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    by coldwarrior ( 174 Comments › )
    Filed under Open thread at September 13th, 2017 - 5:51 am

    Wring yinzelves out and enjoy this open

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    1. Aussie Infidel
      1 | September 13, 2017 7:16 am

      Up to a third of properties destroyed or badly damaged and just a dozen tragically passed away. That is a miracle …. and a great ‘this is how it’s supposed to be done example.

      The next time some anti- trump wobble mouths about how nothing gets done just reply IRMA FLORIDA 2017 and then turn and walk away before their head explodes.


    2. RIX
      2 | September 13, 2017 8:33 am

      http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/12/hurricane-telethon-gets-political-right-at-the-start-video/
      @ Daily Caller
      Good morning. Thank God for celebrities, I did not know what I thought of Global Warming/Climate Change
      until now. Now that fine scientific minds like Stevie Wonder and Beyoncé have weighed in I get it.


    3. eaglesoars
      3 | September 13, 2017 9:20 am

      Tom Tancredo got a raw deal years ago because he started yelping about illegal immigration and everybody thought he was SUCH an ugly person. He isn’t and he was right, but he lost his seat. Anyhoo, he was at a dinner with Paul Ryan and others and spilled the beans to Breitbart.

      House Speaker Paul Ryan, at a private dinner earlier this year, said he thought only “one member” wanted to build a wall across the entire U.S.-Mexico border
      []
      Of course he means only one person in his entourage and of the leadership,” he told Breitbart News. “I know several people in Congress who want a wall and I know that there are millions of Americans who want a wall.”

      “You have to understand the level of fear that exists in the Republican establishment about this issue,” Tancredo told Breitbart News, seeking to explain the pressures that Republican members of Congress face when addressing immigration.

      “The Chamber of Commerce doesn’t want a wall … the pressure is greater from the Chamber of Commerce than it is from the members,”

      and another member talks about the general ignorance in Congress about the issue. Altho I don’t know how anybody can be ignorant about it at this point.


    4. lobo91
      4 | September 13, 2017 9:27 am

      Hillary has truly lost it


    5. eaglesoars
      5 | September 13, 2017 9:44 am

      lobo91 wrote:

      Hillary has truly lost it

      the ogre in that story is the mother. the good news is that Hillary is the best the Dems can come up with.


    6. eaglesoars
      6 | September 13, 2017 9:51 am

      Amid wild applause, Clinton made her way up to a raised platform, and then . . . she sat down and started signing. No hello to the crowd, no thanks for the hours of waiting — let alone decades of support — no apology for or acknowledgment of being an hour late, or losing the most consequential election in American history. Not a single word. She just started signing.

      Waiting patiently to Hillary’s right, mere feet from her stage, was a line of wheelchair-bound seniors. “Hey guys, I need everybody to move over this way,” one staffer directed, as if that were so easy. Another staffer hijacked a fan’s wheelchair, saying, “We’re going for a ride,” while moving the fan aside.

      Another attendee approached the officials. “She’s not going to speak?”

      “This is all you’re getting,” came the reply.


    7. 7 | September 13, 2017 12:12 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      They’ve been graced with her presence. What more do they expect?


    8. eaglesoars
      8 | September 13, 2017 12:40 pm

      Looks like Mike Cernovich knows whereof he speaks when it comes to McMaster

      EXCLUSIVE: Gen. McMaster Sparked a Row With the Israeli Delegation at a White House Meeting on Hezbollah

      The Israeli delegation demanded that Mustafa Javed Ali leave the room.

      This demand was made despite the clear likelihood that Ali would later be privy to the meeting’s materials and discussion. As such, sources speculated that Israel intended the demand to serve as a message to President Trump that McMaster’s behavior has constituted a subversion of Trump’s stated Middle East policy.

      []
      Friction between General McMaster and the Israeli delegation did not end with Israel’s demand that Ali leave the room.

      Sources reported that McMaster went on to explicitly dismiss the Israelis’ specific concerns about Hezbollah.

      In particular, the Israelis expressed concern that the “safe zone” currently being established within Syria — an idea that had been vociferously supported by Hezbollah’s sponsor, Iran — would immediately become a safe zone for Hezbollah to operate.

      McMaster was said to “blow off” this major Israeli concern, and to be “yelling at the Israelis” during the meeting.

      not good


    9. eaglesoars
      9 | September 13, 2017 12:44 pm

      …Earlier this year, Ali was rumored to have caused the cancellation of a scheduled talk to the NSC by Ayaan Hirsi Ali on account of her “Islamophobia….I have previously reported here at PJMedia of an extensive public relations push — coordinated by administration supporters of General McMaster — to encourage conservative outlets and think-tanks to reject claims that McMaster is antagonistic to Trump’s foreign policy and to the State of Israel in general.

      ever worser. and I do recall seeing those stories trying to rehab McMaster and thinking how transparent they were


    10. eaglesoars
      10 | September 13, 2017 12:48 pm

      this is from Caroline Glick’s utterly damning profile of McMaster

      In May, Adam Lovinger, a pro-Trump national security strategist on loan from the Pentagon’s office of net assessment was summarily informed that his security clearance was revoked. He was fired and escorted from the White House like a spy and put on file duty at the Pentagon.

      Lovinger is a seasoned strategic analyst who McMaster hated because he supported India over Pakistan, among other things.

      Lovinger has not been told the grounds for his sudden loss of clearance but Mike Cernovich reported that the grounds were that he traveled to Israel for a family bar mitzvah. In other words, there were no grounds for dismissal. His boss at the Pentagon — unbelievably named James Baker, is an Obama hire who hates Trump and supports Obama’s agenda.
      As for Iran, well, suffice it to say that McMaster supports the deal and refuses to publish the side deals Obama signed with the Iranians and then hid from the public.

      The thing I can’t get my arms around in all of this is why in the world this guy hasn’t been fired

      I never thought I’d say this but….where’s Ivanka when you need her?


    11. RIX
      11 | September 13, 2017 1:40 pm

      http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/09/get-rid-clown-trump-national-security-adviser-mcmaster-says-hezbollah-not-terrorist-group/
      @ Gateway Pundit
      Anybody know what the story is on McMaster?


    12. coldwarrior
      12 | September 13, 2017 2:48 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      I never thought I’d say this but….where’s Ivanka when you need her?

      idont like her or her husband.

      i didnt vote for either of them


    13. eaglesoars
      13 | September 13, 2017 3:06 pm

      @ RIX:

      might want to read upthread a bit

      anybody ever heard of The Senate Leadership Fund? Me neither. This is an org that is focused solely on re-electing Republican incumbants whatever their political suasion and is apparently run by Mitch McConnell cronies. Kingmakers. THAT is what Steve Bannon is threatening. He’s apparently lining up deep-pocketed pro-Trump donors to try to be a kingmaker in his own right.

      McConnell is a ruthless son of a bitch, but he may have meet his match in Bannon.

      Given his reported intention to target occasional Trump skeptics in the Senate, including Tennessee’s Bob Corker, Mississippi’s Roger Wicker, Nevada’s Dean Heller, and Arizona’s Jeff Flake, Bannon’s forces will be coming up against McConnell’s in the near future. For their sake, here’s hoping that by then the Senate Leadership Fund comes up with a more subtle line of attack. Otherwise, the Republican civil war will be a short one.

      didn’t Bob Corker just announce he’s not going to run again?


    14. eaglesoars
      14 | September 13, 2017 3:10 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      idont like her or her husband.

      i didnt vote for either of them

      yeah, I got pissed off early and often about those 2 dilettantes. But they ARE observant Jews who just might pop off about Israel. Kelly may be controlling access to Trump during office hours but don’t tell me Ivanka can’t pick up the phone and tell Melania she’d like to talk to her father.


    15. 15 | September 13, 2017 4:48 pm

      @ RIX:

      That’s a pretty damn low amount – I would have thought with it being on multiple channels that they’d get closer to $100 million. Also, there is real distrust about where this money ultimately goes. I remember both United Way and Red Cross taking huge sums of money people contributed for 9/11 victims and allocating it to other projects. I wasn’t a huge fan of Bill O’Reilly, but he DID pressure the celebrities that organized the telethon to get the organizations to give the money to the victims.

      Maybe next time, Telethon organizers, ask your so-called Celebrities to maybe shut the eff up about politics and climate change and the conservatives won’t switch the channel.


    16. 16 | September 13, 2017 4:57 pm

      Note to ESPN:

      While you think bringing over the well-named Sergio Dipp to do sideline commentary Monday night and embarrassing himself on national television by making ridiculous comments about diversity and sounding like Billy Madison with a head injury (h/t Hot Air), here’s something you need to know.

