First time visitor? Learn more.
  • No content found in .

  • THIS is What Winning Looks Like

    by coldwarrior ( 150 Comments › )
    Filed under Donald Trump, Economy, Open thread at July 8th, 2017 - 6:13 pm

    Hey, Nevertrumpers (r) ™ and ‘principled CONservatives’….THIS is what winning looks like:

     

    Hamburg (AFP) – US President Donald Trump won key concessions on climate and trade Saturday from world leaders at the most fractious G20 summit to date, in exchange for preserving the unity of the club of major industrialised and emerging economies.

    In a final statement agreed by all 20 economies, 19 members including Russia, China and the European Union acknowledged Trump’s decision to go his own way on taking the US out of the 2015 Paris climate accord.

    But they also accommodated Washington’s wish to “work closely with other countries to help them access and use fossil fuels more cleanly and efficiently”.

    While renewing a key anti-protectionist pledge, the communique for the first time underlined the right of countries to protect their markets with “legitimate trade defence instruments”.

    Such wording gives room for Trump to push on with his “America First” policy.

    Carried on a wave of public fury over deindustrialisation in vast areas of the United States, Trump had promised to “Buy American” and “Hire American”.

    But that stance had set him against many of America’s allies, who warned Trump against an isolationist path.

    Nevertheless, the wording of the final agreement marked the group of top economies’ decision to finally close ranks despite bitter differences.

    Any questions?

    Comments

    Comments and respectful debate are both welcome and encouraged.

    Comments are the sole opinion of the comment writer, just as each thread posted is the sole opinion or post idea of the administrator that posted it or of the readers that have written guest posts for the Blogmocracy.

    Obscene, abusive, or annoying remarks may be deleted or moved to spam for admin review, but the fact that particular comments remain on the site in no way constitutes an endorsement of their content by any other commenter or the admins of this Blogmocracy.

    We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.

    Play nice!

    150 Responses to “THIS is What Winning Looks Like”
    ( jump to bottom )

    1. eaglesoars
      1 | July 8, 2017 7:07 pm

      But they also accommodated Washington’s wish to “work closely with other countries to help them access and use fossil fuels more cleanly and efficiently”.

      what does that mean in practical terms? If they’re going abide by the Paris Accords they’re in a bind on fossil fuels, ‘more cleanly and efficiently’ notwithstanding. UNLESS it means we’ve got stuff, like coal stack scrubbers we will be delighted to sell them.


    2. lobo91
      2 | July 8, 2017 8:42 pm

      Grilled pineapple, anyone?


    3. RIX
      3 | July 8, 2017 8:49 pm

      From my perspective at the G20 Trump asserted two essential things, the legtimacy of Western
      culture and a defense of the nation state. I see globalism as a very Orwellian threat to freedom. That does not mean that you are not a friendly cooperative nation, it just means that you will not bow to one world bureaucracy.


    4. eaglesoars
      4 | July 8, 2017 8:52 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      Grilled pineapple, anyone?

      oh thanks, I just happen to have some fresh mint


    5. 5 | July 8, 2017 8:57 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      what does that mean in practical terms?

      It means that Trump got the G20 to admit that the Paris Accords and Globul Warming are just code speak for Marxist Wealth Redistribution and the US will not be participating under the Trump Administration.


    6. lobo91
      6 | July 8, 2017 9:02 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      lobo91 wrote:

      Grilled pineapple, anyone?

      oh thanks, I just happen to have some fresh mint

      Local grocery store had pineapples for 99 cents. I may have to go back tomorrow and get a few more.

      You can’t even buy a small can of pineapple for 99 cents…


    7. eaglesoars
      7 | July 8, 2017 9:02 pm

      I’m not going to give the links, you can look it up if you want, but suffice to say Bill Kristol has sunk so low he is now retweeting conspiracy tweets about the Trumps from that pond scum John Schindler


    8. lobo91
      8 | July 8, 2017 9:09 pm


    9. Aussie Infidel
      9 | July 8, 2017 9:20 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      But they also accommodated Washington’s wish to “work closely with other countries to help them access and use fossil fuels more cleanly and efficiently”.

      what does that mean in practical terms? If they’re going abide by the Paris Accords they’re in a bind on fossil fuels, ‘more cleanly and efficiently’ notwithstanding. UNLESS it means we’ve got stuff, like coal stack scrubbers we will be delighted to sell them.

      They have trapped themselves in a blind alley with no way out whilst the US sails by powering its energy production to new heights. Now we’ll watch with fascination as one by one those in the blind alley of green energy sapping politics attempt to lie their way out of their home goal. There will be lots of huffing and puffing about green energy whilst regiments of lawyers try to find words that will give these ignorant politicians the excuses for not doing what they are swearing to do. Politicians, lawyers and elites. The first to the wall as the popularise tsunami envelops them and sweeps their lies away.


    10. eaglesoars
      10 | July 8, 2017 9:25 pm

      heh. BBC reporter to Theresa May: Donald Trump is a liar so you aren’t going to trust him on any trade deal, right?

      May to BBC reporter: Sod off


    11. Aussie Infidel
      11 | July 8, 2017 9:27 pm

      @ lobo91:
      Gotta love Paul Joseph Watson!

      🙂


    12. eaglesoars
      12 | July 8, 2017 9:31 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:

      what does that mean in practical terms?

      It means that Trump got the G20 to admit that the Paris Accords and Globul Warming are just code speak for Marxist Wealth Redistribution and the US will not be participating under the Trump Administration.

      that part I got, it’s the ‘help’ part I’m missing.

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      regiments of lawyers try to find words that will give these ignorant politicians the excuses for not doing what they are swearing to do.

      see, I think you’re wrong there. They don’t have the same attitude to wealth we do, ‘beggar thy neighbor’ is their natural inclination. Also, this Marxist idea that ‘income inequality’ is a source of social unrest runs deep. I think they’ll continue to strangle themselves with this green energy bullshit with a few elites taking the opportunities for graft on an absolutely Czarist level. Not to mention it gives the petty bureaucrats an avenue for telling people what to do about the smallest things in their lives.


    13. eaglesoars
      13 | July 8, 2017 9:55 pm

      Here’s the next fabricated scandal courtesy of the NYT

      Donald Trump Jr. set up a meeting last June with Jared Kushner, Paul Manafort and a Kremlin-connected lawyer

      From what I’ve read so far, this meeting was about adoption issues in Russia (IIRC, Putin stopped foreign adoptions of Russian children because he got pissed off about something. This was a few years ago and the only reason I remember is that Laura Ingraham was able to get her baby out just in time.)

      CNN is starting to run with it via the ever gullible Brian Stelter who has tweeted

      Notable sourcing: “confidential government records described to The New York Times.” Then Trump Jr. & Kushner’s reps confirmed it when asked

      ‘described’ to the NYT.

      I think these people have no purpose in life besides this. If they had to make a choice between raising their kids and this, they’d choose this. They think it makes them important.


    14. eaglesoars
      14 | July 8, 2017 10:00 pm

      Hey Aussie, this person sez you guys are done for. I have no idea what’s going on with the economies down there, so you tell me. In any event,
      “It’s Too Late” – 7 Signs Australia Can’t Avoid Economic Apocalypse

      Actually, he’s predicting a global econ collapse, but who isn’t?


    15. eaglesoars
      15 | July 8, 2017 10:49 pm

      Ok, here is Circa, a source I trust on Donald Trump Jr meeting w/ THE RUSSIANS!!

      “We have learned from both our own investigation and public reports that the participants in the meeting misrepresented who they were and who they worked for,” said Mark Corallo, a spokesman for President Trump’s legal team. “Specifically, we have learned that the person who sought the meeting is associated with Fusion GPS, a firm which according to public reports, was retained by Democratic operatives to develop opposition research on the President and which commissioned the phony Steele dossier. ”

      “These developments raise serious issues as to exactly who authorized and participated in any effort by Russian nationals to influence our election in any manner,” Corallo said.

      Hillary tried to set them up?


    16. Aussie Infidel
      16 | July 8, 2017 11:11 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Hey Aussie, this person sez you guys are done for. I have no idea what’s going on with the economies down there, so you tell me. In any event,
      “It’s Too Late” – 7 Signs Australia Can’t Avoid Economic Apocalypse

      Actually, he’s predicting a global econ collapse, but who isn’t?

