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  • Harley and Economic Propaganda

    by coldwarrior ( 111 Comments › )
    Filed under Economy, Open thread at April 25th, 2019 - 12:06 pm

    The recent news has Harley-Davidson complaining about tariffs and the difficulties it causes for their profit. This is pure economic propaganda espoused by the company and the never-Trumpers.

    Harley is losing market share and has declining profit because THEY REFUSE TO LOOK AT THE MARKET. It’s simple, does Cadillac still make the awesomely huge pimp-mobile El Dorado? Is Ford moving away from sedans? See how this goes? Look at your market and adjust to what sells. Harley makes an obnoxiously loud, heavy, expensive motorcycle that less and less people want. The Boomers are the last generation who will buy that bike at those numbers. I rode motorcycles for years and refused to own a Harley. Too heavy, too cumbersome, too expensive for what you get, and the owners tend toward being obnoxious look-at-me weekend warrior assholes who had to have loud pipes to draw attention to themselves and their shiny rattle. I would regularly put on 10k miles a year. That’s a lot for a motorcycle. The Harley riders rarely wave at anyone else other than other Harley riders. All other non-Harley motorcyclists wave to each other tho, as is custom. This myopic attitude is reflected in the management at Harley as well.

    SO, does Harley adjust? Will they make a motorcycle to compete with the Japanese, English, and Germans? No, they won’t. They will take the arrogant way out and end up in bankruptcy because they can’t see that making an El Dorado will not sell in a market of fast and stylish CUV’s. I don’t think Harley is capable of seeing the market, partly because of an incredibly overblown ego and partly because, well…obnoxiousness, arrogance, and ignorance.

    Don’t blame Trump, you chuckleheads…look in the mirror and look at your market.

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    111 Responses to “Harley and Economic Propaganda”
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    1. Bordm
      1 | April 25, 2019 1:36 pm

      Happy Birthday eaglesoars!


    2. coldwarrior
      2 | April 25, 2019 3:01 pm

      @ Bordm:
      Woooohooooooo!!!!!!


    3. coldwarrior
      3 | April 25, 2019 4:27 pm

      heh…biden is going to announce at Teamster Temple in PGH, my old local union.

      funny thing, no one was going to show up according to some friends of mine. so he will ship in AFSCME and UFCW and SEIU types.

      he is gunning for PA, where unemployment just hit the lowest number ever recorded. he’ll get he ‘commie public union’ vote but lose the trades and teamsters. trump is very popular with the steel workers, iron workers, coal miners, crafts, electricians, heavy machine operators, rail road, teamsters, etc…yinz know. the real workers not the AFSCME/SEIU public sector shitbags


    4. coldwarrior
      4 | April 25, 2019 4:34 pm

      i went over to UPS to ship a package and the parking lot had a lot of ‘TRUMP/MAGA’ action there. (teamsters)

      good luck joe.


    5. eaglesoars
      5 | April 25, 2019 5:44 pm

      @ Bordm:
      @ coldwarrior:

      Thanks!

      coldwarrior wrote:

      heh…biden is going to announce at Teamster Temple in PGH, my old local union.

      funny thing, no one was going to show up according to some friends of mine. so he will ship in AFSCME and UFCW and SEIU types.

      check this out

      JOE BIDEN LAUNCHES PRESIDENTIAL BID WITH FUNDRAISER FILLED WITH CORPORATE LOBBYISTS AND GOP DONORS

      https://theintercept.com/2019/04/25/joe-biden-presidential-bid-lobbyists-fundraiser/


    6. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      6 | April 25, 2019 6:29 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ Bordm:
      @ coldwarrior:

      Thanks!

      coldwarrior wrote:

      heh…biden is going to announce at Teamster Temple in PGH, my old local union.

      funny thing, no one was going to show up according to some friends of mine. so he will ship in AFSCME and UFCW and SEIU types.

      check this out

      JOE BIDEN LAUNCHES PRESIDENTIAL BID WITH FUNDRAISER FILLED WITH CORPORATE LOBBYISTS AND GOP DONORS

      https://theintercept.com/2019/04/25/joe-biden-presidential-bid-lobbyists-fundraiser/

      Happy Birthday.


    7. rain of lead
      7 | April 25, 2019 6:31 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      happy birthday!

      have a song

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dV1myAW2Cs


    8. RIX
      8 | April 25, 2019 8:16 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVyzhT_STwI
      Eagle HappyBirthday!


    9. lobo91
      9 | April 25, 2019 8:25 pm

      Massachusetts Judge, Trial Court Officer Indicted On Federal Charges For Helping Illegal Alien Evade ICE Officer

      Federal authorities are charging a Massachusetts District Court judge and a trial court officer with obstruction of justice and other crimes, according to an indictment obtained by 5 Investigates.

