J.P. Morgan Boss Jamie Dimon says there will be 4% growth this year, his chief economist says 2-2.5%.
3% is key. Anything more is gravy.
Enjoy this open.
2018 GDP Bet
by coldwarrior ( 81 Comments › )Filed under Economy, Open thread at January 9th, 2018 - 8:10 pm
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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
new thread
coldwarrior wrote:
wrong thread
LOL. Trump has EVERYONE’S head spinning.
Tucker thinks he’s sold out.
Rush thinks he’s playing the game.
Haberman doubles down on “He’s an idiot, see? He doesn’t know that any form of ‘Comprehensive Immigration Reform’ HAS TO include blanket amnesty, because we said so.”
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
He smashed the ball squarely in Congress’ court.
“I’m sure all you wonderful, intelligent people can come up with something great.” (paraphrasing)
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
Tucker must not have heard the whole thing. I did, and Brit Hume just came on and filled him in. McCarthy said to Trump a ‘clean’ DACA bill means JUST DACA and Trump said oh, no no no, we have to have a wall. And he’s tweeted just that since then.
None of these people, including, especially, Haberman, seem to understand what Trump just did letting the cameras in there.
If Ann Coulter doesn’t stop screeching I don’t know whose brains I’m going to blow out, hers or mine.
As for Feinstein, I’m really curious as to why she released Glenn Simpson’s testimony. Trump’s lawyer has just filed a lawsuit against Fusion GPS and Buzzfeed for defamation. Discovery should be fascinating.
eaglesoars wrote:
As I made very clear today, our country needs the security of the Wall on the Southern Border, which must be part of any DACA approval.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/950884128379035650
4:16 pm today
@ eaglesoars:
I think Trump’s going to get everything, including an end to chain migration, with the exception of deportation of non-criminal “Dreamers.”
I think that’s a giant win, but sadly there are many on our side who are having a hard time accepting that.
I also think that DREAMers will be given serious stipulations, and won’t become citizens for some time.
I keep trying to explain to people the optics of shipping busloads of children born here to third-world hellholes they’ve never been to, but I’m having trouble getting through…
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
Part of the problem is that you’re buying into the left’s narrative.
Most of them aren’t “children” at all.
lobo91 wrote:
doesn’t matter, that will be the pictures shown.
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
what Ive been told — 3rd hand – is that the deal will be Trump gets the wall with a 2-yr delay on doing anything about DACA. The question is – will there be a gov’t shutdown? 2 wks ago, it could have made Trump look bad. After that brilliant publicity ploy today, I don’t think so. Not to mention – d id you see any sign of early onset dementia? Wait till Joe and Mika have to deal with this performance. HA!
@ lobo91:
It doesn’t matter what I think. What matters is what they’ll show on TV.
I know that many are probably approaching 40 by now. That won’t be where the cameras will be focused.
I think it’s a good deal if chain migration is ended, all criminal illegals are deported, a wall is built, the visa lottery program is ended, and moving forward immigration is based on realistic need.
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
nope. the stories will be about the choice they have to make about leaving their anchor-baby children behind, etc.
Baby Jesus is going to come up a lot and he’ll always be crying.
US oil output to hit record over 11M bpd by end of 2019, EIA
http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2018/01/09/us-oil-output-to-hit-record-over-11m-bpd-by-end-2019-eia.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true
tsk tsk tsk
crap
Magnitude 7.6 quake strikes off Central America -USGS
tsunami warning for Puerto Rico (which would include the Virgin Islands I would think)
http://news.trust.org/item/20180110031721-6ecta
eaglesoars wrote:
See? See? All of you mocking climate change! … and look what happens when you mess with the climate!
/Some nameless moonbat
@ eaglesoars:
http://www.govsarahpalin.com/2018/01/07/psychiatrist-attacking-trump-now-backpedaling-story/
@ AZfederalist:
you know, just the other day I read that all the melting ice was making the sea floor sink, it weighs so much, I’ll bet that’s what caused the earthquake!
Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:
Yale needs to fire her ass.
Glenn Simpson testified that someone has already been killed because of the release of the dossier. I want to know who. I want ALL the docs declassified.
It’s bedtime. nite.
@ eaglesoars:
They’re caused by women who don’t wear bags on their heads.
http://www.govsarahpalin.com/2018/01/09/leaked-memo-democrats-just-admitted-weve-always-known-dreamers/
Meh… Close enough I guess. 3.7% growth is the optimal growth rate. Based on the “Rule of 72” and traditional cyclical expansion and contraction rates.
lobo91 wrote:
And the possible reason for THAT is – the entire intelligence community is about to be brought down if Sundance is right. Do not think others aren’t reading this stuff also, there is a reason Feinstein et. al., are worried about ‘getting stories straight’. Sundance has been posting on twitter, but at this point is afraid twitter will ban Last Refuge, so he’s putting it up now. If he’s right – THERE WAS NO FISA WARRANT.
https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/951008318646079488
back to the dentist today, gotta go
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/trump-fire-fury-book-sales-michael-wolff/
@ Chicago Sun Times
The Michael Wolff book is selling strong. Even Trump haters have to be aware that a lot of this has been debunked,
so I don’t get it.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/unstable-yale-psychiatrist-labeled-trump-unstable-recants-armchair-diagnosis/
@ Gateway Pundit
Yale quack psychiatrist walks it back and says that she did not call Trump a mental case.
What, you thought that just because she wanted to put him in constraints,, analyze him and frog
march him out of office she thinks that he is a mental case? Sheesh!
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
one of my favorite ‘fade aways’
@ eaglesoars:
i would love to see many federales lose their pensions and do time for what has occurred. will they? i’ll believe it when i see it.
I just stopped by to put in a plug for western civilization. Microwave died. I had a new one in the house in 45 minutes flat.
That is all.
FEINSTEIN says she’s sorry to Grassley for not giving him a headsup about the release of the Fusion GPS transcript. “I meant to tell him, and I didn’t have a chance to tell him, and that concerns me,” she told us. “I just got pressured, and I didn’t do it.”
“Pressured”. Two words. Tom. Steyer.
https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/951184876648239104
A Canadian poli sci/military historian by the name of Randal Hanssen just got very lucky. Ten years ago he published a book ” “Fire and Fury: The Allied Bombing of Germany, 1942-1945”. All of a sudden, it’s #3 on Amazon’s best seller list
I’m pretty sure Dumbfuckistan is getting its own zip code
https://nypost.com/2018/01/10/confused-readers-are-buying-the-wrong-fire-and-fury/
Man, Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow Coalition shakedown op has nuthin’ on DeBlasio.
New York City suing major oil companies over global warming
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/368304-new-york-city-suing-major-oil-companies-over-global-warming
@ eaglesoars:
America has a Progressive Mayor problem.
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
It’s not just progressive mayors we have too many of.
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/01/10/project-veritas-video-shows-twitter-would-give-trumps-private-messages-to-doj/
Haynes also claimed that the company has access to “every single person’s account, every single direct message, deleted direct messages, deleted tweets.” Haynes told Project Veritas’ journalist that he could tell, “exactly who logged in from where, [with] what username and password, when they changed their password.” It suggests Twitter employees can read users’ private messages, even after deleting them.
@ eaglesoars:
I’m not sure how you can sue someone over damages that haven’t occurred due to a theory that’s never been proven.
right_wing2 wrote:
DeBlasio tweet:
The Empire State Building is shining green tonight because it’s time to put our planet first. #DivestNY
The DivestNY bit is because he’s divesting NYC pension funds from energy companies. He should be brought up on charges of financial malfeasance.
From Sundance
Stop using the words “FISA Warrant” and start saying: “Was the DNC/Clinton campaign-funded dossier used to obtain Trump FISA “Search Query Authority”? There were no Title III “warrants” There were only FISA-702 “query approvals”, which gets conflated w/ term “Warrants”.
