Here is a nice quick one line per country history of the EU and why the members joined.
The EU, One Line Per Country
by coldwarrior ( 100 Comments › )Filed under Economy, Europe, Open thread, Politics at December 19th, 2018 - 3:06 am
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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
More direct would be, the industrial northern counties wanted easier access to other European markets and the rest were savoring others peoples money to fund their country’ssocialist programs.
No mention of Ireland though? LOL. They were a month away from economic collapse back in 1972 and didn’t have much choice.
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Funny. I look at the EU as sort of the rich north handing welfare to their warm sex vacation destinations. Travel brochures of this luxury went to Mecca and Cairo and Rabat. Free sex in France if you can get to a port. It’s why its mostly men.
This is a bit OT, but it made me feel a lot better, maybe it will do the same for you.
It’s a 16 min video from some guys who were in the courtroom (I’m not sure who the one guy is, the other one is Jack Posobiec) and he explains quite well what everyone else is reporting as Judge Sullivan going all medieval on Gen. Flynn
It’s nothing like what’s been reported
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5dEKtGJ2Zs&feature=youtu.be
It is GOOD to be The Satan
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-19/george-soros-selected-financial-times-person-year
eaglesoars wrote:
Excellent catch. I bet they don’t teach this in Law School. The judge is ‘playing 4D chess’ as one of the guys said. You have to understand the Law and Politics at the same time. The 2 are not the same. I guess the judge had to use ‘code’ to communicate the facts of the matter to Flynn & the lawyers. The continuance was a further chance to
see to it that actual justice would be done. Did I get that right?
Christmas decorating sample.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Bzfy_7GLJkk/XBZVVQLWPiI/AAAAAAABx9c/rGySDG2TZ_Awf7b66-7f7hBlcKTjEApYACHMYCw/s1600-h/pyrennee%255B3%255D
Decorator’s little helper.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Pu__aRHOLZo/XBZVgLhheZI/AAAAAAABx-M/puCAvCVvCY8UsVnkGYXCzObKR7VTIg6dwCHMYCw/s1600-h/dog-knocked-over-tree-605×540%255B4%255D
go in, kill the enemy, leave.
we are out of syria.
without nation-building and neo-con endless war.
@ eaglesoars:
@ yenta-fada:
this is all very curious.
yenta-fada wrote:
Gee boss, it seemed really nervous and excitable and then bam! next thing you know, it was on the floor! Got no idea how that happened.
@ coldwarrior:
I have a few issues but I don’t know how important they are
Where does this leave Israel?
Where does this leave the Kurds?
I’m not at all sure that ISIS won’t just seep right back in and re-constitute.
I don’t care about the Russians, Syria has been an outpost of theirs for decades, they have been defending their own turf, essentially. I sure as hell don’t want the place.
I’m concerned about the reporting on HOW this was done. Not that I necessarily trust it, but if it’s correct, it’s disturbing. Basically no consult w/military advisors?
yenta-fada wrote:
yeah, that’s their take. I’m not sure it’s correct, but they were there. Joe DiGenova, who I trust completely, is absolutely incandescent about it, but I don’t know if he was there. Also, today Sullivan went off the reservation and ordered asylum seekers who have been deported to be brought back. What the actual fuck?
Sydney Powell is terribly confused. She lauded Sullivan in her book and said she’s waiting to see what questions Sullivan sends to counsel. I don’t know what questions she’s talking about, I’m just reporting what she said.
I’m still depressed. This has not been a good week. This bump stock ban is terrifying.
AZfederalist wrote:
Thank God you’re home, the tree fainted!
That’s just one of the captions I’ve seen.
yenta-fada wrote:
Sometimes I just wish we could get the shooting over and done with, ya know?
@ eaglesoars:
I haven’t been paying attention to the markets. Is there some new kind of U.S. rule regarding stocks? I stopped watching for mental health reasons.
eaglesoars wrote:
It’s all cosmic rays from space. We’re gonna have to ride out the crazy times.
