weighed 140lbs until I was in my late 30’s. By my mid 40’s I had crept up to 165. Somewhere around 50 I finally hit 200lbs. (I actually have to weigh myself with my pants on to really be 200lbs) I’m not complaining mind you, 200 looks pretty good on me. Well, at least I think so. You could ask coldwarrior if you need a second opinion.


    158. Aussie Infidel
      164 | May 11, 2017 8:36 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      Someone call Maxine Waters! They’ve finally found something Trump is sure to be impeached over!

      Media Freaking Out That Trump Gets 2 Scoops Of Ice Cream. Really.

      Today much of the media have spent the day freaking out over a Time magazine feature on how President Donald Trump spends his time “after hours.”

      A portion of the 3,803 word-long article that’s been getting so much attention from Twitter accounts with blue check marks describes Trump dining in the Blue Room of the White House.

      The waiters know well Trump’s personal preferences. As he settles down, they bring him a Diet Coke, while the rest of us are served water, with the Vice President sitting at one end of the table. With the salad course, Trump is served what appears to be Thousand Island dressing instead of the creamy vinaigrette for his guests. When the chicken arrives, he is the only one given an extra dish of sauce. At the dessert course, he gets two scoops of vanilla ice cream with his chocolate cream pie, instead of the single scoop for everyone else. The tastes of Pence are also tended to. Instead of the pie, he gets a fruit plate.

      No doubt this is how the Roman Empire ended also.

      Linus ‘bagging’ Augustus for hogging the swallows’ tongue pate and complaining how hard it is getting good slave labour to de-seed grapes.

      🙂


    159. RIX
      165 | May 11, 2017 8:37 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      @ RIX:

      Remember Bill Clinton’s pick to head the DOJ Civil Rights division, Lani Guinier?

      She suggested the same thing 25 years ago. Main reason she didn’t get the job

      I had forgotten that, good point.


    160. 166 | May 11, 2017 8:37 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      I’m thinking 50 is where my metabolism finally slowed down.


    161. eaglesoars
      167 | May 11, 2017 8:38 pm

      @ lobo91:

      watch Ben & Jerry put out a peach ice cream and call it “Im-Peach”


    162. RIX
      168 | May 11, 2017 8:39 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      Mate the Media is deep into insanity.


    163. 169 | May 11, 2017 8:40 pm

      RIX wrote:

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      Mate the Media is deep into insanity.

      Maybe? Does the Pope wear a funny hat?


    164. 170 | May 11, 2017 8:41 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      Mate the Media is deep into insanity.

      Maybe? Does the Pope wear a funny hat?

      Oops, sorry, to much blood in my beer system, thought you said Maybe, not Mate.


    165. 171 | May 11, 2017 8:44 pm

      Oh… and in case you guys have never seen any of this guys stuff. (coldwarrior should do a few post on him) Isaac Arthur.


    166. RIX
      172 | May 11, 2017 9:07 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      Mate the Media is deep into insanity.

      Maybe? Does the Pope wear a funny hat?

      I think so.


    167. RIX
      173 | May 11, 2017 9:08 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      doriangrey wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      Mate the Media is deep into insanity.

      Maybe? Does the Pope wear a funny hat?

      Oops, sorry, to much blood in my beer system, thought you said Maybe, not Mate.

      Ain’t a thang!


    168. AZfederalist
      174 | May 11, 2017 9:17 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      oh, Clarence Thomas brought them no shame, I don’t think Clarke would.

      Because he’s not really black. He’s a conservative.


    169. 175 | May 11, 2017 9:19 pm

      @ doriangrey:
      Someone might use them for a craft


    170. AZfederalist
      176 | May 11, 2017 9:43 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      For example, the flight control computers used in the F-15 were the same ones used in the Space Shuttle. Sounds impressive until you realize that the ones in the Shuttle were designed in the late- ’60s. They basically operate on the “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” principle.

