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  • The Neo-Cons Crawl Back To their Home

    by coldwarrior ( 86 Comments › )
    Filed under Elections 2016, Open thread, Politics at July 24th, 2017 - 9:49 am

    Don’t Let The Door Hit You in The Ass

     

    Indeed, though he has divided the country, President Trump has been a great unifier of neoliberal Democrats and neoconservative Republicans, who have come to see Russian plots against America at every turn. Neocons like Max Boot, David Frum, Bret Stephens and Bill Kristol are among the top Republican hawks who have become liberal darlings in the Trump era. Frum, the former George W. Bush speechwriter and coiner of the infamous phrase “axis of evil,” has become many liberals’ favorite neocon pundit on social media, while Stephens — a prominent climate-change denier — was hired earlier this year as a full-time columnist for the ostensibly liberal New York Times editorial page (not surprisingly, the Times was forced to issue a correction for his debut column defending climate-change skepticism).

    At the center of this alliance is not just a mutual antipathy for President Trump but a hostility towards Russia that recalls the paranoid years of the Cold War. Last week this hawkish alliance was made official when a new “bipartisan” group called Alliance for Securing Democracy was formed. This new advocacy group will be led by Laura Rosenberger, a former State Department official in the Obama administration, and Jamie Fly, a former national security adviser to Sen. Marco Rubio. Top Obama-era officials and Bush-era neocons will sit on the board of directors, including Clinton adviser Jake Sullivan, former ambassador to Russia Mike McFaul, Bush-era Homeland Security Secretary Mike Chertoff and none other than Bill Kristol, America’s leading chicken-hawk (who is known best for how wrong he has been in nearly all of his predictions).

    Glenn Greenwald summed up this new Trump era alliance in a recent article on The Intercept, noting that “on the key foreign policy controversies, there is now little to no daylight between leading Democratic Party foreign policy gurus and the Bush-era neocons who had wallowed in disgrace following the debacle of Iraq and the broader abuses of the war on terror.”

    The rest of the article is worth the read.

    I’ve said it a thousand times, the neo-cons are simply liberal/democrat whores who are pro-Israel, love war, and love sending other people’s kids to fight their ridiculous ideological and never-ending wars. Good Riddance, bastards. Go back home from where you came.

    Let the reformation of the Republican Party begin!

     

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    86 Responses to “The Neo-Cons Crawl Back To their Home”
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    1. coldwarrior
      1 | July 24, 2017 9:56 am

      i’ll GLADLY trade one west virginia coal miner for each one of these neo-con dirtbags. i’ll take the patrioitc and hard working former dems in the so called blue wall for each of the chickenhawks who decide to return home to the dems!


    2. 2 | July 24, 2017 12:31 pm

      Don’t know how accurate this is, but I saw something about 43% of Americans polled think Trump should be impeached.


    3. 3 | July 24, 2017 1:13 pm

      @ right_wing2:

      Just spit ballin’ here, but I’d like to see the way the question was phrased and the sample size. These polls always seem to OVER sample Democrats or UNDER sample Republicans, and are likely conducted mostly in blue states.


    4. RIX
      4 | July 24, 2017 1:32 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      I had a conversation about a week ago with some Never Trumpers about Trumps vision of Fair Trade.
      They saw absolutely no problem with goods being dumped here even if done by child labor at $4.00
      per day. See if you are paying $28.00 an hour wages and benefitsit’s your fault that you can’t compete.
      The are such free trade purists that we should not tariff, even if our goods are tariffed.
      Further, only Marxists agree with Trump on Fair Trade. Real intellectuals./


    5. coldwarrior
      5 | July 24, 2017 2:40 pm

      @ RIX:

      there is a reason the puritans were kicked out of england…


    6. coldwarrior
      6 | July 24, 2017 2:40 pm

      just back from the cigar store….

      oh yeah!


    7. coldwarrior
      7 | July 24, 2017 2:59 pm

      RIX wrote:

      The are such free trade purists that we should not tariff, even if our goods are tariffed.

      these are the morons who misquote adam smith


    8. 8 | July 24, 2017 3:06 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      i’ll GLADLY trade one west virginia coal miner for each one of these neo-con dirtbags. i’ll take the patrioitc and hard working former dems in the so called blue wall for each of the chickenhawks who decide to return home to the dems!

      You, and most of the rest of the world call them neo-cons. I personally prefer to identify them correctly, Marxist infiltrators sabotaging America from within the citadel’s gated walls.


    9. 9 | July 24, 2017 3:12 pm

      @ RIX:
      I think too many Americans look for ‘cheap’ when they buy. And of course you can’t really compete against someone paying $4/day and with no safety protections. We need to be willing to pay more for the things we buy.

      Just where would wages be if they’d kept up with the price index? Dad was able to support the family on his own. I couldn’t do that. Sure his job was better than a call center, but I wouldn’t even be able to support me on my pay. There is something wrong.


