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  • PA-18 Pigs Just Flew

    by coldwarrior ( 128 Comments › )
    Filed under Elections 2018, Open thread at March 13th, 2018 - 12:53 am

    Today is the PA-18 election for Congress for a seat vacated by a long time GOP rep Tim Murphy who got caught up in #MeToo…Anyway, the polling data is all over the place and some of it really creative like the Monmouth Poll that uses a Surge Model with GOP -4% of the Dems 50% and 4% Neither.. I have a MS in Applied Statistics and I have never heard of this kind of model. I’m not even sure that this sample is legitimate, does it reflect the reality on the ground? We’ll see today.

    And, like I said, Pigs Flew Today. They did. The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette endorsed Rick Saccone…No, for real, the Party Organ for the Democrats in Pittsburgh endorsed the GOP candidate! I’m not sure what to say about this. I am, frankly, shocked by this and had to make sure that I wasn’t having a some sort of flashback that was causing me to hallucinate.

     

    Should be an interesting night after the polls close.

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    1. Buckeye Abroad
      1 | March 13, 2018 5:30 am

      “I’m not sure what to say about this.”

      I would venture a guess that the internal polls for democrats in fly-over country look pretty damn bleak. It isn’t like the dems have a deep bench and a full war chest these days.


    2. eaglesoars
      3 | March 13, 2018 8:28 am

      CW, the Pgh Post Gasette editorial won’t load for me. Can you summarize what their rationale is? Also, what are the issues in the campaign there (I’m assuming the economy but I don’t know if ‘Trump hate’ is big there)


    3. eaglesoars
      4 | March 13, 2018 8:29 am

      Ah, it finally loaded. Looks like somebody came up for air
      ———-
      There is another consideration. If Mr. Lamb, 33, wins, it could well be the start of a Democratic wave. The prospect of a Democratic House may please partisans, but it might be bad for the country.

      The Democrats in the House have only one agenda item at the moment, and it isn’t health care or jobs. It is impeachment. Regardless of whether one likes this president or his policies, one must ask what the consequence for the country will be if we dive into so great a distraction.


    4. eaglesoars
      5 | March 13, 2018 8:54 am

      Tillerson has been fired, Mike Pompeo is replacing him, a woman whose name I don’t recognize taking over CIA


    5. eaglesoars
      6 | March 13, 2018 8:55 am

      Gina Haskell, 32 yr service employee of CIA


    6. 7 | March 13, 2018 9:25 am

      Cough cough… Pigs been flyin a long time cw… Hell, they even got a Bear in the Air…

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd5ZLJWQmss


    7. 8 | March 13, 2018 9:30 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      The new CIA director, according to Snowden, was behind the ‘torture’ and its coverup.


    8. eaglesoars
      9 | March 13, 2018 9:37 am

      @ right_wing2:

      I like her already


    9. 10 | March 13, 2018 9:40 am

      I hope Pompeo starts clearing out all the Obama holdovers at State.


    10. eaglesoars
      11 | March 13, 2018 9:50 am

      @ right_wing2:

      I saw your posts from last nite after I logged out. Good luck in the job search.


    11. 12 | March 13, 2018 9:55 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      Thanks. Another call center isn’t really my dream job, but the pay’s a hell of a lot better, and would make the budgeting a lot less stress on the better half.


    12. eaglesoars
      13 | March 13, 2018 10:00 am

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      The new CIA director, according to Snowden, was behind the ‘torture’ and its coverup.

      She ran “Cat’s Eye” black site in Thailand. The girl does her own wet work


    13. 14 | March 13, 2018 10:17 am

      The scuttlebutt on the social media platforms is that Tillerson was out for calling out Putin yesterday as the mastermind behind the UK poisoning. Sarah Sanders says Trump asked for his notice back on Friday.

      Personally, I think Trump was pissed that Tillerson didn’t clean the damn house over at Foggy Bottom. I look to Pompeo to be shopping for brooms at Home Depot in the near future.

      So the new girl does wet work? Hey, I’m down – Helen Mirren’s “Victoria” was my favorite character in the “Red” series. Old girl with a gun. Love it.


    14. eaglesoars
      15 | March 13, 2018 10:17 am

      Watch the EU go absolutely bat guano crazy. Awhile ago something called the European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights asked Germany to issue an international arrest warrant for Haskell because she had Zubadiyah waterboarded.

      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


    15. eaglesoars
      16 | March 13, 2018 10:19 am

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      I think the impetus was North Korea. Tillerson doesn’t have the skill set to run that show. He’s a ruthless BUSINESSMAN. We need subtle assassins.

      time to run the morning chores. later


    16. 17 | March 13, 2018 10:42 am

      OUCH… This is what you call a smack-down…

      https://twitter.com/OscarWildeGrey/status/973567988400967681


    17. 18 | March 13, 2018 10:49 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      Of course, the last time I checked, the American people APPROVED of enhanced interrogation and waterboarding, so good luck with that, Dems.


    18. coldwarrior
      19 | March 13, 2018 3:53 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      the muzz should be happy that i wasnt running the interrogation program.


