“But George Bush……”
For eight years we heard this. That or “it’s Bush’s fault. Mind you, from 2000 to 2008 no one was allowed to point out the failures of the Clinton Administration; we were only to remember the fabulous economy, but not the dot.com burst that destroyed 401k’s and fortunes; we were to remember the rise in home ownership; not the strongarm tactics that resulted in disastrous loans. Most of all, we were never to mention the foreign policy failures that contributed to 9/11. From 2008 to 2016, Bush was to blame for everything from interest-only ARM loans to the Fall of the Roman Empire.
Well, it’s back. When Donald Trump is criticized for this or that, and you direct the critic to similar or worse actions by Obama, the cry goes up “I’m tired of your Whataboutism! Why can’t you just defend Trump without criticizing Obama! You CAN’T, can you?” Well, I certainly can, but I just spent 8 years being called a racist; I’m not about to subject myself to the new and improved version regarding the White Guy with the Hair that Defies Gravity. (I swear, the next kitten I get is going to be a marmalade color, just so I can name him Trumpkin and piss off all the right neighbors).
But what I like to call “whatabout?” is expanding to new areas. With predictably similar results.
National Rifle Association v. Planned Parenthood
If there is any organization the left hates with a passion it’s the National Rifle Association. Their exalted status as bogeyman/terrorist is relatively recent – pretty much since the 1980’s. For instance, on August 1, 1966, when mental defective Charles Whitman climbed the stairs at the University of Texas to unleash hell on the populace below, no one took to the airwaves to condemn the members of the NRA. Now the 6 million members of the NRA are responsible for every madman who commits an act of evil using a firearm. They stand in the way of gun control laws! If only it weren’t for the NRA, we would have sensible gun laws. You know, like they have in Chicago. Or in California. Because those gun laws worked so well in San Bernardino. They are the only organization that I can think of where it’s members are continually held liable for acts they not only condemn, but had no part in. It’s always striking that the ignorant left vilifies politicians that accept endorsements from the NRA, whose members are the sole source of their campaign donations.
The darling organization of the left is Planned Parenthood, an organization that reeks of deception and whose very name is dripping with irony. The left and the media extol the virtue of PP, that it provides women with necessary “health care”. For this they receive governmental funding, the withdrawal of which will apparently end any hope of women receiving medical care in this country. But what Democrats bestow with their left hand – they extract with their right in the form of campaign donations. This isn’t a women’s health organization – it’s Mr. Yin Fluff and Fold. And when the insidious practices of PP are exposed in the form of undercover video, does the MSM or Democrats demand an explanation? No. They immediately accuse the video makers of lying. In fact, if you’re the California Attorney General and running for the U.S. Senate, you protect your donor by bringing criminal charges against them.
The TEA Party v. The Resistance
The TEA Party actually had its genesis in the election of 2006, in response to the profligate spending by the GOP. They didn’t actually vote FOR the Democrats; they just refused to vote for the Republicans; but the result was a same. It gave itself a name in 2009 in response to the ACA. It held rallies, cleaned up after themselves, and attended Town Hall meetings where their voices got a little loud and their anger was evident. Violence, however, was not a part of the rhetoric. When the ACA was still in its legislative phase, they politely went to the halls of Congress and requested a meeting with their various Congress Critters. For this, they were labeled racist by the mainstream media and called terrorists by the Vice President. Not to mention the use of the vulgar term “tea baggers” by the President, who snotted about them whenever possible. The media, in fact, blamed them for the death of a Federal agent because he was found dead in the woods several miles from where a rally was being held. Except, suicide. Retraction on page 6.
