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  • Samantha Fish at the Oriental Theater

    by lobo91 ( 129 Comments › )
    Filed under Music, Music, Open thread at February 11th, 2020 - 9:00 am

    The second day of my recent excursion to Denver began with a trip to Buckley AFB, located in Aurora. Since I was officially moved from the Retired Reserve to the Army Retired List in December, I need to get a new ID card. Having some time to kill in a city with a nearby military installation seemed like the perfect time to accomplish that task without having to take more time off of work.After making the 35-minute drive to Buckley and getting through security, I then had to find the ID card office. After a bit of driving and an educated guess, I found my quarry. I then found a parking spot, grabbed a copy of my retirement orders, and headed inside. As I got to the front door, however, I spotted a sign taped to the glass, saying that the computer system that produces IDs was down, with “no estimated repair time.” I was reminded of the scene in National Lampoon’s Vacation where the Griswolds make it all the way to Wally World, only to learn that the park is closed for repairs. Sigh.

    Unlike Clark Griswold, I didn’t have the pleasure of being distracted by a blonde in a red Ferrari. I was, however, looking forward to seeing a blonde with a red cigar box guitar later that evening, so the day wasn’t a total loss.

    The Oriental Theater is a live music venue in the Berkeley district of Denver, a few blocks from where Ally Venable played the night before. It’s a very different venue, however. Originally built as a movie theater in 1927 and remodeled multiple times over the years, the Oriental is on the National Register of Historic Places. One thing it does have in common with Globe Hall, though, is a total lack of parking. By the time I got there at about 7:30, it had been snowing steadily for about 90 minutes, and showed no signs of letting up, so I really wanted to find a spot somewhere in the same time zone. Ultimately, I ended up parking about 3 blocks away.

    After trudging through the snow, I made my way back to the theater, shook the snow off, and went inside. The concert information had said “partial seating,” and they weren’t kidding. Although it has a listed capacity of around 1,000 patrons, there were only about 400 seats. The entire forward half of the main level was open (and packed with bodies already). I quickly decided that there had to be somewhere better, so I made my way back through the crowd and headed to the balcony.

    The situation up there was basically the reverse, with seats in the front and standing room in the back. I quickly staked out a spot against the wall, got a beer, and waited for the show to start. At 8:00 on the dot, the opening act got started. Unlike the night before, the AJ Fullerton Band, based out of Fort Collins, was actually pretty good (and played the same genre of music as the headliner—go figure!). The difference was simple enough, actually. The bands who played before Ally Venable were booked by the venue, while Samantha Fish booked AJ Fullerton for not only this show, but several other Colorado dates. You can do that when you’re Samantha Fish, I guess.

    Finally, the moment we’d all been waiting for arrived, and Sam and the boys took the stage. One thing I noticed right off was that they all came on stage together. Every time I’ve seen her before, Samantha has always made an “entrance,” sometimes timed to the second after the band has started playing. Once everyone was in place, she picked up her famous red cigar box guitar and launched into a blistering rendition of “Bulletproof,” the first track off the current album, Kill or be Kind. She then went straight into “Watch it Die,” followed by “You Got it Bad” and finally the title track—and changed guitars twice—before even stopping to catch her breath. The Fish faithful, including myself, were floored.

    By the time the night was over, we’d heard the entire Kill or be Kind album, along with a few older songs, including “Highway’s Holding Me Now,” off 2016’s Wild Heart, as well as “No Angels” and Blood in the Water” form the 2017 release Belle of the West. Finally, she closed out the regular set with the obligatory performance of “Crow Jane,” bookending the show with the cigar box. Of course, there was an encore. Finally, at my fifth Samantha Fish show, I got to hear “Bitch on the Run” live!

    As soon as the band lined up to take a bow, I made a bee-line for the stairs, because I know how the lines at the merchandise table can get. This time, I planned ahead, and brought a professionally-printed 11×14” photo taken at an earlier show to be autographed, which now occupies a place of honor on my wall at home. Samantha was as gracious as ever, posing for countless pictures and signing everything from CDs and T-shirts to a fan’s white Gibson SG, just like the one she frequently plays. Through it all, she seemed more relaxed than I’ve seen previously. She was definitely in control on stage, as well. From the moment she picked up her guitar and asked “How ya doin’, Denver?” that theater became her world, and we just lived in it.

