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  • The Trump Curse

    by coldwarrior ( 122 Comments › )
    Filed under Donald Trump, Open thread at July 30th, 2018 - 10:26 am

    Let’s pick up where we left off, from eaglesoars:

    https://www.blogmocracy.com/2018/07/27/secretary-of-state-pompeo-burns-the-burners/#comment-15039

    94 | July 29, 2018 11:36 pm

    I’m not the suspicious type (but UFOs are real) but I swear there really is a Trump Curse. That recording Michael Cohen made of Trump that the media’s been playing over and over? Did you catch that Cohen also recorded calls with journalists? I gather that the Feds had to share what they collected with Rudy Guiliani as Trump’s lawyer and he’s out there yelling ‘short hairs’ and nobody is picking up on it.

    At 3:25-3:35 in video, Giuliani discusses Cohen’s surreptitious taping of CNN’s Chris Cuomo, a two-hour recording, to which Giuliani now has access. THEN Giuliani says: “He did that at least four other times.”

    Or was this all a set-up to nail these journalists?

    Either way, I like a man who fights back hard and doesn’t roll over. Look, Trump became the most successful rel estate developer in the toughest market in the world. He is no dummy. He’s used to dealing with the mob, unions, city hall, and other hard-assed New Yorkers.

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    1. coldwarrior
      1 | July 30, 2018 10:29 am

      92 | July 29, 2018 9:50 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      Have you had a chance to check out the video I posted above?

      I’m constantly amazed by the number of really talented young women who are turning up in the blues/roots rock genres these days.

      Bonus points for the lap steel guitar, too.

      I have and it makes me happy. anytime its not all auto-tuned song and dance and the musicians are…well, MUSICIANS, it does make me happy, perhaps music is not quite dead yet.


    2. coldwarrior
      2 | July 30, 2018 10:34 am

      liberalism and nevertrumpism are both mental illnesses.

      http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/07/29/us-therapists-see-increase-patients-trump-anxiety-disorder


    3. eaglesoars
      3 | July 30, 2018 1:12 pm

      CW:

      Or was this all a set-up to nail these journalists?

      it may have been blackmail insurance on Cohen’s part, as apparently his less-than-meticulous tax record keeping was well known. I somehow think Trump was too busy to sit down with this sleaze bag and plot phone call strategy.

      And this:

      liberalism and nevertrumpism are both mental illnesses

      Did you catch that the article notes almost all of these patients have at least one parent with a diagnosed personality disorder? Hubby was saying how shocked he is that all of a sudden so many people have gone bat shit crazy. Well, it wasn’t all of a sudden, they’ve always been bat shit crazy. It’s just that right now the culture has given them permission to exhibit it in this particular form. Not only do they not get the bat shit crazy label, a large portion of society gives them the ‘more virtuous/sensitive than thou’ imprimatur. Win/win.


    4. RIX
      4 | July 30, 2018 1:30 pm

      Whether or not they realize it Trump owns the left. He can create mass hysteria with one tweet.


    5. lobo91
      5 | July 30, 2018 2:31 pm


    6. coldwarrior
      6 | July 30, 2018 3:30 pm

      @ RIX:
      Rent free, baby!!!


    7. 7 | July 30, 2018 6:13 pm

      Medicare for all” could cost as much is $32 trillion.

      https://www.weaselzippers.us/392350-report-medicare-for-all-has-a-32-trillion-price-tag/


    8. lobo91
      8 | July 30, 2018 7:51 pm

      @ right_wing2:

      Never mind the fact that that’s more than the entire discretionary budget


    9. lobo91
      9 | July 30, 2018 7:52 pm

      Bill Kristol Not Ruling Out Running For President In 2020

      Bill Kristol, the former editor-in-chief of The Weekly Standard, is considering challenging President Donald Trump in the 2020 Republican primary.

      Kristol, who is consistently one of the most vocal anti-Trump Republicans, has been considering a run for months, a source familiar with Kristol’s thinking told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

      Kristol, who remains an editor-at-large for the Standard, said he has no plans to run but declined to rule it out when asked by TheDCNF.

      “No plans to run. But I’m randomly in Boston today, and happen to have had lunch with someone who does a lot of work in New Hampshire,” Kristol wrote in an email. “As he’d say, ‘Ya nevah know.’”


    10. 10 | July 30, 2018 8:09 pm

      @ lobo91:
      BS Bernie, of course, claims those numbers aren’t anywhere close to accurate, and blames the Koch brothers for ‘lies’. He claimed that if the rest of the world can provide free healthcare for less money, then so can we.

      I’d love to see what kind of numbers he’d come up with.


    11. lobo91
      11 | July 30, 2018 8:12 pm

      @ right_wing2:

      He claimed that if the rest of the world can provide free healthcare for less money, then so can we.

      He’s right, of course. All we have to do is adopt their standard of care.


    12. lobo91
      12 | July 30, 2018 8:15 pm

      Turn the TV on
      Let’s watch a good show
      Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John
      See how the gospel goes

      In a getaway car
      There’s lots of bad guys
      Jesus Christ Superstar
      He’s got the power to baptize

      When God closes a door
      God leads you up the stairs
      Leave your earthly cares
      On the second floor

      When God cracks a couple skulls
      God cracks a couple more
      His plate is full
      On the second floor

      The Virgin Mother and the Babylon whore
      Pick ’em off one by one
      Soap opera Holy War
      All the sinners invoke
      An act of treason
      The mystery is unsolved
      Until the second season

      When God closes a door
      God leads you up the stairs
      Leave your earthly cares
      On the second floor

      When God cracks a couple skulls
      God cracks a couple more
      His plate is full
      On the second floor

      People out of Mecca
      Can’t seem to take a joke
      They’re shootin’ up Paris
      They’re blowin’ that smoke
      I’m gonna sing Satanic verses
      In a stubborn land
      I’m gonna blasphemy and blasphemy
      Just because I can

      Oh, my God
      Oh, my God
      Oh, my God
      On the second floor

      When God closes a door
      God leads you up the stairs
      Leave your earthly cares
      On the second floor


    13. Aussie Infidel
      13 | July 30, 2018 8:21 pm

      @ lobo91:
      … and learn to0 wait in lines for care … and die whilst waiting in many cases!