The Resistance arose in the election of 2016, for no other reason than they didn’t like results. Trump hadn’t even DONE anything and there they were, taking to the streets and screaming their asses off. Wanting to blow up the White House. Their paramilitary wing, Antifa, happily crashes any pro-America rally in hopes of putting that brand-new club with accessorized bicycle locks to use on a “Trumpster’s” head. Bonus points if they’re wearing a red hat. Conservative speaker in town? Well, let’s burn down nearby buildings and scare away those conservative cavepeople with FIRE! Media gives them a pass, calling them “anti-fascists” and reducing their antics to a one-minute segment, to be followed by half an hour on the President’s latest tweet. ANTI-fascist?? Maybe these people need to Google “Kristallnacht” and take a refresher course in the what the Brown Shirts really were.
I’m thinking the ancient Romans had it right…..the Latin word for “left” is “sinister”.
As always it’s your open thread. Time to discuss anything you want. Like Rush’s Open Line Friday – except you know, here that’s every day.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/10/27/gq-correspondent-julia-ioffe-tells-fellow-american-jews-who-makes-this-possible-after-synagogue-shooting-just-guess/
@ Twitchy
This GQ contributor blames her fellow Jews for the Synagogue shootings.
Her reasoning? Because they supported Trump moving our embassy to Jerusalem!
WTF! let that sink in.
Stephanopolis just opened his Sunday program lamenting all of the hate and violence.
Ok, so far so good, but he was not done. You have probably guessed what came next.
He then went on to place “An incendiary and unapologetic president at the epicenter.”
No bias, none st all./
@ RIX:
Gee…who could have seen that coming?
/s
lobo91 wrote:
Yup, it is a forehead slapper. Never saw that coming./
RIX wrote:
she’s one of the ones I mentioned last nite. She’s the person who accused Trump of having an incestuous relationship with Ivanka. Remember the name. Julia Ioffe.
Some of the Never Trumpers (e.g. John Podhoretz) are assuming a horrified crouch at the Trump blaming, never thinking that their years of Never Trumping (which was never based on policy, as it began during the campaign) fertilized those fields.
The new thing on twitter is to try to isolate George Soros from the free-fire zone. Now the word ‘Soros’ is a ‘dog whistle’ for ‘Jew’ and if you say ‘Soros’ you mean ‘Jew’ and you are an anti-Semite.
It was a fascinating thing to watch. Within a matter of hours, no more than 6, the language police came out with their speech cudgels. I watched to see if I could tell where it originated but it was too diffuse. But there’s definitely a ‘journolist’ feel to it, marching orders were given and to the keyboards they took.
Trump as an anti-Semite is not a new trope. Here’s a piece from the Atlantic/Nov 2016 that uses a campaign ad to illustrate. You can watch the ad. So, after you’ve done that, read the piece and see if it makes ANY sense to you. When I watched it, it was about jobs, globalism, etc. and Hillary was the main villain. But this guy saw Soros, Yellin and Blankenfield as the targets.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-rolls-out-anti-semitic-closing-ad
The other thing about using Soros as a stand-in for Jews: He’s an atheist. To insist he’s a Jew today is to declare Jews to be a race. Think about that.
@ eaglesoars:
The pragmatic argument to the “Soros the Jew” argument is to cite Israeli and Hungarian policies toward him.
Here’s a primer, which is sympathetic to Soros.
https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Netanyahu-blames-Soros-for-Israel-anti-deportation-campaign-540640
@ lobo91:
my #7 was meant for you. gotta go. back later
Trump watched the game last night
Watching the Dodgers/Red Sox final innings. It is amazing how a manager takes out a pitcher who is loose & dominating through almost 7 innings, Rich Hill of Dodgers, and brings in nervous reliever(s) who get shellacked. 4 run lead gone. Managers do it all the time, big mistake!
aaannnndddd…………….
Heal the country. Be a leader. America is broken and saddened. Make America great by bringing us together. Stop turning us against each other.
https://twitter.com/secupp/status/1056417981012549633
About half an hour ago
Fox Business on Sunday said it pulled an episode of “Lou Dobbs Tonight” that contained what critics said was anti-Semitic sentiment just a day after a gunman killed 11 people in a synagogue in Pittsburgh.