    19. Aussie Infidel
      20 | March 13, 2018 4:42 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      the muzz should be happy that i wasnt running the interrogation program.

      Or me and I actually know a thing or two about the job !

      🙂


    20. 21 | March 13, 2018 5:11 pm

      Looks like there’s another entry in the Why Was Tillerson Fired Derby:

      https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/03/13/good-riddance-is-this-why-rex-tillerson-was-fired/

      Free Beacon reports Tillerson was engaging in a rogue bid to SAVE the Iran Deal.

      I said “good riddance” when I first read the news this morning. If this is true I say “be grateful Trump didn’t personally plant his boot in your ass out the door.”

      Oh, and a smarmy little snake at State decided to challenge White House reports on HOW Tillerson was notified. He’s also packing up his desk today. With the added bonus that I have no doubt Pompeo will make strong efforts to clean out Foggy Bottom – here’s a thought. If the emails and documents still exist on Benghazi, he’s now going to have access to them.


    21. eaglesoars
      22 | March 13, 2018 5:17 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      that doesn’t sound rogue. It DOES sound stupid


    22. Aussie Infidel
      23 | March 13, 2018 5:22 pm

      https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-trump-nominates-new-pro-life-secretary-of-state
      Not that this is particularly relevant.

      But Tillerson’s deputy Goldstein was also fired last week in a clearing of the decks exercise at State and Pompeo is the broom that has been given the job of ridding the Department of State of not only Obama holdovers but 70+ years of highly partisan leftist politic. Pompeo has his work cut out for him as State attempts to maintain the status quo in Korea and with Russia and especially in the Middle East namely Iran. Trump is a wrecker by nature where ‘constructive destruction’ is a mythology to enable great change over short periods. Read the Art of the Deal!


    23. eaglesoars
      24 | March 13, 2018 5:39 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      first in his class at West Point.


    24. Aussie Infidel
      25 | March 13, 2018 5:42 pm

      Spencer gives a good rundown on the implications for US and the Islamic/Muslim world flowing from the Pompeo switch:

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/trump-state-department-tillerson-out-pompeo-in

      The MSM will let us hear about Pompeo in full force once they have got themselves off the floor and assembled a attack narrative.

      Haspel is a sound operationally savvy member of the CIA. As an insider she will ‘know where the skeletons are buried’ and where the dead wood that needs cutting exists.

      Drain the Swamp !


    25. Aussie Infidel
      26 | March 13, 2018 5:44 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      first in his class at West Point.

      That he was. Obvious smart but also operationally skilled. The two don’t always translate well together but appear to mesh in Pompeo.


    26. eaglesoars
      27 | March 13, 2018 5:46 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      a sound operationally savvy member of the CIA

      The CIA has been discouraged from developing human intel. It is high-risk but that’s the job. She’s been in the trenches so maybe she can restore some balance.


    27. Aussie Infidel
      28 | March 13, 2018 5:48 pm

      This is just what the CIA needs at this time. A kick arse operationally hands-on operator from inside the agency. Being a ‘she’ will also threaten some of the PC dead wood inside the agency from attacking her personally. Expect some ‘leakage’ about professional misconduct regarding enhanced interrogation practices.


    28. Aussie Infidel
      29 | March 13, 2018 5:51 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      a sound operationally savvy member of the CIA

      The CIA has been discouraged from developing human intel. It is high-risk but that’s the job. She’s been in the trenches so maybe she can restore some balance.

      … and cut through the arse covering progressive careerism so prevalent within the CIA administration.

      Drain the swamp.

      Another radical appointment by Trump. As noted Reread. Art of the Deal


    29. Aussie Infidel
      30 | March 13, 2018 5:53 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      that doesn’t sound rogue. It DOES sound stupid

      Goldstein wasn’t being stupid. He was being loyal to his boss . Good riddance


    30. eaglesoars
      31 | March 13, 2018 6:12 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      that doesn’t sound rogue. It DOES sound stupid

      Goldstein wasn’t being stupid. He was being loyal to his boss . Good riddance

      I was referring to Tillerson’s take on the Iran deal. The good news about Goldstein is that this admin didn’t hesitate, they pulled the trigger on him as soon as he opened his trap. His loyalty is rewarded appropriately.

      As far as attacking Haskell, I doubt you’ve seen him but there’s a ‘former CIA agent’ by the name of Phillip Mudd that gets carted out to all the hate-Trump media. His contempt for Trump wafts thru the screen like week-old garbage in the summer heat. He couldn’t trash the N.K. announcement enough, talking about how stupid Trump is and how he’s being taken for a chump. I imagine he’ll be doing the rounds again talking about how un-American Haskell is for waterboarding people and how this makes Trump an accessory to war crimes or something. Keep an eye out for him, he’s very entertaining. Also, I don’t know what ‘former agent’ means in his case, he doesn’t seem like the kind of personality that could actually run agents. If they picked up the wrong fork, he’d probably burn them.


