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    by coldwarrior ( 160 Comments › )
    Filed under Open thread, Sports at May 3rd, 2018 - 11:01 pm

    Greetings from ‘Up North’!

    Welcome to the Kentucky Derby 2018 Open Thread. This will mark the 37th year in a row that I have watched the race on tv. For the longest time, even in the military and living out of the country, I have never missed this race. I don’t care about horses, horse racing, or betting on horses. I have zero interest in all things equine. But this statistical anomaly has recently fascinated me. I havent’s missed this race since Jr High School because I have always quite randomly been in front of a TV that was showing the race live. This has occurred in Berlin, Kenya, Ireland and Israel and at home here in the States with no effort on my part.

    For the longest time I never noticed this occurrence. Then it struck me. What are the odds of randomly and without effort being in front of a TV showing a once a year horse race every year for 37 years?

    Of course, over the past decade or so I have made it a point to watch to keep the string going, and now this has become an event at my parent’s. Mom is a horse person. Yinz know how they are. This started by me bringing up my girls to G’Ma’s to wear great hats and watch the race. Well, has this little event grown.

    Now, G’ma has more or less commandeered the local country bar up the road to host this event that now draws 50 or so friends and neighbors. It’s a great little joint with good food and they are long time friends with the owners and staff from well before the place re-opened under their care. G’Ma has fashioned the most elegant hats for the girls and Mrs Coldwarrior. These are really fancy and would do well at Churchill Downs. She has the special cups and ingredients for mint juleps ready to go and has schooled the bartender on the proper mixology for this icon. All women are to be in dresses and hats and all men are to be in proper attire with a hat as well to attend. This event has grown too big for their property, and that is saying something!

    I will be wearing one of my Cubavera shits, linen pants, and a classic Sam Snead Porkpie hat procured at the Village Hat Shop in San Diego. I will be bringing a box of Drew Estates Liga Privada for cigars on the deck after the race.

    More on the horses later! Enjoy this open!

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    160 Responses to “Derby Weekend 2018 Open”
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    1. 1 | May 3, 2018 11:54 pm

      Then it struck me. What are the odds of randomly and without effort being in front of a TV showing a once a year horse race every year for 37 years?

      Without actually doing the math? I would guess, 1×10^3 to 1…


    2. eaglesoars
      3 | May 4, 2018 7:06 am

      good morning. completely off topic but interesting. Hawaii is blowing up. Well, the Big Island anyway

      Ten thousand ordered to evacuate as Hawaii’s Kilauea volcano spews lava 150ft into the air and releases deadly gas as streets crack in half after more than 250 quakes rock the Big Island in seismic explosion

      cook pics, too

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5689799/Evacuations-ordered-Hawaiian-volcano-spews-lava-residential-area-days-earthquakes.html


    3. 4 | May 4, 2018 7:15 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      Gorbull warming plus fracing no doubt.


    4. 5 | May 4, 2018 7:23 am

      Good Morning everyone!
      UPDATE: Round 9 starts today. Two days ago I had my full-body CT scan (which I should have had after Round 6, but the oncologist’s office had some scheduling errors), the results of which I will know this coming Tuesday.
      I will also meet with my cardiologist first. So yeah, it’s gonna be a busy few days….pray for me. Thanks.


    5. 6 | May 4, 2018 7:28 am

      Oh the Fifth Column Treasonous Marxist Mainstream Media panties are in a twist…

      https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/03/sinclair-broadcast-challenge-to-fox-news-566757

      Sinclair is a “Conservative” media outlet. When I say “Conservative” I mean, that it is targeted at “Conservatives” rather than liberals. How conservative Sinclair really is, is anyone’s guess, though…

      Sinclair, which owns local news stations across the country, has stirred controversy by forcing its stations to air conservative “must-run” commentary, and the company sparked outrage at the end of March by requiring local news anchors to read a promotional script that echoed lines from President Donald Trump bashing the media.

      “If you want to stunt or counter the narrative that you’re going to outflank Fox on the right, you start trying to convince people you have some good talent on the reportorial side,” the agent said.

      Something to think about, as this Policico fear mongering piece masquerading as objective reporting makes it pretty clear that the left is very unhappy about the prospective of a media outlet to the right of middle of the road FoxNews scares the bejebus out of them.


    6. 7 | May 4, 2018 7:30 am

      @ Deplorable Macker:

      Chin up Macker, the world is not done with you yet. God knows I am not even near ready to take over writing Download City…


    7. 8 | May 4, 2018 7:37 am

      https://apnews.com/1a17a392f53f4b719bac5933d13b2ebb/Tech-companies-not-hiring-blacks-despite-ownership-rates

      Hmmm… Diversity… Perhaps, just maybe, it’s because Black America has a cultural prejudice against education? STEM jobs, are not going to be handed out based on numerical diversity quota’s. You either know the math and engineering, or you do not. The color of your skin simply is not going to get you a job as a electrical engineer if you do not having the electrical engineering education.


    8. 9 | May 4, 2018 7:40 am

      @ doriangrey:

      True, dat! I’ve got more important things to do than continue to make selrahC a laughing stock. Besides, he does a great job of that all by himself! 👿


    9. 10 | May 4, 2018 7:43 am

      Deplorable Macker wrote:

      @ doriangrey:

      True, dat! I’ve got more important things to do than continue to make selrahC a laughing stock. Besides, he does a great job of that all by himself!

      Yes, like finding yourself a animator and doing a full on animated WebSerial of Download City. Come on dude, you KNOW it would become a Cult Classic in short order.


    10. 11 | May 4, 2018 7:45 am

      @ doriangrey:

      Cough cough… plus once you get it going you could even afford to hire me on as a writer. Cause you know I have enough of a twisted imagination for it. Cough cough…


    11. RIX
      12 | May 4, 2018 8:50 am

      Greetings and salutations and sup?
      The Derby is the best two minutes in sports. I don’t know anything about these horses , so have to bone up.


    12. 13 | May 4, 2018 9:28 am

      @ RIX:

      I’ll agree with that assessment except for ONE exception. Those 2:24 of Secretariat running the Belmont. I never ever tire of watching that. During the movie I cried and hell, I KNEW how it was going to end.

      I watch the Derby but frankly I can’t think why they need a three-hour lead up to it, but it’s NBC and they haven’t got anything else much going for them.


    13. 14 | May 4, 2018 9:29 am

      @ Deplorable Macker:

      Reminds me that I haven’t been to the Playpen in awhile. I suppose because there is greater madness every day from more interesting sources than Clueless McDumdum at Twitchy.