      Problem is, when you make changes, you then have to re-qualify the system. That means proving out every system over the flight envelope, demonstrate the ability to interface with all weapon systems, etc.

      Extremely (10’s to 100’s of millions of dollars) expensive. The money just isn’t there.


    171. 177 | May 11, 2017 9:47 pm

      @ doriangrey:
      I’m 5’7. Wish I had a 34 waist. Or weighed 200 pounds.


    172. AZfederalist
      178 | May 11, 2017 9:53 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      the Russian GRU—to help overthrow the U.S. government. Ostensibly, this is to save us from “a coup” presently under way by “the greatest threat to the freedoms of this nation that this nation has ever faced, the Trump administration, the Trump junta.” Even for Olbermann, this is pretty Olbermann.

      OK, let me get this straight. Olberman wants Russia to help overthrow the US government because on of the things the so-called Trump junta did was collude with Russia to get elected.

      Alrighty then. That wins the prize for dumb@$$ of the day


    173. 179 | May 11, 2017 9:55 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ doriangrey:
      I’m 5’7. Wish I had a 34 waist. Or weighed 200 pounds.

      Meh… I wish I were rich, what ya gonna do?


    174. Deplorable Bumr50
      180 | May 11, 2017 10:00 pm

      One vote shy…

      Senators John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Susan Collins Vote to Retain Obama-era Climate Rule

      Senators John McCain (R-AZ), Lindsey Graham (R-SC), and Susan Collins (R-ME) voted to keep an Obama-era climate rule limiting methane emissions from oil and natural gas drilling.
      Forty-nine Republicans voted to abolish the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) rule, one vote short of passing through the Senate. Vice President Mike Pence stood ready at the Capitol to break the 50-50 tie.

      Graham and Collins previously publicized their intention to vote against the legislation. McCain’s vote came as a surprise to Senate leadership. McCain said he voted against the bill because he fears that it would prevent the BLM from writing improved regulation in the future.

      “While I am concerned that the BLM rule may be onerous, passage of the resolution would have prevented the federal government, under any administration, from issuing a rule that is ‘similar,’ according to the plain reading of the Congressional Review Act,” McCain said in a statement.

      McCain added, “I believe that the public interest is best served if the Interior Department issues a new rule to revise and improve the BLM methane rule.”

      The bill marks the first time Republicans failed to pass a Congressional Review Act (CRA) bill to repeal an Obama administration rule since President Donald Trump took office.

      Critics of the Obama-era rule argue that it adds unnecessary costs to oil and natural gas drilling in federal lands.

      Senator John Barrasso (R-WY) told reporters, “This was a very duplicative, unnecessary act of government interference in an area where BLM had no authority.”

      Barrasso said that he will ask Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke to repeal the rule instead of attempting to repeal the rule again in the Senate.

      “It was over-regulation by the Obama administration, and we tried to remove it with the Congressional Review Act. That fell one vote short today, and as a result we’ll call on the secretary to withdraw it.”

      Secretary Zinke told Sen. Bob Portman (R-OH) that no matter the result for the CRA bill, the BLM will take action to reduce methane pollution.


    175. AZfederalist
      181 | May 11, 2017 10:45 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      McCain is really an @$$


    176. 182 | May 11, 2017 10:46 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      Treasonous ass.


    177. Deplorable Bumr50
      183 | May 11, 2017 10:52 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      I know you’ve explained this before, but PLEASE stop putting him there.

      Given the intentional sabotage, I think a Dem would be preferable. (And I don’t say that lightly)


    178. AZfederalist
      184 | May 11, 2017 11:10 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      Given the intentional sabotage, I think a Dem would be preferable. (And I don’t say that lightly)

      Nope, you really didn’t want Ann Kirkpatrick in there. Yeah, lesser of two evils may still be evil, but he is the lesser of the two.


    179. AZfederalist
      186 | May 12, 2017 1:04 am

      I posted this at WZ as well. This could be an interesting thread.

