the 10 days off is over. Back to work…4 night shifts in a row. Any help for posts would be appreciated.
Thursday Open
by coldwarrior ( 69 Comments › )Filed under Open thread at January 9th, 2020 - 12:06 am
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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
Are You Pondering What I’m Pondering?
I think so, Brain … but if you’re not supposed to take a knife to a gun fight, why do they issue bayonets?
rain of lead wrote:
Last resorts probably.
Better than trying to hit someone with an empty gun!
But not much better.
🙂
Oh and bayonets are great for opening tins of baked beans when you have lost your opener too.
🙂
@ Aussie Infidel:
Nothing works better than a strongly worded letter.
The big news this morning? Brace yourself,Prince Harry and Megan Msrkle have announced that they are dropping out of the royal family. Seriously,that’s big news and they say that they want to earn their own money.Riiiiiight.
She can act ,but Harry has no discernible talents or skills. Although he did make this announcement in his underwear ,so maybe he will do Tommy John commercials.
@ RIX:
Oh you have NO idea just how big it is. After 2 years of everybody telling Harry he’d married a grifter – it turns out he’s married a grifter.
It turns out their announcement was made in defiance of the Queen’s explicit instructions to work thru the details first. They announced anyway w/o telling her or the royal family.
I won’t go into the details of the rules the press has to work with to report on the royals, but yesterday “a palace source” was quoted as saying “the deceit has been staggering”. That comes only with permission from Her Majesty.
“as we work for financial independence” is a hoot. It turns out they’ve trademarked just about everything you can think of. They think they’re going to monetize the monarchy. There have been rumors that their ‘charities’ have been set up in the US as an LLC. I gather it would work like the Clinton Foundation. Give to their ‘charities’ – of which Harry & Meghan are the biggest beneficiaries.
Right now, it looks like it’s all been about the money. The royals are really restricted in how that can generate income and they are dependent to a great extent on the Crown. Meghan figured that if they could thread that needle, they can make out like the Obamas.
word to the wise. Don’t piss off the Queen. A former king made that mistake and the next time he saw England he was in a coffin.
The good people of Britain are incandescent. If Harry & Meghan want their privacy and what passes for a personal life, fine. But even people who don’t support the monarchy as an institution revere Elizabeth and the disrespect shown to her has brought the knives out. They want those two back in Canada YESTERDAY
So taking a break from the politics.
This weekend I’m onboard for losses by both the 49ers and the Seahawks (yeah, I know the Vikes beat my Black and Gold last Sunday but they put up a hell of a game). I’d love an all NFC North Conference game. I also never want to see the 49ers in the Super Bowl EVER again. As far as the AFC – Ravens and the Chiefs.
However, I’m sure the word has already gone out in the deep channels that dumbass Goodell really wants a rematch of the Krapperdick Super “HarBowl” (“the night the lights went out in the Dome”). What he doesn’t realize is that probably over 70% of the country will be rooting for Baltimore.
My prediction is that unless someone has a very bad day (like Brees did), Baltimore takes it all.
RIX wrote:
I watched that series “Suits.” NO, she can’t.
eaglesoars wrote:
No kidding. After watching “The Crown” and other documentaries relating to the Windsors, it was the Queen that kicked their worthless asses to the curb re her having the title HRH and refusal to allow her back into the country.
@ The Barbarian:
She’s did a pretty good job in the UK, I’ll give her that.
Good news from the Fifth Circuit (Sits in New Orleans and used to be counted on to be somewhat liberal if the case couldn’t be filed in either the 9th or 2nd Circuits. No more.
L Lin Wood’s partner, Bob Barnes, served the individual defamation suits yesterday – to Reza Aslan, Kathie Griffin, Ana Navarro, Maggie Habermann and ELIZABETH WARREN.
Links here:
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=385216
Now I will remind everyone that Wood addressed a letter last February to these individuals that they were to delete their original libelous tweets and issue a public apology. Aslan didn’t delete his tweet until YESTERDAY, after the suit was served. Now he can be accused of spoliation of evidence.
The Barbarian wrote:
AHAHAHAHAHA!!
some reports the the IGRC is being purged
@ eaglesoars:
I was listening to John Nolte this a.m. on Breitbart News Daily on Sirius/XM and he also believes that it wasn’t that CNN was worried so much about the trial but about the DISCOVERY process in the lawsuit. I actually asked Wood on Twitter if he’d served discovery, but I seriously doubt I’ll get an answer.
If I were CNN, I’d be worried about the trial as well – especially after Eastwood’s “Richard Jewell” hit the theaters.
And those other individuals are probably going frantic in their Twitter feeds right now, realizing that they hadn’t deleted it.
