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  • Happy Labor Day!

    by Bunk X ( 147 Comments › )
    Filed under History at September 2nd, 2019 - 12:05 am

    I’m not an historian, but here’s the gist.


    In 1894 there was a recession in the US, and Chicago engineer, industrialist and developer George Pullman had to lay off a large chunk of his workforce (yet he kept about 2/3rds on the payroll).

    Some of those laid off were anarchists, socialists and Marxists (the Progressive Movement was on the march) and they organized a strike, not only for the layoffs, but because Pullman wouldn’t reduce the rent for the housing he built and owned. But they did more than protest. They turned to violence and arson.

    They burned the buildings and product of their employer (The Pullman Car Company) and others. The damage affected the rail commerce of 27 states, the US Postal Service, and thousands of workers and their families not directly affected by the layoffs. Dozens were killed during the riots.

    Note that the arson and violence didn’t affect Pullman nearly as much as it did to the thousands of people who benefited from Pullman’s brilliance, including engineering underground sewage systems for the city of Chicago.

    In that year, democrats controlled the House, the Senate AND the Presidency. What did President Cleveland do? He gave the “strikers” an Official Holiday. Then a few days later, he sent in the U.S. Military to kick ass on his own constituents.

    Even as Pullman Company and railroad workers were striking, Congress passed legislation in June 1894 making the first Monday in September a federal legal holiday to recognize and celebrate labor. President Grover Cleveland signed the bill into law June 28, 1894, a few days before sending federal troops to Chicago.

    “It was a way of being supportive of labor. Labor unions were a constituency of the Democrat Party at the time, and it didn’t look good for Cleveland, who was a Democrat, to be putting down this strike.”
    [Richard Schneirov, professor of history, founder of the local chapter of the SDS, 1966, Grinnel University.]

    Federal troops were recalled from Chicago on July 20, and the Pullman strike was declared over in early August. Eugene V. Debs, arrested at the height of the violence along with several other ARU leaders, was charged with violating the injunction and served six months in jail. Though the ARU disbanded, Debs would emerge as the leader of the nation’s growing socialist movement, running for president five times on the Socialist Party ticket.

    And Karl Marx smiled.

    [Sources: here, here and here.]

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    1. coldwarrior
      1 | September 2, 2019 12:31 am

      coldwarrior’s union iron rule:

      a company that has a union deserves one.

      this does not cover government unions.

      treat your people like shit, they will organize and revolt. treat them well and they will be productive.

      toyota/mercedes/nissa/subaru/etc don’t have uaw, why? they don’t treat their people like shit.

      the teamsters exist because the trucking companies were complete bastards to their drivers.

      the mines have the umw because they disregarded safety and treated their people horribly.

      the usw exists because of horrible conditions in the mills.

      its an timeless story and one that is so simple. treat you people well and you will prosper in the long run.

      i was a teamster shop steward for ups and management at fedex. i get this at a gut level. it isnt hard. once you eff it u so bad that your workers retaliate, then you are stuck with a union forever.

      what costs less in the long run? treat your people well or ill?


    2. 3 | September 2, 2019 12:52 am

      I was forced to join a union. Then I was chastised for working too hard. Then I was reprimanded for making the other workers look bad.
      That’s when I learned about socialism.


    3. 4 | September 2, 2019 12:53 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      Why should the government be in charge of how you run your own business?


    4. coldwarrior
      5 | September 2, 2019 12:56 am

      again, this does not include public sector unions

      unions/labor movements have been a net positive for America. has there been corruption and wrong turns? sure. hell, this happens to any organization…GOP before Trump…for one.

      the net positive is:

      the rise of a powerful middle class. Marx himself stated that the bourgeoisie had to be eliminated or subsumed for socialist revolution to occur.

      safe work places, union or not, period.

      quality work/properly trained workers…the trades train to a very high standard. for instance, the massive cracker plant that is being built by RDS in my couty is all union. why? RDS didn’t have to do it that way, but they wanted the job done safely, right, to code, to spec, without failures, the first time. the trade union halls had the men ready, trained, and eager to go.

      i always like to ask, back in the day…if you or your kid had to go down in a mine and work, would you rather have it a union mine or a non-union mine? if you had to work with a 30,000 pound ladle of molten steel, would you rather it be in a union mill or a non-union mill?

      the safety that we enjoy, the regulations that keep us safe at work stemmed out of the labor movement. like unions or not, all of us benefit from their efforts.


    5. coldwarrior
      6 | September 2, 2019 12:58 am

      Bunk X wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      Why should the government be in charge of how you run your own business?

      why should there be police?

      there are regulations because some ass hat who owned a business effed it up.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_Shirtwaist_Factory_fire

      i could go on and on


    6. coldwarrior
      7 | September 2, 2019 1:01 am

      Bunk X wrote:

      I was forced to join a union. Then I was chastised for working too hard. Then I was reprimanded for making the other workers look bad.
      That’s when I learned about socialism.

      and this is nt the case in the trades. the big thing in the past 20 years is multi-craft.

      you wanna work hard and make more? ok, you are a machinist, get trained up in the mechanics section. you are now, say, a first class machinist and a second class mechanic and able to go to whatever job is ready to do at your plant. and oh yeah, you get much more $$$ an hour


    7. coldwarrior
      8 | September 2, 2019 1:03 am

      lobo91 wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:

      Did you see this?

      Amazon’s Next-Day Delivery System Has Brought Chaos And Carnage To America’s Streets — But The World’s Biggest Retailer Has A System To Escape The Blame

      this DOES NOT happen at UPS


    8. 9 | September 2, 2019 1:06 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      I’m not talking about safety in the workplace. I’m talking about wages. Unions had their place at one time, but now there are laws.

      I think we should lower the age of full time employment to 15 for families with an income below the poverty level. I also think we should eliminate the minimum wage and let the market decide.

      And I’m also mouthing off for no good reason.


    9. Calo
      10 | September 2, 2019 1:07 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      Don’t axe how Bunkessa benefits from Ca Nurses Association staffing ratios.
      There was a reason why these staffing ratios weren’t just guidelines.


    10. coldwarrior
      11 | September 2, 2019 1:07 am

      Bunk X wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      Why should the government be in charge of how you run your own business?

      let me tell you a great story about my favorite fish. the cod.

      there is nothing i love more than a huge chunk of cod, deep fried, with a pint of guinness.

      15 years ago fedgov warned the north eat fishermen that they were harvesting too much and pleas cut back.

      they didn’t.

      now there are heavy regulations to get the cod back to normal levels.

      they were warned and asked nicely or there would be consequences.


    11. coldwarrior
      12 | September 2, 2019 1:08 am

      @ Bunk X:
      would you rather go into a non-union mine or a union mine?


