…Let’s just say, for those of us who have been demeaned by some NeverTrumpers, and who have called out their harsh rhetoric and destructive agenda, it was gratifying to watch this play out. Not only is it time for anti-Trump conservatives to acknowledge this president’s bold and conservative-friendly presidency so far, it is time to call bullshit on those who refuse to do so. Admitting you were wrong—or at least mistaken in your assessment of both the electorate and a president—is never easy. But holding on to a dishonest narrative that a president—who is now doing things that alleged “conservatives” once proclaimed to be among their objectives—is somehow working to undermine those goals, is not being conservative. In fact, it’s just lying.
I suspect all of this is related to the fact that people who fancy themselves smarter than the rest of us—I am looking at you, Tom Nichols—were flat wrong about Trump. They continue to say “we knew who Trump was all along.” Did you really? Did you expect he would govern the way he has? Did you anticipate the massive regulatory rollback, the conservative judicial picks, the snubbing of the global aristocracy, the strong Cabinet choices, the push for energy independence? Did you expect he would expose the appalling lack of integrity in the nation’s media, or usher in frightening revelations about a wholly corrupt Obama Administration, which many NeverTrumpers blatantly ignore?
Here, I’ll answer for you: No, you did not. So perhaps we “Bubbas” who you think fell for “boob bait” (as people such as Rubin and Kristol so eruditely like to put it) knew something you didn’t. Maybe, despite your credentials and advanced degrees and Beltway influence, you were blind to something that the folks out here in flyover country detected about Trump. You were wrong, and you refuse to admit it.
A good week for the president, his voters, and the country. A bad week for the NeverTrump sore losers who keep digging a hole that will be tough—if not impossible—to climb out of. Happy to toss them a rope, though, when the apologies come….
The Lying Nevertrumpers
by coldwarrior ( 85 Comments › )Filed under Donald Trump, Open thread, Politics at December 26th, 2017 - 12:01 am
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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
Happy Boxing Day everyone! Or should that be Wrestling Day?
Today I begin the Chemo process…with an education class. Port goes in on January 2, and I’m pretty sure the actual first Chemo session will be on January 5, since the oncologist I work with is in the office on Tuesdays and Fridays.
And I’m gonna have to take my MacBook Pro with me, since I’d be distracted by my iPad because it has SimCity on it! I’ll be OK though. God will be with me, as well as the praysers from so many people!
A short week this week. Test today, and assuming I pass I THINK I’ll be learning the quality part of the job tomorrow & Thursday while everyone else in class takes calls.
We’re off on Friday and AFAIK I’ll be off on Saturday while they take calls too.
Ramp up starts on Tuesday with the start of tax season.
Better half is off all week, and the plan is to see Star Wars on Sunday with a co-worker & her husband.
@ right_wing2:
I hope you can also see “Darkest Hour” as well. I highly recommend it!
@ Deplorable Macker:
Hang in there Macker. Prayers and good wishes.
@ Deplorable Macker:
That one’s on the list too.
right_wing2 wrote:
Saw it a couple of days ago. Its amazingly… mediocre. Not actually bad per say, but not anything special. “Bright” was actually quiet a bit better. Despite Will Smith’s ridiculous “Scientology” farce of a religion, which he does manage to not speak much of, he usually produces very entertaining movies.
Deplorable Macker wrote:
Haven’t seen it yet, though it is on the list. My prayers are with you, hoping your Chemo goes well. Only one suggestion for you with regards to your Chemo, if you can schedule it close to night time, everything I have read suggests that it is less exhausting if it is done at night, so that you can sleep after it is administered. Has something to do with the fact that during nocturnes,(the normal diurnal sleep cycle) most of your bodies systems shut down and are therefore less negatively impacted by the Chemo.
Chronomodulated chemotherapy
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00432-002-0363-0
Deplorable Macker wrote:
yeppers!