Rays from space. That’s the ticket.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8HjgGBgf1jY/XAu-K1urNGI/AAAAAAABx0I/hLxw4uUFuHMHW04zD4tADiZJtY0rUbeYQCHMYCw/s1600-h/illegals%255B7%255D
Christmas advert from England. Buster the Boxer.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/4qo27xcVS5I
yenta-fada wrote:
yeah, the rule is the Fed will do everything in its power to slow down the economy to hurt Trump by not only raising rates but telling everybody that it intends to continue to do so, and fuck all of you HA HA HA
@ eaglesoars:
“incandescent” Adjective of the day. 🙂
yenta-fada wrote:
oh that is fabulous. John Lewis is famous for its Christmas adverts
eaglesoars wrote:
Isn’t raising interest rates part of the ‘Currency Wars’? It was bound to happen. The low rates near zero were artificial. Good for borrowers and mortgages, hell on seniors and other conservative savers.
eaglesoars wrote:
OK, Deep State has made its next move. What is Trump going to do? In the past, he has moved the game. Not sure what will happen next.
This is depressing as all get out; it’s like the Deep State wants the US economy to tank and things to fall apart.
eaglesoars wrote:
I thought you would appreciate it. 🙂
eaglesoars wrote:
israel is a big boy and a very powerful sovereign state who have handled the scum in that area of the world quite nicely. frankly, we need to let israel be israel and get out of their way a little more often.
we have zero strategic interest in syria, if need be we can go in and destroy things and kill the enemy and leave again.
eaglesoars wrote:
dunno.
eaglesoars wrote:
when you are a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
eaglesoars wrote:
and get blown up by us again. its almost like a training exercise. they are no match for us at all.
yenta-fada wrote:
when the Fed broadcasts to businesses that there ain’t gonna be no money, honey, for the next year, do you think they make plans to hire/expand? That’s war, but not currency war
@ AZfederalist:
The deep state is full up with international Socialists & Communists. They have been pushing for chaos for years so they can buy assets for pennies on the dollar. Or pence on the pound depending upon how Brexit goes.
eaglesoars wrote:
we need rates back up to over 4% at least.
that does four things, it fights inflation, rewards saving, attracts foreign investment, and buys ammo for the next recession.
we were the first to do a kamikaze dive with interest rates, the rest of the world followed and then we stopped in mid-air and reversed course. monetary easing worked for us. the rest of the world had to continue the dive, it was like playing chicken.
central bankers are killers. ours are the best in the world. central banking is war by other means. we will have room to lower rates when the next recession comes, no one else has room. this is very important.
@ coldwarrior:
I agree on the stragegic interest part. I can only assume we have hunter teams going after ISIS in other areas so we don’t have to go back in force anywhere. I don’t know if that’s a reasonable assumption.
I’m unhappy about how the bump stock ban was done and just in case all of you missed it…
this was done thru regulatory, NOT legislative procedures. Nobody voted on nuthin. An accessory to a weapon, that had been legal, has just been made RETROACTIVELY illegal. You have 90 days to get rid of it before you become a felon.
If that stands, there is not much to prevent the same procedure from confiscation of all sorts of stuff.
I think bump stocks are dumb, so I don’t have one but what anybody else does is not my business. I think there are about to be a lot of unfortunate boating accidents
yenta-fada wrote:
yep. strong dollar policy set by the executive.
dollars are more attractive.
@ eaglesoars:
it will go through the courts and get shot down and by then everyone will have forgotten about it.
this was a throw away issue
and yes, bump stocks are stupid. but, if you like to feed your AR and not hit the target, whatever.
coldwarrior wrote:
are you trying to make me feel better?
No, I know you’re serious. I keep hearing that the next recession is just around the corner but I don’t understand what everybody is looking at.
And does the Fed have to act NOW?? It feels like the economy is just getting started…………….
eaglesoars wrote:
lets get some perspective here
coldwarrior wrote:
It is. Even the NRA said it doesn’t give a leap if the things get banned.
The question remains – how did this happen? I swear, I’m gonna start heating up the tar in a big iron pot on my deck.
eaglesoars wrote:
i dont really see a recession coming yet. but there will be one.
the fed needs to act quickly and clear the decks in order to have credibility and ammo
@ coldwarrior:
Other nations will run to the relative safety of the U.S. dollar as volatility increases. Canadian dollar down to 74 cents now, so our purchasing power sinks literally overnight these days. There are a fantastic number of moving parts in the global economy. A lot depends on where you are standing while you watch.
eaglesoars wrote:
stout hemp rope and phone poles are a little easier
tar is sloppy and smells bad, and its difficult to use effectively.
yenta-fada wrote:
yep.
