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NCAA Football Week 3 2019, OPEN THREAD

by coldwarrior ( 108 Comments › )
Filed under College Football, Open thread at September 14th, 2019 - 12:49 am

O P E N T H R E A D

Last week we were 2/7, for a total of 4/10. $800/$1000, Vinnie decided to go easy on me and just broke one of my kneecaps…he’s a good Pisan. Oddly, It’s much harder to find Vinnie when I’m winning…

Let’s take a look at what’s on offer today, but first a definition so that peeps can follow this nonsense:

It’s like Wall Street without the suits…well, without the non-pin-striped suits. Here is a definition: Point Spread: Also known as the line or spread, it is a number chosen by Las Vegas and overseas oddsmakers that will encourage an equal number of people to wager on the underdog as on the favorite. If fans believe that Team A is two touchdowns better than Team B, they may bet them as 14-point favorites. In a point spread, the negative value (-14) indicates the favorite and the positive value (+14) indicates the underdog. Betting a -14 favorite means the team must win by at least 15 points to cover the point spread. The +14 underdog team can lose by 13 points and still cover the spread.

Wall Street is legalized, encouraged, and institutional gambling. Betting on college ball is legal, but you are betting on 20 year old kids, hence the reason I don’t use real money! All bets are $100 unless otherwise noted.

Pittsburgh at #13 Penn State – Sat, Sep 14, 12:00 PM ET…my Beloved Panthers are 17 Point dogs at Ceasar’s. This used to be a YUGE rivalry until the Bastard Joe Paterno killed it, and the dream of a WVU-PITT-PSU led division with his bare hands. I was at PITT when it happened and heard it straight from my friend, Chancellor Emeritus, Wesley Posvar. I get a tear in my eye every time I see his picture. The day he died is the day my PhD died…I was working on Islamic funding of terror. Everything dried up after is death as he, and a professor from Israel who will remain nameless were my only champions. I would go to his house once a week to work on data and get advice. His wife was gracious and a lovely person too. A glass of wine was always ready. They liked me for some reason. Anyway, before I bore yinz to tears, PSU beats the spread.

#21 Maryland at Temple – Sat, Sep 14, 12:00 PM ET…Maryland looks like they are for real…Caesar’s has them as 6 point favorites and they beat the spread in Philly.

Stanford at #17 UCF – Sat, Sep 14, 3:30 PM ET…The betting houses are pretty much settled on The Cardinal as a 9 point dog, UCF beats this spread.

#24 USC at BYU – Sat, Sep 14, 3:30 PM ET…USC beat the dog snot out of the formerly ranked Cardinal last week. They beat the spread again of 4.

#19 Iowa at Iowa State – Sat, Sep 14, 4:00 PM ET…This is smash-mouth, corn-grown, rivalry football in the mid-west right here. I will watch this game in it’s entirety. The Hawkeyes are giving 1…1 point. They cover.

Kent State at #8 Auburn – Sat, Sep 14, 7:00 PM ET…WHY? Really, why?

Incarnate Word has a bye this week…even GOD needs to rest.

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108 Responses to “NCAA Football Week 3 2019, OPEN THREAD”
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  1. rain of lead
    1 | September 14, 2019 8:15 am

    yeah, don’t blame ya
    I don’t want to talk about the vols either


  2. rain of lead
    2 | September 14, 2019 8:25 am

    I think my pirate looks a bit happier now,
    starting a new position at work that I think is going to be much less stressful
    it was a bit of a pay cut but ot is a thing


  3. coldwarrior
    3 | September 14, 2019 8:52 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    yeah, don’t blame ya
    I don’t want to talk about the vols either

    lol

    you picked up on that…


  4. rain of lead
    4 | September 14, 2019 9:14 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    I have been a vol fan for 40 years but if they lose this one, I swear I’ll pull every bit of orange off my truck


  5. RIX
    5 | September 14, 2019 9:42 am

    As you were troops.
    Notre Dame plays New Mexico today at South Bend. should be a lay down right?
    Not after last week. Louisville gave them all they wanted last week. The Irish woke up in the2nd half.
    They have to get better before Georgia next week.
    Shake down the thunder!


  6. eaglesoars
    6 | September 14, 2019 10:50 am

    apologies for the non-sports related post but – Iran has attacked Saudi Arabia

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7463189/Drone-attacks-spark-huge-fires-two-Saudi-oil-refineries.html


  7. 7 | September 14, 2019 11:03 am

    It doesn’t what a Democrat says during a debate, I will never vote for one when alive. I can vote for one when dead, the Democrats been known to cheat that way.