In contrast to the article CW posted about Trumps’s successes, you might enjoy this. I assure you, hilarity will ensue. It was written for Foreign Policy mag and exemplifies a mental disorder than warms the cockles of my heart – or would, if I had one. Delicious passages such as:
It is, of course, our president who finds in smoking entrails the proof of future greatness and prosperity. The reduction of all disagreeable facts and narratives to “fake news” will stand as one of Donald Trump’s most lasting contributions to American culture, far outliving his own tenure. He has, in effect, pressed gerrymandering into the cognitive realm. Your story fights my story; if I can enlist more people on the side of my story, I own the truth. And yet Trump is as much symptom as cause of our national disorder. The Washington Post recently reported that officials at the Center for Disease Control were ordered not to use words like “science-based,” apparently now regarded as disablingly left-leaning. But further reporting in the New York Times appears to show that the order came not from White House flunkies but from officials worried that Congress would reject funding proposals marred by the offensive terms. One of our two national political parties — and its supporters — now regards “science” as a fighting word. Where is our Robert Musil, our pitiless satirist and moralist, when we need him (or her)?
Never mind that the entirety of the CDC forbidden words story was completely debunked before this was written, I seem to remember when jihadi attacks had to me referred to as ‘man made disasters’.
have fun while we all observe:
“The US Has Reached The Last Stage Before Collapse”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-25/us-has-reached-last-stage-collapse
@ eaglesoars:
This is just more reaction to the tax bill passing.
The more elitist and philosophical of the NeverTrumpers have just gotten finished parsing their work and getting it to print.
Just got out of my test for the new project. Passing grade was 80, I got 96.
@ right_wing2:
Excellent.
Never a doubt.
Glad that Christmas thing is over.
Now I have to get through all the “Happy New Year” shit then life can go back to normal again.
Facebook is a strange place. Because I am friends with that Bonk person it keeps suggesting I should be friends with his friends.
OK so I clicked on the suggestion.
🙂
@ Possum:
oh
crap
Yep, now you are another person that found out Possum is really a 60 year old transvestite cat lady with a deep voice.
🙁
Possum wrote:
It came as quite a shock to Calo 🙂
@ Possum:
Ah, that’s who you are….I have weirder friends…
PaladinPhil wrote:
I don’t
LOL… I am not a transsexual anything. Just trying to control the cat population here as nobody else seems to give a shit.
No point neutering males. It only takes one.
Managed to get a female out of circulation. Then fell in love with her.
My facebook is all cats.
@ eaglesoars:
I lived too interesting a life at one point. Ready for the “get off my lawn squad” now.
PaladinPhil wrote:
I went a bit further. I got rid of the lawn.
@ eaglesoars:
Seems a little drastic. Then again, I enjoy yelling at people so I need something to yell at them about. 🙂
@ Possum:
But one male can impregnate countless females.
eaglesoars wrote:
The global rule to keep one safe:- …. is to never sleep with someone crazier than you. Never share a fox-hole with anyone braver than you, and never but never befriend anyone who has a list of rules that govern love or bravery !
🙂
@ Aussie Infidel:
When in bear country, never go with someone who runs faster than you
lobo91 wrote:
ROTFLMAO… Nope… Rule in bear country, know who you are with, cause they don’t have to out run the bear, they just have to out run you, and they don’t have to be faster than you if they are willing to ensure you are slower when it counts.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
those were the days……….
The thing about getting older is not that you get sane. It’s than you get just too damn tired for that crap
eaglesoars wrote:
Speak for yourself. As I get older, it becomes painfully apparent that, everyone is crazier than I am. Now I am trying to figure out if they always were, or this is a recent development.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/12/nfl-cancels-final-sunday-night-football-game/
@ Gateway Pundit
NFL cancels Sunday Night Game (time slot).
Do you believe their reason?
wtf did I just hear? Marie Harf saying the reason ISIS is losing ground is because Trump has allowed more bombs to be dropped? So the Obama WH was counting ordnance?
I swear my teeth hurt
eaglesoars wrote:
HEH!
Ain’t that so !
The wisdom of the ages!
🙂
eaglesoars wrote:
Hard has totally lost contact with reality ….
if she ever had any….. ever
🙂
Planet Zog calling Marie… come in Marie ….. Are you there?
🙂
Harf = Hard!
grrrrr I think I’ll take auto-correction out a shoot it!
🙂
@ eaglesoars:
oh, of course there was the “BUT…” caveat.
BUT…they’re just going someplace else, blah blah blah.
yeah, about 20 of ’em.
This all boils down to the “we can’t kill our way out of this” bs that passes for strategy.
Nobody ever asks how the SOBS being killed feel about it, I’ve noticed. I haven’t heard about some jihadi who just took one to the gut saying ‘I win’ with his last gurgle.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
try ‘Barf’ and see if that gets auto-corrected. It’s what we call her anyway
oh man. Karma is a bitch on 4 legs.