      I don’t know about Fiscal Apocalypse generally or specifically in the case of Australia. What i do know and this is from a close perspective in NZ where we can afford to look at the current Aussie situation with some objectivity given the much better situation in the NZ economy. What is happening in Oz is the demise of the two major political parties. Labour a (social (ist) democratic party of the centre left sliding fast towards the leftist extremes and the Liberal Party a former centre right party (sometimes akin the former Republicans who were soft on social policy and hard on economic policy. The Liberals led by Malcolm Turnbull (a narcissist of the first order who has been accurately quoted as not particularly caring what party he is in as long as he is in control). He’s also a One World Government would be elitist. The Liberals that he is leading have been so penetrated by NWO social (ist) democrats that their slide to the left is even faster than the Labor Party.

      The conservatives in the Australian polity both from the ‘right wing’ of the Labor Party (few actually still exist, and the right wing of the Liberals are casting about for a populist leader to lead them out of the Progressive blind alley that they find themselves lost and leaderless. The Australian Senate is totally fractionated (and faction divided) and can’t decide whether the sun comes up let alone legislation. There are about a dozen minor parties in the Senate, most being of the single issue variety. Like the ‘Shooters’ Party, the Motorcycle Party and the like. With the Senate locked in internecine warfare and conservatives having no home to go to, there is rising a nascent traditional / conservative rump led probably by Cory Bernardi that will destroy what’s left of the Liberal party of the past 70 years as well as stripping what’s left of normal blue-collar workers from the totally captured Labour / Green socialists.

      Think the Blue-dog Democrats and the Tea Party destroying the Republican Party and forming their own party called the Conservative Party. The National Party (formally the Country Party) a rural based party might join them as well. Currently the Nats are in coalition with the Liberals but that association is virtually bankrupt now and the Nats are looking for another conservative ‘home’.

      Whilst all that political stuff is going on the two major Political parties have set about destroying what’s left of Australian Industry. South Australia has physically destroyed the larger coal fired power station in the state that provides all of SA’s Baseline power and has erected lots of VERY VERY expensive wind turbines. Blackouts are happening . Now Victoria who used to give baseline power to SA is also in the thrall of socialists from State Labor and are stripping out power based on coal. This is economic suicide and they know it but these morons are so wedded to green energy NWO garbage that they are beyond caring.

      Economically Australia is heading towards wilful economic suicide where both major parties Labor (socialist) and Liberal (trending even faster socialist) have their fingers stuck in their ears and mouthing lalalalalalala. Neither political party wants to hear logic. The likes of a Trump populist party is now on the cards but it might be too late economically for OZ.

      In NZ we also are lumped with a conservative socialist Labour Party and a socialist conservative National Party. Note that word positioning !
      Fortunately NZ is blest with LOTS of water and lakes and dams generating cheap hydropower that not even socialist wreckers can stuff up. Up to 80% of Kiwi power in summer is from hydro and in winter that rises to about 90% renewable hydro. Seems as if the ‘lucky country’ Oz is in for a bit of bad news and NZ is OK as they have done just enough economically to carry it through the approaching global economic storms.


    17. Aussie Infidel
      17 | July 8, 2017 11:19 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:
      <blockquote
      Hillary tried to set them up?

      Clinton isn’t quite as smart as she thinks she is!

      Hillary has a very very long way to fall if there is any justice left in the world. Given that she’ll probably walk away without a scratch and make more piles of dirty money on the way.

      🙂


    18. eaglesoars
      18 | July 8, 2017 11:25 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      South Australia has physically destroyed the larger coal fired power station in the state that provides all of SA’s Baseline power and has erected lots of VERY VERY expensive wind turbines. Blackouts are happening

      lemme guess. no nuke power plants either. Somebody is making big money from this.


    19. eaglesoars
      19 | July 8, 2017 11:31 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Given that she’ll probably walk away without a scratch and make more piles of dirty money on the way.

      I think her money making days are over. She may never suffer any consequences legally, but as a public person, she’s on her way to defining ‘has been’. She’s untouchable in the sense that no one WANTS to touch her. Her days are over. She’s made her money, she’ll hole up in NY and quietly rot.


    20. Aussie Infidel
      20 | July 8, 2017 11:52 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      South Australia has physically destroyed the larger coal fired power station in the state that provides all of SA’s Baseline power and has erected lots of VERY VERY expensive wind turbines. Blackouts are happening

      lemme guess. no nuke power plants either. Somebody is making big money from this.

      Actually Profs. Butler and Prof. Sir Mark Olephant (both worked at the highest level on the Manhattan Project) among others were in the act of building two fast breeder reactors at Nowra on the NSW South Coast that would provide nuclear power for Sydney as well as produce lots of Plutonium for the Australian nukes. Australia was heavily involved in the Manhattan project as were the Brits. The Brits also tested all of their fission bombs as well as their fusion bombs in Australia and the Australian science establishment were right up to date with the technology.

      The US in the early 1960s threatened Australia with economic sanctions if they built a nuclear capability. The Brits were helping Australia go nuclear both for power and for weapons research. The US also threatened Britain with supporting the Australian project and forced the Brits to throw the Aussies physicists under the bus.

      Australia but two research reactors, HI-FAR and MOTAR up at Lucas Heights just south of Sydney and new generations reactors have since replaced them however after the Nowra debarcle Australia never got its nuclear power industry. The bones of the two breaded reactors remain in the bush on the shores of Nowra and are almost forgotten.


    21. Aussie Infidel
      21 | July 8, 2017 11:53 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Given that she’ll probably walk away without a scratch and make more piles of dirty money on the way.

      She’s made her money, she’ll hole up in NY and quietly rot.

      We can but hope.

      🙂


    22. 22 | July 8, 2017 11:57 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Next time you say hello to yenta, please tell her that I’m sorry.


    23. Aussie Infidel
      23 | July 8, 2017 11:59 pm

      How I hate auto-script correction !

      I typed
      two breeder reactors and the bloody software served up reactors covered in breadcrumbs…. ‘breaded reactors’


    24. eaglesoars
      24 | July 8, 2017 11:59 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      The US in the early 1960s threatened Australia with economic sanctions if they built a nuclear capability. The Brits were helping Australia go nuclear both for power and for weapons research. The US also threatened Britain with supporting the Australian project and forced the Brits to throw the Aussies physicists under the bus.

      this rings a bell. and I don’t know why. it wasn’t REALLY about nuclear non-proliferation. oh geez, I wasn’t cognizant back then, I was just a kid, but it seems someone told me it was about your geography, if you had it, other nations would feel vulnerable and impelled to develop their own.

      I have no idea why that’s in my head, I don’t even remember how it got there.


    25. lobo91
      25 | July 9, 2017 12:00 am

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      I typed
      two breeder reactors and the bloody software served up reactors covered in breadcrumbs…. ‘breaded reactors’

      I was about to ask how you cook that…


    26. eaglesoars
      26 | July 9, 2017 12:04 am

      Deplorable Macker wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      Next time you say hello to yenta, please tell her that I’m sorry.

      ok.


    27. eaglesoars
      27 | July 9, 2017 12:05 am

      bedtime nite


    28. Aussie Infidel
      28 | July 9, 2017 12:06 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      ANU (Australian National University) in Canberra researched , designed and commercialised a new laser based uranium U-235 separation and isotope concentration technology a decade ago. The US government took freight and pressured Australia to share this ground breaking technology with no-one. Not even US allies, including the Brits, such was the fear of the US that the technology would leak and every tin pot would be nuclear armed state would be able to build cheap nukes and the non-Proliferation Treaty would not be worth the paper it was written on. Fair enough but the Aussies have been very poorly treated by the US over the years and have been kept in their place by threatening US trade sanctions. So much for looking after one’s cousins!

      🙂


    29. Aussie Infidel
      29 | July 9, 2017 12:07 am

      lobo91 wrote:

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      I typed
      two breeder reactors and the bloody software served up reactors covered in breadcrumbs…. ‘breaded reactors’

      I was about to ask how you cook that…

      Cobalt 60 works a treat I believe!

      🙂


    30. Aussie Infidel
      30 | July 9, 2017 12:07 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      bedtime nite

      G’nite Eagles!

      🙂


    31. Aussie Infidel
      31 | July 9, 2017 12:21 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      The US in the early 1960s threatened Australia with economic sanctions if they built a nuclear capability. The Brits were helping Australia go nuclear both for power and for weapons research. The US also threatened Britain with supporting the Australian project and forced the Brits to throw the Aussies physicists under the bus.

      this rings a bell. and I don’t know why. it wasn’t REALLY about nuclear non-proliferation. oh geez, I wasn’t cognizant back then, I was just a kid, but it seems someone told me it was about your geography, if you had it, other nations would feel vulnerable and impelled to develop their own.