      You get what you pay for is a good rule in most cases !

      🙂

      … oh and EVERYONE gets to pay tax. No more of the top 10% pay 70% 0f taxes schtick. No write offs for mortgage payments for you and if you want timely medical care you pay for it TWICE, once as taxes and once as private insurance cover.


    14. eaglesoars
      14 | July 30, 2018 8:21 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      Bill Kristol, the former editor-in-chief of The Weekly Standard, is considering challenging President Donald Trump in the 2020 Republican primary.

      I know God loves me, but I’m pretty sure He doesn’t love me THAT much


    15. coldwarrior
      15 | July 30, 2018 8:27 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      How long till Kristol starts throwing around the anti-semite label. You know it’s coming


    16. eaglesoars
      16 | July 30, 2018 8:43 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      How long till Kristol starts throwing around the anti-semite label. You know it’s coming

      It would be fun to see his evidence. Embassy in Jerusalem, Niki at the U.N. sticking it to the Palestinians,etc. Besides, Kristol’s brand of J Street Judaism doesn’t translate too well beyond K Street.


    17. eaglesoars
      17 | July 30, 2018 8:49 pm

      Bob Woodward to detail ‘harrowing life’ inside Trump White House in new book

      The book “reveals in unprecedented detail the harrowing life inside President Donald Trump’s White House and precisely how he makes decisions on major foreign and domestic policies,” according to Amazon….Woodward’s account is based on “hundreds of hours of interviews with firsthand sources, meeting notes, personal diaries, files and documents.”

      The book’s release date comes less than two months before Election Day.

      http://thehill.com/homenews/media/399606-bob-woodward-to-detail-harrowing-life-inside-trump-white-house-in-new-book

      And I’ll bet every one of those sources is anonymous


    18. AZfederalist
      18 | July 30, 2018 9:29 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      BS Bernie, of course, claims those numbers aren’t anywhere close to accurate,

      Well, I’d say he’s right about that. You need to take the numbers and multiply them by 10 to get what it will really cost by the time all is said and done. That, or decrease the “benefits” by a factor of 10. Either way.


    19. AZfederalist
      19 | July 30, 2018 9:48 pm

      Somebody just posted this on WZ:

      puhiawa • 2 minutes ago
      Today it was revealed the Feds subtracted their estimated inflation from the raw GDP figure of 5.4% to get the current 4.1%. I am skeptical. I do not remember a single such adjustment under Obama , although inflation was running at about 2.1% per year, which coincidentally was Obama’s average growth in GDP. Trump needs to put Kudlow and Munchin on this.

      Anybody here (Eagle or Cold) know anything about this?


    20. eaglesoars
      20 | July 30, 2018 10:08 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      CW can double check me but I think there’s a term called ‘the real GDP’ which is GDP adjusted for inflation. How/what ‘adjusted’ means, I don’t know. Be that as it may, I think it unlikely the Fed would play fast and lose with such a fundamental number as that would imperil confidence. No confidence, no market, so I suspect if they did anything it was standard operating procedure.


    21. AZfederalist
      21 | July 30, 2018 10:13 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Thanks. I would hope you are correct, messing with a major market indicator would seem to be ill-advised.

      /Unless someone is trying to tank the market


    22. eaglesoars
      22 | July 30, 2018 10:33 pm

      found it

      ———-

      Real Gross Domestic Product (real GDP) is a macroeconomic measure of the value of economic output adjusted for price changes (i.e., inflation or deflation).[1] This adjustment transforms the money-value measure, nominal GDP, into an index for quantity of total output. Although GDP is total output, it is primarily useful because it closely approximates the total spending: the sum of consumer spending, investment made by industry, excess of exports over imports, and government spending. Due to inflation, GDP increases and does not actually reflect the true growth in an economy. That is why the GDP must be divided by the inflation rate (raised to the power of units of time in which the rate is measured) to get the growth of the real GDP. Different organizations use different types of ‘Real GDP’ measures, ….

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_gross_domestic_product


    23. 23 | July 30, 2018 10:44 pm

      @ AZfederalist:
      Somewhere I’ve seen a comparison between the expected costs of Social Security, Medicare etc after a certain amount of time and the actual cost.


    24. lobo91
      24 | July 30, 2018 10:53 pm

      Before there was Larkin Poe, there was The Lovell Sisters. Rebecca (playing the mandolin) would have been 16 or so in this, and Megan was about 18. The lead singer/violinist is their older sister Jessica, who gave up performing not long after this was recorded.

      Yes, they’ve been that good for that long:


    25. 25 | July 30, 2018 11:01 pm

      Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindis, Wiccans and even atheists don’t do this. Who’s left? ZOROASTRIANS!

      https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/pregnant-goat-dies-after-being-gangraped-by-8-men-in-haryana/story-JlFvxZgoPAePsZ4SVz7RbJ.html


    26. 26 | July 30, 2018 11:07 pm

      @ RIX:
      Yes. That’s the only way Trump can control the narrative.

      I had my doubts about him, but I’ve changed my opinion.


    27. eaglesoars
      27 | July 30, 2018 11:11 pm

      @ lobo91:

      very nice. I’m off to bed. nite


    28. 28 | July 30, 2018 11:18 pm

      Trump and his attorney are allowed to tape private conversations with 3rd parties if the 3rd parties agree. Happens all the time.

      Trump’s attorney is NOT allowed to tape private conversations without the knowlege and approval of his client, and he is NOT allowed to disclose them publicly.

      Cohen did exactly that, and should be censured and disbarred for ethics violations.

      Nobody can demonstrate that a crime has been committed because the Prosecution is still trying to manufacture one.


    29. 29 | July 30, 2018 11:19 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Great. Now that I show up, you bail.


    30. 30 | July 30, 2018 11:31 pm

      @ RIX:
      Reagan knew how to do it, too. Trump just does it louder.


