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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
Welcome to the weekend. It’s almost over here already. Sunday afternoon.
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The new sea defences brushed aside the last two VERY high tides (King Tides) as well as a howling Westerly blowing onshore. A bit of sea foam but everything is rock solid here.
Down South in Fjordland that are 40 foot waves 60 MPH South Westerlies straight off the Antarctic Pole and snow down to sea level
Nice and cozy here at the beach with plenty of firewood and a roaring fire.
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https://thewildernessofmirrors.wordpress.com/2019/08/03/surprise-you-just-been-royally-fucked/
shooter’s father is some kind of therapist. Former Director of Dual Diagnosis (whatever that is) at Timberlawn, a psych hospital. Now owner/director of Infused Being Therapy and Sound Healing.
https://twitter.com/JuliansRum/status/1157815842723258373
eaglesoars wrote:
addiction recovery. nothing on FB since 2017
here’s the website
http://www.dallasaddictionrecoverytherapy.com/category/infused-being-therapy-3/
looks like nothing since 2014
eaglesoars wrote:
shut down by the gov’t last year it looks like
so I wonder if this guy was on drugs?
ok, nite
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/leftists-change-shooter-patrick-crusiuss-mylife-page-after-saturday-shooting-from-democrat-to-republican/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/el-paso-terrorist-is-a-hard-core-progressive-and-white-nationalist-wants-universal-income-and-universal-healthcare/
https://www.weaselzippers.us/428079-meanwhile-at-a-chick-fil-a-in-nashville/
damn, where did all this dust come from
Another one, Dayton Ohio, 9 dead, 26 down, shooter dead. Around 1:30 this morning.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/ohio-shooting/index.html
@ eaglesoars:
Dual diagnosis refers to someone who has both mental issues and is an addict.
https://www.weaselzippers.us/428091-hilarious-a-look-into-the-democratic-socialists-of-america-convention-in-atlanta/
Oh dear God. If they ever get in power, we are so screwed.
@ doriangrey: Agreed.
right_wing2 wrote:
All we have to do is use gender-specific language and the meltdowns will render them like bacon fat in a frying pan
https://www.weaselzippers.us/428118-dayton-shooter-identified-was-registered-democrat-his-sister-and-her-boyfriend-also-found-shot-in-car/
@ Weasel Zippers
Dayton shooter was a…wait for it… registered Democrat!
But watch, they will twist this and still blame the orange man.
The disgusting part is some of these Dems , including candidates seem ecstatic about getting new ways to smear Trump and the Republicans
finally found the damn thing. the so-called ‘manifesto’
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/el-paso-terrorist-is-a-hard-core-progressive-and-white-nationalist-wants-universal-income-and-universal-healthcare/
@ RIX:
his sister.
I can’t begin to imagine what his parents are going thru
Warning Sarcasm incoming.
https://thewildernessofmirrors.wordpress.com/2019/08/04/mexico-demands-safe-return-of-all-mexican-citizens/
@ right_wing2:
i just got home from the range and saw that.
I should have done more shooting
the girl is about out of her mind
about to head out to her first REAL rock concert
Alice Cooper and Halestorm
she’s a Halestorm fangirl
@ rain of lead:
ah, those w ere the days. give her a kiss for me. Have fun sweetie!
eaglesoars wrote:
Awful
@ eaglesoars:
A little bit on Boris’ go to man!
Brilliant and simple at the same time.
https://unherd.com/2019/08/the-10-brains-behind-dominic-cummings/?tl_inbound=1&tl_groups%5B0%5D=18743&tl_period_type=3
On the Fed’s cut …
https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/tracking-global-ripples-feds-rate-cut-trade-currency-manipulation-economic-cooling?id=87179e919a&e=aeddc34cc8&uuid=2021136b-d7a2-4bad-a7e3-300c846cb5e2&utm_source=Daily+Brief&utm_campaign=ba696f0b39-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_08_02_11_45&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_87179e919a-ba696f0b39-53618005&mc_cid=ba696f0b39&mc_eid=%5BUNIQID%5D
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/mass-shooting-in-chicago-7-shot-in-douglas-park-in-drive-by-shooting-at-120-am-ignored-by-media/
@ Aussie Infidel:
The Fedâs moves will reverberate globally, driving other central banks to match it step by step. Some of them will be forced into further easing by weak economic conditions but a currency war will not result.
central banking is war by other means
@ Aussie Infidel:
https://www.blogmocracy.com/2010/04/29/ooda-loops-its-what-was-for-breakfast/
ooda loops!!!!