    14. RIX
      15 | May 4, 2018 9:43 am

      The Barbarian wrote:

      @ RIX:

      I’ll agree with that assessment except for ONE exception. Those 2:24 of Secretariat running the Belmont. I never ever tire of watching that. During the movie I cried and hell, I KNEW how it was going to end.

      I watch the Derby but frankly I can’t think why they need a three-hour lead up to it, but it’s NBC and they haven’t got anything else much going for them.

      Yeah, the lead up gets tedious. And they have to feature celebrities that are there to get noticed.
      They always find some rapper that I have never heard of.


    15. eaglesoars
      16 | May 4, 2018 9:44 am

      @ Deplorable Macker:

      I know it isn’t but you are making this look remarkably easy.


    16. RIX
      17 | May 4, 2018 9:51 am

      https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/05/04/mean-girl-ana-navarro-jumps-on-the-bullying-sarah-sanders-bandwagon-makes-an-as-of-herself/
      Roceanne Roseanadana piles on Sarah Sanders supporting that goofy April Ryan.
      These are two insufferable twits.


    17. 18 | May 4, 2018 10:11 am

      @ RIX:

      They work for CNN – which means that more people actually READ about their asshattery on Twitchy than watched them LIVE on TV.


    18. 19 | May 4, 2018 10:35 am

      @ RIX:

      Ana Navarro is a brutally painful example of just how right Sen Joseph McCarty really was. Yea… I know, now you are wondering what the hell ole dorian is ranting about now.

      Its simple. McCarthy pointed out that Marxists were infiltrating America’s governmental bureaucracies and fundamental institutions (Education, Religion, Arts, Media and Legal system) As they infiltrated, they became the “Gate Keepers”.

      Marxist infiltrators decided who gained political asylum and who didn’t. Ana Navarro’s parents were Marxists fleeing a Marxist purge in Nicaragua, permitted entrance into America by Marxist fellow travelers within America’s State Department.

      Many of you have fumed over the fact that so many Muslim refugees from war torn middle eastern Islamic countries have been granted refugee status here in the US while Arab/Middle Eastern Christians are rejected refugee status and slaughtered.

      Well, McCarthy had your answer all along. Its the political version of “Follow the Money”. When you have corrupt “Gate Keeper’s”, they are going to let in who benefits their agenda, and bar anyone who threatens their agenda.

      To understand what their agenda is, you only need to see who they are admitting, and who they are baring.


    19. 20 | May 4, 2018 10:44 am

      @ doriangrey:

      Oh… and just so were are perfectly clear here… Doogie Howser (Neil Patrick Harris) portrayal of a straight Doctor was more creditable than Ana’s portrayal of a “CONservative” ever was.


    20. 21 | May 4, 2018 11:21 am

      @ doriangrey:

      Or Jennifer Rubin or David Frum.

      eagles – where did you hear about the idea of a conservative alternative to the White House Correspondents’ Dinner? I’m writing a piece for my blog – tongue in cheek – and wanted to make give the hat tip to where I got the idea (with full credit to you of course for giving me the head’s up).


    21. 22 | May 4, 2018 11:22 am

      @ doriangrey:

      BTW – I may have to steal that line, DG – will credit it, but it’s Just.Too.Good.


    22. eaglesoars
      23 | May 4, 2018 11:34 am

      The Barbarian wrote:

      where did you hear about the idea of a conservative alternative to the White House Correspondents’ Dinner? I

      somebody called in to Chris Plante’s radio show


    23. 24 | May 4, 2018 12:01 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      What’s some good animation software (free?) for macOS? I’d be interested in learning that! 😎


    24. eaglesoars
      25 | May 4, 2018 12:12 pm

      Rush: Judge has expressed skepticism in Mueller’s case against Manafort saying looks like intent is to oust Trump


    25. eaglesoars
      26 | May 4, 2018 12:12 pm

      Judge Ellis appointed by Reagan


    26. eaglesoars
      27 | May 4, 2018 12:14 pm

      Here: altho this names a different judge

      U.S. judge questions special counsel’s powers in Manafort case

      ALEXANDRIA, Va. (Reuters) – A federal judge on Friday sharply criticized Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s criminal case in Virginia against President Trump’s former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, and openly questioned whether Mueller exceeded his prosecutorial powers by bringing it.

      “I don’t see what relationship this indictment has with anything the special counsel is authorized to investigate,” U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis in the Eastern District of Virginia said.

      At tense hearing at the federal courthouse in Alexandria, Virginia, the judge said Mueller should not have “unfettered power” in his Russia probe and that the charges against Manafort did not arise from the investigation into Moscow’s alleged meddling in the 2016 U.S. election.

      []

      He also asked the special counsel’s office to share privately with him a copy of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosentein’s August 2017 memo elaborating on the scope of Mueller’s Russia probe. He said the current version he has been heavily redacted.

      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-manafort/u-s-judge-questions-special-counsels-powers-in-manafort-case-idUSKBN1I51WE


    27. eaglesoars
      28 | May 4, 2018 12:20 pm

      CNN: Judge in Manafort case says Mueller’s aim is to hurt Trump

      You don’t really care about Mr. Manafort’s bank fraud,” District Judge T.S. Ellis said to prosecutor Michael Dreeben, at times losing his temper. Ellis said prosecutors were interested in Manafort because of his potential to provide material that would lead to Trump’s “prosecution or impeachment,” Ellis said.
      “That’s what you’re really interested in,” said Ellis, who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan.
      He repeated his suspicion several times in the hour-long court hearing.

      https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/04/politics/paul-manafort-hearing/index.html


    28. coldwarrior
      29 | May 4, 2018 12:23 pm

      AJ Fernandez H Upmann, home brew west coast Princess Vika’s The Divided Sky APA.

      Ribs on the smoker. Life is good.


    29. eaglesoars
      30 | May 4, 2018 12:26 pm

      Business Insider:

      ‘Come on, man!’: A federal judge cast cast serious doubt on Mueller’s case against Manafort and suggested he’s using it to get Manafort to flip

      But Ellis reportedly wasn’t buying it, characterizing the special counsel’s office’s argument as: “We said this was what investigation was about, but we are not bound by it, and we were lying. Come on, man!”

      http://www.businessinsider.com/judge-ts-ellis-mueller-manafort-flip-trump-russia-2018-5

      WaPo: Earlier this week, Manafort revealed in a court filing that the special prosecutor’s office has said it has no evidence to turn over of any recording or intercepted phone calls between Manafort and Russian officials.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/manafort-to-appear-in-virginia-court-in-bid-to-have-fraud-charges-dismissed/2018/05/03/c3b0acb0-4ca2-11e8-b725-92c89fe3ca4c_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.cbe3f1bb6d16

      Man, after all this, if Judge Ellis lets Mueller get away with this, it’s going to be open season.