    31. eaglesoars
      32 | March 13, 2018 6:24 pm

      oops

      REVEALED: Obama Campaign Hired Fusion GPS To Investigate Romney

      http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/13/fusion-gps-romney-investigation/


    32. eaglesoars
      33 | March 13, 2018 6:32 pm

      I just caught the tail end of this as I sat down and didn’t have context to understand exactly what he was talking about. Trump is thinking about a new military branch – for space. Very cool. This should finish bankrupting Russia and give China a good, hard shove.

      ———-

      President Trump told a military crowd near San Diego on Tuesday that he believes the U.S. may need to create a new military branch for outer space, providing a boost to an idea that has so far struggled to gain momentum in Congress as well as the Pentagon.

      “My new national strategy for space recognizes that space is a war-fighting domain, just like the land, air, and sea. We may even have a space force, develop another one: Space Force.” Trump said in a speech at the Miramar Marine Corps Air Station

      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/trump-proposes-space-force-to-join-other-military-branches


    33. Deplorable Bumr50
      34 | March 13, 2018 6:37 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      I secretly hope that aliens land during Trump’s tenure, and he’s the “leader.”

      That’s how bad I hate the left.

      🙂


    34. eaglesoars
      35 | March 13, 2018 6:43 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      I secretly hope that aliens land during Trump’s tenure, and he’s the “leader.”

      That’s how bad I hate the left.

      The only circumstance under which I would support the ‘anchor baby’ law


    35. RIX
      36 | March 13, 2018 6:55 pm

      https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/03/13/are-you-fcking-kidding-me-united-will-need-a-miracle-to-recover-from-this-pr-disaster/
      @ Twitchy
      United Airlines strikes again. I guarantee that this will piss you off, guaranteed.


    36. eaglesoars
      37 | March 13, 2018 7:19 pm

      @ RIX:

      As horrible as that is, if an airline employee told you to stuff your child in the overhead would you do it? No. Rules for the flight should have been understood in advance. I would have left the plane with my dog if I were told to put her in the overhead. The responsibility for the dog belongs to the owner, which is why I won’t put my dogs on a plane, period.

      That being said, the attendant should be fired just on the basis of animal cruelty. Name and photo, complete doxing is warranted for the entire cabin crew. Charges should be filed for animal cruelty against the airline and crew. FOR FUCKING MILLIONS.


    37. 38 | March 13, 2018 7:26 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Two words: DROP and SHIPS!


    38. RIX
      39 | March 13, 2018 7:27 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      United makes mistake after mistake. Flying non-stop in May from Chicago to Honolulu we had a nine over layover
      in San Francisco for “mechanical” reasons. They could not have handled it worse with arrogance and constant lies.
      But at least they didn’t kill my dog. There would be hell to pay and I would probably go to jail.


    39. eaglesoars
      40 | March 13, 2018 7:29 pm

      This may prove to be interesting. He was only 53

      Prince Bandar bin Khalid Al Saud dead

      https://www.khaleejtimes.com/region/saudi-arabia/saudi-prince-bandar-bin-khalid-bin-abdulaziz-al-saud-passes-away


    40. eaglesoars
      41 | March 13, 2018 7:30 pm

      RIX wrote:

      Flying non-stop in May from Chicago to Honolulu we had a nine over layover
      in San Francisco for “mechanical” reasons

      I remember that.


    41. eaglesoars
      42 | March 13, 2018 7:32 pm

      RIX wrote:

      Flying non-stop in May from Chicago to Honolulu we had a nine over layover
      in San Francisco for “mechanical” reasons

      I remember that. @ Deplorable Macker:

      very cool


    42. eaglesoars
      43 | March 13, 2018 7:45 pm

      yep, big surprise here

      McCain: Trump’s CIA pick was involved in ‘one of the darkest chapters in American history

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mccain-trump%E2%80%99s-cia-pick-was-involved-in-%E2%80%98one-of-the-darkest-chapters-in-american-history%E2%80%99/ar-BBKaZB5?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp


    43. rain of lead
      44 | March 13, 2018 9:32 pm

      link for pa election results

      http://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/

      not looking too good for the repub


    44. lobo91
      45 | March 13, 2018 9:44 pm

      Appeals court backs Texas, Trump in sanctuary city fight

      Ruling: ICE detainers are legal; state can punish sanctuaries

      States have the power to punish sanctuary cities within their borders and to force local police and sheriff’s departments to cooperate in turning illegal immigrants over to the federal government for deportation, an appeals court ruled Tuesday in upholding a Texas law.

      The 3-0 decision by a panel of the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals marks a major victory for President Trump, who has demanded sanctuary cities be punished for thwarting the federal government and protecting illegal immigrants.

      The judges didn’t go that far, but they did say the federal government’s “detainer” requests, which ask local governments to hold illegal immigrants for pickup, are legal. Localities can refuse based on their own resources, the court ruled — but the detainer requests are legal, the judges said.

      Texas Gov. Greg Abbott praised the ruling.

      “Law is in effect,” he said on Twitter.

      Known as SB4, the law Mr. Abbott signed last year requires police to determine the legal status of those they encounter during their duties.

