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    by coldwarrior ( 63 Comments › )
    Filed under Open thread at June 20th, 2019 - 5:37 am

    It’s 0500 and I am packing the SUV for all of us to go to a much needed break at the beach for 12 days.

    Updates to follow and enjoy this open

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    63 Responses to “Vacation Time! 2019”
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    1. rain of lead
      1 | June 20, 2019 6:41 am

      morning y’all


    2. eaglesoars
      2 | June 20, 2019 8:27 am

      Fox news is reporting that the U.S. drone shot down by Iran cost around $486 mil.

      Four Hundred Eighty Six Million.

      Have these people not heard of mass production?


    3. eaglesoars
      3 | June 20, 2019 9:50 am

      S&P hits all time high, DOW approaching 27,000 for the first time (I think that’s the Fed decision). Or maybe people are thinking about oil prices, who knows.

      Have a great vacation CW, your investments are working hard!


    4. 4 | June 20, 2019 9:52 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      That seems a bit…pricey.


    5. 5 | June 20, 2019 10:03 am

      Cousins Club meeting is in St. Augustine this year. It’s the launching point for other adventures….and golf. We have a tee time at Sawgrass. I pray it’s not the Stadium Course, CW. I’ll just put in my request to take the Mulligan on the 17th hole now.

      Last time we did this, it was Miami and everyone got mad when I appropriated the rental car and drove to Key West.


    6. eaglesoars
      6 | June 20, 2019 10:14 am

      The Barbarian wrote:

      I appropriated the rental car and drove to Key West.

      I can’t imagine why…………


    7. eaglesoars
      7 | June 20, 2019 10:16 am

      BREAKING: #SupremeCourt rules that the #PeaceCross – a cross-shaped WWI memorial in Bladensburg, #Maryland, does not violate the Constitution’s establishment clause. It can remain standing and in the care of the government

      can’t wait to see who voted how


    8. eaglesoars
      8 | June 20, 2019 10:19 am

      Looks like it was 7-2. Ginsburg and Sotomayer dissented, it appears. Figures. L


    9. eaglesoars
    10. eaglesoars
      10 | June 20, 2019 1:21 pm

      NBC isn’t working for just the Dem Party. It’s working for the enemies of western civilization. They’re going after Epoch Times. Two NBC reporters (unnamed so far) called to ask them, among other things, about the religious beliefs of their staff. Here are the questions

      – Much of the Epoch Times’ recent coverage has focused on the promotion of President Trump’s policies, interviews with surrogates, and a “deep state” conspiracy to “spy” on his campaign during the 2016 election. Do you feel like this is a fair characterization and do you consider the Epoch Times to be pro-Trump?

      – Is the Epoch Times predominantly staffed by volunteers? Do some Epoch Times interns, volunteers, or employees live in a shared home?

      It seems that all or most of the Epoch Times reporters and editors and executives are also Falun Gong practitioners. How does the practice of Falun Gong inform or influence the Epoch Times’ coverage?

      -One former Epoch Times executive and practitioner claims that Falun Gong practitioners believe that the world will soon see a “weeding out process” that will pit those who are sympathetic to Falun Dafa against those who are sympathetic to the Chinese government. Is this a fair characterization? And does the Epoch Times editorial staff believe this?

      The Epoch Times has released a statement in response

      https://www.theepochtimes.com/our-response-to-nbc-news-inappropriate-questions_2971493.html


    11. 11 | June 20, 2019 1:52 pm

      Well, it’s car shopping time. The impact wrench won’t fit in the space in front of that tensioner bolt.

      Just what we need.


    12. eaglesoars
      12 | June 20, 2019 1:59 pm

      @ right_wing2:

      yikes.


    13. 13 | June 20, 2019 2:37 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Yeah.

      I found a 2005 Subaru for $3900. Got about 165,000 miles fairly new tires and new timing belt and head gasket. We’ll see what the boss says, since she has money. Or at least more than I do.

      Crap timing.


    14. eaglesoars
      14 | June 20, 2019 3:02 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      Crap timing.