    10. coldwarrior
      10 | July 24, 2017 3:34 pm

      @ right_wing2:

      remember, there cannot be a revolution if there is a strong middle class. (marx)

      hence the reason for the attempt to destroy it by both parties over the past few decades. so sit down and shut up, serf. OBEY your masters.

      see how that works?


    11. coldwarrior
      11 | July 24, 2017 4:16 pm

      YAY!!!

      two peeps joined up!

      http://fah-web2.stanford.edu/awards/cached-certs/cert.Blogmocracy.26.jpg


    12. coldwarrior
      12 | July 24, 2017 4:28 pm

      ….aaaand it’s national tequila day….

      soooo a shot of don julio reposado or casa noble anejo will be in order with a nice cigar on the deck after the rugrats are tucked in.


    13. Aussie Infidel
      13 | July 24, 2017 7:19 pm

      I used to fly into a strip exactly like this one. It was called Lumina’s and it was in the West Sepik District of new Guinea. I wasn’t in a ‘flash’ high power to weight ration Porter. I was in a stock standard Cessna U-206. The secret was to ‘spot land’ on the tennis court sized ‘platform’ at the bottom of the hill and as soon as you were down immediately lift the flaps to stay planted and push on full power to maintain the momentum up the hill. Then get ready to chop the power just as you topped the top edge and spin the aircraft around on the upper platform and don’t go over the edge. The take-off was a piece of cake. The ground just dropped out from underneath your aircraft and you were flying in ground effect building speed until you were REALLY flying.

      I noticed that the guy doing the flying was called British. He is a Kiwi!

      Enjoy

      Cheers,


    14. Aussie Infidel
      14 | July 24, 2017 7:20 pm

      Limina = Lumi

      Bloody smat-arsed auto correction!

      Spit !

      🙂


    15. RIX
      15 | July 24, 2017 9:01 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ RIX:

      there is a reason the puritans were kicked out of england…

      Ain’t dat da truth.


    16. RIX
      16 | July 24, 2017 9:03 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      The are such free trade purists that we should not tariff, even if our goods are tariffed.

      these are the morons who misquote adam smith

      They have absolutely no idea of what the Wealth of nations was really all,about.


    17. RIX
      17 | July 24, 2017 9:08 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ RIX:
      I think too many Americans look for ‘cheap’ when they buy. And of course you can’t really compete against someone paying $4/day and with no safety protections. We need to be willing to pay more for the things we buy.

      Just where would wages be if they’d kept up with the price index? Dad was able to support the family on his own. I couldn’t do that. Sure his job was better than a call center, but I wouldn’t even be able to support me on my pay. There is something wrong.

      Just a thought, take all of the deep thinkers at let’s say the Weekly Standard and ask them to give up,their jobs
      to,foreign deep thinkers at $4.00 per day.


    18. coldwarrior
      18 | July 24, 2017 9:21 pm

      Schumer: New Plan “Will Unify The Democratic Party”; We Researched And Talked To “All Different Kinds Of People”

      the dems are gonna play fake-populist.

      this is gonna be hysterical!


    19. coldwarrior
      19 | July 24, 2017 9:27 pm

      RIX wrote:

      Just a thought, take all of the deep thinkers at let’s say the Weekly Standard and ask them to give up,their jobs
      to,foreign deep thinkers at $4.00 per day.

      my iq is pretty high, i hold 3 degrees in difficult subjects, two of which arent even remotely related. i know that i am smarter than those re-treads and just about all of the jabronies on the blogs who claim to be ‘free-traders’.

      i’m not impressed by word-whore pseudo-intellectuals or by willing fools who cant understand the basic concepts that adam smith was laying out.

      the gop is gonna re-align. we are gonna trade these millstones for guys who quarry stone. like i said, i’ll gladly trade one WVa coal-miner for that smug fuck-face bill krysrol any day.


    20. eaglesoars
      20 | July 24, 2017 9:35 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      I personally prefer to identify them correctly, Marxist

      Not all. Kristol and his ilk aren’t Marxist, they’re just insufferable snobs.


    21. Deplorable Bumr50
      21 | July 24, 2017 9:41 pm

      Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller

      n the most vocal opposition to president Donald Trump yet, former CIA Director John Brennan said that if the White House tries to fire special counsel Robert Mueller, government officials should refuse to follow the president orders, as they would be – in his view – “inconsistent” with the duties of the executive branch.

      “I think it’s the obligation of some executive branch officials to refuse to carry that out. I would just hope that this is not going to be a partisan issue. That Republicans, Democrats are going to see that the future of this government is at stake and something needs to be done for the good of the future,” Brennan told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer at the Aspen Security Forum, effectively calling for a coup against the president should Trump give the order to fire Mueller.

      Brennan appeared alongside his former colleague, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and both men who served in the Obama administration, told Blitzer they have total confidence in Mueller. “Absolutely. It was an inspired choice- they don’t come any better, ” Brennan said adding that “If Mueller is fired, I hope our elected reps will stand up and say enough is enough.” Some have responded with questions where Brennan’s devotion to the Constitution was in the aftermath of the events in Benghazi.