      The law also punished local elected officials, police chiefs and other law enforcement leaders who enacted or carried out sanctuary policies that refused cooperation with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

      The law explicitly said local jurisdictions should comply with detainer requests.

      Immigrant-rights advocates and a number of Texas cities had objected. They said detainers forced state or local police to hold illegal immigrants beyond their usual release time, infringing on their Fourth Amendment rights.

      But Judge Edith H. Jones, writing the court’s opinion, said it’s not clear illegal immigrants are covered by the Fourth Amendment. But even beyond that, she said, federal detainer requests are legitimate.

      She said that under the Trump administration’s current policy, ICE officers must issue an administrative warrant to accompany their detainer requests. Those warrants serve as a statement of probable cause that local police can rely on to hold someone — just as they would do for any other police officer who makes a valid request.

      “Here the ICE-detainer mandate itself authorizes and requires state officers to carry out federal detention requests,” Judge Jones wrote.


    45. rain of lead
      46 | March 13, 2018 9:59 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      razor thin
      55 left to count and less than 800 votes apart


    46. rain of lead
      47 | March 13, 2018 10:00 pm

      update has stalled
      dems trolling graveyards for spare votes


    47. 48 | March 13, 2018 10:04 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      the muzz should be happy that i wasnt running the interrogation program.

      Or me and I actually know a thing or two about the job !

      I know nothing about enhanced or otherwise interrogation. But the Muzzies are super extra glad I wasn’t involved. Because I would have called up a hollyweird costumer I know, and had him made pig suits, then called up a pharmicist I know, and had him whip up a batch of porcine sex pheromones and then called a porno cameraman I know and arranged for each and every one of those muzzies to star in a Islamic-porcine pornographic film , before feeding them to the pigs afterwards. And force all of the muzzies to watch the porno’s being made.

      First they get fucked by the pig, then they get eaten by the pig, then Allah casts them into hell forever. When they know they are not going to be a martyr and Allah is going to curse them, they aint so damned tough.

      Nothing, in my humble opinion, is more motivating than a date with the hangman in the morning.


    48. Deplorable Bumr50
      49 | March 13, 2018 10:14 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      Count it as a D win.

      Saccone ran a horrible campaign, and leaned on the NRRC for ads, who went completely negative and basically badgered people while Lamb used that to project a positive image, using his veteran status as a springboard.

      The only ads I saw linking Saccone to Trump happened in the last three days.

      All of the GOP sponsored ads focused on ‘Nancy Pelosi.’

      I can guarantee you that most of the independents and Dems that voted for Trump don’t give a rat’s ass about Nancy Pelosi. They care about PA.

      Stupid party, stupid candidate.


    49. eaglesoars
      50 | March 13, 2018 10:15 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      update has stalled
      dems trolling graveyards for spare votes

      auto recount?


    50. Deplorable Bumr50
      51 | March 13, 2018 10:17 pm

      @ rain of lead:
      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      And FUCK Tim Murphy.


    51. rain of lead
      52 | March 13, 2018 10:19 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      what is the margin for a recount? 1% ?


    52. Deplorable Bumr50
      53 | March 13, 2018 10:20 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      No idea.


    53. rain of lead
      54 | March 13, 2018 10:24 pm

      found this

      “Recount statute mandatory for less than 0.5%, and I suppose state funded. Petition for recount available for fraud allegations”


    54. AZfederalist
      55 | March 13, 2018 10:25 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      The CIA has been discouraged from developing human intel.

      … and as a result, there are many things we don’t know that we need to know.


    55. eaglesoars
      56 | March 13, 2018 10:31 pm

      There is not auto-recount because it’s not a statewide race. A recount can be requested w/in 5 days if 3 voters in each precinct request it.

      per Brett Baier


    56. Deplorable Bumr50
      57 | March 13, 2018 10:37 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Saccone will concede.

      Disgusting, all around.

      If you had to live through this campaign, while residing in another district like CW and I did, you too would have seen this coming a mile away.

      You should have heard the desperate radio ads today.

      Even I wanted to shut the Saccone ads off.


    57. Deplorable Bumr50
      58 | March 13, 2018 10:39 pm


    58. eaglesoars
      59 | March 13, 2018 10:41 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      THIS close. dammit
      the good news is that this is only for a year ??


    59. Deplorable Bumr50
      60 | March 13, 2018 10:44 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      2020 I believe.


    60. Deplorable Bumr50
      61 | March 13, 2018 10:46 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Seriously, I think every ad said “Conor Lamb will support Nancy Pelosi’s liberal agenda.”

      Nobody talks like that but us.

      That’s not going to get you any votes in the Appalachian foothills. Morons.


    61. Deplorable Bumr50
      62 | March 13, 2018 10:50 pm

      I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but that’s probably a Lamb win in a layup.

      Saccone and the GOP don’t seem to have their shit together AT ALL.

      (Sorry, kids. Just callin’ what I see…I can’t vote…)


    62. eaglesoars
      63 | March 13, 2018 11:01 pm

      they’re only 95 votes apart Saccone CANNOT concede, he just can’t


    63. eaglesoars
      64 | March 13, 2018 11:07 pm

      ok, we’re not going to know until tomorrow. I’m turning in. nite.