      Judge Shelley M. Richmond Joseph and Wesley MacGregor, the trial court officer, are accused of conspiring to prevent Immigration and Customs Enforcement from taking an immigrant into custody at Newton District Court on April 2, 2018.

      The immigrant, who had been deported twice before, was arrested four days earlier for narcotics possession and being a fugitive from justice in Pennsylvania. When his fingerprints were taken, ICE became aware of the arrest.

      ICE issued an order for a federal immigration detainer and sent an officer to the courthouse.

      In the courtroom, Joseph ordered the courtroom recording device to be turned off for 52 seconds in order to conceal a conversation about getting the immigrant out of the courthouse, the indictment said.

      According to the indictment filed by Lelling’s office, MacGregor agreed with the immigrant’s defense attorney to release the immigrant through a rear door in order to evade the federal officers. Joseph participated by creating a pretext for the immigrant to be brought downstairs for “further interview” so he could be released through that door, the indictment said.

      Joseph and MacGregor face charges of obstruction of justice, conspiracy to obstruct justice and obstruction of a federal proceeding, the indictment said. MacGregor is also charged with perjury on suspicion of giving false testimony to a federal grand jury that was reviewing the case.

      “The allegations in today’s indictment involve obstruction by a sitting judge, that is intentional interference with the enforcement of federal law, and that is a crime,” Lelling said. “We cannot pick and choose the federal laws we follow, or use our personal views to justify violating the law.”


    10. lobo91
      10 | April 25, 2019 8:25 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Happy birthday!


    11. RIX
      11 | April 25, 2019 8:29 pm

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/04/insane-video-mad-rush-in-bangladesh-as-tickets-to-avengers-endgame-go-on-sale/
      @ Gateway Pundit
      Tickets go on sale in Bangladesh for something called “Avengers Endgame”
      You won’t believe this video. Imagine when “Star Wars the Colonoscopy” comes out.


    12. 12 | April 25, 2019 8:31 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Happy Birthday!


    13. eaglesoars
      13 | April 25, 2019 9:00 pm

      Thanks everybody!

      So, look who Biden is hiring.

      ANITA DUNN??!! Seriously?

      And that freak Symone Sanders

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6961389/Biden-campaigns-hires-include-onetime-Harvey-Weinstein-adviser-former-Bernie-spokeswoman.html

      We blew a circuit, the breaker won’t flip back into position, so we have – NO TV! And both business computers are out. But I’ve my own computers and the radio, so I’m fine. Hubby, however, is an absolute bear.


    14. lobo91
      14 | April 25, 2019 9:03 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Try unplugging everything that’s connected to that circuit first and then try the breaker again


    15. Aussie Infidel
      15 | April 25, 2019 9:09 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Many Happy Returns Eagles

      Like a classic wine you only get better with age.

      🙂


    16. Aussie Infidel
      16 | April 25, 2019 9:17 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Thanks everybody!

      So, look who Biden is hiring.

      ANITA DUNN??!! Seriously?

      And that freak Symone Sanders

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6961389/Biden-campaigns-hires-include-onetime-Harvey-Weinstein-adviser-former-Bernie-spokeswoman.html

      We blew a circuit, the breaker won’t flip back into position, so we have – NO TV! And both business computers are out. But I’ve my own computers and the radio, so I’m fine. Hubby, however, is an absolute bear.

      Tell hubby that he is a snowflake.

      I changed ISP and phone providers. Alas I forgot that ALL of my systems are controlled through an i-Pad. It needs reprogramming so I’VE HAD ZIP FOR A WEEK already due to Easter and then the ANZAC Day holiday.

      Been ‘beaching it’ where there is a stock standard TV and somehowI am still getting wireless support from my old ISP. They seem to have forgotten about the additional wireless MODEM for now.

      🙂


    17. eaglesoars
      17 | April 25, 2019 9:24 pm

      oh goody.

      Mike Pence’s chief of staff’s wife was working for – wait for it – Peter Stzrok.

      The texts and sources reveal that Strzok had one significant contact within the White House – Vice President Mike Pence’s Chief of Staff Joshua Pitcock, whose wife was working as an analyst for Strzok on the FBI’s investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private server. A senior White House official told this news site that Pitcock’s wife recused herself from the Clinton investigation as soon as Pence and Trump became the Republican nominees in July 2016. A senior law enforcement official also told SaraACarter.com that Pitcock’s wife no longer worked under Strzok after she recused herself from the Clinton investigation.