      Is there any other kind for stuff like this?

      Terrific ruling from the 9th circuit of all places. Planned Parenthood just might lose its Fed funding.

      Appeals court allows Trump abortion referral ban to take effect

      https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/449524-white-house-plan-to-ban-federally-funded-clinics-from-giving-abortion


    15. 15 | June 20, 2019 3:37 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      The left will go in to orbit.


    16. 16 | June 20, 2019 4:04 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Trump’s been loading the 9th Circuit with conservative judges – it may lose its distinction as the most overturned Circuit over time.


    17. eaglesoars
      17 | June 20, 2019 4:18 pm

      @ The Barbarian:

      six more years of this and people are going to be doing one of 2 things: walking off tall buildings; planting bombs


    18. rain of lead
      18 | June 20, 2019 6:11 pm

      @ right_wing2:

      what shape is the body of the old car, could you just rebuild the moter for a couple of grand?


    19. 19 | June 20, 2019 7:15 pm

      @ rain of lead:
      Body’s in perfect shape.


    20. lobo91
      20 | June 20, 2019 7:32 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Fox news is reporting that the U.S. drone shot down by Iran cost around $486 mil.

      Four Hundred Eighty Six Million.

      Have these people not heard of mass production?

      This is more in line with what I’ve seen elsewhere:

      US Navy drone shot down by Iranian missile cost $130M
      A U.S. spy drone Opens a New Window. shot down by an Iranian missile over the Strait of Hormuz has an estimated price tag of $130 million.

      The RQ-4 Global Hawk unmanned drone, made by Northrop Grumman Corp., is able to fly for more than 30 hours and is designed to gather near-real-time intelligence using high-resolution imagery, according to the company website.

      It has flown missions in support of military operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, North Africa and the greater Asia-Pacific region, amassing more than 250,000 flight hours.

      According to an Air Force statement, the Global Hawk is considered to be one of the U.S. military Opens a New Window. ’s most sophisticated unmanned aircraft. It has a wingspan of 130.9 feet and a length of 47.6 feet. The RQ-4 Global Hawk can fly at a maximum altitude of 65,000 feet.

      The cost of the unmanned drone doesn’t take into account research and development.


    21. eaglesoars
      21 | June 20, 2019 7:42 pm

      This is from the Bur. Econ Analysis

      The United States’ current-account deficit decreased to $130.4 billion in Q1 of 2019. https://go.usa.gov/xycfk

      https://twitter.com/BEA_News/status/1141685431962132480

      That’s 9.4%. That is YUGE


    22. eaglesoars
      22 | June 20, 2019 7:46 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      an estimated price tag of $130 million.

      oh, no worries, then!

      Later in the day, I did hear some stuff that gave me a better idea of what the drone is (was), size, etc. that is in line with what you posted. It’s not like a big bird.


    23. lobo91
      23 | June 20, 2019 7:50 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      General characteristics

      Crew: Aircraft is unmanned; 4 personnel required per ground station
      Length: 47.6 ft (14.5 m)
      Wingspan: 130.9 ft (39.9 m)
      Height: 15.4 ft (4.7 m)
      Empty weight: 14,945 lb (6,779 kg)
      Gross weight: 32,250 lb (14,628 kg)
      Powerplant: 1 × Rolls-Royce AE 3007 turbofan engine, 6,495–8,917 lbf (28.89–39.66 kN) thrust

      Performance

      Maximum speed: 357 mph (575 km/h; 310 kn)
      Range: 9,436 mi (8,200 nmi; 15,186 km)
      Endurance: 30 hours
      Service ceiling: 113,000 ft (34,000 m)


    24. lobo91
      24 | June 20, 2019 7:52 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      By way of comparison, the wingspan of a 737 is about 95 feet.

      So no, it’s not a toy airplane


    25. coldwarrior
      25 | June 20, 2019 7:55 pm

      we are firmly ensconced at the beach house. the owners had us come out a day early. they love us becasue we clean the snot out of the joint before we leave…brought tup right.

      so, we’re here for 12 days, they had us pay for 7. we’d move here if the taxes weren’t so oppressive and the gun laws unconstitutional.