If I’m keeping this straight, FISA-702 query approval is not FBI, it’s NSA and that’s what clued in Mike Rogers.
The FBI used the NSA to do its dirty work
https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/951266482817851393
Fully expecting to get banned at Breitbart for calling Ann Coulter a vapid twat.
I think I capitalized as well.
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
I have to disagree with the vapid part. I think she’s a screeching harpy
South Korea’s president said Wednesday that President Trump “deserves big credit” for renewed talks between South and North Korea, and that Mr. Trump has offered to negotiate personally with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.
“It could be a resulting work of the U.S.-led sanctions and pressure,” President Moon Jae-in told reporters. “I think President Trump deserves big credit for bringing about the inter-Korean talks.”
Trump’s bigger and working button…
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/8/university-chicago-tell-barack-obama-move-library/
More than 100 members of the University of Chicago faculty are asking the Obama Foundation to move the proposed library honoring the 44th president to a new location because the plan as currently constituted is “socially regressive.”
@ Deplorable Martian Overlord:
Let me guess, it doesn’t provide enough free crap.
right_wing2 wrote:
I guess the college is mad because it will cause parking and traffic issues. Plus they say it will costs hundreds of millions in local infrastructure improvements and will not result in any additional revenue generation. Basically making it a black hole of money with no real gain, much like his presidency.
Just been told by staff at Subway that the meat is killed in the traditional Islamic way. How on earth do you strap a backpack to a chicken?
morning
Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:
It will also use up acres and acres of parkland. Also, my understanding is that the ‘library’ will have no documents. Which is probably ok, since much of his constituency is not big on reading. Maybe if they used graffiti….
https://twitter.com/OscarWildeGrey/status/951465622520586241
Trump at 4:30 this morning
“House votes on controversial FISA ACT today.” This is the act that may have been used, with the help of the discredited and phony Dossier, to so badly surveil and abuse the Trump Campaign by the previous administration and others?
And now, apparently, this has prompted Pelosi to go whining to Paul Ryan to cancel/postpone the vote.
If Trump is so dumb, how come the other side keeps losing?
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/ouch-jim-acosta-gets-cocky-white-house-presser-sarah-huckabee-sanders-slaps-video/
@ Gateway Pundit
Jim Acosta gets all snarky and cocky at WH presser. Sarah Huckabee Sanders hands his astonishing him,
with a smile
@ RIX:
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
I’m dead.
Tomorrow’s controversy of the day:
@ lobo91:
and we’re all laughing…Mia Love, who I really like, has issued a letter demanding an apology. Instead she should have written a letter saying, yeah, it’s a shithole, why do you think I’m here?
even shrieking harpies…
Okay, yes — Trump shouldn’t call them “shithole countries.” A little respect is in order. They are shithole nations.
https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/951594462215659520
Now I’m laughing even harder
“Lady Liberty, our founding fathers, and generations of right-thinking Americans are all weeping tonight over the atrocious comments attributed to Donald Trump, who continues to demonstrate daily that he is a deeply flawed person,” Brennan tweeted.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/368629-ex-cia-chief-lady-liberty-weeping-over-trumps-atrocious-comments
I have never been to Africa, but I have been to Haiti. Haiti is a shit hole.
Google “Alabama is a shithole”
106k results in 0.37 secs
my work here is done
Laura Ingraham is pitching a fit about what she says is the DACA deal. Cotton and Grassley say there is no deal. The press release is from Cotton’s office but they’re getting overwhelmed on the site. You can read it here.
There’s no deal. There is what Jeff Flake says is the deal but he’s a liar
https://twitter.com/DaveNYviii/status/951650386921885696
This is going to be one of the critical docs. From Judicial Watch, bookmark it, print it, whatever.
All those 702s that got Mike Rogers curiosity were from the FBI. FBI had hired subcontractors, Fusion, allowing them access to raw intel, and forwarding their requests for 702 unmasking queries.