    30. eaglesoars
      31 | May 4, 2018 12:33 pm

      So it looks like this Prince bin Salmon guy is the real deal

      Saudi Arabia ‘agrees deal with Vatican to build churches for Christians living in the Muslim country

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5691075/Saudi-Arabia-agrees-deal-Vatican-build-churches-Christians-living-Muslim-country.html


    31. 32 | May 4, 2018 12:34 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Mueller’s appointment was a complete violation of the Special Counsel statute to begin with. He was not charged with investigating a specific crime. I’d haul Rosenstein in front of that judge as well and ask him what CRIME was in the initial charge to Rosenstein and where he gave Mueller authority to go beyond the scope of his charge. Because Mueller CANNOT do this without Rosenstein’s okay.

      And while I was at it, Ellis should ask Mueller what the hell was going on in the Southern District.


    32. eaglesoars
      33 | May 4, 2018 12:39 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      what the hell was going on in the Southern District.

      that’s the Michael Cohen case?

      I don’t think the judge will rule until he sees the unredacted version of Rosenstein’s memo. If he doesn’t get it, I wouldn’t be surprised if he threw every last one of them out of the state of Virginia.


    33. 34 | May 4, 2018 12:49 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Доверяй, но Проверяй…!


    34. eaglesoars
      35 | May 4, 2018 12:55 pm

      Rush: Judge Ellis has given Mueller 2 weeks to turn over the unredacted ‘scope’ memo or tell him why not and that HE will be the judge of what in the memo is relevant or not.


    35. eaglesoars
      36 | May 4, 2018 12:58 pm

      @ Deplorable Macker:

      um…………?


    36. 37 | May 4, 2018 1:03 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Yep – Cohen’s the Southern District.
      And the IG’s report is due to drop very, very soon. Depending on the rumor you’re listening to, it’s coming in within the week.

      What is going to be interesting is this: If the “scope” of the charging memo is to uncover Russian interference in the election, Mueller has nothing and has not even investigated this. If it is “collusion” with Russia on the election, if I’m Ellis, I’m asking him why he isn’t asking questions about the Dossier financed by the Democrats and used to get a FISA warrant.


    37. coldwarrior
      38 | May 4, 2018 1:07 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ Deplorable Macker:

      um…………?

      Trust yet verify.


    38. eaglesoars
      39 | May 4, 2018 1:08 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      And the IG’s report is due to drop very, very soon.

      I no longer believe in any IG report

      As for the ‘scope’ memo, what if Rosenstein wrote an open-ended directive? “…and wherever it may lead” type thing?

      We are all screwed in that case.


    39. 40 | May 4, 2018 1:34 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      I don’t think you can write a scope memo that is open ended. I believe the statute requires investigation into a SPECIFIC crime. Of course, we know there was no crime of collusion so it was faulty from the start. He can only go into other areas at the directive of the DOJ. Meaning, he would have needed specific PERMISSION to investigate Manafort’s supposed bank fraud. If he had no such permission, he’s going to have to explain to the judge under what authority he pursued this line of inquiry.

      And as has been pointed out, Sessions is only recused vis-a-vis anything pertaining to Russian interference or collusion and so Rosenstein had no authority to expand without Sessions’ permission. Of course, who the hell is following the rules anymore?

      But it’s fun watching the liberals scream BIAS at this judge after all the Obama appointees reached to the bottom of the barrel to find standing to rule on the travel ban.


    40. eaglesoars
      41 | May 4, 2018 1:39 pm

      Rush: Dr. Jennifer Pena has resigned. She’s the screaming barracuda bitch doctor who served Pence’s staff that went to Testor with lies about Ronnie Jackson.


    41. eaglesoars
      42 | May 4, 2018 1:42 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      I believe the statute requires

      I believe these people threw any legality out the window from the get-go and are just bulldozing their way thru. If Ellis doesn’t like it, there’s always an unfortunate accident in his near future.

      Think I’m joking? Mueller let 2 people he knew were innocent die in prison, people he had put there. I put nothing past him.

      If he needs a permission slip, Rosenstein will be happy to write one and post-date it.


    42. 43 | May 4, 2018 2:04 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      I couldn’t agree with you more. This whole affair stinks to effing high heaven, starting with Sessions recusal. Wouldn’t surprise me if that scumbag Rosenstein talked him into it.

      It’s the Comey firing that makes me suspicious. Comey is fired after Rosenstein writes a memo recommending such action. And then Rosenstein take the lead in appointing a special counsel regarding Russian collusion, the ONE isuse that Sessions has recused himself on. And Comey’s firing was supposedly the catalyst for the Special Counsel appointment.
      And then he appoints Mueller, Comey’s bosom buddy.

      It smells like the Streets of San Francisco.


    43. eaglesoars
      44 | May 4, 2018 2:09 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      And then he appoints Mueller, Comey’s bosom buddy.

      The day AFTER he knew Mueller didn’t get the FBI job he’d just interviewed for. Somehow it looks like Comey got set up by Rosenstein.

      gotta go. There’s a facial in my near-future


    44. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      45 | May 4, 2018 2:12 pm

      Deplorable Macker wrote:

      @ doriangrey:

      What’s some good animation software (free?) for macOS? I’d be interested in learning that!

      https://www.pencil2d.org/download/

      Always go open source if you can. I don’t know much about mac (currently) but this one looks decent if you are doing hand drawn.


    45. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      46 | May 4, 2018 2:14 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      @ RIX:

      Ana Navarro is a brutally painful example of just how right Sen Joseph McCarty really was. Yea… I know, now you are wondering what the hell ole dorian is ranting about now.

      Its simple. McCarthy pointed out that Marxists were infiltrating America’s governmental bureaucracies and fundamental institutions (Education, Religion, Arts, Media and Legal system) As they infiltrated, they became the “Gate Keepers”.

      Marxist infiltrators decided who gained political asylum and who didn’t. Ana Navarro’s parents were Marxists fleeing a Marxist purge in Nicaragua, permitted entrance into America by Marxist fellow travelers within America’s State Department.

      Many of you have fumed over the fact that so many Muslim refugees from war torn middle eastern Islamic countries have been granted refugee status here in the US while Arab/Middle Eastern Christians are rejected refugee status and slaughtered.

      Well, McCarthy had your answer all along. Its the political version of “Follow the Money”. When you have corrupt “Gate Keeper’s”, they are going to let in who benefits their agenda, and bar anyone who threatens their agenda.