      But she recused herself. uh huh. She was the ‘back channel’ Strzok used to brief Pence on Flynn. Jesus.

      https://saraacarter.com/breaking-fbi-texts-show-agents-discussed-recruiting-white-house-sources-to-spy-for-bureau/


    18. Possum
      18 | April 25, 2019 9:40 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      OK, you know when a breaker trips you have to then move it to the “off” position to reset it before it will turn on again.

      Breakers trip for a reason.

      Disconnect everything on that circuit except for a table lamp.

      Then if you reset the breaker and the table lamp flashes briefly or not at all and the breaker trips again you may have a short in the house wiring.

      Breakers are plug in. Try swapping it with a breaker from another circuit.

      If the swapped in breaker trips you definitely have a house wiring short somewhere.


    19. eaglesoars
      19 | April 25, 2019 9:40 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      Try unplugging everything that’s connected to that circuit first and then try the breaker again

      I thought of that. And I did try resetting every GFI I can find. But Hubby decided to go to bed early and in the mood he’s in, that’s a damn good birthday present, so I’m not going to try to fix anything. Also, I have no idea what’s plugged into what circuit. I’m fine w/o TV for a day or 2, I usually use it as my caller id so I don’t have to run to the phone, it’s on mute. And in a few minutes, Hubby is going to be on mute, too, which is even better.

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      Happy Anzac Day!


    20. eaglesoars
      20 | April 25, 2019 9:47 pm

      Ok, I have names. Pence’s chief of staff was Josh Pitcock, left in Aug 2017. His wife is one Katherine Seaman, I don’t know if she’s still FBI.

      The way I’m reading this, Pitcock was a bit of an FBI mole during his tenure but that may be a bit too strong a word.


    21. eaglesoars
      21 | April 25, 2019 10:02 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Pence’s chief of staff was Josh Pitcock, left in Aug 2017.

      what I’m seeing is that he was fired. but I’m not confirming that one yet.


    22. lobo91
      22 | April 25, 2019 10:05 pm

      Jack Posobiec
      ✝️
      ‏Verified account @JackPosobiec

      BREAKING: White House aides are concerned fmr Pence Chief of Staff Joshua Pitcock may have left behind FBI listening devices after learning his wife worked for Peter Strzok
      6:07 PM – 25 Apr 2019


    23. eaglesoars
      23 | April 25, 2019 10:13 pm

      @ lobo91:

      oh, I’m pretty sure that the nano second they had the goods on this guy, everything was swept. the question is, when did they know. He left in Jul/Aug 2017, apparently NOT officially fired (that would have hit the news and generated a lot of questions), but we don’t know anything really other than the position his wife held. Those are dots, we’re not sure how they’re connected. He may have been pure as the driven snow.

      Or he may have been an unwitting tool who woke up and resigned in guilt. We don’t know anything yet.


    24. lobo91
      24 | April 25, 2019 10:13 pm


    25. eaglesoars
      25 | April 25, 2019 10:25 pm

      @ lobo91:

      who IS that?? really bad wig, good work!

      I gather that during his Hannity interview, Trump said he’s going to declassify EVERYTHING.

      But I don’t think it’s that straightforward. The agencies have to sign off on the stuff,too, and they have, I believe, veto power.


    26. eaglesoars
      26 | April 25, 2019 10:28 pm

      I CANNOT figure out Rosenstein. Maybe he was running his own sting op, but, dammit, he signed those FISA docs and that’s just damning.

      Anyway, here’s part of a speech he gave tonite. He doesn’t sound like a happy camper about the way things went down.

      https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1121600409821417474


    27. eaglesoars
      27 | April 25, 2019 10:40 pm

      Bedtime. Some jokester is predicting a Biden/Romney ticket. The Moron and the Mormon.

      nite.


    28. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      28 | April 25, 2019 11:45 pm

      Not sure what’s going on but according to my little news things that pop up on my phone browser it looks like the mayor of Baltimore may be only days from a perp walk. IRS and FBI both involved.


    29. Aussie Infidel
      29 | April 26, 2019 1:54 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Happy Anzac Day!

      Ta !

      🙂


    30. rain of lead
      30 | April 26, 2019 6:13 am

      morning y’all
      some funny to start your day
      THE DAY COLLUSION DIED – Parody of American Pie |

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqn3iI_h1vg&list=RDEqn3iI_h1vg&start_radio=1&t=17


    31. RIX
      31 | April 26, 2019 8:23 am

      https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/apr/24/kamala-harris-ex-dealers-first-profit-legal-weed/
      @ Washington times.
      Remember Marie Harf talking about Jobs for Jihadis? Now Kampala Harris wants a Criminal Set Aside in the legal drug trade.


    32. coldwarrior
      32 | April 26, 2019 8:41 am

      @ RIX:
      Your spell checker is most ironic.