  8. rain of lead
    8 | September 14, 2019 11:19 am

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/drone-strikes-spark-fires-at-saudi-oil-facilities-11568443375

    gas prices to skyrocket in 3…2…


  9. eaglesoars
    9 | September 14, 2019 11:59 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/drone-strikes-spark-fires-at-saudi-oil-facilities-11568443375

    gas prices to skyrocket in 3…2…

    They’re taking about half their production off-line – 5% of global supplies


  10. coldwarrior
    10 | September 14, 2019 12:52 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    apologies for the non-sports related post but – Iran has attacked Saudi Arabia

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7463189/Drone-attacks-spark-huge-fires-two-Saudi-oil-refineries.html

    its an open thread


  11. coldwarrior
    11 | September 14, 2019 12:52 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    the oil tics will take their sweet time getting back on line


  12. eaglesoars
    12 | September 14, 2019 2:24 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:

    the oil tics will take their sweet time getting back on line

    Well, I don’t think it makes much sense to bring everything back w/o some sort of defense system in place. The attack was done with drones and apparently launched from Iraq. That would be easy to do over and over again, so I doubt the Saudis want to spend a lot of effort just to provide easy targets


  13. rain of lead
    13 | September 14, 2019 2:44 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    some of those explosions were HUGE, how big were those drones


  14. eaglesoars
    14 | September 14, 2019 2:54 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    dunno. They’re calling them ‘suicide’ drones tho………………


  15. eaglesoars
    15 | September 14, 2019 3:01 pm

    Here’s a bit more info. It looks like the Saudis took some production offline as a precaution and will have it back in 2 days

    They are counting 10 drones

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-14/saudi-aramco-contain-fires-at-facilities-attacked-by-drones?srnd=premium


  16. eaglesoars
    16 | September 14, 2019 3:32 pm

    I just read a horrifying stat. China has culled 60% of its pigs, 25% of the global total.

    And the flu has migrated into Russia and parts of eastern Europe


  17. coldwarrior
    17 | September 14, 2019 4:02 pm

    My beloved Panthers damn near beat psu @ happy valley…

    Psu didn’t cover.


  18. coldwarrior
    18 | September 14, 2019 4:12 pm

    Maryland isnt for real…they lost. I’m 0/2 to start.


  19. coldwarrior
    19 | September 14, 2019 4:20 pm

    UCF is hooking me up tho


  20. coldwarrior
    20 | September 14, 2019 4:31 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Here we go….

    Let’s see how good the CDC and USDA are.


  21. coldwarrior
    21 | September 14, 2019 4:32 pm

    That swine flu in china couldn’t have happened at a worse time for them…

    Jusssayin


  22. Possum
    22 | September 14, 2019 4:34 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    I just read a horrifying stat. China has culled 60% of its pigs, 25% of the global total.

    And the flu has migrated into Russia and parts of eastern Europe

    A disease in pigs or poultry would not spread like that or need such drastic measures in The United States.

    Trust me, I was a professional.

    (worked in the agricultural industry for a few years 2011 to 2014 )


  23. coldwarrior
    23 | September 14, 2019 4:45 pm

    @ Possum:
    Can yinz explain why. I know the answer as my parents live in farm country.

    It would be good info for everyone


  24. 24 | September 14, 2019 4:54 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    That swine flu in china couldn’t have happened at a worse time for them…

    Jusssayin

    Mumbles something about… We taught them just enough to hang themselves…


  25. coldwarrior
    25 | September 14, 2019 5:02 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Heh.


  26. eaglesoars
    26 | September 14, 2019 5:10 pm

    @ Possum:

    This is strictly anecdotal, so FWIW – I’ve been told that at least part of the problem is improper disposal of the carcasses. Farmers don’t want to be quarantined so they just dump the bodies, sometimes in rivers, etc., where they can’t be traced back.

    Here in the west, I’ve seen heartbreaking stories of farmers losing cows to TB – they just shoot them IMMEDIATELY with the disposal team on-site. It’s ghastly, but it has to be done.


  27. coldwarrior
    27 | September 14, 2019 5:18 pm

    Muh ribs n pulled pork is gonna get pricey.

    Good thing I just laid in 30 lbs of bacon from the smokehouse.

    Should be good till spring


  28. eaglesoars
    28 | September 14, 2019 5:23 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Should be good till spring

    vacuum seal it, should be good for years


  29. Possum
    29 | September 14, 2019 5:24 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Possum:
    Can yinz explain why. I know the answer as my parents live in farm country.