      Falling back on his neocon roots, James Clapper, who has waged a long-running vendetta with Trump, once again warned about Russian interference in US affairs. When asked about the June 2016 meeting between Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort with a Russian lawyer and others, he responded: “I’m an old school, Cold War warrior and all that – so I have, there’s truth in advertising, great suspicions about the Russians and what they do. A lot of this to me had kind of the standard textbook tradecraft long deployed by Russians. It would have been a really good idea maybe to have vetted whoever they were meeting with.”

      Clapper was also asked about Trump’s comparison of the intelligence community to Nazi Germany. Clapper said he called the President-elect nine days before he left the Obama administration saying he “couldn’t let that reference pass” and it was an insult to him, CIA Director John Brennan and the workforce. “That was a terrible, insulting affront, not just to me or John, we get paid the big bucks, but I’m talking about the rank and file, men and women, patriots and intelligence community — that was completely inappropriate and over the top – I had to do something about it.”

      And so he did: on the call Clapper said Trump asked him to “to put out a statement rebutting the contents of the dossier which I couldn’t and wouldn’t do. It was kind of transactional” referring to a dossier that alleged ties between President Donald Trump’s campaign and Russia. It was not clear if he wouldn’t and couldn’t do it because the contents were legitimate, in his view, or because the dossier is what started the whole “Russian collusion” narrative in the first place. Curiously, Clapper saw it as a favor to Trump not to issue a statement: Clapper was asked by Blitzer why he didn’t put out a statement replying: “The whole point of the dossier by the way was we felt an obligation to warn him to alert him to the fact it was out there. That was the whole point.”

      It was not clear if James Comey, whose subsequent leak to the NYT led to the appointment of Mueller, would have applied the same reasoning when asked by Trump to rebut the dossier’s contents.

      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-24/former-cia-director-calls-coup-if-trump-fires-mueller

      Vid at link.


    22. coldwarrior
      22 | July 24, 2017 9:44 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      doriangrey wrote:

      I personally prefer to identify them correctly, Marxist

      Not all. Kristol and his ilk aren’t Marxist, they’re just insufferable snobs.

      they are truly marxists. they are happy to redistribute american wealth elsewhere, ruin the wealth and power of the american middle class so that they can be in the leadership/elite positions over the new proletariat. their international marxists buddies in the countries who receive the re-distributed wealth are on board too, they get some manufacturing and am obedient worker class that is too fearful to revolt because they might lose their job.

      a powerful middle class talks back and doesnt take orders real well from elitists, a beat down and demoralized poor proletariat will listen like good little plebes.

      krystol and his ilk are from a long line of marxists, they just have some folks fooled.

      i’ve seen this play before.


    23. coldwarrior
      23 | July 24, 2017 9:46 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      Falling back on his neocon roots, James Clapper, who has waged a long-running vendetta with Trump, once again warned about Russian interference in US affairs. When asked about the June 2016 meeting between Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort with a Russian lawyer and others, he responded: “I’m an old school, Cold War warrior and all that – so I have, there’s truth in advertising, great suspicions about the Russians and what they do. A lot of this to me had kind of the standard textbook tradecraft long deployed by Russians. It would have been a really good idea maybe to have vetted whoever they were meeting with.”

      no, shitbrains, you are not an ‘old-school cold warrior’. you are a board-member of war inc. you neo-con bastard.


    24. coldwarrior
      24 | July 24, 2017 9:49 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      this crap isnt going to end until trump puts a couple of pelts up on the wall. i just dont think that AG sessions is up to the task.


    25. Deplorable Bumr50
      25 | July 24, 2017 9:49 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      I’ll bet it’s real comfy at the “Aspen Security Forum.”

      Whatever the f*ck that is, and whoever paid for it…


    26. coldwarrior
      26 | July 24, 2017 9:52 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      and whoever paid for it…

      i’ll take one guess.


    27. eaglesoars
      27 | July 24, 2017 9:54 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      i’ve seen this play before.

      I don’t deny that would be the end result. I just doubt any of them are smart enough to see it. Personally, I stopped buying the idea of their superior IQs long ago when I realized I can out-think the lot of them, and I’m a very low bar. They haven’t thought it thru because they can’t see past their own self-aggrandizement or the craw in their throats from being, finally, the irrelevant know-nothings they are. They believe their own bullshit, they’re just pissed that other people finally decided it’s stinking up the place.


    28. Deplorable Bumr50
      28 | July 24, 2017 9:56 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      Oh, yeah. Everyone’s all “Sessions was an early supporter!!” “It took courage!!”

      What the hell has he done in six months?

      Sessions apparently is a procedural and staid attorney. Which would be fine if we didn’t just have 8 years of AG’s Holder/Lynch.

      The only real risk in firing Sessions is popular support, which I don’t think is an issue as much as some talking heads have opined.


    29. coldwarrior
      29 | July 24, 2017 9:59 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      i have a feeling that trump is playing all these asshats. the end game should be great.

      he grew up in the toughest real estate market in the world, i’m confident he can handle these back-biters.