    33. coldwarrior
      33 | April 26, 2019 8:50 am

      https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/nyc-bans-processed-meats-to-improve-the-climate/

      No NYC coney’s, no pastrami, morons.

      You get exactly what you deserve, NYC.


    34. coldwarrior
      34 | April 26, 2019 9:01 am

      https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/26/gdp-q1-2019-first-read.html

      3.2% … topping expectations. Fascinating how that keeps happening


    35. RIX
      35 | April 26, 2019 9:03 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ RIX:
      Your spell checker is most ironic.

      Yeah, who is Kampala?


    36. coldwarrior
      36 | April 26, 2019 9:03 am

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      First-quarter GDP expanded by 3.2% in the first quarter, the Bureau of Economic Analysis said in its initial read of the economy for that period. Economists polled by Dow Jones expected the U.S. economy increased by 2.5% in the first quarter. It was the first time since 2013 that first-quarter GDP topped 3%.

      “The upside beat was helped by net trade (exports jumped while imports contracted sharply) and inventories which combined contributed almost 170 bps of the rise,” wrote Peter Boockvar, chief investment officer at Bleakley Advisory Group. “Personal spending though, the biggest component was up just 1.2%, two tenths more than expected as an increase in spending on services and nondurable goods offset a decline in spending on durable goods.”


    37. coldwarrior
      37 | April 26, 2019 9:16 am

      @ RIX:
      Kampala is the capital of Uganda.


    38. eaglesoars
      38 | April 26, 2019 9:20 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/nyc-bans-processed-meats-to-improve-the-climate/

      No NYC coney’s, no pastrami, morons.

      You get exactly what you deserve, NYC.

      Here’s what I can’t figure out about this: Where’s the bribe? deBlasio does nothing w/o a quid pro quo and I have no idea where it’s coming from on this one.

      RIX wrote:

      Now Kampala Harris wants a Criminal Set Aside in the legal drug trade.

      Actually, she stole that idea from AOC. Remember when AOC was talking about legalization and she said licenses should first go to minorities because they had suffered the most from weed being illegal? Unfortunately, Colorado is a lot whiter than the Bronx, so she’d probably have to import some people from the cartels or something.

      Oh. wait.


    39. eaglesoars
      39 | April 26, 2019 9:59 am

      In a letter to AG William Barr, Sen. Grassley seems to suggest that Obama’s FBI spied on the Trump transition using the spouse of Pence’s chief of staff to insert FBI moles into the Trump transition team and disguising sting ops on Trump’s team as formal FBI briefings for them.

      excerpts of the letter at link.

      https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1121774869144850433


    40. eaglesoars
      40 | April 26, 2019 10:15 am

      Our electrical issue is fixed. It was the NEW light bulb. The base was corroded and there was a little metal piece that was causing a short.

      This is how wars get started. Stupid crap that nobody thinks of.


    41. coldwarrior
      41 | April 26, 2019 1:27 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Sadly, Obama will never have to answer for this.


    42. coldwarrior
      42 | April 26, 2019 1:28 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Good thing it didn’t cause a fire.


    43. eaglesoars
      43 | April 26, 2019 1:43 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      Sadly, Obama will never have to answer for this.

      Maybe not legally. Politically, historically, tho – he most definitely will. His ‘legacy’ isn’t going to be anything like what he was shooting for.

      But legally – I want Hillary.

      As for a fire – I had a ‘just in case’ frame of mind and kept that lamp unplugged. I’ve had my fill of house fires.


    44. eaglesoars
      44 | April 26, 2019 1:48 pm

      Because nobody wants to be around the Democratic Party the day after losing to Trump twice. Nobody’s gonna be forgiven for that.

      Chris Matthews is worried about the crazy? Does he realize where he works? Does he have a mirror?

      https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kyle-drennen/2019/04/26/worried-matthews-warns-dems-sober-fears-another-mcgovern


    45. AZfederalist
      45 | April 26, 2019 2:15 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      In a letter to AG William Barr, Sen. Grassley seems to suggest that Obama’s FBI spied on the Trump transition using the spouse of Pence’s chief of staff to insert FBI moles into the Trump transition team and disguising sting ops on Trump’s team as formal FBI briefings for them.

      excerpts of the letter at link.

      https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1121774869144850433

      This seems to be borderline sedition.


    46. eaglesoars
      46 | April 26, 2019 2:44 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      oh, be fair. These are the folks who hate borders.


    47. eaglesoars
      47 | April 26, 2019 2:56 pm

      This is gonna be fun!

