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  • NeverTrumper Open #1

    by coldwarrior ( 52 Comments › )
    Filed under Economy, Open thread at December 8th, 2017 - 5:49 pm

    I was told on THIS very blog that if Trump were elected the economy would collapse because he did not follow the ‘Pure Way Of The Light’ as foretold by the CONservatives (r) ™. He did not follow the Purity of The Way of The Light’ on Globalism and the sham that is “Free Trade’.  Some of us knew that the economic and trade policies inflicted on America were designed to destroy the Middle Class and make political and economic beggars out of the hoi poli on  Left AND the Right, make EVERYONE dependent on DC and ensure power to the self-appointed elitists/socialists on both sides of the aisle. This decapitation of the economy was Socialism, pure and simple…Socialism on a Global scale and many morons on the right fell for it so that they could remain ideologically ‘pure’ to what they thought Smith and Friedman were saying. Willful ignorance or purposeful misrepresentation, you decide.

    Well, the rest of the country decided to say, “here, hold my beer and watch this”. They gave the middle finger to our self-appointed, ideologically pure elitists, and elected Trump. Much to the chagrin and name calling on both the Left and especially the ‘so called’ Right.

    Well, LO and BEHOLD! One year in and we are well over 3+% growth and now this:

    JOBS TRUMP EXPECTATIONS....
    +228,000 NOVEMBER...

    2.2 Million New Jobs Since Election...
    Record low unemployment rate for manufacturing...
    Hispanic unemployment rate drops to 4.7% - LOWEST in history of USA... MORE...

    Believe me, NeverTrumpers, the accounting for your errors has not even begun.

    And just to spike the football a bit:

    Hundreds of ISIS fighters had just been chased out of a northern Syrian city and were fleeing through the desert in long convoys, presenting an easy target to U.S. A-10 “warthogs.”

    But the orders to bomb the black-clad jihadists never came, and the terrorists melted into their caliphate — living to fight another day. The events came in August 2016, even as then-Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump was vowing on the campaign trail to let generals in his administration crush the organization that, under President Obama, had grown from the “jayvee team” to the world’s most feared terrorist organization.

     

     

     

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    52 Responses to “NeverTrumper Open #1”
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    1. coldwarrior
      1 | December 8, 2017 5:55 pm

      someone needs to tell the ghetto fabulous half black ex-president that he cant both blame bush for the bad economy and then take credit for Trump’s YUGE econ growth.

      it doesnt work that way no matter how hard you play that race card.


    2. Deplorable Bumr50
      2 | December 8, 2017 6:08 pm

      Rich Lowry: Trump presidency not nearly as bad as it sounds

      http://newsok.com/rich-lowry-trump-presidency-not-nearly-as-bad-as-it-sounds/article/5574279

      Still waiting for the “We Are SO, SO Sorry” issue…


    3. coldwarrior
      3 | December 8, 2017 6:11 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      Still waiting for the “We Are SO, SO Sorry” issue…

      you will NEVER get that from the NeverTrumers, ever. so that means NROs click farm must be way down on $$$


    4. Deplorable Bumr50
      4 | December 8, 2017 6:18 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      I knew as well as you did, apart from how successful Trump has been, NOBODY ELSE on that initial GOP primary stage could have won the election.

      NOBODY.

      I have ZERO doubts about that.


    5. coldwarrior
      5 | December 8, 2017 6:20 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      indeed.


    6. coldwarrior
      6 | December 8, 2017 6:20 pm

      salt mines….next 7 of 8 days…

      later yinz!


    7. 7 | December 8, 2017 7:16 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      someone needs to tell the ghetto fabulous half black ex-president that he cant both blame bush for the bad economy and then take credit for Trump’s YUGE econ growth.

      it doesnt work that way no matter how hard you play that race card.

      What is killing Obama is that all of the dire economic predictions about a Trump Presidency, which he was prepared to expound on with much schadenfreude, have not come to pass. His own administration claimed that the so-called “recession” ended in July 2009 – because blessed Obama had healed the economy. He believed all he had to do was keep printing money and watch the stock market go up. Look at the way they manipulated the way unemployment numbers were calculated in order to show that we had jobs, jobs, jobs. Unfortunately, the non-manipulative factors pointed to a dreadful economy – workforce participation and especially the quarterly GDP. He had maybe 1 or 2 quarters where GDP got near 3 and was then revised downward quietly.