    26. coldwarrior
      26 | June 20, 2019 7:56 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      The United States’ current-account deficit decreased to $130.4 billion in Q1 of 2019

      as a % of gdp is that higher or lower?


    27. lobo91
      28 | June 20, 2019 7:57 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      New Jersey?


    28. coldwarrior
      29 | June 20, 2019 7:58 pm

      the girls are bouncing off of the walls to get out on the fishing deck…the lighting is problematic….the limes are cut, the drinks are in hand!


    29. eaglesoars
      30 | June 20, 2019 8:01 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      as a % of gdp is that higher or lower?

      higher or lower than what?


    30. coldwarrior
      31 | June 20, 2019 8:01 pm

      and tide is coming in.


    31. eaglesoars
      32 | June 20, 2019 8:06 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      as a % of gdp is that higher or lower?

      higher or lower than what?

      I think this is what you want

      The deficit was 2.5 percent of current-dollar gross domestic product in the first quarter, down from 2.8 percent in the fourth quarter.


    32. AZfederalist
      33 | June 20, 2019 10:03 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Fox news is reporting that the U.S. drone shot down by Iran cost around $486 mil.

      Four Hundred Eighty Six Million.

      Have these people not heard of mass production?

      My guess is that somebody is factoring in the NRE and development costs, not the production cost. That number is absurd given that an F-35 unlit production cost is about $110M


    33. AZfederalist
      34 | June 20, 2019 10:04 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      Maybe somebody slipped a decimal place or two: $48.6M per unit sounds about right.


    34. lobo91
      35 | June 20, 2019 10:15 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      The correct figure is around $130 million, not including development costs.

      I think what jacks the price on them up so high is the sensors and such. The airframe probably isn’t all that much.


    35. eaglesoars
      36 | June 20, 2019 10:39 pm

      I have to go to bed. nite

      130 mil – I can live with it. I guess.


    36. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      37 | June 20, 2019 10:44 pm

      Well sticking out the class has helped him. He liked the section on Kant and now he just learned that liberals don’t actually want equality, they want equity.


    37. Possum
      38 | June 21, 2019 12:21 am

      June text statistics. These numbers are texts both ways.

      My best friend 83

      Someone I care about who knows my best friend 467

      LOL


    38. eaglesoars
      39 | June 21, 2019 9:11 am

      Gen. Keane said Trump called off the Iranian strike because the decision to take out the drone was made by some tactical guy and not the nat’l leadership and that the nat’l leadership was furious. That intel arrived just in time for Trump to give the stand down order

      This is in line with the theory that the strikes against the tankers was also a rogue op, as why would they hit a Japanese boat when the Japanese PM was in (t town? (that’s my editorializing, not Keane’s)

      In other news, somebody has been destroying tens of thousands of Obama admin records due to be stored in Obama’s Presidential library.

      https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/06/10/crisis_at_the_national_archives_137241.html


    39. eaglesoars
      40 | June 21, 2019 9:14 am

      Trump’s tweets explaining

      ….On Monday they shot down an unmanned drone flying in International Waters. We were cocked & loaded to retaliate last night on 3 different sights when I asked, how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General. 10 minutes before the strike I stopped it, not..

      ….proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone. I am in no hurry, our Military is rebuilt, new, and ready to go, by far the best in the world. Sanctions are biting & more added last night. Iran can NEVER have Nuclear Weapons, not against the USA, and not against the WORLD!

      https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1142055388965212161


    40. eaglesoars
      41 | June 21, 2019 9:31 am

      Gold is above $1400


    41. yenta-fada
      42 | June 21, 2019 10:53 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Gold is above $1400

      I don’t trust it. Usually it has to hit a technical resistance point 3 times before you can confirm a move. $1400 is not the resistance level though, it’s a psychological round number that gets attention. Opinions online are all over the map. Nobody really knows. The stocks related to mining are showing some action, but not jumping as much as the price. Silver is moving, but it is lagging by percentage.