    I’m not sure what the source of her new-found energy and confidence is, but I hope that it holds up. If so, this might just be the Year of the Fish!

    Sam and her white Gibson SG

    The Oriental Theater

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    129 Responses to “Samantha Fish at the Oriental Theater”
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    1. rain of lead
      1 | February 11, 2020 12:22 pm

      So Bloomberg’s 2015 speech about stop and frisk of African American youths ain’t going over so well.
      I wonder who leaked that audio?


    2. eaglesoars
      2 | February 11, 2020 1:13 pm

      Oh man, watch heads explode

      The prosecution was going for a 7-9 yr sentence for Roger Stone. Trump tweets that it’s excessive and DOJ is now ‘backpedaling’.

      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/doj-backpedalling-sentencing-recommendation-trump-ally-roger-stone-n1134961


    3. eaglesoars
      3 | February 11, 2020 2:11 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      Wait until somebody resurrects THIS video.

      ““Xi Jinping is not a dictator.””

      https://twitter.com/CortesSteve/status/1227295401142820873


    4. eaglesoars
      4 | February 11, 2020 3:23 pm

      Aaron Zelinsky has ‘withdrawn’ from Stone prosecution case.

      No, Barr fired his ass. Donuts to dollars, this is the guy who told DOJ Stone would get a reasonable sentence, then sprung the 7-9 year ‘surprise’ hammer. Barr stomped his ass and he has ‘withdrawn’.

      This guy is right up there with Andrew Weissman when it comes to corrupt lawyers, only without the brain power.

      https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/roger-stone-prosecutor-abruptly-withdraws-from-case-and-resigns-after-doj-seeks-lighter-sentence/


    5. eaglesoars
      5 | February 11, 2020 3:26 pm

      Yep. Fired.

      he has resigned “effective immediately” as a “Special Assistant US Attorney for the District of Columbia.”

      buh bye.

      https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1227323959022100480


    6. eaglesoars
      6 | February 11, 2020 3:56 pm

      Barr rocks.

      He’s got that sanctuary cities thing going but people missed this part. He wants to hold gov’t officials criminally liable for harboring criminals

      And Mr. Barr said he’s ordered a review to see whether the Justice Department can use a criminal law “that prohibits the harboring or shielding of aliens in the United States” against jurisdictions that have sanctuary policies.

      https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/feb/10/william-barr-looks-criminal-charges-sanctuary-citi/


    7. eaglesoars
      7 | February 11, 2020 4:04 pm

      Now Jonathan Kravis has also ‘resigned’

      https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1227336436426461184


    8. 8 | February 11, 2020 4:09 pm

      I’m waiting to see who gets frogmarched out of the White House next. I hear that the author of that “Anonymous” book is in their sights and I’m going to be pretty sure that they’re going to have all their t’s crossed and i’s dotted before he’s exposed.

      Meanwhile Schumer is snotting that there needs to be protections for those who want to “whistleblow” on the President. Dude, you don’t get to plant spies in the White House.


    9. eaglesoars
      9 | February 11, 2020 4:18 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      Meanwhile Schumer is snotting that there needs to be protections for those who want to “whistleblow” on the President

      Right now, I think every DA/IG in the country is being as still as a bunny, hoping Barr doesn’t notice them and Chuckles is being ignored.


    10. rain of lead
      11 | February 11, 2020 4:26 pm

      hey y’all

      is this fun or what


    11. eaglesoars
      12 | February 11, 2020 4:26 pm

      Sources told The Federalist that Timothy Shea, who was recently appointed to take over as the top federal prosecutor in D.C. earlier this month, was bullied into agreeing to the sentence recommendation by Adam Jed and Aaron Zelinsky,

      https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/11/mueller-prosecutors-may-have-lied-to-doj-about-stone-prison-sentence-recommendation/


    12. eaglesoars
      13 | February 11, 2020 4:36 pm

      Andrew Weinstein’s tweet has been deleted, but the RT’s have it

      The United States Department of Justice no longer exists. It’s now a wholly owned subsidiary of Trump, Inc

      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

      https://twitter.com/themarketswork/status/1227342129044717568


    13. eaglesoars
      14 | February 11, 2020 4:50 pm

      Trifecta!