      There is nothing in the Obama economy that accounts for this post-election resultant economic growth and while his ass-licking followers believe it (you should see them on Twitter – I feel my IQ goes down 10 points just reading their drivel) and Obama must be inwardly seething at the economic numbers, knowing full well that Trump’s policies are pushing them forward. So of course, his narcissic demand for attention and adulation forces him to jump up and claim credit for it.

      I would ask him the same question that I ask his sycophants. “What particular economic policy accounts for this?”


    8. AZfederalist
      8 | December 8, 2017 7:36 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      There is nothing in the Obama economy that accounts for this post-election resultant economic growth and while his ass-licking followers believe it (you should see them on Twitter – I feel my IQ goes down 10 points just reading their drivel) and Obama must be inwardly seething at the economic numbers, knowing full well that Trump’s policies are pushing them forward. So of course, his narcissic demand for attention and adulation forces him to jump up and claim credit for it.

      Yep, the NYT link is full of the sycophants praising Obama. Thing is, why did this “recovery” take 8 years and a change in administration before 3% growth? You can’t credit the previous administration. It’s quite different than blaming a president that the economy has not recovered from the condition it was in only one year after taking office. The market improvement to the Trump election is highly correlated. Highly. It started almost immediately after the election.


    9. RIX
      9 | December 8, 2017 8:06 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      @ Deplorable Bumr50:
      The thing that I got tired of during the campaign was the never Trump crew self-describing as principled
      conservatives. The implicit message was that YOU are unprincipled. Even today they are a de facto wing
      of the Resistance.


    10. lobo91
      10 | December 8, 2017 8:55 pm

      Puerto Rico gives out $100 million in bonuses after pleading for $94 billion in hurricane relief

      Puerto Rico Gov. Ricardo Rossello Nevares last month asked federal taxpayers to shell out $94 billion to pay for the territory’s recovery from Hurricane Maria — then turned around and paid out about $100 million in Christmas bonuses to island government employees.

      The governor’s aides say the bonuses are a longstanding tradition and part of the law, and were planned for in the budget approved last summer.
      But that budget came well before Hurricanes Irma and Maria slammed into Puerto Rico, leaving much of the territory in ruin and leaving the government begging for federal assistance.

      The island’s financial oversight board, created by Congress as part of a deal to bail the government out of a potential debt default last year, called the payments “imprudent” and said the hurricanes should have forced the governor to rethink his decisions.

      And the payments could dent Mr. Rossello Nevares’ efforts to get Capitol Hill to pony up for the recovery, where the $94 billion price tag the island has set is already meeting with shock.


    11. 11 | December 8, 2017 10:53 pm

      Never heard anything about the job. I don’t know if they just haven’t made a decision yet or if someone else got the job.


    12. Deplorable Bumr50
      12 | December 8, 2017 11:06 pm

      @ right_wing2:

      Prayers up.

      Maybe they’re waiting until Monday.


    13. 13 | December 8, 2017 11:43 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:
      Always possible. Seems kind of crazy though since training starts Monday & I’m off on Monday.


    14. Deplorable Bumr50
      14 | December 8, 2017 11:52 pm

      @ right_wing2:

      I’m hopeful for you.

      I’m not making much money right now, but we’re making ends meet.

      My wife’s job is in jeopardy, though, and she covers the bennies. Double whammie is that she works for a non-profit and they’re not required to pay unemployment.

      If I have to pick up bennies, I’m not going to be making much at all (they’re much more expensive).


    15. 15 | December 9, 2017 1:11 am

      Good evening everyone! Here’s an update….
      Well, they did not get it all. I’ve been referred to see the oncologists at the Spectrum Health Lemmen-Holton Cancer Pavilion in 10 days. There will be 2 doctors and a number of support staff who I get to sit down with to discuss the Bad-Ass Chemo treatment.
      The first two questions out of my mouth will be: OK where is it, exactly! and What Stage is it? I want to see pix! And I’ll be taking my laptop with me, I want to take copious notes!
      So, I ask for your continued prayers. Thanks.


    16. 16 | December 9, 2017 6:57 am

      @ Deplorable Macker:
      Prayers for you Macker.


    17. rain of lead
      17 | December 9, 2017 7:31 am

      @ Deplorable Macker:

      that’s it mack, keep a positive mental attitude!

      no GO! FIGHT! WIN!