      I didn’t sleep. And how is your day? 🙂


    42. yenta-fada
      43 | June 21, 2019 11:03 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      I read that Bolton was the main influence in a military response to Iran. Others pulled Trump away from it. No linky.

      Fire is engulfing a Philadelphia Oil Refinery. What a mess.


    43. eaglesoars
      44 | June 21, 2019 11:18 am

      yenta-fada wrote:

      I read that Bolton was the main influence in a military response to Iran. Others pulled Trump away from it. No linky.

      people have been gunning for Bolton since forever. Every comment on blogs I’ve read so far that points fingers at him has been a troll (and often included Pompeo).

      Read my above comments: Gen’l Keane said Trump got late intel that the drone takedown was the result of a decision made by some commander on the ground outside command channels and the nat’l leadership was furious.

      If the attacks on the tankers was also a rogue operation as some have speculated, then what’s up? And where is John Kerry?

      The old rule book is gone. Altho we still import hydrocarbons, we are a net exporter. The people who need ME oil are in Asia. Who cares? We can help Japan and S Korea, China is on its own and wouldn’t THAT be ironic? Take your One Belt, One Road and shove it.

      Currency wars coming up! If the EU decides negative interest rates are a good idea again, Trump is going to take that as a back door currency deval and he won’t be happy.


    44. eaglesoars
      45 | June 21, 2019 11:22 am

      uh oh

      Cook County judge orders appointment of Special Prosecutor in Jussie Smollett case. @cbschicago

      https://twitter.com/MeganHickeyTV/status/1142085855126777856


    45. rain of lead
      46 | June 21, 2019 8:54 pm

      like clockwork

      https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/21/trump-rape-accusation-false-e-jean-carroll/

      The White House denied the claim earlier this afternoon, but Trump released his own, more forceful, statement raising questions about Carroll’s claim.

      “Regarding the ‘story’ by E. Jean Carroll, claiming she once encountered me at Bergdorf Goodman 23 years ago. I’ve never met this person in my life. She is trying to sell a new book — that should indicate her motivation. It should be sold in the fiction section,” the president wrote.


    46. eaglesoars
      47 | June 21, 2019 9:37 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      I read it. It’s lacking in, shall we say, plausibility. She says he pulled her tights down. He rapes her and then she ‘runs out of the room’? She goes into enough detail that it’s odd she leaves one out. She never pulls those tights back up. If you’ve ever worn them, you know you’re not running anywhere unless you do. Also, she would have had to do it with one hand, as she notes she always holds on to her purse. Read the piece, if it had happened, she would have written about getting those tights back up, she writes about everything else.

      Don’t get me started on the elevator/escalator issue. And that apparently there are no other people in the store.

      They ALWAYS mess this up. They add an item for plausibility and then forget to ‘close the loop’. Blase-Ford took her purse/bag with her but ran out of the house w/o it. A girl doesn’t live w/o her purse. Either someone returned it to her, which means she knew whose house it was w/o a doubt – or it never happened.


    47. lobo91
      48 | June 21, 2019 10:28 pm

      This is pretty good. Someone put together a short documentary on Samantha Fish:


    48. 50 | June 22, 2019 2:05 am

      Saw that Jimmy Page finally settled a lawsuit that Led Zeppelin’s “Stairway To Heaven” was a ripoff of a 1967 song by Spirit, but the copyright sheet music was inaccurate and vague due to filing requirements.

      BTW, Led Zeppelin also claimed credit for this:
      https://youtu.be/swhEa8vuP6U

      Here’s another blatant ripoff, this time by The J.Geils band:
      https://youtu.be/2gdvgjLvi6c

      It was a copy of James Cotton’s “The Creeper.”
      https://youtu.be/GZXMWklGf84


    49. Aussie Infidel
      51 | June 22, 2019 6:01 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      @ eaglesoars:
      Just heard on the jungle drums form an impeccable source that the US RQ-4A Global Hawk drone, that was shot down by the Iranian RK37-BUK-M3 anti-aircraft missile, had turned off its IFF prior to the intercept.