    64. Deplorable Bumr50
      65 | March 13, 2018 11:08 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      I’m angry that it’s even close. Sorry.

      I guess they’re counting absentees now.


    65. 66 | March 13, 2018 11:35 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      Petition for recount available for fraud allegations”

      Those apparently do exist. From what I was seeing on Twitter the Dems were telling a lot of people they couldn’t vote because of the redistricting, which did not count in this election. So apparently quiet a few people were prevented from voting.


    66. lobo91
      67 | March 13, 2018 11:50 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      THIS close. dammit
      the good news is that this is only for a year ??

      Not even a year. It’s until January. Whoever wins will have to do it all again in November


    67. lobo91
      68 | March 13, 2018 11:52 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      rain of lead wrote:

      Petition for recount available for fraud allegations”

      Those apparently do exist. From what I was seeing on Twitter the Dems were telling a lot of people they couldn’t vote because of the redistricting, which did not count in this election. So apparently quiet a few people were prevented from voting.

      That’s not the sort of fraud that would affect a recount, though. There are no “do overs” in elections. If they didn’t vote, they didn’t vote.


    68. Buckeye Abroad
      69 | March 14, 2018 4:29 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      Robert Heinlein is smiling.


    69. coldwarrior
      70 | March 14, 2018 4:37 am

      the dems gad to run a moderate republican to win in pa-18 and he won against a jabrony by .2%???

      some wave.

      well, lamb better get busy, he has to do it again in a few months.


    70. 71 | March 14, 2018 6:30 am

      Did I see that Germany is pushing for an arrest warrant against our new CIA head for war crimes?


    71. 72 | March 14, 2018 7:16 am

      And Stephen Hawking has passed away.


    72. rain of lead
      73 | March 14, 2018 7:24 am

      morning y’all


    73. eaglesoars
      74 | March 14, 2018 7:26 am

      right_wing2 wrote:

      Did I see that Germany is pushing for an arrest warrant against our new CIA head for war crimes?

      not quite. Something called the European Council for Constitutional and Human Rights asked Germany is issue an arrest warrant for her. I’m not clear on when the request was made, yesterday or 10 yrs ago


    74. 75 | March 14, 2018 8:45 am

      Quiet in here…


    75. rain of lead
      76 | March 14, 2018 8:45 am

      bloody hell, this woman looks scary as fuck.


    76. eaglesoars
      78 | March 14, 2018 9:00 am

      @ rain of lead:

      she looks like a high school geometry teacher


    77. RIX
      79 | March 14, 2018 9:03 am

      @ rain of lead:
      @ eaglesoars:
      She looks like the nun who was principal of the grammar school that I went to.
      Now she knew something about enhanced interrogation techniques!


    78. RIX
      80 | March 14, 2018 9:06 am

      https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/03/14/a-true-inspiration-stephen-hawking-has-died-at-the-age-of-76/
      @ Twitchy
      Stephen Hawking has died. R.I.P


    79. coldwarrior
      81 | March 14, 2018 9:17 am

      Pa18 has 50-70k more registered dems than GOP and they only won by .2%

      you draw yinz’s own conclusion.


    80. darkwords
      82 | March 14, 2018 9:27 am

      @ Buckeye Abroad:
      Just reread starship troopers after 30 years. It held up well I thought. Couldn’t vote unless you served


    81. darkwords
      83 | March 14, 2018 9:31 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      I think the gop is getting outsmarted again. The left had profiled what a winning candidate looks like in a red area. Then they search for that candidate. The right needs to run smart candidates who can leverage trump. Zero chamber of commerce quacks. And


    82. coldwarrior
      84 | March 14, 2018 9:32 am

      right_wing2 wrote:

      And Stephen Hawking has passed away.

      huge loss.


    83. coldwarrior
      85 | March 14, 2018 9:35 am

      darkwords wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      I think the gop is getting outsmarted again. The left had profiled what a winning candidate looks like in a red area. Then they search for that candidate. The right needs to run smart candidates who can leverage trump. Zero chamber of commerce quacks. And

      yep, lamb is the old-school democrat model, patriotic, pro-growth, center even center-right.

      until he gets to DC and votes in lock step with pelosi. the jabronies in mt lebanon feel better about themselves now (mark cuban is a jabrony from my lebo for an example)

      but like i said, a 60k advantage to the dems and they had to run a moderate republican to win and only by .2%!

      dems are in trouble.


    84. RIX
      86 | March 14, 2018 9:40 am

      http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-democrats-vow-continue-russia-probe-release-report/story?id=53725902
      @ ABC News
      House Dems vow to continue the Russia collusion investigation. This is like a snipe hunt. If you were a Boy Scout
      you know what I am talking about. You are never going to find one because they don’t exist. But you keep looking
      anyway.


    85. 87 | March 14, 2018 10:36 am

      It’s “National Walkout Day.”
      Or as the working population and, NRA members and conservatives call it —

      “Wednesday”


    86. 89 | March 14, 2018 12:26 pm

      Oh this is rich.