      THIRD Stone prosecutor, Aaron Jed, has now resigned

      https://twitter.com/alexsalvinews/status/1227348269686087680


    14. coldwarrior
      15 | February 11, 2020 5:02 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      I want jail time, families ruined, pensions taken.


    15. eaglesoars
      16 | February 11, 2020 5:06 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      I want jail time, families ruined, pensions taken.

      Don’t forget the dawn swat raids w/CNN cameras – oh, ‘scuse me, FOX cameras – to record your wife being dragged out of the house in her whatevers, kids screaming in the background.

      I’ll give them ‘justice’ until they beg for mercy. Then I’m all outta ‘mercy’


    16. rain of lead
      18 | February 11, 2020 5:08 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      CNN is currently digging through the tent’s old tweets.


    17. Aussie Infidel
      19 | February 11, 2020 5:19 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      @ eaglesoars:
      A British company has built a prototype rocket engine that it claims could halve the journey time between Earth and Mars.

      In a landmark test, the miniature prototype engine, built by Pulse Fusion, shot the propellant gas argon through a 12-inch wide nozzle at a top speed of 56,000mph for around two-and-a-half minutes.

      If the engine is scaled to full-size, it could reach 100,000mph – more than double the maximum exhaust speed of 40,000mph achievable by current rockets using traditional propulsion methods – according to Pulse Fusion.

      Mr Dinan claims that using traditional engines to reach orbit and then switching to the new argon ion-powered thrusters could slash the time it takes for spacecraft to reach Mars in half.

      It could also pave the way for a future nuclear fusion-powered rocket engine capable of up to 500,000mph, making expeditions beyond our solar system a realistic possibility.

      The engine works by superheating the gas to around 1,600°C, and magnetising it, so that Argon particles fly out the back at immense speeds.

      But ion thrusters work efficiently at much lower temperatures than nuclear fusion.

      in order to achieve a propulsion method powered by nuclear fusion, the engine would have to create and sustain temperatures in excess of 100,000,000°C.

      Richard Dinan, CEO of the firm and former Made in Chelsea star, said: ‘This is a perfectly functional, full size ion engine and could be immediately commercialised for space applications.’

      However the aim of scientists at Pulse is to build an engine that can operate at fusion temperatures, offering still greater velocities far in excess of 500,000mph.

      ‘This is the mission for our second, larger prototype we are starting work on later this year,’ Mr Dinan said.

      Current rockets using traditional propulsion methods and fuel are effective at reaching orbit but have a maximum exhaust speed of around 40,000mph.

      Pulse Fusion thinks this can be improved, and has spent £500,000 on the prototype, including research and development.

      It says the end result could be commercially produced for around £50,000 and has the potential to be up to ten times more efficient than existing methods.

      Head of operations at Pulsar, Dr James Lambert said: ‘This first round of tests is designed to locate our concept in space design and explore state of the art electric propulsion.’

      But although the firm has identified a niche, it will take a significant amount of work to make it viable for actual space missions.

      Pulse says the thrusters are great once in space as they can maintain high speeds, but struggle with acceleration.

      It envisions a future where solid or liquid fuels will get rockets from ground to orbit, at least for the next decade, and then once in space, the traditional engines would be switched off in favour of fusion thrusters.

      Mr Dinan said: ‘The issue with thrusters like this as they are is acceleration, it takes them a long time to accelerate the craft to these speeds.

      ‘Similar devices are currently used in space for adjusting satellites and repositioning.

      ‘But for interplanetary space travel, more powerful plasma engines are required.

      ‘This is why Pulsar fusion is dedicated to the development of hot fusion engines which would really be able to open the path to interplanetary travel.

      ‘NASA has invested in this technology also.’

      But despite NASA working on similar technology and its developers believing it is a viable option for long-term space travel in future, Pulse is currently working independently.

      A miniature ion-propulsion engine (pictured) has been tested by British scientists which flung out particles at around 56,000mph. The incredible speeds achieved through the 12-inch wide nozzle of the argon engine lasted for around two-and-a-half minutes

      A miniature ion-propulsion engine built by British scientists, and headed by Richard Dinan (pictured), reached a top speed of 56,000mph in a ground-breaking test

      ‘The engine is based off a what is knows as a ‘Hall Effect’ Thruster (pictured, the inner workings of the engine). Pulsar adapted this design specifically for research into nuclear fusion thrust

      The incredible speeds achieved through the 12-inch wide nozzle of the argon engine lasted for around two-and-a-half minutes. The gas is superheated, magnetised and particles fly out the back at immense speeds, which could reach 100,000mph if scaled to full-size

      So is it feasible hear you say?

