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  • NFL Wake 10! The “Hold on to Your Hats” Thread

    by Deplorable Barbarian ( 97 Comments › )
    Filed under Uncategorized at November 12th, 2017 - 12:45 pm

    I swore after Week 3, the week of “Let’s All Join Hands and Take a Knee Because Donald Trump is a big bully” that I was just not going to devote full columns to discussing these self-absorbed twits. But frankly, they really are the gift that keeps on giving.  Especially when you tend towards the smart ass.

    So I guess in the NFL, November is Salute to Service Month.  I’m given to understand it always was the Salute to Service Month but for some reason it was the best-kept secret in the NFL up till now.  But this year they seem to be going all out – all the coaching staff is wearing Camo, and there are PSA’s cut by the teams with them honoring a veteran.  Tell me, do you guys bring the veteran out on the field with you for the anthem?  You know, so he can get a front-row seat of you disrespecting the flag and the anthem of the country he fought for?  He’ll be easy to spot – he’s the one standing at attention with his hand over his heart.  Oh, and last week, the NFL apparently not only acknowledged its Patriotic base has for all intents and purposes disappeared but apparently where it had feld TO — it advertised it’s “Salute to Service” during a commercial broadcast during the NASCAR race.  I’m sure the 1o or so race fans that didn’t get up for a beer while this annoying self-promotion was on had a few choice words for the screen.

    While corner-eye watching last week, however, the number of fights and ejections by these idiots made me wonder if American anger with the league and their whole “SJW” BS is starting to get to them.  Geez I hope so.

    Let’s start with this choice little number, from the Bengals/Jaquars game.  AJ Green puts on the chokehold and throws punches at Jalen Ramsey – now at the time it happened, the announcers said that they weren’t ejected but I found out later that yes they were.  But please notice the yellow flag isn’t thrown after Ramsey’s shove, only after the Green chokehold – so why was RAMSEY ejected?

    In the Saints game, Jameis Winston poked Marshon Lattimore, who turned and gave him a tweek, after which he was blindsided by Mike Evans, who apparently thought the game was over and the UFC had taken over the field.

    Evans was NOT ejected from the game, but fined.  Nice going there, refs.

    Then Sunday evening, such a huge fight broke out during the Raider/Miami game that the refs ran out of yellow flags and started throwing their hats.  I sincerely hope this isn’t a trend.

    If the fighting gets really bad as the season progresses, they may have to resort to throwing other items of clothing.  And depending on the game, I may be eating.  Or I WAS.  Unfortunately there is no video of lonely hats sitting on the field.

    I can see it now.  “Well, Chris it was pretty nasty out there.  I count a total of 8 – EIGHT! – hats thrown on the field.  And Ed Hoculi was at the point where he was removing his whistle!”

    As the slide continues, here’s the Future Brawlers of America playing this week  (Byes to the Ravens, Chiefs, Raiders and Eagles – nice: maybe I can get Football Savant Offspring to clean his room since he has no dog in the hunt/fight this week):

    Saints @Bills
    Packers @ Bears
    Browns @ Lions
    Steelers @ Colts
    Chargers @ Jaguars
    Jets @ Bucs
    Bengals @ Titans
    Vikings @ Redskins
    Texans @ Rams
    Cowboys @Falcons
    Giants @ An Near-Empty Stadium at Santa Clara, CA
    Patriots @ Broncos

    Monday:
    Dolphins @ Panthers.

    In the NHL the guys I like to call “the Boys of Winter” are busy:

    Devils @ Blackhawks
    Oilers @  Capitals
    Lightning @ Mighty Ducks (REALLY, Anaheim?)
    Sharks @ Kings

    NASCAR’s penultimate race takes the drivers back to the Southwest to Phoenix.  Martin Truex Jr. maintains a 50-point lead in the Points Race, and here’s hoping as they head to the Home(stead) Stretch, he pulls off his first Championship.  More on this next week.

    In the PGA, the OHL Classic at Mayakoba is in its final round.

    In the NBA, street thugs making millions will be bouncing a ball around a court dressed like idiots.

    As always, it’s your Sunday Open thread, so discuss all the weekend news dump items here.

     

     

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    97 Responses to “NFL Wake 10! The “Hold on to Your Hats” Thread”
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    1. coldwarrior
      1 | November 12, 2017 2:01 pm

      http://nypost.com/2017/11/11/turns-out-trump-didnt-ruin-americas-economy/

      Hey, nevertrumpers….


    2. 2 | November 12, 2017 2:22 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      They’re soooo desperate to say this is a leftover of Obama’s economic policies. Which is of course why he had such sterling quarterly GDP’s, right?


    3. coldwarrior
      3 | November 12, 2017 2:27 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      this is sooo fun to watch


    4. lobo91
      4 | November 12, 2017 2:30 pm

      The Plot Thickens=> Memo Presented by Russian Lawyer at Trump Tower Meeting Was Written by…FUSION GPS

      According to Fox News, Veselnitskaya met with Glenn Simpson mere hours before she and three Russians sauntered over to Trump Tower to meet with Don Jr. and few others from Trump’s campaign. She then met with Simpson AGAIN after she left Trump Tower.