      I have no idea why that’s in my head, I don’t even remember how it got there.

      The US back in the early 1960s were trying to suck up to Indonesia (Australia’s nemesis) and hoped that Sukarno wouldn’t go totally communist. Hence the mastering the US gave to Australia. The US also forced the Dutch out of West New Guinea through the UN as a way to again suck up to Sukarno.

      There is no way that Australians ever believed the US ‘guarantees’ that the US would go nuclear in defence of Australia. Nobody took seriously losing LA to a H bomb in defence of Australia. Both sides pretended to believe the propaganda of mutual support under a US nuke umbrella.


    32. Aussie Infidel
      32 | July 9, 2017 12:29 am

      Perhaps Australia should have taken the Israeli option and just developed the technology itself. The Israelis got French research support but the Brits under US threats refused to back Australia after the US threatened Britain with sanctions in the 1960s. Even so Australia had the capability, the local knowledge, the raw materials (40% of the world’s uranium) and engineering capability to make its own nukes…. but didn’t under the threat of US economic sanctions. Same thing happened to the French but the frogs just told Kennedy to shove it where the sun doesn’t shine and the Israelis went ahead with French help. Britain folded like a cheap garden chair however. Australia could have built its own nuclear industry and weapons but the threat of US sanctions so soon after WWII made them worried about the economic implications.

      The Israelis had a truly existential threat however so they told the US to shove it and went ahead anyway


    33. coldwarrior
      33 | July 9, 2017 5:43 am

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      quite an ending to that 3rd test at eden park!


    34. Aussie Infidel
      34 | July 9, 2017 8:07 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      Yup.

      Bloody French ref!

      Offside is off side whether it’s an accident or with malicious intent. It’s bloody offside. Right in front of the posts. A crippled one eyed granny could have thrown the ball over the crossbar!

      Bloody French!

      🙂

      Frankly I blame the EU !

      It turns out girly men!

      HEH!

      🙂


    35. eaglesoars
      36 | July 9, 2017 9:33 am

      If anyone get the NatGeo channel you might be interested in their broadcast at 8 pm tonite (that’s my time, U.S. east coast).

      Earth Live will show in REAL TIME wild life being filmed all over the world. You can read about it at the link but here’s a teaser.

      July 9 is also auspicious for celestial reasons: It’s the longest day of the year with a full moon. This stretch of lunar brilliance will allow filmmakers to capture wildlife in full color using only moonlight, thanks to new low-light camera technology that National Geographic will deploy in the U.S., Ethiopia, and Kenya, three of the 16 countries where Earth Live will film.


    36. eaglesoars
      37 | July 9, 2017 9:38 am

      RIX wrote:

      http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/class-act-president-trump-picks-marines-hat-puts-back-head-wind-carries-away-video/
      @ Gateway Pundit
      Another day a new Trump outrage!

      there was an RT tweet showing the clip – POTUS ‘struggles’ with Marine hat.

      Chris Wallace just had Priebus on. Wallace was screeching that Trump is going to get us in a trade war!! I tellz ya TRADE WAR!! over steel tarriffs.

      Priebus said ‘fuck em, it’s called national security’


    37. RIX
      38 | July 9, 2017 9:51 am

      http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/07/09/pope-francis-reportedly-believes-america-has-a-distorted-vision-of-the-world/
      @ The Blaze
      Pope Frank strikes again. I find it difficult to be a Catholic since the prest sexual misconduct with children scandals
      and the subsequent coverups. That includes our parish.
      Then along comes this guy. He may disdain America, but he keeps is hand out taking cash from American Catholics.


    38. RIX
      39 | July 9, 2017 9:57 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      Seriously in that clip I saw a guy spontaneously act like a guy, not a choreographed grandstander.
      He respects the military.
      I had this discussion on another site. Their hysteria was about tariffs being Socialist, and Trumpkins are
      uneducated Marxists,. Good times.


    39. eaglesoars
      40 | July 9, 2017 10:03 am

      RIX wrote:

      I saw a guy spontaneously act like a guy, not a choreographed grandstander.

      There was one moment that started me looking at Trump as anything but a caricature. That was when, at the beginning of one of the debates, Ben Carson either didn’t hear his name being called onto the stage or they forgot him. Every other candidate blew by him to get out front. Not Trump. He stayed with him until everybody had been called and then ushered him out. Spontaneous graciousness that really struck me. They could have had no idea that the camera could see them BACKSTAGE.

      It was at that point I went ‘hunh’. And it’s why all the yammering about Trump’s supposed vulgarity and buffoonery are dismissed by me as jealous bullshit.


    40. RIX
      41 | July 9, 2017 10:12 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      It was at that point I went ‘hunh’. And it’s why all the yammering about Trump’s supposed vulgarity and buffoonery are dismissed by me as jealous bullshit.

      I remember that as well. I can get past Trumps foibles because I view him as a good guy working in the best
      interests of this country.


    41. eaglesoars
      42 | July 9, 2017 10:18 am

      RIX wrote:

      I view him as a good guy working in the best
      interests of this country.

      yeah, and I suspect he gets a kick out of people thinking he’s stupid.

      Now, this is interesting. Legally, I don’t know what to make of it.

      The firm behind the salacious and unsubstantiated Trump dossier is refusing to to cooperate with the Senate Judiciary Committee’s request to provide documentation or respond to questions sent from the committee in March about the clients who paid for the dossier that launched the investigation into the administration and its alleged Russian connections.

      The Republican Chairman of the committee, Senator Charles Grassley, warned Fusion GPS, the firm that compiled the dossier, in March about its obligation “to provide details on the history of the dossier” including the clients who paid for it.

      The committee also wanted information on Christopher Steele, the former British spy who was hired to work on the project and how the FBI came to be involved in the dossier, and if the FBI paid Steele for his work.

      But Fusion GPS, led by former Wall Street Journal reporter Glen Simpson, told the senator’s office both in multiple phone calls and in a letter from the company’s attorney, Joshua A. Levy, that the committees request for information and documents are “protected by the First Amendment right, attorney client privilege, attorney work product, and contractual rights (e.g., confidentiality agreements) of Fusion and/or its clients.”

      Fusion GPS and Rinat Akhmetshin, a suspected Soviet agent, lobbied on behalf of the Kremlin against a U.S. law targeting Russian officials suspected of involvement in the death of a whistleblower.

      The law, known as the Global Magnitsky Act,

      Fusion GPS lobbied against the law. Things that make you go hmmmmm…..


    42. Deplorable Bumr50
      43 | July 9, 2017 10:25 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      Nice guys can also be vulgar buffoons at times. Or else I’m pretty sure I’d cease to exist.

      So many personal interactions with Trump were brought to light during the campaign speaking to his character that it shouldn’t be an issue.


    43. RIX
      44 | July 9, 2017 10:31 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      Does the First Amendment protect Fusion from providing information to the Committee?
      I can’t swear to it, but I doubt it. I am pretty sure that Trump could bring a civil suit for defamation though.


    44. RIX
      45 | July 9, 2017 10:34 am

      @ RIX:
      I loved the meme that guys don’t talk like Trump even in locker rooms. News to me, lot’s of talk like that in
      locker rooms when I was playing sports.


    45. eaglesoars
      46 | July 9, 2017 10:45 am

      The Battle of Mosul is over.

      Mosul is liberated.

      RIX wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      Does the First Amendment protect Fusion from providing information to the Committee?
      I can’t swear to it, but I doubt it. I am pretty sure that Trump could bring a civil suit for defamation though.

      I have NO clue. We need Barbarian in here.

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      Nice guys can also be vulgar buffoons at times. Or else I’m pretty sure I’d cease to exist.

      RIX wrote:

      News to me, lot’s of talk like that in
      locker rooms when I was playing sports.

      The only thing I have to say about that is men have nuthin’ on the women. And women know it, believe me. Just using myself as an example…I keep it clean online but when the girls get together, we can clear any room of any male in seconds. Without messing up the mascara.
      The bull about Trump’s vulgarity was just that. There are ways men can speak that are disrespectful of women, but it’s not because of any vulgarity. They are vulgar because they’re disrespectful.

      And there are few things more vulgar than a vulgar woman, see ‘Lena Dunham’.

      I rest my case.


    46. RIX
      47 | July 9, 2017 10:50 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      The only thing I have to say about that is men have nuthin’ on the women. And women know it, believe me. Just using myself as an example…I keep it clean online but when the girls get together, we can clear any room of any male in seconds. Without messing up the mascara.
      The bull about Trump’s vulgarity was just that. There are ways men can speak that are disrespectful of women, but it’s not because of any vulgarity. They are vulgar because they’re disrespectful.