      BREAKING: New US District Court filing shows defense lawyers in Russian trolling case have demanded judge hold Mueller in criminal contempt for making allegations against IRA/Concord in his final report that were not made in the indictment, including that it was a Russian govt op

      https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1121815341489893378


    48. eaglesoars
      48 | April 26, 2019 3:35 pm

      This is an in-depth discussion of what’s behind the new reporting procedures for UFOs the Navy is developing.

      https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/27666/what-the-hell-is-going-on-with-ufos-and-department-of-defense

      Included in the discussion is the Tic-Tac incident of 2004, lasting SEVERAL DAYS. Which I knew nothing about, a disgrace if I say so myself.

      When it comes to the so-called “Tic Tac” incident that involved the Nimitz Carrier Strike Group off the Baja Peninsula in 2004, conclusions that are nearly impossible not to draw from it are so reality warping that even the forward-thinking aerospace community doesn’t seem to have even begun coming to terms with them.

      The main revelation is that technology exists that is capable of performing flying maneuvers that shatter our perceptions of propulsion, flight controls, material science, and even physics. Let me underline this again for you, the Nimitz encounter with the Tic Tac proved that exotic technology that is widely thought of as the domain of science fiction actually exists. It is real. It isn’t the result of altered perception, someone’s lucid dream, a stray weather balloon, or swamp gas. Someone or something has crossed the technological Rubicon and has obtained what some would call the Holy Grail of aerospace engineering.

      There are videos. I’m off to watch them.


    49. coldwarrior
      49 | April 26, 2019 3:52 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      There are videos. I’m off to watch them.

      i need to watch these.

      thx!


    50. eaglesoars
      50 | April 26, 2019 4:24 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      let me know what you think

      Josh Pitcock, Pence’s former chief of staff, and his wife, former Strzok colleague, have issued a statement. I can’t copy, but it says they have no idea what this is about, they didn’t spy on anyone, no one used them. You can read it here

      https://twitter.com/45_Schedule/status/1121826545918726144

      And Pence is apparently demanding an investigation because 2 ‘disgraced’ FBI people behaved like the scum they are


    51. Possum
      51 | April 26, 2019 4:52 pm

      American electric codes are crap. I much prefer the British electrical codes.

      Each appliance is protected by its own fuse in the plug.

      A fault in an appliance blows the fuse in the plug,.


    52. coldwarrior
      52 | April 26, 2019 5:28 pm

      Lucas Electric….

      http://mez.co.uk/lucas.html

      🙂


    53. eaglesoars
      53 | April 26, 2019 5:53 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      Jaguar?


    54. Possum
      54 | April 26, 2019 6:00 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      Lucas Electric….

      http://mez.co.uk/lucas.html

      That is cars. Fucking look up UK household wiring, 30 amp ring main, fuses in appliance plugs.

      Also Lucas after 1996 is an American company.


    55. eaglesoars
      55 | April 26, 2019 6:14 pm

      Well, I don’t know about you, but I certainly feel MUCH better.

      Bolsonaro Pledges to Reduce Brazil’s ‘Ridiculous’ Number of Penis Amputations

      https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/04/26/bolsonaro-pledges-to-reduce-brazils-ridiculous-number-of-penis-amputations/


    56. rain of lead
      56 | April 26, 2019 6:34 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      just watched the first vid, the overview as it were…
      DAYUM


    57. eaglesoars
      57 | April 26, 2019 6:42 pm

      I never thought I’d actually SEE this.

      Earth. Venus. Jupiter.

      Seen from Mars

      https://twitter.com/PhysicsAndAstr1/status/1119330835306512384


    58. AZfederalist
      58 | April 26, 2019 6:47 pm

      Possum wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      Lucas Electric….

      http://mez.co.uk/lucas.html

      That is cars. Fucking look up UK household wiring, 30 amp ring main, fuses in appliance plugs.

      Also Lucas after 1996 is an American company.

      Really doesn’t matter where the fuse is as long as the fuse or breaker trip when there is a short. You can just as easily get sparks and fire if the fuse is in the plug as if it were on the main.


    59. eaglesoars
      59 | April 26, 2019 6:56 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      the vids are bad enough. Worse is – how did the Air Force get there? Those pilots weren’t even out of their flight gear

      I’d like to think that maybe they’re ours. But then why would we piss away so much on stuff like F-35s that seems to have too many bells/whistles (from what I’ve read, I don’t know anything)


    60. Possum
      60 | April 26, 2019 7:04 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      And there I rest my case. Sometimes a problem is not a “short” it is an overload.

      A 15 amp breaker will not trip at a 16 amp load. Breakers are thermally activated.

      I would bet money that a 15 amp breaker would take five or more minutes to trip at 30 amps.

      Meanwhile, a lamp cord rated at 2 amps has been cooking all that time….