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/gross-domestic-product-charts
we are almost out of the depression that have been in since 2000
more perspective
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/dollar-index-charts
GERMANTOWN, Md. (WJZ) — A Salvation Army bell ringer is likely to face criminal charges after he allegedly ingested PCP and assaulted a customer outside a Walmart.
The incident happened Dec. 12 in Germantown.
Officers were called to the store after 40-year-old David Kelley allegedly stopped collecting donations and licked vials that appeared to contain oil.
Witnesses say Kelley appeared agitated, shouted obscenities, and hit a customer in the face shortly after.
HOHOHO!!!!
My computer is acting glitchy. ‘night mockers.
@ coldwarrior:
BAD SANTA.
@ coldwarrior:
the chart isn’t displaying correctly. Purple lines on a black background, although I can see a grid.
I have to turn in. Mia is whining to go to bed. I’ll check back tomorrow
coldwarrior wrote:
Up the back of the river shit with no paddle in sight!
🙂
coldwarrior wrote:
eaglesoars wrote:
Quite reasonable
The 2000 boots on the ground in Syria can hardly defend themselves so the US has effectively already left the place. It’s the Syrians and Russians to bleed a bit now as well as the Turks.
Alas the Kurds are up shit street and the Turks will be looking to get even. There will be more Turkish incursions into Syria and push back from the Syrians backed up by the Russians. Hezbollah and to a much lesser extent Hamas will give Israel grief on occasion but nothing that they can’t handle.
Remember that the US remains in Jordan and Iraq where there are a lot of training teams working with the Sunnis. The Shi’a in the South have fallen out of love with the Iranian Shi’a after the poor showing by Iran in Yemen where they can’t even stabilise the border with the Saudis.
Please allow the Arabs to do what they do best.
Kill others Arabs!
Please NO MORE NATION building !
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/19/top-der-spiegel-journalist-resigns-over-fake-interviews
and there are so many more
rats with cute tails.
https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2018/12/20/deer_are_a_menace_and_we_need_to_kill_a_lot_more_of_them.html
nasty nasty animals.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/12/ted-malloch-speaks-out-on-the-real-russia-collusion-how-the-media-got-the-trump-russia-dossier/
@ Gateway Pundit
Good morning. This is a good read laying out McCains role in the Russian dossier.
He has been gone long enough to point out that he was a bitter, narcissistic old man.
I am sure that he left the planet proud of this mess.
https://thewildernessofmirrors.wordpress.com/2018/12/20/congress-got-some-splaining-to-do/
Five nations, namely the United States, Israel, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Poland, voted against the compact, while 12 countries abstained.
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/united-nations-votes-in-favor-of-the-global-compact-for-migration-usa-voted-no/
The University of South-Eastern Norway said on its website that both women were studying to earn bachelor’s degrees in outdoor life, culture and ecophilosophy. They attended a campus in Boe, southern Norway and west of Oslo.
a degree in what????
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12180379
well, it got yinz beheaded on the side of a mountain by a muzz.
coldwarrior wrote:
shitting in the woods
@ coldwarrior:
Armstrong:
“The Fed MUST raise rates to help the crisis in Pension funds. It raised the Fed Funds Rate (what banks charge each other) 25 basis points to 2.25-2.5%. While the Fed indicated there would be two more rate hikes in 2019, what has gone over everyone’s head is exactly what I have been warning about. We are witnessing indeed not a Currency War but a Central Bank War.”
Does he mean a war between the world’s Central Banks? For some well founded reason I think that could mean a war between the Central Banks and the ‘little people’ they arrogantly reign over. I don’t experience them as being on my side through the years of their playing with my world.
eaglesoars wrote:
If only they had been as truly islamaphobic as we all SHOULD be. They are busy up here making islamophobia a CRIMINAL offense as a hate crime. No other group, just the tarded muzz. Headed for Sharia Law like homing pigeons. Canuck buck below 74 cents today towards 73 along with a lower price of oil.
Ann Coulter is running the WH.