    It would be good info for everyone

    I once was going to send you or Bunk an open thread on animal welfare and bio-security in the USA.

    The only aspect I do not like is the production of baby pigs. Sows are kept confined in a small crate their entire life. European way is better.

    Pigs, they are born and nursed by mommy pig until about 2-3 weeks old then weaned and moved to a nursery.

    They stay in the nursery for about six weeks and then are taken to a finishing location where they stay for about six months, grow to about 300 pounds and then….

    Why take baby pigs to a nursery and when they get bigger then take them to another place?

    Basically size of feet and shit. A hog barn is suspended over a big hole in the ground that collects shit. Big pigs need big gaps in the floor to shit through. Little pigs would get their legs trapped.

    However, latest development is wean to finish facilities. Flooring is not concrete slabs but plastic.

    Little pigs feet do not fall down holes. 300 pound pigs shit disappears….

    However I have gone rambling on yet again. The original point.

    To enter a hog facility with young, vulnerable to disease pigs you have to strip naked, go through a shower and then wear a paper suit.

    Coming back out you have to take of your paper suit and shower.

    Shower in, shower out.

    It is even worse with chickens and turkeys. You cannot visit a chicken or turkey facility within 72 hours of visiting another facility. No matter how many showers you take.

    So my working week was Monday do chicken place or turkeys. Rest of week was pigs as they only had a 24 hour restriction on prior contact with animals.

    AND there is more!

    On some facilities you not only had to shower in and out you had to do it for every building on that site.

    It works, in about 2014 a pig raising place I had to go to ( I did climate controls ) had the swine flu in one building. There were two buildings about 100ft apart.

    They contained it to just one.


  30. coldwarrior
    30 | September 14, 2019 5:27 pm

    @ Possum:
    Thank you.


  31. coldwarrior
    31 | September 14, 2019 5:34 pm

    @ Possum:
    We know some chicken and some pig folks. They take this VERY SERIOUSLY


  32. Possum
    32 | September 14, 2019 5:40 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Possum:
    We know some chicken and some pig folks. They take this VERY SERIOUSLY

    The Amish and Mennonites do too. I worked with them.

    A vevtor for chicken disease spread you would never have imagined.

    Sunday church.

    In Iowa it was known cas stations and convenience stores were a transmission path.

    Feet. Shit on boots was a transmission vector.


  33. eaglesoars
    33 | September 14, 2019 5:46 pm

    Possum wrote:

    Feet. Shit on boots was a transmission vector.

    Absolutely. I remember some years ago in the UK an outbreak of foot & mouth. You had to put on rubber boots and walk thru a disinfectant pool coming and going off the property. Night skies were lit up for months by burning carcasses. I cannot imagine the smell.


  34. coldwarrior
    34 | September 14, 2019 5:51 pm

    @ Possum:
    Yep. The Amish are serious too. We know a ton of em.

    Best baked goods evah!


  35. coldwarrior
    35 | September 14, 2019 5:58 pm

    @ Possum:
    I think that a post on food security would be a fine idea.

    If u would.


  36. coldwarrior
    36 | September 14, 2019 6:01 pm

    The team formerly known as the Vols not only won, but…they beat the spread


  37. rain of lead
    37 | September 14, 2019 6:05 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    lazy fuckers should have been playing like this for the first two games as well


  38. coldwarrior
    38 | September 14, 2019 6:52 pm

    @ rain of lead:
    the natives are restless…


  39. eaglesoars
    39 | September 14, 2019 6:59 pm

    I’m not sure WHAT is going on here, but it’s weird.

    The Chinese Society was removed from the International Society of Medical Information for Mysterious Man Incident

    This is a WHO org of some sort I think. Apparently, some guy who said his name is Mike, speaking for the Chinese Society,

    Mike contacted many IMIA member societies in the name of CMIA and Congress organization during the preparatory period of 2017 to request invitations (known as the United States, Canada, Brazil, etc.) and made many delegations and visits, and also made a number of commitments to foreign institutions. These visitors do not know where they are going after less than 30 minutes of contact with foreign academies, let alone what activities they have.

    Because of Mikes behavior, the IMIA and the relevant national associations believe that the Chinese Association hides the truth from international organizations and fails to fulfill its commitments, and ask the Chinese Association to explain the schedule and activities of Xiamen Mike and its group of visiting countries by the end of July 2019.