      And there are few things more vulgar than a vulgar woman, see ‘Lena Dunham’.

      I rest my case.

      Eagles that is well said, it’s just the fact of the matter. Scathing disrespect can be delivered without an ounce of
      vulgarity. I do know that you are correct, women also can be wordsmith artists with profanity too.


    47. eaglesoars
      48 | July 9, 2017 10:52 am

      The White Widow is, I hope, at the very top of our kill list. Too bad about her little boy.

      Sara Jones, who wept that she wanted to go back to the UK, awaits the drone with her name one it.

      She is claimed to have plotted the ISIS kidnapping and beheading of a US army vet, and was reportedly involved in the planning of a foiled nightclub shooting.


    48. 49 | July 9, 2017 11:11 am

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Same thing happened to the French but the frogs just told Kennedy to shove it where the sun doesn’t shine and the Israelis went ahead with French help. Britain folded like a cheap garden chair however. Australia could have built its own nuclear industry and weapons but the threat of US sanctions so soon after WWII made them worried about the economic implications.

      Oh poppy-cock. The Australians didn’t knuckle under to American demands that they not develop their own nuclear weapons program. Australia, like nearly every other country to fund a nuclear weapons program gave it up because of the financial burden it produced.

      The nations that have nuclear weapons today, are those nations that were willing to nearly bankrupt themselves to obtain them.

      Australia operated a covert weapons research program with South Africa and Brazil which eventually died a slow painful death from financial attrition when first Australia in the mid 1970’s withdrew, then South Africa in the mid 1980’s and finally the remaining Brazilian effort petered out mid 1990’s.


    49. 50 | July 9, 2017 11:16 am

      RIX wrote:

      Does the First Amendment protect Fusion from providing information to the Committee?

      The First Amendment does not “Protect” anyone from providing information of giving testimony ever under any circumstance. It protects the unalienable right of every US Citizen to say things that the government or other citizens might wish to prevent them from saying.


    50. eaglesoars
      51 | July 9, 2017 11:26 am

      The Economist: “Get Ready For A World Currency By 2018”

      because the Euro worked so well.


    51. eaglesoars
      52 | July 9, 2017 11:29 am

      doriangrey wrote:

      The First Amendment does not “Protect” anyone from providing information of giving testimony ever under any circumstance. It protects the unalienable right of every US Citizen to say things that the government or other citizens might wish to prevent them from saying.

      yeah, that’s true as far as it goes. What I don’t know is if there are any SCOTUS rulings that may have expanded its interpretation.

      I need food. later.


    52. eaglesoars
      53 | July 9, 2017 11:31 am

      just in, from the invaluable Circa, natch

      Russian lawyer who got inside Donald Trump’s inner circle had been denied US visa


    53. RIX
      54 | July 9, 2017 12:20 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      Does the First Amendment protect Fusion from providing information to the Committee?

      The First Amendment does not “Protect” anyone from providing information of giving testimony ever under any circumstance. It protects the unalienable right of every US Citizen to say things that the government or other citizens might wish to prevent them from saying.

      Thanks, that’s what I thought.


    54. lobo91
      55 | July 9, 2017 12:33 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      The Battle of Mosul is over.

      Mosul is liberated.

      Of course, it was “liberated” in the “We had to destroy the village in order to save it” fashion…


    55. 56 | July 9, 2017 1:00 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      The Battle of Mosul is over.

      Mosul is liberated.

      Of course, it was “liberated” in the “We had to destroy the village in order to save it” fashion…

      That actually IS the only way to save a Muslim infested area.


    56. eaglesoars
      57 | July 9, 2017 1:12 pm

      I don’t know what ya’ll are doin’ but I’m eating fried green tomatoes and bacon.


    57. 58 | July 9, 2017 1:28 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      I don’t know what ya’ll are doin’ but I’m eating fried green tomatoes and bacon.

      I’m drinking Gatorade and vaping Banana Slit juice. Contemplating a trip into town for, something, maybe meatish, for grilling and stuff.


    58. Deplorable Bumr50
      59 | July 9, 2017 3:27 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      I’m vaping this.

      https://www.flawlessvapeshop.com/collections/flawless-vape-e-liquid/products/hot-mess-churro-vanilla-bean-eliquid

      I got it in FL. They don’t sell it here in PA becase they won’t move into the market due to taxes.


    59. Deplorable Bumr50
      60 | July 9, 2017 5:21 pm

      Oregon Passes GOP Senator’s Bill Allowing Gun Seizure Order Without Gun Owner’s Knowledge

      Oregon lawmakers passed legislation co-sponsored by Sen. Brian Boquist (R-Dallas) that allows a judge to issue an ex parte ruling for the confiscation of an individual’s firearms.

      The bill is SB 719, and it has now passed Oregon’s House and Senate. It creates an Extreme Risk Protection Order, which forces the subject of the order to hand over all firearms, as well as his concealed carry permit if he possesses one.

      https://www.weaselzippers.us/347775-oregon-passes-gop-senators-bill-allowing-gun-seizure-order-without-gun-owners-knowledge/#disqus_thread


    60. 61 | July 9, 2017 5:42 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ doriangrey:

      I’m vaping this.

      https://www.flawlessvapeshop.com/collections/flawless-vape-e-liquid/products/hot-mess-churro-vanilla-bean-eliquid

      I got it in FL. They don’t sell it here in PA becase they won’t move into the market due to taxes.

      That sounds… Umm… weird.


    61. Deplorable Bumr50
      62 | July 9, 2017 5:49 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      The flavor or the reason they won’t sell in PA?


    62. Deplorable Bumr50
      63 | July 9, 2017 5:52 pm

      @ doriangrey:
      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      Because if churro and vanilla bean ice cream together is weird, I don’t want to be normal.


    63. rain of lead
      64 | July 9, 2017 6:31 pm

      the girl is making a big pot of Jambalaya

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbt1RtXNDsQ


    64. rain of lead
      65 | July 9, 2017 6:33 pm

      oh man…….
      it’s starting to smell GOOD!!!

      she’s doing the low heat version
      dat’s cool, I got dis here pepper flakes


    65. Aussie Infidel
      66 | July 9, 2017 6:47 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Same thing happened to the French but the frogs just told Kennedy to shove it where the sun doesn’t shine and the Israelis went ahead with French help. Britain folded like a cheap garden chair however. Australia could have built its own nuclear industry and weapons but the threat of US sanctions so soon after WWII made them worried about the economic implications.

      Oh poppy-cock. The Australians didn’t knuckle under to American demands that they not develop their own nuclear weapons program. Australia, like nearly every other country to fund a nuclear weapons program gave it up because of the financial burden it produced.

      The nations that have nuclear weapons today, are those nations that were willing to nearly bankrupt themselves to obtain them.

      Australia operated a covert weapons research program with South Africa and Brazil which eventually died a slow painful death from financial attrition when first Australia in the mid 1970’s withdrew, then South Africa in the mid 1980’s and finally the remaining Brazilian effort petered out mid 1990’s.

      Proof?

      Hmmm I thought so … crickets….

      The first lie is clear and unambiguous. The fact that Australia was in the process of building two fast breeder reactors at near Nowra on Commonwealth land not far from the Jervis Bay Naval base is a fact. The funding was provided and the design was similar if not a direct steal of the Windscale British reactors. ALL of the technical expertise was on hand both from British and Australian sources. ALL of the warhead miniaturisation technology was shared equally between the British and Australian governments. Hell even the high tension links between the reactors and the Sydney grid had been established in the land acquit ion and build stage. The foundations for the two reactors were in the ground and the buildings were under construction when the heavy hand of Washington descended not on just Australia but specifically on the British government. Even the Australian delivery system was under development in the British Blue Streak intercontinental missile developed under British and Australian co-operation .

      I have no idea where you got the conspiracy theory about a South African / Brizilian / Australian covert nuclear co-operation agreement. That is bullshit mate. A lie plain and simple. Australia was NEVER in any such plan. It’s a conspiracy theory hatched by persons unknown. There was also supposed to be a Taiwanese/ SA /Israeli agreement and even a nuclear test 1000 Km deep in the great Southern Ocean. Again more bullshit conspiracy theories hatched in the minds of folks with too much time on their hands. If you have the PROOF of such a theory cough it up mate.

      Yeah !

      I thought so!

      There is however actual proof of US pressure on both the British and Australian governments at the time of the actual construction of the Nowra / Jervis Bay reactors. Lucas Heights Reactors facility was the US sop to Australian objections. I’ve been inside Lucas Heights on a number of occasions and even applied for a Health Physics job there way back when. The histories of all this US chicanery very well is documented in the national records.