    12. coldwarrior
      13 | September 2, 2019 1:11 am

      Calo wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      Don’t axe how Bunkessa benefits from Ca Nurses Association staffing ratios.
      There was a reason why these staffing ratios weren’t just guidelines.

      precisely.

      the yuge hospital system that i work for does not have a union. doesn’t need one because they treat their people right and have self-enforced ratios.

      the hospital system where my wife works (our competition) has a union because they were constantly over-ratio and didn’t get a pay raise for 5 years (while the ceo built hospitals in saudi arabia)

      a company has a union because they deserve it


    13. 14 | September 2, 2019 1:12 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      You’re an idealist.


    14. 15 | September 2, 2019 1:14 am

      @ Calo:
      BTW, she was in house this weekend, said she’s aiming for her NP (or maybe AP).


    15. coldwarrior
      16 | September 2, 2019 1:14 am

      Bunk X wrote:

      I think we should lower the age of full time employment to 15 for families with an income below the poverty level. I also think we should eliminate the minimum wage and let the market decide.

      and that perpetuate a permanent under class. gotta get the kids through high school first or they are totaly useless

      as for minimum wage, yes. the market could decide hat


    16. coldwarrior
      17 | September 2, 2019 1:17 am

      Bunk X wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      You’re an idealist.

      multi-craft is reality in all of the trades, it benefits the workers and the company.

      it works everywhere it’s tried.

      it has nothing to do with being an idealist or not.


    17. 18 | September 2, 2019 1:19 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      Okay, then let’s raise the age of full employment to 21 so the kids can get out of college.


    18. coldwarrior
      19 | September 2, 2019 1:19 am

      Bunk X wrote:

      @ Calo:
      BTW, she was in house this weekend, said she’s aiming for her NP (or maybe AP).

      good stuff.

      there is yuge market for NPs

      i didn’t go that route as now u have more letters after my name than my full name…and i will have that on my tombstone.

      i make the same as NPs because i am willing to travel and get jerked around by my compay. i’m at three different hospitals this week

      NP is the way to go if you are young and can pay off the debt. it made no sense to me economically tho.


    19. 20 | September 2, 2019 1:20 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      Define “multi-craft.” Not familiar with that term.


    20. coldwarrior
      21 | September 2, 2019 1:21 am

      Bunk X wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      Okay, then let’s raise the age of full employment to 21 so the kids can get out of college.

      lol

      why not raise it to 30 so everyone can go to grad school?

      but really, the minimum requirement for most gigs is HS.


    21. Calo
      22 | September 2, 2019 1:22 am

      @ Bunk X:
      It’s NP. Mine was home complaining her new stethoscope didn’t work, while she was telling me how irrelevant I am.

      “Um, tap on the bell of the stethoscope, do you hear that noise through your earpiece? Yes, I thought so.”

      Grasshopper.


    22. coldwarrior
      23 | September 2, 2019 1:23 am

      @ Calo:

      😆

      night yinz, i’m trauma team tomorrow…on a holiday.


    23. 24 | September 2, 2019 1:25 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      She’s amazed me by what she’s accomplished on her own. She’s got a low-key personality, but she’s got the fire inside.

      She’s also an accomplished rock climber, doing stuff that gives me the willies just looking at the photos.


    24. 25 | September 2, 2019 1:27 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      Glad you still recobinize snark. I was testing.


    25. 26 | September 2, 2019 1:31 am

      @ Calo:
      She was talking about Assistant Physician (AP) vs. Nurse Practitioner (NP).

      When I have a doctor appointment, I see a TBNL (Tall Blonde, Nice Legs). I don’t even mind the lectures. She wants me to quit everything I enjoy in life.


    26. Calo
      27 | September 2, 2019 1:37 am

      @ Bunk X:
      It’s PA, not AP. At least last time I looked, but I’m irrelevant now, so what do I know?

      The army nurse recruiter took the kid out to lunch last week.
      The yearly bonuses are crazy for the military, I don’t know how much for APs, but critical care nurses bonuses are 35K a year. Nurse anesthetists are 100k/yr. so I imagine NP are up there in bonus amounts too.


    27. 28 | September 2, 2019 1:42 am

      @ Bunk X:
      She asked me how many beers I drink per day, and I told her the truth.

      She said that the average person only has two drinks per day.
      I told her that the average person is lying.

      She asked me what my plan was.
      I told her that I plan to raise the average.


    28. 29 | September 2, 2019 2:02 am

      @ Calo:
      Too many medical acronyms for me, but either way she’s on a good path.

      Bunkarina is still shuttling wealthy invalids around town, but she’s looking for something better. She’s pretty sharp, has a good attitude, just trying to find her niche.

      We had a combo B-Day party on the patio yesterday, and I was picking out some non-invasive music (like Booker T. & The MGs) when Bunkarina asked, “You got any Patsy Cline?”

      So for the rest of the evening we listened to Patsy Cline, Hank Williams, The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band and k.d.lang. I loved it.


    29. rain of lead
      31 | September 2, 2019 6:33 am

      huh, who knew?

      Zello is a free communications app that entities like the Cajun Navy use to communicate during disasters.

      It’s an excellent way to stay in touch when the main communication methods collapse. It’s used on your phone like a walkie-talkie.


    30. rain of lead
      32 | September 2, 2019 7:22 am

      https://twitter.com/GBlack22wx/status/1168273327531679744

      the eye of dorian


    31. rain of lead
      33 | September 2, 2019 7:26 am

      quote of the morning

      “That’s why I don’t be coming out doing comedy all the time because y’all n***** is the worst motherfuckers I’ve ever tried to entertain in my fucking life. Goddamn sick of it. This is the worst time ever to be a celebrity. You’re going to be finished, everybody’s doomed!” Dave Chappelle


    32. coldwarrior
      34 | September 2, 2019 9:30 am

      @ rain of lead:
      Well then…


    33. RIX
      35 | September 2, 2019 10:07 am

      Happy Labor Day. Most everybody has a holiday today. Great day to throw some dead animal on the grill and bust out
      adult beverages. I will have a bourbon rock with a slash please.


    34. eaglesoars
      36 | September 2, 2019 11:11 am

      We slept in til 10 am. It was glorious.


    35. AZfederalist
      37 | September 2, 2019 12:00 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      You have that right. The companies are not blameless in this; it does appear that Pullman was actually unfairly targeted by the anarchists. However, other railroads provided retirement benefits but then found a way to fire those who were approaching retirement age. Manufacturing companies treated workers like chattel and as you pointed out, the mining companies and others treated workers as slaves with the implementation of the “company store” and endless debt for their workers keeping those workers bound to the company town.