      But hours before the Trump Tower meeting on June 9, 2016, Fusion co-founder and ex-Wall Street Journal reporter Glenn Simpson was with Veselnitskaya in a Manhattan federal courtroom, a confidential source told Fox News. Court records reviewed by Fox News, email correspondence and published reports corroborate the pair’s presence together. The source told Fox News they also were together after the Trump Tower meeting.

      Reuters reported that the memo Veselnitskaya presented to Don Jr at Trump Tower was PREPARED BY FUSION GPS….yes the same firm that Hillary’s camp paid millions of dollars to for the garbage Russia dossier.

      The sources told Reuters that the negative information that Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya wanted to give to Republican Trump’s campaign at a June 2016 meeting in New York had been dug up by Fusion GPS in an unrelated investigation…In an interview with Bloomberg on Monday, Veselnitskaya said she went to the Trump Tower meeting with Donald Trump Jr., his brother-in-law Jared Kushner, and top campaign adviser Paul Manafort to show them proof of tax evasion by major Democratic donors…The memo had been prepared by Fusion…

      This is all just one big coincidence. Nothing to see here.

      It is becoming increasingly clear that this infamous Trump Tower meeting between Don Jr and Veselnitskaya was a set up by Hillary and the dirty Democrats.

      Glenn Simpson, co-founder of Fusion GPS, the firm behind the garbage Russia dossier is going to voluntarily speak to the House Intel Committee in a closed-door meeting Tuesday per his lawyer.

      In an effort to put all the pieces of the puzzle together, Judicial Watch has also filed a lawsuit against the DOJ for records relating to Veselnitskaya’s immigration parole.

      Natalia Veselnitskaya was denied a U.S. visa in 2015, however; she was granted temporary ‘immigration parole’ by New York federal prosecutors.

      It appears team Obama/Hillary were all working together to get Veselnitskaya to meet with Don Jr. in order to smear Trump with the Russian collusion hoax.


    5. RIX
      5 | November 12, 2017 3:16 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:

      They’re soooo desperate to say this is a leftover of Obama’s economic policies. Which is of course why he had such sterling quarterly GDP’s, right?

      Which is of course nonsense. the economy suffered for eight years under Obama, and he did not cause an economic
      come back on his way out the door. The stock market is in large part driven by investor confidence , and Trump
      has their confidence, Obama did not.


    6. coldwarrior
      6 | November 12, 2017 3:17 pm

      @ lobo91:
      This election has been so educational


    7. 7 | November 12, 2017 3:34 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      Yes it is. And the economy will REALLY take off if the corporate tax rate is reduced; which is why I imagine the RINO Establish and the Democrats are fighting it – would really show that the Trump policies would work and we can’t have that, of course. Forget what’s good for the country – what’s good for THEM?

      Apropos of nothing, CW – after that Auburn blowout of Georgia – Flyboy and I were wonder how FAR Georgia is going to fall – no doubt Bama goes back to No. 1 – so how many spots do you think Georgia loses and will Auburn land? The Iron Bowl should be excellent this year.


    8. coldwarrior
      8 | November 12, 2017 4:11 pm

      well, it is the gulf coast and all.

      😆


    9. coldwarrior
      9 | November 12, 2017 4:14 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      Apropos of nothing, CW – after that Auburn blowout of Georgia – Flyboy and I were wonder how FAR Georgia is going to fall – no doubt Bama goes back to No. 1 – so how many spots do you think Georgia loses and will Auburn land? The Iron Bowl should be excellent this year.

      we will now hear how wonderful Miami is. their strength of schedule is a joke compared to UGA and Bama. UGA should not fall more than two or three places as their strength of schedule is way up there.

      gonna be interesting

      looking at Miami’s entire résumé. With the exception of Virginia Tech and Notre Dame, Georgia Tech is the only other Power 5 opponent Miami has beaten that is over .500. Also, consider the impact of Virginia Tech’s loss to Georgia Tech. The three-loss Hokies were the only other ranked opponent Miami had beaten this season, and they could fall out of the top 25 on Tuesday. One thing is for sure: The Canes’ win over Notre Dame trumps anything that undefeated Wisconsin has done to this point.

      strength of schedule matters yugely.


    10. coldwarrior
      10 | November 12, 2017 4:24 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      Yes it is. And the economy will REALLY take off if the corporate tax rate is reduced; which is why I imagine the RINO Establish and the Democrats are fighting it – would really show that the Trump policies would work and we can’t have that, of course. Forget what’s good for the country – what’s good for THEM?

      precisely.


    11. 11 | November 12, 2017 5:08 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      would really show that the Trump policies would work and we can’t have that, of course. Forget what’s good for the country – what’s good for THEM?

      Oh, its so much worse then your probably realize. What most people do not understand is, that nearly 80% of all proposed legislation submitted in both the House and the Senate are bills that technically constitute Extortion. That is why Mordor on the Potomac is drowning in Political Lobbyists. Its How turd burglars like Pelosi and McConnell who have salaries of mere hundreds of thousands of dollars a year manage to end up with tens to hundreds of million dollars fortunes.

