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  • Friday Cigar Open, AVO Syncro Fogata

    by coldwarrior ( 83 Comments › )
    Filed under Friday Cigar at August 3rd, 2018 - 3:00 pm

    I sat down to do some work on my MS degree. SOme thunderstorm just passed and it’s a good afternoon to sit on the deck, watch the river go by, have a cigar, and do some erudite elucidations so I can get this BS class out of the way.

    This afternoon: AVO Syncro Fogata

    Fogata, meaning bonfire or campfire in Spanish, was the inspiration for today’s cigar which has its roots within the original Syncro line. Some changes were made to the blend which created a whole new cigar smoking experience. At it’s time of release the Senior Vice President of Global Marketing and Innovation said, “AVO Syncro Nicaragua Fogata delivers new frontiers in cigar experiences. Pulsing with the rhythm of Nicaragua’s more intense Esteli and Condega tobaccos and composed with the softer, creamier notes of our Dominican grown tobacco, aficionados will savor every note and be delighted by the fusion of wild complexity blended with unprecedented harmony.”

    Cigar Review: Avo Syncro Nicaragua Fogata
    Wrapper: Habano 2000 Clara (Ecuador)
    Binder: Negro San Andreas (Mexico)
    Filler: Esteli Ligero (Nicaragua), Condega Visus (Nicaragua), Yamasa Visus, Piloto and San Vicente Ligero (Dominican Republic)
    Length: 6″
    Ring Gauge: 54
    Size: Toro Tubo

    The Look: Packaged in 20 count boxes, the Fogata Toro Tubo is laid out in two rows of ten. The box is colorful with accents of orange, amber and red and once you open the box it it’s even more of an eye-popping experience. Quite simply, this might be one of the most beautiful tubes on the market. Inside the cigar the primary band features to Avo logo while a secondary band denotes Fogata. In the hand the wrapper is course with some thing veins and a subtle brindle coloring. The foot is spongy and the cigar has no soft spots.

    The Notes: Maybe it’s the color combination used on the band and boxes, but the cold draw has a citrus component that reminds me of tangerines with an underlying sweetness that has a subtle cocoa feeling to it. The aroma off the foot is cedar with a faint hint of cocoa powder.

    Once the cigar is toasted the first light some of the tangerine sweetness remains but as we move through the first third of the cigar it slowly slides toward the finish of the cigar. The primary flavor completed are cedar, vanilla, caramel and a touch of coffee. There is a lot going on with this cigar, and the retrohale gives the cigar an almost crème brûlée feel to it.

    The second third becomes less sweet and more meaty, with notes of charred streak and a hearty oak component as well. The coffee notes remain on the finish with a touch of cocoa and caramel. Every now and then as the second third comes to a close I’m treated to a touch of cinnamon and the retro hall has a touch of black pepper as well.

    As we finish the Fogata it still remains extremely complex even as the cigar becomes salty like you’ve reached the end of a bag of pretzels. There is still some oak that is joined by some nuttiness as the coffee note takes on more of an espresso feel to it. The finish of the cigar is a bit leathery, but it doesn’t detract from the experience at hand.

    The Finish: The Fogata is a cigar your don’t want to fuhgeddabout. Quite simply it is my favorite from the Avo line and one of the most complex cigars in Davidoff’s portfolio. It’s a great cigar to have for your golf bag, or in your humidor. I know I plan to smoke another one tonight, so thats 2 down in the box of 20 I purchased.

    Score: 93
    Price: $11.99 / $213.99

    I am halfway through this wonderful cigar and regret not getting a second box (i had a great deal!). The rest of the box are unwrapped and in my second humidor to rest awhile; that humidor is reserved for those special, not every-day cigars. This AVO Syncro Nicaragua clearly deserves to take a snooze in there with the other high quality cigars!

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    83 Responses to “Friday Cigar Open, AVO Syncro Fogata”
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    1. coldwarrior
      1 | August 3, 2018 4:04 pm

      https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/portland-rallies-protest-oregon/2018/08/03/id/875403/

      be careful what you ask for antifa…well, actually you are the fascists, good little brownshirts.


    2. eaglesoars
      2 | August 3, 2018 5:15 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      This time, Gibson changed the venue from a federal plaza outside U.S. District Court to a waterfront park so his supporters can carry concealed weapons as they demonstrate.

      bet he doesn’t get a permit


    3. rain of lead
      3 | August 3, 2018 6:05 pm

      here’s a song for Friday
      Halestorm is like 1-10 on the girls playlist right now
      gotta say they rock

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taanowedKoY


    4. rain of lead
      4 | August 3, 2018 6:13 pm

      Move along… move along… nothing to see here folks
      Las Vegas Sheriff Joe Lombardo Announces End To Mandalay Bay Massacre Investigation – No Motive Found…

      https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/08/03/las-vegas-sheriff-joe-lombardo-announces-end-to-mandalay-bay-massacre-investigation-no-motive-found/#more-152503


    5. rain of lead
      5 | August 3, 2018 6:36 pm

      y’all heard about this?
      From the WSJ, fallout over the recent #ExxonKnew lawsuit being dismissed.

      https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/08/03/sec-drops-probe-of-exxons-climate-change-disclosures/


    6. eaglesoars
      6 | August 3, 2018 6:42 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      I didn’t know the SEC had a probe going. But the lawsuit against Exxon (and some other oil companies) brought by the scum AG of New York got thrown out last month so I guess the SEC figured THAT was a dry well


    7. eaglesoars
      8 | August 3, 2018 7:08 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      It’s just a sugar rush, CW. Did you not get the memo?