      One would ask why as it is known that the US drone was operating in proximity of an Emirates airliner on a regular public transport Airways Route at the same time. If for no other reason this was a display of poor airmanship by the drone operator. It certainly got the attention of the BUK missile-men when the IFF display disappeared from their radar monitors.

      Whether the US wanted to ‘light up’ the Iranian anti-aircraft air defences to identify any covert radar and launch sites is quizzical, as given the electronic monitoring assets that the US has in the theatre, as well as the covert assets on the ground, surely these sites would be very well known. The shutting down of the drone’s IFF that probably sparked this attack by what the US is calling a rogue tactical level commander may or may not be true. Either way doing surprising actions when both sides are locked and loaded is not a very smart thing to do. Especially so if multiple missiles were fired and one got a lock onto a civilian airliner with 300+ passengers aboard. The face that all long haul airlines who have the option have shifted their routes both to the North and South, away from the Straits and this potential flashpoint. Both Emirates and Qatar Airways have no option but to fly on these Airways as their hubs are so close to ‘the action’. If you’re travelling East to West over the Gulf then stay away from Emiraters and Qatari Air!


    50. rain of lead
      52 | June 22, 2019 7:14 am

      morning y’all.


    51. eaglesoars
      53 | June 22, 2019 8:29 am

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      The face that all long haul airlines who have the option have shifted their routes both to the North and South, away from the Straits and this potential flashpoint.

      American carriers have been ORDERED to do so by the FAA as of yesterday.

      So maybe the IFF just broke? We don’t need another passenger liner accidentally shot down like last time, during the ‘Tanker War’

      I saved some beach reading for you from the U.S. Naval Institute/DoD.

      Everything You Need To Know About the Chinese Military If You Don’t Read Chinese

      https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2019/june/everything-you-need-know-about-chinese-military-if-you-dont-read

      3 papers, they’re long, just came out yesterday so I haven’t started yet

      And for CW:

      The “petrochemical Appalachian Renaissance.”

      Rick Perry has assigned one person to see to it. 100k jobs in 10 years, maybe?

      “Shell’s extraordinary — it’s a watershed event — but it’s one plant,” said Kenneth Humphreys, senior advisor at the U.S. Department of Energy’s Office of Fossil Energy, whose entire job is to pave the way for more such developments in Appalachia.

      “Over the coming decade, it’s very possible to realize 100,000 plus jobs,” he said.

      https://www.post-gazette.com/business/powersource/2019/06/20/petrochemical-Appalachian-Shell-cracker-promoter-Washington-jobs-DOE-Ohio/stories/201906200133


    52. eaglesoars
      54 | June 22, 2019 8:51 am

      This is about a year old. Someone should check to see if it’s working

      Denmark Begs Men to Have Sex with its Feminists

      Feminism has given women in Denmark an immunity from civility, and, license to openly hate and ridicule men. For example, it is not uncommon for girls to be sitting on a bus, in a group, and have them openly point to a man and discuss how unattractive he is. The Danish legal system is set up so that once a woman has “been impregnated” by a man, the man is completely disposable in divorce, and, the man’s role as a sperm donor is further degraded by requiring him to pay for the child for the rest of his life so that the impregnated woman may enjoy her fulfillment as a modern feminist.


    53. 55 | June 22, 2019 10:16 am

      Bunk X wrote:

      Saw that Jimmy Page finally settled a lawsuit that Led Zeppelin’s “Stairway To Heaven” was a ripoff of a 1967 song by Spirit, but the copyright sheet music was inaccurate and vague due to filing requirements.

      BTW, Led Zeppelin also claimed credit for this:
      https://youtu.be/swhEa8vuP6U

      Here’s another blatant ripoff, this time by The J.Geils band:
      https://youtu.be/2gdvgjLvi6c

      It was a copy of James Cotton’s “The Creeper.”
      https://youtu.be/GZXMWklGf84

      Lawsuits like this are creepy. I could go into painful detail as to why, but it would take days. The short versions is that there are only a handful of songs that can ever be written, and they have all already been written.