      The pukes in Congress write up proposed legislation that would for example make Hog Farming illegal in Rural Counties with populations greater to 10,000, and then they make sure that the Hog Farmer’s know about said proposed legislation, and how said legislation could be modified to not impact them should a political donation be made to whichever Congress Criminal wrote the bill.

      Trumps tax policies and his other financial policies are seriously putting a knee into the Congressional Extortion capabilities. Remember Trump’s requirement that for every new regulation passed, two had to be eliminated? That was a size 16 Air Assault Jump boot put up Congresses Extortion practicing Ass.

      The Deep State understands that Trump isn’t just eliminating the obvious corruption, he is going after their revenue sources as well. The Political Aristocracy doesn’t mind if their numbers get culled from time to time, they accept that as part of the charade they play. Going after how they finance their Criminal Syndicate on the other hand gets them quiet riled up.


    12. RIX
      12 | November 12, 2017 5:28 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      Did you watch the carnage in Miami last night?


    13. eaglesoars
      13 | November 12, 2017 5:57 pm

      so is he setting himself up for an “I quit” scenario when they laugh him out of the room?

      Report: Roger Goodell Seeking $50M Salary, Private Jet for Life in New Contract

      http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2743820


    14. eaglesoars
      14 | November 12, 2017 6:03 pm

      big earthquake in Iraq/Iran, 7.2 mag, 60+ confirmed dead

      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-12/massive-quake-hits-near-iran-iraq-border-damage-reported-baghdad


    15. coldwarrior
      15 | November 12, 2017 6:40 pm

      RIX wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      Did you watch the carnage in Miami last night?

      i couldnt take it. so i shut it off.


    16. lobo91
      16 | November 12, 2017 7:31 pm

      Someone’s not clear on the concept:

      Rep Peter King: Moore Must ‘Prove His Innocence’ or ‘Step Down’

      Friday on MSNBC, Rep. Peter King (R-NY) said Alabama Republican U.S. Senate candidate Roy Moore should “prove his innocence” of sexual abuse accusations or “step down.”

      King said, “Ordinarily, the person is entitled to the presumption of innocence. But in this case, it’s so serious, and the fact it’s backed up by other women, and it’s so hideous, I would say unless he can prove his innocence, the burden is on him within the next day, or so, he should step down. He owes it to the state and the U.S. Senate.”

      He continued, “You could always have one person saying one thing, and memories could change. That’s all possible. But when you have this type of corroboration, it’s a burden on him, and the fact he’s sending out fundraising appeals based on this to me is really, really bad form.”

      He added, “I’m saying I think the balance is shifted here. The burden is now on him. If he can’t disprove the charges in a brief period of time, then he should step aside. These are among the most hideous crimes you could imagine. To me, this is despicable, a 14-year-old girl. It’s beyond any comprehension.”


    17. AZfederalist
      17 | November 12, 2017 7:54 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      King said, “Ordinarily, the person is entitled to the presumption of innocence. But in this case, it’s so serious, and the fact it’s backed up by other women, and it’s so hideous, I would say unless he can prove his innocence, the burden is on him within the next day, or so, he should step down.

      Ah, we are back to the old “It’s not the nature of the evidence, it is the seriousness of the charges” in the democrat playbook. And the Palooka party members like Peter King jump right on board like a bunch of gangly teenagers following the cool kid.


    18. AZfederalist
      18 | November 12, 2017 7:56 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      If he can’t disprove the charges in a brief period of time, then he should step aside.

      So Peter, let’s turn things around here. Let’s say the dems decide to come after you next, are you going to be able to prove you are innocent of pedophilia charges for an accusation from 40 years ago?


    19. lobo91
      19 | November 12, 2017 7:58 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      I don’t believe that for a minute.

      I heard it was bestiality


    20. Deplorable Bumr50
      20 | November 12, 2017 7:58 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      These are among the most hideous crimes you could imagine.

      Forgive me, but IIRC even the claims didn’t involve anything violent and no actual sex occurred.

      I know if true it’s sick, but maybe Peter King needs to go look at some of the “most hideous crimes” so he can lay off the hyperbole.


    21. AZfederalist
      21 | November 12, 2017 8:18 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      lobo91 wrote:

      These are among the most hideous crimes you could imagine.

      Forgive me, but IIRC even the claims didn’t involve anything violent and no actual sex occurred.

      I know if true it’s sick, but maybe Peter King needs to go look at some of the “most hideous crimes” so he can lay off the hyperbole.

      Funny, isn’t it? When a dem is accused of something, the rest of the dems circle the wagons, go after the accuser and take care of their own regardless of how hideous the transgression. As such, Teddy Kennedy, Chuck Dodd, Barney Frank and others managed to remain in power for decades. When a Republican is accused of something, it’s a mad scramble by the republican leaders to the microphones to be the first to throw the accused, no matter how flimsy the evidence or the accusation, overboard and to the sharks. … and then turn around, smiling to both the press and the dems (but I repeat myself) saying, “see! We aren’t like that, we have high standards!” When it turns out down the road the whole thing was bogus they just shrug like doofuses and act like nothing ever happened.