      Yes it is along as you can use Magnetic Confinement and Lithium deuteride lining. See Dr Don Lincoln from Fermilab on Youtube talking about fusion containment issues

      “…..the engine would have to create and sustain temperatures in excess of 100,000,000°C.”


    18. eaglesoars
      20 | February 11, 2020 5:21 pm

      Jesse Smollet has been indicted for filing false report

      *snort*


    19. rain of lead
      21 | February 11, 2020 5:22 pm

      wtf is high capacity ammunition

      https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/11/virginia-legislature-gun-confiscation-bill/


    20. eaglesoars
      22 | February 11, 2020 5:24 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      how do you test something that’s supposed to operate at temperatures in excess of 100,000,000°C?


    21. eaglesoars
      23 | February 11, 2020 5:25 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      wtf is high capacity ammunition

      https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/11/virginia-legislature-gun-confiscation-bill/

      oh, that’s not the half of it. Right to work, voter id, green new deal. this place will be a 3rd world country by the time I get out of here


    22. rain of lead
      24 | February 11, 2020 5:26 pm

      https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/11/gregory-timm-police-report-anti-trump-motivation/

      Police Report Reveals Why Anti-Trump Van Driver Targeted GOP Voter Registration Tent

      The man who allegedly drove his van through a Republican voter registration tent in Florida did so because he dislikes President Donald Trump


    23. Aussie Infidel
      25 | February 11, 2020 5:32 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      how do you test something that’s supposed to operate at temperatures in excess of 100,000,000°C?

      try it out in a LEO orbit


    24. Aussie Infidel
      26 | February 11, 2020 5:35 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      X-37 anyone?

      🙂


    25. Aussie Infidel
      27 | February 11, 2020 5:35 pm

      The drone that killed Soleimani

      The CIA’s Blade-Wielding ‘Flying Ginsu’ Missile
      Related image

      General Soleimani: He had quite a career as a “terrorist with American blood on his hands,” a summary of which is beyond the scope of this e-mail. What I want to do is give you “the rest of the story” concerning the details of his demise.

      It starts with Soleimani in the Bekaa Valley of Lebanon, at that moment working with the Hezbollah (Arabic for “Party of God”) in preparation for an attack on Israel. He was on the phone with leaders of the IRGC’s shia militia force in Iraq, known as the Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF), ordering and coordinating the attack on our American Embassy.

      Next day, he got on an Iranian plane and flew from Beirut to Baghdad International Airport (BIAP) where he was met plane side in the air cargo area apron by a van carrying PMF chief Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis and four of his leaders, all of whom were involved with the planned attack on the Embassy. Apparently Soleimani wanted to meet them in order to plan and direct the next phase of attacks against American targets in Iraq.

      Abu Mahdi greeted Soleimani and they got into the van. Just then a missile, launched from a drone high overhead, impacted the top of the van. There was no explosion but everyone and everything in the van was sliced to ribbons by blades emanating from the missile body.

      This was so effective that observers on the scene said none of the bodies of the van’s occupants could be identified individually. However, Soleimani was identified by his severed right hand, which still had his distinctive large ring on his finger.

      So there you have it ……….. “The Flying Ginsu” also known as the CIA’s new AGM-114R9X variant of the drone launched Hellfire Missile. The missile was designed to reduce or eliminate the killing of innocent bystanders.

      IT SLICES, IT DICES (but it doesn’t EXPLODE)

      CIA and the Pentagon reportedly have worked to keep knowledge of the existence and the capabilities of its AGM-114R9X variant Hellfire Missile a secret.

      This variant of the Hellfire missile was designed specifically for use with the CIA and U.S. Air Force armed drones in the ongoing hunt for “High Value” terrorist targets while limiting the “collateral damage” which might be caused by an exploding warhead.

      The secret came out recently when journalists arrived at the compound in a Turkish-controlled area of Syria where U.S. special operations forces had attacked and killed ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi several days before. The compound had been reduced to rubble by an U.S. airstrike after the ground raiders had departed.