      However, as time went on, given that the statist government showed favoritism to the unions because the unions provided campaign donations and power, the evil moved from the corporations to the unions. That seems to be the state we are in today.


    36. RIX
      38 | September 2, 2019 1:22 pm

      @ AZfederalist:
      One of the most violent labor actions took place in the 30’s at the Koehler Companies in Kholer, Wi
      They paid to bring in Geraman immigrants to work for their bathroom fixture company.
      The worker had to work off the debt and was tied to the company until then.
      They struck and hung some mgmt staff from the rafters, It was brutal and tunnels were dug , which exist to this day to provide an escape.


    37. eaglesoars
      39 | September 2, 2019 1:30 pm

      background on the Odessa shooter

      He did have a criminal history in Texas and he failed background checks for weapons

      the gun was illegal.

      https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1168554204065087489


    38. 40 | September 2, 2019 3:20 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      However, as time went on, given that the statist government showed favoritism to the unions because the unions provided campaign donations and power

      Cold and I have discussed this Ad nauseam… Please do not think cold is unaware of this or in any shape form or manner approves of it. Nor, by the way, is he a significant proponent of Unions.

      You have to read what he is saying very literally.

      If any company treats its employees in such a disrespectful manner that those employees make the decision to unionize, then that company 100 percent deserves what the consequences of that union are.

      As a Californian, raised pretty much my entire life without the oppressive boot of the Union on my neck, it took me a pretty damned long time to understand what cold was saying.

      Shortest translation I can think of is… You get what you pay for. If you treat your employees right, then you as an employer will never have the oppressive shackles of a union imposed upon you. Treat them like disposable property, and eventually you will have a union forced upon you.


    39. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      41 | September 2, 2019 3:51 pm

      I’ve had to personally help fight off the SEIU twice in my life now. Once in the company I work for and once for my now ex-wife. One time they tried to get in by threats and intimidation, the second time by bribes and honeypot tactics. That union in particular is a virus that infiltrates everywhere it can and spreads it’s poison. It serves no purpose other than to perpetuate itself and increase it’s political power. SEIU thugs should be met at the door with a pistol and asked gently to never return.

      Education unions aren’t any better, had to battle them three different times in semi-private education, lost twice, moved on to better schools.


    40. RIX
      42 | September 2, 2019 4:00 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:
      I. Personally like the unio guys, not so much the leadership.
      Buy you are right about the SEIU. I was in their NY offices, opulent is an understatement.
      We were exhibiting at a. Union conference right after Obama won his first team.
      Some woman with the SEIU came up to the exhibit.
      She happened to be blac and in the course of our conversation she came out with “We run things now.”


    41. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      43 | September 2, 2019 5:02 pm

      RIX wrote:

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:
      I. Personally like the unio guys, not so much the leadership.
      Buy you are right about the SEIU. I was in their NY offices, opulent is an understatement.
      We were exhibiting at a. Union conference right after Obama won his first team.
      Some woman with the SEIU came up to the exhibit.
      She happened to be blac and in the course of our conversation she came out with “We run things now.”

      The average union people are just people. The SEIU and education recruiters are “true believers” and come in two flavors Thugs and “honey-pots”. Carrot or stick. They are either extremely attractive very “hands on” types that want to be your “really good friend” if you sign, or big thugs that want you to know that things will go very bad if you don’t sign. The ones that came to see my wife were even packing in shoulder holsters. Want to guess what kind they were?


    42. RIX
      44 | September 2, 2019 5:53 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:
      Yup theSEIU is pretty much a criminal enterprise. The teachers unions are corrup and gouge the taxpayer.
      Tenure is a remnant from the McCarthy era to protect university professors. It was never meant for elementary and high school teachers. And university profs no longer need that protection. It’s a scam.


    43. lobo91
      45 | September 2, 2019 7:50 pm

      Joe Biden Wants To Ban “Magazines That Can Hold Multiple Bullets”

      Look, it’s Joe Biden, so we really don’t know how seriously to take anything coming out of his mouth these days, but when asked about gun control, he almost managed to outdo Marianne Williamson, who would ban the manufacture and sale of bullets so your AR-15 would have nothing to fire.

      Biden told reporters at a Labor Day picnic that the idea that we haven’t eliminated magazines that can hold multiple bullets in them “absolutely mindless.” We’ve seen gun-grabbing politicians go after magazines before, like New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s SAFE Act that would limit “high-capacity magazines” from 10 bullets to seven. But this is the first we’ve heard of a magazine that holds only one round.


    44. yenta-fada
      46 | September 2, 2019 8:26 pm

      @ Calo:

      {{Calo}} I saw you and said ‘This can’t be Thursday.’ Ahhh. It’s a holiday. Nice to have your daughter home giving you attitude. lol Must be the boot camp. I trust you are well.


    45. Aussie Infidel
      47 | September 2, 2019 8:40 pm

      Bunk X wrote:

      I was forced to join a union. Then I was chastised for working too hard. Then I was reprimanded for making the other workers look bad.
      That’s when I learned about socialism.

      An acquaintance was forced to join a trucking union when he got a job hauling fuel. Being a typical Dutchman he figured out to get his rounds done before lunchtime but instead of taking the rest of the day off he kept working. The system was totally rigged to minimise efficiency. After a month on the job he got called aside by his Socialist union secretary who warned him that he was working too hard and was showing up all of the other drivers. Apparently he tried to work to rule but got so frustrated that his work rate crept back up slowly. Next time he was verbally abused by several union bosses and he was pilloried by his fellow union members. This just got him mad.

      Being a typical Dutchman he decided to get even. He worked to rule and was a perfect ‘comrade’ even to the extent of rising in the union ranks. He was invited to join the Socialist Unity Party and eventually was sent to Patrice Lamumba University in Moscow for further ideological training. After he had wormed his way deep into the SUP he decided to do a ‘walk-in’ and volunteered to act as an agent for the NZ Security Intelligence Service where he served with distinction for ears. Alas he also had a parallel character that was deeply flawed and ended up killing himself when it came out that he was also a pedophile.

      He however was instrumental in destroying the SUP from the inside during the years he covertly worked against it.


    46. Aussie Infidel
      48 | September 2, 2019 8:53 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      I belonged to ALPA and I’m glad I did. I even spent time on a picket line at one stage. ALPA kept the commercial side of the airline ‘honest’ and mitigated the more extreme practices that are endemic within the aviation industry. One of the worst places to work in aviation is the US as a non member of IFALPA.

      Nominally pilots in the US are required to have a university degree. Why I have no idea! They then spend an additional number of years getting qualified and training as a pilot and either end up with a $250,000 debt to be qualified to be employable or work for ears in low pay jobs as a flying instructor to build hours.