      Conservatives and the right wing don’t give a flying FIG about the color of our coaches, our QB’s, our offense or our defense. All we care about is that they win the game….

      …. and not disrespect the anthem.


    17. RIX
      17 | September 13, 2017 5:05 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Gotta go for Brannon if it’s game on.


    18. RIX
      18 | September 13, 2017 5:10 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:
      I did some work with the Red Cross years ago that required income info. I could not believe what the
      pay themselves. I always feel good with the Salvation Army and Catholic Chrities ( Separate Corporation)


    19. 19 | September 13, 2017 5:13 pm

      @ RIX:

      Another good one is Samaritan’s Purse. 4 of 4 stars.


    20. RIX
      20 | September 13, 2017 5:29 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      @ RIX:

      Another good one is Samaritan’s Purse. 4 of 4 stars.

      Yeah, that is an honest charity.


    21. eaglesoars
      21 | September 13, 2017 5:33 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      ESPN doesn’t care about conservatives, Disney who owns ESPN is headed by Bob Eiger who is as big a Hollywood freak as you can find and I will BET you every one of those telethon celebutards flew in on their private jets.

      ESPN Suspended Linda Cohn, Let Jemele Hill Slide


    22. 22 | September 13, 2017 5:35 pm

      Milo is going to bring a Navy SEAL Squad when he, Shapiro, Bannon, Coulter and Geller come to Berkeley next week. I’m almost tempted to go over there after work…..

      I tell you, if there was ever a successor to Andy Breitbart, it isn’t Bannon, Marlowe or Nolte – its effing MILO!!!


    23. 23 | September 13, 2017 5:36 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Of course they did. And I’d like to know how much each one of those celebrities contributed. Trump gave $1,000,000; how much did the Obamas give, the Clintons, Kerry, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer…..


    24. coldwarrior
      24 | September 13, 2017 5:44 pm

      @ RIX:

      i give at my church only. money goes to orthodox relief which provides clean water/sanitation in natural disasters.

      i wont give to any one else after the united way/red cross crap.


    25. coldwarrior
      25 | September 13, 2017 5:46 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      espn unit is going to be sold off. mark my words


    26. 26 | September 13, 2017 5:48 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      I give to two charities – St. Jude’s and Wounded Warriors. BTW, if anyone knows a better charitable organization for our wounded vets, please direct me to them. I’m starting to hear things about overhead and monies not going where they should, altough they still have a 4-star rating.


    27. eaglesoars
      27 | September 13, 2017 5:59 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      espn unit is going to be sold off. mark my words

      oh it’s KILLING Disney so I can imagine they’d want to unload it but who in their right mind would buy it?

      Al Gore? Oh wait, is that really as crazy as it sounds?


    28. eaglesoars
      28 | September 13, 2017 6:01 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      if there was ever a successor to Andy Breitbart, it isn’t Bannon, Marlowe or Nolte – its effing MILO!!!

      hmmmm, I would have said Bannon but you may have a point.


    29. 29 | September 13, 2017 6:17 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      espn unit is going to be sold off. mark my words

      I hear Disney’s stock is taking a hit. Wait’ll ESPN has to start giving back advertising $$ because they did not deliver the promised audience numbers. I hear that both Fox and CBS had to run some commercials for free near the end of the season last year because advertisers complained that they bought spots based on XYZ viewing audience size and the numbers were far below it.


    30. 30 | September 13, 2017 6:19 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Bannon has the smarts, for sure, but to me Milo has Andy’s sense of play and street theater and reach to the popular culture.

      I mean, one lasting image I have of Andy is at the Occupy Los Angeles event wearing running shorts and roller blades.


    31. 31 | September 13, 2017 6:20 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      You know who I would love to see buy it?

      RUSH LIMBAUGH.


    32. eaglesoars
      32 | September 13, 2017 6:25 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      you’re right about Milo/Bannon. Owing an entertainment network isn’t Rush’s lane – he IS the entertainment.

      You know who I would like to see buy it?

      The Trump Organization.

      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

      ok, I need food.


    33. RIX
      33 | September 13, 2017 6:34 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ RIX:

      i give at my church only. money goes to orthodox relief which provides clean water/sanitation in natural disasters.

      i wont give to any one else after the united way/red cross crap.

      We had the scandal in my parish and they tried to cover it up. I only contribute to the poor box there.


    34. eaglesoars
      34 | September 13, 2017 6:35 pm

      Here’s another asshole. Tim Cook who just released a $1k phone because who doesn’t want to spend a grand on a freaking phone?

      Tim Cook talks about the new Apple Park campus and its 100% reliance on renewable energy

      100% renewable huh? I wanna see the parking lot.


    35. RIX
      35 | September 13, 2017 6:44 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:

      I give to two charities – St. Jude’s and Wounded Warriors. BTW, if anyone knows a better charitable organization for our wounded vets, please direct me to them. I’m starting to hear things about overhead and monies not going where they should, altough they still have a 4-star rating.

      Gary Sinese Rockin For The Troops is good. I go to the concerts and contribute. If it ever comes near you
      it’s a great day with great music too.


    36. lobo91
      37 | September 13, 2017 7:22 pm

      Chelsea Manning Named Visiting Fellow at Harvard Kennedy School’s Institute of Politics

      The John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University has named convicted felon and transgender activist Chelsea Manning as a visiting fellow at its Institute of Politics for the 2017-18 academic year.

      Harvard’s announcement of its incoming class of visiting fellows at the Institute of Politics celebrates Manning’s inclusion as the program’s “first transgender fellow.”

      The Kennedy School describes Manning in its press release as “a Washington, D.C. based network security expert and former U.S. Army intelligence analyst.”


    37. RIX
      38 | September 13, 2017 7:28 pm

      @ lobo91:
      Hmmm, the skipped traitor.


    38. 39 | September 13, 2017 8:05 pm

      @ RIX:

      I’m actually on the list for Gary’s Lt. Dan Band tour

      @ lobo91:

      Send your kids to Dartmouth instead.


    39. 40 | September 13, 2017 8:11 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Here’s another asshole. Tim Cook who just released a $1k phone because who doesn’t want to spend a grand on a freaking phone?

      Tim Cook talks about the new Apple Park campus and its 100% reliance on renewable energy

      100% renewable huh? I wanna see the parking lot.

      You know, even people I know who can afford it, who buy every Apple product known to man – iMac, iPhone, iPod, iPad, MacBook Air – have already told me there is no way they’re buying a $1K phone. In fact, many of them aren’t all that crazy about upgrading to the iPhone 8 at this moment.

      And in about half the cases I know of, people will be switching to the Samsung Galaxy when they “upgrade” because if I understand them correctly, it’s about half the cost.


    40. 41 | September 13, 2017 8:14 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Well, Trump said he wanted to get his own cable channel….But can you imagine those whiney lib dirtbags if Rush and a conservative combine bought ESPN? It’d be like illegals self-deporting when Trump was elected.


    41. Aussie Infidel
      42 | September 13, 2017 8:43 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ RIX:

      i give at my church only. money goes to orthodox relief which provides clean water/sanitation in natural disasters.

      i wont give to any one else after the united way/red cross crap.

      Me too mate!

      I saw with my own eyes how money was disseminated through the missions in New Guinea. Of every dollar donated about 65 cents never left the country and was absorbed by internal costs ~15% and financing R&R centres for front line missioners back in their home countries. Of the remaining 35 % about 25% never got past the coastal region where the bureaucrats got funded to run the administration and pay for staff and building maintenance. The remaining 10% went to the front line where the Missionary rubber hit the road.

      The front line guys who were living in grass huts (literally) in true third world conditions and tending their flock by providing education, medical treatment, food and clean water got just 10% or 10 cents in the original dollar donated. Most of the coastal bureaucratic elites never ventured deeper into the hinterland;and and lived a fairly reasonable First World existence. The true Missioners doing the actual good stuff were suffering, poor food, dodgy water (with the locals as well) , isolation and disease (Dengue Fever Malaria and TB) long hours in primitive conditions and were doing unbelievable stuff on virtually little or no resources. Most of the coastal bureaucrats were to afraid to even visit the deep bush (jungle) to visit their ‘flock’. I had a foot in both camps. I lived on the coast although I was isolated from the bureaucrats (thankfully) and lived fairly rough (but a hell of a lot better than the missionaries in the bush) But my working day was spent deep in the bush flying as a bush pilot and experiencing the deprivation felt by those ‘saints’ who did the wonderful stuff on a daily basis.