@ coldwarrior:
Yup. That is exactly what popped into my mind too as I read this.
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coldwarrior wrote:
Armstrong says big problem in Europe. Deutsche Bank? Or European Central Bank? He always says that the Euro system is the most vulnerable. Because they botched in the beginning as you say.
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Posted Aug 4, 2019 by Martin Armstrong
I am overseas as a crisis is brewing which many might rename the âLehman Momentâ to something more up to date. Clearly, the stakes are far higher to the world economy than anyone may truly appreciate. We are cascading toward a perfect financial storm. However, this particular storm is exacerbated by the politics of Europe stemming from the structural design of the Euro. There is a major risk to both the European and world economy. All the Quantitative Easing by Draghi at the European Central Bank (ECB) has completely failed and in the process created a systemic risk to the entire world economy â not just the EU. This is why the Federal Reserve (Fed) has lowered interest rates when there was no true justification for the interest rate reduction domestically. The Fed has confirmed that it is indeed the central bank to the world even if it does not like that role. It can no longer place domestic policy objectives over international.”
yenta-fada wrote:
That may be a problem. The globalists are in control
@ Aussie Infidel:
thank you will read later, am busy but wanted to post this
A friend reports the renminbi is now trading in #HongKong at 7.03 to the dollar. Looks like there is a run on #China’s currency. Beijing is going to have to intervene to prevent a collapse.
FWIW, what do I know?
https://twitter.com/GordonGChang/status/1158189110835798016
https://www.ft.com/content/442d0932-b71f-11e9-8a88-aa6628ac896c
AZfederalist wrote:
THIS is not in their charter.
Cloudflare is terminating service to 8chan
https://blog.cloudflare.com/terminating-service-for-8chan/
coldwarrior wrote:
That’s a page to sign up for a subscription
@ eaglesoars:
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The renminbi has weakened beyond the Rmb7 per dollar level for the first time since the global financial crisis, breaching a widely recognised floor that Chinaâs central bank has previously defended during bouts of sharp depreciation, as prospects of a trade deal fade in the wake of Washington’s latest tariff threat.
The onshore exchange rate for the renminbi, which trades 2 per cent on either side of a daily midpoint set by the People’s Bank of China, fell past Rmb7 at the open on Monday for the first time since May 2008, weakening 1.3 per cent to Rmb7.0297 a dollar.
The latest move downward for the renminbi follows on the heels of a rough week which saw it drop 0.9 per cent against the dollar as Donald Trumpâs sudden escalation of trade tensions with China rattled global markets, triggering a sell-off in equities and a flight to government debt on Friday.
The offshore renminbi extended losses after the onshore rate began trading, with losses for the latter steepening to 1.8 per cent as it fell to Rmb7.1013.
Monday morning marked the first time the offshore rate, which is less strictly regulated than its onshore counterpart, crossed the Rmb7 threshold since it began trading in 2010.
eaglesoars wrote:
I find that a bit disturbing.
@ AZfederalist:
Particularly the bit about “how this is going to play out”. They are disturbed that other hosting services are not serving as moral gates for what is being hosted on their services.
AZfederalist wrote:
I’m not sure what I think about it.
AZfederalist wrote:
The Central Banking systems are all joined at the hip. So yes, the Globalists are in control. There has to be infighting, but it would cause panic to let the public to become too aware of any squabbles. The Bank that blinks first may be able to save itself, but they always risk a contagion. Armstrong says the biggest crisis is when people lose faith in their Government. The line between Government and
Banking is an imaginary one. People think Governments are in control of sovereign nations. It’s the Banks who have at least as much power. They are completely unelected and political in the extreme. The Treasury Dept. afaik, is the U.S. entity that prints up the actual money. Or more specifically adds numbers digitally when more funds are needed. You can’t raise the debt ceiling without printing more money out of thin air.
The money systems of the world are deliberately the opposite of transparent. They seem to be doing ‘quantitative easing’ into infinity. When the music stops the Government can do anything they want to with your money. Jim Rickards has always said the monetary metals, especially gold, are OUTSIDE the banking system. That simple fact is why everybody needs some at whatever level you can afford. Most people are debt slaves to a mortgage. Having a house and paying taxes are what keeps us enslaved. Food and shelter are necessities which is why GovBank goes after them.
coldwarrior wrote:
EXACTLY. No rule of law.