      OT: Apparently this is a thing:
      https://www.gvsu.edu/cms4/a

      http://peopleofficeplaces.c

      I love the “story” at the end of the first one. Apparently they are getting pretty low quality straw men. That argument is so easy to shred it’s not funny.

      From that first link, added in bold is my arguments vs. the limp-wristed straw man they use:

      So let’s shred that stupid “dialogue” in the first link:

      Our Message, In Story Form

      Our message/story addresses multiple concerns in order to address various concerns. A typical conversation/class presentation goes a little like this:

      Sustainability Champion:

      Did you know that our recycling goes to the Holland Rescue Mission? The sorting becomes part of their job training program and the profits go to keep their programming going. For that reason (and because we’re committed to sustainability), we’ve implemented centralized hubs with bins around campus.

      Other – Student, Faculty, Staff (nodding):

      Cool. (everyone typically agrees with the first part)

      Person with two brain cells to rub together: That’s nice, how much does that “donation” cost the campus in terms of additional time, work, and effort?

      Champion:

      And in order to encourage everyone to make responsible choices (so that we can optimize our donations to the Rescue Mission), we’ve also removed trash containers from individual offices and classrooms around campus”

      Other (looking confused/concerned/perplexed/bewildered)

      What? No way. You couldn’t have. Why? Where am I supposed to put my trash?

      Person with two brain cells to rub together: Well, that’s a dumb@$$ thing to do. How much productive time is going to be required for someone to throw away a tissue or food wrapper? How much disruption of workflow and thought processes is this going to induce? … or are you expecting that people will either turn their offices into trash dumps or improvise their own trash containers so they can work productively? Since, that, after all is really supposed to be our end product, not recycle product

      Champion (gently, perhaps with a twinge of sarcasm):

      You can put it in the centralized hubs … best practices show that when individuals are presented with options, they make good decisions… so we wanted to make sure that each time you went to throw something away, you were presented with the best options so you could make the best choice.

      Other:

      I always recycle! I put paper into the blue bins, try to put bottles into the recycling and then put everything else into the trash…

      Person with two brain cells to rub together: You really are a smug, condescending scrunt, aren’t you? You seem to be mistaking a cause with the real end-goal of our organization. Interrupting people’s work for what is essentially cents or tenths of a cent worth of trash seems somewhat counter-productive, don’t you think?

      Champion:

      I’m sure you do… but not everyone does… we did a dumpster dive…

      Other: (intrigued, possibly disgusted) What?!?!

      Person with two brain cells to rub together: Well good for you

      Champion:

      Yes, a student and faculty volunteered to sort through the dumpster to see how things were being disposed. Turns out that about 90% of what was bound for the landfill could have been composted or recycled.

      Other:

      Wow. That’s a lot… (making connections) and it could have been going to the Mission.

      Person with two brain cells to rub together: So, did you really do that, or are you just making @#$% up just like most people on your side of the political aisle do?

      Champion:

      Yeah, and after we took away the trash cans, we waited 4 weeks and did another dive. Turns out that the second time, only 20% or so could have been recycled or composted.

      Other: (recognizing the value, but reluctant to change behavior) Hmmmpph… Doesn’t my tuition pay for a janitor to take care of my trash?

      Person with two brain cells to rub together: So, how much additional work was required by the people doing that? How much productivity was lost, how much was that recycle worth compared to the lost productivity and unintended consequences? Did you even think to measure that?

      Champion:

      We’re trying to keep tuition down, and this not only allows us to take responsibility, but also is a cost saving measure because our janitorial staff does not have to empty as many bags. It also saves money because we don’t have to buy as many bags, and …

      Other: (sensing no way out) OK

      Person with two brain cells to rub together: Oh, so that means you are going to be laying off janitorial staff since you won’t need as many? How do they feel about that. So, how do the cost in bags compare to the lost productivity I keep asking about? … and you are OK with paying professional wages to people to remove their own trash?

      Other here seems to be a wilting snowflake


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