      I developed a real contempt for the deployed coastal bureaucrats living first world lives in Third World conditions, and especially those who lived high on the hog back in the West on the money donated for ‘The Missions!’


    42. Aussie Infidel
      43 | September 13, 2017 8:47 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      I’ll just leave this here while I finish up the pasta

      WILLISTON, Vt. (AP) — A Vermont police department is asking for help identifying a suspect wearing a panda costume believed to have stolen an airsoft rifle from a sports store.

      Lay a trap.

      Lots of free tender bamboo shoots and cheap airlift ammunition.

      When the Panda shows up. Whampppp.
      aaammm

      Got the bastard!

      🙂


    43. Aussie Infidel
      44 | September 13, 2017 8:51 pm

      Into the home straight with the China stuff.

      Actually signing stuff and that is always a good sign!

      🙂

      Ms. PLA (the finance and money lady) awaits as do the Kiwi manufacturers and the Chinese merchandisers and wholesalers.

      Wish me luck guys!

      Tally Ho!

      🙂


    44. RIX
      45 | September 13, 2017 9:27 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      @ RIX:

      I’m actually on the list for Gary’s Lt. Dan Band tour

      @ lobo91:

      Send your kids to Dartmouth instead.

      You will have a good time.


    45. Deplorable Bumr50
      46 | September 13, 2017 9:46 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      And in about half the cases I know of, people will be switching to the Samsung Galaxy when they “upgrade” because if I understand them correctly, it’s about half the cost.

      Not by much.

      A Galaxy S8 costs around $750.

      The S8+ I’m currently paying off cost $830 without my discount for being a grandfathered Verizon plan holder.


    46. eaglesoars
      47 | September 13, 2017 9:55 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      And in about half the cases I know of, people will be switching to the Samsung Galaxy when they “upgrade” because if I understand them correctly, it’s about half the cost.

      do not get an iPhone. It’s the most hackable device in the world. Get A Samsung Galaxy S7. John McAffee swears by it,says nobody’s been able to get into his for a year.


    47. coldwarrior
      48 | September 13, 2017 10:02 pm

      i have a galaxy note 4. this phone is bulletproof. the only better phone i had was a motorola rubberized/nextel/industrial flip phone. that thing was so tough. it put up with really insane abuse.

      next up is the note 8. the 4 will go to the puti in a locked mode.


    48. coldwarrior
      49 | September 13, 2017 10:03 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      our guys do one thing and do it well.

      clean water and sanitation


    49. coldwarrior
      50 | September 13, 2017 10:04 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Wish me luck guys!

      Tally Ho!

      target rich environment


    50. eaglesoars
      51 | September 13, 2017 10:30 pm

      Trump just gave away the store. They just announced via PELOSI that DACA remains and they’ve got border security with no wall.

      That must have been one hell of a dinner.


    51. eaglesoars
    52. coldwarrior
      53 | September 13, 2017 10:40 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      @ eaglesoars:

      there is propaganda and then there is action.

      i will wait for action before gettin really pissed off.


    53. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      54 | September 13, 2017 10:40 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      Bannon has the smarts, for sure, but to me Milo has Andy’s sense of play and street theater and reach to the popular culture.

      I mean, one lasting image I have of Andy is at the Occupy Los Angeles event wearing running shorts and roller blades.

      One thing Milo did was embrace the 4Chan internet troll culture. That really helped bring in a chaotic bunch of lunatics with a wicked sense of humor to help skewer the left and political correctness.


    54. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      55 | September 13, 2017 10:44 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Here’s another asshole. Tim Cook who just released a $1k phone because who doesn’t want to spend a grand on a freaking phone?

      Tim Cook talks about the new Apple Park campus and its 100% reliance on renewable energy

      100% renewable huh? I wanna see the parking lot.

      You know, even people I know who can afford it, who buy every Apple product known to man – iMac, iPhone, iPod, iPad, MacBook Air – have already told me there is no way they’re buying a $1K phone. In fact, many of them aren’t all that crazy about upgrading to the iPhone 8 at this moment.

      And in about half the cases I know of, people will be switching to the Samsung Galaxy when they “upgrade” because if I understand them correctly, it’s about half the cost.

      That’s pretty accurate if they go with one of the galaxies already on the market. However, the next big flagship phone is the Note 8, which will come out at …….$1000.

      It’s a brave new world, and damned expensive.


    55. eaglesoars
      56 | September 13, 2017 10:47 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      @ eaglesoars:

      there is propaganda and then there is action.

      i will wait for action before gettin really pissed off.

      yeah, but I’m locked and loaded.


    56. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      57 | September 13, 2017 10:49 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      @ eaglesoars:

      there is propaganda and then there is action.

      i will wait for action before gettin really pissed off.

      yeah, but I’m locked and loaded.

      I’d love it if he let Pelousy walk out and give this speech, and then do exactly the opposite.


    57. eaglesoars
      58 | September 13, 2017 10:50 pm

      Schumer’s press secretary has issued a clarification

      The President made clear he would continue pushing the wall, just not as part of this agreement.

      ok, what does ‘this agreement’ look like?


    58. eaglesoars
      59 | September 13, 2017 10:56 pm

      Source close to WH just texted me “Pelosi has advanced Alzheimer’s. The Wall is going up.”

      This is Jack Posobiec and he does have WH sources


    59. Deplorable Bumr50
      60 | September 13, 2017 10:56 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Nobody knows.

      It looks like a Schumer spokesperson came out to the AP and simply lied about it.


    60. AZfederalist
      61 | September 13, 2017 11:01 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      The Kennedy School describes Manning in its press release as “a Washington, D.C. based network security expert and former U.S. Army intelligence analyst.”

      Oh good grief! … and Baby Face Nelson was a “banking security expert”


    61. Deplorable Bumr50
      62 | September 13, 2017 11:04 pm

      I saw a news piece earlier today that Mnuchin announced that the Trump tax reform plan backdates to Jan 1.


    62. eaglesoars
      63 | September 13, 2017 11:05 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      It looks like a Schumer spokesperson came out to the AP and simply lied about it.

      no, it was – I think – Pelosi who misspoke or both she and Schumer spoke in a misleading manner.

      They seem to have come to an agreement on DACA but have tabled discussions on the wall.

      Without a wall there is no border security and with no border security it doesn’t matter what they do about DACA.

      I’m not happy. I’m going to go read about the Chinese. nite.


    63. AZfederalist
      64 | September 13, 2017 11:06 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      And in about half the cases I know of, people will be switching to the Samsung Galaxy when they “upgrade” because if I understand them correctly, it’s about half the cost.

      Not by much.

      A Galaxy S8 costs around $750.

      The S8+ I’m currently paying off cost $830 without my discount for being a grandfathered Verizon plan holder.

      Federalist Jr changed to a Galaxy when his Apple was up for trade in a couple of years ago. I hate the thing, it has caused more data over-runs because after each billing period, it decided to automatically update the OS and used up 90% of his data allocation. He learned how to turn that off, but when updates happen and some resets cause it to revert to data hog mode.

      I’ll buy an Apple before a Galaxy


    64. Deplorable Bumr50
      65 | September 13, 2017 11:08 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Get the skinny on a GOOD hot and sour soup.

      Nite!


    65. Deplorable Bumr50
      66 | September 13, 2017 11:11 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      I HATE Apple as a corporation so much so that I’ll never give them any money.

      But there’s a setting on Galaxy devices that only allows an update when connected to WiFi.

      If you don’t have a router, then that’s a problem.


    66. coldwarrior
      67 | September 13, 2017 11:15 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      Federalist Jr changed to a Galaxy when his Apple was up for trade in a couple of years ago. I hate the thing, it has caused more data over-runs because after each billing period, it decided to automatically update the OS and used up 90% of his data allocation. He learned how to turn that off, but when updates happen and some resets cause it to revert to data hog mode.

      I’ll buy an Apple before a Galaxy

      galaxys/android let you decide how it runs, there is a learning curve.

      apples dont. i’ve owned glaxy’s since the first model came out and will be getting the note 8 here pretty shortly.

      i wouldnt touch an apple product if you paid me.

      (my first and only apple product was an apple II plus.) dammit, i’m OLD!


    67. coldwarrior
      68 | September 13, 2017 11:15 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      (my first and only apple product was an apple II plus.) dammit, i’m OLD!

      GET OFF MY LAWN DAMNED KIDS!!!

      😆


    68. AZfederalist
      69 | September 13, 2017 11:16 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      But there’s a setting on Galaxy devices that only allows an update when connected to WiFi.

      Yes, that was found. However, there have been times it has reset itself and caused data overages.