    8. coldwarrior
      9 | August 3, 2018 7:16 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:

      It’s just a sugar rush, CW. Did you not get the memo?

      i dont understand economics, remember?


    9. lobo91
      10 | August 3, 2018 7:47 pm

      @ eaglesoars:


    10. lobo91
      11 | August 3, 2018 8:01 pm

      Brand new single released today, which will be featured in tonight’s episode of Wynonna Earp on SyFy:


    11. eaglesoars
      12 | August 3, 2018 8:13 pm

      wut?

      ————-

      Air Force remains silent after huge meteor hits near US military base

      NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory confirmed an object of unspecified size travelling at 24.4 kilometres per second struck earth in Greenland, just 43 kilometres north of an early missile warning Thule Air Base on the 25th of July, 2018.

      http://www.foxnews.com/science/2018/08/03/air-force-remains-silent-after-huge-meteor-hits-near-us-military-base.html

      A
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    12. 13 | August 3, 2018 8:23 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      A
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      I’ll just be sitting right over here —–> Not saying anything… Cause, I’m not sayin it was aliens…. But…


    13. rain of lead
      14 | August 3, 2018 8:38 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      if you were to say something…then…


    14. lobo91
      15 | August 3, 2018 9:12 pm

      Elderly Woman Forcibly Euthanized In The Netherlands

      One inherent consequence that so-called “Death with Dignity” advocates seem to ignore is the possibility that doctors and family members will pressure people into euthanasia or assisted suicide for convenience. A case in the Netherlands takes that one step further, as an elderly woman was euthanized against her will by family members eager to move on with their lives.

      According to LiveAction, the 74-year-old unidentified woman had been suffering dementia for some time and previously told people she would undergo assisted suicide if “the time was right.” As her dementia progressed, she never put in a request to die and had surpassed the point of giving her full consent. It was then that her doctor declared her to be “suffering intolerably” and proceeded to euthanize her. Here’s how the ordeal went down:

      When the doctor came in to euthanize her, the patient was not informed of what was going to happen to her, to ‘avoid unnecessary distress.’ She was given coffee with a sedative in it, but she refused to drink it — and then struggled as the doctor tried to kill her. She fought so fiercely that the doctor ordered her own family to physically hold her down, and she was forcibly euthanized.

      A panel had previously cleared the doctor of ethical violations by saying she “acted in good faith.” That decision was recently overturned, however, by the Regional Euthanasia Review Committees, which said the doctor’s actions were unethical and will be investigated along with five other similarly disturbing stories.


    15. lobo91
      16 | August 3, 2018 9:22 pm

      For any Joe Bonamassa fans out there, his website is having another half-price sale on digital downloads. Everything released prior to 2018.

      Offer ends at midnight tonight


    16. eaglesoars
      17 | August 3, 2018 10:31 pm

      @ lobo91:

      Oh, did you see what they’ve done in Denmark? Every fetus detected with Down’s Syndrome is aborted. They say “we’ve wiped out the disease”.

      Think about that one for a minute (if it takes that long)


    17. lobo91
      18 | August 3, 2018 10:36 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      I wasn’t aware that it was contagious…


    18. coldwarrior
      19 | August 3, 2018 11:12 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      I’ll just be sitting right over here —–> Not saying anything… Cause, I’m not sayin it was aliens…. But…

      it was aliens.


    19. eaglesoars
      20 | August 3, 2018 11:28 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      In all seriousness, I love new things and interesting times and all that. And if we ever find other sentient life in the universe, I’d be thrilled.

      As long as it doesn’t find us and come to stay. Nope. If they’re here, we’re probably prey/slaves/pets/zoo exhibits and I’m not playing. I suspect they’ve been visiting for awhile and that’s fine, just keep on driving, say ‘Hi’ to Mom for me.


    20. eaglesoars
      21 | August 4, 2018 12:11 am

      bedtime. nite.


    21. coldwarrior
      22 | August 4, 2018 1:38 am

      Another class finished….that was a long day finish it…wanted it out of the way, much writing, 19 total pages. Thank God for dragon voice recognition software!

      Yeah, its 0130, I work at 7pm…time for the traditional end of class celebration. A nice AJ Fernandez cigar and a double reposato tequila.

