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  • Iron Dome, Timing, and Rockets

    by coldwarrior ( 49 Comments › )
    Filed under Islamic Terrorism, Israel, Military, Muslim Brotherhood, Open thread at May 5th, 2019 - 8:04 pm

    Any other country would already be at war for these rocket attacks. This is a flat out act of war. It is time for Israel to crack some skulls.

    Muslim Brotherhood…mmmmhmmmm….Obama and Clinton’s boys…do read on:

    Why isn’t the Iron Dome stopping these deadly rocket attacks?
    Yaakov Amidror tells the ‘Post’ that if a rocket is shot at a location less than a few kilometers away, “we don’t have enough time to intercept it.”
    By Maayan Jaffe-Hoffman
    May 6, 2019 01:59

    Israel has a critical gap in its protection system, said Yaakov Amidror, a former head of Military Intelligence’s Research Department and currently a senior fellow at the Jerusalem Institute for Strategic Studies.

    He told The Jerusalem Post that if a rocket is shot at a location less than a few kilometers away, “we don’t have enough time to intercept it.”
    Amidror explained that there is nothing unique about these particular rockets – “they are within the capabilities of the Iron Dome.”

    The challenge is that sometimes, such as in the case of the rocket that hit the vehicle near Kibbutz Yad Mordechai, “from the point of view of the system, this was an open area without people. We don’t intercept such rockets.”

    Amidror said that the rockets currently being fired at Israel had either been smuggled into the Gaza Strip before the 2013 regime change in Egypt from the Muslim Brotherhood to General Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, or are being produced on the Gaza side but using a manufacturing system that was built during that same time frame.

    “Before the change of regime,” Amidror explained, “Egypt informally but practically allowed terrorist groups to bring in all the facilities needed to produce these rockets.”

    He said that the rockets are paid for by Iran.

    How can Islamic Jihad manage to launch so many rockets in one day?

    According to Amidror, “It is very easy to launch rockets when you are launching them at close range and you don’t really need to be accurate.”

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    49 Responses to “Iron Dome, Timing, and Rockets”
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    1. lobo91
      1 | May 5, 2019 8:34 pm

      Music to watch Gaza burn by. New Samantha Fish, from her upcoming album:


    2. Aussie Infidel
      2 | May 5, 2019 8:42 pm

      I can understand the technicalities of target acquisition and reaction timing to intercept but ALL systems suffer to one extent or another of MINIMUM engagement range. This is NOT a technical problem … it’s a local security and weapon siting problem.

      A bit of aggressive local security patrolling would fix this in a matter of half a day!

      Sheesh!

      Who writes this crap?


    3. Aussie Infidel
      3 | May 5, 2019 8:44 pm

      Maayan Jaffe-Hoffman is a certified moron and should be kept well away from a keyboard and certainly nowhere near a news outlet!

      As I said before.

      SHEESH!

      🙂


    4. eaglesoars
      4 | May 5, 2019 8:45 pm

      So downstairs I said I didn’t understand what dumbass Hamas was thinking. Well, SOMETHING is up w/Iran

      This came out 3 minutes ago and it’s not goo


      Subject: Statement from the National Security Advisor Ambassador John Bolton

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      The White House
      Office of the Press Secretary
      FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
      May 5, 2019

      ** Statement from the National Security Advisor Ambassador John Bolton
      ————————————————————

      In response to a number of troubling and escalatory indications and warnings, the United States is deploying the USS Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group and a bomber task force to the U.S. Central Command region to send a clear and unmistakable message to the Iranian regime that any attack on United States interests or on those of our allies will be met with unrelenting force. The United States is not seeking war with the Iranian regime, but we are fully prepared to respond to any attack, whether by proxy, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, or regular Iranian forces.

      ###

      ========

      https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-statement-from-the-national-security-advisor-a-1834539402


    5. eaglesoars
      5 | May 5, 2019 8:55 pm

      I don’t know what “U.S. Central Command region ” means. I hear CentCom and I think McDill in Florida. I don’t think that’s what’s being referred to here.
      The USS Abraham Lincoln Carrier left Norfolk on Apr 1, I don’t know where it or the strike force is now


    6. lobo91
      6 | May 5, 2019 8:58 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      The CENTCOM AOR is the Middle East, basically

      Here’s a map that shows it


    7. eaglesoars
      7 | May 5, 2019 9:05 pm

      @ lobo91:

      Either Bahrain or Qatar I would think. Or both

      thanks


    8. lobo91
      8 | May 5, 2019 9:10 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      The bombers probably went to Diego Garcia


    9. eaglesoars
      9 | May 5, 2019 9:21 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      The bombers probably went to Diego Garcia

      Can they handle B-52s there?


    10. lobo91
      10 | May 5, 2019 9:22 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      lobo91 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      The bombers probably went to Diego Garcia

      Can they handle B-52s there?