    69. Deplorable Bumr50
      70 | September 13, 2017 11:18 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      PLOT.

      HLIN.

      VLIN.


    70. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      71 | September 13, 2017 11:19 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      And in about half the cases I know of, people will be switching to the Samsung Galaxy when they “upgrade” because if I understand them correctly, it’s about half the cost.

      Not by much.

      A Galaxy S8 costs around $750.

      The S8+ I’m currently paying off cost $830 without my discount for being a grandfathered Verizon plan holder.

      Federalist Jr changed to a Galaxy when his Apple was up for trade in a couple of years ago. I hate the thing, it has caused more data over-runs because after each billing period, it decided to automatically update the OS and used up 90% of his data allocation. He learned how to turn that off, but when updates happen and some resets cause it to revert to data hog mode.

      I’ll buy an Apple before a Galaxy

      I feel the opposite. However, I’m extremely tech savvy and know each product for what it is. I will never in this life or the next touch another apple product. They are restricted walled gardens that treat their owners like children. Plus they are twice the price for half the tech as competing devices. But, there’s a strong market for them and I can’t begrudge them using that to their advantage. Samsung has their own manipulative policies and practices plus you have the additional crap tacked on to the phones by the service provider.

      Best case scenario is find a nice, powerful android device that is unlocked and rooted and put what you want, when you want. Learning everything you can to alter your own phone is always the best policy, and one that Apple will never allow. With most companies you buy the device and own the device, apple has made it clear that you aren’t to be trusted with access to your own device, and that’s one thing I cannot get past. I was an Apple owner through the entirety of the apple II era and was trying to get a IIGS when I started having to use an Apple Macintosh at school. At that moment I saw what direction Apple was headed and refused to ever buy an Apple product again. They have fulfilled every nightmare I had of their plans and gone even further since then.

      Sorry, Apple is a sore point to me. I feel they betrayed their base users and made a dumbed down, locked down system for casual users and said screw everyone else. But, they are a great starter phone and great for people that don’t need to learn more about how their phone works and can be improved upon. I just don’t feel they are right charging what they do for largely inferior equipment. (Much more true with their computers than their phones.)


    71. coldwarrior
      72 | September 13, 2017 11:20 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:

      PLOT.

      HLIN.

      VLIN.

      nightmares.


    72. coldwarrior
      73 | September 13, 2017 11:22 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      these devices arent phones anymore

      btw, the friday thread will be of interest to you


    73. Deplorable Bumr50
      74 | September 13, 2017 11:22 pm

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      rooted

      I’m scared to death to root my phone, but I want to.

      It’s my phone, and I need it back.


    74. Deplorable Bumr50
      75 | September 13, 2017 11:24 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      Safari sucks.


    75. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      76 | September 13, 2017 11:24 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      rooted

      I’m scared to death to root my phone, but I want to.

      It’s my phone, and I need it back.

      What model?


    76. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      77 | September 13, 2017 11:24 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      these devices arent phones anymore

      btw, the friday thread will be of interest to you

      I’ll watch for it.


    77. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      78 | September 13, 2017 11:26 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      Safari sucks.

      Yup.

      I use Firefox which has it’s own issues and their SJW values clash strongly with mine, but I like to tweak things and Firefox lets me do that. I have extensions for everything from convenience items to things that let me “peek under the hood” of different websites. I just can’t get the same with any other browser, though Chrome and Edge are in a race to get there.

      I use chrome if I need google specific features and I use edge when I need uncluttered speed.


    78. Deplorable Bumr50
      79 | September 13, 2017 11:29 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      Galaxy S8+

      My last phone an S5, and I was scared shitless to do it.

      I just want it to be able to network and call when I do it.

      I’m headed to bed, but any tips would be great! Work comes early. F*cking Apple.

      Goodnite all.


    79. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      80 | September 13, 2017 11:35 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      Galaxy S8+

      My last phone an S5, and I was scared shitless to do it.

      I just want it to be able to network and call when I do it.

      I’m headed to bed, but any tips would be great! Work comes early. F*cking Apple.

      Goodnite all.

      Depending on the exact model it can range from simple to absolutely ridiculous. I usually wait until I’m out of store replacement/warranty before rooting my device. Don’t want to have a non-reversible root. (Though those are rarer lately).


    80. AZfederalist
      81 | September 13, 2017 11:55 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      That’s how I feel about Android devices. I will not give Google a drop of money if I can avoid it.


    81. AZfederalist
      82 | September 13, 2017 11:58 pm

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      I feel the opposite. However, I’m extremely tech savvy and know each product for what it is.

      I only used PC’s for about 20+ years and used Linux for 7 years as my home device before moving to Mac, so I probably don’t qualify as tech-savvy.


    82. AZfederalist
      83 | September 14, 2017 12:01 am

      @ AZfederalist:

      I should add that I got off of the Windows train when Vista came out and had Digital Restrictions Management baked into the system. … and baked in poorly.


    83. coldwarrior
      84 | September 14, 2017 12:06 am

      AZfederalist wrote:

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      That’s how I feel about Android devices. I will not give Google a drop of money if I can avoid it.

      one can pretty much shut down google on the galaxy. again, its a learning curve.

      sometimes google is very useful and i turn it back on when i have a need. yes, there are give and takes. etc. google is a service and it has helped me out of a jam on a few instances, that said, it is shut off on my galaxy.

      these things are not phones anymore, nor should they be treated as such.


    84. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      85 | September 14, 2017 12:08 am

      AZfederalist wrote:

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      I feel the opposite. However, I’m extremely tech savvy and know each product for what it is.

      I only used PC’s for about 20+ years and used Linux for 7 years as my home device before moving to Mac, so I probably don’t qualify as tech-savvy.

      Lol, you have me beat. I just never got into Linux. Hell, you’d probably be a natural at android programming. Of course it’s branched pretty far from Linux over the years.


    85. coldwarrior
      86 | September 14, 2017 12:09 am

      @ AZfederalist:

      DRM, for what i understand, makes sure that the creator gets paid.

      cool by me.


    86. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      87 | September 14, 2017 12:12 am

      AZfederalist wrote:

      @ AZfederalist:

      I should add that I got off of the Windows train when Vista came out and had Digital Restrictions Management baked into the system. … and baked in poorly.

      Yeah, but they were also put in with plenty of ways to circumvent it. When I get a computer I want to modify it as I want, Apple doesn’t even want me to alter anything. Pretty to look at but not allowed to touch. Screw that.

      But, every few years Microsoft tries to follow the Apple model. Look at the Metro crap for windows 8, that was another attempt to go to a closed Microsoft store system. And once again they had to reverse course. As it stand now the microsoft store garbage is only useful if you already own a bunch of Xbox one games that have play anywhere.

      The day microsoft goes full closed system is pretty much the death of the gaming industry unless everyone picks ONE linux to support and migrates there.


    87. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      88 | September 14, 2017 12:14 am

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:
      PC gaming industry I should say. Console will still live on, as sad as it is.


    88. coldwarrior
      89 | September 14, 2017 12:14 am

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      i dont have time to program, i dont have time to learn and write code, frankly i hated that crap. hence, i pay so that my time is not wasted learning and re-learning crap that isnt in my professional forte and is in all intents and purposes useless knowledge and wasted hours for no real reason at all.

      i was comfortable with unix 15 years ago, i dont have time to do that anymore. so i pay, gladly. id rather play golf on my time off.


    89. coldwarrior
      90 | September 14, 2017 12:23 am

      night yinz


    90. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      91 | September 14, 2017 12:25 am

      The big problem is it really comes down to two options. And both sides have massive negatives. Hell, what do you do when option 3 is freaking microsoft and they are even giving up on phone production. There just aren’t any reasonable smartphone options that don’t have baggage of pretty bad companies and policies attached. I just go with android because then I have the choice of literally hundreds of phones each generation instead of the 3 or so Apple offers. I can customize my OS to my needs unlike Apple. I can install what I want when I want without being at the mercy of the all knowing and all seeing itunes store, who loves to eliminate apps with no warning or logical reason beyond whatever SJW reason pops in their head at the moment. I can overclock my phone. I can load books onto it from my personal drm free libraries without having to suffer through itunes. I can root my device and uninstall the gigs of extraneous crap that were installed by the device manufacturer and the network provider.

      It all comes down to simplicity with effective and clear functionality for apple and power and customization to your needs for android. It’s personal preference. Both have good and both have bad. The problem is similar with the computers. Microsoft mostly has allowed freedom on their platform while Apple feels the best way to provide the best and safest user experience is with limitations. Meanwhile Linux went off in 100 different directions and no one is really sure what the hell is going on.