    But China is pulling a “Mike who? We don’t know any ‘Mike’ ”

    So the IMIA tossed their asses

    https://www.jqknews.com/news/269389-The_Chinese_Society_was_removed_from_the_International_Society_of_Medical_Information_for_Mysterious_Man_Incident.html


  40. coldwarrior
    40 | September 14, 2019 7:06 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Stealing info and secrets


  41. eaglesoars
    41 | September 14, 2019 7:07 pm

    Oh ffs

    New NYT report uncovers a *third* incident involving Brett Kavanaugh while he was at Yale

    no word on what the first 2 were

    https://twitter.com/brianefallon/status/1173000430009409536


  42. rain of lead
    42 | September 14, 2019 7:18 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    these people are worse than kudzu


  43. eaglesoars
    43 | September 14, 2019 7:22 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Stealing info and secrets

    It’s an information-sharing org. What’s to steal? Very strange.


  44. rain of lead
    44 | September 14, 2019 7:23 pm

    New Bill Would Require Gun Owners to get 5 year Federal License
    https://www.guns.com/news/2019/09/11/new-bill-would-require-gun-owners-to-get-5-year-federal-licence

    how about requiring a license to vote, hmmmm


  45. coldwarrior
    45 | September 14, 2019 7:23 pm

    Dammit…I might….

    Well, I have to bet on Clemson to beat the 27 pt spread at Syracuse.

    I’m getting stomped, again.


  46. eaglesoars
    46 | September 14, 2019 7:27 pm

    We need to kick California out of the Union. yesterday

    California Passes Bill To Ban Private Prisons – Including ICE Detention Centers

    https://www.weaselzippers.us/432475-california-passes-bill-to-ban-private-prisons-including-ice-detention-centers/


  47. eaglesoars
    47 | September 14, 2019 7:28 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    gawd, he’s trying to chase Beto??


  48. rain of lead
    48 | September 14, 2019 7:28 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I’m glad the tuneup games are done with, the next few weeks should have some good matchups

    not counting ut vs fl
    dat gonna be fugly


  49. coldwarrior
    49 | September 14, 2019 7:31 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:

    I’m glad the tuneup games are done with, the next few weeks should have some good matchups

    not counting ut vs fl
    dat gonna be fugly

    i feel for yinz, i do.


  50. rain of lead
    50 | September 14, 2019 7:50 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    still more fun to watch than any of that garbage the nfl puts out


  51. yenta-fada
    51 | September 14, 2019 7:56 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    I think my pirate looks a bit happier now,
    starting a new position at work that I think is going to be much less stressful
    it was a bit of a pay cut but ot is a thing

    I’m truly pumped to hear that. It’s an awful thing to dread going to a job. I’m sure most of us have been there at some point in our working lives. Sounds like fewer annoying people to deal with.


  52. eaglesoars
    52 | September 14, 2019 8:21 pm

    WHAT??!!

    1) Cameron Ortis, the Canadian Law Enforcement official arrested in Ottawa for alleged espionage, was heading up the money laundering investigation connected to the Magnitsky murder.

    https://twitter.com/TrueQanuck11/status/1172994232308641793


  53. lobo91
    53 | September 14, 2019 8:28 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    “When California’s prison system capacity was at 200% and conditions were so challenging as to be deemed unconstitutional, companies like ours were one of the solutions the state turned to,” said Brandon Bissel, a CoreCivic spokesperson.

    Which is precisely why the private corrections industry exists in the first place. They always seem to forget that part. Nobody went out and built a bunch of prisons and then begged states to put their inmates in them. They exist because the states needed extra capacity and it was cheaper than building new prisons.


  54. eaglesoars
    54 | September 14, 2019 8:36 pm

    @ lobo91:

    They didn’t forget anything. They’re looking for an excuse to not incarcerate illegals.

    I swear, if you reside in California, you should need a passport to get out. And still be denied.


  55. eaglesoars
    55 | September 14, 2019 8:41 pm

    How stupid do you have to be? I mean, really?

    The Ontario government lost $42M selling cannabis in the last year

    *thunk*

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-cannabis-loss-1.5282994?cmp=rss


  56. eaglesoars
    56 | September 14, 2019 9:02 pm

    I think this is the THIRD tweet this week the NYT has had to delete

    We have deleted an earlier tweet to this article that was poorly phrased

    Having a penis thrust in your face at a drunken dorm party may seem like harmless fun. But when Brett Kavanaugh did it to her, Deborah Ramirez says, it confirmed she didn’t belong at Yale in the first place

    poorly phrased

    https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1173027776925982720


  57. AZfederalist
    57 | September 14, 2019 9:06 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    @ rain of lead:

    dunno. They’re calling them ‘suicide’ drones tho………………

    In my world, we call that “missiles”. Doesn’t matter if it is an air breather or a rocket, if it is a lethally armed, guided system, it’s a missile.