Here’s the doc, start bottom page 83.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Top-Secret-FISA-Court-Order.pdf
Here’s a very quick twitter discussion/outline to use as an intro
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/951660087944400896
This isn’t about covering up for Clinton. This is about covering up for Obama
I have to turn in. quick timeline recap. After Rogers figured out what was going on, he did 2 things: He stopped those 702 requests and he informed Trump, which prompted Trump to move his operation out of Trump Tower.
That cut Fusion off, and miracle of miracle, they get hired by Hillary! Enter the ‘dossier’.
this is going to take years to come out. The only way to get to the bottom publicly is to slowly undermine the credibility of Obama until the halo is gone
Ok, 75F change on temp in 3 days. Uhuh.
@ eaglesoars:
Little reality check, if you would…
I think people should fry.
Lots of people.
But maybe I spend(t) too much time on “other” sites.
Lately
I’ll keep my powder dry, just in case.
/ Gonna be an interesting (year?)…
@ coldwarrior:
Global Warmening. Pay moar taxes, we can fix…
@ eaglesoars:
“Ssshhh, be vewy, vewy, quiet, I’m hunting wabbits.*”
* neocons, statists, leftists,… you get the picture.
@ eaglesoars:
100% agree with your post, BTW.
(Offered in case you missed my snark.
Which you didn’t.)
eaglesoars wrote:
^^^ I got it.
@ Daffy Duck:
Re-read your post, eaglesoars, and concur that “years” is probably correct for final resolution of all this.
But, I want some small (Constitutional) “sacrifices” this year.
Treason, Sedition, Conspiracy, RICO.
“Hang ’em, High”
Daffy Duck wrote:
nobody’s getting nuthin’ till after the midterms.
I was following up on something else before I turned it and realized I’d missed this today. If it gets any publicity – big if – it will contribute to the scouring of Obama.
Sessions Sets up Hezbollah Investigation Team
Sessions said the Justice Department will assemble leading investigators and prosecutors for the Hezbollah Financing and Narcoterrorism Team to ensure all investigations under the DEA programme, called Project Cassandra, will be completed.
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/sessions-hezbollah-investigation-team/
Daffy, it’s going to be impossible to find Obama’s fingerprints on any of this I think, at least on any of the stuff we know about now. We’ll see Loretta Lynch’s fer shure (I think we can guess what that tarmac mtg with Billy was all about now), but Obama?
This is probably nothing but my Smithsonian attic brain keeps kicking it up to the front. Years ago the Stars and Stripes ran a story about the Podesta Group buying a house somewhere – I think it was Dubai – that everyone assumed was going to be for the Obamas. There’s a money trail somewhere whether the house story is a ‘thing’ or not. The Obama’s have way too much money for just a book deal or 2. And these complaints about his library – none of these details are new. Why is the bitching starting now?
I have to go to bed. or else
oh yeah. If all those shithole countries aren’t really shitholes and are really very nice and we shouldn’t be so arrogant about how great we are because those countries are just as great – then I guess we can send all those people back to where they came from because where they came from are really great countries too. Even if the State Dept DID issue a travel warning about Haiti.
Yesterday
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/951681872974827521
and ain’t nobody talking about Michael Wolff’s book no more.
@ eaglesoars:
Yeah, Obama. He was probably “just following orders.” There is an Eichmann in this fustercluck, for sure. Guess I’ll wait for him/(her) to squeal (like I have a choice…).
eaglesoars wrote:
Logic Bomb!
Said it before, say it now, will say it again:
You are a National Treasure.
Brilliant.
@ Daffy Duck:
I think “Eichmann” is incorrect in this reference. (Who am I thinking ?)
But, he hung, so good enough.
@ coldwarrior:
Today it’s sitting at 10 degrees Celsius. Tomorrow it’s dropping possibly to -20 Celsius.