    91. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      92 | September 14, 2017 12:31 am

      http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-mh-apple-users-really-hate-apple-software-20160208-column.html

      And Apple bloat has become a real thing.


    92. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      93 | September 14, 2017 12:41 am

      And I’m a relatively new person with android anyway. I finally gave up on windows phone after 6.0. That was my go to. Customed every aspect of that damn thing. Also liked having the integrated keyboard. I still miss my Treo.


    93. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      94 | September 14, 2017 12:42 am

      I think I finally went to android in 08 or 09.


    94. lobo91
      95 | September 14, 2017 1:01 am

      If anyone wants to see the latest incarnation of Samantha Fish, I came across a YouTube playlist that includes her entire 17 song set from a show at The Cutting Room in NYC about 6 weeks ago.

      This is the new 6 piece band, mostly songs off her new album Chills and Fever, which veers heavily into ’60s R&B. Great stuff:


    95. Aussie Infidel
      96 | September 14, 2017 1:20 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      our guys do one thing and do it well.

      clean water and sanitation

      Those two are the KEY to everything else. Without sanitation control you end up in a disease cycle that costs massive resources. Access to clean potable water too means no or much reduced disease exposure especially in a tropical environment.

      Getting those two right frees up resources to actually make a difference. Agricultural expertise and food production specifically protein foods and after … and ONLY AFTER that, other health support, maternity services and education. If you do it the other way around you end up with a population explosion and endemic starvation, with dependant populations demanding external support. That is the error repeated again and again globally. By getting the order of aid wrong you actually CAUSE tragedy and massive suffering to a whole population.

      You either pour resources into the problem and do everything at once (not particularly viable as an option as needs always outstrip resources) OR you allow the historical societal structure in place with all its horror of high death rates due to disease, high infant mortality rates and some malnutrition until you can improve the agricultural part of the equation. Once you have food production under control and growing THEN you introduce education, health services maternity services and education.

      Missionaries mean well, by first educating and providing health services rather than teaching folks to feed themselves and leaving the underlying society alone to suffer high mortality rates until you can get the feeding equation solved. The ‘compassionate option’ will only cause a boom in population followed by starvation, death and broken societies. The Missionary ‘cure’ is worse than the underlying ‘societal disease’ and ends up generating a hand out culture and destroying whole societies.

      I’ve seen both models up close and personal!


    96. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      97 | September 14, 2017 1:35 am

      @ AZfederalist:
      Oh, and I just got to thinking about how I phrased things. I think I got a bit too autistic, and may have inadvertently insulted you. By no means did I mean you or even everyone when I made some generalizations about apple users. I know there are very capable, technical, and amazingly intelligent people that use apple. It’s just in daily life, most of those I know who use apple are people looking for simplicity. Casual users. That combined with my apparent Aspergers make me tend to relate thing in generalities and I’m not always aware how my comments might be perceived. So, sorry about that. You always have my respect.


    97. eaglesoars
      98 | September 14, 2017 8:02 am

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      I think I got a bit too autistic,

      you are hilarious! I’ve often thought that everybody here resides somewhere along the autism spectrum, myself included. I suspect it’s one of the reasons we get along as well as we do. Foibles? You want foibles? I got yer foibles right here!

      This is an article from the AP that leads with Trump’s flat out denial about last night’s reports on a deal that he issued this morning, and then continues on as tho the deal was actually made. It’s one of the more incredibly blatant lies I’ve ever seen printed.

      (AP) — President Donald Trump denied Thursday an assertion by Congress’ top two Democrats that they reached an agreement with him that would preserve protections for young immigrants in the U.S. illegally while providing border security enhancements, but not the Southern wall he has coveted.

      “No deal was made last night on DACA,” known as the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, Trump tweeted before daybreak Thursday, contracting a characterization of a private White House dinner Wednesday night by his guests, Sen. Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi.

      “Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote,” Trump said in one of a series of posts to his Twitter account.”

      Hours earlier, shortly after the conclusion of the dinner, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders had pushed back against the Schumer-Pelosi statement embracing the claim of a deal. Sanders reiterated that point Thursday, saying, “While DACA and border security were both discussed, excluding the wall was certainly not agreed to.”

      ok so far. now watch this

      The agreement claimed by Schumer and Pelosi represents the latest instance of Trump ditching his own party to make common cause with the opposition.

      The agreement claimed by Schumer and Pelosi doesn’t represent anything but a lie.

      Either way, it was the second time in two weeks that Trump cut out Republicans to reach a deal with Pelosi and Schumer. A person briefed on the meeting, who demanded anonymity to discuss it, said the deal specifies bipartisan legislation called the DREAM Act that provides eventual citizenship for the young immigrants.

      House Republicans would normally rebel over such an approach, which many view as amnesty for law-breakers. It remains to be seen how conservatives’ loyalty to Trump will affect their response to a policy they would have opposed under other circumstances.

      The House’s foremost immigration hardliner, GOP Rep. Steve King of Iowa, made clear that he, for one, was not happy.

      There IS no either way. Trump said there was no deal so it’s not the 2nd time in 2 weeks for anything.

      Here’s the link. It’s at the bottom of an accuweather screen, but you can scroll down and read the rest of the bullshit.


    98. eaglesoars
      99 | September 14, 2017 8:10 am

      oh, from my brother from another mother:

      There is NOW an APP, from XDA developers, that GIVES YOU ROOT power – without voiding anything – without ROOTING the phone, and; it is FREE. They got smart. They found a way to install an app, that; WHEN IT RUNS, gives you full control over everything. So, you are effectively running an “SU” command – like we do at work. You get “temporary full root power” until you stop the app.

      It works very nicely.

      he has a galaxy note 4. he rooted his phone because it was doing something annoying and instantly regretted it because he could no longer access his cloud data (KNOX). He did eventually figure things out


    99. coldwarrior
      100 | September 14, 2017 8:22 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      like i said yesterday, there is propaganda and then there is action, i will wait for the action before i get bothered.


    100. 101 | September 14, 2017 8:26 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      id rather play golf on my time off.

      And right there he touches my own personal explanation for the “Fermi” paradox.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDPj5zI66LA&t=51m47s

      The more logical and rational any living being is, the more valuable time is. It is the one thing in the universe you can be paid for, but you can never purchase. The Fermi paradox boils down to, “Where are the Alien Civilizations”.

      My somewhat convoluted answer is, all around us. They just made the conscience decision not to advance their technology beyond a certain point because doing so enslaves every technological civilization to a high degree of time deprivation.

      It takes time to create and maintain a highly technological civilization. Time that can never be reclaimed on a personal level. Time away from ones loved ones, ones friends.

      My supposition is that among all the intelligent creatures in the universe, we may well be the only ones willing to sacrifice that time for the furtherance of our technology. I believe it is quiet conceivable that they might have decided to keep their level of technology at the agrarian level (not their intangible intellectual pursuits such as mathematics, philosophy or medicine) at the minimum level required to allow them to comfortably exist while simultaneously providing them the greatest amount of time to spend on the most important thing in the universe. Their families, friends and loved ones.

      Which is to say, the time required to create and maintain a highly technological civilization may well come at a price they are unwilling to pay. Time away from the people and things they love that can never ever be repurchased. While perhaps unlikely, this is my speculative answer to the “Fermi Paradox”.


    101. 102 | September 14, 2017 8:48 am

      I’m about as non-tech as you can get. I like the simplicity of the iPhone, but I wish they’d add a slot for extra memory. My first smartphone was from Windows, and the browser crashed constantly on some sites, including this one. I don’t like that Android has their assistant basically spying on you quite so much.

      Yes, I know all of ’em spy on you. ‘Droid might be worse though. Plus it’s by Google.


    102. 103 | September 14, 2017 9:53 am

      RIX wrote:

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      @ RIX:

      I’m actually on the list for Gary’s Lt. Dan Band tour

      @ lobo91:

      Send your kids to Dartmouth instead.

      You will have a good time.

      I had to work late the last time he was in town. I was very disappointed.


    103. 104 | September 14, 2017 9:59 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      @ eaglesoars:

      there is propaganda and then there is action.

      i will wait for action before gettin really pissed off.

      yeah, but I’m locked and loaded.

      It’s good to know I’m in the same wading pool on this as two people I greatly admire.

      On a different note….Rush was talking yesterday about the celebrity asshats and the Hand in Hand benefit for Hurricane Relief. They raised like $44 million (in PLEDGES) and led off with Stevie Wonder lecturing on climate change and how people who didn’t subscribe were essentially idiots. (Talk about being BLIND).