  58. AZfederalist
    58 | September 14, 2019 9:10 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    California Passes Bill To Ban Private Prisons – Including ICE Detention Centers

    Umm, I believe the gets slapped down in a couple of heartbeats. A state does not have authority to dictate to the federal government how to run federal business. Interstate commerce act is pretty clear.


  59. eaglesoars
    59 | September 14, 2019 9:14 pm

    @ AZfederalist:

    It’s a cultural thing. They get to go to suicide drone jihadi heaven


  60. eaglesoars
    60 | September 14, 2019 9:16 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    A state does not have authority to dictate to the federal government how to run federal business. Interstate commerce act is pretty clear.

    sanctuary cities respectfully disagree


  61. AZfederalist
    61 | September 14, 2019 10:21 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    sanctuary cities respectfully disagree

    … and it is only because of either lack of will or lack of resources that the leaders of those cities are not being charged with aiding and abetting. Arizona got slapped down when we wanted to help ICE and were told in no uncertain terms that the federal government is responsible for enforcing the borders of the US. The same argument can be made against the sanctuary cities and, like that judge, those protecting the illegals can be charged with aiding and abetting.


  62. yenta-fada
    62 | September 14, 2019 10:22 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    How stupid do you have to be? I mean, really?

    The Ontario government lost $42M selling cannabis in the last year

    *thunk*

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-cannabis-loss-1.5282994?cmp=rss

    We’re good! They made the stuff so damn expensive, everybody stayed with their old dealers. So many politicians were climbing on to the Board of directors for the various companies waiting for their paydays. They wouldn’t open any retail outlets for months because the gov’t was paranoid. There were communities playing NIMBY over reefer madness. Last month the Province held a raffle for applications to open stores and some of the former felons won. It was REEFER MADNESS. Vancouver had home delivery of the dope of your choice for years. I think people from other Provinces were having weed mailed from Vancouver, but I’m not sure.

    You can’t buy booze from anywhere in Ontario Provincially owned store. Greedy gov’t was/is used to complete control of highly overpriced alcohol sales. They thought weed was going to be the same Soviet cakewalk.


  63. yenta-fada
    63 | September 14, 2019 10:24 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    @ AZfederalist:

    It’s a cultural thing. They get to go to suicide drone jihadi heaven

    And all this time we thought they were backward barbarians.


  64. yenta-fada
    64 | September 14, 2019 10:31 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    WHAT??!!

    1) Cameron Ortis, the Canadian Law Enforcement official arrested in Ottawa for alleged espionage, was heading up the money laundering investigation connected to the Magnitsky murder.

    https://twitter.com/TrueQanuck11/status/1172994232308641793

    This is a big deal. I didn’t read the news today. Armstrong talks about the Magnitsky case all the time. He was asked to participate in the Hermitage hedge fund for hundreds of millions of dollars when Bill
    Browder started it up. Magnitsky was an innocent who got murdered in prison. The Fund stole PUTIN’S money, and Vlad has wan’t the Browder guy for years from the (I think) Yanks.
    How the RCMP was mixed in it I have no idea yet.


  65. yenta-fada
    65 | September 14, 2019 10:32 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Vlad wanted. typo


  66. eaglesoars
    66 | September 14, 2019 10:37 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Last month the Province held a raffle for applications to open stores and some of the former felons won.

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


  67. eaglesoars
    67 | September 14, 2019 10:40 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    How the RCMP was mixed in it I have no idea yet.

    Can you spell ‘Fusion GPS’? How much you wanna bet?


  68. yenta-fada
    68 | September 14, 2019 10:42 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Sigh. I meant you can ONLY buy booze in Government run stores in Ontario. When I could still do the food shopping you couldn’t buy beer or wine in Supermarkets. I don’t think that has changed except for some Ontario made wines. Our taxes are some of the worst in the world. When we used to go down to Florida we stocked up on ALL of our clothing and shoes and are still wearing it. Canadians closer to the US border drive over for gas and groceries as well. It’s a multi generational ritual, even with our lousy dollar. It’s all about high taxes at every point of production or importation.


  69. eaglesoars
    69 | September 14, 2019 10:43 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    those protecting the illegals can be charged with aiding and abetting.

    There’s a big stink going on here in Maryland, Montgomery County. 8 illegals arrested in weeks for sexual assaults against CHILDREN. It won’t call itself a sanctuary county but that’s what it is. The chief county supervisor signed and executive order making it so. No public debate, no votes, no nothing. Larry O’Conner (talk show host) and Michelle Malkin had a big rally on Friday.