The woman who lost her 1st class seat to Sheila I’m A Queen is hard core and isn’t about to be intimidated by a word like ‘racist’
The woman Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee accused of racism is a celebrated photojournalist who helped document human-rights abuses in war-torn Guatemala during the 1980s.
Jean-Marie Simon, whose first-class seat on a United Airlines flight was given to Ms. Jackson Lee, Texas Democrat, lived and worked in Guatemala during the turbulent decade that saw the military seize control of the government in a coup. Hundreds of thousands of Guatemalans were killed or “disappeared” during the conflict.
Now a teacher, Ms. Simon, 63, is the author of “Guatemala: Eternal Spring Eternal Tyranny.” A 2012 blog post on Amnesty International saidMs. Simon donated 1,000 copies of her book to schools and universities in Guatemala “to keep the truth of what happened alive.”
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/dec/27/woman-accused-racism-dem-rep-human-rights-activist/
@ eaglesoars:
She’ll need one of the staffers she routinely insults to write a statement in words that she can pronounce…
It’s time we started taking people out and shooting them at noon at Lafayette Park.
The security clearances for the Awans were forged. And it looks like the 3rd party company that was used for background checks, etc., never actually did the work
FBI insiders used the word “forged” to describe the process of what happened to the Awan files. Federal law enforcement sources with knowledge of the case divulged:
Either someone with clout in Congress, or higher, made sure the Awans received their security clearances despite glaring problems or the investigators pushed their files through for approval as part of a systemic breakdown.
Many assertions in the Awan-linked applications and files could not be verified by subsequent FBI vetting as part of the criminal case now pending against Imran and Hina. The files are problematic, FBI sources said.
https://truepundit.com/fbi-awans-security-clearances-forged-granted-access-to-congressional-intel-despite-falsified-vetting/
@ eaglesoars:
Mueller better hurry, LOL.
Ok, pay attention.
———–
Two tech entrepreneurs, including a man who invested in the film studio that made the “Twilight” movies, were convicted of fraud on Tuesday in New York.
A federal jury convicted Kaleil Isaza Tuzman, 45, and Omar Amanat, 44, of all charges after a six-week trial.
The convictions stemmed from the men’s role in the technology startup Kit Digital.
http://www.wnem.com/story/37146277/two-investors-including-twilight-backer-convicted-of-fraud
——————–
in 2008 FINRA (financial regulator) permanently banned Amanant from associating with any FINRA firm because he failed to disclose prior SEC judgements
https://brokercheck.finra.org/individual/summary/2710334
—————————-
Omar’s brother, Irfan, is being charged separately
Omar and Irfan are Huma Abedin’s cousins
https://twitter.com/chiIIum/status/946142222529024001
CW, anybody…what IS this apoplexy over carried interest? As I understand it – and I will be corrected if needed, I trust – a partner who has NOT invested in a fund that realizes a profit can be compensated with some of those profits as part of his/her income. I also understand that the fund is owned by the company the partner works for and is not a fund managed for clients.
Is that right? So, why is everybody acting like there’s some sort of moral outrage? What’s the difference in the taxable rates?
I’m confused.
@ eaglesoars:
Hmm, those don’t sound like Irish or German names.
eaglesoars wrote:
I’ll take what’s behind door #1. Investigators do not push files through when there is a glaring problem. What happens is that the clearance application goes to the bottom of the stack after a request for more information is sent to the requesting organization.
@ AZfederalist:
Okay, reading the story, apparently this does happen in D.C. What I described is what happens for the rest of us who don’t have the advantage of being above the law.
@ AZfederalist:
They did at USIS. That’s why they went out of business:
I actually applied for a job with them once. Glad I didn’t get it.
@ AZfederalist:
USIS was the biggest contractor doing clearance investigations for the government.
They were shut down following some spectacular failures, like the Navy Yard shooter.
Keep this in mind next time the Dems start whining about “universal background checks” for gun sales…
lobo91 wrote:
THIS!!!
dayum………..
@ eaglesoars:
I’ve been talking about how shady USIS was for years
I’m beyond weary of this crap
Joy Villa: I reported Corey Lewandowski to the police for slapping my ass
Women need to learn how to throw a punch and then do it. Leave the cops out of it.
Doom.