      They can handle anything there. It’s a 12,000 foot runway. They even have the special hangars to house B-2s


    11. eaglesoars
      11 | May 5, 2019 9:29 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      They can handle anything there. It’s a 12,000 foot runway. They even have the special hangars to house B-2s

      ok, I remembered correctly, then


    12. lobo91
      12 | May 5, 2019 9:30 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Diego Garcia was even one of the designated emergency landing sites for the Space Shuttle


    13. yenta-fada
      13 | May 5, 2019 9:38 pm

      https://twitter.com/timesofisrael

      updates, but eagle has more info. I thought Hezbollah was also an Iranian proxy too. The Arab League pledged to send money to the paleos. Three generations on handouts and you have a bunch of dummies who know how to hurl rocks, dig tunnels, and set things on fire.


    14. yenta-fada
      14 | May 5, 2019 10:06 pm

      04:56

      Report: Ceasefire started at 4:30 a.m.

      Monday, May 06, 2019

      Hamas’ television and other Palestinian Arab sources reported overnight Sunday that a ceasefire had been reached with Israel, and that it went into effect at 4:30 a.m..

      However, Israel has not confirmed this.

      A paleo ceasefire. Saw this before. Dayum, why didn’t anybody think of this before?/


    15. AZfederalist
      15 | May 5, 2019 10:21 pm

      yenta-fada wrote:

      Report: Ceasefire started at 4:30 a.m.

      i.e. “We ran out of rockets at 4:30 AM”

      It doesn’t work that way. The Pali’s elected to kick, now it’s Israel’s turn to return the ball.


    16. eaglesoars
      16 | May 5, 2019 10:24 pm

      yenta-fada wrote:

      but eagle has more info

      nope. I expect all updates now to be coming out of Israel, if any.


    17. eaglesoars
      17 | May 5, 2019 10:30 pm

      There might be something up with the China trade talks. It seem the Vice Premier isn’t coming but no word on the rest of the delegation.


    18. eaglesoars
      18 | May 5, 2019 10:33 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      There might be something up with the China trade talks. It seem the Vice Premier isn’t coming but no word on the rest of the delegation.

      Well, this might be a factor

      Trump Announces Tariff Increase on Chinese Goods, Citing Slow Progress in Trade Talks

      https://news.ntd.com/trump-announces-tariff-increase-on-chinese-goods-citing-slow-progress-in-trade-talks_325917.html


    19. eaglesoars
      19 | May 5, 2019 10:52 pm

      somebody posted this. neat. real time bird migration map

      http://birdcast.info/live-migration-maps/


    20. yenta-fada
      20 | May 5, 2019 11:02 pm

      Israel Defense Forces
      ✔ @IDF

      “PRECISION STRIKE: Earlier today, we targeted Hamed Ahmed Khudari in Gaza. He was responsible for transferring Iranian money to Hamas and Islamic Jihad. The funds were used to build the hundreds of rockets recently fired at Israel. Iran will need to find a new money man in Gaza.”

      How do you tell all the terror groups apart in Gaza or the West Bank for that matter. Remember when Gaza had Jews and productive greenhouses in Gaza? But, you know. Land for peace./


    21. eaglesoars
      21 | May 5, 2019 11:06 pm

      bedtime. nite.


    22. eaglesoars
      22 | May 5, 2019 11:15 pm

      yenta-fada wrote:

      Remember when Gaza had Jews and productive greenhouses in Gaza?

      no. I remember when the peace accords were signed and morons like Bloomberg sent them $14 mil to get greenhouses up and they got trashed by their own people because peace isn’t profitable. Altho Wolflhenstein will tell you the problems with the greenhouse initiative was with the Israelis and the Karni crossing being closed. We all saw the greenhouses, remember. And the Israeli gov’t forcibly removed their own settlers from Gaza. That was gut wrenching.

      No, this is on the Palis and their jihadi masters. All of it.

      I saw a pic of Khudari’s car. I don’t think it was a strike – it didn’t look like there was any nearby collateral damage – I think it was a planted device. BBQ.


    23. yenta-fada
      23 | May 5, 2019 11:17 pm

      Baby elephant throws a tantrum.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvT40aCNMKM


    24. Aussie Infidel
      24 | May 6, 2019 12:21 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      The USS Abraham Lincoln Carrier left Norfolk on Apr 1, I don’t know where it or the strike force is now

      The USS Abe Strike Force is currently in the Med. Last seen doing a ‘quick R&R in Italy’ before getting its ‘serious boots on’. Should be transmitting the Suez over the next few days. After that it’ll go ‘dark’ and it’ll be referred to as within the 5th AOR and that’s it!


    25. Aussie Infidel
      25 | May 6, 2019 12:22 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      lobo91 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      The bombers probably went to Diego Garcia

      Can they handle B-52s there?