    31. 31 | July 30, 2018 11:44 pm

      Drums and bass need to be heavier, but I’ve grown to like it as it is.

      https://youtu.be/yzLqo_nG-5A


    32. coldwarrior
      32 | July 31, 2018 6:10 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      pretty much


    33. coldwarrior
      33 | July 31, 2018 6:14 am

      AZfederalist wrote:

      Anybody here (Eagle or Cold) know anything about this?

      i’ve never seen constant adjustments up for gdp for a president EXCEPT obama.

      gdp numbers were flat out bullshit under him. it was the ‘soft racism of low expectations’ and political cover. every number that came out under him was a total sham at worst or a slight fabrication at best.

      but now the adults are in charge again so it’s back to the proper way of doing the books


    34. 34 | July 31, 2018 7:46 am

      Bunk X wrote:

      Drums and bass need to be heavier, but I’ve grown to like it as it is.

      https://youtu.be/yzLqo_nG-5A

      Bah, you got to quit listening to those damned bloody pikers and find some real musicians to follow around.


    35. eaglesoars
      35 | July 31, 2018 8:05 am

      Bunk X wrote:

      Trump’s attorney is NOT allowed to tape private conversations without the knowlege and approval of his client, and he is NOT allowed to disclose them publicly.

      There are 2 issues here, state law and legal ethics. State law allows him to record. Not being a lawyer, I don’t know what the NY bar requires, but it’s sleazy in any case.

      coldwarrior wrote:

      gdp numbers were flat out bullshit under him.

      The numbers the BLS put out certainly were (I think it’s called the BEA now). They actually changed the calculation in order to make the jobs numbers look better.


    36. 36 | July 31, 2018 8:10 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      The numbers the BLS put out certainly were (I think it’s called the BEA now). They actually changed the calculation in order to make the jobs numbers look better.

      I decided those numbers were pure bullshit when I noticed that under Bush, it took 250,000 new jobs per quarter to keep up with the population growth, but under Obama it only took 125,000 new jobs to keep up with the population growth. Pure political propaganda bullshit.


    37. Buckeye Abroad
      38 | July 31, 2018 8:21 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      Wasn’t Woodward the author who claimed Reagan gave him a death bed confession which was corroborated by no one? Fiction writer I take it?


    38. 39 | July 31, 2018 8:36 am

      Buckeye Abroad wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      Wasn’t Woodward the author who claimed Reagan gave him a death bed confession which was corroborated by no one? Fiction writer I take it?

      Yes. Woodward is a Marxist Propaganda artist. Gained his fame with Watergate and done nothing of real significance since.


    39. RIX
      40 | July 31, 2018 8:43 am

      @ doriangrey:
      Bernstein is as bad , or worse than Woodword. One thing that gets overlooked in their Watergate work is they went with an unverified story . They got lucky, it pained out. But they still reported speculation as fact.


    40. eaglesoars
      41 | July 31, 2018 9:02 am

      Buckeye Abroad wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      Wasn’t Woodward the author who claimed Reagan gave him a death bed confession which was corroborated by no one? Fiction writer I take it?

      oh,nice catch! It wasn’t Reagan, it was Bob Casey, Dir CIA, who was in the hospital dying of a brain tumor. Woodward claimed he smoked security and got into his room to talk to him. I heard Casey’s doc interviewed on Hugh Hewitt’s radio show some years ago and he RIPPED Woodward. The security for Dir CIA is not getting ‘smoked’ and Woodward never got past the lobby, if he got into the hospital at all.

      THEN – get this, I wish I could find it – somebody went back and walked thru the whole Watergate ‘Deep Throat’ thing and guess what? Remember that Woodward would move a geranium plant from one position on his balcony to another? That was supposedly the signal to Deep Throat that Woodward wanted a meeting, because Deep Throat could see it from the parking garage he used.

      Except he couldn’t. Nobody ever verified that. Woodward’s balcony was not visible from any level in the garage.


    41. 42 | July 31, 2018 9:11 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Except he couldn’t. Nobody ever verified that. Woodward’s balcony was not visible from any level in the garage.

      In many ways, Bob Woodward was the prototype for the modern “Journalist” lie your ass off, fill your reporting with your own political agenda and claim EPIC levels of Virtue.


    42. eaglesoars
      43 | July 31, 2018 9:23 am

      @ doriangrey:

      that would be the NYT guy – Duranty? – who got the Pulitzer for lying about starvation in Stalin’s USSR.

      gotta go. bbl


    43. coldwarrior
      44 | July 31, 2018 7:23 pm

      Heh, my new ID says corporate services. Yinz might want to put on that safety gear over there whilst I synergistically leverage a few core competencies to facilitate best practices and ensure optimal patient outcomes.


    44. lobo91
      45 | July 31, 2018 8:42 pm

      Venezuela’s president admits economy has failed

      Under-fire Venezuela President Nicolas Maduro admitted his economic model has “failed” in the wake of food and medicine shortages and public service paralysis, such as Tuesday’s power failure that affected 80 percent of Caracas.

      “The production models we’ve tried so far have failed and the responsibility is ours, mine and yours,” Maduro told his ruling PSUV party congress, as Venezuela looks to tackle chronic inflation the International Monetary Fund predicted would reach one million percent this year.

      “Enough with the whining… we need to produce with or without (outside) aggression, with or without blockades, we need to make Venezuela an economic power,” he added late Monday, with the country grappling with a four-year long recession.

      “No more whining, I want solutions comrades!”

      The socialist government has over recent years nationalized various industry sectors such as cement and steel, expropriated hundreds of businesses, including supermarket chains, and lately brought in the army to control street markets to guard against rising prices.

      It has also fixed prices on various goods and imposed a monopoly on foreign exchange.

      “I estimate it will take about two years to reach a high level of stability and see the first symptoms of new and economic prosperity, without for one second affecting social security and protection,” added the president.