@ The Barbarian:
I was a bit surprised at the amount they settled for. 10% of the original suit seems like it should have hurt more.
@ eaglesoars:
I’d have to say it’s within the realm of normal for a case that hasn’t actually proceeded to full-out discovery.
Of course, what’s hilarious is that CNN is claiming they are not admitting wrongdoing and their supporters are falling all over themselves saying that it’s not unusual for parties who are “innocent” in a lawsuit to settle.
Contrast this to the Trump U lawsuit settlement a few years ago when they “pounced” and stated this was proof that Trump was afraid of litigation oand that he KNEW he had been a con-man to these people.
The Barbarian wrote:
Do you know the details of that case? No? Neither do I. Neither does anyone else. Because it wasn’t reported. And the only reason it wasn’t reported is because there was no way to make Trump look bad.
The latest in the Harry and Meghan soap opera is that Meghan has flown back to Canada – because THEY LEFT THE BABY THERE.
Hey, who doesn’t use their kid as a bargaining chip?
it’s time for the blogmoc birthday song
Trip Around The Sun – Martina Mcbride Jimmy Buffett
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dV1myAW2Cs
happy 55th, momcat
@ rain of lead:
I LOVE that Song. From “License to Chill.” Do notice that Jimmy’s been a little quieter about politics when he found out he was pissing off the older Parrotheads.
@ The Barbarian:
the man does know how to read his fans
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/01/09/court-rules-trump-can-use-4-billion-military-funds-border-wall/
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/477288-first-possible-mystery-pneumonia-case-reported-in
eaglesoars wrote:
It’s the Soleimani loyalists being purged, reportedly. The regime is fragile and trying to hold on
@ The Barbarian:
My impression of Trump then was that he considered the lawsuits he settled and any part of his reputation as something to just get out of the way.
Maybe someone can make a New Year memory post. Favorite songs of NT2U, Best pun by BSM, Iron Fists greatest moment. I always like to remember those folks as still participating. 🙂 I know NT2U had a thing for cold green and gold derriers built on cheese. Don’t know any of her songs. My last few conversations with Iron Fist were about his tatoos. Did I leave any one out?
I usually find out a persons hard alcohol preference and line up the shots of the departed on New Years Eve. Getting a lot more difficult as a I age.
rain of lead wrote:
Trump better put out the horsepower now…
@ darkwords:
well Iron Fist swore off the booze a few years before getting sick, but as someone who was honored to get absolutely shit-faced with him, I think a bit of scotch would be in order.
WaPo: Justice Dept. winds down Clinton-related probe sought by Trump after finding nothing of consequence
paywalled, no link. Apparently all sources ‘anonymous’, simply ‘familiar with the matter’.
This is the Huber probe into the the FBI/Clinton Foundation investigation and Uranium One.
eaglesoars wrote:
I met him twice at the Ohio meet-ups in the mid-2000s when he rode up on his HD from TN. Quite the charachter. I cannot recall if he drank much– a lot of shooting, talking and grilling went on though. LOL. Inquisitive, nice guy with a rough exterior and a colorful past. Miss that guy.
morning y’all
it’s FRIDAY!!!
quote of the day
“Wanna know why the left is so miserable all the time? Because they are constantly, endlessly, 24/7/365, attempting to deny that reality is reality. It’s got to be exhausting, constantly screaming to yourself that black is white, and even more so demanding that everyone you meet not only share your delusion, but celebrate it. Honestly, these people are mentally ill”.
Stolen joke:
Apparently Prince Harry will step down from his position in order to spend more time away from his family.
eaglesoars wrote:
I remember our fabled LGF “Meet Up” in Oakland in 2005. Everyone was there, and it was organized by the “Fisted Glove” and Havoc (there’s a memory name) for the most part (I was part of the committee but didn’t do much to be honest). I remember Fist got completely s**tfaced and when he showed up the next morning for breakfast, I said something that a hair of the dog wouldn’t do, so I had ordered him an Irish Wolfhound.
eaglesoars wrote:
Can I just say I’m very skeptical? My guess is leak one thing and then when the reality is a clear 180 from the leak, allege that Barr interfered and made them change the report.
Heard an interesting theory on that Iranian downing of the jetliner. They did it on purpose, assuming that the U.S. would fire back after the missile strike. When the U.S. DIDN’T fire, they first claimed that it was mechanical failure. Their claiming the Black Box was “destroyed” (but not producing said destroyed article) raised eyebrows. Also, under international law, they probably learned that the NTSB is permitted to investigate this accident as it involved a Boeing aircraft. And those NTSB guys don’t play. Now they’re all about cooperation.