@ coldwarrior:
I seem to remember – I didn’t dig into it, it was a passing glance of a headline – that a couple months ago China warned that people shorting the currency would lose money.
I’m wonder about CALPERS. It’s headed up by a ChiCom believe it or not. I don’t know how heavily invested it is in China, but I would imagine it’s not nothing. I wonder if other funds have been investing in China and how the hell do they unwind?
AZfederalist wrote:
I don’t have enough knowledge to have an opinion. My general opinion is that almost everything is a distraction from the monster debts that are messing up the world monetary system. For starters, just look at the fact that most levels of government are BROKE. They cannot pay out pensions at such low interest rates. The insurance industry standard is afaik seven and a half percent interest rates to meet pension obligations. Europe is already struggling with negative interest rates. There is no such animal as a negative interest rate. It cannot PAY interest, ergo it makes no sense.
yenta-fada wrote:
oh, WAAYYY too late, habibi…………
eaglesoars wrote:
I know the Chinese will do almost anything to avoid a run on the banks. Remember how the Swiss Bank changed its currency peg OVERNIGHT?
That’s the conservative bastion of stability that kept its status over 2 World Wars. The Chinese are working hard to build up the credibility of their currency. They will do whatever it takes because they can.
yenta-fada wrote:
It’s not working.
@ eaglesoars:
The blog just kicked me off. I’m paranoid. Too much truthiness at once. A sign that I should stop ranting for now.
this is a response to a tweet by Gordon Change vis a vis the yuan depreciation
Hi Gordon
In our field textiles and apparel, the Chinese wholesale markets have collapsed over 10% in the last 5 days. US Consumers will pay zero pct of the tariffs, it will all come from the Chinese exporter. The domestic industry is in serious trouble operating at 50%.
https://twitter.com/globalej/status/1158112325548892160
His name is Ed Jernigan, CEO of Jernigan Global, a textile company
yenta-fada wrote:
it’s not the blog, it’s probably your commie ISP
eaglesoars wrote:
The belt and Road Initiative is massive and building foreign infrastructure as we type. I wouldn’t be too relaxed about a dictatorship that takes the long view and increasingly trades outside the dollar system. They are building in South America and Africa for example.
eaglesoars wrote:
I definitely have a commie isp.
@ eaglesoars:
wrt China, imo there are cross currents everywhere. It’s ridiculously complicated.
eaglesoars wrote:
Not sure, but I seem to remember that the Chinese bought the building that houses JP Morgan. At bargain rates. So who knows where people are defaulting on debt. I have no linky though. Just a podcast I heard. They don’t tell us much of import in the msm. This blog works harder to find out what’s going on than most newspapers. We don’t get Bloomberg TV any longer. They carry a lot of information. They leave out a lot of information. They carry disinformation most likely. How do we get unbiased financial reporting? Really, you can’t just fade Bloomberg financial news.
@ eaglesoars:
Speaking of faded. I are it. ‘nite Beagles. đ
yenta-fada wrote:
yeah, t he One Belt/One Road thing is going to choke them. They are throwing countries into debt that can’t be paid and what good does that do them. Their efforts in Africa are backfiring because everybody hates their guts and if given half a chance will slit their throats in the dead of night.
@ yenta-fada:
nite sweetie, I’m out too
eaglesoars wrote:
Because China is still a centrally planned economy for much of its production it has many levers that it can pull. The regime and the Central Bank of China are the same thing so we might be seeing not a collapse of the Chinese currency but a devaluation to help offset the US Tariffs and making Chinese exports cheaper and more competitive. How long they can keep this artificial propping up is anyone’s guess but there has to be a line in the sand moment for the Chinese regime.
https://flipboard.com/@USAToday/don-t-mock-marianne-williamson-democrats-need-her-spiritual-politics-in-dark-tr/a-w6xnySCBS-K0gEovb2Oy0A%3Aa%3A3199709-7342b49222/usatoday.com
@ USA Today
Remember when Kirsten Powers was a somewhat reasonable person?
Apparently not now.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
Yeah, I’m afraid it’s called Hong Kong.