      Go help yourself mate if you don’t believe me and please no more bullshit conspiracy theories and straight out lies.

      🙂


    66. rain of lead
      67 | July 9, 2017 7:09 pm

      I’m sitting here, watching my girl grow up bit by bit and so proud it hurts

      this song sums it up fairly well

      dads and daughters

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxuJ-cumHh8&index=57&list=PLdiDN6Uc46DFXbaVFjk3byxbaxOW3sEXW


    67. Aussie Infidel
      68 | July 9, 2017 7:25 pm

      @ doriangrey:
      Baxter the Vice Chancellor of Sydney university where I was working at the time was fronting the development of Jervis Bay facility. Holt the Prime Minister was initially a supporter but was suspected of being a Chinese plant (never proven) and disappeared spearfishing alone off Portsea near Melbourne. Then came Gorton a former fighter pilot but with a dodgy background in secret societies (Masons) and covert agendas. He ‘retired’ under a cloud and McMahon took over. By then the covert US pressure was ramped up even though both Britain and the US were throwing their Australian ally under the bus. The US wanted a compliant Australia and Britain wanted to just get out of Asia completely. Meanwhile Indonesia’s Sukarno was rattling the sabres of war to Australian north with US support. The US apparently thought that by backing Indonesia against a background of communist penetration politics the US could keep Sukarno at least partially ‘in the club’. The US threw the Fortress Australia concept under the bus even though Australia had serious reservations about US support as the US administration flirted with Sukarno and told Australia to ‘get its heels together’ and just keep sending Aussie soldiers to die as cannon fodder in Vietnam. At least the Aussie Chief of Defence Staff refused that demand and the Australians commanded their own troops in their own regional battlefield in Viet Nam.

      PM McMahon eventually folded against US trade threats, as the British had done when the US threatened the UK with sanctions if they kept supporting the Australian push at self defence and the concept of a nuclear armed Fortress Australia. The British wouldn’t stand up against US demands and threw Australia under the bus and even went so far as withdrawing from Asia completely. Do not forget that at this time Britain was governed by the Labour party who’s leader has direct and highly compromised links with the Soviets.

      The bones of the twin reactors at Jervis Bay are still there as proof of the machinations of the US against the interests of an independent ‘fortress Australia’ nuclear defence policy.
      Whitlam a totally compromised socialist PM ( with covert links with Arabs) eventually killed any return to an independent Australian nuclear capability and the US was then happy that it had Australia completely under its heel, not only in regards ‘collective’ defence but more importantly with trade and competition. The highly unbalanced trade agreement of 2007 that stripped all protections from the Australian side but left them in place for the US until 2017 is a case i point. The trade restrictions agreed to in 2007 STILL haven’t been lifted by the US … waiting … waiting….

      🙂


    68. eaglesoars
      69 | July 9, 2017 7:56 pm

      good god. another awful fire in London, this time Camden Market.

      live feed


    69. eaglesoars
      70 | July 9, 2017 8:02 pm

      Nat Geo is broadcasting Earth Live now


    70. Aussie Infidel
      71 | July 9, 2017 8:22 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      good god. another awful fire in London, this time Camden Market.

      live feed

      All fires are awful but HUGE?

      Seriously?

      It looks like a 1-3 station call out on any nominal evening.


    71. Aussie Infidel
      72 | July 9, 2017 8:26 pm

      Looks as if that fire has been pretty much knocked down. I note that they are only using 4 inch lines so it can’t be that bad.


    72. eaglesoars
      73 | July 9, 2017 8:34 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      All fires are awful but HUGE?

      I dunno. Did someone say ‘huge’?

      Humpback whales eat one and a half tons of food a day


    73. eaglesoars
      74 | July 9, 2017 9:03 pm

      Comey’s is trooouuubbbllleeee

      More than half of the memos former FBI chief James Comey wrote as personal recollections of his conversations with President Trump about the Russia investigation have been determined to contain classified information, according to interviews with officials familiar with the documents.

      This revelation raises the possibility that Comey broke his own agency’s rules and ignored the same security protocol that he publicly criticized Hillary Clinton for in the waning days of the 2016 presidential election.


    74. Aussie Infidel
      75 | July 9, 2017 9:06 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      The elitist entitlement is strong in this one Obiwan.

      🙂


    75. eaglesoars
      76 | July 9, 2017 9:16 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      Hubris. The gift that keeps on giving.

      I’ve learned that sloths’ fur is coated in algae. They leave their trees once a year to poop and that’s when the algae lay whatever you call their eggs.

      Oh it’s a wolverine! In Finland!


    76. eaglesoars
      77 | July 9, 2017 9:27 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Comey’s is trooouuubbbllleeee

      Jason Chaffitz

      IF true, this is bombshell news


    77. 78 | July 9, 2017 10:23 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Trump’s antics were so bad that Comey had to break protocol himself to save America.
      /////


    78. lobo91
      79 | July 9, 2017 10:34 pm

      Just got back from seeing Spiderman Homecoming.

      It was pretty good.


    79. eaglesoars
      80 | July 9, 2017 10:42 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      Trump’s antics were so bad that Comey had to break protocol himself to save America.
      /////

      watching Comey hang himself is almost as much fun as watching the NYT blow itself up over and over again. It’s like the coyote in Roadrunner. Their “Trump Jr met with Russian lawyer with Kremlin connections” so-called expose has now attained nothingburger status and the Left has begun its stompy-foot snit dance.


    80. eaglesoars
      81 | July 9, 2017 10:44 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      Just got back from seeing Spiderman Homecoming.

      It was pretty good.

      I’m watching live safari stuff on NatGeo.


    81. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      82 | July 9, 2017 11:05 pm

      Here’s some news that CNN will never show.

      http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/07/913404-trump-interrupted-6-times-poland-chant-might-thought-heard-usa/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Owned&utm_term=ijamerica&utm_campaign=ods&utm_content=Politics

      President Donald Trump was apparently interrupted six times during his speech in Poland with chants of, “Donald Trump! Donald Trump! Donald Trump!”


    82. eaglesoars
      83 | July 9, 2017 11:07 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      ‘apparently’? They can’t count that high?


    83. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      84 | July 9, 2017 11:25 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Sounds about right. Lol, no the website was going off of White House transcripts and hadn’t actually seen it themselves.


    84. 85 | July 9, 2017 11:44 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:
      Trump paid them. Or maybe they’ll go back to the old ‘Polish Jokes’ we told when we were kids.


    85. eaglesoars
      86 | July 9, 2017 11:49 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      I am going to bed to dream blissful dreams because there are legions of hysterical #nevertrumpers out there swearing that THIS time they’ve GOT him! and it’s Charlie Brown with Lucy and the football over and over and over again.

      AAUGH!


    86. eaglesoars
      87 | July 10, 2017 12:13 am

      checking the last of my mail, someone who knows I love birds sent me this. From New Zealand, apparently the smartest bird in the world, the Kea.

      This video is of a wild bird, no human interaction/teaching at all.


    87. 88 | July 10, 2017 12:34 am

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      Piss off. I was in the nuclear industry back in the late 70’s and early 80’s. I know who was working with who.

      Many observers remained dissatisfied with the extent and credibility of these disclosures.
      Roger Jardine, then the ANC’s science adviser (and now Board Chairperson of the
      Nuclear Energy Corporation of South Africa) called De Klerk’s March 1993 speech
      ‘another can of “neither lie nor the full truth” ‘. He disputed De Klerk’s claims that the
      South African bombs were built without foreign assistance, that South Africa never tested
      nuclear weapons, and that the whole nuclear programme cost only R700-R800 million.
      ‘Only a democratic government that carries the credibility, moral authority and respect of
      all South Africans throughout the continent’, Jardine wrote, ‘will be able to convincingly
      show this dark chapter’.” Abdul Minty, then Director of the World Campaign against
      Military and Nuclear Collaboration with South Africa, and now Deputy Director-General of
      Foreign Affairs and Chief of the Nonproliferation Council, also criticised De Klerk’s
      denials of foreign assistance.^
      Yet over a decade later, much of South Africa’s nuclear history remains hidden. The
      most authoritative official published account does not exceed 20 pages in length.^ The
      common claim that the whole story – save for proliferation sensitive information – was
      fully told in 1993-1994 is questionable in light of repeated revelations disproving or filling
      gaps in the official picture. For instance, De Klerk asserted in 1993 that ‘at no time did
      South Africa acquire nuclear weapons technology or materials from another country, nor
      has it provided any to any other country, or co-operated with another country in this
      regard’.’ However, a secret 1988 court judgment, leaked to the South African press in 1994,
      revealed clandestine imports from Israel of tritium useful for boosting nuclear bomb yield.^
      De Klerk-era accounts also held that the official nuclear strategy’s last resort was a
      ‘demonstration through an underground nuclear test’.’ Insiders subsequently admitted that
      at least two subsequent steps were envisioned had an underground test failed to achieve its
      desired deterrent or coercive effect: an above-ground demonstration, followed by a threat
      of tactical use.'” Moreover, the weapons themselves, originally described as crude gravity
      bombs, were in fact sophisticated video-guided glide bombs, similar to an Israeli system.”
      These omissions could have resulted from officials’ incomplete knowledge about the
      programme’s history. The secretive and compartmentalised nature of the programme
      throughout its lifetime meant that some of the Atomic Energy Corporation and Armscor

      Canberra was also worried. “The thinking was a naval fleet might try and invade. In Sydney and Melbourne we had two big cities that were very vulnerable and if you didn’t have strategic strike capability then you’ve had it.”