Plus, apparently a video has emerged showing the shooting down of the aircraft. And there is a long sequence at the beginning where nothing happens except the plane in the sky – maybe a minute or so. WHY would someone think to start filming NOTHING and then happen to catch a plane being blown out of the sky, unless perhaps it was your plan to blame the Americans and use it as evidence.
@ The Barbarian
Video was of second missile. Launch of first got the attention of people on the ground and they then started videoing the sky.
Ask military people here. You do not fire one…..
@ The Barbarian:
@ Possum:
CNN apparently playing along with the Iran narrative now. Saying airliner “caught in the crossfire”.
How do you have a crossfire when only one side is firing?
http://www.gopusa.com/?p=82639?omhide=true
World just got a lot quieter. Neil Peart died this week. 🙁
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/neil-peart-obit-1.5422806?fbclid=IwAR3j0owd0wIUKXPzO8-70YQFa-F3aNtc20ufGRB9tEwEhhUd02899LQN8qc
Roll the Bones…
https://youtu.be/2Pm6tb7HkRI
PaladinPhil wrote:
oh no.
i had the pleasure of seeing them live many, many times.
one of the top 3 or 4 drummers of all time.
@ coldwarrior:
Managed to see them once. At the Rock festival in Downsview Park in Toronto summer of 2003.
my best rush memory was when I was 16 yrs old and my first car had a cassette
tape player and a cheap set of speakers
I was taking a buddy home from school and when he got in the car he said
“dude, you gotta hear this and had me cue it up to this
YYZ (Live In Canada)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTUaMg0_MMQ&list=PLA2-nXsHvm3KfPqIblKhqFsd3AC4p-iy5&index=4
nuff said
@ rain of lead:
If you didn’t know YYZ is the navigation letters for Toronto Pearson International Airport. Homecoming essentially
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-riles-dems-by-refusing-to-pay-party-dues-bankrolling-her-colleagues-opponents
bwahahahahahahahahah
hahahahahahahahahah
*gasp*
bwahahahahahahah
, but the liberal darling won’t donate a cent of her millions to Democrats’ House campaign organization — a position that has rankled some of her colleagues,
rankled…?
I bet they are pissed.
Already, she’s actively funding primary challengers to oust certain Democratic colleagues.
*blink*blink*
rofl
damn, I needed that
Already, she’s actively funding primary challengers to oust certain Democratic colleagues.
@ PaladinPhil:
yup, I did.
to me, this was the best music they ever did
@ eaglesoars:
I have Scotch. I’ll swear off booze again some day but not yet.
@ rain of lead:
She DOES realize that the DNCC will be happy to fund a challenger for her seat, right?
she is superwoke
lobo91 wrote:
Yep, that pretty much removes all doubt that Iran accidentally shot it down. That’s not how crash sites are handled. Every piece of debris is carefully mapped and documented, then carefully moved to a remote site where re-assembly is attempted to aid in the investigation.
@ lobo91:
@ AZfederalist:
I just got an alert that said Iran has admitted to accidentally shooting down the plane. I didn’t catch what news source it was from, I’ve got several set up for notifications.
Here’s one
Iran says it ‘unintentionally’ shot down Ukrainian jetliner
https://www.wate.com/news/national-world/iran-says-it-unintentionally-shot-down-ukrainian-jetliner/
And Israel just became a natural gas superpower
https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/01/while-you-were-focused-on-soleimani-israel-became-a-natural-gas-superpower/
The Tamar Field
@ eaglesoars:
I have my doubts about the “accidental” part.
right_wing2 wrote:
Apparently a lot of people do. I find it reasonable that they thought it might be a U.S. aircraft and shot it down. I don’t see any reason they would take out a Ukranian passenger vehicle.
Of course, we don’t know anything about the IRANIANS that were on it. I’ve seen reports that the Suleimani supporters in the IRGC are being purged. That plane may have been a target-rich environment, especially if you remember that the Obama admin gave special status to quite a few of the Soleimani people (his daughter is a U.S. citizen).
On 9/11 the Saudis that lived next door were outta here w/in hours and didn’t come back for months. Like that.
@ eaglesoars:
One question I have is: why are they admitting anything?
Another is : what were the ground crews told? Even if they WEREN’T told civilian aircraft were grounded – and apparently they weren’t – that thing had to have a radar profile of a barn.
I think we have to keep in mind that the Iranians are simply incompetent schlubs. When you think of all the ‘weapons’ they’ve showed off that were simply laughable – I think there was a ‘stealth fighter’ that didn’t have any moveable control surfaces like FLAPS. Seriously, I’m a nobody American grandma who has flown commercial sometimes and even I caught that one.
When I remember all the Iranian friends I’ve had over the years, I’m just sad. What a waste of a beautiful culture and wonderful people.