    45. eaglesoars
      46 | July 31, 2018 8:51 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      Heh, my new ID says corporate services. Yinz might want to put on that safety gear over there whilst I synergistically leverage a few core competencies to facilitate best practices and ensure optimal patient outcomes.

      ohgod. are you wearing a suit and tie, too?

      here is the (very sensible) NRA statement on 3D printed guns

      ————-

      “Many anti-gun politicians and members of the media have wrongly claimed that 3-D printing technology will allow for the production and widespread proliferation of undetectable plastic firearms. Regardless of what a person may be able to publish on the Internet, undetectable plastic guns have been illegal for 30 years. Federal law passed in 1988, crafted with the NRA’s support, makes it unlawful to manufacture, import, sell, ship, deliver, possess, transfer, or receive an undetectable firearm.”

      https://www.nraila.org/articles/20180731/nra-statement-on-3-d-printers-and-plastic-firearms


    46. eaglesoars
      47 | July 31, 2018 8:52 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      without for one second affecting social security and protection,”

      so that means they continue to starve for at least 2 more years. good work, comrade.


    47. coldwarrior
      48 | July 31, 2018 8:57 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      ohgod. are you wearing a suit and tie, too?

      nope, in the trenches trying to fix broken units.


    48. coldwarrior
      49 | July 31, 2018 8:58 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      @ coldwarrior:

      i’m just good at the corporate lingo from my previous job…where we played corporate buzzword bingo on conference calls for shots later.


    49. coldwarrior
      50 | July 31, 2018 8:59 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      “Enough with the whining… we need to produce with or without (outside) aggression, with or without blockades, we need to make Venezuela an economic power,” he added late Monday, with the country grappling with a four-year long recession.

      “No more whining, I want solutions comrades!”

      the serious purges will start soon


    50. lobo91
      51 | July 31, 2018 9:04 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      “Federal law passed in 1988, crafted with the NRA’s support, makes it unlawful to manufacture, import, sell, ship, deliver, possess, transfer, or receive an undetectable firearm”

      Details…


    51. lobo91
      52 | July 31, 2018 9:20 pm

      Of course, that law was originally passed because anti-gun idiots freaked out when Glock introduced the first polymer-framed pistol, claiming that they were undetectable.


    52. AZfederalist
      53 | July 31, 2018 9:48 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      but now the adults are in charge again so it’s back to the proper way of doing the books

      Thanks. So they were cooking the books for Obama, now they have got religion and are going straight again.


    53. AZfederalist
      54 | July 31, 2018 9:51 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      Heh, my new ID says corporate services. Yinz might want to put on that safety gear over there whilst I synergistically leverage a few core competencies to facilitate best practices and ensure optimal patient outcomes.

      You left out, “… while promoting and endorsing diversity and inclusiveness such that the inputs of all members of the team are respected and know that they are valued contributors”

      /gag me


    54. AZfederalist
      55 | July 31, 2018 9:54 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      “No more whining, I want solutions comrades!”

      Uh yeah, that didn’t work for the Soviet Union either. No matter how many commissars and functionaries they shot. Yeah, that’s probably coming next because moving back to a market-based economy would be just too radical for Venezuela.


    55. 56 | July 31, 2018 10:03 pm

      @ AZfederalist:
      And the Democratic Socialists.


    56. eaglesoars
      57 | July 31, 2018 10:06 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      Yeah, that’s probably coming next because moving back to a market-based economy would be just too radical for Venezuela.

      I dunno. Have we heard from Sean Penn yet?

      coldwarrior wrote:

      corporate buzzword bingo on conference calls for shots later.

      architected.

      I kid you not. I threatened to fire a VP if she used that word one more time. I was a mere systems/analyst team lead at the time and had absolutely no authority over when she took her lunch break, but I was so pissed off I scared the crap out of her. Oh, I think I called her ‘stupid’ while I was at it. I’m told it was quite a rant.


    57. CynicalConservative
      58 | July 31, 2018 10:18 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      Heh, my new ID says corporate services. Yinz might want to put on that safety gear over there whilst I synergistically leverage a few core competencies to facilitate best practices and ensure optimal patient outcomes.

      You left out, “… while promoting and endorsing diversity and inclusiveness such that the inputs of all members of the team are respected and know that they are valued contributors”

      /gag me

      Yeah, diversity is soooooo great. Reinforces the high-school clique mentality into corporate America. Just watch the break and lunch groups to see how well “diversity” and “inclusion” works.

      Don’t get me started on Agile…

      FTFF


    58. coldwarrior
      59 | July 31, 2018 10:21 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      , “… while promoting and endorsing diversity and inclusiveness such that the inputs of all members of the team are respected and know that they are valued contributors”

      preach it from the corner offices!

      😆


    59. coldwarrior
      60 | July 31, 2018 10:22 pm

      AGILE ARCHITECTURING!!!!

      YES!!!


    60. CynicalConservative
      61 | July 31, 2018 10:28 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      I just transferred out of a job due to the new managers fluency in jargon and buzzwords. Got better things to do with my time.

      FTFF


    61. lobo91
      62 | July 31, 2018 10:31 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      I can probably get you the slides for that “Transgender 101” class if you like…
      //


    62. coldwarrior
      63 | July 31, 2018 10:33 pm

      @ CynicalConservative:
      @ lobo91:
      I collect…aka, curate..these absurd and meaningless phrases. They have fascinated me since day one in mgmt.


    63. CynicalConservative
      64 | July 31, 2018 10:39 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ CynicalConservative:
      @ lobo91:
      I collect…aka, curate..these absurd and meaningless phrases. They have fascinated me since day one in mgmt.

      Yep. Usage of jargon (or lack) is a clear indicator to jump ship or dig in for the long haul. Benign neglect is also a coping mechanism when one gets stuck. I got lucky this time. Also, Powerpoint is the devils tool – 25 years, less than 1x per year produced and I NEVER read my slides.

      FTFF


    64. coldwarrior
      65 | July 31, 2018 10:45 pm

      @ CynicalConservative:
      I sponsored buzzword bingo as early as 2002. This was for shots later.