      It’s maddening.


    22. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      22 | November 12, 2017 8:27 pm

      As if Kasich hadn’t already committed political suicide over the last year or so, he doubles down on the stupidity.

      http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/11/robert-farago/ohio-governor-john-kasich-bbq-pork-eating-surrender-monkey/

      Yes, Kasich has come up solidly anti-second amendment.


    23. lobo91
      23 | November 12, 2017 8:31 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      He should just switch parties


    24. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      24 | November 12, 2017 9:11 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      He should just switch parties

      Yep, at this point it’s just becoming absurd.


    25. AZfederalist
      25 | November 12, 2017 9:34 pm

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      Yep, at this point it’s just becoming absurd.

      But his dad was a mailman. That’s gotta count for something.

      /Not sure what, but he sure thinks that’s important.


    26. Deplorable Bumr50
      26 | November 12, 2017 10:31 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      My current mailman sucks.


    27. eaglesoars
      27 | November 12, 2017 11:11 pm

      It’s over. We are back.

      you will never guess who tweeted this last nite

      Yeb!

      I can’t even……………….

      https://twitter.com/JebBush/status/929541504187686912


    28. Deplorable Bumr50
      28 | November 12, 2017 11:19 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Please clap.


    29. Deplorable Bumr50
      29 | November 12, 2017 11:22 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      FWIW, people are saying he’s tweeting about the Convicts victory over the Catholics on Saturday.

      Can’t even twitter right.


    30. eaglesoars
      30 | November 12, 2017 11:36 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      I didn’t see that in the comments (that I skimmed because I wasn’t sure what he was talking about). Was the timing right?


    31. eaglesoars
      31 | November 13, 2017 12:00 am

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      Yep, at this point it’s just becoming absurd.

      it gets worse

      Kasich: Roy Moore Should Step Aside — ‘Everything in Life Can’t Be About Who Wins an Election’

      translation: but I’m gonna run until I win SOMETHING

      http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/11/12/kasich-roy-moore-step-aside-everything-life-cant-wins-election/


    32. eaglesoars
      32 | November 13, 2017 12:30 am

      I don’t know how credible this is but I’ll just leave it here

      Jerry Jones Forfeiting Cowboys Reportedly Discussed by Owners over Goodell Saga

      On Sunday, Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk cited a league source who said “multiple owners already have been discussing the possibility, which flows from Article VIII of the NFL’s Constitution and Bylaws.”

      One of the sections of the article allows the commissioner to essentially force the forfeiture of a team if the owner “has been or is guilty of conduct detrimental to the welfare of the league or professional football” and a $500,000 fine is deemed “not adequate or sufficient.”

      Florio granted such a move “would trigger years of litigation” and explained the notion of applying it to Jones specifically “comes from the belief among owners that Jones instigated Papa John’s CEO John Schnatter to disparage the NFL, blaming league leadership for ratings declines and, in turn, a reduction in Papa John’s revenues.”

      nite


    33. 33 | November 13, 2017 12:31 am

      @ lobo91:
      How the hell do you prove a negative?


    34. lobo91
      34 | November 13, 2017 12:52 am

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ lobo91:
      How the hell do you prove a negative?

      You can’t, of course. Which is the point


    35. 35 | November 13, 2017 1:46 am

      @ lobo91:
      Two negatives make a positive, but two positives do not make a negative.
      Yeah.
      Right.


    36. rain of lead
      36 | November 13, 2017 3:09 am

      Fly out in a few hours for my surgery, not been able to sleep. God I hope they fix this right


    37. Buckeye Abroad
      37 | November 13, 2017 3:37 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      Did you watch the carnage in Miami last night?

      i couldnt take it. so i shut it off.

      Did the same. It was like watching the Buckeyes vs Iowa all over again.


    38. 38 | November 13, 2017 7:38 am

      I wonder how much the Pentagon paid the NFL this time. Last time, they paid $5.4 million to ‘salute troops’, but that was during the Обама Regime.


    39. eaglesoars
      39 | November 13, 2017 7:57 am

      Am I the only person who was clueless (again) about this?

      U.S. Breaks Ground for New Permanent Military Base in Israel

      https://pamelageller.com/2017/11/u-s-breaks-ground-new-permanent-base-israel.html/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

      @ rain of lead:

      god speed, sweetie.


    40. 40 | November 13, 2017 10:15 am

      AZfederalist wrote:

      lobo91 wrote:

      King said, “Ordinarily, the person is entitled to the presumption of innocence. But in this case, it’s so serious, and the fact it’s backed up by other women, and it’s so hideous, I would say unless he can prove his innocence, the burden is on him within the next day, or so, he should step down.

      Ah, we are back to the old “It’s not the nature of the evidence, it is the seriousness of the charges” in the democrat playbook. And the Palooka party members like Peter King jump right on board like a bunch of gangly teenagers following the cool kid.

      They must find for me the cries for McCain to step down when the New York Times published a story about his alleged affair with a staffer.