RIX wrote:
No
So, Uncle Joe Biden is really on top of things.
Confusion: Biden offers sympathy for the âtragic events in Houston today and also in Michiganâ
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/confusion-biden-offers-sympathy-for-the-tragic-events-in-houston-today-and-also-in-michigan
@ eaglesoars:
Biden is a walking gaffe machine.
@ RIX:
no, he’s brain damaged and no one will talk about it. He’s had TWO brain aneurysms.
Rand Paul is having part of a lung removed (an injury from his assault)
Unfortunately, I will have to limit my August activities. Part of my lung damaged by the 2017 assault had to be removed by surgery this weekend. The doctors, nurses, & staff at Vanderbilt University Medical Center were great. I should be able to return to the Senate in September
https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1158346607542362112
@ eaglesoars:
and if you’re the least bit optimistic about human nature, read the comments. That should fix it
eaglesoars wrote:
More like an example of what an utter clique the power brokers are. Hillary is an obvious example as well. I didn’t know about the strokes. The PTB have a law. Never rat out their own for ANY reason. Society exists to protect and enrich them.
p.s. gold and silver are up about one and a half percent. This is one thing that bankers fear like vampires hate sunlight. Dow is down 500 points. Bankers do NOT want people to see precious metals as a safe haven. This fight will continue. Timing is not assured. Canada has not a single ounce left in reserves. Poland has been buying along with Mexico and other nations you would not expect.
eaglesoars wrote:
I didn’t know that.
yenta-fada wrote:
they’re saying it’s “trade fears” but that’s not it. Nothing’s changed. Except the yuan devaluation which should have been expected (what else could they do?) Somebody is seeing something else and I’m betting it’s Hong Kong. China has had troops on the border for weeks but I’m wondering……
RIX wrote:
What Joe Biden learned from his life-threatening brain aneurysms
https://bafound.org/news/what-joe-biden-learned-from-his-life-threatening-brain-aneurysms/
@ Aussie Infidel:
Nice work by yinz’s lads…Aussies up 1-0 in the Ashes v England by 251 runs.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/05/chinas-central-bank-denies-its-devaluing-countrys-currency-to-counter-tariffs.html
Panic…we taught them just enough about the game for them to hang themselves.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2019/8/4/20752752/7-killed-46-wounded-chicago-shootings-lawndale-douglas-park-gun-violence
Crickets
coldwarrior wrote:
watch what happens to the Dayton event. Memory hole got real deep,real fast.
and a 21st El Paso victim has died
India clamps down on public assembly in Kashmir. Internet down, lots of disruptions.
https://netblocks.org/reports/major-internet-shutdown-registered-in-kashmir-as-crisis-worsens-xyMGzbAZ
A region that Pakistan thinks they should own.
CW I have an econ question
So China devalues it’s INTERNATIONAL currency, right?
Any impact on the domestic currency? Because if they keep that up, the inflation is going to be brutal.
I’m trying to think thru how a company that trades both internationally (say, buys raw materials) and sells domestically is going to be impacted and I don’t know enough.
Hubby just told me a more fun story. A woman on Vancouver Island realized she was being stalked by a cougar. In a flash of genius, she finds “Don’t tread on me” by Metallica, on her phone and cranks it up to the max. The cougar runs away. lol. True story with confusing lesson good to know if you find yourself in similar circumstances. Caution. Not likely to work on humans or probably bears.
@ eaglesoars:
the international currency is being devalued, the internal currency will take a yuge value hit as everyone tries to get dollars.
thing about interest rates v debt servicing as well…
interest rates will have to rise to attract foreign investment, this will casue service on the debt to explode…
trump just pulled the plug on their bath tub
eaglesoars wrote:
I don’t know the answer. Having a two tiered currency is not a good thing imho. Many years ago visiting Venezuela there was an official exchange rate and a black market exchange rate. Being outsiders we always used a bank to avoid hassles with local laws. Around the corner from the bank, rates were much more favorable. A different kind of 2 tiered currency. Unstable countries use the dollar to make transactions instead of a volatile national currency.
coldwarrior wrote:
Thanks for the short form!
coldwarrior wrote:
oh ka-RAP! see, that’s why I hang out with people who are smarter than I am.
but inflation could still be a problem, yes?
eaglesoars wrote:
yes.