      Yup !

      You can put money on that!

      🙂


    26. Aussie Infidel
      26 | May 6, 2019 12:27 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Trump Announces Tariff Increase on Chinese Goods, Citing Slow Progress in Trade Talks

      https://news.ntd.com/trump-announces-tariff-increase-on-chinese-goods-citing-slow-progress-in-trade-talks_325917.html

      Yup. It’ll be 25% tariffs and I’d guess it’ll coincide with the arrival of the USS Abe Strike Force somewhere in the Gulf. If you are going to push you push all over to minimise and fractionate the push back the news cycles from one’s enemies.


    27. Aussie Infidel
      27 | May 6, 2019 12:31 am

      yenta-fada wrote:

      Israel Defense Forces
      @IDF

      “PRECISION STRIKE: Earlier today, we targeted Hamed Ahmed Khudari in Gaza. He was responsible for transferring Iranian money to Hamas and Islamic Jihad. The funds were used to build the hundreds of rockets recently fired at Israel. Iran will need to find a new money man in Gaza.”

      How do you tell all the terror groups apart in Gaza or the West Bank for that matter. Remember when Gaza had Jews and productive greenhouses in Gaza? But, you know. Land for peace./

      I STILL can’t understand the Israelis.

      All they have to do is switch off the power to Gaza.

      It really is that simple.

      No lights

      No water pumps

      No sewage

      No or little food distribution

      No public communications

      In other words…..

      CLICK! Mayhem

      🙂


    28. coldwarrior
      28 | May 6, 2019 12:39 am

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      electricity is cultural appropriation. it was invented by white guys after all.


    29. Aussie Infidel
      29 | May 6, 2019 1:28 am

      Don’t tell the black guys about that mate. After all it was ‘black Egyptians’ with copper and ceramic pot batteries with lemon juice electrolytes that kicked off the whole shebang…. if you believe them!

      🙂


    30. coldwarrior
      30 | May 6, 2019 1:34 am

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      Ah yes, Pharos Westinghouse, Edison, and The High Priest Tesla.


    31. eaglesoars
      32 | May 6, 2019 6:12 am

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      If you are going to push you push all over to minimise and fractionate the push back the news cycles from one’s enemies.

      BREAKING: 2 U.S. Navy destroyers carried out ‘freedom of navigation’ operation in South China Sea on Monday – Reuters

      Posted 6 hrs ago. If I correctly understand the timing, it was 3-4 hrs after the Abraham Lincoln announcement, so basically simultaneous.


    32. eaglesoars
      33 | May 6, 2019 6:22 am

      Chinese investors and manufacturers woke up to tumbling stock markets on Monday morning as censorship by Beijing kept mainstream and social media in the dark over US President Donald Trump’s threat of renewed tariffs on Chinese goods.
      The markets opened hours after Trump tweeted that the United States would increase tariffs on US$200 billion of goods from 10 to 25 per cent this Friday. The president complained that progress on trade talks with China had been moving “too slowly”.
      Despite sharp market reactions, the three major official state media outlets – newspaper People’s Daily, broadcaster CCTV and Xinhua news agency – had by noon made no mention of the developments in Washington or market reaction to them.
      Meanwhile, Caixin and Sina news – the biggest finance news outlets in the country – said the markets were “affected by information”, but did not elaborate.

      The delegation is still on track to attend the trade talks, tho. Note there is no mention of US activity in the South China Sea either. As a matter of fact, looking at the international edition of the South China Morning Post, there isn’t one word about it

      Xi doesn’t want his people to think he’s going into the talks with a weak hand.
      https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3009018/it-fake-news-china-censors-trumps-us200-billion-tariff-tweets


    33. eaglesoars
      35 | May 6, 2019 5:17 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/05/traders-brace-for-sharp-sell-off-on-trumps-tariff-threat.html

      Which isnt what happened.

      Lighthizer said he’s filing notice in Fed Reg tomorrow, tariffs take effect Friday

      Did the Chinese think he was bluffing?


    34. yenta-fada
      36 | May 6, 2019 5:18 pm

      https://theresurgent.com/2019/05/06/huge-new-york-times-editorial-board-declares-president-trump-is-right-concedes-border-crisis/

      After the ship has long sailed, The Slimes notices a crisis. Then they can blame Trump. I don’t know how Trump can live with constant slander, but he does it beautifully. Probably holding those State rallies where people recognize what a fantastic job he’s doing give him extra energy.


    35. eaglesoars
      37 | May 6, 2019 5:24 pm

      hmmm……

      in the past week China has reneged on some of its promises, Lighthizer said.

      not very specific

      and someone else said no one has spoken to Liu in the last 24 hrs.