      Cheers!


    22. coldwarrior
      23 | August 4, 2018 2:33 am

      There is something to be said about a don Julio 1942 and an AJ Fernandez San Latano Oval.

      An hour of wonderful.


    23. 24 | August 4, 2018 8:54 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      I suspect they’ve been visiting for awhile and that’s fine, just keep on driving, say ‘Hi’ to Mom for me.

      Personally, I do believe that alien intelligence’s do exist, I just do not believe that they have ever visited us. For a human being, I apparently have an unusual grasp of really really big numbers. Something I attribute to my7 love of physics.

      What this means, is I understand cosmological numbers. As in, how many galaxy’s are in the universe, what the average distance between stars are, how many stars are in the average galaxy, how many planets are in each galaxy.

      These numbers are truly mind numbingly huge. For example, the 4.3 light years (27.3 trillion miles) between Sol (our sun) and Proxima Centauri (the closest star of us) is an anomaly. For our relative position in the Milkyway, it is unusually close to us. The average distance between stars excluding Proxima Centauri, is 22.7 light years.

      At the speed that Voyager 1 is traveling (47,000 mph) it will take Voyager 1, 75,000 years to reach Proxima Centauri. Based on the data gathered by the Kepler telescope, there are approximately 3 trillion planets in the Milkyway. Of those 3 trillion planets, over 30 billion of them are +/- 10 % of earth in size, mass, and distance from their star.

      According to the Ke3pler data, the average star has between 5 and 7 planets.

      There are over 1 Trillion Galaxies in the Universe that are observable from Earth. According to the math, only about 20% of the Galaxies in the Universe are visible or observable from earth.

      On a ranking of 1 to 10, the Milkyway comes in at 4 on the size scale. With between 400 and 600 Billion Stars in it. Andromeda on the other hand has around 1.4 Trillions stars in it, and it only ranks as a 5 on that scale. IC-1011 ranks as a 10, with around 300 Trillion Stars.

      The distances between galaxies, is in the hundreds of thousands to millions of of light years. 1 light year is approximately 5.7 trillion miles.

      When you take all of these variables into account, there is but one single inescapable conclusion. Yes, there probably (almost mathematically impossible for their not to be) intelligent aliens out there. However, regardless of how advanced their technology is, the odds of them stumbling across earth is orders of magnitude (as in 20 or 30 orders of magnitude) smaller than the odds of you sifting through every single grain of sand on earth, and finding the one single grain with your name written on it.

      This is simply because of the distances involved, and the number of planets involved. And this is even if we are (extremely unlikely as it is) talking about an intelligent alien species that resides within the Milkyway and not from another galaxy altogether.

      As I said, the distances and number of planets are numbers so staggeringly vast and huge that for them to have stumbled across us would reqire that a) the Milkyway be bursting at the seams with intelligence alien species and b) that one or more of those alien species be located within a few thousand light years of earth.

      This is the important part that I cannot stress enough. Were there any intelligent alien species with technology at our or a higher technology level within 1000 light years of earth, we would have discovered evidence of them long ago.

      Not the speculation posed by the likes of von Däniken, but real indisputable evidence. Contrary to what most people think, we humans have been emitting indisputably artificial electromagnetic energy for at least 300 years.

      This next part might surprise you. The Grand Banks Radio Telescope in Pennsylvania is powerful enough to pick up the EM radiation emitted by the most primitive of electric motors from over 250,000 light years away. It is so powerful, it could listen in on a cell phone conversation in the Andromeda Galaxy, over 2 million light years from us.

      The Grand Banks Radio Telescope has been eves dropping on the Milkyway for over 40 years and has not found a single artificially produced electromagnetic signal in that entire time. And before you say it, yes. The difference between an artificially produced electromagnetic signal and a naturally occurring one is as startlingly different as the difference between a firefly and a huge neon sign that says “Eat at Joe’s”.


    24. eaglesoars
      25 | August 4, 2018 9:27 am

      @ doriangrey:

      I know all that. Here’s my problem. Sightings. Way too many commercial / military pilots have seen them. Aussie posted a video that was breathtaking. I thought I kept it, but now, of course, I can’t find it.

      Have to go. Hubby is in the hospital and both dogs are sick. I think today is gonna suck. later.


    25. 26 | August 4, 2018 10:36 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      I know all that. Here’s my problem. Sightings. Way too many commercial / military pilots have seen them. Aussie posted a video that was breathtaking.

      Given some of the DARPA stuff I worked on, I am inclined to believe those few sighting that are unexplained, are only unexplained because the Military refuses to acknowledge what they are. (whose military is up for grabs, but mostly I would say the US military)

      Yes, whatever you realistically think we are capable of, we are actually 30 maybe 40 years more advanced than that. When I say, 30 to 40 years more advanced, think the difference between a PC in 1990 and today or a Cell phone in 1990 and today.