    30. Deplorable Bumr50
      30 | July 24, 2017 10:00 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      YOU WIN!!!

      Founded in 1950 by Chicago industrialist Walter Paepcke, the Aspen Institute (AI) seeks “to foster values-based leadership, encourag[e] individuals to reflect on the ideals and ideas that define a good society, and … provide a neutral and balanced venue for discussing and acting on critical issues.” The organization pursues these objectives by way of seminars, public conferences, issue-analysis forums, and young-leader fellowships.

      Encompassing a broad range of issues, many of AI’s policy-work programs are rooted in the belief that the United States is a nation whose history amounts largely to an unbroken narrative of injustice; that government intervention frequently represents the best remedy for social and economic problems; and that America’s deep-seated “structural racism,” while “harder to see than its previous incarnations,” is just as likely as its forerunner to “perpetuate racial group inequity.” This latter perspective is consistent with the views of a prominent AI board of trustees member, Henry Louis Gates.

      Among AI’s major programs are the following:

      The Ascend Program for Family Economic Security contends that nearly 40 percent of all U.S. children “live in low-income families” headed disproportionately by unmarried black women, and seeks “to increase the economic security and educational achievement of [these] vulnerable families.” Toward that end, Ascend has secured philanthropic commitments from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the Open Society Institute, the W.K. Kellogg Foundation, and several private family philanthropists.

      The Global Health and Development Program supports “innovative strategies for global health and poverty alleviation.” One such strategy is the creation of “government-led” and “community-based” health financing mechanisms that “increase access to equitable and quality health care.”

      AI’s Center for Native American Youth is dedicated to “improving the health, safety and overall well-being” of this allegedly maltreated demographic by means of policy development and advocacy, with special emphasis on suicide prevention.

      The Commission on No Child Left Behind seeks to “build support for improvements in federal education policy to spur academic achievement and close persistent achievement gaps,” particularly between white students and their black peers.

      The Economic Opportunities Program focuses on helping low-income individuals and communities “gain access to mainstream financial services,” and providing skills-training to prepare them to eventually succeed in the workplace.

      The Energy and Environment Program warns that “the circumpolar Arctic region is experiencing significant ecological change due to global climate change” caused by human industrial activity. This program partners with several organizations, including the Natural Resources Defense Center, and the World Wildlife Fund. Among the guest speakers who have appeared at some of AI’s annual Environment Forums are Bill McKibben, Carl Pope, Van Jones, and Cathy Zoi.

      The Middle East Programs (MEP) seek to foster “a peaceful resolution of all Middle East conflicts” and the development of “partnerships between the United States and the Muslim world.” One MEP initiative — rooted in the premise that Palestinian terrorism is caused by poverty — is the U.S.-Palestinian Partnership (USPP). This program aims to discourage Arab militancy against the West and Israel by “stimulating the Palestinian economy through sustainable economic development, job creation and training, and attracting foreign investment in the West Bank.” Key leaders of USPP include Ziad Asali and former U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright.

      The Agent Orange in Vietnam Program, supported by the Ford Foundation, endeavors “to raise awareness of the long-term effects” of the toxic defoliant used by U.S. troops in Southeast Asia during the 1960s.

      The Council of Women World Leaders is a network of current and former female presidents and prime ministers who strive to “mobilize the highest-level women leaders globally for collective action on issues of critical importance to women,” and to increase “the number, effectiveness, and visibility of women who lead at the highest levels in their countries.”

      The Global Initiative on Culture and Society “promotes the increasing recognition of the power of artistic and cultural expression to enrich human lives by provoking reflection, stimulating creative solutions to societal challenges, sustaining livelihoods, and illuminating the conditions necessary for social change.”

      The Congressional Program, professing political neutrality, “provides lawmakers with a stronger grasp of critical public policy issues” via high-level conferences that bring legislators together with academics and experts to explore various policy alternatives in such areas as energy security, U.S. relations with the Muslim world, nuclear proliferation, and education reform. In 2011, this program was bankrolled by the Asia Foundation, the Carnegie Corporation of New York, the ClimateWorks Foundation, the Ford Foundation, the Henry Luce Foundation, the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, the Rockefeller Foundation, and the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation.

      AI has numerous noteworthy connections to the billionaire philanthropist George Soros. For example, in August 2004 Soros and other wealthy Democrats gathered at the Institute to brainstorm ways in which they could use their fortunes to engineer the defeat of George W. Bush in the upcoming presidential election. That same year, Soros spoke at an AI seminar (which also featured an appearance by Al Gore) titled “America’s Role in the Fight Against Global Poverty.” In 2006 Aspen sponsored a Soros talk where the billionaire promoted his book The Age of Fallibility: Consequences of the War on Terror. Jim Spiegelman, Aspen’s director of communications, formerly worked as a “special assistant” to Soros. And Arjun Gupta, who serves on Aspen’s board of overseers, is a vice president with the Chatterjee Group which advises Soros and the Soros Fund Management Group.