      Many in the government harboured a desire for a joint “Empire” bomb produced between Australia, Britain, Canada and South Africa.

      Canberra didn’t just “Harbor a desire” they were the foreign assistance Roger Jardine criticized De Klerk’s claims that the
      South African bombs were built without foreign assistance over.


    88. Aussie Infidel
      89 | July 10, 2017 1:24 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      checking the last of my mail, someone who knows I love birds sent me this. From New Zealand, apparently the smartest bird in the world, the Kea.

      This video is of a wild bird, no human interaction/teaching at all.

      Just do NOT EVER allow a Kea access to your car when you’re not there.Thet just love stripping all of the rubber sounds from windscreens and the di==side and back windows. They do this for no particular reason but just because it’s difficult to do.

      They are Satan’s budgerigars

      HEH!

      🙂


    89. Aussie Infidel
      90 | July 10, 2017 1:37 am

      @ doriangrey:
      Total Bullshit mate.

      The Aussie try for both nuclear power and nuclear warheads was anchored in the late 1950s through to the early 1970s when any ambition was totally trashed. I did note that you just threw up a load of South African posturing and nothing about any actual proof of Australian association. There was no way that ANY Australian politician or even a rogue government department EVER did ANYTHING with ANYONE to build a nuclear capability after the very early 1970s.

      Still waiting for ANY proof of Australian conspiracy to gain Nukes during the 1980s through to the 2000s. The ANU push in using LASERs to separate isotopes was linked to other basic research at ANU but when they stumbled on that capability they developed it thinking that they could commercialise it and make $quillions. The US Government soon put a stop to that and as far as I know only Australia and the US had ANY access to that dangerous ‘cheap and easy’ fissionable material access. It stopped right there.

      Show me the proof mate….. the ramblings of one man Jardine is proof of nothing. It’s just ramblings of one pissed off former cold warrior.


    90. Aussie Infidel
      91 | July 10, 2017 1:54 am

      @ doriangrey:
      From your text:-
      ““We have the people, the knowledge, the history, the uranium and we still have Lucas Heights.”

      People CORRECT
      Knowledge DEFINITELY
      The History CORRECT right back to 1943
      Uranium HEAPS….Aussies are now the third largest producers with Ranger and the Rum Jungle the major extraction sites Lucas Heights TOTAL Bullshit. Hi Far was a very small research reactor ( that was where I would have worked had i got the job and MOTAR was a specialist reactor to manufacture radio-isotopes specifically for the medical community.

      Them’s the facts mate!

      🙂 Proof?….. crickets


    91. coldwarrior
      92 | July 10, 2017 8:01 am

      my dad had a VERY lucrative offer to go work in australia in the early 80’s because he had rather detailed knowledge and a very very high level of skill in machining/repairing/making parts for a very specific kind of LWBR.

      i wonder what that was about?


    92. RIX
      93 | July 10, 2017 8:42 am

      http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20170710/news/307109946/
      @ AP
      See if you find the same flaw in this AP story that I do. This article refers to Soros as a “Holacaust Survivor”
      I thought that Soros and his step-father were turning in Jews to the Nazis and then buying up their property
      at fire sale prices.


    93. eaglesoars
      94 | July 10, 2017 9:25 am

      RIX wrote:

      I thought that Soros and his step-father were turning in Jews to the Nazis and then buying up their property
      at fire sale prices.

      yeah, that’s how they survived the Holocaust. No flaw, just ‘perspective’. ‘Vulture capitalism’ in its original form.


    94. RIX
      95 | July 10, 2017 9:39 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      I thought that Soros and his step-father were turning in Jews to the Nazis and then buying up their property
      at fire sale prices.

      yeah, that’s how they survived the Holocaust. No flaw, just ‘perspective’. ‘Vulture capitalism’ in its original form.

      Definitely , and as I recall Soros does not deny what he and his step-father did and is unrepentant.


    95. 96 | July 10, 2017 10:08 am

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      There was no way that ANY Australian politician or even a rogue government department EVER did ANYTHING with ANYONE to build a nuclear capability after the very early 1970s.

      Still waiting for ANY proof of Australian conspiracy to gain Nukes during the 1980s through to the 2000s.

      Jeeze mate get the Tasmanian devil out of your panties and quit trying to move the goal posts. I was pretty damned clear.

      Australia operated a covert weapons research program with South Africa and Brazil which eventually died a slow painful death from financial attrition when first Australia in the mid 1970’s withdrew,

      The Australian design engineers I knew between 1978 – 1983 were fresh out of the Australian program which ended in 1975. When I knew them they were in transit some heading to South Africa some headed to Brazil. Hell, I still have 20 or 30 Aussie dollars I took off them in a poker game.

      More importantly, and I would think a former Military person would understand this, “Covert” programs are by their very nature, very difficult to prove.

      I was a “Health Physic’s Technician” and an up and coming Rock Star back then. I played a lot of poker with all of the engineer’s, and everybody talked to me. One of the perks of having a Velvet Rope pass to all of the top Rock Clubs in LA.

      Being a Health Physic’s Technician and a Physic’s major in college I spoke their language. I understood what they were talking about when they discussed neutron absorption and isotope decay rates.

      Unlike most people, I understood the purpose behind beryllium doping of boron carbide. (Right hand fractilized crystallization of beryllium in a boron carbide graphite composite is a neutron channeling technique)

      You’re a smart guy, I’m sure you can figure out what that implies. I’ll give you two guesses where I learned about that, oh, and the first three guesses don’t count.

      (Oh, here’s a hint, neutrons typically have a left hand down spin)


    96. 97 | July 10, 2017 10:20 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      my dad had a VERY lucrative offer to go work in australia in the early 80’s because he had rather detailed knowledge and a very very high level of skill in machining/repairing/making parts for a very specific kind of LWBR.

      i wonder what that was about?

      The entire world was told that the reactor I worked at was a PWR, it was in fact a LWBR design based on the The Shippingport LWBR. It wasn’t built right next to Camp Pendelton on accident or mere coincidence.


    97. 98 | July 10, 2017 11:21 am

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Clinton isn’t quite as smart as she thinks she is! Hillary has a very very long way to fall if there is any justice left in the world. Given that she’ll probably walk away without a scratch and make more piles of dirty money on the way.

      Hillary was NEVER as smart as they tried to make her out to be. She’s a foul-tempered bully is all she is.


    98. 99 | July 10, 2017 11:32 am

      RIX wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      It was at that point I went ‘hunh’. And it’s why all the yammering about Trump’s supposed vulgarity and buffoonery are dismissed by me as jealous bullshit.

      I remember that as well. I can get past Trumps foibles because I view him as a good guy working in the best
      interests of this country.

      I think there is a quality of showmanship to Trump, but it is when you see his basic principles of decency, which are on auto pilot, manifest is when you see the real man.

      Trump had done incredible charitable acts for people that he does not broadcast. They can make fun of “The Apprentice” all they’d like but Trump got celebrities in a room with their rolodexes and raised MILLIONS for charity each season. People seem to forget that aspect of it. Sure it was fun reality TV, but there were a lot of organizations that didn’t get a lot of national exposure until the celebrities on his show were “playing” for them.

      People were surprised to learn, for instance, that Trump put Jennifer Hudson up in his hotel after her mother and brother were murdered and surrounded her with security to keep her safe and did it with no fanfare – just a statement when asked by Access Hollywood if Jennifer was secure. But of course, he’s a RACIST, right?