Modi is done screwing around
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/explained-presidents-order-scraps-its-predecessor-and-amends-article-370/article28826722.ece?homepage=true
@ coldwarrior:
does he really think the Paks are just going to suck it up?
eaglesoars wrote:
nope.
@ coldwarrior:
*sigh*
https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/hk%20map.jpg?itok=HXa4K8R2
Uprisings in Hong Kong map. Definitely a flashpoint
@ yenta-fada:
I think China won’t go in en masse. They’ll infiltrate a little at a time. Guerilla. Then smother.
https://www.apnews.com/bb56f8243df34f79898512711edbc8a0
New bullshit index..
But the real one remains positive..
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/02/perfect-storm-building-for-market-correction.html
And even with the corrections I’d still be up 40% since trump.
Go ahead, correct…I’ll buy more.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/08/05/wall-street-multinationals-react-to-u-s-china-trade-decoupling/
Required reading
@ coldwarrior:
short take: why DeutscheBank sucks and the guy at HBSC just got booted
eaglesoars wrote:
I can’t agree with you. there Eagles.
HK will just be a better organised Tienneman II I’m afraid.
The line in the sand is and has always been Taiwan I’m afraid.
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eaglesoars wrote:
Thanks to Google and the new surveillance technology that will extend down to individual village level and into every home via cell phone feeds that can be activated covertly. Any grass roots guerrilla revolution, especially initiated in the cities will collapse under the steel heel of State terror.
Thanks Google and Israel’s IAI for allowing this tech to proliferate in China. The $$$$ were good I’m sure.
coldwarrior wrote:
YUP
The Aussies have found their killer mojo again.
If you give them even the briefest sniff of a win they’ll tear your throat out!
HEH!
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I noted that one of the bad boys who was stood down for ball tampering scored a double century over the two innings!
@ Aussie Infidel:
they, and he, looked like their old selves.
@ coldwarrior:
The Baggy Green caps will eat the Black caps lunch and spit out the bones!
HEH!
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The English are just a 5 course aperitif
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@ coldwarrior:
I need breakfast before my 10 month old arrives to be babysat with his grandpa!
Magic moments to savour
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Went to the doc and had some x-rays and ultrasounds on both shoulders. I was being stupid and =used a jackhammer on my own for a day and then with #2 son’s help on day 2 destroying 70 year old reinforced concrete 1 metre thick. Silly thing to do and I should have taken the builder’s advice when he intoned “better you than me mate”. đ
Had steroids injected into my left shoulder and it’s feeling already.Still no gym on the top half for a few weeks and certainly no ultra slow heavy weights for a month.
I am really really stupid sometimes!
HEH!
https://twitter.com/YAAS_America/status/1157885849796775936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1157885849796775936&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fsamj-3930%2F2019%2F08%2F04%2Fpoint-of-personal-privilege-rofl-democratic-socialists-of-americas-conference-is-just-a-hot-mess-of-hilarious-watch%2F
Twitchy had this on the Demoratic Socilists of America Conference.
You have got to view these videos .
Aussie Infidel wrote:
and more subtle. But Hong Kong is not a city square, it’s an entire – well, provence, if you will. It’s going to cost China a lot more that TS did, but they’ll pay the butcher’s bill. Taiwan is down the road and I’m betting what happens in Hong Kong will set the table for Taiwan.
China showing its new powers facing reckless Trump. Let yuan go slightly over 7 and stopped buying US agricultural products and US and world markets tumble! China is in this for the long haul, Trump for next year elections. Who will blink first while the world burns? Buy the dip?
this gem is from Vitor Costancio, Former ECB Vice President. President of the Council of ISEG, University of Lisbon. Professor at Navarra University, Masters School, Madrid
no wonder Europe is fucked
@ Aussie Infidel:
i thought with age comes wisdom?
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@ eaglesoars:
ha.
a good number of our states have a higher gdp than his country.
shuddup, professor dumdum
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/photos-every-us-mass-shooter-in-2019-who-shot-four-or-more-people/
@ coldwarrior:
at least 20 were in Chicago. That’s over 20%
coldwarrior wrote:
I’m betting Fairfax County has a higher GDP than his country
we don’t have a drug problem, we have an IQ problem
Basketball Player Uses Girlfriend’s Urine to Fake Drug Test, Finds Out He’s Pregnant
https://pjmedia.com/trending/basketball-player-uses-girlfriends-urine-to-fake-drug-test-finds-out-hes-pregnant/
eaglesoars wrote:
and China will cut off it’s nose to spite its face with HK.