My aunt got a google home for Xmas & she already has “Alexa”. This morning we were messing around with the google home and asked, “ok google what do you think of Alexa?” and it answered “I like her blue light” and from across the room Alexa turned on and said “thanks”. im scared
https://twitter.com/realTanyaTay/status/946187608438333441
2017 was a year of legal resistance. With the tireless efforts of the talented attorneys on my staff, my office has now taken over 100 legal & administrative actions to protect the people of NY from attacks by the Trump administration.
Eric Schneiderman, AG NY. Note the clue word ‘resistance’.
https://twitter.com/AGSchneiderman/status/946052839830425601
He wants to be appointed to SCOTUS by Kamala Harris.
eaglesoars wrote:
So she wasn’t just satisfied with “Big Brother” in the house, needed “Big Sister” as well. I guess if one doesn’t catch your thought-crime, the other one will.
Worth reading:
@ lobo91:
Unless they can convict Hillary herself, it’s a “Mook” point.
@ AZfederalist:
Google Home will set off the security alarm when an Amazon package arrives.
lobo91 wrote:
Was it against the law? Donna Brazille certainly thought so and she talked about it quite a bit in her book. As a matter of fact, one way to read her book is as a get-ahead-of-the-law “I’m innocent” manifesto.
Sheryl Atkkinssen recently brought attention to the tens of millions Tom Steyer has spent/been spending.
Has anyone else noticed anything about all this?
All that money was for naught. It may have bought some votes, but not nearly enough.
I wonder now, with the media outlets far less concentrated than they used to be, if money has lost the impact it once had because there are just too many targets to focus on.
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
I have a dog to do the same thing. And all she does is raid the garbage.
@ eaglesoars:
It was against the law, but only FEC violations.
The campaign and/or DNC could be fined, but that’s it. No criminal penalties that I’m aware of (unless some enterprising prosecutor could come up with racketeering charges or something).
lobo91 wrote:
It’s the Clintons fer heaven’s sake. How hard would you have to look?
@ eaglesoars:
Well, the hard part would be resisting the urge to commit suicide under suspicious circumstances…
@ lobo91:
there is that….
bedtime, nite
http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/25/what-does-it-mean-to-be-republican-and-black-in-the-age-of-trump-black-conservatives-opened-up-about-it/
https://twitter.com/OscarWildeGrey/status/946187022955307008
https://twitter.com/OscarWildeGrey/status/946187449130139648
eaglesoars wrote:
Easier said than done going on the pattycake punch throwing that I see at the gym by BOTH guys and gals but especially gals. Then there is one gym lady who actually uses her hips and shoulder to deliver. She regularly terrorises the heavy bag. There is no reason why a woman can’t learn how to deliver a serious strike and make it count. You only need one serious punch and that’s enough to allow you to leave the scene. Of most of the faux- asian styles that promise much but are all flash and show, the Israelis provide a basic effective training system on how to deliver a punch and where to deliver it. It’s the WHERE that allows a punch to be effective when one is fighting to injure and not as some sort of sport counting system of delivered blows. Remember ladies that you only need ONE full on strike delivered with determination , aggression and malice that will drop 90% of males and allow you to walk away quickly. Most makes just don’t imagine what is possible and are therefore totally open to a targeted strike. Begin with eyes, throat and balls ladies and go from there!
🙂
@ Aussie Infidel:
Dad taught me. When I was 10. Because that little prick Rickie Frazier kept throwing my skirt over my head during recess. So I knocked his teeth out (yes, I did) like he taught me and promptly got thrown out of school. Until my father stormed in and demanded to know who the hell was going to protect them from HIM when they couldn’t protect a little girl from a bully.
And we never saw hide nor hair of that little prick Rickie again.
I’ve trained some since then and of course the height and weight differences/advantages are much different than they were when we were 10. A punch to the face against someone w/8 inches on me would be problematic. Not to mention, I’m trying to break HIS bones, not my knuckles.
Mark taught me some other handy stuff a small woman can use, tho.
None of this matters without the father. I listen to women today and realize their dads were very different from mine, who expected that I would get in some bad spots and tried to prepare me for them. Cops don’t enter the picture until clean up.
Hmmm. Maybe something is going on in Iran? Another revolt perhaps?