Fox Business pulls episode of ‘Lou Dobbs Tonight’ with ‘Soros-occupied State Department’ remark
well well well
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fox-business-pulls-episode-of-lou-dobbs-tonight-with-soros-occupied-state-department-remark
@ eaglesoars:
thanks for posting the video. The guys analysis is completely an unhinged nonseqitor.
There is nothing in Trumps professional or personal life that has a whiff of anti- semiticism.
The guy tortures logic when he tries to explain away the criticism of Hillary.
Kushner? Why he must be a Jew who turns on other Jews. The irony, Soros and his stepfather actually turned Jews into real Nazis. they then bought their property ar fire sale prices.
https://www.weaselzippers.us/400864-the-simpsons-producer-confirms-apu-is-being-written-out-of-show-following-controversy/
@ WZ
APU is being dropped by the Simpsons. Doh!
100% predictable
Trump’s Caravan Hysteria Led to This
The president and his supporters insisted that several thousand Honduran migrants were a looming menace—and the Pittsburgh gunman took that seriously.
no one has any personal agency, Trump is all
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/caravan-lie-sparked-massacre-american-jews/574213/?utm_content=edit-promo&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_medium=social&utm_term=2018-10-28T19%3A26%3A29
RIX wrote:
Think I could start a twitter fight about whether the Pillsbury Dough Boy has genitalia?
It would be EPIC
@ RIX:
I am friends with a TON of Indians, they think Apu is funny and not disrespectful in any way.
Of course, these are all Very successful people who are thrilled to be here, being more than they could ever be at home in india
For clarity…that synagogue was used by 4 congregations ranging from very conservative to very reformed
eaglesoars wrote:
I think that it is a moral imperative.
coldwarrior wrote:
The political correctness is out of hand. It is now damn near criminal to engage in harmless humor.
@ RIX:
Unless the target is a working white man
The white privilege steaks and gulf coast shrimp are done!!!
Woooooo!!!!
Judging ONLY by the number of yard signs around town, Republicans won’t be doing well this election cycle.
coldwarrior wrote:
Yup, complete double standard. they never see their hypocrisy.
In a very awesome move, the RNs at Boston medical sent a ton of pennara over to the ICU nurses at UPMC Presbyterian who were caring for the wounded.
That’s great stuff right there. Makes me proud of my profession.
coldwarrior wrote:
???
eaglesoars wrote:
Misspell
https://www.panerabread.com/en-us/home.html/
@ coldwarrior:
oh, yeah. I love their soups
@ lobo91:
TRUMP HATES PLANTS!!!!
HE’S STARVING THEM OF CO2!!!!
https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/28/jacksonville-jaguars-players-detained-london-details/
@ Daily Caller
We all know that NFL players are oppressed or something, that’s why they kneel, right?
Well, the Jaguars were in London for a game, and they have a Muslim, Businessman owner.
So they are all reeeeeeally oppressed.
The night before the game four of the oppressed lads went to a bar and ran up a $50,000 liquor tab.
That’s some serious drinking. ok, thenthey refused to pay because they thought it was comped!
Alrighty then.
@ RIX:
Someone pointed out that APU is not the only racial stereotype on the simpsons. And Homer is dumb and fat. Marge has blue hair. Bart is a reprobate. etc etc.
darkwords wrote:
Yeah, Homer is the stereotypical doofus white guy. To me he’s a role model though.
RIX wrote:
I knew it, I just knew it!!
ok, here’s something else to watch for. This is from The Hill, a publication the reports on doings on Capital Hill.
A group of Jewish leaders told President Trump that he is no longer welcome in Pittsburgh until he denounces white nationalism following the shooting at a synagogue there over the weekend.
Eleven members of the Pittsburgh affiliate of Bend the Arc: A Jewish Partnership for Justice penned a letter to Trump following the Saturday shooting at the Tree of Life Synagogue.