      I know of no one doing that early. It was real and quite lethal. Everyone wrote out a bingo card and then they were randomly drawn.

      Winner gets one shot and gets to assign 2 shots. It was interesting to see the result at the bar.

      Of course, those days are long long gone.


    65. CynicalConservative
      66 | July 31, 2018 10:48 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      Would be a blast if I could stand to be around people anymore. Hard enough to put a full day in the office anymore with telecommuting widely supported; good development for recluses.

      FTFF


    66. coldwarrior
      67 | July 31, 2018 10:50 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      One of my underlings yelled bingo whilst the mic was on in 2007…

      Another office said they had bingo first. The meeting degenerated after that with corporate flunkies realizing that they had been the object of fun.

      We had to pretend to be serious after that…so it became BlackBerry buzzword bingo during the calls.


    67. CynicalConservative
      68 | July 31, 2018 10:53 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      Heh. Oops. 🙂

      FTFF


    68. coldwarrior
      69 | July 31, 2018 10:53 pm

      @ CynicalConservative:
      My little brother, who is big shit now at FedEx ground, was doing his first conference call from corporate to us in the field. He used a buzzword. I chimed in, the banter between us is legend. That was back when the company was fun.


    69. AZfederalist
      70 | July 31, 2018 11:02 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      preach it from the corner offices!

      Saw an article from Michael Dell today on LinkedIn about how to organize high performing teams. Yep, he had to have a paragraph on diversity and inclusiveness. Pretty much lost interest after that.

      You curate buzzwords, I have a “Dilberts” collection — not the comics, the supporting activities that make Dilbert. It is a quite sizable set of files.


    70. coldwarrior
      71 | July 31, 2018 11:03 pm

      And no. I never use those words. They indicate a lack of confidence and backbone in the speaker.i am very plain spoken, and respectful. Our system is like the Borg. We are buying up everything…some places are very resistant to the inevitable change…they failed because they were inefficient…and now, they will be assimilated and shown the safe and efficient way to deliver high quality patient care.

      I go to the most messed up Ed’s and try to get them right.


    71. coldwarrior
      72 | July 31, 2018 11:08 pm

      @ AZfederalist:
      Diversity…mmhmmm.


    72. eaglesoars
      73 | July 31, 2018 11:09 pm

      !!!

      MEXICO CITY (Reuters) – A man accused of murdering a U.S. Border Patrol agent [Brian Terry] in a case linked to the U.S. government’s “Fast and Furious” gun-running sting was extradited on Tuesday from Mexico to the United States, the U.S. Justice Department said in a statement.

      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-usa-crime/mexico-extradites-accused-gunman-in-fast-and-furious-case-idUSKBN1KM39V

      now if we could only extradite Eric Holder to Mexico


    73. coldwarrior
      74 | July 31, 2018 11:11 pm

      And no, there is no perfect way, part of my gig is to find the best way to do things and make it so.

      And my gig is to let the directors know that if their system is messed up, here is the right way to do it.

      I find myself in close to the same gig I had at FedEx, go…fix…return. go again


    74. coldwarrior
      75 | July 31, 2018 11:16 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      It never ends


    75. coldwarrior
      76 | July 31, 2018 11:16 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Well…hmmmm….


    76. eaglesoars
      77 | July 31, 2018 11:18 pm

      CynicalConservative wrote:

      Just watch the break and lunch groups to see how well “diversity” and “inclusion” works.

      never, if it’s forced. But I’ve worked on teams that were veritable U.N. in microcosm and if the team bonded, none of that crap mattered. Reorgs were always nerve wracking because teams got shuffled around and people felt homeless.


    77. AZfederalist
      78 | July 31, 2018 11:31 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      never, if it’s forced. But I’ve worked on teams that were veritable U.N. in microcosm and if the team bonded, none of that crap mattered.

      Yep. I don’t care what color you are or how you are plumbed. If you are technically competent, work well within the team and don’t cause more trouble than you are worth, I’ll take you on my team. I’m not filling out a quota bingo card.

      /Funny thing, our teams produce superior results for what we do.


    78. CynicalConservative
      79 | July 31, 2018 11:46 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      @ AZfederalist:
      When it’s organic, it’s a wonder, when forced it’s a farce.

      FTFF


    79. eaglesoars
      80 | August 1, 2018 12:04 am

      The best team I ever had:

      me – little Miss White Bread
      Yoda – Japanese/white American
      Victor – Israeli educated Nigerian – hands down the smartest person I’ve ever worked with

      Yon – Korean
      KG – African American female
      Helen – mainland Chinese
      Ibrahim – British Pakistani
      Longlost – white American redneck male

      we rocked

      and I’m out. nite.


    80. yenta-fada
      81 | August 1, 2018 8:17 am

      I’m in hell. Eight hours a day since the beginning of May with talking on the phone impossible over constant jackhammers and drilling. Housebound with limited mobility and autoimmune illness unrelated. Can’t hear or talk to hubby without yelling. AT LEAST another month. Our condo is dead center for all support above and below. I’m on my last nerve all of the time. It’s all balcony and window work. It’s all about the building needs and fuck the people most affected.

      In good news, Tommy Robinson is FREE ON BAIL with another hearing in Sept. for an earlier case.

      https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6912226/tommy-robinson-freed-appeal-bail-contempt-of-court-latest/


    81. coldwarrior
      82 | August 1, 2018 8:22 am

      @ yenta-fada:

      hang in there yenta!


    82. yenta-fada
      83 | August 1, 2018 8:23 am

      @ yenta-fada:

      Too handicapped to actually climb over the balcony and jump. I contemplate it every single day. Yes, there are people in the world suffering more than I do. I don’t give a crap anymore. These noisy renos started 17 months ago, but it is even louder and more constant since May. I give up.


    83. yenta-fada
      84 | August 1, 2018 8:24 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ yenta-fada:

      hang in there yenta!

      Hanging sounds pleasantly quick.