Taiwan will break China with the rest of the world and it’s no guarantee victory for china for at least a decade more of buildup. I I were Taiwan I’d get VERY public nukes, dig them into the central range and guarantee the obliteration of the Chinese East coast cities and manufacturing infrastructure as the ultimate guarantee against Chinese gunboat diplomacy.
I know that Taiwan and South Africa tested a nuke way back when so it isn’t as if the Taiwanese don’t have the technology.
coldwarrior wrote:
Au contrare .
With age comes the assumption that you can do what you used to do with no downside!
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More a lack of imagination when it comes to capability.
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Treasury just declared China a currency manipulator. I don’t know what that means in practical, real-world terms
eaglesoars wrote:
Opps.
So he screws up on two fronts at the same time
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@ Aussie Infidel:
to make this springer moment even better is if he ain’t the baby daddy
eaglesoars wrote:
China has 6000 + PLA in barracks in HK already. Their military hospital was next door to the HK Sports Club where I used to vacation. There are two divisions totalling 19,000 PLA just over the Northern border in Shenzhen city, all packed and carrying their anti-riot kit and urban warfare equipment. The bastards even have tanks!
More than enough to shut down the New Territories and Kawloon Side. HK island would fall like a ripe plumb when the water and power gets turned off.
That’s one of the reasons that the Brits folded like a cheap deck chair on HK Island during the handover. They could have stayed in HK island if they wished and China couldn’t believe their luck when the Brits gave HK island back with the rest of the mainland side of the harbour. The Brits knew that HK island couldn’t survive without Chinese water which could be switched off at a whim.
I also used to stay on HK island as a guest of the Brit Army’s Director of Intel & Security down at HMS Tamar. He was only a colonel but because of the need for him to entertain he was given a lovely garden home 130 years old in the old British barracks estate in the mountains overlooking Repulse Bay. He and his Aussie journalist wife were and remain great mates of mine and Mrs Aussie Infidel.
There is a Chinese Major General enjoying the delights of British Imperial architecture now!
SPIT
rain of lead wrote:
Now THAT would be the ultimate kicker!
HEH!
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eaglesoars wrote:
Guys like this have such a hatred for Trump and what he stands for that celebrate their own economic fate . There is just one remedy for hatred as soul destroying as this. Remove power from his hands and see the bitter little man behind the curtain pulling the levers of the great and terrible Oz.
rain of lead wrote:
damn. beat me to it.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
Yeah, but I think, now, wanting to be seen as a global leader, China might want to avoid a body count. And HK knows it, and is going to make sure that’s exactly what they get. We’ve known about troops on the border for awhile, but those optics suck for China.
eaglesoars wrote:
Purely symbolic. Everyone and I do mean everybody knew that the Chinese manipulated their currency by linking the Yuan to the Renmimbi and then screwing around with the internal Yuan value.
That was China could compete unfairly with the West. Initially when China was in the ‘textiles phase’ of its growth it didn’t really matter all that much but as it climbed the ladder of industrial sophistication it DOES matter… a LOT.
Now Chins has a middle ranking wage structure and to compete with the likes of Indonesia and Vietnam is has no options but to move its manufacture to those countries leaving the Chinese process workers unemployed.
Trump is ‘dumb’ …like a fox!
He knows where China’s vulnerabilities reside and is playing this ‘fiddle’ like a maestro.
this is just a wild-ass guess, but I’m betting there was some family dysfunction here
Dayton shooter:
The gunman, identified as 24-year-old Connor Betts, was a member of Menstrual Munchies,
The man who killed nine and injured 27 in a mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio, was the lead singer of a “pornogrind” metal band, a genre defined by its explicit subject matter and themes of gore and violence, specifically sexual violence and necrophilia, BuzzFeed News has learned.
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Pornogrind is a subgenre of a fast and extreme kind of heavy metal called grindcore, which is known for its mostly dark, satirical themes of sexual violence and gore delivered for shock value.