      To understand what their agenda is, you only need to see who they are admitting, and who they are baring.

      I’ve pissed a lot of people off by telling them McCarthy was right all along. There also is no doubt now that he had a list. At that time the infiltration went all the way to the highest levels. Things haven’t gotten any better as time has passed either.


    46. 47 | May 4, 2018 2:25 pm

      Wow, just listened to VP Pence speaking before the NRA. If Pence isn’t a Christian, then he has some of the best speech writers to ever live.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAF56X9y34w


    47. 48 | May 4, 2018 2:29 pm

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      I’ve pissed a lot of people off

      Oh, believe me, so have I. But seldom as much as my telling them, if you believe that McCarthy was wrong, or unfairly smearing people, the degree that you believe that directly corresponds to how deeply you have been indoctrinated into Marxism without you even knowing it. Now that really pisses people off.


    48. 49 | May 4, 2018 2:36 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      The Barbarian wrote:

      And then he appoints Mueller, Comey’s bosom buddy.

      The day AFTER he knew Mueller didn’t get the FBI job he’d just interviewed for. Somehow it looks like Comey got set up by Rosenstein.

      gotta go. There’s a facial in my near-future

      Ooooo….my jealousy knows no bounds. You ever make it out this way I’m booking us for full days at Silverado in Napa or Indian Springs in St. Helena. BLISS. With wine.


    49. 50 | May 4, 2018 2:38 pm

      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-manafort/u-s-judge-questions-special-counsels-powers-in-manafort-case-idUSKBN1I51WE

      Ellis did not issue a ruling on Manafort’s motion to dismiss the indictment Friday.

      The Judge accused Mueller of lying and being on a witch hunt, then demanded to see the full unredacted “Scope” memo on Mueller’s investigation. I suspect that Ellis is about to bitch slap Mueller into the next world.


    50. 51 | May 4, 2018 2:39 pm

      President Trump speaking live before the NRA…

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAF56X9y34w


    51. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      52 | May 4, 2018 2:39 pm

      https://finance.yahoo.com/news/disgraced-ex-bofa-exec-raises-uncomfortable-questions-metoo-140122741.html

      Yahoo is asking themselves some uncomfortable questions. Of course their answer is that any amount of destruction is fine in pursuit of the agenda. I’m just surprised that ultra far left Yahoo allowed this article to be written.


    52. RIX
      53 | May 4, 2018 2:41 pm

      https://thegatewaypundit.us17.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a1f9b29171f5fb45edb2520ae&id=27ea9e7ab1&e=d43a186674
      @ Gateway Pundit
      Muller prosecutor and by inference Muller gets slapped down in court.


    53. 54 | May 4, 2018 2:49 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      I’ve pissed a lot of people off

      Oh, believe me, so have I. But seldom as much as my telling them, if you believe that McCarthy was wrong, or unfairly smearing people, the degree that you believe that directly corresponds to how deeply you have been indoctrinated into Marxism without you even knowing it. Now that really pisses people off.

      I always love springing on people that the Venona Papers proved McCarthy was absolutely right.

      And it’s always a fun exercise when libturds that know zilch about the period of McCarthy to blame HIM for the Hollywood Blacklist, etc. You have to remind them that it was the HOUSE UnAmerican Activities Committee and McCarthy was a Senator. Even then, they don’t make the connection.


    54. 55 | May 4, 2018 2:50 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      One of the lawyers is watching it live and yelled out to me – “Hey – Trump is speaking in front of YOUR organization!” To which I replied “Yeah, me and 5,499,999 other people.”


    55. 56 | May 4, 2018 3:07 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      @ doriangrey:

      One of the lawyers is watching it live and yelled out to me – “Hey – Trump is speaking in front of YOUR organization!” To which I replied “Yeah, me and 5,499,999 other people.”

      That 5.4 million number, by the way, is just the number that the NRA will admit receive the paid for NRA monthly publication. Unofficial sources within the NRA have said that it significantly under-represents the actual number of NRA members. The unoffical number I have seen, is somewhere around 14.5 million. Just sayin…


    56. 57 | May 4, 2018 4:12 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      If true, you have 14.5 million people dedicated to the right to own firearms who have never used them in an illegal manner. Meanwhile, Everytown and MSNBC are still chomping at the “hypocrisy” of the firearm ban while Trump and Pence were speaking.

      Now they’re new tac is “I guess the Secret Service doesn’t consider armed NRA members a ‘safe environment.'”

      Let me enlighten you twits. If Trump and Pense were speaking at a military installation, the Secret Service would impose the same rules.


    57. 58 | May 4, 2018 4:33 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      Let me enlighten you twits.

      ROTFLMAO… As if any of them would ever allow reality to interfere with their agenda.


    58. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      59 | May 4, 2018 5:05 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      doriangrey wrote:

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      I’ve pissed a lot of people off

      Oh, believe me, so have I. But seldom as much as my telling them, if you believe that McCarthy was wrong, or unfairly smearing people, the degree that you believe that directly corresponds to how deeply you have been indoctrinated into Marxism without you even knowing it. Now that really pisses people off.

      I always love springing on people that the Venona Papers proved McCarthy was absolutely right.

      And it’s always a fun exercise when libturds that know zilch about the period of McCarthy to blame HIM for the Hollywood Blacklist, etc. You have to remind them that it was the HOUSE UnAmerican Activities Committee and McCarthy was a Senator. Even then, they don’t make the connection.

      Yeah, that’s the argument that always gives me a headache. They absolutely can’t get it out of their head that he did the Hollywood Blacklist. No matter how many times you hit them with the truth they still argue otherwise. When you try to explain the Venona papers they give you a blank stare.


    59. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      60 | May 4, 2018 5:08 pm

      @ The Barbarian:
      @ doriangrey:
      I just tell them that the Secret Service is there just in case one lone leftist slips by for an assassination attempt. They then try to claim leftists aren’t the ones to worry about. At that point I begin reciting the list….


    60. 61 | May 4, 2018 5:41 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      Or they tell us that can’t find “VERONA PAPERS” on Google so we must be lying.

      Reagan was right: It’s not that our liberal friends are ignorant; they just know so much that isn’t so.”


    61. rain of lead
      62 | May 4, 2018 5:59 pm

      hey y’all
      it’s Friday

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTahQZHfza8


    62. eaglesoars
      63 | May 4, 2018 6:02 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      It’s not that our liberal friends are ignorant; they just know so much that isn’t so.”