    84. coldwarrior
      85 | August 1, 2018 8:33 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      The best team I ever had:

      me – little Miss White Bread
      Yoda – Japanese/white American
      Victor – Israeli educated Nigerian – hands down the smartest person I’ve ever worked with

      Yon – Korean
      KG – African American female
      Helen – mainland Chinese
      Ibrahim – British Pakistani
      Longlost – white American redneck male

      we rocked

      and I’m out. nite.

      homophobe. no LBGTQMNLOPQRST!!!!

      😉


    85. coldwarrior
      86 | August 1, 2018 8:34 am

      @ yenta-fada:
      @ yenta-fada:

      sounds miserable. get some noise cancelling headphones.


    86. coldwarrior
      87 | August 1, 2018 8:34 am

      …salt mines…


    87. yenta-fada
      88 | August 1, 2018 8:57 am

      Ezra Levant (Rebel Media) crowdfunded superior legal defense for Tommy and used his own money up front to get things done ASAP. He went to London twice to make sure the reporting was accurate. The BBC & the Brit MSM LIED all the way since Day one from the arrest & immediate imprisonment.

      Tommmy is writing a book called “Enemy of the State” on the Brit corrupt legal system. So far the Lord Chief Justice of England intervened with some actual accountability today. If not for Ezra and the English crowds who turned out for peaceful protests by the thousands, Tommy would have been murdered by fatwa inside the predominantly Muslim prison population in the jail selected by the earlier kangaroo court. Battle not over, but other European countries like Germany & their “rapeugee” invaders are watching.

      Apparently they have had to rule on legal issues that could set precedence. This is why this latest appeal had THREE judges. Even though Ezra is a Canadian lawyer, he has been learning about differences in English legal procedures. The eeevil populists have made their voices heard.


    88. yenta-fada
      89 | August 1, 2018 8:58 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ yenta-fada:
      @ yenta-fada:

      sounds miserable. get some noise cancelling headphones.

      Doesn’t work so well for the low bone jarring jackhammer frequencies.


    89. 91 | August 1, 2018 10:11 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      There are 2 issues here, state law and legal ethics. State law allows him to record. Not being a lawyer, I don’t know what the NY bar requires, but it’s sleazy in any case.

      Both the New York State Bar and the American Bar Association Canon of Ethics condemn the audio taping of a client without their consent, regardless of the circumstances. If the fact that Cohen taped him weren’t bad enough, the turning over of the tapes to any third-party is a violation of attorney-client privilege. It is TRUMP that holds that privilege, NOT Cohen, and it was up to Trump to waive it.

      Judge Wood completely erred in ordering their production. Cohen should have refused to turn them over, taken an immediate writ of mandamus of said order to the 2nd Circuit and even SCOTUS if necessary. But I think even the 2nd Circuit would have put the brakes to this.


    90. eaglesoars
      92 | August 1, 2018 10:12 am

      yenta-fada wrote:

      Tommmy is writing a book called “Enemy of the State”

      He may be writing a new book, but Enemy of the State has been out for awhile. Good read, recommended


    91. 93 | August 1, 2018 10:19 am

      Wish I could find the link to it but perusing Twitter yesterday heard that Judge Ellis interrupted the prosecution’s opening statement in the Manafort trial when the attorney made reference to how much money Manafort had made, with the remark like “it’s not a crime for people to make money.”

      Immediately, the left jumped into action, screaming “Judicial Bias” and asking for an immediate mistrial! One attorney idiot chimed in saying in his entire career, he’s never heard a judge interrupt an opening statement.

      Then you haven’t been in court very often. Because judge’s interrupt opening statements all.the.time. if they believe you are moving far afield of the purposes of an opening statement, especially in a criminal context. In that, you are to explain the elements of the crime, the evidence you plan to prove it and why they should be found guilty. The fact that he made money is not an element of the crime. Especially since, if I recall correctly, he dealt with the Ukraine, not Russia.


    92. 94 | August 1, 2018 10:21 am

      I notice that when Michael Wolfe’s White House fairy tale book was published, you couldn’t turn a TV on without seeing his ugly mug lying his ass off.

      Have yet to hear any TV press for either “The Russia Hoax” by Greg Jarrett or “Licensed to Lie” by Sidney Powell, both of which are sourced and annotated.

      Silly me.


    93. 95 | August 1, 2018 10:27 am

      Oh this is rich. Federal judge in Seattle has issued injunction against 3D gun plans being downloaded from the internet. Oh! The SCOURGE of 3D guns.

      Except. Dude. Prior restraint.

      Near v. Minnesota. Check your first-year Con Law book.


    94. 96 | August 1, 2018 10:42 am

      The Barbarian wrote:

      Except. Dude. Prior restraint.

      Near v. Minnesota. Check your first-year Con Law book.

      Bah… That would impede the judges political agenda…


    95. eaglesoars
      97 | August 1, 2018 10:46 am

      The Barbarian wrote:

      made reference to how much money Manafort had made, with the remark like “it’s not a crime for people to make money.”

      oh, it was good! The prosecution said Manafort has a $15k ostrich coat/jacket. They’re trying to play the politics of envy. If I’d been on the jury I would have been piping up “Really? Where’d he get it? I want one.”

      I doubt the defense is allowed to say this but someone pointed out that Les Moonves is due to make over $100 million in the next 3 years according to his contract. For putting crap shows on TV


    96. eaglesoars
      98 | August 1, 2018 10:48 am

      The Barbarian wrote:

      3D gun plans being downloaded from the internet. Oh! The SCOURGE of 3D guns.

      ok, stupid question.

      Who wants a plastic gun?


    97. 99 | August 1, 2018 11:44 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      No one – but the left is in hysteria over guns that could can make at home and then get through security as undetectable. Okay, I’ll agree to your demands when you put a full-metal jacket lead bullet in a 100% plastic gun and pull the trigger and tell me what happens.

      Even the BEST plastic gun requires metal parts. Otherwise, it’s what we in the trade call a…..water pistol.

      Also, and here’s a clue for you dingbats at #Momsdemand and #gunsense. People have been performing their own gunsmithing for centuries. And you can manufacture a gun in your garage for FAR LESS money that it would take to invest in a 3D printer.