      The marching twits have gone to the White House and – GASP! – they have turned their BACKS to the White House! They have shown the President what’s what by showing him their backs! That’ll show him….

      …except he’s in California….


    87. 90 | March 14, 2018 12:47 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:
      Let’s see what kind of coverage a similar event in support of Life gets.

      I know. None. Or screams about misogynistic bigots.


    88. eaglesoars
      91 | March 14, 2018 4:34 pm

      I hope this isn’t true. Very sad

      Donald Trump Jr and wife Vanessa expected to file for divorce after 13 years of marriage and five children, say friends

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5501597/Donald-Trump-Jr-wife-Vanessa-expected-file-divorce.html


    89. 92 | March 14, 2018 4:38 pm

      It looks like the woman who claimed she was fired because of her concealed carry permit may have been less than honest. https://www.chicksonright.com/2018/03/14/updates-on-the-woman-who-claimed-she-was-fired-for-having-a-concealed-carry-permit/


    90. eaglesoars
      93 | March 14, 2018 4:55 pm

      @ right_wing2:

      yeah, I figured the initial story was suspect. This is Virginia, no gov’t agency is going to fire somebody for exercising a legal right


    91. coldwarrior
      95 | March 14, 2018 5:07 pm

      i got sent home early, the ER wasnt busy and i was making basically double time…i was trying to hide but they found me!

      😉


    92. eaglesoars
      96 | March 14, 2018 5:09 pm

      United strikes again

      United Airlines mistakenly flies Kansas-bound German shepherd to Japan

      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/united-airlines-mistakenly-flies-kansas-bound-german-shepherd-to-japan/


    93. 98 | March 14, 2018 5:22 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      Losing his benefits should be the least of his worries, the bastard should be charged with violating 18 US Code 2384 & 2385.


    94. eaglesoars
      99 | March 14, 2018 5:23 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      take his pension and benefits.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/14/us/politics/andrew-mccabe-fbi-firing-recommendation-justice-department.html?smid=tw-share

      you left out the ‘go to jail’ part


    95. coldwarrior
      100 | March 14, 2018 5:34 pm

      @ doriangrey:
      @ eaglesoars:
      😆

      no one IMPORTANT is going to go to jail over any of this.

      trump will try but it won’t happen. only little people go to jail.


    96. 101 | March 14, 2018 5:41 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      trump will try but it won’t happen. only little people go to jail.

      Sigh… and that tragically is probably how it will play out.


    97. coldwarrior
      102 | March 14, 2018 5:42 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      trump will try but it won’t happen. only little people go to jail.

      Sigh… and that tragically is probably how it will play out.

      i will be so happy to be wrong, but, as evidenced by teh ton of crap that the clintons have got away with for 40 years and not seen one serious investigation…just to cherry pic an example of many


    98. lobo91
      103 | March 14, 2018 7:33 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      United strikes again

      United Airlines mistakenly flies Kansas-bound German shepherd to Japan

      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/united-airlines-mistakenly-flies-kansas-bound-german-shepherd-to-japan/

      And then tried to give the people the wrong dog


    99. Aussie Infidel
      104 | March 14, 2018 7:35 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      the muzz should be happy that i wasnt running the interrogation program.

      Or me and I actually know a thing or two about the job !

      I know nothing about enhanced or otherwise interrogation. But the Muzzies are super extra glad I wasn’t involved. Because I would have called up a hollyweird costumer I know, and had him made pig suits, then called up a pharmicist I know, and had him whip up a batch of porcine sex pheromones and then called a porno cameraman I know and arranged for each and every one of those muzzies to star in a Islamic-porcine pornographic film , before feeding them to the pigs afterwards. And force all of the muzzies to watch the porno’s being made.

      First they get fucked by the pig, then they get eaten by the pig, then Allah casts them into hell forever. When they know they are not going to be a martyr and Allah is going to curse them, they aint so damned tough.

      Nothing, in my humble opinion, is more motivating than a date with the hangman in the morning.

      Real interrogations were by the book right down the GC line, because we’d end up in court if we did anything else. ‘Inoculation’ Training for our own ‘subject to capture’ personnel was the full monte Warsaw Pact no holds barred interrogations with only permanent injury wavers in place because that would degrade our own people’s effectiveness. Our efforts included preconditioning, muscle stress standing and ‘gravel sitting’ positions in ‘the tank’ with full sensory denial. Four core interrogation techniques, Harsh (tricked our mind attack and simulations) soft (the most effective after conditioning) , Repetitious (more conditioning than an actual technique) and Technical Attack (quite successful using stool pidgins manipulated environments, directional mics, total darkness and ploys). We also used stage managed ploys often using the GC (which by the bye is so full of holes it can be compared to Swiss Cheese) attaching ethnicity, religion, race, sex, core moral imperatives and character. These were protected by STANAGS so that we didn’t permanently damage our own personnel. That said we were operating right on the edge of known psychological theory and the doctors and psychologists were making judgement calls all the time. I know for a fact that several subjects suffered semi permanent physical damage and a few were accidentally psychotically damaged by the process. Everything and I mean EVERYTHING was recorded and we maintained serious and complete control of our staffs at all times because the techniques used had effects not only on the subjects under interrogation but those who were dishing stout and the guards controlling the process. Any personnel who showed ANY true anti-social tendencies or personality defects were immediately removed, and we had a few of them including an undiagnosed true sadist.