      The base rate of a second officer in a level III airline or as a FO in a second tier airline is between $35-40,000 per annum.
      The guy loading bags gets more than that in many cases.

      There is a 60-70,000 shortfall in pilots globally…. go figure!

      Tier I airlines pay good money the conditions are also pretty good and the training and aircraft safety standards are extremely high. The reason is IFALPA are and simple.


    47. yenta-fada
      49 | September 2, 2019 9:03 pm

      @ Bunk X:

      Bunk! Thanks for the thread and family news. When I think Labour Day, I think about our insane taxes. Hell, we’re all working for the Government. The difference is I learned to live within my means. The Government PRINTS money and still manages to rack up disgraceful amounts of debt. Me serf. Govy king. Same as it ever was.

      Looking around the world, people are fortunate to have jobs good enough to pay the bills and save enough to retain your dignity. I watched a documentary on Chinese workers who all lost their jobs building those ‘ghost cities’. Now their economy has turned and those jobs are gone. Mainland China needs jobs or they will be busy putting down revolutions everywhere. Aside from the naked greed of the CCP, you would think they would be smart enough to keep their financial center of Hong Kong running instead of grabbing it outright.


    48. 50 | September 2, 2019 9:57 pm

      Mrs RW seems to be a bit of a fan of Andrew Yang, at least partly because of the 1000/mo government stipend or whatever he’s calling it. I’ll admit, an extra $2000 a month into our household income would make things much better. But it’s just going to come from raising taxes, and that’s the last thing this country needs.


    49. yenta-fada
      51 | September 2, 2019 10:13 pm

      @ Bunk X:

      A truck loaded with thousands of copies of Roget’s Thesaurus crashed yesterday losing its entire load.

      Witnesses were stunned, startled, aghast, taken aback, stupefied, confused, shocked, rattled, paralyses, dazed, bewildered, mixed up, surprised, awed, dumbfounded, nonplussed, flabbergasted, astounded, amazed, confounded, astonished, overwhelmed, horrified, numbed, speechless, and perplexed.


    50. eaglesoars
      52 | September 2, 2019 10:13 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      ALPA kept the commercial side of the airline ‘honest’

      Small world. That was my first job in D.C. On Massachusetts Ave, Embassy Row. We shared the building with the Democratic National Committee and in my first week they had a bomb scare requiring everybody evac the building.

      I had finally arrived in the Big City.


    51. yenta-fada
      53 | September 2, 2019 10:15 pm

      @ yenta-fada:

      That joke is dated. The truck would only have to hold one smart phone.


    52. eaglesoars
      54 | September 2, 2019 10:18 pm

      and contrary to the bullshit story in the NYT that China is holding the world together economically

      China’s private sector turns to IOU drip feed – China’s private sector turns to IOU drip feed

      https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/08/article/chinas-private-sector-turns-to-iou-drip-feed/


    53. yenta-fada
      55 | September 2, 2019 10:18 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      This month you celebrate National Talk like a pirate Day. Just sayin…


    54. yenta-fada
      56 | September 2, 2019 10:20 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      and contrary to the bullshit story in the NYT that China is holding the world together economically

      China’s private sector turns to IOU drip feed – China’s private sector turns to IOU drip feed

      https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/08/article/chinas-private-sector-turns-to-iou-drip-feed/

      See my #49.


    55. lobo91
      57 | September 2, 2019 10:21 pm

      @ right_wing2:

      I’ll admit, an extra $2000 a month into our household income would make things much better. But it’s just going to come from raising taxes, and that’s the last thing this country needs.

      You’re clearly not his target audience


    56. lobo91
      58 | September 2, 2019 10:26 pm


    57. eaglesoars
      59 | September 2, 2019 10:44 pm

      yenta-fada wrote:

      Mainland China needs jobs or they will be busy putting down revolutions everywhere.

      They need food. If people in the rural areas can’t feed themselves – and from what I can tell it may be becoming a problem – they’ll head for the cities.

      That way lay dragons.


    58. 60 | September 2, 2019 11:02 pm

      @ lobo91:
      Supposedly there would be savings through cuts in administrative costs vs current welfare programs, and people on those programs could either get their current benefits OR the 1000/person. I don’t see that getting through a Democratic legislature.


    59. 61 | September 2, 2019 11:11 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      Cod is for people who don’t like the taste of fish.


    60. 62 | September 2, 2019 11:14 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      I’m not interested in mining. Yet.


    61. 63 | September 2, 2019 11:16 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      I haven’t had a pay raise in 5 years, but I jacked my price due to inflation and nobody batted an eye.


    62. yenta-fada
      64 | September 2, 2019 11:17 pm

      @ right_wing2:

      They have already been talking about a Universal Basic Income. Just print it up and roll it how. Governments are out of control everywhere. Trump is right to keep punching at the FED. imo, Central Banks and their policies are the real destroyers of the middle class. The ‘cabal’ in league with Wall Street have eaten the lion’s share for decades. Zero interest rates and their ugly cousin, negative interest rates, have killed off natural small business practices and encouraged irresponsible consumers. The debt can’t be paid off. Stout hemp rope.


    63. 65 | September 2, 2019 11:19 pm

      @ doriangrey:
      EXACTLY.


    64. yenta-fada
      66 | September 2, 2019 11:25 pm

      @ lobo91:

      Awww. The sisters are so classy as well as talented.


    65. 67 | September 2, 2019 11:26 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      Wow. Can’t top that story unless I claim that my father was a homosexual eunuch.


    66. 68 | September 2, 2019 11:30 pm

      @ yenta-fada:
      Yenta! I’m not gone, just kinda quiet. Meatworld keeps me busy, and I’m being paid to fix stupid. There’s a lot of that to fix.


    67. 69 | September 2, 2019 11:31 pm

      @ yenta-fada:
      =D


    68. 70 | September 2, 2019 11:35 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Let’s wait five years and see how China weathers the trade war she created.


    69. eaglesoars
      71 | September 2, 2019 11:44 pm

      @ Bunk X:

      I don’t think they have 5 years. The debt is MASSIVE.

      It’s late, I’m out, nite.


    70. 72 | September 2, 2019 11:52 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Heh. It’ll be 5 years or more before it affects us. Or China blinks first.


    71. rain of lead
      73 | September 3, 2019 5:28 am

      @ yenta-fada:
      Drink
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f55CqLc6IR0


    72. rain of lead
      74 | September 3, 2019 5:31 am

      and yes, I ran out of sleep and woke up waaay too early this morning


    73. Aussie Infidel
      75 | September 3, 2019 6:42 am

      One can’t ‘ Know Your Enemy ‘ without a bit of NetMap tech!

      🙂

      https://traitorschart.com

      A who’s who in the zoo of the fascist left.