    18. coldwarrior
      18 | December 9, 2017 8:21 am

      @ Deplorable Macker:
      Keep her head up. Is your state a medical marijuana state? If so, I suggest you get on it. I have an idea what they are going to do…and it ain’t pretty.

      Positive mental attitude is key here.


    19. RIX
      19 | December 9, 2017 8:55 am

      @ Deplorable Macker:
      Hang in, Prayers


    20. Deplorable Bumr50
      20 | December 9, 2017 9:35 am

      @ Deplorable Macker:

      Prayers.

      You will beat this!


    21. Deplorable Bumr50
      21 | December 9, 2017 10:40 am

      The Hollywood Rape Machine

      http://theothermccain.com/2017/12/09/the-hollywood-rape-machine/#disqus_thread

      This is disgusting.


    22. AZfederalist
      22 | December 9, 2017 10:45 am

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ Deplorable Macker:
      Prayers for you Macker.

      What he said


    23. RIX
      23 | December 9, 2017 11:24 am

      http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/12/trump-curse-hits-us-skier-hard-lindsey-vonn-injured-world-cup-competition-trashing-trump/
      @ Gateway Pundit
      Lindsey Vonn trashes Trump saying that she will not go to the White House if she wins a Winter Olympic event.
      So today she injures herself on a ski run. Karma?


    24. Deplorable Bumr50
      24 | December 9, 2017 11:36 am

      @ RIX:

      Someone needs to make a gif of Trump popping up from behind a mogul right before she crashes.


    25. RIX
      25 | December 9, 2017 11:39 am

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ RIX:

      Someone needs to make a gif of Trump popping up from behind a mogul right before she crashes.

      That would be funny.


    26. lobo91
      26 | December 9, 2017 11:56 am

      This is hilarious:


    27. 27 | December 9, 2017 12:43 pm

      @ RIX:

      I’d say she was afraid more of the Fat LIttle Fuck nuking her ass…!


    28. 28 | December 9, 2017 1:22 pm

      Army v Navy today…. Hmmmm… Wonder who coldwarrior is rooting for… (Go Navy….. )


    29. Deplorable Bumr50
      29 | December 9, 2017 3:35 pm

      Brilliant use of camouflage by Army.


    30. RIX
      30 | December 9, 2017 4:47 pm

      Deplorable Macker wrote:

      @ RIX:

      I’d say she was afraid more of the Fat LIttle Fuck nuking her ass…!

      Lil Rocket Man!


    31. AZfederalist
      31 | December 9, 2017 6:18 pm

      @ lobo91:

      That was downright funny. Lil’ SJW just could not deal with someone disagreeing with her and calling her out on her bias. I don’t usually applaud when someone reduces a woman to tears; in these cases, I make an exception.


    32. lobo91
      32 | December 9, 2017 7:49 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      I thought it was funny how none of the men said a word during the whole thing


    33. 34 | December 9, 2017 9:03 pm

      @ lobo91:
      I didn’t get my white privilege check this month.


    34. 35 | December 9, 2017 9:08 pm

      @ lobo91:
      Low attendance is because of poor play & high ticket/concession prices. Nothing to do with people being PO’d about the players kneeling during the National Anthem.
      ///


    35. AZfederalist
      36 | December 9, 2017 9:16 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      @ AZfederalist:

      I thought it was funny how none of the men said a word during the whole thing

      They aren’t stupid.


    36. lobo91
      37 | December 9, 2017 9:40 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ lobo91:
      Low attendance is because of poor play & high ticket/concession prices. Nothing to do with people being PO’d about the players kneeling during the National Anthem.
      ///

      You’d have to pay me to go to a game in Buffalo in December, anyway


    37. eaglesoars
      38 | December 9, 2017 9:41 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      They aren’t stupid.

      You misspelled ‘suicidal’

      In today’s edition of “I Read This Crap So You Don’t Have To”, we have Dave Weigel of the Washington Post. Dave was hired by WaPo some years ago as a ‘conservative blogger’ in a failed attempt to convince people they are an unbiased media outlet. He resigned from that position in 2010 after getting nailed for private msgs disparaging conservatives. But WaPo kept him on the payroll and he covers Trump. Don’t know if you saw Trump’s speech in Pensacola last nite, but it was a barn burner. Not according to Weigel, tho, who posted photos of a near-empty venue as indicative of the event. He did not tell anyone that the pics were pre-arrival. He got nailed, apologized, deleted the tweets, you know the drill. Another ‘honest mistake’ that is duly forgiven with the issue of a totally crap apology.

      https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2017/12/09/wapo-writer-apologizes-to-president-trump-for-posting-phony-photo-of-empty-arena/


    38. AZfederalist
      39 | December 9, 2017 10:19 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      You misspelled ‘suicidal’

      😆

      Re: Weigel — It was Trump who nailed him. https://www.weaselzippers.us/366998-wapo-reporter-apologizes-for-tweet-on-crowd-size-at-trump-rally/

      As people on WZ were saying, it’s funny that in all of these “mistakes”, “errors”, “mis-statements”, none of them are ever favorable to Trump, they are always disparaging. Once is an accident, twice a coincidence, three times is enemy action.