The band’s song titles are explicitly sexually violent, such as “Preteen Daughter Pu$$y Slaughter” and “Cunt Stuffed With Medical Waste – Sexual Abuse Of A Teenage Corpse.” The album art is equally explicit. One album cover shows a woman consuming feces, while another shows an illustration of a young woman’s headless body chained to a bed, covered in blood, as a man puts his pants back on.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/dayton-shooter-pornogrind-band
And we already know that the El Paso shooter’s daddy was a 40-yr drug addict so-called therapist
Aussie Infidel wrote:
really? no consequences? I know everybody knew they’ve been doing it, Trump campaigned on it, but there HAVE to be some consequences or Trump wouldn’t have done it
eaglesoars wrote:
Regardless of the crappy optics China has painted itself into a lose- lose corner. Either way it loses face and therefore not only prestige but because they are a State tyranny their lose whatever justification that have built up to hold power. The HK Chief Officer must be getting the feeling that she might go under a bus driven by XI, as the least of two evil outcomes.
eaglesoars wrote:
This was Trump’s response to the Chinese intransigence, in the face of Mike Pompeo’s lack of successfully moving along with the trade talks.
Everything has some value Eagles and Trump doesn’t waste a smidgen of any of it. Trump’s best kept secret is to convince the Left that he’s a moron. That ranks alongside Lucifer’s efforts to convince the folks that the devil doesn’t exist!
LOL đ
@ eaglesoars:
Doesn’t matter. Still Trump’s fault
/s
@ eaglesoars:
In both these mass murder cases the one constant is manifest evil writ large. The US and to a lesser extent evil is on the up-tick probably because evil loves an audience to its horror. Exposure with ‘Press inches’ and visual Media, incites further evil.
lobo91 wrote:
… and he laps it up like cream. The more the Left pillories him the more the folks flock to Trump’s side of the equation as the only adult in the room.
Trump WON’T WIN 2020. The Left will LOSE 2020 BIG time.
Landslide 2020.
Put money on that Eagles
Alice Cooper @the Opry part 11
somebody had a good time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BsKxvenbGc
@ lobo91:
Sorry Lobo… that should have been directed back at you
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Aussie Infidel wrote:
well, I just thought of something. That dam in Equador that China built that wasn’t worth the powder to blow it to hell – one of those One Belt One Road boondoggles – and it put Ecuador in such hock to China that they had to be bailed out by the IMF.
Reports I’ve read so far have all mentioned that now the U.S. goes to the IMF for ‘negotiations’. Or something.
What if the IMF tells countries going forward that if they find themselves in hock to China over a OBOR scams, there’s no bailout?
Now IIRC, Ecuador was SUPPOSED to pay for that dam w/oil but – um – fracking. Oops.
Reports
coldwarrior wrote:
A few minutes?
I think I get it at an intuitive level but would need a solid weekend of seminars at least to even start to get my head around it.
So there are two games in town?
Or rather, one game in town, in Main Street, the other in the commercial centres of some of the big cities of the world. One game makes a relatively few people rich, the other makes many more people a little better off, and rarely worse off.
There may be a useful parallel, again involving Trump.
I get weekly emails highlighting the latest from a journal some of you will be familiar with – Foreign Affairs.
Normally I skim it then delete. But this week I went into the university archives for its issues over the last two years and realised how important this is as a major voice for US bureaucrats, globalisation and the deep state – see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Affairs
One article, not too long, from two years ago seemed typical and is attached. It could equally be titled “Relax, the Deep State is Your Friend”.
I think the public have become a little better informed and rightly more cynical by events and disclosures in the interim period.
Again, it seems there are two games being played. One in what your link above has called Main Street, the other at an elite level in places like Foggy Bottom, Brussels, Berlin, L’Ăcole Normale SupĂ©rieure in Paris
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_normale_sup%C3%A9rieure_(Paris)
and in Zhongnanhai, the central leadership compound in the heart of Beijing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhongnanhai
There seem to be parallels in Wall Street, The City (London), Tokyo, Shanghai, Hong Kong.
A fair comparison?
eaglesoars wrote:
Yet another good reason why China doesn’t want to become the outcast of the globe. Nations might not feel like repaying debts to a temporary administration and they might just default..
AS that classic movieOne-Two-Three by Wilder says……. in a Russian- Cuban context… Cagney complains… to the Russian.. “This is a pretty crummy Cuban cigar”… The Russian replies ..” they got our pretty crummy rockets”.