      Its a math thing. Only so many notes, so many chords and so many ways you can combine them. The number is…. 7

      Once you strip everything down to its foundation, the chords and notes become numbers. I II III IV V VI VII.

      The most commonly used chord progression on earth… I IV V. Used literally a billion times. Yes, Zep stole from Spirit, who stole from someone else, who stole from someone else… Yada yada yada all the way back to the beginning of time.

      Every chord progression and melody has been used millions of times. The real truth regarding music is, it isn’t the chord progression, melody or words. Its how the artist performs them that makes each song what it is.

      Music copyright lawsuits are never ever about the music in question, they are ALWAYS about money and ego. And who can afford the better attorney.


    54. eaglesoars
      56 | June 22, 2019 1:04 pm

      oh man. E. Jean Carroll’s story just blew up in her face. Monica Showalter shopped all the time at Bergdorf’s during that period and guess what? Lingerie dept? WHAT lingerie dept?

      https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/06/notes_from_a_1990s_bergdorf_shopaholic_the_e_jean_carroll_story_about_trump_doesnt_add_up.html

      the lingerie department barely existed at the time, it was on the 2nd floor with the men’s wear. And it was insignificant. A barely there lingerie department for shopping for lingerie? Why would Trump pick such a place to shop for lingerie when there were so many other competitors with far bigger selections, starting with Saks down the street?


    55. eaglesoars
      57 | June 22, 2019 2:58 pm

      At the request of Democrats, I have delayed the Illegal Immigration Removal Process (Deportation) for two weeks to see if the Democrats and Republicans can get together and work out a solution to the Asylum and Loophole problems at the Southern Border. If not, Deportations start!

      um, what?

      https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1142506687020130306


    56. 58 | June 22, 2019 8:02 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      um, what?

      https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1142506687020130306

      Someone in DHS leaked the details of how and when the raids would take place. Trump does not like his moves telegraphed in advance. Call this a strategic pause while he eliminates whomever did the leaking.


    57. lobo91
      59 | June 22, 2019 8:46 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      I believe it was the acting DHS secretary


    58. lobo91
      60 | June 22, 2019 8:53 pm

      This is new…a collaboration between Sheryl Crow and Joe Walsh:


    59. lobo91
      61 | June 22, 2019 9:35 pm

      At least Ally Venable got to play somewhere last weekend:


    60. lobo91
      62 | June 22, 2019 10:16 pm

      Oh, look…now they want gay reparations, too…

      Elizabeth Warren’s Refund Equality Act would give LGBTQ+ couples the tax refunds they were previously denied

      LGBTQ+ Americans have historically received unjust treatment by the United States government, but some politicians are now looking to correct past wrongs. On June 20, Massachusetts Senator and Democratic presidential hopeful Elizabeth Warren introduced the Refund Equality Act, a bill that would benefit same-sex couples formerly discriminated against through the U.S. Tax Code due to unequal marriage laws.

      If the act passes, LGBTQ+ couples married in states where their union was recognized before gay marriage was legalized nationwide in 2013 could amend their past tax returns to receive IRS refunds. According to NBC News, that’s approximately $57 million in total owed to countless couples who weren’t able to jointly file federal tax returns prior to the Supreme Court’s decision.


    61. eaglesoars
      63 | June 22, 2019 10:28 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      Someone in DHS leaked the details of how and when the raids would take place. Trump does not like his moves telegraphed in advance. Call this a strategic pause while he eliminates whomever did the leaking.

      since I posted that, I’ve read that the details of the raids were leaked, probably by McAleenan, acting DHS Sec or someone in his office. Homan basically outed him when he said he wouldn’t take the border czar job unless structural changes were made.

      The kicker: There were never going to be raids this Sunday. It was a set-up by Trump, Galactic Troll Master, to find the leaker. Apparently he did, and got the Dems to the table. That’s the consensus that seems to be forming anyway. Cool, if true.


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