  70. eaglesoars
    70 | September 14, 2019 10:46 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Canadians closer to the US border drive over for gas and groceries as well.

    yeah, I’ve seen the border signs. If you guys ever get your act together, New Hampshire will go broke


  71. Aussie Infidel
    71 | September 14, 2019 10:46 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Possum:
    We know some chicken and some pig folks. They take this VERY SERIOUSLY

    Alas not so much in China.

    Swine flu is totally out of control in China and is spreading via Central Asia to the Eastern European pig herd. Bird flu is also verging on breaking out at any time especially in southern China where birds become vectors to other diseases via bird flu mutations.

    In China especially pigs and fowl live in VERY close proximity and mostly within feet of human habitation. Hence the problem that we keep seeing with epidemics originating out of Southern China.


  72. yenta-fada
    72 | September 14, 2019 10:48 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    How the RCMP was mixed in it I have no idea yet.

    Can you spell ‘Fusion GPS’? How much you wanna bet?

    Magnitsky is a separate issue I think, but ‘Russian collusion’ is certainly not a far stretch of the imagination. Obama and that bunch piled into Canadian politics with money and advisors to get the Moron Prince elected.


  73. Aussie Infidel
    73 | September 14, 2019 10:48 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    How the RCMP was mixed in it I have no idea yet.

    Can you spell ‘Fusion GPS’? How much you wanna bet?

    Bet?

    I may be dumb but I’m not that stupid!

    🙂


  74. eaglesoars
    74 | September 14, 2019 10:57 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Magnitsky is a separate issue I think,

    no it isn’t. It was part of the bait used by the Fusion GPS moles to get a mtg w/Trump jr.


  75. Aussie Infidel
    75 | September 14, 2019 10:59 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    How the RCMP was mixed in it I have no idea yet.

    Can you spell ‘Fusion GPS’? How much you wanna bet?

    Can’t remember which way the roundabout spying ring goes. Clockwise or anti-clockwise(counterclockwise)….
    CA<-US<-UK<-AU<-NZUS->UK->AU->NZ->CA

    Then everyone SWAPS all of the INTEL and everybody can SWEAR hand on heart THAT THEY DO NOT spy on their own citizens!

    Ahhh The “good olde’ 5 Eyes” shuffle

    🙂


  76. eaglesoars
    76 | September 14, 2019 11:02 pm

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    Bet?

    I may be dumb but I’m not that stupid!

    I’ll go even deeper. From Fusion GPS to Nellie Ohr and her FBI husband who were Fusion’s back channel to the FBI. They’ve got them dead to rights and SOMEBODY flipped on this guy to U.S. authorities, because it was the U.S. who gave the Canadians a heads up.


  77. Aussie Infidel
    77 | September 14, 2019 11:02 pm

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    CA<-US<-UK<-AU<-NZ-UK->AU->NZ->CA->US


  78. Aussie Infidel
    78 | September 14, 2019 11:04 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    Bet?

    I may be dumb but I’m not that stupid!

    I’ll go even deeper. From Fusion GPS to Nellie Ohr and her FBI husband who were Fusion’s back channel to the FBI. They’ve got them dead to rights and SOMEBODY flipped on this guy to U.S. authorities, because it was the U.S. who gave the Canadians a heads up.

    I must read Bogjino’s book now I have a Kindle


  79. Aussie Infidel
    79 | September 14, 2019 11:06 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    My aching back

    Been painting my daughter’s ceilings for the past 5 hours!

    Groan!

    A dad’s work is never done!

    Never!

    🙂


  80. Aussie Infidel
    80 | September 14, 2019 11:08 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    Bet?

    I may be dumb but I’m not that stupid!

    I’ll go even deeper. From Fusion GPS to Nellie Ohr and her FBI husband who were Fusion’s back channel to the FBI. They’ve got them dead to rights and SOMEBODY flipped on this guy to U.S. authorities, because it was the U.S. who gave the Canadians a heads up.

    I’m gagging … Gagging I tells ya… That they get McCabe to flip as well.

    That is where the BIG heads will begin to roll.

    🙂

    I want to see former State, FBI and CIA supremos doing the perp walk..

    🙂


  81. Aussie Infidel
    81 | September 14, 2019 11:13 pm

    Mrs Aussie Infidel is looking sideways at me.

    I can take a hint.

    I think I should hit the showers before I offend anyone … else…..