      Now here’s a question. How many moderates and conservatives who may have thought about pledging during this telethon immediately switched to another channel? Oh and Rush also pointed out that on his own with a Tweet and a Facebook page, J.T. Watts has raised over $31 million in hurricane relief (I’m going to donate a Franklin myself after I’m finished typing this) and unlike the pampered assholes in front of the camera, the dude went down there and personally helped out with relief and rescue efforts.


    104. lobo91
      105 | September 14, 2017 11:06 am

      Hillary Clinton’s Alternative Take On What “1984” Was All About

      Since the official release of Hillary’s new book “What Happened” yesterday, our sense of logic and rational thought has been under constant assault by a steady stream of ‘Hillary-isms’ which provide some rather dark insights into the bizarro world in which she lives.

      That said, we’ve seen nothing that tops the following excerpt in which Hillary offers up her expert opinion on the key life lesson that should be learned from “1984”, namely that we should trust and rely on “our leaders, the press, and experts who seek to guide public policy.”

      “Attempting to define reality is a core feature of authoritarianism. This is what the Soviets did when they erased political dissidents from historical photos. This is what happens in George Orwell’s classic novel “Nineteen Eighty-Four,” when a torturer holds up four fingers and delivers electric shocks until his prisoner see five fingers as ordered. The goal is to make you question logic and reason and to sow mistrust toward exactly the people we need to rely on: our leaders, the press, experts who seek to guide public policy based on evidence, ourselves.”

      Sorry, Hillary…but we’re pretty sure that the key takeway from ‘1984’ was not that we should all trust the government and media just a little more…

      We’ve been saying this a lot lately but we find it helpful to clarify in instances such as this…yes, this is real life.

      The irony here is that the democratic party and the mainstream media, both entities that Hillary suggests should have your utmost trust and respect, have been on a mission to “sow mistrust” for over a year now with their perpetual ‘Russian collusion’ narrative…a narrative for which no actual evidence has been presented.

      Of course, after reading that passage above, one can only come to one of two conclusions: i) Hillary has never read 1984 (best case) or ii) Hillary’s powers of self-delusion are far greater than anyone ever imagined (worst case).


    105. 106 | September 14, 2017 11:10 am

      @ lobo91:

      That’s okay – she apparently believes Cersei from “Game of Thrones” is a sympathetic character that she should identify with. Oh she’s just LIKE Cersei, to be sure but it’s not a compliment.

      Smartest woman in the World, folks. And the most! qualifed! Presidential! candidate! EVER!!!


    106. eaglesoars
      107 | September 14, 2017 11:14 am

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      How many moderates and conservatives who may have thought about pledging during this telethon immediately switched to another channel?

      I think it’s safe to say zero conservatives tuned in thinking that might be a good venue for contributing. They may have tuned in for the entertainment value of watching the freak show but not for being separated from their $$$

      Also, this may have been a ‘charity’ event, but I’m willing to bet that they all filed ‘expenses’ for things like the cost of flying in on their private jets and their hotel rooms, etc. So, altho they may not have been paid for their appearances, it didn’t cost them anything to show up either. Which probably means, when all is said and done, that out of the $44 million pledged, they’ll get $22 if they’re lucky and celebrity expenses will eat another few million out of that. Say they’re left with $15 million total for actual relief. 30% of the take. How will they donate that? Probably to another organization doing relief work, which will have its own admin/overhead costs.

      pfft.


    107. eaglesoars
      108 | September 14, 2017 11:18 am

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      Oh she’s just LIKE Cersei,

      Cersei has a lot more class AND she’s a helluva lot smarter. Low bar, I know but still…………..


    108. 109 | September 14, 2017 12:18 pm

      So is Trump now saying there IS a deal to grant amnesty/path to citizenship for ‘Dreamers’? With border security the left will never follow through on?


    109. lobo91
      110 | September 14, 2017 12:37 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      So is Trump now saying there IS a deal to grant amnesty/path to citizenship for ‘Dreamers’? With border security the left will never follow through on?

      Seems that way


    110. 111 | September 14, 2017 12:41 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      And better looking. But OMG when she did that comparison, people were just snarking ALL over Twitter at her. Because you KNOW she’s never seen “Game of Thrones” – one of her staffers told her it would be a cool reference.


    111. eaglesoars
      112 | September 14, 2017 2:01 pm

      @ right_wing2:
      @ lobo91:

      no.

      “If we don’t get the wall then we’re not doing anything”

      That is a direct quote from Trump this morning. AND I just heard Nancy Pelosi, in her early-onset Alzheimers way, do a complete climb down. “We said we had a deal to move forward. I trust President Trump on this”

      Those of us who were seriously considering what side of the ledge we were going to walk off forgot that Chuck and Nancy are pathological liars and lie to their own supporters – who were their audience last nite – just like they do to everyone else.

      Trump’s press office had better learn a lesson real quick, tho. You don’t let ANYBODY speak for POTUS. There’s no playing catch up here


    112. eaglesoars
    113. 114 | September 14, 2017 2:32 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Paul Ryan 3 hrs ago

      Today, the House votes to: Fully fund @POTUS’ wall request Beef up enforcement against illegal immigration Secure our national defense

      Then McConnell will get it and fuck it up

      Providing Paul Ryan doesn’t fuck it up first.


    114. Aussie Infidel
      115 | September 14, 2017 2:33 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      id rather play golf on my time off.

      And right there he touches my own personal explanation for the “Fermi” paradox.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDPj5zI66LA&t=51m47s

      …… “allow them to comfortably exist while simultaneously providing them the greatest amount of time to spend on the most important thing in the universe. Their families, friends and loved ones.

      Which is to say, the time required to create and maintain a highly technological civilization may well come at a price they are unwilling to pay. Time away from the people and things they love that can never ever be repurchased. While perhaps unlikely, this is my speculative answer to the “Fermi Paradox”.

      Yet we have the iPhoneX that absorbs up to 7 or 8 hours a day of our youth’s time every day, separates them from their loved ones, prevents face to face human interaction, makes them physically isolated, sad, angry and frustrated with short attention spans and a materialistic view of the universe, increases their suicide rates as a cohort and turns them into narcissistic beings.

      Technology is a TOOL. When the tool dominates our lives it’s time to put that tool back in the box.


    115. Aussie Infidel
      116 | September 14, 2017 2:41 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Poor sad Nanci and Chuck caught in yet another lie. They are the playthings of the Father of Lies so I guess we have to feel sorry for them on that plane. BUT maintain their isolation from actual power wherever possible as they are a threat not only to the rest of us but also to themselves.

      There is bad shit aplenty going down world wide folks. No need to get upset however. Just stay engaged, careful and knowledgable and we’ll be OK. These liars can’t handle the truth and it terrifies them. Keep them absolutely terrified, then smile, relax and pass the popcorn!

      🙂


    116. Aussie Infidel
      117 | September 14, 2017 2:43 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      i dont have time to program, i dont have time to learn and write code, frankly i hated that crap. hence, i pay so that my time is not wasted learning and re-learning crap that isnt in my professional forte and is in all intents and purposes useless knowledge and wasted hours for no real reason at all.

      i was comfortable with unix 15 years ago, i dont have time to do that anymore. so i pay, gladly. id rather play golf on my time off.

      BINGO !

      Another one with his priorities right!

      This isn’t rocket science folks!

      🙂


    117. eaglesoars
      118 | September 14, 2017 2:47 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Another one with his priorities right!

      I just ordered a book on android programming. Might be fun. I loved it once


    118. Aussie Infidel
      119 | September 14, 2017 2:48 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      Golf AND Rugby AND Family mate! Not necessarily in that order. 🙂

      The AllBlacks are playing the ‘Old Enemy’ this weekend.

      All Blacks Springboks.

      🙂

      The Boys are coming back strongly as they always do from a few years in the Rugby wilderness. There is nothing so dangerous as a ‘bok’ on the make!

      HEH!

      🙂


    119. Aussie Infidel
      120 | September 14, 2017 2:48 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      HEH!

      You poor twisted girl you!

      🙂


    120. Aussie Infidel
      121 | September 14, 2017 2:58 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Woke up at 4:11 and gave up pretending to be asleep. Got up made coffee… wandered up to the post box at 6AM . Still no newspaper. Bugger!

      🙂

      Got a full day here setting up a new company structure after yesterdays meeting with the manufacturers that fits with the immigration requirements of one of the ket Chinese partners. She needs to be employed by a company based outside of Auckland for 2 years so we will play that silly game to allow access to the Chinese marketplace. WWE were offered shares in a manufactured yesterday but will wait awhile to see how things pan out. Walk before sprinting is usually a good plan!