      Soros’s Open Society Institute (OSI) has awarded the Aspen Institute numerous large grants over the years, including $50,000 in 2004, another $50,000 in 2005, $195,000 in 2008, and $125,000 in 2009. The latter grant was earmarked for “international human rights and international humanitarian law and their application in American jurisprudence.” In 2011, OSI funded AI’s publication of a report blaming the overrepresentation of blacks and Latinos in U.S. prison populations on “the failure of so many of our society’s institutions.”

      Soon after the inauguration of President Barack Obama in 2009, AI developed a close working relationship with the U.S. State Department. Said Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that year: “We can’t imagine a better partner than the Aspen Institute.”

      http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7681


    31. coldwarrior
      31 | July 24, 2017 10:09 pm

      time for a neat glass of don julio repasado and an Aging Room Pelo de Oro on the deck.

      bbl


    32. eaglesoars
      32 | July 24, 2017 10:12 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      The only real risk in firing Sessions is popular support, which I don’t think is an issue as much as some talking heads have opined.

      I agree that popular support would not be a factor in protecting Sessions’ job. Pot and increased civil asset forfeiture weren’t real high on the agenda for the people who voted for Trump.

      But loyalty and respectful treatment would be. Sessions had the balls to support Trump early before anyone else would, and seeming to throw him under the bus – to the NYT, no less – reeks of abuse of a loyal supporter.

      Personally, I think he should fire Sessions for the simple reason he’s letting Clinton get away with everything – a sin of omission. UNLESS they think that would lead to Russia which Sessions has recused himself from. If that’s the case, Sessions should resign.


    33. Deplorable Bumr50
      33 | July 24, 2017 10:22 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      But loyalty and respectful treatment would be. Sessions had the balls to support Trump early before anyone else would, and seeming to throw him under the bus – to the NYT, no less – reeks of abuse of a loyal supporter.

      I think the mistake was appointing Sessions in the first place.

      Regardless of his intentions, Sessions is a quintessential ‘insider.’

      He came ‘boxed in.’

      Trump needs an outsider at that position.


    34. RIX
      34 | July 24, 2017 10:27 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      Just a thought, take all of the deep thinkers at let’s say the Weekly Standard and ask them to give up,their jobs
      to,foreign deep thinkers at $4.00 per day.

      my iq is pretty high, i hold 3 degrees in difficult subjects, two of which arent even remotely related. i know that i am smarter than those re-treads and just about all of the jabronies on the blogs who claim to be ‘free-traders’.

      i’m not impressed by word-whore pseudo-intellectuals or by willing fools who cant understand the basic concepts that adam smith was laying out.

      the gop is gonna re-align. we are gonna trade these millstones for guys who quarry stone. like i said, i’ll gladly trade one WVa coal-miner for that smug fuck-face bill krysrol any day.

      You have proven my point in a most sagacious manner!


    35. eaglesoars
      35 | July 24, 2017 10:27 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      I had high hopes starting out. The man is honest personally. But civil asset forfeiture? Nope. Bye.

      bedtime. night.


    36. Deplorable Bumr50
      36 | July 24, 2017 10:44 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Night, eagles.


    37. AZfederalist
      37 | July 24, 2017 10:47 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      I had high hopes starting out. The man is honest personally. But civil asset forfeiture? Nope. Bye.

      bedtime. night.

      Yep, that was a deal breaker. The idea that the government can seize assets before someone is convicted, or even charged with a crime is antithetical to this country’s founding values. Pure statism. … and so easily abused, there are numerous horror stories of people who have had assets siezed and then found to be totally innocent, yet financially ruined because they could not get their assets back in a timely fashion.


    38. RIX
      38 | July 24, 2017 10:48 pm

      Goodnight you groovy people!


    39. Aussie Infidel
    40. Aussie Infidel
      40 | July 24, 2017 10:59 pm

      Been there done that got the T shirt.

      ….. and not in a Pilates Porter either, with heaps of power and a great STOL aircraft.

      Just in plain old Cessna U-206s … and no imagination of what could go wrong!

      I was 23 and totally bulletproof!… silly boy!


    41. Aussie Infidel
      41 | July 24, 2017 11:00 pm

    42. Aussie Infidel
      42 | July 24, 2017 11:01 pm

      Hmmmm can’t submit a mere website?
      http://giaman.com/s/96


    43. Aussie Infidel
      43 | July 24, 2017 11:01 pm

      There it is!

      🙂

      Enjoy


    44. AZfederalist
      44 | July 24, 2017 11:32 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Hmmmm can’t submit a mere website?
      http://giaman.com/s/96

      Holly Carp! Two big brass ones that one has!


    45. coldwarrior
      45 | July 24, 2017 11:46 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      There it is!

      Enjoy

      NICE!


    46. Aussie Infidel
      46 | July 24, 2017 11:49 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Hmmmm can’t submit a mere website?
      http://giaman.com/s/96

      Holly Carp! Two big brass ones that one has!