@ eaglesoars:
Pretty much the entire Islamic world is that way. Ever notice that any Muslim-majority country that has an oil industry or anything similar is full of westerners? It has to be, because Muslims aren’t capable of running anything complicated.
I just looked at my phone, and it’s apparently 9 degrees.
This is why electric blankets were invented.
eaglesoars wrote:
The Republican Guards were on the highest alert level as the Iranian’s were expecting a Trump response to the missile attacks on the two US bases in Iraq.
Trump refused to be gulled into a response that would damage his re-election chances and de-escalated.
The Iranian Republican Guards were expecting a cruise missile attack and mistook the departing Ukranian Boeing 737-800 for a target. Idiots!
They fired two missiles. The first exploded in the general proximity of the B-737 and probably took out the ending on that side with shrapnel. Then the second missile actually struck the aircraft itself and that was the filmed explosion that was recorded. That missile caused the aircraft to begin to break up in the air, hence the very wide dispersal of the aircraft’s destruction field.
When the Iranians discovered that they had shot down a civilian aircraft departing on a regular transport route and following a Departure Procedure that took it close to an Iranian Revolutionary Republican Guard barracks they made up the story that it was an accident and a mechanical failure. They also refused to allow the black boxes to be recovered and bulldozed the impact field to cover up their error. Alas for them the US had a satellite overhead and recorded the whole attack. The intelligence was shown to Iranian representatives and that prompted the change of heart and the agreement to allow the NTSB and Boeing teams to investigate with Iranian Civil Aviation authorities.
The Republican Guards Unit that fired the two missiles are to be tried for negligence causing death. More moderate elements within the Iranians regime appear to be sanctioning the more maverick elements. Hence the fast stand down.
eaglesoars wrote:
On second thought, no I don’t. ALL our military aircraft are going to have a next-to-zero radar profile and they must know that. Unless it’s a B-52 in which case it wouldn’t be at 8000 feet and climbing.
eaglesoars wrote:
And we’d never send a B-52 into contested airspace in the first place. They carry standoff weapons for that reason.
If there’s any chance of SAMs in the target area, the attack would be carried out using B-2s.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
THAT is the kind of thing that just guts me.
I’m surprised that being faced with actual facts got them to fess up. They’ve never been persuaded by facts before.
I guess a technical question I have is – HOW did the missiles get fired in the first place? there is no way that aircraft ‘looked’ like anything but a civilian plane.
I have to go to bed.
I have to go to bed.
eaglesoars wrote:
It was a Parot 3 Departure with a climbing Right turn once airborne to pick up the 305 degree Radial to way point Parot. Several aircraft had already departed on this departure protocol prior to the Ukrainian flight. I can understand a missile crew on high alert but to shoot down a departing airliner that was departing directly overhead the TOR (SA 15) missile battery location is insane. What were these idiots thinking? Makes one wonder why other departure aircraft using the same Parot-3 Departure weren’t engaged as well earlier in the night. Perhaps the missile crew were briefed that a US missile response was very likely and as the night wore on they became more and more paranoid.
As someone said earlier …. are these the folks who can handle the stress of operating nukes?
eaglesoars wrote:
It was dark and dark increases the level of paranoia in crews, especially if they are not well trained and commanded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5aefcpypM0
Here is all you need to know.
Except the WHY these morons were placed in the operator seats of a missile launcher!
morning y’all
middle tn weather report
66 deg and windy as hell
serious straight line wind 30-40 mph
I think a storm is coming
the flowers in my yard think it’s spring
the buttercups lining my driveway have sprouted
“You’re Siding With Iran! You’re a Fraud!” Screaming Protester Crashes Elizabeth Warren Rally
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/youre-siding-with-iran-youre-a-fraud-screaming-protester-crashes-elizabeth-warren-rally-video/
I loved this part
2020 Dem candidate Elizabeth Warren was frightened into silence as the man screamed at her.
“AOC knows nothing.”
— President Trump
oh you know that’s gonna get her panties in a twist
https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/01/surging-in-two-early-state-polls-anti-trumper-tom-steyer-qualifies-for-next-democrat-debate/
https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/01/spiritual-adviser-marianne-williamson-ends-presidential-campaign/
@ rain of lead:
I cannot WAIT to see what happens with Steyer. He’s such a twank. Pompous little prick. Who still manages to be beyond boring
One thing I’ve wondered about the future – whatever you think about Trump, the entertainment value is off the charts
eaglesoars wrote:
This is the typical islamic “inshallah” mindset. They are on high alert meaning that the missile operators had one finger on the launch button. As soon as a target was detected and weapon quality track established they launched. This is not an unusual approach for people in that area of the world.