      However, among other things the journalists found and photographed in the area around the compound was a minivan with an 8″ hole in its roof, but which was otherwise in-tact. Inside the van was found the sliced-up remains of about four or five ISIS fighters tangled amongst a mass of what looked to be sword blades and pieces of a missile casing.
      Enjoy life on Earth…it has an expiration date !!!!


    26. eaglesoars
      28 | February 11, 2020 5:41 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      Thought you’d enjoy this

      CIA secretly owned world’s top encryption supplier, read enemy and ally messages for decades

      https://boingboing.net/2020/02/11/cia-secretly-owned-worlds-to.html

      What the headline doesn’t say is that it was jointly with West Germany. So assume the East Germans knew, and just unravel it from there…………


    27. eaglesoars
      29 | February 11, 2020 5:43 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      X-37 anyone?

      I’d love to know what that thing was up to


    28. eaglesoars
      30 | February 11, 2020 5:46 pm

      FOUR!

      DOJ prosecutor Michael Marando has withdrawn as counsel for the government.

      Tom Fitton is unhappy, thinking this makes Barr look bad. That’s their strategy, won’t work. Buck up Fitton.


    29. RIX
      31 | February 11, 2020 5:46 pm

      @ rain of lead:
      This is like Savanah Guthrie telling the Covington Catholic kid that had the crazy old coot in his face
      “Just standing your ground can be aggressive “


    30. rain of lead
      32 | February 11, 2020 6:51 pm

      nah, this boy is gonna be just fine

      Trump suggests military should consider additional discipline for Vindman
      https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/482638-trump-suggests-military-should-consider-additional-discipline-for

      Asked specifically if the Pentagon should pursue further action against Vindman, Trump said it would be “up to the military.”

      “But if you look at what happened, they’re going to certainly, I would imagine, take a look at that,” he said.


    31. eaglesoars
      33 | February 11, 2020 8:10 pm

      Jessie Liu was U.S. Attorney for District of Columbia. She oversaw the prosecution of Stone. Sidney Powell wants to eat her liver. She’s been part of the effort to fuck over Flynn, Manafort, et. al.

      Inexplicably, Trump up and nominates her for Dept. of Treasury, so she stepped down from the U.S. attorney position to clear THOSE decks. Trump replaced her with Shea (the guy who apparently just got ‘bullied’ by Zelinsky, et. al.).

      Trump just withdrew her nomination for Treasury.

      Checkmate.

      off the board, out of a job, see ya, bye, don’t let the door………….

      https://www.axios.com/trump-jessie-liu-treasury-us-attorney-838d1a3b-1d4d-414c-ac7d-77a7ba6d4edb.html


    32. eaglesoars
      34 | February 11, 2020 8:26 pm

      Andrew Yang is out. Seems like a nice enough guy


    33. AZfederalist
      35 | February 11, 2020 8:44 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      The man who allegedly drove his van through a Republican voter registration tent in Florida did so because he dislikes President Donald Trump

      Well, I am absolutely shocked. Who could have foreseen that?

      /OK, anybody with eyesight as good as or better than Stevie Wonder or Ray Charles, but I mean besides that?


    34. lobo91
      36 | February 11, 2020 8:48 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Apparently, Michael Bennet dropped out, as well.

      Not that anyone remembered he was running…


    35. Aussie Infidel
      37 | February 11, 2020 8:51 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      X-37 anyone?

      I’d love to know what that thing was up to

      Could be any of a number of things.

      1.You can probably strike off surveillance as its missions last for years and it doesn’t have enough fuel for multiple orbital changes and its payload is only 4-500 Kg
      2.Anti-Satellite system? Not enough fuel too.
      3.Research into long term exposure to space including LOE orbital damaged sustained in long term missions. Probably Yes.
      4.Research into ion engine tech. Definitely Yes
      5.Development work for a Manned /Optionally unmanned vehicle for the Space Force. Probably Yes
      6.