      Actually Kambitoro strip was a bit more problematic. It had a massive ironbark tree that had died years ago and the 20′ stump was right in the approach profile. You had to lift your wing over the stump as you passed or you couldn’t get lined up on the strip in time. The strip was canted left to right longitudinally so you needed a fair bit of left rudder after you landed to remain on the strip. It also washed out regularly so it often had deep washouts crossing the strip that you had to ‘miss’. It was just the side of a hill with the vegetation stripped off and a very very short, DEFINITE ONE WAY strip!

      Hey I was 23 !

      I thought I could walk on water!

      HEH!

      🙂


    47. 47 | July 24, 2017 11:50 pm

      @ AZfederalist:
      Uhhhh… no.


    48. coldwarrior
      48 | July 24, 2017 11:53 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      The idea that the government can seize assets before someone is convicted, or even charged with a crime is antithetical to this country’s founding values.

      how is that even remotely constitutional


    49. Aussie Infidel
      49 | July 24, 2017 11:54 pm

      The only way to get Kamby back in normal shape after a washout was to fly in a 50 gallon drum of Diesel tied down right behind my seat to refuel the tractor (scraper). I never thought that I was going to end up in a fireball but I did think about that 500 pound drum hanging by ropes behind my seat! When once I did arse up slightly and stood VH-IXP on its nose the ropes held and I didn’t end up as strawberry jam in the instrument panel.

      🙂


    50. coldwarrior
      50 | July 24, 2017 11:54 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Hey I was 23 !

      I thought I could walk on water!

      ignorance is bliss


    51. Aussie Infidel
      51 | July 24, 2017 11:57 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      AZfederalist wrote:

      The idea that the government can seize assets before someone is convicted, or even charged with a crime is antithetical to this country’s founding values.

      how is that even remotely constitutional

      OH YEAH!

      Both Customs and Inland Revenue can enter private property and seize ANYTHING they damn well want WITHOUT a warrant whenever they want.

      Same in the States mate!

      The government has no sense of humour when it comes to what they even believe that they are owed.

      You’d better believe it mate!

      🙂


    52. coldwarrior
      52 | July 25, 2017 12:01 am

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      we are supposed to be innocent UNTIL proven guilty. its one of the pesky limits to govt power written in the bill of rights.

      so again i ask, how is it constitutional?


    53. Aussie Infidel
      53 | July 25, 2017 12:03 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Hey I was 23 !

      I thought I could walk on water!

      ignorance is bliss

      Oh I wasn’t ignorant mate. I just thought that I could walk away from anything because I did on numerous occasions. Total lack of imagination and cock sure I could always survive because every time something I did!

      What the hell was I thinking??

      🙂


    54. Aussie Infidel
      54 | July 25, 2017 12:05 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      we are supposed to be innocent UNTIL proven guilty. its one of the pesky limits to govt power written in the bill of rights.

      so again i ask, how is it constitutional?

      Oh you’re still innocent but you are also stripped of assets and money until the government can figure out how much you owe it. They are just ‘keeping’ their options open by accessing your assets and money ….. for safe keeping until ‘the man’ can make up his mind!


    55. Aussie Infidel
      55 | July 25, 2017 12:06 am

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      Obviously I had a very scant knowledge of probability!

      🙂


    56. AZfederalist
      56 | July 25, 2017 12:09 am

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Hey I was 23 !

      I thought I could walk on water!

      HEH!

      What’s that statement, “There are old pilots, there are bold pilots, but there are no old bold pilots”


    57. AZfederalist
      57 | July 25, 2017 12:10 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      how is that even remotely constitutional

      Which Supreme Court allowed that to stand? Gotta have been one of the more liberal panels.


    58. AZfederalist
      58 | July 25, 2017 12:15 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      AZfederalist wrote:

      The idea that the government can seize assets before someone is convicted, or even charged with a crime is antithetical to this country’s founding values.

      how is that even remotely constitutional

      … adding to my previous post. This was done as part of the war on drugs, an excuse to let the government do this because it was for “law and order”. …. and after all, if it was done to keep children off drugs, to keep drug lords from being able to liquidate their ill-gotten gains before being convicted or charged, it was all good, right? Same with the original seizure laws — if you were caught making alcohol that the government didn’t tax, they could seize the property you had where you were making it. Why do you think moonshiners went out in the woods? So they wouldn’t lose their property when the revenuers showed up.


    59. coldwarrior
      59 | July 25, 2017 12:19 am

      @ AZfederalist:

      the war on drugs is the biggest farce in the history of government.


    60. Aussie Infidel
      60 | July 25, 2017 12:29 am

      AZfederalist wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Hey I was 23 !

      I thought I could walk on water!

      HEH!

      What’s that statement, “There are old pilots, there are bold pilots, but there are no old bold pilots”

      VERY true statement. I was also a VERY lucky pilot and lasted long enough the build up enough respect for the reality of operating in dangerous conditions to get smart.

      The worst ‘scare’ I had was at a mere 100 hours I ended up in a lethal situation made even worse by the fact that I had 3 females in the aircraft with me.