    61. coldwarrior
      61 | April 26, 2019 7:11 pm

      Possum wrote:

      That is cars. Fucking look up UK household wiring, 30 amp ring main, fuses in appliance plugs.

      relax.

      i was just making a joke.


    62. Possum
      62 | April 26, 2019 7:13 pm

      Oh and before this starts to get into a stupid pissing contest. A lamp with a ten foot cord that is rated at 2 amps and there is a dead short at the bulb DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A DEAD SHORT!!!!!!

      The 20 foot 2 amp cord (there and back) looks like a 1500W heater.

      That is how houses catch fire….


    63. Possum
      63 | April 26, 2019 7:14 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      I am relaxed, been out of work for two months.


    64. Possum
      64 | April 26, 2019 7:25 pm

      Sorry I over reacted. In the UK the standard voltage that comes out of the wall is 240 volts. You do not mess with it. You respect it.


    65. lobo91
      65 | April 26, 2019 7:32 pm

      Trump took a victory lap today at the NRA:


    66. coldwarrior
      66 | April 26, 2019 7:46 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:

      Jaguar?

      jag, mg, triumph, austin, land rover…

      my father and i have sacrificed many hours at the altar of LUCAS, the Prince Of Darkness to make the electrics function in a proper manner.

      dad ditched his v12 jag convertible for a BMW and i ditched my MG for a miata.

      it was kinda like leaving a cult.


    67. eaglesoars
      67 | April 26, 2019 7:46 pm

      A military plant in Krasnoyarsk Russia is burning out of control

      https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1121771160159518722

      They make ICBMs and cruise missles.

      tsk.


    68. coldwarrior
      68 | April 26, 2019 7:47 pm

      Possum wrote:

      240 volts. You do not mess with it. You respect it.

      true, that.


    69. coldwarrior
      69 | April 26, 2019 7:48 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      marvelous.


    70. coldwarrior
      70 | April 26, 2019 7:49 pm

      @ lobo91:

      i heard he threw the pen that nixed the UN treaty on guns into the crowd, effin’ rock star!


    71. lobo91
      71 | April 26, 2019 7:53 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      Go to 31 minutes or so


    72. yenta-fada
      72 | April 26, 2019 8:09 pm

      HAPPY BIRTHDAY EAGLESOARS!!

      We just got my computer to work again. Last year you discovered the Iditerod. I wonder what amazing things you will marvel at this birthday year to share with all of us. {{{eagle}}}


    73. yenta-fada
      73 | April 26, 2019 8:19 pm

      @ yenta-fada:

      Um, yesterday was apparently your birthday. Happy UNbirthday. 🙂


    74. yenta-fada
      74 | April 26, 2019 8:21 pm

      https://twitter.com/StephanieKelton/status/1121070877335068706

      Oh noes. Somebody just figured out the U.S. economy.


    75. eaglesoars
      75 | April 26, 2019 8:33 pm

      @ yenta-fada:

      thank you sweetie!


    76. eaglesoars
      76 | April 26, 2019 8:34 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      v12 jag convertible

      OMG [panting]

      what color? was it that dark green? was it? WAS IT??


    77. yenta-fada
      77 | April 26, 2019 8:49 pm

      yenta-fada wrote:

      https://twitter.com/StephanieKelton/status/1121070877335068706

      Oh noes. Somebody just figured out the U.S. economy.

      Kelton is Bernie’s Senior Economic Advisor. Everything is FREE! This policy is working remarkably well for Bernie.


    78. eaglesoars
      78 | April 26, 2019 8:55 pm

      yenta-fada wrote:

      yenta-fada wrote:

      https://twitter.com/StephanieKelton/status/1121070877335068706

      Oh noes. Somebody just figured out the U.S. economy.

      Kelton is Bernie’s Senior Economic Advisor. Everything is FREE! This policy is working remarkably well for Bernie.

      If the Fed can just print more money, why am I paying taxes?


    79. coldwarrior
      79 | April 26, 2019 8:57 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Very.


    80. eaglesoars
      80 | April 26, 2019 9:00 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      Very.

      heh.


    81. yenta-fada
      81 | April 26, 2019 9:07 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Fed greed is infinite. They even get paid interest on every dollar printed. As long as the U.S. dollar is the global reserve currency, the scam continues. Should those fancy derivatives (bets) blow up, there will be a big fat mess. There always has to be a counterparty in those “bets”. If the counterparty is openly insolvent, the last musical chair disappears.


    82. yenta-fada
      82 | April 26, 2019 9:14 pm

      The Fed is like this wealthy young heiress I read about in an interview. The reporter asked her what she would do if she was on one of her constant shopping trips and she ran out of money. She said “I’d just go home and get some more.”