    🙂

    Cheers

    🙂


  82. eaglesoars
    82 | September 14, 2019 11:20 pm

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    {waves to Mrs. Aussie!}


  83. eaglesoars
    83 | September 14, 2019 11:22 pm

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    I must read Bogjino’s book now I have a Kindle

    Also The Russia Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump by Gregg Jarrett


  84. lobo91
    84 | September 14, 2019 11:28 pm

    Today’s dumbest Tweet of the day:

    TexasMomsforBeto!
    ‏ @texlynnforever

    TexasMomsforBeto! Retweeted Schuyler Smith

    Here is the thing… I don’t think you could even eat the meat of an animal killed with a semi automatic weapon. It would be so full of shrapnel. #Beto2020 #nomorefear


  85. eaglesoars
    85 | September 14, 2019 11:40 pm

    I JUST found this but I have to go to bed, but it’s important so you guys read it and I’ll pick it up tomorrow (I’ll find parts 1 & 2, also)

    We all know of Five Eyes.

    Well, meet Nine and Fourteen


    So, who are the “Nine Eyes” and what do they do?

    There is another working agreement amongst 14 nations officially known as SIGINT Seniors Europe, or “SSEUR”. These “14 Eyes” consist of the same members of Nine Eyes plus Belgium, Germany, Italy, Spain and Sweden.
    Alleged by Privacy International, there are a number of issue-specific intelligence agreements that include some or all the above nations and numerous others, such as:

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1134506434215809025.html


  86. eaglesoars
    86 | September 14, 2019 11:41 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I saw that. Written by somebody who never had to clean the pheasants Dad and the buys came back with.


  87. AZfederalist
    87 | September 15, 2019 12:05 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    Today’s dumbest Tweet of the day:

    TexasMomsforBeto!
    ‏ @texlynnforever

    TexasMomsforBeto! Retweeted Schuyler Smith

    Here is the thing… I don’t think you could even eat the meat of an animal killed with a semi automatic weapon. It would be so full of shrapnel. #Beto2020 #nomorefear

    Hopefully somebody on twitter is diplomatically ripping her a new one.

    #nomorefear? Really? So, let me get this straight, disarming law abiding citizens when you know criminals and the criminally insane will still be armed will allow citizens to fear no longer? These are some seriously mentally deficient people


  88. lobo91
    88 | September 15, 2019 12:30 am

    @ AZfederalist:

    Hopefully somebody on twitter is diplomatically ripping her a new one.

    A whole bunch of someones…


  89. AZfederalist
    89 | September 15, 2019 12:51 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    A whole bunch of someones…

    😆


  90. 91 | September 15, 2019 2:30 am

    @ rain of lead:

    If there’s one myth I’d like to bury, it’s that Robert A. Heinlein is a Fascist.

    Even if it kills me I’ll work to establish the Heinlein system as the government of the United States.

    So what’s the system Heinlein described in his novel Starship Troopers? (Don’t bother to see the movie, it wasn’t a proper adaptation of the novel.)

    Heinlein wrote the novel to be the part of the juvenile series of science fiction novels published by Scribners and as a response to pro-Soviet peace activism. In the novel a young man grows from a naive high school student to a junior officer in the army. The narrative of the novel also serves as the framework for a series of lectures about the nature of man, morals, war, and government. The most controversial concept in the novel is that not everyone should be allowed to vote. In the place of universal suffrage Heinlein proposed the idea that the legal status of Citizen, who is a member of the sovereign class of the nation with the authority to vote, has to be earned.

    Then as now there were people who clearly didn’t understand the concept of government. Then as now there were those who sought to exploit the ignorance of the mere voter in order to obtain political power. And worse to obtain power without restraint. Heinlein had proposed the idea of earning the sovereign franchise as a filtering mechanism to prevent obvious fools, such as peace activists, from influencing government.

    The idea of the restricted franchise isn’t new. In the Polis of Athens the franchise was restricted to property owning members of the tribe but there was no legal restraint on the state. As history had shown this led to dysfunctions such as historic legal murder of Socrates. It wasn’t enough to restrict the powers of government but to restrict who could actually participate in the process of governing. In practical effect to idiot proof the system.

    So is it actually necessary to fully implement the system that Heinlein proposed?

    The fact is that all forms of authority are based on knowledge and political authority is no exception. But in the present system political authority is granted to any warm body without regard to their their actual state of knowledge. As a result some warm bodies have traded their votes for a material object such as an IPad or a wad of cash. Or worse, they’ve traded their votes for the warm and fuzzy feeling of having been compassionate.

    The result is the present state of our nation. Those who lack knowledge or simple concern for consequences shouldn’t have authority over another person, let alone the fate of a nation.