    41. 41 | November 13, 2017 10:34 am

      Deplorable Macker wrote:

      I wonder how much the Pentagon paid the NFL this time. Last time, they paid $5.4 million to ‘salute troops’, but that was during the Обама Regime.

      They really went overboard yesterday. Camo sideline gear, camo towels, camo patches on the uniform.

      But as Flyboy pointed out watching this — the American Flag goes on the LEFT shoulder, not the right, and you are not entitled to use the gold-bordered flag unless you have SERVED.

      And of course, the 49-dirtbags had their resident kneeler, Eric Reid, there to disrespect everyone. He should have been told to stay in the locker room.

      And let’s see, wasn’t it about 10 days ago that Krapperdick’s attention-whore attorney was saying that he was SURE he’d be signed by an NFL team in the next couple of weeks? How’s that going for you?

      BTW, I need to ask a question about the Roy Moore thing. So if I understand it correctly, the 14-year-old goes on a “date” with Moore, is taken to a remote cabin and, to put it delicately, messed with a little. She then goes back a SECOND time?


    42. RIX
      42 | November 13, 2017 10:56 am

      http://nypost.com/2017/11/12/goodells-absurd-contract-demands-leak-and-this-is-getting-ugly/
      @ NY Post
      Roger Goodell is ruining the NFL brand coddling the kneeling thugs, but wants a humungus raise and perks.
      Fire him.


    43. 43 | November 13, 2017 11:28 am

      @ RIX:

      Eagles had a great point above – Goodell is making demands that make it impossible to renew his contract so he gets to say “they wouldn’t meet my demands” and walk away. He cannot be delusional enough to think that the league thinks he’s done a good job? If he is, he’s mentally incompetent to serve as the Commissioner.

      When he goes, he can take that walking turd Joe Lockhart with him.

      BTW, I hear there’s a big boycott of Keurig for pulling their advertising from Hannity based on a request from someone at Media Matters. Video on Twitter of people throwing their Keurig’s off a balcony and trashing them.

      Is it just me, or does destroying a $200 coffee maker that you have ALREADY PAID FOR seem like a silly thing to do. If anything, don’t buy another one when it’s time to replace. And don’t buy “Green Mountain Coffee” pods as tha company is owned by Keurig.

      Also, if Keurig made this decision based on a single tweet, they’re idiots. They might ask those advertisers who came crawling back to Limbaugh fared.


    44. RIX
      44 | November 13, 2017 1:05 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:
      True, I would not destroy a coffee maker to make a point.
      No matter what, I am not tossing out my Blue Moona.


    45. 45 | November 13, 2017 1:19 pm

      Nothing like finding out at 9am about an interview at 12:30 pm, when you don’t have time to prep for it.


    46. eaglesoars
      47 | November 13, 2017 2:38 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      Nothing like finding out at 9am about an interview at 12:30 pm, when you don’t have time to prep for it.

      Good luck!

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:
      @ RIX:

      I have idea why people get involved in trivia like this. I’ve been on twitter awhile, and tho it can be a great deal of fun, and a good source for news, I think because it’s so widely public it gives people an inflated idea of their own importance. It’s a lot like high school.

      Well, we just got back from the final follow-up with Hubby’s surgeon and he got the all clear. No restrictions, back to normal. Sees the cardiologist on Weds for final med adjustments and that’s it. W00T!


    47. eaglesoars
      48 | November 13, 2017 2:44 pm

      Yep, every metro sexual guy’s idea of a role model.

      Colin Kaepernick named GQ’s Citizen of the Year

      https://twitter.com/axios/status/930066346943156224


    48. eaglesoars
      49 | November 13, 2017 2:50 pm

      Roy Moore is going to be a Senator from Alabama for the rest of his life

      JUST IN: Attorney Gloria Allred to hold press conference today in New York with new accuser of former Alabama Judge Roy Moore

      https://twitter.com/JesseRodriguez/status/930094610696851456


    49. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      50 | November 13, 2017 3:26 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Roy Moore is going to be a Senator from Alabama for the rest of his life

      JUST IN: Attorney Gloria Allred to hold press conference today in New York with new accuser of former Alabama Judge Roy Moore

      https://twitter.com/JesseRodriguez/status/930094610696851456

      Well, Allred is involved. I think we can confirm at least this accuser is fake.


    50. 51 | November 13, 2017 5:44 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      On and HER accuser is of course claiming attempted rape. Naturally.
      I hope when this is over, win or lose the election, Roy Moore sues EVERY one of these women for defamation.

      They are counting on the fact that after the election they will be allowed to fade into the woodwork. This is a pattern and practice with Democrats that needs to stop.


    51. 52 | November 13, 2017 5:53 pm

      I’m done with Twitchy and that muckraking piece of sh*t known as “Sarah D.” Never going back.


    52. 53 | November 13, 2017 6:25 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Thanks. There are 7 people interviewing for 3 positions. I’ll have an edge since I’ve been in the position before as a seasonal TL, but I don’t have the technical background that others might have. Should know by Friday.