    100. eaglesoars
      105 | March 14, 2018 8:55 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      undiagnosed true sadist.

      did this person KNOW they were a sadist and was just very good at hiding it? Or did s/he think the tendencies were normal? Also, did this person experience abuse as a child?


    101. eaglesoars
      106 | March 14, 2018 9:03 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      And then tried to give the people the wrong dog

      If I were a really good business person I’d start a pet transport company, covering ground and air. I’d start small, just taking pets to appointments, grooming, etc. Just to learn the ropes.

      Of course I’d have to be a lot younger, too.


    102. coldwarrior
      107 | March 14, 2018 9:31 pm

      i am sick of this global warming, i should not have to put on an N2B flight parka to go outside to have a cigar.

      I.AM.NOT.AMUSED.


    103. eaglesoars
      108 | March 14, 2018 9:40 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      no kidding. they keep telling me it’s 48 degrees outside yet I have to bundle up like a freaking Inuit. They lie.


    104. AZfederalist
      109 | March 14, 2018 9:48 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      https://twitter.com/OscarWildeGrey/status/973938412225937409

      Love that: Celery: 95% water, 100% not pizza


    105. eaglesoars
      110 | March 14, 2018 9:55 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      if you wrap celery in tin foil, it lasts about 3 times as long. Which is why I never do that.


    106. AZfederalist
      111 | March 14, 2018 9:56 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      United strikes again

      United Airlines mistakenly flies Kansas-bound German shepherd to Japan

      Nobody can be that stupid. Can they? What kind of people are they hiring? Is this another company that touts: “Strength through diversity!”? Why, yes, yes they do:

      https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/company/globalcitizenship/diversity.aspx

      Mission

      At United, we define diversity as the range of differences that make individuals unique, including ability, age, ethnicity, gender identification, race, sexual orientation, religious belief and veteran’s status. Inclusion is how we leverage these differences to form a genuine community and expand business opportunities.[Hmmm, competence doesn’t seem to be a driving factor here]

      Our approach is treating diversity and inclusion like a core leadership competency, taking diversity well beyond compliance. The goal is for leaders to create a culture where acceptance and appreciation of everyone is the norm and each employee is comfortable bringing their full selves to work. [Everybody gets a trophy. If you are “diverse”] Our mission is to create an inclusive work environment, characterized by dignity and respect, that empowers every employee to serve the global marketplace and contribute to our success. [How’s that working out for you?]

      Vision

      Through our Diversity and Inclusion strategy, we find innovative and effective solutions to engage employees from diverse backgrounds and cultures in taking our flyer-friendly service [Yeah, you’ve got a great reputation for that. BTW, do you issue the brass knuckles to your flight crew, or do they have to provide their own?] around the globe. We are driving to become recognized as an airline where:

      leaders embrace diversity and inclusion as a business advantage
      employees feel highly valued, are actively engaged and are treated with dignity and respect
      customers value our inclusive approach to delivering flyer-friendly service [Nothing here about superior service. … and that “flyer-friendly”, I don’t think those words mean what you think they mean]
      Diversity and inclusion initiatives

      At United, we drive diversity and inclusion by developing our leaders, maximizing engagement, attracting and retaining talent, and expanding brand awareness. Learn more about our Diversity and Inclusion Initiatives.


    107. eaglesoars
      112 | March 14, 2018 10:03 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      expanding brand awareness.

      SUCCESS!!


    108. AZfederalist
      113 | March 14, 2018 10:05 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      It looks like the woman who claimed she was fired because of her concealed carry permit may have been less than honest. https://www.chicksonright.com/2018/03/14/updates-on-the-woman-who-claimed-she-was-fired-for-having-a-concealed-carry-permit/

      I don’t know, reading the whole article, the following is a key point:

      Whether or not you like how she’s handling this, or if she was good at her job…. if that “safety concern” WAS the gun permit… and that WAS used against her… this is a big deal.

      So, if there was a safety concern, they should have documented what that concern was. That is always the case in discipline cases. … and the employee signs the safety warning. So I’m sure they will be happy to produce that. If not, there may be a pony in that pile.


    109. AZfederalist
      114 | March 14, 2018 10:06 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      AZfederalist wrote:

      expanding brand awareness.

      SUCCESS!!

      😆


    110. coldwarrior
      115 | March 14, 2018 10:07 pm

      @ AZfederalist:
      someone either put the incorrect tag on the crate or entered incorrect data at the ‘curb’.

      at which point, the crate with the dog in it was destined for japan because no one has time or is motivated to actually check if the tag is correct.

      any time that you check baggage you MUST look at the tag applied and make sure that the airport designator is correct.

      how do i know all of this? lemme tell ya about a bag that went to a better location than i went to! I was flying from berlin to dublin and one of my bags went to tenerife. it caught up with me 2 days later and had a nice tan.