    99. eaglesoars
      100 | July 10, 2017 11:48 am

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      People were surprised to learn, for instance, that Trump put Jennifer Hudson

      and, of course, she’s been one of his most vocal supporters in Hollywood when he gets trashed by them. right? oh, wait……..


    100. 101 | July 10, 2017 11:52 am

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      I’m the first to admit, when Rodan brought up the idea of President Trump back in 2008, I was totally opposed. But once Trump made it clear he not only was in it to win it, but was doing it out of love for country I got 100 percent behind him.


    101. eaglesoars
      102 | July 10, 2017 11:53 am

      oh, almost forgot. I was listening to Chris Plante while I was walking the heathen. He works for a local station, WMAL. Well, somehow, Jim Acosta spoke of or mentioned his employment history, and he said he had worked as a reporter for WMAL. I’m don’t know if he specified the date range or not. In any case, Chris Plante just nailed him. People at the station – one of whom has been there for over 30 years – have no memory of him. They can’t find any records of Acosta ever being employed there.

      So now, Chris has thrown Acosta’s entire employment history into question.

      gee, that’s too bad.


    102. eaglesoars
      103 | July 10, 2017 11:55 am

      doriangrey wrote:

      I’m the first to admit, when Rodan brought up the idea of President Trump back in 2008, I

      that seems so long ago now, doesn’t it? Was it The Reform Party or something? I thought it was very Don Quixote


    103. 104 | July 10, 2017 12:06 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      doriangrey wrote:

      I’m the first to admit, when Rodan brought up the idea of President Trump back in 2008, I

      that seems so long ago now, doesn’t it? Was it The Reform Party or something? I thought it was very Don Quixote

      I honestly thought at the time that it was just part and parcel of Trump’s humor. Her had after all been hinting on and off for 30 plus years that he might consider it.


    104. 105 | July 10, 2017 12:08 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      Plus, I will also confess that certain NY individuals and their NY is the center of the Universe attitude left me rather cold and distant to the prospect of a POTUS from NY.


    105. 106 | July 10, 2017 12:15 pm

      Any thoughts on potential meetings between Trump Jr and the Russians? New ammo for the left of course but will it mean anything?


    106. 107 | July 10, 2017 12:28 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      I was very disappointed in her. Jennifer Holliday first accepted an invitation to sing at the inaugural and then cancelled two days later. But if anything or anyone could dispell that “racist” claim it would have been Hudson. Trump actually PAID for round-the-clock security for her until the murderer was caught. It was said she didn’t leave the hotel. This supposed evil man. No one else came to her rescue.

      The ingratitude is stunning.


    107. RIX
      108 | July 10, 2017 12:46 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:
      Trump had done incredible charitable acts for people that he does not broadcast. They can make fun of “The Apprentice” all they’d like but Trump got celebrities in a room with their rolodexes and raised MILLIONS for charity each season. People seem to forget that aspect of it. Sure it was fun reality TV, but there were a lot of organizations that didn’t get a lot of national exposure until the celebrities on his show were “playing” for them.

      Some years ago the Trump limo was disabled on the sholder of a highway.
      A husband and wife driving by stopped to render assistance.
      Trump got information on them and paid off their mortgage. Who does that?


    108. RIX
      109 | July 10, 2017 12:48 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:
      The only entertainer that stood up that I am aware of is Jackie Evancho (sp)
      The Beach Boys choked.


    109. eaglesoars
      110 | July 10, 2017 12:50 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      after the murders, I listened to a recorded conversation of her sister. It wasn’t about anything in particular, just conversation before the murders.

      I’m hardly a prude, but that was some of the most vile language I have ever heard in my life. To put this as politely as I can, she was extolling the virtues of black female genitalia, her own in particular, and I’ll leave it at that. I’ve never been able to even look at Jennifer since then, as it’s a pretty good bet she grew up to be very much like her sister. ‘Skank’ would be a promotion.


    110. eaglesoars
      111 | July 10, 2017 12:52 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      Any thoughts on potential meetings between Trump Jr and the Russians? New ammo for the left of course but will it mean anything?

      It means nothing. Somewhere upthread I posted the Circa report on it. Nothingburger.


    111. eaglesoars
      112 | July 10, 2017 1:12 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      To put this as politely as I can, she was extolling the virtues of black female genitalia, her own in particular,

      I should add that it was just another reason to think the ‘outrage’ over Trump’s language was B.S. I know how women talk. It’s not pretty.


    112. RIX
      113 | July 10, 2017 1:55 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      Any thoughts on potential meetings between Trump Jr and the Russians? New ammo for the left of course but will it mean anything?

      Soon CNN will break the bomb shell story that Trump and Don Jr like Ruben Sandwiches.
      And what’s on rubens? RUSSIAN dressing!!!!!!


    113. 114 | July 10, 2017 2:07 pm

      @ RIX:

      Donald Trump does that.


    114. 115 | July 10, 2017 2:08 pm

      @ RIX:

      Interesting, since Mike Love claims to be a “Republican.”
      They aren’t “The Beach Boys” anymore anyway. Not without a Wilson brother onstage. It’s Mike Love’s relevance desperation Jukebox Tour.


    115. 116 | July 10, 2017 2:16 pm

      Well, well, well, looks like the University of Missouri will have all kinds of room for their effing “Safe Spaces” afterall. Enrollment is DOWN 35% over the past two years.

      http://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/07/10/another-victory-for-social-justice-univ-of-missouri-serves-up-big-lesson-in-economics/

      So I’m going to assume that they didn’t have to wait-list a single person that applied. Wonder how their football team recruitment is going? Gonna be pretty hard competing in the SEC with no one in the stands.

      ROLL TIDE.


    116. RIX
      117 | July 10, 2017 2:17 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      @ RIX:

      Donald Trump does that.

      Oh yeah


    117. RIX
      118 | July 10, 2017 2:21 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      @ RIX:

      Interesting, since Mike Love claims to be a “Republican.”
      They aren’t “The Beach Boys” anymore anyway. Not without a Wilson brother onstage. It’s Mike Love’s relevance desperation Jukebox Tour.

      If I recall correctly they vassilated up until three days to go.
      their fan base is older with a lot of trump supporters. They should have performed.


    118. 119 | July 10, 2017 2:22 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      @ RIX:

      Interesting, since Mike Love claims to be a “Republican.”
      They aren’t “The Beach Boys” anymore anyway. Not without a Wilson brother onstage. It’s Mike Love’s relevance desperation Jukebox Tour.

      Cold and I have discussed this subject at length, not the Beach Boy’s specifically, but bands carrying on after original members leave or die. Basically it comes down to this, once a band signs a record contract, they cease to be individuals and become a corporation.

      Now the fans do not like hearing or thinking about this, but it is the truth. The fact that original members have left or died does not mean that the corporate entity has ceased to hold legal contractual obligations. It depends entirely on how the original contract was structured.

      A record contract can be tied to a single individual, such as in the Bon Jovi or Credence Clearwater cases, or it can be tied to every individual member like with Jefferson Airplane/Starship or the Greatful Dead or to specific individuals such as in the case of Kiss where Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley are the only actual signatories to their contract.

      The fact that Mike Love is able to carry on the Beach Boy’s clearly indicates that he was a signatory to the original contract and probably played a far greater role in the bands creative efforts than most realize.


    119. RIX
      120 | July 10, 2017 2:23 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:
      Well, well, well, looks like the University of Missouri will have all kinds of room for their effing “Safe Spaces” afterall. Enrollment is DOWN 35% over the past two years.

      Karma is a bitch!


    120. lobo91
      121 | July 10, 2017 2:38 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      I’m pretty sure that people don’t buy tickets to hear a dramatic reading of the band’s recording contract…


    121. 122 | July 10, 2017 2:44 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      @ doriangrey:

      I’m pretty sure that people don’t buy tickets to hear a dramatic reading of the band’s recording contract…

      No they do not. Fans go to see their favorite band and indulge their fantasies about that band. Not only never knowing, but not even wanting to know how little of the music from their favorite band was written or recorded by their favorite band.


    122. lobo91
      123 | July 10, 2017 2:45 pm

      Foreigner is playing one of the Indian casinos nearby. There’s exactly one original member who will be there (Mick Jones). Am I going to pay for tickets? Hell no.


    123. Guggi
      124 | July 10, 2017 5:13 pm

      A wonderful story

      US Air Force rescues German father and son stranded off Florida coast

      A German father and son have been rescued by the US Air Force after their boat caught fire about 500 miles (800 kilometers) off the coast of Florida. One of the men is believed to have sustained serious burns.