      Not, Space ships capable of going to Proxima Centauri and back in a week advanced. But probably able to make it to Mars in a month if they really decided it was a priority. Though quiet honestly, I really wouldn’t rule the Proxima Centauri trip entirely out.

      The technology required to go to Proxima Centauri and back in a week probably doesn’t exist yet, but be certain of this. The theoretical physics of how to do so most assuredly do exist.

      There have been hints dropped over the last decade or so that many of the required technologies are actually in development and are way more advanced than most people realize.

      For example. A series of experiments were conducted about 8 years ago between researchers at MIT and CalTech, where it was discovered that spinning a gyroscope at extremely high velocities in a near absolute zero environment produced artificial gravity waves.

      Other similar experiments suggested that should you place those gyroscopes in a rotating cylinder with cascading magnetic fields, you create something similar to a Cavity magnetron except that instead of producing coherent microwaves what you produce are coherent graviton waves.

      The ability to generate coherent graviton waves means the ability to warp space. i.e. Star Trek Warp drive. Miguel Alcubierre produced the mathematical proof for this way back in 1994. In 2007 physicists H. David Froning Jr and Robert L. Roach produced mathematical proof that Alcubierre wqarp drive concept could be done at orders of magnitude lower energy levels than Alcubierre’s original equations required. Energy levels that we currently are approaching capable of producing.

      So, while I seriously doubt there is an actual prototype of the Alcubierre-Froning Warp Drive being tested right now, its also not entirely out of the question technologically speaking. In fact, its far more probable that we are testing a Alcubierre-Froning Warp Drive than that those unexplained sighting are aliens.


    26. 27 | August 4, 2018 10:51 am

      @ doriangrey:

      Oh, and just as a side note, The theoretical maximum speed of a ship with a Alcubierre-Froning Warp Drive is 1 x 10^57 times the speed of light. That is fast enough to go from light horizon to light horizon, a distance of 90 Billion light years, in slightly over 1 hour. Fast enough to go anywhere in the visible universe in just over an hour. That still however leaves over 1 trillion galaxies to choose from and 1 x 10^1083 (that’s a 1 with 1083 zeros behind it), possible earth like planets to visit.

      That 1 x 10^1083 possible earth like planets (not all the other planets either, mind you, just the ones that are +/- 10% of earth’s size, mass and distance from their host star) is why it is so profoundly unlikely that any alien species has ever visited earth.


    27. 28 | August 4, 2018 10:56 am

      doriangrey wrote:

      That 1 x 10^1083 possible earth like planets (not all the other planets either, mind you, just the ones that are +/- 10% of earth’s size, mass and distance from their host star) is why it is so profoundly unlikely that any alien species has ever visited earth.

      Oh, and just to put that into perspective, the odd’s of you winning the PowerBall are 1 in 250 million. That’s 1 x 2.5^6. The odds of you winning the PowerBall 1000 times in a row are a mere 1 x 10^27.


    28. RIX
      29 | August 4, 2018 11:59 am

      Good morning. My cousin just got back from a cruise that had a port of call in Havana.
      He brought me some cigars. Not as good as I remember, lot’s better from Latin America, and here.
      Just the way it struck me..


    29. eaglesoars
      30 | August 4, 2018 12:03 pm

      I’m stuck. Got the girls to daycamp, was going to visit Hubby but he called and said they’re releasing him. Then he called, sudden problems, they’re not releasing him, don’t come, more tests, blah blah. They won’t tell him anything, they won’t tell me anything.

      He went in Thurs morning for a 15 minute procedure – insert a wire into a ventricle to synchronize the beat. next thing, collapsed lung. Stick a tube in. Stick another tube in. How badly can they fuck this up?

      @ doriangrey:

      The idea that all of these sightings are of objects that originate on earth is a very practical one, especially given the numbers you and so many others cite. It’s also comforting for people like me who are fundamentally terrified at the thought of encountering sentient alien life forms. BUT. what are the chances that something so profound could be kept secret for so long? And, given how everybody spies on everybody else, and not all the spies are nation-states but mercenary types, etc., the odds of everybody keeping their mouths shut are about the same as you note for me winning Powerball 1000 times. And really, they can’t disappear EVERYBODY


    30. AZfederalist
      31 | August 4, 2018 12:04 pm

      RIX wrote:

      He brought me some cigars. Not as good as I remember, lot’s better from Latin America, and here.
      Just the way it struck me..

      The communists have had over 50 years to ruin that as well.


    31. RIX
      32 | August 4, 2018 12:11 pm

      https://mobile.twitter.com/BevHillsAntifa7/status/1025452071279976448/video/1
      @ Twitchy
      Jim Acosta set to sensitive angst filled music this is brilliant.


    32. RIX
      33 | August 4, 2018 12:12 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      He brought me some cigars. Not as good as I remember, lot’s better from Latin America, and here.
      Just the way it struck me..