      The problem is that their ignorance is willful because they suffer from a pathology that requires a reality that doesn’t exist


    63. rain of lead
      64 | May 4, 2018 6:02 pm

      then King George stepped in and said “hold my beer(s)”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoR6QCCGa8g


    64. eaglesoars
      65 | May 4, 2018 6:06 pm

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      Of course their answer is that any amount of destruction is fine in pursuit of the agenda.

      Let me be very clear. Women are the most vicious animals are the planet.


    65. eaglesoars
      66 | May 4, 2018 6:11 pm

      DOJ inspector general’s testimony postponed, amid new leads in Clinton case review

      Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s widely anticipated testimony next week before the House Oversight Committee has been postponed, as the Justice Department IG has pursued new leads in his review of the Hillary Clinton email investigation, according to a congressional letter and sources familiar with the matter.

      “It is of the utmost importance that your review be as fulsome, complete and unimpeded as possible,” Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., the chairman of the committee, wrote in a recent letter to Horowitz obtained by Fox News.

      uh huh

      http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/05/04/doj-inspector-generals-testimony-postponed-amid-new-leads-in-clinton-case-review.html


    66. eaglesoars
      67 | May 4, 2018 6:27 pm

      WASHINGTON — John Kerry’s bid to save one of his most significant accomplishments as secretary of state took him to New York on a Sunday afternoon two weeks ago, where, more than a year after he left office, he engaged in some unusual shadow diplomacy with a top-ranking Iranian official.

      He sat down at the United Nations with Foreign Minister Javad Zarif to discuss ways of preserving the pact limiting Iran’s nuclear weapons program. It was the second time in about two months that the two had met to strategize over salvaging a deal they spent years negotiating during the Obama administration, according to a person briefed on the meetings.

      http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/05/04/kerry-quietly-seeking-salvage-iran-deal-helped-craft/2fTkGON7xvaNbO0YbHECUL/story.html

      You know that yacht he had built and then docked in RI to avoid taxes? Yeah, put him on it, take it out to Boston Harbor, keel haul his ass a few times, then tie him to the wheel and sink the fucker


    67. lobo91
      68 | May 4, 2018 6:31 pm

      @ The Barbarian:

      Let me enlighten you twits. If Trump and Pense were speaking at a military installation, the Secret Service would impose the same rules.

      Sure would. George HW Bush visited my unit’s location in the Saudi Desert in the run-up to Desert Storm. We had to lock up all of our weapons.


    68. lobo91
      69 | May 4, 2018 6:33 pm

      The funny thing today was that the people checking everyone entering were from the TSA. No X-ray machines. Just metal detectors. They hand checked bags and such.

      There were Secret Service people in the background, along with dogs.

      I counted a grand total of 6 protesters outside.


    69. 70 | May 4, 2018 6:51 pm

      @ lobo91:

      Yep. When Bush 41 came to Travis AFB, same thing.


    70. 71 | May 4, 2018 6:52 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Blatant violation of the Logan Act. He isn’t IN the government anymore. But he got away with it during the runup to the Paris Peace Talks.

      I’d love to see Mike Pompeo revoke his passport.


    71. eaglesoars
      72 | May 4, 2018 6:55 pm

      @ The Barbarian:

      I’d like somebody to pull his citizenship. Let France have him


    72. darkwords
      73 | May 4, 2018 7:00 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Some told me it was silent women I had to tip toe around.


    73. 74 | May 4, 2018 7:09 pm

      Just tossed filets on the grill for dinner.


    74. eaglesoars
      75 | May 4, 2018 7:10 pm

      Oh Christ. What used to be Quest now Century something was taken over by new owners not too long ago. They have begun purging all legacy IT systems AND their people INCLUDING BILLING.

      This is absolutely the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. You know how MCI kicked at&t’s ass back in the day? AT&T didn’t do it’s own billing, it had no visibility to customer behavior/demo

      My brother-from-another-mother just got his notice


    75. eaglesoars
      76 | May 4, 2018 7:13 pm

      darkwords wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      Some told me it was silent women I had to tip toe around.

      We’re never silent, all men are hearing-impaired

      I’m only kinda joking


    76. 77 | May 4, 2018 7:19 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      all men are hearing-impaired

      Oh no, some of us can hear just fine, that’s why we’re still single.


    77. eaglesoars
      78 | May 4, 2018 7:21 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      precisely


    78. eaglesoars
      79 | May 4, 2018 7:42 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      Blatant violation of the Logan Act.

      headline just up at zip’s place

      If There Ever Was A Violation Of The Logan Act, John Kerry Just Broke It

      https://www.weaselzippers.us/383912-if-there-ever-was-a-violation-of-the-logan-act-john-kerry-just-broke-it/

      Additionally, he has met and spoken with several European officials on the matter, including German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier and French President Emmanuel Macron.


    79. 80 | May 4, 2018 7:49 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Yawn… John Fucking Kerry gets a pass. No, I honestly do not know why, but then again, I don’t know why he got one for doing the same thing back in the 1970’s either.


    80. eaglesoars
      81 | May 4, 2018 7:56 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      as someone at zip’s noted – he wants to be a war hero in another country


    81. eaglesoars
      82 | May 4, 2018 8:43 pm

      this is a fascinating piece on AI software being developed to read texts in the Vatican archives and get them online

      A new project untangles the handwritten texts in one of the world’s largest historical collections.
      https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/04/vatican-secret-archives-artificial-intelligence/559205/


    82. 83 | May 4, 2018 8:48 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Oh great, just what the world needs… An AI program that reads so many Catholic texts it develops a God Complex.


    83. rain of lead
      84 | May 4, 2018 8:51 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      Dave… what are you doing dave?


    84. AZfederalist
      85 | May 4, 2018 9:11 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      What used to be Quest now Century something was taken over by new owners not too long ago. They have begun purging all legacy IT systems AND their people INCLUDING BILLING.

      This is absolutely the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. You know how MCI kicked at&t’s ass back in the day? AT&T didn’t do it’s own billing, it had no visibility to customer behavior/demo

      My brother-from-another-mother just got his notice

      CenturyLink. My former phone provider and DSL provider. Whenever it rained, our phone line went out. Horrible service, when you had a problem, you would get their automated system with a dumb@$$ voice that would ask for your problem, then play something supposedly sounding like it was spinning a wheel or something, then it would come back and say, “We aren’t finding any problems on our end”. … When I canceled, they asked why I hadn’t called for service when it was acting flaky. /aargh!

      No more landline, we are completely cellular for both phones and internet. Way better service both ways.