      A big big thank you


    124. eaglesoars
      125 | July 10, 2017 5:41 pm

      Guggi wrote:

      A big big thank you

      Don’t thanks us. That was on the Atlantic side, you get to thank God for that one. The place defines ’empty’

      I got lost on the Gulf side. At night. In a canoe. Much easier.

      I’ve never been fond of open water like that. It’s a whole lotta nuthin’


    125. coldwarrior
      126 | July 10, 2017 5:47 pm

      RIX wrote:

      The only entertainer that stood up that I am aware of is Jackie Evancho (sp)

      she’s a good yinzer.

      😆


    126. coldwarrior
      127 | July 10, 2017 5:50 pm

      …salt mines…


    127. Aussie Infidel
      128 | July 10, 2017 5:52 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      my dad had a VERY lucrative offer to go work in australia in the early 80’s because he had rather detailed knowledge and a very very high level of skill in machining/repairing/making parts for a very specific kind of LWBR.

      i wonder what that was about?

      Sounds as if it was connected with the HiFar replacement research reactor.

      I think BOTH HiFar and MOTAR reactors have been replaced by newer technology. I know that ANC’s physics department is often seen operating up at Lucas Heights. The Hume Highway is now a dual carriageway 110KPH highway from the middle of Canberra right through to Sydney and Lucas Heights is a hour south Sydney so it’s only about 2 1/2 hours from ANC.

      🙂


    128. Guggi
      129 | July 10, 2017 6:22 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      The rescue team from the USAF did a tremendous good job


    129. eaglesoars
      130 | July 10, 2017 6:29 pm

      Guggi wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      The rescue team from the USAF did a tremendous good job

      That they did.

      So how did the G20 play over there? Is Merkel getting good reviews? The only thing of substance that got any reporting over here is Trump’s dropping out of the Paris accord. That surprised nobody, so it wasn’t a big deal.


    130. eaglesoars
      131 | July 10, 2017 6:34 pm

      I had completely forgotten this. Politico reported on it back in January of this year

      Flashback – Clinton Allies Met With Ukrainian Govt Officials to Dig up Dirt on Trump During 2016 Election

      Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.
      A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.
      The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia. But they were far less concerted or centrally directed than Russia’s alleged hacking and dissemination of Democratic emails.


    131. Guggi
      132 | July 10, 2017 6:36 pm

      @ Guggi:

      It was an interesting rescue chain:

      The German couple was able to send a call home to the family, the family called the local fire department they called the German sea rescue service which called the US-coast guard which called the USAF which re-directed the frighter to the scene of accident.


    132. Guggi
      133 | July 10, 2017 6:39 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      So how did the G20 play over there? Is Merkel getting good reviews?

      Merkel is doing fine, the SPD is suffering of the “protest”. Schulz is a complete failure.


    133. eaglesoars
      134 | July 10, 2017 7:00 pm

      Guggi wrote:

      @ Guggi:

      It was an interesting rescue chain:

      The German couple was able to send a call home to the family, the family called the local fire department they called the German sea rescue service which called the US-coast guard which called the USAF which re-directed the frighter to the scene of accident.

      Wow! The article said the freighter ‘just happened to be passing by’.


    134. Guggi
      135 | July 10, 2017 7:03 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      The article said the freighter ‘just happened to be passing by’.

      No, the frighter was re-directed to help the rescue team


    135. eaglesoars
      136 | July 10, 2017 7:22 pm

      @ Guggi:

      Well, after the son gets out of the hospital in Orlando, they can go visit Disney World! It’s right there. Costs a bloody fortune, which is why we didn’t go, but we should have. We went to Sea World instead, which was a complete bust.


    136. 137 | July 10, 2017 7:50 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      Foreigner is playing one of the Indian casinos nearby. There’s exactly one original member who will be there (Mick Jones). Am I going to pay for tickets? Hell no.

      Bah, I wouldn’t pay to see Foreigner even if it was all the original members.


    137. lobo91
      138 | July 10, 2017 8:01 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      The only show I’m planning to see this summer is Tedeschi Trucks Band in about 2 weeks.

      I’d like to see Joe Bonamassa, but the closest he’s going to be on this tour is either Vegas (with ridiculous ticket prices) or Phoenix.


    138. 139 | July 10, 2017 8:09 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      I wonder…..Democrats wouldn’t turn over the server – instead had it inspected by Crowdfire – a company run by an Ukrainian that HATES Putin. Smells worse that week-old fish doesn’t it?


    139. eaglesoars
      140 | July 10, 2017 8:40 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      Smells worse that week-old fish doesn’t it?

      would that fish be wrapping the subpoena the FBI never issued for that server?


    140. eaglesoars
      141 | July 10, 2017 8:45 pm

      Trump Jr. hired New York lawyer Alan Futerfas, who specializes in criminal defense and whose clients have included reputed organized crime figures, computer hackers and white-collar criminals.

      nothing against this Futerfas person, I know nothing about him. But if I were in Jr’s position, I’d have Victoria Toensing on speed dial


    141. RIX
      142 | July 10, 2017 8:49 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      The only entertainer that stood up that I am aware of is Jackie Evancho (sp)

      she’s a good yinzer.

      Quality kid.


    142. RIX
      145 | July 10, 2017 9:48 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      No one has signed Kapernick. His skills are not there and unlike the lib’s at ESPN and other sports media
      fans don’t like his crap.


    143. AZfederalist
      146 | July 10, 2017 10:57 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Report: NFL Experiences Softer Than Expected Demand for Advertising Season After Colin Kaepernick’s Protest

      http://www.hark.com/clips/dxmklndrvh-surprise-surprise-surprise-gomer-pyle-usmc


    144. eaglesoars
      147 | July 10, 2017 11:40 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      *snort*

      Maybe he can find work as a community organizer


    145. eaglesoars
      148 | July 10, 2017 11:57 pm

      wait. Gingrich and Judicial Watch and a senate staffer and a Romanian server and an Excel spreadsheet. I don’t even know how to read this. And this is from records the FBI released! Who knows that they haven’t released?

      independent groups discovered potentially classified Clinton documents on a Romanian server while searching for evidence that her network had been breached.

      The 100 pages of “302s,” or summaries from interviews conducted during the FBI investigation, indicated an unidentified witness consulted Newt Gingrich in August 2015 about how to orchestrate an outside review of potential intrusions into Clinton’s server. A “senior staff member” on the Senate Judiciary Committee was also involved, according to the notes.

      Gingrich steered the witness to Judicial Watch, which put $32,000 behind the effort in February or March of this year. The project entailed scouring the “deep web” for evidence that Clinton’s server, or that of her close confidante Sidney Blumenthal, was hacked.

      The unnamed company who was tapped to lead the effort found “one sensitive Excel file listing the names of known or suspected jihadists in Libya” on a Romanian server. Some of the file had been written in Russia, the witness said.

      A Romanian hacker breached Blumenthal’s inbox in 2013 and exposed Clinton’s private email address for the first time, forcing her to change her username. Clinton’s allies have argued that hack did not compromise any of Clinton’s files.

      However, the potentially classified file “did not come from Blumenthal’s server,” the witness said. Upon discovering the list of names, the individual who had been hired to conduct the online investigation “became concerned he had found a classified document and stopped the project.”

      Judicial Watch did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The conservative-leaning group has several Freedom of Information Act lawsuits pending against the State Department in search of Clinton-related documents.

      I don’t know if that ‘written in Russia’ bit is a typo that should be ‘written in Russian


    146. eaglesoars
      149 | July 11, 2017 12:06 am

      An award-winning journalist who broke the story of the group of Jewish women ejected from an LGBTQ march in Chicago last month has been reassigned to non-journalistic duties at the paper which ran the original report, the Windy City Times.

      Gretchen Rachel Hammond — whose June 24 story caused a national storm after she detailed how three women flying Jewish Pride flags embossed with the Star of David were instructed to leave the gathering by organizers from the Dyke March Collective — confirmed to The Algemeiner on Monday that while she was still employed by the paper, she was not presently engaged in its reporting and writing operations.

      “At this time, I have not been fired from Windy City Times, but I have been transferred to working full time for the sales department,” Hammond explained in an emailed statement. “The reasoning is an internal matter and I have been instructed not to comment about it even to close friends. Given my present situation, I must comply with this instruction.”

      Given that the paper printed the story, I can’t see how that precipitated this. But ya never know………………


    147. eaglesoars
      150 | July 11, 2017 12:24 am

      off o bed. nite


    Back to the Top

    '
    The Blogmocracy

    website design was Built By All of Us