    83. eaglesoars
      83 | April 26, 2019 9:18 pm

      yenta-fada wrote:

      She said “I’d just go home and get some more.”

      I can’t be out of money, I still have checks


    84. yenta-fada
      84 | April 26, 2019 9:20 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      yenta-fada wrote:

      She said “I’d just go home and get some more.”

      I can’t be out of money, I still have checks

      lol. That’s the spirit.


    85. yenta-fada
      85 | April 26, 2019 9:28 pm

      Or we could be using crypto payments for international business to business trade. Money based on math is quietly being used all the time.

      https://www.pymnts.com/news/b2b-payments/2019/pttep-ripple-scb-cross-border-transactions/

      Ripple, believe it or not is a U.S. crypto that Ben Bernanke was/is involved in. Bitcoin has not gone away even though the price has tanked. Canada is developing a national crypto. It will be hard to beat the current name “loonie” for the one dollar coin.


    86. Aussie Infidel
      86 | April 26, 2019 9:31 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      v12 jag convertible

      OMG [panting]

      what color? was it that dark green? was it? WAS IT??

      It was British Racing Green of course.

      🙂


    87. CynicalConservative
      87 | April 26, 2019 9:47 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      Had one of these back in the day; want this one but not at this price.

      https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=511182308


    88. eaglesoars
      88 | April 26, 2019 9:55 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      It was British Racing Green of course.

      ah, THAT’S it!


    89. yenta-fada
      89 | April 26, 2019 9:56 pm

      @ CynicalConservative:

      It’s a cute car. I wouldn’t drive that in our insane traffic though.
      It would be fun in a reasonable climate.


    90. eaglesoars
      90 | April 26, 2019 10:14 pm

      yenta-fada wrote:

      Money based on math is quietly being used all the time.

      Indeed

      Hamas developing Bitcoin system for secure int’l funding, report says

      https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-developing-bitcoin-system-for-secure-intl-funding-report-says/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


    91. CynicalConservative
      91 | April 26, 2019 10:15 pm

      @ yenta-fada:
      Drove it as a commuter for a while. Now in the stix… country roads…


    92. eaglesoars
      92 | April 26, 2019 10:36 pm

      bedtime, nite.


    93. AZfederalist
      93 | April 27, 2019 12:01 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      jag, mg, triumph, austin, land rover…

      Had a British Sterling. Engine & Power train by Acura, coachwork by Austin Rover, electronics by Lucas, prince of darkness.

      /never again


    94. eaglesoars
      94 | April 27, 2019 9:58 am

      WaPo just CAN’T handle it.

      U.S. economy feels like the 1990s, but with more inequality, less readiness for a downturn

      got that? There MUST be a black lining in every silver Trump cloud

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/us-economy-feels-like-the-1990s-with-more-inequality-less-readiness-for-a-downturn/2019/04/26/d47c928c-6846-11e9-8985-4cf30147bdca_story.html?utm_term=.8d711aecf2cd

      There’s one blurb in there about how the shutdown probably shaved off tenths of points but not one effing comma about how much higher it could have been if that bastard McCain had kept his promise to vote down Obamacare.


    95. RIX
      95 | April 27, 2019 12:26 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      The McCain family is supporting Biden. And literally no one cares.


    96. eaglesoars
      96 | April 27, 2019 2:26 pm

      @ RIX:

      I wonder what Cindy was doing in Ukraine a couple weeks ago. Charity work, probably.


    97. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      97 | April 27, 2019 2:58 pm

      The problem I see with cryptocurrency is that it frequently just disappears. There have been two situations recently when crypto founders have died and their blockchain key was missing. Poof, millions gone. It’s also highly vulnerable to emp, but then again all money is.


    98. eaglesoars
      98 | April 27, 2019 3:11 pm

      A political cartoon in the international print edition of the New York Times on Thursday included anti-Semitic tropes, depicting the prime minister of Israel as a guide dog with a Star of David collar leading the President of the United States, shown wearing a skullcap. The image was offensive, and it was an error of judgment of publish it. [ya think?] It was provided by The New York Times News Service and Syndicate, which has since deleted it.

      https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1122143162506596354

      I’m sure somebody has a cached copy somewhere and we’ll find out who the genius cartoonist is.


    99. eaglesoars
      99 | April 27, 2019 3:12 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      and it’s hackable. Something about a ‘fork’ in the block chain. As for people not leaving their passwords in a retrievable form – that’s on them.


    100. eaglesoars
      100 | April 27, 2019 3:17 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      I’m sure somebody has a cached copy somewhere and we’ll find out who the genius cartoonist is.