    85. AZfederalist
      86 | May 4, 2018 9:12 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      Yawn… John Fucking Kerry gets a pass. No, I honestly do not know why, but then again, I don’t know why he got one for doing the same thing back in the 1970’s either.

      When, BTW, IIRC, he was still officially a Navy officer.


    86. AZfederalist
      87 | May 4, 2018 9:14 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      Oh great, just what the world needs… An AI program that reads so many Catholic texts it develops a God Complex.

      I read a science fiction book like that years ago. The story ended with the little robot effector for the real computer brain, looking at the location of the giant brain — basically committed into an infinite loop of self-introspection.


    87. eaglesoars
      88 | May 4, 2018 9:22 pm

      Did anyone else hear what gregg jarrett just said? Mueller went back thru the DOJ archives and unearthed an old case against Manafort that had been cleared 13 yrs ago in order to charge him now. He’s got a book coming out The Russia Hoax


    88. eaglesoars
      89 | May 4, 2018 9:24 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      Oh great, just what the world needs… An AI program that reads so many Catholic texts it develops a God Complex.

      Better that than God starting to think He’s Catholic


    89. eaglesoars
      90 | May 4, 2018 9:26 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      CenturyLink.

      That’s it. Used to be Quest, my last corporate employer. Some great times, loved it. Until the end.


    90. eaglesoars
      91 | May 4, 2018 9:36 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Used to be Quest

      QWEST

      I can’t even spell wrong


    91. eaglesoars
      92 | May 4, 2018 9:38 pm

      20 minutes ago

      BREAKING: Embattled FBI Lawyer Lisa Page Has Resigned

      http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/04/lisa-page-resign-fbi/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=site-share


    92. Deplorable Bumr50
      93 | May 4, 2018 9:40 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Quest is always poking me with needles.

      And making me pee.


    93. eaglesoars
      94 | May 4, 2018 9:59 pm

      NYT reporting James Baker also quit today


    94. eaglesoars
      95 | May 4, 2018 10:00 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      And making me pee.

      well,just stop doing that.


    95. Deplorable Bumr50
      96 | May 4, 2018 10:02 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Usually demanded.

      https://www.questdiagnostics.com/home.html


    96. darkwords
      97 | May 4, 2018 10:03 pm

      16 USC §1540(b) & 50 CFR §23.15(c)(3)(iii) make it a federal crime to travel abroad with more than 4 dead alligators for personal use, unless you have proper documentation them.


    97. eaglesoars
      98 | May 4, 2018 10:05 pm

      @ darkwords:

      that’s silly. it takes at least 3 to make a decent purse, then you’ve got the shoes…………….


    98. 99 | May 4, 2018 10:49 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ darkwords:

      that’s silly. it takes at least 3 to make a decent purse, then you’ve got the shoes…………….

      And now you know why the open toed pump was invented… So you can just slide in under the 4 gator limit.


    99. eaglesoars
      100 | May 4, 2018 10:58 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      I’m betting if I checked I’d found out they became popular during the 40’s when there was rationing. That’s how skirts got shorter. I have pictures of my mom from those days and the clothes were fabulous.


    100. AZfederalist
      101 | May 4, 2018 11:15 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      QWEST

      I can’t even spell wrong

      Yep, and before that it was GTE — may have been another name in between; I don’t remember.


    101. eaglesoars
      102 | May 4, 2018 11:19 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      Yep, and before that it was GTE

      never GTE – LCI, then merged with a firm from Colorado I forget the name of – that was really a good merger we all got along beautifully. Ach, I’m tired, brain not working.

      bedtime, nite


    102. AZfederalist
      103 | May 5, 2018 12:43 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      AZfederalist wrote:

      Yep, and before that it was GTE

      never GTE – LCI, then merged with a firm from Colorado I forget the name of – that was really a good merger we all got along beautifully. Ach, I’m tired, brain not working.

      bedtime, nite

      I stand corrected. In Texas, we had GTE. When we moved to Tucson, we started with U.S. West, In 2001, U.S. West became Qwest, then Qwest became CenturyLink in 2011.


    103. rain of lead
      104 | May 5, 2018 7:01 am

      morning y’all
      well. the girl shot a 274 at the last scoring archery practice
      a new personal best also a perfect round, 5 bullsyes in a row

      yeah…I think she will do just fine at the nationals


    104. 105 | May 5, 2018 10:01 am

      California now world’s fifth-largest economy, bigger than Britain

      http://www.sacbee.com/news/business/article210466514.html


    105. eaglesoars
      106 | May 5, 2018 10:19 am

      @ doriangrey:

      saw that yesterday, forget where. But what surprised me in the rpt I read is that the tech sector isn’t the largest, the largest is the financial sector, tech sector is 2nd. I think it was something line $26 bil to $20 bil.


    106. eaglesoars
      107 | May 5, 2018 10:19 am

      rain of lead wrote:

      5 bullsyes in a row

      crimeny, I hope she doesn’t get bored


    107. rain of lead
      108 | May 5, 2018 10:47 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      when she can nail 30 in a row…that’s when I would worry about boredom


    108. 109 | May 5, 2018 5:54 pm

      Spent the day playing “Oh your wife makes guitar straps, how amazing! Me? oh, yea I used to play a little guitar, no no, I’m nobody, you never heard of me”.


    109. 110 | May 5, 2018 5:55 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      Can I just fucking die now???


    110. rain of lead
      111 | May 5, 2018 7:30 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      so who’s wife made the straps?


    111. 112 | May 5, 2018 7:51 pm

      @ rain of lead:
      Then you give her a “how to” manual on making her own. The “Traditional Bowyer’s Bible” Volumes one to three should do the trick. 🙂


    112. 113 | May 5, 2018 7:57 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      @ doriangrey:

      so who’s wife made the straps?

      One of my brother’s father in laws neighbors.


    113. 114 | May 5, 2018 8:00 pm

      Its going to be a very very very long, very very very hot summer. I’m not sure I’m going to survive it.


    114. rain of lead
      115 | May 5, 2018 8:07 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      could be worse… could be standing on an erupting volcano in hawaii


    115. 116 | May 5, 2018 9:19 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      Yea, I suppose that could be considered worse. Its 90 outside, and 115 inside my container. I am having my first root-beer float of the summer. does this mean I have officially set up an ice-cream stand in hell? sure feels like it.


    116. eaglesoars
      117 | May 5, 2018 9:38 pm

      Justify won the Derby


    117. coldwarrior
      118 | May 5, 2018 10:22 pm

      Bwahahaaaa…

      Drunks!


    118. 119 | May 5, 2018 10:27 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      Bwahahaaaa…

      Drunks!