No, I kid. I think. Trump just finished up a meeting w/GOP House members and told them to put their big boy pants on or he’s shutting the place down. Go find $5B
yenta-fada wrote:
pension funds!! That’s not going to save them and even if it would, that’s not economically justifiable. You don’t fuck around with the global economy to save some Chicago aldermans’ greedy asses
This is funny
When Trump’s young social media manager saw the tweet, he was perplexed. He typically typed and sent Trump’s tweets for the boss, but in this case he hadn’t. He did recall that Trump had been spending a lot of time in his office lately playing around with a new Android smartphone.
The next morning, the handful of staffers with access to the boss’ account told the social media manager, Justin McConney, that they had not sent it either.
That’s when it dawned on him: Donald Trump had tweeted on his own for the first time.
“The moment I found out Trump could tweet himself was comparable to the moment in ‘Jurassic Park’ when Dr. Grant realized that velociraptors could open doors,” recalled McConney, who was the Trump Organization’s director of social media from 2011 to 2017. “I was like, ‘Oh no.'”
When Trump Learned To Tweet
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/20/oh-no-the-day-trump-learned-to-tweet-1070789?cid=apn
Lp gas fireplace for the back deck. Now I won’t freeze during my daily cigar.
Global cooling be damned!
@ eaglesoars:
These are pension funds in the Western world’s governments. Certainly not just Chicago. Think Government workers, and anyone else mandated to keep a good share of assets in fixed income (bond) funds. Insurance companies who manage annuities are hosed when they can’t get something like 6-8% on their money. Those insurance companies are bound by law to have a certain percentage ‘conservatively’ invested.
You are getting sleepy… z-z-z-z.
@ yenta-fada:
i knew a bunch of life long steel workers who lost their pension when the industry went tits up.
fuck these govt employees, let them feel the pain and starve. they are maggots or leeches. pick one.
thats what frosts me, no one went to the aid of joe kzysinki when he lost everything.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/20/ryan-says-trump-will-not-sign-senate-passed-bill-to-avoid-government-shutdown.html
😉 nice.
time for negotiations, with the master
coldwarrior wrote:
My retirement plan includes various options, one of which is a lump sum payout, based upon top N years salary, your age, and the GATT rates. The other options are various company paid pensions. I have no intention of placing my future retirement income in the hands of a company more dedicated to diversity than innovation.
it is time to leave afghanitan too, leave it for the chinese.
and sit back and watch…with popcorn
coldwarrior wrote:
Grump grump… I still say we should nuke the place back to the big bang on our way out the door. Leave only the cockroaches and Keef alive.
@ AZfederalist:
it was what was done. go to the mill after the military, work until your 60 and get a decent retirement…and die by 70 from industrial disease.
this was the 70’s and 80’s…its how it worked. until it collapsed and those guys who bought into that social contract got burned, burned for their life’s work. i know guys who di 30 years making steel and then one day…poof…no pension, no nothing. all this diversification and 401’s are a recent development. no one stood up to help these guys.
yeah, fuck the govt employees, let them go on welfare. let them get destroyed too.
coldwarrior wrote:
Jennifer Griffin said Mattis was asked to leave, resignation wasn’t his choice.
I’d feel a lot better about staying if somebody could give me the outlines of the situation where it would be ok for us to leave and we could work toward that.
It’s the old “What does winning look like?” question.
@ coldwarrior:
The public pensions in Illinois are mandated in the state Constitution. They made that bed, I could care less
doriangrey wrote:
I think today is his birfday
@ doriangrey:
let the chinese have it.
had i been in charge, everything, all of it form the smallest infant to the oldest man, from the moss to the sand beetle would have been vaporized and then every saudi village and city and all of its citizens hunted down and killed.
after that, the muzz world would never be a problem again.
instead, we, like the russians before us, and like the brits before them, waste treasure and men in afghanistan.
it isnt worth it. either use persistent chemical agents or heavy radiation and be done with it.
@ eaglesoars:
when you are a hammer, the word looks like nails.
Trump this morning
Does the USA want to be the Policeman of the Middle East, getting NOTHING but spending precious lives and trillions of dollars protecting others who, in almost all cases, do not appreciate what we are doing? Do we want to be there forever? Time for others to finally fight…..
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1075721703421042688
@ eaglesoars:
trump read his kipling
eaglesoars wrote:
let them rot.