State Sen. Kwame Raoul, D-Chicago, who born in Chicago to Haitian immigrants, said Trump’s comments show his “ignorance of the contributions Haitians have made to this country, as well as other immigrant nations
@ Chicago Sun Times
Yeah Haiti is great! The whole place is a slum from what I observed. This dude said that he would no accept Trumps apology. And I will not accept my Heisman Trophy. that is just as likely as this chump getting an apology.
https://twitter.com/OscarWildeGrey/status/951811481376514048
The more information about the abuses of the Obama Administration during the election year and the criminal activity of the Clintons and the Clinton campaign makes me wonder if the real polling leading up to the election was showing that indeed Trump could win those battleground states, that he was indeed polling better than the figures released to the press, and the whole “Hillary has a 99% certainty to win” headlines were in some ways designed to depress the Trump vote as much as they could. “Yeah, you like him, but believe us, he’s not going to win so if it’s not nice outside, stay home and watch Dr. Phil instead.”
Except, you know, we DIDN’T.
doriangrey wrote:
!!!!!!!
you really should have included him in that so he’ll see it.
Daffy Duck wrote:
very kind, but that honor belongs to the people doing all this research w/o remuneration or acknowledgement. Last Refuge, Katica,chillum are just a few of the online warriors. The people we do know doing this as a profession are few and far between, Sara Carter, John Solomon. Pulitzers aren’t enough for these people.
@ RIX:
Dear Kwame: Since you want to expound on the virtues of the Haitians currently living in the U.S., please Google “Emmanuel Constant” – a dirtbag that fled Haiti and was allowed in the U.S. He tortured and raped women in Haiti under government sanction, was let in by Bill Clinton and was only jailed AFTER he committed a mortgage fraud scam and thus we were able to file a civil lawsuit against him.
https://ccrjustice.org/home/what-we-do/our-cases/doe-v-constant
I worked on this case. I still think that in a 40-year career, it was my finest hour.
@ eaglesoars:
I completely agree – NATIONAL TREASURE.
@ Deplorable Barbarian:
threadkiller! 😉
three NEW Trump attacks today. The first is small and a bit under the radar concerning Eric Trump, purporting to show a fundraiser for his charity used all the money paying costs for the fundraiser – to a Trump property. It’s on twitter someplace, just file it away in your head. The 2nd attack is a new book called “It’s even worse than you think” by someone named Cay. He writes that Trump was estranged from his children until they landed on Daddy’s payroll and that if you’re in town to conduct gov’t business it’s widely understood you have to stay at the Trump Hotel (not true, btw, Hubby just participated in a ‘thing’ people had to come into town for, and nobody stayed there and nobody cared). The third is the one getting the screaming headlines.
Trump’s lawyer funneled $130,000 to ex-porn star just before 2016 election to buy her silence on claims she had sexual encounter with now president
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5264327/Trumps-lawyer-paid-ex-porn-star-130-000-2016.html
She denies it totally, no minced words
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/951948253066616832
that’s all I got, I’ve been busy. Except to not that the timing of Ecuador granting Assange citizenship might be of interest. The CIA wants him dead. Might be a bit more difficult to accomplish now.
R
@ eaglesoars:
The porn star allegation floated around last year, was debunked, but hey, let’s revive it – after all, nothing ELSE is working.
As to the kids, I seriously doubt any of those allegations. I do love how these sleazeball writers hide behind the Sullivan decision thinking it shields them from libel.
And I imagine Trump DONATED the golf course use to Eric’s charity. But the expenses may have involved security, etc. and other services that are not covered by the Trump largesse. Of course, it pales in comparison to the malfeasance vis-a-vis the BILLIONS the Clintons ripped off from Haiti. That the MSM seems to care very little about.
Just a thought, never let Durbin anywhere near the White House, he’s a rat. I knew that it was him that was
him before it was reported. Durbin is also bashing Trump for using the term “chain migration” To Durbin this
now suggests African slaves in chains. Seriously?
My senators name is Richard, but he will always be a Dick to me.