      Poofters…

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgKUHtcZEXc


    119. coldwarrior
      120 | May 5, 2018 10:48 pm

      @ doriangrey:
      Smashed horse people….this is a riot


    120. eaglesoars
      121 | May 5, 2018 11:23 pm

      speaking of party town…Baghdad?

      you should see the pics

      https://www.buzzfeed.com/borzoudaragahi/baghdad-nightlife?utm_term=.ykkBGbMdg#.al06OL4WV


    121. eaglesoars
      122 | May 5, 2018 11:26 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      CW, if you’re still around…

      I’m SICK. Could be strep, could be a nasty URI. BUT – my surgery was on apr 23 and I’ve been taking 875 mg amoxicillin 2x since that evening. What the hell gets past THAT?


    122. AZfederalist
      123 | May 5, 2018 11:30 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      speaking of party town…Baghdad?

      you should see the pics

      https://www.buzzfeed.com/borzoudaragahi/baghdad-nightlife?utm_term=.ykkBGbMdg#.al06OL4WV

      Actually, that’s good to see. If citizens have leisure time and activities, they are less likely to become radicals that threaten the rest of the world.


    123. eaglesoars
      124 | May 5, 2018 11:36 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      that’s GREAT to see. If you’re out partying till 4 am, you’re probably not making IEDs the next morning


    124. eaglesoars
      125 | May 5, 2018 11:45 pm

      oh ffs. guess who is giving one of the eulogies at McCain’s funeral service?

      https://twitter.com/thehill/status/992890945116016640


    125. Deplorable Bumr50
      126 | May 5, 2018 11:50 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      It will be a lecture. Not a eulogy.

      Probably post a pic of himself next to the casket.


    126. eaglesoars
      127 | May 5, 2018 11:57 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      watch him take shots at Trump. He won’t be able to help it.

      I have to go to bed. I think I’m running a temp, can’t stay up


    127. Deplorable Bumr50
      128 | May 6, 2018 12:07 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      Feel better.

      Goodnite!


    128. AZfederalist
      129 | May 6, 2018 12:33 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      watch him take shots at Trump. He won’t be able to help it.

      Of course he will. That’s why McLame chose him.

      You know, we used to excoriate the left when they would rejoice at the death of a conservative. With McCain, I have a very difficult time being gracious


    129. 130 | May 6, 2018 12:57 am

      pettifoggery…

      Definition of pettifogger. 1 : a lawyer whose methods are petty, underhanded, or disreputable : shyster. 2 : one given to quibbling over trifles. 3 See Robert Mueller.

      https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/04/mueller-russia-interference-election-case-delay-570627


    130. Deplorable Bumr50
      131 | May 6, 2018 2:30 am

      @ doriangrey:

      I LIKE the word!

      “PETTIFOGGER!!”


    131. eaglesoars
      132 | May 6, 2018 9:09 am

      Reality doesn’t conform to the needs of my pathology, therefore it is an ‘outlier’

      This week’s Reuters/Ipsos Core Political release presents something of an outlier of our trend. Every series of polls has the occasional outlier and in our opinion this is one
      []
      The Reuters/Ipsos Core Political poll has a significant realignment this week across a number of metrics. Most pronounced is President Trump’s approval rating which currently sits at 48% with all Americans. His number with registered voters is essentially the same at 49%. Corresponding with Trump’s stronger approval rating, evaluations of his job performance across the board are stronger this week from 57% approving of his handling of the economy to 44% approving of the way he treats people like them. On the generic congressional ballot, our current poll shows a +5-point advantage for Democrats, the smallest lead we’ve seen in recent weeks.

      https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/reuters-ipsos-data-core-political-2018-05-04


    132. RIX
      133 | May 6, 2018 9:46 am

      https://chicago.suntimes.com/entertainment/stormy-daniels-plays-stormy-daniels-on-latest-snl-mockery-of-trump-scandals/
      @ Chicago Sun Times
      If you watched SNL last night like I did you saw this opening skit. The reporter is positively oragasmic, but the thing
      was tedious and annoying. Baldwin does a grotesque impression and the whole thing was totally predictable.
      The kicker was that Stormy Daniels was played by…….. wait for it…… Stormy Daniels!
      The lib audience lapped it up clapping like trained seals , laughing uproariously. Had to change the channel.
      Not much on at that hour on a Saturday night.


    133. eaglesoars
      134 | May 6, 2018 9:47 am

      @ RIX:

      guess who’s paying her legal bills?

      Perkins Coie.

      I forget who found it, it may have been tracybeanz, not sure


    134. 135 | May 6, 2018 9:56 am

      Mueller Probe Might Have to Go Dark for Midterm Election

      Though there is no legal deadline, Justice Department guidelines say prosecutors should avoid the appearance of trying to sway elections

      https://www.wsj.com/articles/mueller-probe-might-have-go-dark-for-midterm-election-1525604400


    135. RIX
      136 | May 6, 2018 10:29 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      Who is Perkins Cole? Does anybody see the absurdity of Stormy and her disgusting attorney suing to be released from an agreement that they have already violated.?


    136. 137 | May 6, 2018 10:30 am

      @ AZfederalist:
      Obama’s will talk about how willing McCain was to cave in to the liberal agenda.


    137. RIX
      138 | May 6, 2018 10:34 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      Eagle, my above comment was. for you. Clicked the wrong account to reply to.


    138. 139 | May 6, 2018 11:00 am

      “the NRA creates fear for the gunstores by defaming blacks muslims and latinos“

      How do you respond to such idiocy?


    139. 140 | May 6, 2018 11:07 am

      right_wing2 wrote:

      “the NRA creates fear for the gunstores by defaming blacks muslims and latinos“

      How do you respond to such idiocy?

      You recognize it for the anti firearms Marxist agenda that it is.


    140. eaglesoars
      141 | May 6, 2018 11:09 am

      RIX wrote:

      Who is Perkins Cole?

      Perkins Coie is the law firm than Hillary campaign used to funnel payments to Fusion GPS. It’s buried in there on a lot of things.


    141. 142 | May 6, 2018 11:26 am

      @ doriangrey:
      But how do answer it? Explain that it’s a BS claim?


    142. eaglesoars
      143 | May 6, 2018 11:34 am

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ doriangrey:
      But how do answer it? Explain that it’s a BS claim?