    53. Bordm
      54 | November 13, 2017 7:57 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Well, we just got back from the final follow-up with Hubby’s surgeon and he got the all clear. No restrictions, back to normal. Sees the cardiologist on Weds for final med adjustments and that’s it. W00T!

      Great news….


    54. eaglesoars
      55 | November 13, 2017 8:00 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      look at this photo. see that portrait she’s holding? Is that supposed to be her at 16 or something?

      http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/13/beverly-young-nelson-roy-moore-gloria-allred/

      this man held office in Alabama for 40 yrs. If fathers thought he was a threat to their daughters, the Atchafalaya Swamp is just across the border.


    55. Deplorable Bumr50
      56 | November 13, 2017 8:26 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Yes.

      My guess is she probably doesn’t have a photo of herself at 16 that makes her look attractive enough to substantiate her claims.

      Pure Gloria.

      They probably showed a guy on the boardwalk a picture from a magazine advertisement.


    56. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      57 | November 13, 2017 8:32 pm

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-secret-correspondence-between-donald-trump-jr-and-wikileaks/ar-BBEVstD

      Wow, MSN has become desperate. This is their newest smear attack. Even in this attack they had to admit that Wikileaks was talking to Jr and he wasn’t really talking back. They specifically say “one-sided” communication.


    57. eaglesoars
      58 | November 13, 2017 8:36 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      Don Jr has already released the entire thread, the oversight committees have had it for awhile, and he’s got all of 3 tweets. I don’t know what The Atlantic thought it was scoring because it sure looks like an own goal.


    58. eaglesoars
      59 | November 13, 2017 8:37 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      My guess is she probably doesn’t have a photo of herself at 16 that makes her look attractive enough to substantiate her claims.

      where’s the fucking yearbook he signed? she doesn’t have a pic in there?


    59. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      60 | November 13, 2017 8:41 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      Don Jr has already released the entire thread, the oversight committees have had it for awhile, and he’s got all of 3 tweets. I don’t know what The Atlantic thought it was scoring because it sure looks like an own goal.

      Agreed, and at least they got MSn.com to look stupid too.


    60. eaglesoars
      61 | November 13, 2017 8:52 pm

      This is a horrifying piece on the drug ravaging happening in parts of Penna.

      http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/11/its_just_old_people_and_addict.html


    61. Deplorable Bumr50
      62 | November 13, 2017 9:17 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      There are rapidly increasing numbers of vehicles here around the burgh with window decals and bumper stickers reading “Shoot Your Local Heroin Dealer.”


    62. lobo91
      63 | November 13, 2017 9:19 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      There are rapidly increasing numbers of vehicles here around the burgh with window decals and bumpers tickers reading “Shoot Your Local Heroin Dealer.”

      I’m surprised at the number of inmates we have now who are heroin addicts. A year ago, it was mostly meth.


    63. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      64 | November 13, 2017 9:26 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      There are rapidly increasing numbers of vehicles here around the burgh with window decals and bumpers tickers reading “Shoot Your Local Heroin Dealer.”

      I’m surprised at the number of inmates we have now who are heroin addicts. A year ago, it was mostly meth.

      Yeah, we have a mix of both here in my town. Accounts for the massive uptick of crime (robberies and car thefts mostly), and the huge amount of hit and runs.


    64. Deplorable Bumr50
      65 | November 13, 2017 9:27 pm

      @ lobo91:

      I wonder about supply. Heroin needs to be imported, whereas fentanyl I BELIEVE can be synthesized.


    65. eaglesoars
      66 | November 13, 2017 9:27 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:
      @ lobo91:
      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      I wonder what CW is seeing in trauma/ER


    66. Deplorable Bumr50
      67 | November 13, 2017 9:29 pm

      We’ve also seen an uptick in carfentanyl deaths and busts.


    67. Deplorable Bumr50
      68 | November 13, 2017 9:31 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Probably a lot of dead young people.

      In a first, fentanyl overtakes heroin in Allegheny County overdose deaths

      Drug overdose deaths in Allegheny County increased nearly 44 percent from 2015 to 2016, according to data released Thursday by the medical examiner.

      In 2016, 610 people died from drug overdoses, said Dr. Karl Williams, Allegheny County’s medical examiner.

      Opioids were found in about three-quarters of those victims. Most of them were either heroin or fentanyl, he said.

      Overdose deaths in 2015 totaled 424, data show. The 2016 total is almost double the number of overdose deaths in 2014 — 306.

      “This rise is fueled by the opioid class of drugs, and follows a pattern seen throughout the larger Appalachian and Midwest regions,” Williams said. “For the past several years, we have seen a progressive increase in the contribution of fentanyl.”

      Last year, for the first time, he said, fentanyl was found more frequently in toxicology reports than heroin.

      He noted that overdoses almost always involve more than one drug, and he acknowledged that the county still faces problems with alcohol and prescription medication abuse, which can lead to opioid addiction, and the benzodiazepine class of drugs.

      Pittsburgh paramedics used Narcan – the brand name of the overdose reversal drug naloxone — to reverse 2,320 overdoses in 2016, up from 1,198 in the year prior.