If I were the Ecuadorians I’d be testing the steel the Chinese have been using in the dam.
Hell even NZ has been forced to tear our extensive infrastructure work with chinese steel. The steel tested just fine for quality standards but the steel once in place just didn’t measure up to engineering load. Some cunning Cghinese manufacturer had switched the steel shipments. Ongoing litigation ensues. Meantime we now have South Korean steel in place that actually measures up.
I’m guessing that as most One Belt One Road boondoggles are never expected to last long, and are only a mechanism to load African and South American nations with debt, there will be a LOT of structural failures on the horizon.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
I know on the Three Gorges Dam, they rushed to meet deadlines and quotas, so didn’t let the cement dry/cure properly. Now it’s structurally unsound.
coldwarrior wrote:
Why, that is impossible. Chicago has strict gun laws. The kind that the communists want for the rest of the country. No way there could be mass shootings in Chicago.
/…and don’t give me that “the guns come from outside the city that’s why control must expand”. We can’t prevent drugs and people from crossing the borders of the country, they think they’ll be able to stop guns if they are banned in the states?
@ eaglesoars:
so how many moutains of cash will it take to repair the dam before it collapses
Aussie Infidel wrote:
Yeah, that Google “Don’t be Evil” thing? I knew right then that they were headed that way.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
Stinks no longer being young and immortal, doesn’t it?
RIX wrote:
Pure comedy gold.
/Oh, these idiots were serious?
coldwarrior wrote:
With age comes … age. Sometimes wisdom if the person is discerning. This dude is not discerning, just old
coldwarrior wrote:
We really need to define what constitutes a “mass shooting”
Aussie Infidel wrote:
I’d agree with you if the fraudulent vote factor isn’t taken into account. We all know the dems cheat, and they successfully tested extreme cheating in the 2018 elections. That was just prep for 2020.
coldwarrior wrote:
Prepping the battlefield for 2020. Remember when “it’s about the economy stupid” helped contribute to the Bush I defeat? The dems had convinced people that the economy was in the tank when it wasn’t. As Rush said, the were able to fool people to the point they would say, “I’m doing OK, but I’m not sure about my neighbors”.
AZfederalist wrote:
well, my neighbors put up Bernie signs last time so they can go fuck themselves.
rain of lead wrote:
In China? I don’t know that it can be fixed. Of all the things I’m not, engineer is near the top of a long list.
@ AZfederalist:
Not just that, but if all the guns are coming from Indiana then why doesnât Indiana have the same level of gun violence that Chicago does?
right_wing2 wrote:
Sending the guns to Chicago is how they keep themselves safe.
/s
eaglesoars wrote:
Recent things I read said the shooter was also a self-avowed satanist and bernie/warren supporter.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
Just came back from my annual trip home and that is what I think. Even the union lugs I know have no love for the current crop of democrats and even say nice things about Trump. I don’t know about the rest of the country, but he has Ohio stitched up in anycase.
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
Well, there was a revolt at the NYT overnite. Their headline today started out fairly sane, “Trump calls for unity” or some such thing, but the staff revolted. It’s now “Trump on Defense in Debate over Extremism and Guns”. The front page is COVERED with ‘white nationalist/supremacist’ crap. “I Spent 25 Years Fighting Jihadis. White Supremacists Aren’t So Different” is just one.
I honestly don’t know if the drum beat is going to actually have the effect it intends just by virtue of it drowning out everything else (CNN is having a town hall on gun violence) or if the drum beat is going to piss people off to the point of a Trump landslide.
I think a lot of this is just people wanting to be part of something. I saw one typical tweet – all caps – addressed to white men – IF I SEE YOU WITH AN ASSAULT RIFLE I’M CALLING THE COPS MY CHILD AND I DESERVE TO FEEL SAFE
yeah, she’s in Canada, so………
All of this is a distraction from other more important stuff – like China, Google, voter fraud, etc. Twitter gives people a place to vent and feel like they’re making a difference because they screamed at somebody I guess.
@ eaglesoars:
This is nothing new. The left does another electronic NĂŒrnberg rally and thier cult worshippers scream their hatred at the designated Emmanuel Goldsteins. I find it boring at this point.
man,google is hiding stuff big time. Took me 15 mins to find something that should have been right up there. Had to go to bing.
The inverted yield curve is trotted out again
new thread