      The communists have had over 50 years to ruin that as well.

      Yup ,they efed up everything.


    33. RIX
      34 | August 4, 2018 12:18 pm

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/congolese-immigrant-who-shut-down-statue-of-liberty-trolls-melania-trump-chants-you-motherfkers-you-kkk-you-fascist-usa-outside-court/
      @ Gateway Pundit
      In case you have not seen this. Another Immigrant here to have a better life and contributr to the nation that
      she loves ,America. /////////////////


    34. eaglesoars
      35 | August 4, 2018 12:31 pm

      RIX wrote:

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/congolese-immigrant-who-shut-down-statue-of-liberty-trolls-melania-trump-chants-you-motherfkers-you-kkk-you-fascist-usa-outside-court/
      @ Gateway Pundit
      In case you have not seen this. Another Immigrant here to have a better life and contributr to the nation that
      she loves ,America. /////////////////

      I saw this on Fox this morning.

      why are people giving this woman any air time? suffocate her with indifference.


    35. lobo91
      36 | August 4, 2018 12:54 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      why are people giving this woman any air time? suffocate her with indifference.

      Or a plastic bag

      Whatever


    36. 37 | August 4, 2018 1:40 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      If Kelly Johnson could design the Blackbird in the 1960’s, and aircraft that still holds speed records, what could they be developing at the ‘Skunk Works’ today?


    37. lobo91
      38 | August 4, 2018 1:48 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      If Kelly Johnson could design the Blackbird in the 1960’s, and aircraft that still holds speed records, what could they be developing at the ‘Skunk Works’ today?

      The Blackbird was designed in the late ’50s, actually. It went into production in the early ’60s


    38. eaglesoars
      39 | August 4, 2018 1:48 pm

      @ right_wing2:

      lots of cool stuff I hope.

      Typical Trump – ‘Space Force’ – to dress it up as a rah-rah American thing – but China is not neglecting the militarization of space and they are a totalitarian power. We cannot cede that battle space and Trump is seeing to it that we won’t.


    39. eaglesoars
      40 | August 4, 2018 1:58 pm

      Western man towers over the rest of the world in ways so large as to be almost inexpressible. It’s Western exploration, science and conquest that have revealed the world to itself. Other races feel like subjects of Western power long after colonialism, imperialism, and slavery have disappeared.

      The charge of racism puzzles whites who feel not hostility, but only baffled good will, because they don’t grasp what it really means: humiliation.

      The white man presents an image of superiority even when he isn’t conscious of it.

      And superiority excites envy.

      Destroying white civilization is the inmost desire of the league of designated victims we call ‘minorities’.

      Joe Sobran


    40. 41 | August 4, 2018 2:24 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      If Kelly Johnson could design the Blackbird in the 1960’s, and aircraft that still holds speed records, what could they be developing at the ‘Skunk Works’ today?

      The Blackbird was designed in the late ’50s, actually. It went into production in the early ’60s

      Yes, designed with slide-rules and old fashioned paper. Not computers which can automatically take material strengths and weaknesses into account. Somewhere I have an algorithm that calculates the x,y,z strength and weakness of carbon fiber.

      We used it when designing Carter Penley’s carbon fiber golf shafts. That algorithm was plugged into Solidworks for the prototyping of Penley’s newest golf shafts. Once we did that, it showed us exactly how to align the individual carbon fiber sheets to achieve the strength and flexibility we desired. It also told us exactly where our failure points would be and how much force was required for a failure.

      Computers will not design incredible things for you, but if you know what you are doing and what you want to design, they can be amazingly powerful tools for designing things that just a couple of decades ago seemed impossible to build, let alone imagine.


    41. RIX
      42 | August 4, 2018 5:35 pm

      peaglesoars wrote:p

      RIX wrote:

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/congolese-immigrant-who-shut-down-statue-of-liberty-trolls-melania-trump-chants-you-motherfkers-you-kkk-you-fascist-usa-outside-court/
      @ Gateway Pundit
      In case you have not seen this. Another Immigrant here to have a better life and contributr to the nation that
      she loves ,America. /////////////////

      I saw this on Fox this morning.

      why are people giving this woman any air time? suffocate her with indifference.

      Yeah, she is a vile creature.


    42. Aussie Infidel
      43 | August 4, 2018 7:54 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:

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      I’ll just be sitting right over here —–> Not saying anything… Cause, I’m not sayin it was aliens…. But…

      I knew those little grey bastards were out to get us!