      An it’s a ‘now or never’ decision made too late. I was dumb. flying into a massive Southerly buster thunderstorm up a valley rising, narrowing and plugged up ahead with cloud. Then there was carburettor icing and all the carby anti-icing hot air I had, but still descending at 150 feet per minute with the power firewalled and with the stall warning beeping occasionally. Banking 60 degrees to turn inside the valley and entering cloud with only 5 hours total under the hood (practice instrument flying). Average lifespan of a non instrument rated pilot in cloud was 90 seconds. I heard myself shouting “trust the instruments…. trust the instruments”. Then I saw the tree tops flicking just beneath my port wingtip and I grabbed the mic and shouted Mayday, mayday, mayday Romeo Sierra Romeo Kangaroo Valley 4 aboard we’re going in. Threw the mic over my shoulder as it was extraneous … and waited for the impact.

      I missed EVERYTHING. The hill fell away faster than I was descending and as soon as East arrived on the compass I rolled out and the aircraft began to clime (but only at 150′ per minute. I was still sure that I was going to hit the mountain but we eventually popped out of cloud in one piece and I found my way to an emergency airfield and landed. That was only the opening shot in a very eventful day but the rest will remain for another time.

      :0

      See Bulletproof!

      🙂

      NOT!


    61. 61 | July 25, 2017 9:52 am

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Hmmmm can’t submit a mere website?
      http://giaman.com/s/96

      The Cargo cults are still alive and well I see.


    62. 62 | July 25, 2017 12:42 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      It can’t be, according to the Fifth Amendment:

      “…nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;”

      However, in Bennis v. Michigan , 517 U.S. 1163 (1996), the Court stated:

      It has long been settled that statutory forfeitures of property entrusted by the innocent owner or lienor to another who uses it in violation of the revenue laws of the United States is not a violation of the due process clause of the Fifth Amendment.

      What is surprising is that it was a 5-4 decision, with Souter, Breyer, Kennedy and Stevens dissenting.

      The Court gets it wrong sometimes. REALLY wrong. Like Dred Scott, Plessy, Sullivan, Roe v. Wade, Bakke, and Kelo wrong. You can only hope that the compelling case comes along to overturn.

      I have a real problem with the civil forfeiture laws. Clarence Thomas put it best recently in Leonard v. Texas: “because the law enforcement entity responsible for seizing the property often keeps it, these entities have strong incentives to pursue forfeiture.”

      Unfortunately, Justice Thomas assented in Bennis. Had he joined the dissent back in 1996, things might be different.


    63. 63 | July 25, 2017 2:10 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      Been trying to tell people for a long time, nobody actually owns their own home. This is one of those situations where the Democrat view point that all money and property belongs to the government and you are just holding on to it until they want it back exposes itself.


    64. 64 | July 25, 2017 2:25 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      Kelo was one of the worst decisions I’ve seen in a long time. The fortunate aspect was that in included language that said in effect that states and local communities could pass laws barring the taking of property for private use. Which means that immediate pressure was put on states to pass anti-Kelo legislation. If you’re curious where your state falls, here’s a handy guide with a grade score for each state:

      http://ij.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/50_State_Report.pdf

      DG – I’m sure it comes as no surprise that California is a D-.

      But you know why the liberal justices loved it – TAXES, TAXES, TAXES – that and the belief that they’d take MY house to put up something for the Section 8 crowd.


    65. coldwarrior
      65 | July 25, 2017 5:46 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      The fortunate aspect was that in included language that said in effect that states and local communities could pass laws barring the taking of property for private use. Which means that immediate pressure was put on states to pass anti-Kelo legislation.

      which is how it should be. local control, not federal. i liked that decision.


    66. coldwarrior
      66 | July 25, 2017 6:10 pm

      i see that the yapping asses dont know th definition of beleaguered: lay seige to, beset with difficulties.

      http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/congress/article163424468.html

      interesting…by rushing to the defense of sessions, the senate gopsters run cover for hillary.

      why indeed, Mr President, why indeed.


    67. 67 | July 25, 2017 7:27 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      Oh, in that aspect, I completely agree with you. It should be local control, for sure. However, they should have refused cert instead of making it law of the land.

      In the case of Sessions, frankly I agree with Trump. If he had known that Sessions would have folded like a cheap card table on the issue of the Russia investigation and jumped to do the Senate’s (read Democrats’) bidding, I DO doubt that he wouldn’t have appointed him. There was no reason for that recusal. He should have pulled a Loretta Lynch and said he “wouldn’t get involved.” Worked for Beastie’s problem.


    68. lobo91
      68 | July 25, 2017 7:38 pm

      Justice Dept Imposes New Rules Requiring ‘Sanctuary Cities’ Give Feds Access To Jails, Notice On Releases

      The Department of Justice today posted a solicitation for the Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance Grant Programs (“Byrne JAG”). Recipients for FY 2017 will be notified of new conditions of their grants that will increase information sharing between federal, state, and local law enforcement, ensuring that federal immigration authorities have the information they need to enforce immigration laws and keep our communities safe.