    36. rain of lead
      38 | February 11, 2020 8:52 pm

      Bernie Sanders 33,623 27.17%
      Pete Buttigieg 28,555 23.07%
      Amy Klobuchar 24,228 19.58%
      Elizabeth Warren 11,953 9.66%
      Joe Biden 10,559 8.53%
      Tom Steyer 4,326 3.50%
      Tulsi Gabbard 3,949 3.19%
      Andrew Yang 3,565 2.88%


    37. rain of lead
      39 | February 11, 2020 8:52 pm

      jeez, ol joe just fell right off the cliff


    38. AZfederalist
      40 | February 11, 2020 8:52 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Andrew Yang is out. Seems like a nice enough guy

      I suppose he was nice enough for a closet Marxist


    39. rain of lead
      41 | February 11, 2020 8:53 pm

      Donald J. Trump * 46,758 85.07%
      Bill Weld 4,997 9.09%
      Other 2,867 5.22%


    40. lobo91
      42 | February 11, 2020 8:54 pm


    41. AZfederalist
      43 | February 11, 2020 8:54 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      Bernie Sanders 33,623 27.17%

      Well, that should scare the living daylights out of the DNC


    42. lobo91
      44 | February 11, 2020 8:59 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      rain of lead wrote:

      Bernie Sanders 33,623 27.17%

      Well, that should scare the living daylights out of the DNC

      Time for an “accident”…


    43. eaglesoars
      45 | February 11, 2020 9:08 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      I suppose he was nice enough for a closet Marxist

      what closet?

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      6.

      If you’re doing manned, long-term, I’m thinking there might be some ag research in there.


    44. Aussie Infidel
      46 | February 11, 2020 9:18 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      AZfederalist wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      6.

      If you’re doing manned, long-term, I’m thinking there might be some ag research in there.

      Maybe for seeds prorogation survival times but as the mission times are now running into the 700+ days I can’
      t see living plants research happening.

      🙂


    45. eaglesoars
      48 | February 11, 2020 9:43 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      I thought everybody knew abut TTP a long time ago. It’s never been a secret. Here’s what I don’t get. Unless I’m really far off, if you are doing research for any kind of gov’t or academic institution, the fruits of that research belong to that organization.

      So I’m missing the part where any of these guys can sign an employment contract with TTP while still doing research that a priori belongs to the institution they’re working for.

      I can’t even find the dots that are supposed to be connected here……


    46. AZfederalist
      49 | February 11, 2020 9:57 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      I believe in academia, you are allowed to contract out your services as a consultant or a researcher. The fruits of your work as a consultant then belong to the organization that is paying you or that has provided the grant that you are using for your research. This is common practice — you get to do the research, and, within parameters, write papers and the granting organization gets good research for very low cost. In the case of grants, you use grad students and promising undergrads and either pay them a pittance or nothing because they are doing it “to gain experience”.


    47. eaglesoars
      50 | February 11, 2020 10:07 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      But the academic org has to sign off on it, I would think?


    48. Aussie Infidel
      51 | February 11, 2020 10:39 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      Thought you’d enjoy this

      CIA secretly owned world’s top encryption supplier, read enemy and ally messages for decades

      https://boingboing.net/2020/02/11/cia-secretly-owned-worlds-to.html

      What the headline doesn’t say is that it was jointly with West Germany. So assume the East Germans knew, and just unravel it from there…………

      Lovely…….
      🙂

      The CIA were able to read the secret messages of allies and enemies for decades after buying a Swiss company that owned the machines responsible for encrypting their codes.

      A joint investigation published Tuesday by Germany’s ZDF public broadcaster and The Washington Post shows that a firm called Crypto AG gave the CIA and West German spies access to the communications of more than 120 countries after making a multi-million dollar deal in the 1950s that Langley called the ‘intelligence coup of the century’.

      For more than 50 years, the CIA and West German intelligence helped rigged the devices sold to clients such as Iran, Latin American military juntas, India and Pakistan, so they could break their codes, steal secrets and take millions of dollars of their money.

      Agents controlled Crypto AG’s hiring decisions, helped design the technology to their liking and manipulated the algorithms so they could sabotage the channels international customers had trusted the firm to keep under wraps.

      The deal meant US intelligence could more closely monitor major diplomatic situations – such as the 1979 Iran hostage crisis – and were able to share intelligence with other countries.

      They gave Britain information on Argentina during the Falklands War, kept track of assassination plots on South American leaders.

      The CIA and the NSA controlled almost all of Crypto AG’s operations between the 1970s and 2018, when the company was sold and ended their work with intelligence agencies.