      🙂


    43. Aussie Infidel
      44 | August 4, 2018 8:38 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ doriangrey:

      The idea that all of these sightings are of objects that originate on earth is a very practical one, especially given the numbers you and so many others cite. It’s also comforting for people like me who are fundamentally terrified at the thought of encountering sentient alien life forms. BUT. what are the chances that something so profound could be kept secret for so long? And, given how everybody spies on everybody else, and not all the spies are nation-states but mercenary types, etc., the odds of everybody keeping their mouths shut are about the same as you note for me winning Powerball 1000 times. And really, they can’t disappear EVERYBODY

      Yup Eagles I don’t buy it either. Hughes kept the Glomer Explorer top secret for about 5 years by constructing a cover story that had as it’s task the exploitation of Manganese nodules from the ocean floor. When the actual task was the recovery of a Soviet nuclear submarine or at least its nuclear tipped torpedoes. 5 years of 100% security for over 10,000 designers and workers was a big ask and of course it eventually leaked out.

      Now I saw my UFO back in the late 1970s whilst flying a F-27 at night between two sheets of 8/8 cloud (3000 feet and another at 15,000 feet). We had it visual for over 10 minutes at 3 Nm north of our aircraft, confirmed by two independent radars. It reacted to our changes in course and eventually changed position from off our starboard quarter to on our nose. It accelerated towards us just missing us and covering the 3 Nm in 2 seconds and Auckland Radar lost it at 200 Nm South over Lake Taupo just 28 seconds later. Do the math mate on the G s to accelerate that fast as well as the velocity to travel 200Nm in 28 seconds. There was NO sonic boom either as it crossed overhead of our cockpit nor reports of sonic booms from the ground.

      Now tell me that it was just DARPA fooling around on what was just a normal evening just South of Auckland NZ at 2100 hours on a Sunday night !

      The object didn’t answer any of our radio transmissions nor those of Auckland Radar and believe me we tried every frequency we had. It was Unidentified.

      The object was flying in our airspace and there was NO other traffic anywhere in that airspace except our aircraft. We tried turning away from it and it formatted on us for about 2 minutes so we gingerly turned back towards it and it held station with us at 3 Nm which was confirmed by Auckland Radar. We initially assumed that it was some sort of reflection so we turned off ALL our lights but it was still there glowing bright orange. At top of decent as we started on down it suddenly whipped around onto our nose in 2-3 seconds and it was at that time that I fired up my own aircraft weather radar and got a solid radar return at 3 Nm ahead confirmed by Auckland Radar. So the object was actually flying in our airspace

      The object was captured on two independent radars (Auckland Radar as well as my aircraft weather radar that I tweaked on the 7 Nm scale and manipulated the beam to pick up a very solid return at 3 Nm ahead at the same time that Auckland radar also had it at 3 Nm on our nose.

      There is no argument that the object could be categorised as a UFO.

      Then there was the extraordinary performance timed by both myself and confirmed bye radio with Auckland Radar.

      Now tell me again mate the chances that it was just DARPA fooling about in the late 1970s on a Sunday night at the bottom of the Earth in NZ !

      🙂


    44. eaglesoars
      45 | August 4, 2018 8:59 pm

      @ doriangrey:
      @ Aussie Infidel:

      just a thought. we speak about this as tho whatever it is we’re sighting is somehow limited to the same 4 dimensions we find ourselves in. If they can inhabit/manipulate more, perhaps it wouldn’t take a gigunda amount of time to traverse a gigunda number of light years.


    45. Aussie Infidel
      46 | August 4, 2018 9:02 pm

      Bloody ‘greys’ playing silly buggers with my aircraft when I was just flying along minding my own business.

      🙂

      I would have been really pissed off if they had run into me when they buzzed over my cockpit doing 3000 m ^s-1
      averaging 11,000 Nm/Hr whilst pulling half a million Gs

      Bloody show off greys.

      I’d Really REALLY love to have a fly of one of those craft.

      🙂


    46. Aussie Infidel
      47 | August 4, 2018 9:08 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ doriangrey:
      @ Aussie Infidel:

      just a thought. we speak about this as tho whatever it is we’re sighting is somehow limited to the same 4 dimensions we find ourselves in. If they can inhabit/manipulate more, perhaps it wouldn’t take a gigunda amount of time to traverse a gigunda number of light years.

      Agreed.

      They sure as hell have sorted out the inertia problem !

      Otherwise out smart arsed little grey would be a smear on the rear bulkhead …. if the rear bulkhead wasn’t vaporised already!

      With manipulation of spacetime itself distance loses its relevance and so does gravity and inertia…. especially inertia.

      The small grey checklist must make a BIG deal of insuring that the inertial dampeners are engaged BEFORE the power plant is turned on!

      🙂


    47. Aussie Infidel
      48 | August 4, 2018 9:10 pm

      How’s the hubby Eagles?

      You must be worried sick girl!


    48. eaglesoars
      49 | August 4, 2018 9:15 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      How’s the hubby Eagles?

      You must be worried sick girl!

      he’s home. no, I wasn’t worried, it was nothing serious, just a tedious hassle. he’s fine. I’ve seen serious, this wasn’t it.