    74. lobo91
      76 | September 3, 2019 11:48 am

      MINORITY REPORT Boris Johnson’s majority is GONE as Tory MP Phillip Lee defects to Remainer Lib Dems after crunch peace talks fail

      BORIS Johnson has lost his tiny Commons majority this afternoon – just hours before a crunch vote this evening which could trigger an election.

      Tory MP Phillip Lee defected to the Liberal Democrats right in front of the PM this afternoon as he gave a speech at the despatch box – and went to sit with them in the Commons.

      As a new Liberal Democrat Jane Dodds was sworn in, Mr Lee was by her side, right under Boris’ nose.

      After 27 years as a Tory he said “the party I joined in 1992 is not the Party I am leaving today”.

      In a statement he took a blast at Boris, saying: “This Conservative Government is aggressively pursuing a damaging Brexit in unprincipled ways.

      “It is putting lives and livelihoods at risk unnecessarily and is endangering the integrity of the UK.

      “It is using political manipulation, bullying and lies.”


    75. eaglesoars
      77 | September 3, 2019 3:05 pm

      @ lobo91:

      Lee has been the Jason Amash of the party for quite a while and he’s always been a Remainer. It will be interesting to see what they promised him to pull this stunt.


    76. mawskrat
      78 | September 3, 2019 3:12 pm

      I received this today anyone remember his LGF nick.
      A old LGF’er passed away his name was Fred McCall but no one can remember his nick


    77. mawskrat
      79 | September 3, 2019 3:28 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      My Union the IUOE had public and private contracts.


    78. mawskrat
      80 | September 3, 2019 3:29 pm

      @ RIX:
      the SEIU was the joke union at the university I worked at.


    79. mawskrat
      81 | September 3, 2019 3:32 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      Best decision I ever made was going to a 4 year plumbing apprenticeship program after graduating high school.


    80. Guggi
      82 | September 3, 2019 4:35 pm

      @ lobo91:

      Walmart will stop selling some ammunition and exit the handgun market

      The world’s biggest retailer says it will no longer allow open carry in its stores in the wake of two shootings that left 24 people dead and while it has been under mounting pressure from consumers and employees to take action.

      Walmart, which sells guns in about half of its 4,750 U.S. stores, will continue selling long-barrel deer rifles and shotguns, as well as other firearms and ammunition for hunting and sports shooting.

      (WaPo)

      Hi {{eagle, yenta, calo}}


    81. lobo91
      83 | September 3, 2019 4:43 pm

      @ Guggi:

      I saw that earlier. Very few of their stores sell handguns (only a few in Alaska, so that’s barely relevant.

      But they’re going to stop selling 5.56/.223 ammo entirely, which is stupid. It’s one of the biggest-selling calibers, and not all of it’s used in AR-15s.


    82. eaglesoars
      84 | September 3, 2019 4:48 pm

      @ Guggi:

      Guggi, hello! We’ve missed you!

      The Walmart thing is going to be a boon to the small gun shops. It may be a financial decision more than a social/political one tho.

      Alright, tell us all your prognostications for your neck of the woods after Merkel’s departure. Also, is Trump as unpopular there as we’ve been led to believe or is that more MSM garbage?

      Don’t be such a stranger!


    83. Guggi
      85 | September 3, 2019 4:49 pm

      @ lobo91:

      Thanx for the info!


    84. Guggi
      86 | September 3, 2019 5:06 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Oh, please, don’t mention Merkel, I start hyperventilating
      immediately 😉

      Merkel ruined the CDU during the last years. She’s lost most of her immage as a “macher” and is only a shadow of herself. Her successor as party leader of the CDU AKK (= Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, believe me even Germans can barrely speak out her name, that’s why she is always called “AKK”) is a misappointment. I would have prefered Friedrich Merz. The CDU is going the way of the SPD, maybe not that fast but without doubt.

      Yes, Trump is that unpopular in Germany, Austria, France as you’r told by your media.

      I’ll try to be more often here but I can’t promise it.


    85. eaglesoars
      87 | September 3, 2019 5:12 pm

      Guggi wrote:

      Yes, Trump is that unpopular in Germany, Austria, France as you’r told by your media.

      good

      I’m watching the House of Commons brawl on the BBC (live) and it consists mainly of that smirking thug Bercow yelling ORDER! Boris just lost the vote to keep control of Commons.


    86. Guggi
      88 | September 3, 2019 5:45 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      To be honest: I don’t understand Boris.


    87. RIX
      89 | September 3, 2019 6:21 pm

      @ Guggi:
      Guggi, good to see you back in the neighborhood.


    88. Aussie Infidel
      90 | September 3, 2019 6:24 pm

      Guggi wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      To be honest: I don’t understand Boris.

      Boris is fighting a two front war that he has to extend out for another 7 weeks by way of procedural ploys and waging a filibustering resistance. Then he can call an election sometime in November once BREXIT is done and dusted.


    89. eaglesoars
      91 | September 3, 2019 6:55 pm

      Guggi wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      To be honest: I don’t understand Boris.

      Churchill in a clown suit


    90. rain of lead
      92 | September 3, 2019 7:23 pm

      @ Guggi:
      * Hi Guggi *


    91. rain of lead
      93 | September 3, 2019 7:25 pm

      https://babylonbee.com/news/walmart-discontinues-sale-of-auto-parts-to-prevent-car-accidents

      BENTONVILLE, AR—In a bold move intended to curb the thousands of deaths from vehicles each and every day, Walmart has decided to stop selling auto parts, sources confirmed Tuesday.


    92. 94 | September 3, 2019 9:36 pm

      @ yenta-fada:
      As for the thread, I was shooting from the hip, hoping that I got the historical history at least somewhat correct. Next morning I thought, “Damn. I hope I didn’t violate the Iron Fist Rule last night.”

      Maybe I did (a little) but I wasn’t the only one:

      https://www.dailywire.com/news/51295/hammer-labor-day-stupid-socialist-holiday-and-josh-hammer


    93. eaglesoars
      95 | September 3, 2019 10:42 pm

      Well, FWIW here’s a story on how Iran’s systems were infected w/Stuxnet. It’s obviously very simplified and the last part is lame

      Working for a front company allegedly doing contract work for Iran, the Dutch mole smuggled an infected thumb drive into the Natanz facility, popped it into a USB port. Et voila!

      no, NOT ‘Et voila!’. Now you’ve got to get that thumb drive out of the facility and out of the country. That’s the part that gets you executed by the mullahs.

      But they don’t tell that part.

      https://hotair.com/archives/latimestot/2019/09/03/stuxnet-how-it-got-into-iran-computers/


    94. AZfederalist
      96 | September 3, 2019 11:13 pm

      Guggi wrote:

      The world’s biggest retailer says it will no longer allow open carry in its stores in the wake of two shootings that left 24 people dead and while it has been under mounting pressure from consumers and employees to take action.