    39. eaglesoars
      40 | December 9, 2017 10:55 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      enemy action.

      speaking of…Iraq has announced its liberation and defeat of Daesh.

      2-3 days after Syria. We’ll see. The survivors have to go somewhere.

      I have more stuff to do, can’t stay, but just a heads up for the upcoming week in the revolution.

      It seems that wiki/Trump email that tripped up CNN – because they let someone read it to them over the phone as Sept 4 instead of Sept 14 – was leaked to them by someone on the House Intel Comm. Because no one else had it – Trump Jr didn’t even know he had it, never read it, it was just in all the docs he turned over.

      Prime suspects are Adam Schiff and Eric Salwell. Or their staff. Personally, I think it was staff. I think someone transcribed the email by hand – those docs are evidence and chain of custody stuff, etc. – and mis-wrote the date. If you see the actual email, there is NO mistaking the date, no way.

      meh. The way things have been going, it will probably be forgotten in the wake of some new mini-scandal next week.

      nite


    40. eaglesoars
      41 | December 9, 2017 10:58 pm

      one more thing. A synagogue in Sweden’s 2nd largest city – can’t spell the name – was firebombed today with people inside, about 20 masked individuals outside.

      It’s Trump’s fault.


    41. rain of lead
      42 | December 10, 2017 8:12 am

      morning y’all
      this is just funny

      https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/12/09/frank-luntz-goes-to-alabama/


    42. lobo91
      45 | December 10, 2017 11:42 am

      OUTRAGE: Veterans Affairs Office Uses Alec Baldwin Photo as SNL Trump in President’s Place

      A photo posted by a Veterans Affairs physician shows a photograph of Alec Baldwin, in his Saturday Night Live character mocking President Donald Trump, posted in the place of honor at a VA office reserved for the President of the United States, alongside a photo of VA Secretary David Shulkin.


    43. eaglesoars
      46 | December 10, 2017 11:51 am

      @ lobo91:

      Hope he’s got a good pension.

      Not being a doc, I have no idea if the enthusiasm here is warranted, but FWIW

      (Reuters) – More than half of patients with advanced multiple myeloma who had run out of therapeutic options remained in complete remission after receiving bluebird bio Inc’s experimental gene-modifying immunotherapy in a small, early stage study, according to updated data released on Sunday

      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cancer-bluebird-bio-cart/unheard-of-responses-to-bluebird-car-t-therapy-seen-in-myeloma-study-idUSKBN1E40MQ?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5a2d610c04d301331acc3120&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter


    44. Deplorable Bumr50
      47 | December 10, 2017 11:53 am

      @ lobo91:

      Wow. Unhinged.


    45. RIX
      48 | December 10, 2017 12:15 pm

      @ lobo91:
      Hines VA Hospital in Chicago took about two months to hang Trumps portrait.
      Shortly after it was sliced with a knife.
      Nobody believes that it was anyone but a VA employee that did it. Something happened over there tho,
      the support staff now have a much better attitude.


    46. Deplorable Bumr50
      49 | December 10, 2017 12:17 pm

      @ RIX:

      It’s amazing what a little accountability will do.


    47. RIX
      50 | December 10, 2017 12:24 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ RIX:

      It’s amazing what a little accountability will do.

      Amazing isn’t it?


    48. AZfederalist
      52 | December 10, 2017 4:15 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      “Mistakes are precisely the reason that people should trust the media…it’s the process of bringing truth to light,” says Atlantic Senior Editor @davidfrum

      Video at link

      Umm, yeah, that’s convincing. Except that these weren’t “mistakes” in the sense they were accidental errors, these were deliberate lies geared to influence opinion. The “mistakes” were getting caught and not realizing that Trump was not going to just roll over like previous Republican administrations did when these stories hit


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