    49. Aussie Infidel
      50 | August 4, 2018 9:37 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Well that’s great

      🙂


    50. eaglesoars
      51 | August 4, 2018 10:01 pm

      Maduro survived an assassination attempt. By drone. Drones have to be the nightmare of every security agency on the planet

      https://pjmedia.com/trending/venezuelan-president-nicolas-maduro-survives-apparent-assassination-attempt/


    51. AZfederalist
      52 | August 4, 2018 10:05 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Maduro survived an assassination attempt. By drone. Drones have to be the nightmare of every security agency on the planet

      https://pjmedia.com/trending/venezuelan-president-nicolas-maduro-survives-apparent-assassination-attempt/

      Not sure that it’s a good thing he survived.

      Yes, you are correct, drones are a serious concern for security forces.


    52. eaglesoars
      53 | August 4, 2018 10:22 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      Not sure that it’s a good thing he survived.

      at this point I’m not sure it matters who is head honcho. Nobody’s getting enough food to fight anyway


    53. AZfederalist
      54 | August 4, 2018 10:44 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      at this point I’m not sure it matters who is head honcho. Nobody’s getting enough food to fight anyway

      If another commie takes his place, nothing will change. They really screwed up a country that is so rich in resources.


    54. lobo91
      55 | August 4, 2018 11:08 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      My guess is that it was a false flag operation, done by his own people.

      Now he can justify whatever crackdowns he likes.


    55. eaglesoars
      56 | August 4, 2018 11:10 pm

      @ lobo91:

      is there something he needs to crack down on? I wasn’t aware there was any unrest, people are too busy trying to find food and medicine


    56. Aussie Infidel
      57 | August 5, 2018 12:45 am

      AZfederalist wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Maduro survived an assassination attempt. By drone. Drones have to be the nightmare of every security agency on the planet

      https://pjmedia.com/trending/venezuelan-president-nicolas-maduro-survives-apparent-assassination-attempt/

      Not sure that it’s a good thing he survived.

      Yes, you are correct, drones are a serious concern for security forces.

      The Israelis seem to have had a ‘fix’ for drones for quite some time now. It’s just a matter of will to get these threats under control.

      🙂


    57. rain of lead
      58 | August 5, 2018 6:20 am

      morning y’all


    58. lobo91
      59 | August 5, 2018 10:23 am

      The President of Venezuela has called on Donald Trump to help him fight ‘terrorist groups’ after blaming an apparent assassination attempt using explosives-rigged drones on ‘far-right’ exiles from his poverty-stricken regime living in the US and Colombia.

      Nicolas Maduro was addressing a military parade in Caracas on live TV this Saturday when he suddenly halted and looked to the sky after hearing an explosion. A terrified expression crossed his face before he and his wife Cilia Flores were swamped with aides carrying bulletproof shields. They both escaped uninjured.

      The visibly shaken head of state said he saw a ‘flying device’ that exploded before his eyes but no drones appeared to be captured in footage of the incident.

      ‘This was an attempt to kill me,’ the 55-year-old said later in an impassioned retelling of the events, before promising a crackdown of his rivals as he vowed to bring down those responsible, ‘no matter who falls’.

      He added: ‘They have tried to assassinate me and everything points to the Venezuelan ultra-right in alliance with the Colombian far right and that the name of [Columbian President] Juan Manuel Santos is behind this attack.’

      As I was saying…


    59. eaglesoars
      60 | August 5, 2018 10:55 am

      @ lobo91:

      VENEZUELANS Say Maduro Assassination Attempt Was Staged “Theatrics” — Local Firemen Say It was Cooking Gas Explosion

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/venezuelans-say-madura-assassination-attempt-was-staged-theatrics-local-firemen-say-it-was-cooking-gas-explosion/

      so what is war with Colombia going to do for this loser?


    60. lobo91
      61 | August 5, 2018 11:16 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      so what is war with Colombia going to do for this loser?

      Give him someone else to blame his failures on.

      Dictatorship 101


    61. eaglesoars
      62 | August 5, 2018 11:32 am

      @ lobo91:

      I predict a military coup


    62. Buckeye Abroad
      63 | August 5, 2018 2:10 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      He can justify eliminating his political opposition just like Erdogan and tighten his grip. He is in a corner and if he cannot pull it off, he will be running to Turkey where he directed the remaining Venezuelan gold reserve– defaulting instead of paying foreign creditors. The Chavez family has already over $4 billion in offshore accounts, so Maduro is just picking the bones.


    63. eaglesoars
      64 | August 5, 2018 3:03 pm

      Buckeye Abroad wrote:

      Turkey where he directed the remaining Venezuelan gold reserve–

      Ha! I missed that part! Actually, I’ve heard that Chavez’s daughter on her own somehow ended up with SIX billion. But who’s counting……………


    64. AZfederalist
      65 | August 5, 2018 4:36 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Actually, I’ve heard that Chavez’s daughter on her own somehow ended up with SIX billion.