      Because people open carrying were the cause of the mayhem. Dumb@$$e$. People open carrying make their stores safer, not the other way around.


    95. 97 | September 3, 2019 11:31 pm

      Bull Doze Blues” Henry Thomas 1928.

      Sounds kinda familiar, ya?


    96. Aussie Infidel
      98 | September 4, 2019 1:03 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      no, NOT ‘Et voila!’. Now you’ve got to get that thumb drive out of the facility and out of the country. That’s the part that gets you executed by the mullahs.

      He simply swallowed the thumb drive!

      🙂


    97. coldwarrior
      99 | September 4, 2019 1:32 am

      mawskrat wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      Best decision I ever made was going to a 4 year plumbing apprenticeship program after graduating high school.

      There is a plumber who lives just behind #5 green at my CC. He ha a palatial joint, has 20 trucks staffed by plumbers and HVAC peeps.

      4 years apprentice and the drive to go big.


    98. coldwarrior
      100 | September 4, 2019 1:38 am

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      Or he destroyed it.


    99. coldwarrior
      101 | September 4, 2019 1:43 am

      @ Bunk X:
      Words from a boob who prolly never actually ‘worked’…he’s pissed that people with dirty hands and pick up trucks have taken over his ‘Con servative’ ™ (r) inc movement


    100. 102 | September 4, 2019 1:43 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      When I was a pizza delivery driver I was paid above the minimum wage.


    101. 103 | September 4, 2019 1:54 am

      @ lobo91:
      To say that Joe Biden is an idiot us like saying water is wet.


    102. coldwarrior
      104 | September 4, 2019 2:08 am

      Bunk X wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      Cod is for people who don’t like the taste of fish.

      lol…

      Remember, mrs coldwarrior is a Russian…

      Smoked fish is a staple here…we get this stuff from the fish monger that will curl your toes. And I smoke salmon, mackerel, baramundi,

      But some times…a pint of Huinness and cod fish and chips is yer man.


    103. coldwarrior
      105 | September 4, 2019 2:09 am

      The Other Les wrote:

      @ lobo91:
      To say that Joe Biden is an idiot us like saying water is wet.

      Hey man, some water is wetter than other water.

      😉


    104. coldwarrior
      106 | September 4, 2019 2:10 am

      I’m home for 5 days…I’ll have a new thread up in the AM.

      Must sleeeeeeeeeeep


    105. Buckeye Abroad
      107 | September 4, 2019 4:00 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      Bunk X wrote:
      @ coldwarrior:
      Cod is for people who don’t like the taste of fish.
      lol…
      Remember, mrs coldwarrior is a Russian…

      So soups, brown bread and cavier is on the table often I take it?


    106. eaglesoars
      108 | September 4, 2019 7:43 am

      BREAKING. Looks like China has caved. Reuters reporting

      Hong Kong leader formally withdraws controversial extradition bill

      http://news.trust.org/item/20190904094108-908ip


    107. eaglesoars
      109 | September 4, 2019 8:10 am

      So remember when I bet law enforcement didn’t want to release Sean Ator’s name because he was on their radar and somebody effed up?

      CBS News Correspondent Mireya Villarreal on the Odessa assailant: “He had been calling the police and the FBI *for years* leaving these incoherent messages”

      https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1168916399550607360


    108. coldwarrior
      110 | September 4, 2019 9:27 am

      Buckeye Abroad wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      Bunk X wrote:
      @ coldwarrior:
      Cod is for people who don’t like the taste of fish.
      lol…
      Remember, mrs coldwarrior is a Russian…

      So soups, brown bread and cavier is on the table often I take it?

      You’re psychic!!!!

      😆


    109. coldwarrior
      111 | September 4, 2019 9:29 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      Almost as if Big Law Enforcement wanted him to snap…


    110. eaglesoars
      112 | September 4, 2019 10:09 am

      @ coldwarrior:

      I can imagine that there is nothing in the law that allowed them to intervene. That’s one thing. But to try to cover that up was a mistake – they should have gone public with an “our hands were tied legally” story.

      Altho I’m betting if the guy was making a habit of standing on the roof of his house shooting animals with a gun that he probably wasn’t supposed to have, there was a psych move they could have made.

      Changing the subject: It looks like Trump has a ‘peace plan’ concerning refugees that won’t be released until after the 9/17 elections in Israel
      https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Trumps-Peace-Plan-will-not-be-published-before-Israels-elections-599993

      It involves resettlement of ‘Palestinians’ from Lebanon and Syria – the majority of them to CANADA?

      U.S. HAS AGREEMENT WITH CANADA TO ACCEPT 100,000 PALESTINIANS: ARAB REPORT

      https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/US-has-agreement-with-Canada-to-accept-100000-Palestinians-Arab-report-600602

      This is just….wrong


    111. eaglesoars
      113 | September 4, 2019 10:14 am

      San Francisco officials brand NRA a ‘domestic terrorist organization’

      does that mean if I set foot in San Fran I can be arrested as a member of a terrorist org?

      Nah. Sounds more like it’s about money

      The document resolves to assess the relationships that those who do business with the city have with the group and says “the City and County of San Francisco should take every reasonable step to limit those entities who do business with the City and County of San Francisco from doing business with this domestic terrorist organization.”

      https://www.foxnews.com/politics/san-francisco-board-brands-nra-a-domestic-terrorist-organization


    112. lobo91
      114 | September 4, 2019 10:14 am

      Thunderstruck – Flynn Attorney Sidney Powell Drops Atomic Sledgehammer of Truth on DC Court….

      Oh boy… how federal Judge Emmet Sullivan will handle this latest motion from Mike Flynn’s attorney Sidney Powell is an unknown; however, the content is delicious.

      In an explosive response filing today, which includes the phrase”sunlight is the best disinfectant”, attorney Sidney Powell has outlined the soup-to-nuts construct of the malicious government action taken during their targeting her client Michael Flynn.

      19 page PDF at the link


    113. eaglesoars
      115 | September 4, 2019 10:42 am

      @ lobo91:

      I read it last week – and (to me) the important part is that the gov’t is trying to get away with withholding evidence they ADMIT is exculpatory by classifying it and then denying Flynn’s defense clearance to even read it.

      Sullivan shouldn’t just throw the case out, he should throw the lawyers in jail for contempt.


    114. Buckeye Abroad
      116 | September 4, 2019 12:11 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      Buckeye Abroad wrote:
      coldwarrior wrote:
      Bunk X wrote:
      @ coldwarrior:
      Cod is for people who don’t like the taste of fish.
      lol…
      Remember, mrs coldwarrior is a Russian…
      So soups, brown bread and cavier is on the table often I take it?
      You’re psychic!!!!