“Our Jewish community is not the only group you have targeted,” the group wrote. “You have also deliberately undermined the safety of people of color, Muslims, LGBTQ people, and people with disabilities. Yesterday’s massacre is not the first act of terror you incited against a minority group in our country.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/413558-jewish-leaders-say-trumps-not-welcome-in-pittsburgh-until-he
“Jewish leaders’. Interesting choice of words.
Bend the Arc looks for all the world like a front group
Bend the Arc is a movement of tens of thousands of progressive Jews all across the country. For years, we’ve worked to build a more just society. Now we’re rising up in solidarity with everyone threatened by the Trump agenda to fight for the soul of our nation
https://www.bendthearc.us/
eaglesoars wrote:
yep
We lit yahrzeit candles to honor the memories of those killed. We declared our commitment to each other and to ending white supremacy.
https://twitter.com/jewishaction/status/1056644607998595072
I’d love to get a look-see at their donor list
Sunday night in Houston. Gradually reducing my alcohol intake.
Target for zero alcohol is 1st November.
Motivated.
@ eaglesoars:
So this group ” Bend the Arc” thinks that they can ban the President of the United States from an American City?
I don’t think so.
@ eaglesoars:
I wonder what the left would complain about if Trump were to say “ I want to make this simple enough for any member of the Klan, any white supremacist, any neo-Nazi, any member of Storm Front, any fascist, communist, socialist, and even members of Antifa to understand. Anyone who believes that someone’s worth as a human being has anything to do with their skin color or their nationality is a fool. But in America, people have the right to be fools. When that foolishness turns into causing physical harm, that right ends. We will not ever tolerate violence towards our fellow Americans.”
@ eaglesoars:
https://www.jta.org/2014/01/10/news-opinion/politics/bend-the-arcs-new-leader-is-a-black-belt-with-a-radical-streak
this Bend the Arc organization. it appears that they are kooks , at least considering their new president.
She is a political agitator part of “The Resistance”, protests Israel, and was a dancer in a sex club Ala Stormy Daniels.
@ RIX:
And here’s some of her best work
How Donald Trump Is Using a Classic Sexual Abuse Tactic on Americans
of course, she’s an abuse survivor, aren’t they all.
https://www.glamour.com/story/how-donald-trump-is-using-a-classic-sexual-abuse-tactic-on-americans
I wonder if Steinem understood what she was unleashing when she said the personal is the political.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/10/28/un-freaking-believable-protesters-heckle-marsha-blackburn-during-moment-of-silence-for-tree-of-life-victims/
@ Twitchy
Protestors heckle Marsha Blackburn during moment of silence for Pittsburgh synagogue victims.
And Trump is the problem?
@ eaglesoars:
Let me see if I have this, she jumps in as a MeToo survivor of sexual abuse.
Ok, and then dances in a strip club?
Here is what keeps me up at night: At what point did contemporary American Jews lose our identity as revolutionaries? Why, as a community, have we backed away from our radical roots? Is the act of being an agitator or prophet or rabble rouser only possible for people who are structurally disempowered?
DISCONTINUING JEWISH CONTINUITY
http://jdov.org/talk/discontinuing-jewish-continuity/
RIX wrote:
hey, don’t look at me, I just post the stuff.
re: Blackburn hecklers – they just re-elected her.
…and and the shooter is a patient on mrs coldwarrior’s unit.
Oh is she gonna have fun tomorrow.
Night yinz!
right_wing2 wrote:
Well, yesterday I saw a response to one of Trump’s tweets that wanted to know who wrote it, because Trump is too illiterate to have written it. I think the guy’s name is Dworkin, his profile is something to do with being a Dem activist. Don’t know if it’s true, who knows. But his entire feed was anti-Trump, every last one. I wonder of some of these are adopted personnas who get paid to write this and flood the field.
coldwarrior wrote:
dammit. that means you can’t tell us anything.
nite. I’m out too, the heathen are baying and I have reading to catch up on.