WASHINGTON (AP) — Defense Secretary Jim Mattis abruptly said he was resigning Thursday, a day after President Donald Trump overruled his advice against pulling troops out of Syria and pressed forward on discussions to withdraw forces from Afghanistan.
Mattis, perhaps the most respected foreign policy official in Trump’s administration, will leave by the end of February after two tumultuous years struggling to soften and moderate the president’s hardline and sometimes sharply changing policies. He told Trump in a letter that he was leaving because “you have a right to have a Secretary of Defense whose views are better aligned with yours.”—
you do what your boss tells you. do you really want us to stay in afghanistan forever????
i’m losing respect for the warrior monk.
coldwarrior wrote:
According to our many betters, the man is all but illiterate
The other thing not being mentioned is that Obama let our military rot. I’d much rather take the money we are spending on these deployments and use it to rebuild instead.
One thing I think I don’t like – we are giving Patriot missiles to Turkey. We shouldn’t be giving those fuckers sling shots. The PKK are commie bastards but not our problem. The GOOD Kurds, however – it looks like we’re screwing them
@ eaglesoars:
we have the source code and complete control over these missiles, the MSE backbone that operates them, and everything that they see.
trojan horse.
AZfederalist wrote:
I have the lump sum option too. I can take out 25% of my pension fund tax free. That money would by me a forever home somewhere.
What is left in it should pay me enough to get by on if I am careful.
My gut feeling is at my age I would be sensible to buy a home outright with the 25% .
That is just a company pension from a place I worked for 12 years in the UK.
In another 5 years I get my UK government pension, no idea what that will be, over 50% of my working life I have been in the USA.
Plus, in another few years Uncle Sam will start paying me social security.
So, basically, at the moment I don’t have a clue where I will retire to and how much retirement income I will have.
LOL 🙂
coldwarrior wrote:
!!!
@ coldwarrior:
Mattis misunderstood his role in the Administration. Trump got the votes no one in the cabinet got even one.
Mathis is an honorable man, but he interviewed for the job and should have known that he and the president would not always be in sync. He should have asked those questions in the interview.
@ lobo91:
like TOTALLY knows the Bible
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/12/exclusive-mattis-considered-presidential-run-in-2020-according-to-leaked-nda-obtained-by-gateway-pundit/
@ Gateway Pundit
This is interesting, Mattis apparently has presidential aspirations.
If true it explains a lot, but not realistic.
@ RIX:
if there is ANBODY’S name on that doc, i missed it. Also this: “A run in the 2020 republican primary for president”
‘republican’ should be capitalized and ‘president’ should read ‘President of the United States’. Lawyers are really picky about this stuff. Or should be.
Crap document. So I call bullshit
@ eaglesoars:
Yeah, I don’t see Mattis running for president.
Something the citizens of The United States of America is oblivious to.
Gatwick.
We The People Will Fund The Wall
https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall/
$9,403,241.00
Possum wrote:
The only place I’ve seen it is in the Brit press. That’s a real nat’l security issue, you’d think we’d see something.
eaglesoars wrote:
Second largest UK airport shut down. 150,000 passengers a day.
lobo91 wrote:
Yeah, he’s an idiot. Do you think Mary & Joseph snuck across the border into Egypt? They entered legally and it is widely speculated that the gifts from the magi were what provided them their ability to live there while they were refugees. Yes, there were refugees to entered various countries during that time, but the monarchs then were even more paranoid about their borders and infiltrators than even today.
@ AZfederalist:
Well, Egypt was also part of the Roman empire and they were on the road to go home for the census, a legal requirement.
@ eaglesoars:
They were in Bethlehem because of the census, that was what got them there. They fled to Egypt when Joseph was warned that Herod was going to try to kill the child. Egypt was a temporary refuge where they stayed until Herod died.
My money is on Donald J Trump.
coldwarrior wrote:
And the union people crawled away.
This is why I preach to end social security to the younger Cousins and replace it with a portable pension, with a minimum contribution which is matched by the employer, under their personal control and not the state or a union.
coldwarrior wrote:
Just ask the Iraq army. First night of the Desert Storm their whole air defence system quit. They were using an integrated European and Soviet radars and SAM and AA systems, all tied together with a French built C3 (Command/Control/Communications) network.
I knew of an Iraqi AA battalion commander who was interogated and he told us the whole system crashed the first night before the first bomb dropped.
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