    My solution to the problem is simply proper education in the obligations of citizenship.

    The course would be similar to a driver education course as presently taught. The first part of the class covers The Constitution, the proper functions of each branch of government, the function of each clause and amendment, the duties of the citizen as a member of the sovereign authority of the nation, and what’s expected to happen when the Federal Government enters the failure mode.

    The second part of the course covers the function and use of the instrument of political authority, the personal weapon. This covers rifle marksmanship and maintenance. Also covered is the basic organization and tactics of the citizen militia unit.

    While the citizenship course won’t be mandatory, completion and a passing grade will be required to exercise the authority to vote.


  91. coldwarrior
    92 | September 15, 2019 7:54 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Dammit…I might….

    Well, I have to bet on Clemson to beat the 27 pt spread at Syracuse.

    I’m getting stomped, again.

    good thing too…

    3/6 this week, so no change in the money….7/16. $800/$1000


  92. lobo91
    93 | September 15, 2019 10:40 am

    ‘I Still Like Trump’s Chances’: Pennsylvania’s Forgotten Say The President Is Their Man For 2020

    It is not an unusual sentiment in this blue-collar corner of Pennsylvania: “I voted Trump last time, and I’ll vote Trump next time because there’s a lot of loonies out there.”

    What is unusual is that Gary Reese, 75, served as the Democratic mayor of Kingston, a town in Luzerne County at the heart of what used to be the state’s coal belt, in the 1990s. “The Democrats used to be about the working man,” he continued. “Now, they sound like communists.”

    Luzerne County emerged as one of the bellwethers of Mr Trump’s unlikely 2016 victory, a place where a predominantly white, blue-collar electorate plumped for the Republican nominee. Here, successive victories for Barack Obama were transformed into a Trump win of 26,000 votes — more than half his winning margin in a state that flipped from blue to red.

    Voters were motivated by his promise to bring back jobs, keep out illegal immigrants, and to speak for a population who believed they had been forgotten.


  93. 94 | September 15, 2019 11:34 am

    Cold… If you are running short of thread material…

    https://thewildernessofmirrors.wordpress.com/the-pen-is-not-mightier-than-the-sword-nor-has-it-ever-been/


  94. AZfederalist
    95 | September 15, 2019 4:40 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Nice. Well stated.


  95. rain of lead
    96 | September 15, 2019 7:58 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    @ AZfederalist:

    what he said about what you said.


  96. eaglesoars
    97 | September 15, 2019 9:00 pm

    Ah crap. Lead singer of The Cars, Ric Ocasek has died. 74 I think.


  97. lobo91
    98 | September 15, 2019 9:19 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Eddie Money died on Friday, I believe


  98. eaglesoars
    99 | September 15, 2019 9:23 pm

    @ lobo91:

    When Keef goes, I’m done.


  99. lobo91
    100 | September 15, 2019 9:33 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    We probably all are


  100. lobo91
    101 | September 15, 2019 9:35 pm

    Another snippet of Ally Venable’s set from Friday afternoon:


  101. lobo91
    102 | September 15, 2019 9:46 pm

    Heh…I just spotted myself in that video


  102. 103 | September 15, 2019 11:02 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    When Keef goes, I’m done.

    Me too.


  103. eaglesoars
    104 | September 15, 2019 11:11 pm

    @ The Other Les:

    Good thing he’s immortal

    I’m out, nite.


  104. yenta-fada
    105 | September 16, 2019 1:06 am

    A man was telling his buddy: “You won’t believe what happened last
    night. My daughter walked into the living room and said: ‘Dad, cancel
    my allowance immediately, forget my college tuition loan, rent my room
    out, throw all my clothes out the window, take my TV and my laptop.
    Please take any of my jewelry to the Salvation Army or Cash
    Converters. Then sell my car, take my front door key away, and throw
    me out of the house. Then disown me and never talk to me again. And
    don’t forget to write me out of your will and leave my share to any
    charity you choose.”

    “Holy Smokes,” replied the friend, “she actually said that?”

    “Well, she didn’t put it quite like that. Her exact words were:”

    “Dad, meet my new boyfriend, Mohammed. We’re going to work together on
    Bernie Sander’s presidential campaign.’”


  105. 106 | September 16, 2019 11:40 am

    Can an AR-15 identify as a .22 revolver?


  106. coldwarrior
    107 | September 16, 2019 12:26 pm

    New thread


  107. coldwarrior
    108 | September 16, 2019 12:27 pm

    right_wing2 wrote:

    Can an AR-15 identify as a .22 revolver?

    Yes.


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