      I wonder if South China Sea activity has anything to do with anything


    36. eaglesoars
      38 | May 6, 2019 5:25 pm

      yenta-fada wrote:

      I don’t know how Trump can live with constant slander,

      He thrives on it. He is blessed in his enemies


    37. yenta-fada
      39 | May 6, 2019 5:55 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      yenta-fada wrote:

      I don’t know how Trump can live with constant slander,

      He thrives on it. He is blessed in his enemies

      White guilt elected obambi twice. Trump is a lion.


    38. yenta-fada
    39. Aussie Infidel
      41 | May 6, 2019 6:11 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Chinese investors and manufacturers woke up to tumbling stock markets on Monday morning as censorship by Beijing kept mainstream and social media in the dark over US President Donald Trump’s threat of renewed tariffs on Chinese goods.

      Trust me. FINANCIAL news in China has a way of travelling no matter what Xi wants. After all ‘money is money’! Hong Kong and Guangzhou have ears in the West’s financial markets and BAD news especially spreads FAST in China regardless of what the CCP wants.


    40. Aussie Infidel
      42 | May 6, 2019 6:20 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/05/traders-brace-for-sharp-sell-off-on-trumps-tariff-threat.html

      Which isnt what happened.

      Lighthizer said he’s filing notice in Fed Reg tomorrow, tariffs take effect Friday

      Did the Chinese think he was bluffing?

      Yup .

      The Chinese STILL can’t rationalise the fact that they are dealing with a breaker of the status quo.

      Regimes like that of China and most other totalitarian regimes do NOT like surprises as their regimes are built on feet of sand and they know it.

      Wishful thinking in China is the only reason why the Chinese marketplace hasn’t collapsed already. That and…. endemic stupidity and greed of corrupt the Western political classes.

      China hates CHANGE but change is coming like the 1015 Express down the tunnel and nothing is stopping it now.

      🙂

      The last thing China wants is ANYTHING that upsets the status quo, because China’s use of western greed has allowed China to be able to ride for free on the West’s fiscal coat tails.

      No More!


    41. Aussie Infidel
      43 | May 6, 2019 6:24 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      yenta-fada wrote:

      I don’t know how Trump can live with constant slander,

      He thrives on it. He is blessed in his enemies

      Hey Trump cut his teeth in the NYC property market…. corrupt city officials, mafia, unions, criminal financial scammers…. I repeats myself! 🙂

      Anyone who does that has the hide of a rhinoceros.

      🙂


    42. eaglesoars
      44 | May 6, 2019 6:27 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Yup .

      The Chinese STILL can’t rationalise the fact that they are dealing with a breaker of the status quo

      I hope they don’t make that mistake in the military realm.


    43. Aussie Infidel
      45 | May 6, 2019 7:14 pm

      There is a possibility that it may as Xi’s plans end up in the File #13 in the cornering China begins to suffer fiscal pain . My sources inside China say that the Chinese middle classes are getting VERY twitchy and worried that they will never be able to change horses with Xi and his Orwellian 1984 type civil controls in place. They worry about their financial gains going south and those who haven’t made provision to flee will be stuck with a terrible authoritarian Chinese regime that is unable to change and unable to be changed.


    44. 46 | May 6, 2019 7:38 pm

      I don’t know how it’s possible, but the left seems to be getting more and more deranged by the day.


    45. eaglesoars
      47 | May 6, 2019 7:54 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      There is a possibility that it may as Xi’s plans end up in the File #13 in the cornering China begins to suffer fiscal pain

      Oh, that’s not a possibility, that’s a guarantee. OBOR, just for starters, is going to do nothing but saddle them with a boatload of partners who can’t pay off the debt and China will end up controlling shitholes. Have fun.

      @ right_wing2:

      They’re not getting more deranged, it’s just that the crazies have the stage to themselves now. The sane people have allowed themselves to be run over and have to adopt a posture that makes them seem at least acceptable to what they think is the new reality. Their danger is if the moderate voters give up and stop showing up at the polls.


    46. eaglesoars
      48 | May 6, 2019 8:49 pm

      Good

      The White House says President Donald Trump has granted a pardon to a former first lieutenant in the U.S. Army convicted in 2009 of killing an Iraqi prisoner.

      Press Secretary Sarah Sanders says Trump granted clemency to Michael Behenna of Oklahoma.

      Behenna was convicted in 2009 of unpremeditated murder in a combat zone after killing a suspected al-Qaida terrorist in Iraq. He was paroled in 2014 and had been scheduled to remain on parole until 2024.

      https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/may/6/michael-behenna-pardoned-donald-trump/


    47. AZfederalist
      49 | May 6, 2019 9:24 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/05/traders-brace-for-sharp-sell-off-on-trumps-tariff-threat.html

      Which isnt what happened.

      My stocks took a 4.5% hit today.

      Positioning myself for some buying opportunities this week as the nervous nellies panic over actions designed to provide long-term benefits.


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