      Of course, at least one person has benefitted. Anderson Cooper had Camera Hogg on last night to explain to the viewing audience all about the dangers of 3D printing of guns. From his vast knowledge of the subject. More people made fun of him on Twitter, I imagine than actually saw the broadcast. His formerly-employed-by-CNN mommy must have made a call to CNN begging them to put her ignorant and bored son back on TV.


    98. 100 | August 1, 2018 11:46 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      I think Rush mentioned something.
      Actually, I cannot think of a single CBS show I watch anymore. The last one to go off my DVR was “Big Bang Theory” because their cast started lecturing me on my politics.


    99. 101 | August 1, 2018 11:48 am

      Oh, and I am emailing John Taffer to take his “Bar Rescue” show to another channel, since Spike TV (now Paramount TV) has apparently appointed itself the official channel of Black Lives Matter and is producing FICTIONAL accounts of various incidents – this year – Trayvon “St. Skittles” Martin – he’s a saint and a martyr, don’t you know.


    100. 102 | August 1, 2018 2:26 pm

      Frankly watching the media hysteria about the printing of 3D plastic guns is laughable. I’m not an expert on this, but I’m pretty sure the capability to print a plastic gun from a 3D printer and the internet instructions for doing so have been around for over a decade. And yet, no one was worried about this or even gave it a second thought.

      Until it was mentioned by the State Department. Oh, uh, make that TRUMP’s State Department.


    101. yenta-fada
      103 | August 1, 2018 2:35 pm

      The Crew of the Enterprise reacts to Alexandria Crtez.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjpXAJ3hEBo


    102. eaglesoars
      104 | August 1, 2018 3:41 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      I’m pretty sure the capability to print a plastic gun from a 3D printer and the internet instructions for doing so have been around for over a decade.

      Since it has always been legal to make your own ‘regular’ firearms for personal use, I’m sure instructions for that have been on the internet even longer.

      @ yenta-fada:

      god, I miss that show!

      So, the judge in the Manafort case went off on the prosecution again.

      ————–
      U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III specifically told prosecutors to stop using the word “oligarch” to describe wealthy Ukrainians, whose dealings with Manafort are at the heart of the fraud charges he faces in northern Virginia federal court.

      The judge said the term has a “pejorative” meaning and is not relevant in this case. Further, he cautioned that using it could suggest Manafort is associated with bad people – and guilty by association.

      “It’s not the American way,” the judge said. He noted that wealthy donors like George Soros or the Koch brothers also could be considered oligarchs.

      http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/01/mueller-team-lectured-by-judge-in-manafort-case.html


    103. eaglesoars
      105 | August 1, 2018 3:45 pm

      missed this:

      ————

      The Mueller team was later rebuffed again by Ellis when they tried to introduce photos that eventually would become public of Manafort’s closets filled with suits and high-end clothing.

      photos of his closet?

      God, these people are really lame


    104. 106 | August 1, 2018 4:15 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Gets better – they’ve announced that Rick Gates, Manafort’s partner who plead guilty – may or “may not” testify. Well, Judge Ellis didn’t take kindly to THAT either.

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/judge-ellis-blasts-muellers-prosecutor-for-shocking-revelation-star-witness-rick-gates-may-not-testify-in-manafort-trial/

      Once the prosecution has presented its case, the defense may file a motion for a directed verdict/dismissal in a criminal matter, arguing that the prosecution has not proven its case against the defendant. I’m starting to wonder if Ellis is so disgusted by the prosecution he ALLOWED it to go forward to trial after seeing the unredacted memo because once that jury was seated, jeopardy attached and that the defense might prevail on a motion to dismiss.


    105. 107 | August 1, 2018 4:28 pm

      I haven’t seen any reports on it, but the FBI agent Mikuska, who participated in the raid on Manafort’s home testified as to the mechanics of that raid. I wish I were Manafort’s lawyer:

      “Agent Mikuska, the raid on the Manafort home occurred at 6:00 a.m.?”

      “And you entered his home with your guns drawn, is that correct?”

      “And you searched that home for 10 hours, is that correct?”

      “Now then, up until the day of the raid, Mr. Manafort had been cooperating with the Mueller investigation regarding document production, is that correct?”

      “You had no indication that Mr. Manafort had a history of violence or gun use, isn’t that correct?”

      “In fact, when you raided that house, Mr. Manafort and his wife were sleeping, isn’t that correct?”

      “Could you perhaps, then explain to the jury why Mr. Weissman, the prosecutor who ordered this raid, made the determination that it should be conducted in the same manner and heavy-handed techniques normally reserved for fugitives who are considered armed and dangerous?

      {At this point, dumdum prosecutor can object because I’ve asked an open-ended question; but I want to leave the jury with that image!}


    106. 108 | August 1, 2018 4:35 pm

      Democrats want gender identity and sexual orientation added to the census.

      https://www.weaselzippers.us/392496-sexual-orientation-gender-identity-would-be-counted-in-census-under-new-bill-introduced-by-democrats/

      This could be fun, with people deciding they identity as a ficus or a wombat.


    107. 109 | August 1, 2018 5:19 pm

      I’m also starting to wonder if Mueller hadn’t ever planned to take Manafort to trial; that he and the Democrat Donor ethically challenged prosecutors he’s employed weren’t CERTAIN that Manafort would flip before they had to take this is front of a judge and a jury.

      Now they’re stuck. They had Rick Gates as their “star” witness and are now back-pedaling about calling him. It would not surprise me that Mueller told Gates he’d never have to actually testify, that he’d never actually be placed under oath, that Manafort would crack long before this happened.

      Except he didn’t. And since this is the first trial in Mueller defendant parade, he couldn’t back out of this. He had to go forward, and he probably has a very FLAWED case.

      It would be as if during the Manson trial, Vince Bugliosi said “Hmm….I’m not sure we’re going to be calling eye witness Linda Kasabian to testify, your honor.”