      Excuse me for butting in, but it’s a straw man argument and you NEVER respond to it as tho it had merit – i.e., disproving it – you counter with a TRUTHFUL statement. As the one you noted implies racism, I would start with a history lesson about gun control and it’s racist roots. Try this:

      Jim Crow Laws Were the Foundation of Gun Control in America—and The Ku Klux Klan Was America’s First Gun Control Group

      The Racist Roots of Gun Control

      Read it. Memorize a few key points: in the infamous Dred Scott decision, U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice Roger B. Taney announced that free blacks were not citizens; if they were, he warned, free blacks would have the right “to keep and carry arms wherever they went.”

      https://www.encounterbooks.com/features/racist-roots-gun-control/


    143. Deplorable Bumr50
      144 | May 6, 2018 11:48 am


    144. 145 | May 6, 2018 11:57 am

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ doriangrey:
      But how do answer it? Explain that it’s a BS claim?

      That truly is the $64,000.00 dollar question since 90% of those you might be interested in enlightening posses both a profound desire and an vested interest in not being educated with regard to the truth.

      The History and mission statement of the NRA would be a good start were you dealing with honest rational people, however since you most likely are not there is little you can do.

      Remember, propaganda of this type is designed to produce fear and anxiety, thus eliminating the targets capacity for logical rational observation and thought on the subject of the propaganda.

      To fall victim of such propaganda, the target must already have certain predispositions towards uncertainly and fear regarding the subject matter. The propaganda must reinforce those feelings, (please note the use of the word “Feelings” here) of uncertainty and fear.

      Propaganda works by amplifying a psychological condition known as “Bias Conformation” in its intended targets. Take suppositional information that the target already has, and apply strong emotional leverage to that information biased in the direction of what the target already is uncertain or fearful of and repeat it while constantly increasing the urgency associated with said suppositional information.

      Suppositional information is data that are hypothetical in nature and may be assumed to be true or accurate based on opinions, previous experience, or personal background.

      The key here, is “May be assumed”. Factual data and empirical evidence sometimes are enough to overcome the conformation bias that propaganda reinforces, though tragically, it usually does not due primarily to the individuals personal “Feelings” and vested interests in not having their conformation bias disturbed.


    145. 146 | May 6, 2018 12:00 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Not butting in at all, very good answer to a very difficult question.


    146. RIX
      147 | May 6, 2018 1:02 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      Who is Perkins Cole?

      Perkins Coie is the law firm than Hillary campaign used to funnel payments to Fusion GPS. It’s buried in there on a lot of things.

      Aha! The firm is in Chicago, part of the Resistance.


    147. eaglesoars
      148 | May 6, 2018 1:15 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      Not butting in at all, very good answer to a very difficult question.

      thank you. your bit about suppositional data is critical, too

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:”

      This broke w/in the last hr or 2, heard it thru my nap fog on Fox. Nunes was NOT ignored. DOJ did respond with a letter. They read the letter on the air. It said in very polite legalese “Fuck you”.

      It’s really too bad Congress doesn’t have U.S. Federal Marshalls at its beck and call. It would be fun to watch Sessions and Rosenstein getting perp walked in cuffs from their backyard BBQs to jail


    148. Deplorable Bumr50
      149 | May 6, 2018 3:09 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      BBQs

      They’re probably at the same one.


    149. eaglesoars
      150 | May 6, 2018 3:26 pm

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:

      I would like to know what the consequences of holding anyone at DOJ in contempt actually are. Holder didn’t pay a fine, go to jail, lose his license, lose his job, nothing. As far as I can tell, it’s about as effective as a playground nah-nah-na-na-nah.


    150. RIX
      151 | May 6, 2018 3:34 pm

      Having to do with nothing. Anybody watch the morning news show shows? it was all about Stormy Daniels and
      little else. That includes Chris Wallace. He badgered Rudy , but treated that thing that represents Stormy much
      better. The worst is Jake Tapper, he is obsessed. I expected him to go all twelve year old boy and break
      into a chant “Boobiies, Boobies, Boobies…………” Ain’t no news no more.


    151. Possum
      152 | May 6, 2018 5:34 pm

      Dorian,

      Sent you a message on Facebook re Tesla.

      If I had your experience and in your situation I would give it a try,

      Regards,

      Chris


    152. Possum
      153 | May 6, 2018 7:00 pm

      I had a very interesting conversation in the parking lot at the apartment complex where I live.

      It was with a gentleman who is not a citizen of the United States of America, but he lives here.

      He knows me, and he knows Calo. Not being racist at all but out of 320 apartments in this complex I am the only pink one.

      When Calo visits she is the only blonde, glow in the dark even in the day person!

      My friend told me “This place is starting to become Mexico. Have you ever been to Mexico?”

      I said yes, and never again. He smiled…

      So, we now have a situation in Houston where legal immigrants ( Green card holders like myself ) are becoming concerned that our part of Houston is becoming like Mexico.

      Just think about that, a legal green card holding Mexican approaches a legal green card holding British person and starts talking about how shit is going downhill where we both live.

      We are both not citizens but we choose to reside here. We pay taxes, obey laws.

      And we both can see that the country we are guests in is turning into a shit hole due to illegals, drugs MS13 etc


    153. lobo91
      154 | May 6, 2018 7:14 pm

      @ Possum:

      That’s not uncommon. We see the same thing here in NM.

      The Dems keep trying to claim that Trump is lumping all immigrants in together, but most of the legal ones know it’s not true. They know those are the people they came here to get away from.


    154. 155 | May 6, 2018 7:26 pm

      Possum wrote:

      Dorian,

      Sent you a message on Facebook re Tesla.

      If I had your experience and in your situation I would give it a try,

      Regards,

      Chris

      I appreciate the thought. Though I do not know if any of my experience translates to Tesla. I can give you my email address and resume to forward to him if you think it might be advantageous to do so, but it seems to me that email message was more geared to you than me.


    155. 156 | May 6, 2018 7:29 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      Oh, and apologies for only just now responding to you. Its so ugly stinking hot here right now I’ve had everything shut down so that it doesn’t melt down. Just poking my head up every couple of hours or so to make sure the world didn’t disappear while I was hiding from the heat.


    156. lobo91
      157 | May 6, 2018 7:48 pm

      Since this thread is getting close to turning into a pumpkin, I posted a new one with links to all the speeches from the NRA convention in Dallas


    157. coldwarrior
      158 | May 6, 2018 8:06 pm

      @ lobo91:

      thanks!


    158. lobo91
      159 | May 6, 2018 8:08 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      It’s sort of become a tradition.

      BTW, I highly recommend watching Ted Cruz’s speech. Whatever you think about things he’s done in the past, he’s definitely in his element at the NRA


    159. coldwarrior
      160 | May 6, 2018 8:18 pm

      @ lobo91:
      will do.


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