      Not really. Heh. We celebrated our 10th anniversary this summer. Time sure flys.


    115. coldwarrior
      117 | September 4, 2019 3:28 pm

      @ Buckeye Abroad:
      The days drag on as the months fly by


    116. Possum
      118 | September 4, 2019 3:49 pm

      Time flys like an arrow

      Fruit flies like a banana


    117. coldwarrior
      119 | September 4, 2019 3:50 pm

      My hatch peppers went nuts over the last week….many are on the smoker now.

      Life is good


    118. coldwarrior
      120 | September 4, 2019 3:51 pm

      Possum wrote:

      Time flys like an arrow

      Fruit flies like a banana

      Ancient wisdom from the wise marsupial


    119. yenta-fada
      121 | September 4, 2019 4:24 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      We have a virulent strain of Paleos here already. WHO LET THE DOGS IN? They steal,harass Jews, aren’t educated, and sue for handouts. This is Trudeau getting more votes. Scum sucking bottom feeder in hand made suits, socks, and shoes has an election in October. The worst of the worst except for ISIS. ISIS btw is extremely active in Africa. Especially spreading out to formerly calm countries like Burkina Faso and Mali. There was no peace in the Middle East, they just re-located to softer targets. People who live in those countries are being driven from their homes. More things you will NEVER hear on the news. The Paleos have an entrenched base of operations in Canada where they breed like rabbits on the taxpayer dime. I dunno, maybe there’s a couple of good ones. They cause trouble wherever they go. I remember when they got kicked out of Kuwait.

      Open borders for muzz. I must have missed that tweet, because that’s how muzz immigration is done by the traitorous room temperature IQ PM of Canada. The Federal gov’t foists them on Ontario without providing funds for their settlement. We have something like 135 separate gangs in the country with branch operations that move around the country.

      Geez. I could have done without that post. Now I need a cookie.


    120. eaglesoars
      122 | September 4, 2019 4:45 pm

      @ yenta-fada:

      Personally, I find that report suspicious. Why Trump would agree to another 100k paleos on our border is beyond me. So I’m keeping the outrage caged until I see the actual agreement.


    121. yenta-fada
      123 | September 4, 2019 4:45 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      BREAKING. Looks like China has caved. Reuters reporting

      Hong Kong leader formally withdraws controversial extradition bill

      http://news.trust.org/item/20190904094108-908ip

      Even if some CCP members made this happen, the die is cast. Would people in Hong Kong trust China not to do this again? I wouldn’t. The Police had escalated to beating up protesters and arresting them. Apparently they used live ammo at some point. People in Hong Kong don’t have enough jobs now. The young will be out in the world looking for work. But the Paleos get a free ride…like Somalis, Syrians, Nigerians, etc.

      Still, it’s a pleasant surprise that the Chinese backed down for now, because the next step would have been the military, imo.


    122. eaglesoars
      124 | September 4, 2019 5:27 pm

      @ yenta-fada:

      I think China is trying to split the moderates from the hardcore. But they had 5 demands. One is to be allowed to vote for their reps. That was guaranteed in the treaty China signed when HK was turned over, so it’s not a new thing.


    123. yenta-fada
      125 | September 4, 2019 5:29 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ yenta-fada:

      Personally, I find that report suspicious. Why Trump would agree to another 100k paleos on our border is beyond me. So I’m keeping the outrage caged until I see the actual agreement.

      If I were muslim, I’d be blaming you for eating two cookies because of your post. *Now see what you made me do.* No civilized country needs adult babies who think that way and then double down and lie about what was said if you disagree with them.


    124. 4_Sticks
      126 | September 4, 2019 6:58 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      Wow, this is amazing ! I read your very first post and by half way through it I was thinking ‘Pretty cool, he remembered my post”.
      But then I thought ‘Wait, yes, I’ve said it aloud enough times over the years, to anyone who would listen, but have I ever posted this on-line before ?’. I really don’t know. I do know that I developed my theory on unions, same as yours, long before Gore and his ‘net came about.
      As a young man I was not only a staunch democrat, and proudly so, but also an activist union leader bent toward militancy.
      But over a period of years I wised up. I realized that I was only representing about 10% of our dues paying members, the chronically undependable fuck ups. You know, those who the hardest working had to cover for whenever these fucks ups didn’t even bother to show up for work, let alone call first so a voluntary replacement could be found.
      After a decade or so of this, I found myself between the proverbial ‘rock and a hard place’. On one hand, sure, there were good people that certain scumbag managers just had a case of the ass with over who knew what – his / her looks (yeah, ‘arbitrary and capricious’)? Some just seemed to get a mean spirited, ball busting kick out of riding the ass of a particular sad sack employee. These harassed were the people I wanted to represent the most. When you represent you can’t be wishy-washy, you have a duty to go full tilt boogie once you’ve taken on an employees grievance (you can also be sued if you don’t) so there is no room for a fickle hearted labor rep. such as I was quickly becoming. Besides the day to day stuff like training new reps., contract and non grievance hearing etc., I also did interrogations and disciplinary hearings so I often got to hear ‘the truth’ from the accused, at least the ones that, as far as I could tell, were leveling with me. Then there were (and no doubt still are) some real psychopaths out there (both labor and management).
      Heartless, inconsiderate pricks. If they wanted to party they would think nothing of sticking some single mom on a ‘double’ with only a minutes notice. Little by little my heart started to harden and I began to resent the people I had to deal with on a daily basis.
      So I finally had enough of it, besides my stomach was in knots day in, day out (and half the night), so I got the hell out.

      Jump ahead a few months and, one night over a few beers with a friend at a local watering hole, I answered a question he put to me: “So, what, now all of a sudden you just don’t believe in unions anymore – what the hell ?”.
      The answer hit me as quick as he finished his question. ‘No’, I replied, ‘I believe that any company / employer that has a union probably asked for and deserves one”.

      As far as I recollect that was back in ’91. I’ve been saying it ever since.
      I won’t compare my mind with yours Mr. coldwarrior, you clearly out distance mine (but my brain has a lot more mileage on it then yours lol) but there was a time I was pretty sharp and used to run management in circles, day in, day out !

      Whenever I hear ‘my words’ coming back to me from someone I’ve never talked to let alone met, I know I must be on the right track.

      A belated Happy Labor Day coldwarrior / everybody !

      Illegitimi non carborundum !!!!


    125. rain of lead
      127 | September 4, 2019 7:13 pm

      https://i.redd.it/vw1v24kkqlk31.jpg


    126. Aussie Infidel
      128 | September 4, 2019 7:18 pm

      I see that the Chinese have blinked and have ordered Lam to repeal the HK extrication regulations. A victory for the HK people. I am guessing that Lam will ‘retire’ to a plumb CCP job after a suitable cooling off period so that she can save face.