@ right_wing2:
What the hell. Change “towards our fellow Americans” to “towards anyone, especially over a disagreement on a policy. I might disagree with what someone says, but I will defend their right to say it, even when it’s something as stupid as racism.”
eaglesoars wrote:
Yeah they did. I hope that that goofy Sinema loses in AZ too
Nice thread Barbarian. I watched as the INTERNATIONAL media demonized the Tea Party. England, Russia, Europe, & North America. My close friend from University was one of many brainwashers in chief for the obummer administration. Well into his second term she asked ME what the Tea Party was. Thanks for your description because I just told her it was from all walks of life and mostly in flyover country. If she didn’t know, then almost nobody on the left knew. But they still HATED it.
That describes leftist attitudes towards Trump. They just project their fears & prejudices onto him. Pelosi, Hilary et al have said they will do anything to win.
Germans are rightly vote thumbs down on Merkel.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-28/german-spd-leader-gives-merkel-ultimatum-after-devastating-loss
Another Government election swings to the right. Bolsonaro wins in Brazil.
https://apnews.com/c15555de1bf248a7a9ec94ab3b9418e9
There’s a very distinct yinzer dialect called ‘Pittsburgh-ese’, and some of it embodies Appalachian English. This is interesting (yes, I said ‘haint it’, instead of ‘isn’t it’ when I was little until my mother boxed it out of my ears)
The History of Appalachian English: Why We Talk Differently
http://appalachianmagazine.com/2017/11/23/the-history-of-appalachian-english-why-we-talk-differently/
https://www.blogmocracy.com/2010/04/03/saturday-morning-academia/
@ eaglesoars:
Etymology is one of my favorite subjects.
On border security within the context of the Statehood of the USA
https://amgreatness.com/2018/10/29/the-militarys-most-important-role-is-border-defense/
Black Jack Pershing would be rotating in his grave at 60 RPM!
🙂
coldwarrior wrote:
mine too. Dad was pure Appalachia, Mom was Mardi Gras Queen so I grew up hearing such different dialects and learning to speak them. Now, where YOU are it’s ‘yinz’, but go to Uniontown where I started out and it’s ‘yunz’. I was 30 yrs old before someone told me to stop droppin’ the’g’s and as whenever I hit Loozianna I answer to nothing except Miz Eagle.
@ Aussie Infidel:
well, 5000 troops is better than 800 but my guess is they’re going to weed out the gangs/child traffickers. The border is about 2000 miles wide, but I don’t know the actual area they’re going to have to cover.
@ Aussie Infidel:
Black Jack had a real reason.
Patton came from that.
This is all poseur shit.
@ eaglesoars:
I love hearing the difference when I have to go back to johnstown.
I revel in my Appalachia/ Pittsburghese.
I sound neutral when I am professional.
coldwarrior wrote:
Their accent is different. As is the Weirton accent.
Love it.
coldwarrior wrote:
IIRC, that’s a bit closer to Appalachia. Don’t they say ‘bootiful’ instead of ‘beautiful’?
eaglesoars wrote:
worshinton
wucschington
younz
yinz
coldwarrior wrote:
AHAHAHAHAHA!!
yep
This is what draining the swamp looks like
Polish Purge: Foreign Ministry Fires All Soviet-Era Moscow Academy Graduates
https://latest-today-news.com/2018/10/27/polish-purge-foreign-ministry-fires-all-soviet-era-moscow-academy-graduates/
@ eaglesoars:
Apparently the article’s author is not a fan of this purge. Something about “experienced” personnel
@ AZfederalist:
heartache
eaglesoars wrote:
😆
Yeah, I can tell you’re pretty broken up about it.
Me too.
Hey Aussie,
Under the heading WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK??
—————————
Jews no longer welcome in Sharia Australia!
Synagogues are now being BANNED because ISIS “Refugees” Might Blow them up.
https://twitter.com/AmyMek/status/1056973552325443584
oh, look what just showed up in my twitter feed!
Netflix is doing a 6 part series on – DOGS!! Nov 16.
https://twitter.com/netflix/status/1056930200326291456
off to bed, nite