People chant: “Akhoonds [Mullahs/ Shia clerics] be ashamed, and leave Iran”. Today when a Mullah popped up among crowd of people protesting financial corruptions of Islamic regime authorities in Mashhad, 2nd largest city of Iran
interesting video there…
https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/946513796461420545
OK…. Just heard from coldwarrior. He took the Princesses to Santa’s workshop (aka his parents house) where he had the delightful chore of shoveling around 48 metric tons of glorious lovely Global warming. The temp is a very balmy -5 degrees.
He says Merry Christmas
@ doriangrey:
Yesterday I walked Willow thinking it was 34. When I realized after 20 minutes that my fingers were actually getting frostbitten I re-checked when I got back home. It was 19.
Frostbite hurts
It is now 16.
@ lobo91:
have you noticed there hasn’t been much activity since Charlottesville? Or is it just me and I’m somehow not registering it?
Altho I did read there’s going to be another women’s march soon, somehwere, maybe here. If this weather holds, I’m expecting about 7 people. All of them Russian.
@ eaglesoars:
That’s about what it’s been when I leave for work lately. Anywhere from 14-20
eaglesoars wrote:
It looks like this has been simmering for awhile. This is from 2 wks ago
A major commander of Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) announced that special patrols of IRGC’s Basij forces have been dispatched to enhance the security across the country.
The Basij. I remember those bastards.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/perspective/features/2017/12/13/Is-Iran-s-IRGC-launching-special-patrols-to-fend-off-rebellion-.html
@ doriangrey:
Pretty sure if his folks lived just a little further north he would have been shoveling closer to 240 metric tons.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/erie-pennsylvania-pummeled-record-5-feet-snow-164237215.html
They said 10 miles south of the city limits they barely got a third of that. Lake-effect is a bitch.
@ eaglesoars:
@ lobo91:
It’s 8 here. Better than the 3 this morning.
lobo91 wrote:
I know it gets cold there at night but…sheesh. tomorrow Willow is going to have to wear her adorable little coat and she’s going to hate my guts.
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
Hubby’s family is suffering. Oswego/Fairhaven NY, Lake Ontario. It snows there in MAY sometimes. Not fun when you have to be up with the sun shoving cows. I think it’s around 5 there right now and the SIL says there’s some lake wind.
When I was younger – back before God started making dirt – I thought I might want to live off the grid, in the woods somewhere where there aren’t many people. Alaska sounded good.
There are moments I wish I’d done it. Then I watch Life Below Zero.
Over. It.
@ eaglesoars:
Our Bailey is old, but still displaying her penchant for drama.
She’ll be in the snow for her poop walk for a very short time and suddenly start lifting her paws and limping like she’s been shot, complete with sad looks, but when something happens to distract her in the middle of this she all of a sudden gains the ability to bark and run furiously with none of the symptoms previously displayed.
I think this started happening when my wife felt sorry and started carrying her across the street…
@ Aussie Infidel:
I should also mention, that one has to practice being in a fight. So many individuals will take a “self defense” course, and then never brush up on those skills. Then there is this attitude that certain martial arts classes are Exercise Class, where one is going to be in Adult Gym.
ok, then.
From kindergartens to high schools, from prisons to anyone who’s simply lost their ID, China is conducting the world’s most aggressive campaign to collect DNA from its population – with or without permission, in what it is calling a “high-tech security blanket” used to better monitor its 1.4 billion citizens, the WSJ reports
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-28/china-quietly-builds-worlds-largest-dna-database
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
A few days ago I read that dogs have the intelligence of a human 2 yr old.
Try 5
The other nite we were eating dinner in the family room to watch TV. I was at the coffee table. Willow went to the door to ask to go out on the deck, so I got up and opened it. No Willow. She’d ripped a 180 and nailed my plate.
Also, dogs lie. And no, they don’t care.
@ eaglesoars:
Americans are dumb enough to pay people to take theirs…
lobo91 wrote:
*raises hand*
this is going to be so much fun…………
Trump campaign holding contest for the biggest fake news of the year
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-campaign-holding-contest-for-the-biggest-fake-news-of-the-year/article/2644506
I shall bid you goodnite with this moving testament to the siren call of western civilization
Canadian citizenship applications surge after government makes them accessible in condom dispensers
@ eaglesoars:
Meanwhile, I’m not allowed to go to Canada (to spend money) because 20 year old DUIs. (Not even driving the car entering.)
Only country in the world I’m currently denied entry into, I do believe.
@ eaglesoars:
“Rigged for YOUR pleasure”