      Additionally, there were nearly 5,700 emergency room visits because of drug overdoses in 2016, up from about 3,750 in 2015, according to the data.

      Pittsburgh police and firefighters also carry Narcan, as do more than 70 municipal police departments across the county.

      In 2014, across Pennsylvania, more than 2,500 people died from drug overdoses.

      The total rose about 40 percent in 2015 to nearly 3,500, and officials have predicted that the 2016 statewide total will surpass that.

      http://triblive.com/local/allegheny/12166029-74/in-a-first-fentanyl-overtakes-heroin-in-allegheny-county-overdose-deaths


    68. Deplorable Bumr50
      69 | November 13, 2017 9:44 pm

      Cruz pulls support from Moore: Allegations merit ‘criminal prosecution’ if true

      http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/360205-cruz-pulls-support-from-roy-moore-allegations-merit-criminal-prosecution-if


    69. eaglesoars
      70 | November 13, 2017 9:45 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      my understanding is that fentanyl is ‘x’ times stronger (however that’s measured) than heroin, so I would expect a higher overdose rate.


    70. lobo91
      71 | November 13, 2017 9:48 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      That’s an awfully big “if.”

      And then there’s the issue of statute of limitations. We’re talking about stuff that allegedly happened almost 40 years ago, without a scrap of physical evidence.

      What’s there to prosecute?


    71. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      72 | November 13, 2017 9:50 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      Cruz pulls support from Moore: Allegations merit ‘criminal prosecution’ if true

      http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/360205-cruz-pulls-support-from-roy-moore-allegations-merit-criminal-prosecution-if

      Yeah, I’m embarrassed. Daines pulled his support two days ago.


    72. lobo91
      73 | November 13, 2017 9:52 pm

      Why fentanyl is deadlier than heroin, in a single photo

      The opioid crisis just keeps getting worse, in part because new types of drugs keep finding their way onto the streets. Fentanyl, heroin’s synthetic cousin, is among the worst offenders.

      It’s deadly because it’s so much stronger than heroin, as shown by the photograph above, which was taken at the New Hampshire State Police Forensic Laboratory. On the left is a lethal dose of heroin, equivalent to about 30 milligrams; on the right is a 3-milligram dose of fentanyl, enough to kill an average-sized adult male.

      Fentanyl, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, is up to 100 times more potent than morphine and many times that of heroin.

      Drugs users generally don’t know when their heroin is laced with fentanyl, so when they inject their usual quantity of heroin, they can inadvertently take a deadly dose of the substance. In addition, while dealers try to include fentanyl to improve potency, their measuring equipment usually isn’t fine-tuned enough to ensure they stay below the levels that could cause users to overdose. Plus, the fentanyl sold on the street is almost always made in a clandestine lab; it is less pure than the pharmaceutical version and thus its effect on the body can be more unpredictable.


    73. eaglesoars
      74 | November 13, 2017 9:55 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      Allegations merit ‘criminal prosecution’ if true

      Ted, allow me to introduce you to Statute of Limitations.


    74. Deplorable Bumr50
      75 | November 13, 2017 9:57 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      What’s there to prosecute?

      Nothing.

      And Cruz was a prosecutor.

      What’s that tell you about Cruz?

      He could have said “There are too many questions” or something of the like, but no.


    75. eaglesoars
      76 | November 13, 2017 10:12 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      Plus, the fentanyl sold on the street is almost always made in a clandestine lab; it is less pure than the pharmaceutical version and thus its effect on the body can be more unpredictable.

      same thing that happened with crack. It killed off its customers


    76. lobo91
      77 | November 13, 2017 10:13 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      lobo91 wrote:

      Plus, the fentanyl sold on the street is almost always made in a clandestine lab; it is less pure than the pharmaceutical version and thus its effect on the body can be more unpredictable.

      same thing that happened with crack. It killed off its customers

      Before that it was PCP. I remember talking to a cop back when I was in high school who said that they didn’t bother with the users, since they’d be dead soon enough. They only went after the dealers.


    77. eaglesoars
      78 | November 13, 2017 10:18 pm

      @ lobo91:

      I had a friend who actually left the force because the PCP users were so violent, it got to the point where his first instinct was to pull his weapon. HE ended up in the ER 3 times. He had to quit before he killed somebody


    78. Deplorable Bumr50
      79 | November 13, 2017 10:20 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      same thing that happened with crack. It killed off its customers

      Anybody can make crack.

      I only say this because I haven’t heard of any “fentanyl lab busts,” yet the process is pretty involved and the amount on the streets is alarming.

      Like I said, lately, carfentanyl.

      It’s not something an idiot can do.

      Perhaps it’s being manufactured outside the country.


    79. AZfederalist
      80 | November 13, 2017 10:21 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      What’s that tell you about Cruz?

      He could have said “There are too many questions” or something of the like, but no.

      Democrats circle the wagons, Republicans throw the accused to the sharks. … and all they have is accusations, no evidence. The accusation is all it takes


    80. eaglesoars
      81 | November 13, 2017 10:27 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:

      same thing that happened with crack. It killed off its customers

      Anybody can make crack.