      🙂

      This shit actually looks as if it might actually work !

      Still we have a bit of water still to go under the bridge and I’m NOT spending the money until it is in the bank!

      We’ll see what transpired over the first few shipments. Everyone is loosing their heads over shipping 2 containers a day. I’m just waiting until I see the first two actually arrive in China and I see products on the shelves and selling before I pop the corks on the chanpagne!

      Slowly… slowly catcheee monkey!


    121. Aussie Infidel
      122 | September 14, 2017 3:00 pm

      manufactured = manufacturer


    122. 123 | September 14, 2017 3:18 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      wandered up to the post box at 6AM .

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp368iEcB78


    123. eaglesoars
      124 | September 14, 2017 3:21 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Everyone is loosing their heads over shipping 2 containers a day.

      I don’t know what you’re selling them but right now i’m convinced that the only reason China buys anything is because they haven’t figured out a way to steal it. Yet. I suppose some of that impulse comes from being so poor during/after the war they had no money to buy stuff with. They’ve been buying gold like maniacs. And that’s just knowledge that’s public, who knows what goes on that nobody knows about


    124. 125 | September 14, 2017 3:22 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      wandered up to the post box at 6AM .

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp368iEcB78

      Which of course inevitably leads to this.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS75xQfYr40


    125. coldwarrior
      126 | September 14, 2017 3:47 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Yet we have the iPhoneX that absorbs up to 7 or 8 hours a day of our youth’s time every day, separates them from their loved ones, prevents face to face human interaction, makes them physically isolated, sad, angry and frustrated with short attention spans and a materialistic view of the universe, increases their suicide rates as a cohort and turns them into narcissistic beings.

      turns them into drones, drones who are easily controlled.


    126. 127 | September 14, 2017 3:56 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      Personally I’d be as opposed to a legislative DACA as I am to an Executive Order one.


    127. rain of lead
      128 | September 14, 2017 5:59 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      hey cw, you there?


    128. rain of lead
      129 | September 14, 2017 6:28 pm

      Now it makes sense why the liberal media is ignoring this story.

      http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/09/boom-top-democrat-becerra-caught-giving-cops-fake-server-imran-awan-scandal/


    129. Aussie Infidel
      130 | September 14, 2017 6:54 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Everyone is loosing their heads over shipping 2 containers a day.

      I don’t know what you’re selling them but right now i’m convinced that the only reason China buys anything is because they haven’t figured out a way to steal it. Yet. I suppose some of that impulse comes from being so poor during/after the war they had no money to buy stuff with. They’ve been buying gold like maniacs. And that’s just knowledge that’s public, who knows what goes on that nobody knows about

      @ eaglesoars:
      China is buying eco-green low pollution cleaning products. 400 million Chinese have developed a concern for the levels of pollution pouring into their environment.

      WE are also trying to ship food to them that is not full of heavy metals and dioxin. They tend to appreciate stuff like that!

      Frankly the Chinese have totally lost confidence in their food chain and the integrity in their potable water supply.

      🙂

      We are cashing in on that paranoia and new eco-friendly attitudes!

      🙂


    130. eaglesoars
      131 | September 14, 2017 7:43 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Frankly the Chinese have totally lost confidence in their food chain and the integrity in their potable water supply.

      good. It’s not good that those are the facts but it’s good that they aren’t lying to themselves about it.

      I remember when we got contaminated dog food from China that killed/maimed a lot of dogs. They executed the person(s) they found responsible (we’ll let our kids smoke dope until they’re in a coma but don’t fuck with our dogs). I think anything edible from China still has a difficult time here, I know i won’t touch it. I don’t know what they can do about their water. Distillation is the only method I know of that comes close to purifying it but I don’t know if there are contaminants that could still pass thru the process and in any event, that’s a helluva lot of water they need to treat. And still, only 10% of their land mass is arable. That’s still a lot of land but ‘arable’ doesn’t mean ‘really good topsoil’.


    131. 132 | September 14, 2017 7:54 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      They tend to appreciate stuff like that!

      Shame they don’t have that same attitude regarding their exports.


    132. eaglesoars
      133 | September 14, 2017 8:24 pm

      Sand? Sand is a thing now? Apparently so, as it seems we’re using too much of it because we use it in everything – like concrete

      In the past, most sand was mined locally, but regional shortages and rising demand, driven in part by a construction boom in Asia, have transformed it into a global commodity. Singapore, for instance, imports its sand from Indonesia, Cambodia, and Vietnam. India imports sand from Indonesia and the Philippines. And even the United Arab Emirates, having exhausted its sand resources on Dubai’s artificial islands, now buys its sand from Australia.


    133. 134 | September 14, 2017 8:26 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      And I want more of us to do a better job of cleaning things up. How much plastic is floating around in the ocean? How much could we efficiently recycle? What difference would it make just having traffic lights timed better?

      I’m starting to use greener cleaning stuff, if for no other reason than the cats!


    134. AZfederalist
      135 | September 14, 2017 9:09 pm

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      So, sorry about that. You always have my respect.

      Thanks for that.


    135. coldwarrior
      136 | September 14, 2017 9:13 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Sand? Sand is a thing now? Apparently so, as it seems we’re using too much of it because we use it in everything – like concrete

      In the past, most sand was mined locally, but regional shortages and rising demand, driven in part by a construction boom in Asia, have transformed it into a global commodity. Singapore, for instance, imports its sand from Indonesia, Cambodia, and Vietnam. India imports sand from Indonesia and the Philippines. And even the United Arab Emirates, having exhausted its sand resources on Dubai’s artificial islands, now buys its sand from Australia.

      ummmm….bottom of the ocean….


    136. coldwarrior
      137 | September 14, 2017 9:13 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:

      hey cw, you there?

      i am now. was up at open house at the elementary school


    137. 138 | September 14, 2017 9:15 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      ummmm….bottom of the ocean….

      Sahara Desert, just sayin, no shortage of sand there.


    138. coldwarrior
      139 | September 14, 2017 9:15 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      the chinese cant feed themselves. this is their achilles heel


    139. coldwarrior
      140 | September 14, 2017 9:16 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      ummmm….bottom of the ocean….

      Sahara Desert, just sayin, no shortage of sand there.

      whole shit-ton load out west too.


    140. eaglesoars
      141 | September 14, 2017 9:24 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      ummmm….bottom of the ocean….

      doriangrey wrote:

      Sahara Desert, just sayin, no shortage of sand there.

      yeah, well, that was kind of my point. And you know that joke about “too bad when the Saudis run out of oil, the can g o pound on their sand”…that one?


    141. Deplorable Bumr50
      142 | September 14, 2017 9:41 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Sand is essential to hydraulic fracturing.

      “Proppant” is the industry term. It keeps the fissures open. A LOT of sand.


    142. eaglesoars
      143 | September 14, 2017 9:58 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      it mentioned that in the piece. also glass.


    143. Deplorable Bumr50
      144 | September 14, 2017 10:00 pm


    144. eaglesoars
      145 | September 14, 2017 10:00 pm

      wait, wut?

      Homeland Security orders federal agencies to remove Kaspersky software

      ok, this HAS to be a ‘follow the money’ thing. Who in their right mind would do put that software on their network?


    145. eaglesoars
      146 | September 14, 2017 10:08 pm

      This is a plausible analysis of what Trump is doing:

      What Trump gets out of the deal

      And note the email he (and a lot of others) got from Trump today


    146. Deplorable Bumr50
      147 | September 14, 2017 10:15 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Breitbart has become unreadable. For all the talk of Trump’s ego, Bannon’s must be 500x the size.


    147. Deplorable Bumr50
      148 | September 14, 2017 10:18 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      I’ll also note that despite their sizable readership, most of Trump’s base doesn’t read Breitbart. Or Drudge. Or any major internet news site “on the right.”

      They work.

      And if Trump can get meaningful tax reform done – that’s all that will matter for them.


    148. eaglesoars
      149 | September 14, 2017 10:20 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      Breitbart became unreadable before Bannon’s return. The headlines were hysterical, overwrought and misleading. Now they’re insane and flat-out wrong.

      However, sometimes they get the story right so I always check in. The comments, unfortunately, are a complete waste of time. Some places, like Instapundit, are worthwhile because people post additional or clarifying info in t he comments and I can learn something. I’ve encountered saner people on 4chan that I see on Brietbart


    149. Deplorable Bumr50
      150 | September 14, 2017 10:28 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      I’ve encountered saner people on 4chan that I see on Brietbart

      There are LOTS of sane people on 4chan.