      Jerusalem Post

      NEW YORK TIMES INTERNATIONALLY PRINTS ANTISEMITIC CARTOON OF TRUMP, NETANYAHU

      https://www.jpost.com/International/New-York-Times-internationally-prints-antisemitic-cartoon-of-Trump-Netanyahu-588014


    101. RIX
      101 | April 27, 2019 3:22 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ RIX:

      I wonder what Cindy was doing in Ukraine a couple weeks ago. Charity work, probably.

      People overlook what actually started the Trump/ McCain feud. McCain disparaged people attending a Tump rally as “wackobirds”. Here’s the kicker the rally was in Arizon, they were McCsin constituents.
      Maybe Trump could have handled it better , but he was defending supporters.


    102. eaglesoars
      102 | April 27, 2019 3:37 pm

      @ RIX:

      One thing that always struck me about McCain’s umbrage about Trump’s disparagement of his war hero status – seemed like the reaction of somebody who was maybe a little insecure about it?


    103. eaglesoars
      103 | April 27, 2019 3:54 pm

      Because of an editing error, an article last Saturday referred incorrectly to Jesus’ background. While he lived in an area that later came to be known as Palestine, Jesus was a Jew born in Bethlehem.

      NYT correction. I am not making this up

      https://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1122214594292920320


    104. eaglesoars
      104 | April 27, 2019 5:10 pm

      we’ll see but…

      BREAKING: Armed civilian reportedly prevented ‘bloodbath’ at Chabad Synagogue in Poway, California. Gunman was reportedly heavily armed and was wearing tactical gear.

      https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1122240674965925888


    105. lobo91
      105 | April 27, 2019 7:29 pm

      This isn’t good:

      Insurgents Seek to Oust Wayne LaPierre in N.R.A. Power Struggle

      Turmoil racking the National Rifle Association is threatening to turn the group’s annual convention into outright civil war, as insurgents maneuver to oust Wayne LaPierre, the foremost voice of the American gun rights movement.

      The confrontation pits Mr. LaPierre, the organization’s longtime chief executive, against its recently installed president, Oliver L. North, the central figure in the Reagan-era Iran-contra affair, who remains a hero to many on the right.

      Behind it is a widening crisis involving a legal battle between the N.R.A. and its most influential contractor, Ackerman McQueen, amid renewed threats from regulators in New York, where the N.R.A. is chartered, to investigate the group’s tax-exempt status. With contributions lagging, the N.R.A. is also facing an increasingly well-financed gun control movement, motivated by a string of mass shootings.

      Mr. North asked Mr. LaPierre to resign on Wednesday, according to documents reviewed by The New York Times. He said he had also created a committee to review allegations of financial improprieties that threaten the N.R.A.’s status as a nonprofit organization.

      But Mr. LaPierre, in a stinging letter sent on Thursday night to the N.R.A.’s board, accused Mr. North of threatening to leak damaging information about him and other N.R.A. executives unless he stepped down.

      “Yesterday evening, I was forced to confront one of those defining choices — styled, in the parlance of extortionists — as an offer I couldn’t refuse,” Mr. LaPierre wrote. “I refused it.”

      North is reportedly out as president, as of today.


    106. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      106 | April 27, 2019 7:37 pm

      @ lobo91:
      I don’t know much about Col North’s stances, but hasn’t LaPierre been part of the whole movement in the NRA that has been caving to leftist demands?


    107. lobo91
      107 | April 27, 2019 7:50 pm

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      @ lobo91:
      I don’t know much about Col North’s stances, but hasn’t LaPierre been part of the whole movement in the NRA that has been caving to leftist demands?

      Wayne’s been the day-to-day head of the organization for decades. The president is primarily a figurehead.

      I’m not sure what to make of this situation. I’ll reserve judgment until more facts come out.


    108. eaglesoars
      108 | April 27, 2019 7:52 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      I’m not sure what to make of this situation. I’ll reserve judgment until more facts come out.

      I believe there are accusations in both directions of financial irresponsibility. Not theft, per se (La Pierre spent over $200k on clothes??).


    109. lobo91
      109 | April 27, 2019 7:59 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      I believe there are accusations in both directions of financial irresponsibility. Not theft, per se (La Pierre spent over $200k on clothes??).

      That’s what I was referring to. Right now, it seems to be a back-and-forth exchange of nasty letters.


    110. eaglesoars
      110 | April 27, 2019 8:02 pm

      @ lobo91:

      wait. It’s too bad. I like them both.


    111. lobo91
      111 | April 27, 2019 8:17 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ lobo91:

      wait. It’s too bad. I like them both.

      I do, too, and I’ve met both of them.

      I had high hopes for North as president. He was much more hands-on than previous ones. Of course, that might have been the source of the friction between him and Wayne, too.


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