    108. eaglesoars
      110 | August 1, 2018 6:58 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      Gets better – they’ve announced that Rick Gates, Manafort’s partner who plead guilty – may or “may not” testify. Well, Judge Ellis didn’t take kindly to THAT either.

      just a second here. The article at gateway pundit says

      This rebuke from Judge Ellis was in response to FBI agent Matthew Mikuska describing a financial document put together by Rick Gates.

      The prosecution brought this financial document into the picture, right?

      Now, can the DEFENSE call Rick Gates? Because – not knowing all the details – if the prosecution doesn’t want to call him, but they want his ‘evidence’, I smell a rat, and I’d have people at his house going over every word again and call him to testify. Maybe as a hostile?


    109. 111 | August 1, 2018 7:09 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Oh they sure can. The defense can call anyone they want, except the defendant. And if the prosecution doesn’t call Gates, and the defense does, they can’t even object because this is a witness THEY have prepped, not the defense.

      Oh, and Gates would need to authenticate that document. Mikusa cannot be cross-examined on the background or compiling of a document that he did not create. He doesn’t get to say “Gates told me.” Gates is able to testify and therefore would provide best evidence as to the document so there is no exception to the hearsay rule in play. He’s already supposedly plead guilty and even if he hadn’t, the court can grant transactional immunity for his testimony in this instance.


    110. eaglesoars
      112 | August 1, 2018 7:19 pm

      @ The Barbarian:

      I shoulda been a lawyer…………..


    111. 113 | August 1, 2018 7:48 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ The Barbarian:

      I shoulda been a lawyer…………..

      I could not agree more. You would have been a great one.


    112. eaglesoars
      114 | August 1, 2018 8:41 pm

      Personally, I think it’s too late, there are too many people who have invested in demonizing ‘white’.

      This is VDH on our ‘new’ civil war. He goes over the root causes, I find the last most interesting

      Again, Obama most unfortunately redefined race as a white-versus-nonwhite binary, in an attempt to build a new coalition of progressives, on the unspoken assumption that the clingers were destined to slow irrelevance and with them their retrograde and obstructionist ideas.

      I think VDH has correctly analyzed Obama’s thinking, and I believe it carries the seeds of its own failure.

      Western civilization was built/created by white men and women. The assumption that the cultural carriers would willingly fade away into irrelevance betrays a deep misunderstanding of what white culture has wrought and why.

      The people who openly call for its destruction, violent if necessary, have a much better understanding of the reasons it is successful and dominant.

      I’ll throw out just those tidbits and if anyone wants to play with them….

      https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/origins-of-second-civil-war-globalism-tech-boom-immigration-campus-radicalism/amp/


    113. AZfederalist
      115 | August 1, 2018 9:59 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      ok, stupid question.

      Who wants a plastic gun?

      The plans being published are nothing more than a glorified zip gun. Not exactly a mass-shooting threat. The people to fear are those with well equipped machine shops who can turn metal and produce high-precision parts.

      .. and there are more of those than one might think


    114. eaglesoars
      116 | August 1, 2018 10:09 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      .. and there are more of those than one might think

      as long as they’re on our side

      bedtime. nite.


    115. 117 | August 1, 2018 11:40 pm

      Mmmm… Arrogant Bastard Ale and Romeo y Juliet’s… Working in a 180 degree attic sucks elephant balls… But the rewards aint so bad.


    116. AZfederalist
      118 | August 1, 2018 11:55 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      Working in a 180 degree attic sucks elephant balls… But the rewards aint so bad.

      One of those things where you feel like you accomplished something after you are done.


    117. 119 | August 2, 2018 12:07 am

      AZfederalist wrote:

      doriangrey wrote:

      Working in a 180 degree attic sucks elephant balls… But the rewards aint so bad.

      One of those things where you feel like you accomplished something after you are done.

      ROTFLMAO… Something that feels half way between Heroic and suicidal… Ya don’t know whether to strut like a Peacock or kill yourself.


    118. 120 | August 2, 2018 12:13 am

      @ doriangrey:

      Oh, and lets not get this fucked up, if I have to crawl on my stomach through fiberglass insulation in 180 degree heat for 4 hours while trying to cut holes in the ceiling while laying on my back or side and move ducting around, I’m charging my own mother a thousand dollars in labor, and I love my mother. Holy shit, a person could genuinely die doing this shit. I’m either insanely desperate for work, or just plain crazy. (or possible both)


    119. rain of lead
      121 | August 2, 2018 6:52 am

      morning y’all,stolen rant from ace’s place

      “America, the greatest country the earth has ever seen.”

      We are the extreme on everything, we do nothing if not to excess. We are the only country to nuke another country? You’re welcome – don’t fuck with us to the point you get our undivided attention. We shoot Stop signs for lack of anything better to do, for Gawd’s Sake. Racing? You have all the specialized Euro Cars – we’re the ones that took moonshiners runs and made *that* a regulated professional sport. Yeah, we took people avoiding paying taxes and made that into a multi-million (if not billion) dollar sport. If you stick around we’ll make eating food into a competition – whoops! Too Late! We already did.
      Are we crass? F* Yeah, though nothing like you clowns. We may like a good fart joke, we don’t go around trying to gas people just because some failed artist (should have gone into drafting) started ranting. And most of us didn’t worship some shrimp as a living god (I’d be more embarrassed if my so-called-betters didn’t give him a prize just for breathing).

      Our failures are more magnificent than yours – the new aircraft carrier (bigger than any you have attempted) has problems with the catapults. We got that. By the way, your Mars probe augured in at Mach whoknowswhat because you were busy with your metric nonsense while we landed on the moon multiple times before color television was normal and landed a Mars probe almost fifty years ago. And our Mars rovers work and do that well past the warranty period – see the Voyager craft that have left here for what quality builds mean.

      There’s always someone who guns for number one – the higher you climb, the better target you are – we get that. Americans would have it no other way. If they are gunning for you, you’re important – no one gets worked up over Belize


    120. eaglesoars
      122 | August 2, 2018 8:45 am

      @ rain of lead:

      *snif*

      left out the ‘chicks with guns’ part


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