      You just have to FIND them…


    150. lobo91
      151 | September 14, 2017 10:29 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      The Saudis and Kuwaitis have to import construction sand. you can’t use the crap they have there. It’s like talcum powder.

      And the beaches on the Persian Gulf coast are rocks, not sand.


    151. coldwarrior
      152 | September 14, 2017 10:42 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      PHISH!!!


    152. eaglesoars
      153 | September 14, 2017 10:42 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      You just have to FIND them…

      did you miss the part where I just ordered a book on android programming?
      because I have to find out more about cybercurrencies and security? and I spend 2 hrs a day dog walking another 4 or so just household maintenance plus help hubby with the business?

      I’m trying to fit in as much study time as I can now because there will be a new puppy here in a few months and THEN my time won’t be my own again.


    153. coldwarrior
      154 | September 14, 2017 10:43 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:

      The Saudis and Kuwaitis have to import construction sand. you can’t use the crap they have there. It’s like talcum powder.

      And the beaches on the Persian Gulf coast are rocks, not sand.

      true…btw that guitar chic is really good. been jammin on that, thx!


    154. Aussie Infidel
      155 | September 14, 2017 10:55 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      And I want more of us to do a better job of cleaning things up. How much plastic is floating around in the ocean? How much could we efficiently recycle? What difference would it make just having traffic lights timed better?

      ALL plastics can now be recycled mostly into liquid fuel or as feed stock in plastics manufacture.

      Alas in the real world nothing is for nothing. The cost of collecting all of the plastic waste floating in the oceans is astronomical and far in excess of the value of the retrieved plastic waste. It’s very hard to assign added value to plastic waste to address the knock on effects like degradation of the bio-sphere. That is due to waste plastic drifting on the tide. Where it is usually is not where it originated so to clean it up , someone has to pay good money (millions of dollars ) to clean up other folks trash. Obviously nobody wants to use their own money to clean up after degenerates who wilfully destroy the environment. Therefore mostly NOBODY puts their hand in their pocket and the plastic trash stays in the sea. Eventually UV destroys some or most of it and it sinks to the ocean floor where it stays locked up in mud for millions of years until bacteria finally eat it.

      Much better to catch it at source by recycling into designated plastic trash bins and preventing it even getting into the ocean. Unfortunately there are many countries who don’t give a damn and as I said trash drifts worldwide and these degenerates make it bad for all of us.


    155. Aussie Infidel
      156 | September 14, 2017 11:00 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      You need rough sands in concrete to help bind and improve strength. Talcum powder type sand just will not do. River sands are probably the best but how many rivers are there in the ME? … the Euphrates system and the Nile system and then not that much at all.


    156. 157 | September 14, 2017 11:01 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      What’s a good book for an Android Programming n00b?


    157. coldwarrior
      158 | September 14, 2017 11:02 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      sux to be them (he says while looking a a huge river barge load of sand heading down to the aggregates plant)


    158. eaglesoars
      159 | September 14, 2017 11:05 pm

      Bitcoin crashes as Beijing orders cryptocurrency exchange shutdown

      According to China Business News, regulators in Shanghai and the country’s financial center gave verbal instructions to exchange operators to end services. The exchanges will reportedly shut down at the end of September

      .


    159. coldwarrior
      160 | September 14, 2017 11:17 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      nods (yinz know how i feel about cryptos)

      ..goes back to setting up the new laptop…


    160. eaglesoars
      161 | September 14, 2017 11:20 pm

      Deplorable Macker wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      What’s a good book for an Android Programming n00b?

      well, I don’t know what ‘n00b’ is, but here’s what my friend reco’d for me

      XDA Developers’ Android Hacker’s Toolkit: The Complete Guide to Rooting, ROMs and Theming

      keep in mind I have background in software development so even tho the protocols are going to be new, the general environment is something I lived in for 30 yrs. If you’ve never seen code before, I don’t know where to start. Youtube turtorials probably


    161. eaglesoars
      162 | September 14, 2017 11:26 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      nods (yinz know how i feel about cryptos)

      yep. howsomesoever, I fear there are powers that disagree. Cryptos give governments ENORMOUS powers, powers that the Chinese gov’t would love to have. I’m thinking that they’ll be just fine with cryptos as long as they control it. They gave bitcoin 2 weeks to shut down to allow a tidy unwind and not completely trash the global markets for long.

      Next time it’s going to be a knock on the door in the middle of the night.

      If you want a cashless society – and the globalists do – you have to go with digital currencies. Rickards thinks they’re crap and the fundamentals certainly are, but McAfee nails it – they’ll do it because they can.

      oh, and Vlad has been hiring blockchain people.


    162. eaglesoars
      163 | September 14, 2017 11:31 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      You need rough sands in concrete to help bind and improve strength. Talcum powder type sand just will not do. River sands are probably the best but how many rivers are there in the ME? … the Euphrates system and the Nile system and then not that much at all.

      if current trends continue they can use the Danube and the Rhine, the Po and the Tiber.

      ok, bedtime.


    163. Aussie Infidel
      164 | September 14, 2017 11:42 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Like Cold you also know how I feel about crypto currency too.

      That the first shoe to drop. Waiting …. waiting…waiting… for the ‘FOREX crisis’ shoe to fall as well in Shanghai.

      This timing could spell a very bad day for me with containers of clean green NZ product about to be dispatched to China.

      Ahhhhh !

      WE will denominate in Renminbi so that will help a bit but as the Renminbi devaluing it will drive the prices higher as our raw materials prices rise. Thank god we haven’t signed the price stabilisation protocol yet. China was asking 3 years of fixed prices, We offered 6 months and we would have agreed to a year with forward cover for a tradable currency.

      No way are we going to absorb price hikes in free falling Renminbi when the bottom drops out of the Chinese currency. We may have to contend with a US sanctions regime as well with NZ suffering US countervailing sanctions for trading with China.

      BUGGER!

      Fingers crossed that this will be a storm in a tea cup.


    164. Aussie Infidel
      165 | September 14, 2017 11:43 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      G’night eagles

      🙂


    165. coldwarrior
      166 | September 14, 2017 11:45 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      ah, the joys of international trade!


    166. eaglesoars
      167 | September 14, 2017 11:46 pm

      Deplorable Macker wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      What’s a good book for an Android Programming n00b?

      I found something for you that looks fairly simple. It assumes some programming background – Java – but Java is not terribly difficult IF you have some background in C or C++. But it will at least give you a feel for what’s involved.


    167. eaglesoars
      168 | September 14, 2017 11:46 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      oh and it’s a 9 min you tube tutorial, not a book. easy peasy


    168. eaglesoars
      169 | September 14, 2017 11:50 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      yeah and they made a mistake trying to play games with the dollar and their petro crap because that will piss off Trump

      BUT. If they bring the Norks to heel – Trump will open the world for them, even if he has to put Japan and Korea in sacks.

      and I have to go to bed. My skin and all the girl nonsense you know.


    169. eaglesoars
      170 | September 14, 2017 11:54 pm

      sigh

      one more

      Navy investigates if a CYBERATTACK made US destroyer collide with cargo ship killing seven sailors

      this involves the McCain incident only. And if they DO find it’s a cyberattack they’ll lie about it in public


    170. coldwarrior
      171 | September 15, 2017 12:00 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      sigh

      one more

      Navy investigates if a CYBERATTACK made US destroyer collide with cargo ship killing seven sailors

      this involves the McCain incident only. And if they DO find it’s a cyberattack they’ll lie about it in public

      i had a very very sneaky suspicion about this.


    171. lobo91
      172 | September 15, 2017 12:06 am

      @ coldwarrior:

      true…btw that guitar chic is really good. been jammin on that, thx!

      That YouTube playlist I posted last night? Yeah, I was pretty amazed. That’s a totally new direction for her. Channeling her inner Peggy Lee.

      Well, if Peggy Lee had a custom Telecaster. And knew how to play it.

      She’s going to be in Albuquerque next Friday at a festival downtown. I’m definitely going.


    172. AZfederalist
      173 | September 15, 2017 12:08 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      this involves the McCain incident only. And if they DO find it’s a cyberattack they’ll lie about it in public

      If it is a cyberattack, it is still inexcusable unless the ship became uncontrollable. The Mark I eyeball is supposed to be utilized on those boats as well.


    173. coldwarrior
      174 | September 15, 2017 12:18 am

      this is getting a bit too dangerous

      NKorea fires missile over Japan in longest-ever flight…
      Warning announcements blared…
      Terrifying wake-up call…


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