    111. AZfederalist
      117 | March 14, 2018 10:08 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      And then tried to give the people the wrong dog

      Upon landing in Kansas City, the family went to a cargo facility to pick up 10-year-old Irgo, a German shepherd, but were instead given a Great Dane.

      Yeah, they should have never been able to tell the difference. 😉


    112. eaglesoars
      118 | March 14, 2018 10:09 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      About a year ago, United was criticized after a giant bunny, which was expected to be named the world’s largest rabbit, died in its cargo area.


    113. Aussie Infidel
      119 | March 14, 2018 10:12 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      undiagnosed true sadist.

      did this person KNOW they were a sadist and was just very good at hiding it? Or did s/he think the tendencies were normal? Also, did this person experience abuse as a child?

      No I don’t think so.

      He didn’t hide it because he didn’t recognise it in himself

      I believe that he thought everyone thought these waysDEFINITELY YES. We researched him in depth after we identified his problem and he was stood down and he was subject to counselling as well. His childhood was HORRIFIC. It’s a wonder that he survived. He spent days at a time locked in a tiny cupboard and was subject to terrible beatings, bouts of starvation and burning attacks. I became suspicious when he and I were carrying out ‘Mutt & Jeff’ attacks (hard/soft) and he seemed to be really enjoying it. I pulled him off these ploys when my suspicions resulted in a report to a psychologist on site. At one stage he opined…, “gee Sir we make a great team” whilst smiling broadly. I needed a shower ! We also had non involved staff rotating in and out ‘watching the watchers’, like me and other control staff. I told my good lady wife that I knew that I was still OK because I was still having nightmares regularly during ‘Interrogation Training’ season.

      The ‘Guard Force’ were recruited from Naval Staff so that there was less chance that the subjects wouldn’t know them. ALL of the Interrogators were fully trained and prior to the end of their course, had to undergo the same ‘inoculation experience’ as the subjects under training, including a surprise ‘shock of capture experience. by a very robust SAS ‘snatch squad’ at zero Dark thirty out of barracks, transportation to the Interrogation site, Processing and the full monty interrogation right to the edge of the governing STANAG.


    114. eaglesoars
      120 | March 14, 2018 10:30 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      His childhood was HORRIFIC.

      As I suspected. My sister had to deal with a case of a 10 yr old girl that enjoyed slaughtering animals. It’s suspected she witnessed her drug-addicted mother kill an infant sibling. This girl had been killing animals since she was about 5. Did the person in your case also have a history of animal abuse?


    115. 121 | March 14, 2018 10:57 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      How do you treat that? Or CAN You?


    116. eaglesoars
      122 | March 14, 2018 10:57 pm

      bedtime nite


    117. lobo91
      123 | March 14, 2018 11:03 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      How do you treat that? Or CAN You?

      Find a bigger animal


    118. eaglesoars
      124 | March 14, 2018 11:03 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      How do you treat that? Or CAN You?

      I have no idea. The rest of the story…when the girl’s mother was incarcerated she became a ward of the court. No father in the picture. My sister found him, he had no idea he had this daughter and was thrilled. The bad news – his girlfriend was pregnant with their first child. No way this girl was going to be allowed near the baby. The girl was so glad to have a father who wanted her and a woman who was willing to try to be a mom in addition to her own baby – but my sister had to threaten to go to court and pull his parental rights unless he agreed to some complicated visiting/custody arrangement. I don’t know what the status of that case is right now, I do know they brought in every shrink-type professional they could lay hands on.


    119. 125 | March 14, 2018 11:06 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Horrible. That poor little girl.


    120. Aussie Infidel
      126 | March 14, 2018 11:18 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      How do you treat that? Or CAN You?

      I have no idea. The rest of the story…when the girl’s mother was incarcerated she became a ward of the court. No father in the picture. My sister found him, he had no idea he had this daughter and was thrilled. The bad news – his girlfriend was pregnant with their first child. No way this girl was going to be allowed near the baby. The girl was so glad to have a father who wanted her and a woman who was willing to try to be a mom in addition to her own baby – but my sister had to threaten to go to court and pull his parental rights unless he agreed to some complicated visiting/custody arrangement. I don’t know what the status of that case is right now, I do know they brought in every shrink-type professional they could lay hands on.

      Boris (a pseudonym) apparently killed birds and other animals such as cats as a child but he effectively went undiagnosed until we stumbled across him in the military. He was subject to psychological treatment and was also stood down from the army reserve. He appeared unaware that what he believed to be ‘normal’ actually wasn’t!


    121. 127 | March 14, 2018 11:52 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      https://twitter.com/OscarWildeGrey/status/973938412225937409

      Love that: Celery: 95% water, 100% not pizza

      Yup, my favorite response as well.


    122. 128 | March 15, 2018 7:01 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      With the way the non-relationship with my son developed over the course of 30 years…yes, that’s how old he is…I sometimes wish I could sue the living shit out of his mother for what she did to him…and to me.


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