      “So-called ‘sanctuary’ policies make all of us less safe because they intentionally undermine our laws and protect illegal aliens who have committed crimes,” Attorney General Jeff Sessions said. “These policies also encourage illegal immigration and even human trafficking by perpetuating the lie that in certain cities, illegal aliens can live outside the law. This can have tragic consequences, like the 10 deaths we saw in San Antonio this weekend.


    69. coldwarrior
      69 | July 25, 2017 8:15 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:
      I see that our whore senators also cant seem to figure out that the DOJ is independent of the executive and Trump is treating it as such.

      The corruption runs deep in the swsmp.


    70. RIX
      70 | July 25, 2017 8:54 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:
      Hey DB, I agree with you about Sessions, he blindsided Trump.This is why we have the agenda driven Muller
      on a witch hunt. Sessions has lost the confidence of the President and should resign.
      But Sessions is a good soldier and the first senator to back Trump. I. wish that this could be handled so that
      Sessions is not stripped of his dignity.


    71. Deplorable Bumr50
      71 | July 25, 2017 8:57 pm

      @ RIX:

      I think Trump is pressuring Sessions.


    72. RIX
      72 | July 25, 2017 9:01 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ RIX:
      I think too many Americans look for ‘cheap’ when they buy. And of course you can’t really compete against someone paying $4/day and with no safety protections. We need to be willing to pay more for the things we buy.

      Just where would wages be if they’d kept up with the price index? Dad was able to support the family on his own. I couldn’t do that. Sure his job was better than a call center, but I wouldn’t even be able to support me on my pay. There is something wrong.

      Guys who are willing to work are just trying to feed their family.
      The blue collar population are really the backbone of this society , but are ridicule by the identity politics crew.


    73. RIX
      73 | July 25, 2017 9:03 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ RIX:

      I think Trump is pressuring Sessions.

      No question about it. Sessions is a good guy , but has lost the Presidents confidence and should resign.


    74. RIX
      74 | July 25, 2017 9:08 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:
      Bumr, I am curious. The other night you mentioned an encounter with some rabid Never Trumpers.
      Were you on a blog?


    75. Deplorable Bumr50
      75 | July 25, 2017 9:13 pm

      @ RIX:

      You misunderstand.

      I think Trump is pressuring Sessions to get on board.

      That might not be how it’s perceived by almost anyone but Trump, but I think that’s what he’s trying to do.

      Just like he’d do to a recalcitrant or outright rebellious board member.


    76. Deplorable Bumr50
      76 | July 25, 2017 9:21 pm

      @ RIX:

      Give me a sec, I’m trying to recall.

      If you notice, they’re not really mad at Trump, they’re mad at US, the Trump voter.

      I voted for Trump not just because I thought he was the best candidate, but because I thought he was the ONLY one who could win.

      Ted Cruz, the second best option, can’t win a national election. Period.

      The candidates who could come close were exactly one: Marco Rubio. No thanks.


    77. Deplorable Bumr50
      77 | July 25, 2017 9:33 pm

      @ RIX:

      Wasn’t a blog. Disqus. Maybe at Truth Revolt.


    78. Deplorable Bumr50
      78 | July 25, 2017 9:40 pm

      @ RIX:

      Ben Howe is a particularly execrable piece of, er, work.


    79. RIX
      79 | July 25, 2017 9:42 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:
      Thanks. Your point stands. the Never Trumpers are an exceedingly nasty group, lots of anger.


    80. RIX
      80 | July 25, 2017 10:03 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ RIX:

      Ben Howe is a particularly execrable piece of, er, work.

      A guy from Red State with that goof ball Eric Erickson.


    81. AZfederalist
      82 | July 25, 2017 10:56 pm

      RIX wrote:

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:
      Thanks. Your point stands. the Never Trumpers are an exceedingly nasty group, lots of anger.

      To the point they have become like Chuckie — banning those who dare disagree with them


    82. 83 | July 26, 2017 9:19 am

      Frank Sinatra’s widow Barbra Sinatra passed away yesterday.


    83. 84 | July 26, 2017 9:41 am

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      I agree – I’m totally onboard with Cruz’s positions politically but no, he hasn’t the charisma to be a national electable figure. A lot of people hope Trump appoints him to the Supreme Court, and while I have certain reservations about Supreme Court appointments of those that have no practicable experience in appellate decision practice. Earl Warren, anyone? Elena Kagan? They generally lack the ability to synthesize opposing briefings and tend to rely too heavily on their clerks, who always have an agenda. Cruz might be an exception, having dealt with appellate courts on a regular basis, and we’d have the plus of a lifetime appointment that would bring a conservative sway that would bolster Alito, Thomas and Gorsuch – maybe even enough to put Roberts back on the correct path.


    84. 85 | July 26, 2017 9:43 am

      @ doriangrey:

      Very classy lady. Widow of one of the Marx Brothers as I recall.

      Loving the genuine scandale that Crackhead Barbie, aka, Blabbermouth-Schultz, is finding herself regarding that ITA she coddled. My my my, he was arrested at Dallas Airport trying to leave the country. Arrested on bank fraud.


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