      I only say this because I haven’t heard of any “fentanyl lab busts,” yet the process is pretty involved and the amount on the streets is alarming.

      Like I said, lately, carfentanyl.

      It’s not something an idiot can do.

      Perhaps it’s being manufactured outside the country.

      Well, if it’s involved and requires some smarts, its safe to say there aren’t many of them and they’re going to be located near a quick/easy distribution route. Like the 95 corridor.


    81. eaglesoars
      82 | November 13, 2017 10:54 pm

      uh oh. That Roy Moore year book autograph dated 1977 that says “Roy Moore 1977′?

      http://www.businessinsider.com/roy-moore-yearbook-sexual-assault-beverly-young-nelson-2017-11

      Can’t be. He wasn’t the D.A. He didn’t get his law degree until 1977 and then he went into private practice

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Moore


    82. AZfederalist
      83 | November 13, 2017 10:58 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Can’t be. He wasn’t the D.A. He didn’t get his law degree until 1977 and then he went into private practice

      Oops. You’d think the dems would get people who are making false accusations and do a bit of research


    83. Deplorable Bumr50
      84 | November 13, 2017 11:02 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      I seriously think that they, along with everyone else (Deep State, GOPe), are doing this more than anything to prove to themselves that they can still do it after Trump’s election.

      The Senate is already saying that they won’t “accept” him if he wins.

      Expect mayhem if that happens.


    84. eaglesoars
      85 | November 13, 2017 11:05 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      Oops. You’d think the dems would get people who are making false accusations and do a bit of research

      twitter is actually good for something. a few of us decided to go looking at the same time – approx – and are trying to get it out there. I’m stunned Moore’s people aren’t doing the same.


    85. eaglesoars
      86 | November 13, 2017 11:06 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      You’d think the dems would get people who are making false accusations and do a bit of research

      yeah, except it was the GOPe. These people fuck up their own scandals


    86. Deplorable Bumr50
      87 | November 13, 2017 11:25 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      Judge Roy Moore is a life-long Alabamian and a committed constitutional conservative that has stood up for liberty and religious freedom his entire career.
      Judge Moore graduated from Etowah High School in Attalla, Alabama, in 1965 and from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point in 1969 where he received a Bachelor of Science Degree in Arts and Engineering. He then served in the U.S. Army as a company commander with the Military Police Corps in Vietnam. After the Army, Judge Moore completed his Juris Doctor degree from The University of Alabama School of Law in 1977.
      During his legal career, Judge Moore became the first full-time Deputy District Attorney in Etowah County, Alabama, and served in this position from 1977 until 1982. In 1984, Judge Moore undertook private practice of law in Gadsden, Alabama.

      https://www.roymoore.org/About-Judge-Moore/


    87. eaglesoars
      88 | November 13, 2017 11:31 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      He graduated in 1977 with a Juris Doctor degree and returned to Gadsden to begin private practice with a focus on personal injury and insurance cases.


    88. eaglesoars
      89 | November 13, 2017 11:33 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      I think we’re seeing conflation of terms: ‘prosecutor’ and ‘district attorney’


    89. eaglesoars
      90 | November 13, 2017 11:45 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      ok, no we’re not.


    90. Deplorable Bumr50
      91 | November 13, 2017 11:46 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      I gotta sleep, eagles.

      I’m sure more will unfold by the time I get up.

      Nite.


    91. eaglesoars
      92 | November 13, 2017 11:56 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      ok, no we’re not.

      But I still say that I don’t buy people thought he was dodgy for decades and continued to vote him into an office where he could determine who goes to jail. AND, I cannot think of ONE parent in the south who, if they thought this guy was a threat to their daughters, wouldn’t make use of the Atchafalaya. He gets banned from the mall but still gets voted into office? How does that even work?


    92. eaglesoars
      93 | November 13, 2017 11:57 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      me too. nite.


    93. coldwarrior
      94 | November 14, 2017 12:18 am

      new thread, night yinz!


    94. 95 | November 14, 2017 10:25 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      look at this photo. see that portrait she’s holding? Is that supposed to be her at 16 or something?

      http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/13/beverly-young-nelson-roy-moore-gloria-allred/

      this man held office in Alabama for 40 yrs. If fathers thought he was a threat to their daughters, the Atchafalaya Swamp is just across the border.

      This is the South. They are NOT afraid to go tell Papa and/or their brothers if some man manhandles them. Oh, and did she tell any of her friends afterward? Sorry, but there’s no way she would have kept this to herself.

      The fact that Allred is her lawyer tells me she’s full of it.


    95. RIX
      96 | November 14, 2017 1:04 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      Did you watch the carnage in Miami last night?

      i couldnt take it. so i shut it off.

      I should have, but it was like a train wreck. I couldn’t take my eyes off of it.


    96. RIX
      97 | November 14, 2017 1:17 pm

      RIX wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      Did you watch the carnage in Miami last night?

      i couldnt take it. so i shut it off.

      I should have, but it was like a train wreck. I couldn’t take my eyes off of it.


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