      Trump’s economic tariff war with China seems to be making headway.

      🙂

      “you’ll get sick of winning, there will be so much winning”

      Trump 2020


    127. Aussie Infidel
      129 | September 4, 2019 7:20 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ yenta-fada:

      I think China is trying to split the moderates from the hardcore. But they had 5 demands. One is to be allowed to vote for their reps. That was guaranteed in the treaty China signed when HK was turned over, so it’s not a new thing.

      One down and four to go!

      🙂


    128. Aussie Infidel
      130 | September 4, 2019 7:25 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      HK extrication regulations

      Grrr

      extradition regulations

      🙂


    129. lobo91
      131 | September 4, 2019 8:04 pm

      Howdy from Vegas! It’s been about 10 years since I was last here, so about 90% of it’s been torn down and rebuilt since then 🙂

      I’m staying at the Stratosphere. Not bad for about $75 a night, including the ridiculous “resort fees” that are pretty much equal to the room rate.

      Now I just need to find something to do until the festival starts tomorrow. Preferably something that doesn’t involve going outside, where it’s currently 108.


    130. eaglesoars
      132 | September 4, 2019 8:22 pm

      CNN is having its marathon town hall. Andrew Yang is suggesting something similar to gun buybacks for gasoline cars – forcing us all to drive electric

      https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1169379250182348800


    131. lobo91
      133 | September 4, 2019 8:24 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      CNN is having its marathon town hall. Andrew Yang is suggesting something similar to gun buybacks for gasoline cars – forcing us all to drive electric

      https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1169379250182348800

      Which will be powered how?


    132. eaglesoars
      134 | September 4, 2019 8:31 pm

      ok, the reporting that Carrie Lam had withdrawn the extradition bill in Hong Kong is incorrect. She is PROPOSING that the bill be withdrawn at the next legislative session which is in a month.

      https://twitter.com/BaldingsWorld/status/1169268571194544133


    133. eaglesoars
      135 | September 4, 2019 8:32 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      Which will be powered how?

      unicorn farts


    134. eaglesoars
      136 | September 4, 2019 8:33 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      Now I just need to find something to do until the festival starts tomorrow. Preferably something that doesn’t involve going outside, where it’s currently 108.

      I understand the food is great and reasonably priced (because they nail you at the tables). Dig in!


    135. lobo91
      137 | September 4, 2019 8:33 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      lobo91 wrote:

      Which will be powered how?

      unicorn farts

      I’m pretty sure Obama took the unicorn fart generator with him when he left office.


    136. eaglesoars
      138 | September 4, 2019 8:53 pm

      AHAHAHAHAHA!

      Trump rolls back regulations on energy-saving lightbulbs

      It’s CNBC so they’re bitching about how climate change or something

      https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/04/trump-rolls-back-requirements-on-energy-saving-light-bulbs.html


    137. yenta-fada
      139 | September 4, 2019 9:39 pm

      AOC tweets from the Bahamas that hurricanes hit ‘vulnerable communities’ first. Make it stop./

      https://canadafreepress.com/article/alexandria-occasional-cortex-hurricanes-hit-vulnerable-communities-first


    138. AZfederalist
      140 | September 4, 2019 9:46 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      It’s CNBC so they’re bitching about how climate change or something

      Yeah, this was totally objective:

      The standards applied to about half of the roughly 6 billion lightbulbs used in the U.S, and would have prevented millions of tons of carbon dioxide emissions from entering the atmosphere.


    139. eaglesoars
      141 | September 4, 2019 10:02 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      I love it when they’re unhappy.


    140. yenta-fada
      142 | September 4, 2019 10:04 pm

      @ 4_Sticks:

      Very interesting story of your big shift in perception. Your experiences are likely pretty rare. Most people don’t make that big a change from wherever they started.

      If I waited until I was as smart as cold warrior, I would never have started.

      I have some very different views on the Economy, but I hesitate to post them because Cold and Iggles would force me to back every word.
      But that’s their job.


    141. eaglesoars
      143 | September 4, 2019 10:06 pm

      It looks like people are leaving Sweden

      I can no longer live under this immense mental stress, insecurity, murder, shooting, executions, explosions, rapes and gang rapes, robberies, home burglaries, beatings, car fires, school fires, serious criminals who, after a relatively short prison stay, may again be released to move freely among us, an increasingly dismantled welfare system, lack of health care staff, teachers, elderly housing, lack of elderly care, an increasing number of poor pensioners, municipalities in principle bankrupt or in bankruptcy, all these no-go zones called something else, lack of police resources where it may take 1.5-2 hours for them to arrive at the scene of ongoing crimes if they arrive at all, the lying politicians regardless of political color and the accomplished so-called PC media, the demonization of people who think differently, the shrinking freedom of expression, the increasingly diminishing democracy, and last, but not least, the ongoing and widespread Islamization of the country. If I had wanted to live in this kind of country I would have had 53 other different countries to choose from!

      I can no longer bear to hear or read daily that this is the new Sweden, and that I must learn to accept the situation. I can no longer bear to hear the police giving advice with a gradually growing list of new recommendations: lock the car doors while driving, do not go out alone in the evenings and nights, do not jog alone in the woods, do not stay in dark alleys or streets, do not wear expensive watches or gold jewellery, do not wear specific types of clothing, do not ride certain taxis or public transport alone in the evening or at nighttime, do not respond to advances, and do not look certain men in the eye so that they do not interpret it as an invitation, etc. In other words, stay within the four walls of your home! I feel like I live in a prison, that I can’t breathe freely, that I have to constantly think about and be observant of my surroundings and look over my shoulder.

      Headed for Budapest. According to the article, there are others leaving, some for Marbella, etc.

      https://www.amren.com/news/2019/09/the-consequences-of-cultural-enrichment-in-sweden/


    142. eaglesoars
      144 | September 4, 2019 10:38 pm

      more horror from CNN’s town hall, featuring Bernie this time around

      ———-

      Democrat Voter: There are too many humans on earth.

      Bernie: I agree. We need to fund abortions to poor, third world countries.
      ——–

      yep, video of the exchange at the link, that’s what he says. Use U.S. taxpayer money to fund population control in 3rd world countries


    143. Canoe Convoy
      145 | September 4, 2019 10:39 pm

      😀 LOL @ rain of lead:


    144. eaglesoars
    145. 4_Sticks
      147 | September 4, 2019 11:25 pm

      @ yenta-fada:

      A transitional period in my life, namely: Married with children. It helped
      Why it didn’t do same for my lib friends I don’t know.


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