      Because, as leaders of the people and watching out for their interests, it is only right that the people so selflessly giving should be rewarded for those efforts to keep the people equal and the running dog capitalists at bay.

      /s


    65. rain of lead
      66 | August 5, 2018 6:05 pm

      ahhh… the first beer in a frosted mug after work
      nothing better


    66. rain of lead
      67 | August 5, 2018 6:09 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      even if it is a watered down fizzy yellow mass produced type


    67. Possum
      69 | August 5, 2018 8:07 pm

      Just sitting here quietly and thinking about going to this event. It is 8.4 miles from my home.

      https://twitter.com/w_terrence/status/1026168506344239104

      https://www.terrencekwilliams.com/tour


    68. AZfederalist
      70 | August 5, 2018 8:14 pm

      Possum wrote:

      Just sitting here quietly and thinking about going to this event. It is 8.4 miles from my home.

      Looks like it could be a good time.


    69. coldwarrior
      71 | August 5, 2018 8:24 pm

      @ rain of lead:
      In the salt mines….I’d love a beer.


    70. eaglesoars
      72 | August 5, 2018 8:40 pm

      Well, well, well. A dynasty in the making

      Hamza bin Laden has married daughter of lead 9/11 hijacker, say family

      that would be Osama’s surviving son. Who, I suspect, will not survive much longer as he’s stated he’s out to avenge Daddy.

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/05/hamza-bin-laden-marries-daughter-of-911-hijacker-mohammed-atta


    71. eaglesoars
      73 | August 5, 2018 8:45 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      except, to the best of my knowledge, Atta never married.


    72. rain of lead
      74 | August 5, 2018 9:45 pm

      @ Possum:

      go
      he seems great

      FRIED CHICKEN GOFUND ME! MY RESPONSE TO THE LADY WHO WENT OFF ON ME BECAUSE OF A FRIED CHICKEN GO Fundme

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll8OnB3CSLQ


    73. RIX
      75 | August 5, 2018 9:54 pm

      https://www.weaselzippers.us/392832-google-declares-angela-merkel-leader-of-the-free-world/
      @ WZ
      You probably think that the lLeader of the Free World is the President of the United States.
      Stop being silly, It’sAngela Merkel! Must because Trump is an orange ogre or something.
      These people are idiots.


    74. eaglesoars
      76 | August 5, 2018 10:08 pm

      @ RIX:

      that’s Google trying to suck up to the EU


    75. 77 | August 5, 2018 11:06 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Which is why Google isn’t used much on my computer.


    76. eaglesoars
      78 | August 5, 2018 11:52 pm

      I’m watching the Pamela Anderson interview. I’m really disappointed. She is BORING.


    77. eaglesoars
      79 | August 6, 2018 12:04 am

      Before I turn in, wanted to point this out. It’s not minor. That POS Judge Bates who keeps ordering Trump to let everybody in has apparently not read – or not respected – the Constitution.

      A federal judge on Friday ordered a total restart of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program

      the lower federal courts are entirely creations of Congress, and thus subordinate to it. And they certainly have no authority over the executive branch, other than that which they have aggrandized unto themselves via Marbury v. Madison and other rulings of dubious constitutionality. The notion that the three enumerated branches of the federal government are “co-equal” is a polite fiction to disguise the fact that the Supreme Court (Article Three) is the last and least of them, and can be stripped of all jurisdiction except its enumerated powers any time Congress so ordains.

      Trump should ignore the order. Let’s see how many divisions Bates can rustle up.

      https://pjmedia.com/michaelwalsh/how-many-divisions-does-judge-bates-command/

      nite


    78. eaglesoars
      80 | August 6, 2018 9:57 am

      Crimeny, all you people still asleep?

      I don’t want to hear any more crap about how Trump’s tariff game with China can’t work either

      ———————–

      After a meeting on July 31, the Politburo, a top decision-making body comprising China’s 25 most senior leaders, issued a statement saying China’s economy maintained steady growth with good momentum in the first half of 2018. However, it now “faces some new problems and challenges,” the body acknowledged.

      More precisely, according to Xinhua, which carried the statement, the country’s gross domestic product (GDP) growth stayed within the range of 6.7 to 6.9% for 12 straight quarters. “But a slight weakening was spotted in June in industrial output and investment, and worries have been on the rise that escalating trade tensions could bite into the economy in the future.”

      http://www.atimes.com/chinas-new-woes-unravel-xis-personality-cult/


    79. eaglesoars
      81 | August 6, 2018 10:28 am

      well, um………

      Largest Voting Machine Vendor in US Admits Its Systems Had Remote-Access Software Installed

      https://prepareforchange.net/2018/08/04/largest-voting-machine-vendor-in-us-admits-its-systems-had-remote-access-software-installed/


    80. coldwarrior
      82 | August 6, 2018 11:18 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Crimeny, all you people still asleep?

      comin off of night shift…


    81. coldwarrior
      83 | August 6, 2018 11:43 am

      new thread


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