      With the millions earned from the project, that was known first by the code name ‘Thesaurus’ and later ‘Rubicon’, the BND used the proceeds to fund field operations, and the CIA bought up rival companies to establish a quasi-monopoly for Crypto, a German intelligence expert said.

      They reportedly sold secure models to friendly governments, and rigged systems for the rest of the world.

      Crypto, whose products are still in use in more than a dozen countries, was liquidated in 2018 and the two companies that purchased most of its assets say they have no ongoing connection to any intelligence services.

      But the 96-page account of the operation, completed in 2004 by the CIA’s Center for the Study of Intelligence, raises questions about whether the US knew about global atrocities and failed to intervene in order not to expose their secret.

      The report is also a 2008 complication of oral history from German intelligence officials.

      Similar U.S. operations involving manipulated communications equipment were detailed by Edward Snowden, a former American intelligence employee once based in Geneva who leaked a large trove of intelligence documents in 2013.

      The new report claims the CIA operation was based out of a military installation used by American troops in Munich and later in the attic of a building adjacent to the U.S. Consulate.

      It claims the National Security Agency controlled nearly every aspect of the operation and that eavesdropping targets were split into three areas; ‘A for the Soviets, B for Asia and G for virtually everywhere else’.

      The Washington Post report claims that by the early 1980s, more than half of the intelligence gathered by G group was going through Crypto machines.

      They managed to take over from rivals with a 1970 deal from the machine’s creator Boris Hagelin – who was originally from Russia, raised in Sweden, and then fled to the States in 1940.

      He planned on passing the company down to his son, Bo. But Bo – who the CIA considered a ‘wildcard’, died in a car crash that was not considered suspicious.

      ‘Imagine the idea of the American government convincing a foreign manufacturer to jimmy equipment in its favor,’ the documents obtained by the Post, state. ‘Talk about a brave new world.’

      Hagelin told only one member of the board, Sture Nyberg, about CIA involvement. They used code names for the operation and covered up ownership deals with the help of a German law firm that created shell companies and contracts that required only the signature of a ‘bearer’.

      The main adversaries of the U.S. in the Cold War, the Soviet Union and China, were never Crypto customers but other clients included Iran, India and Pakistan, military juntas in Latin America and the Vatican, the two outlets reported.

      ‘Foreign governments were paying good money to the U.S. and West Germany for the privilege of having their most secret communications read by at least two (and possibly as many as five or six) foreign countries,’ the CIA report from the 1970s states.

      The Washington Post reports that ‘the Germans were taken aback by the Americans’ willingness to spy on all but its closest allies, with targets including NATO members Spain, Greece, Turkey and Italy’.

      The operation allowed them to monitor Iran’s mullahs during the 1979 hostage crisis.

      NSA director Bobby Ray Inman said that when the Carter administration questioned them about the how the Ayatollah Khomeinei regime was reacting to the latest messages in a deal to free 52 hostages in the US Embassy: ‘We were able to respond to his questions about 85 percent of the time.’

      It also fed Britain intelligence about Argentina’s military during the Falklands War.

      But when Argentina questioned the encryption device’s security, they claimed the NSA likely cracked an older machine used but the latest CAG 500 machine was ‘unbreakable’.

      ‘The bluff worked,’ the newly-released CIA history says. ‘The Argentines swallowed hard, but kept buying CAG equipment.’

      Involvement of western spy agencies in Crypto had long been alleged. In 1992, a Crypto representative was arrested in Iran and spent months in prison before being released after the BND allegedly paid a $1 million dollar ransom.

      The incident was one of the reasons why the German spy agency left the politically sensitive operation in 1993, he said.

      Munich-based Siemens reportedly advised on business and technical issues in exchange for five percent ownership and Motorola made the devices less bulky over the years.

      Motorola knew it was being done for intelligence purposes.

      The CIA history ends around the time Germany left the program, but evidence shows the program continued. The CIA owned Crypto until 2018.

      Swiss authorities said Tuesday they have opened an investigation into allegations a Zug, Switzerland-based maker of encryption devices was a front operated by the CIA and West German intelligence that enabled them to break the codes of the countries that used their products.

      Swiss Defense Ministry spokeswoman, Carolina Bohren, told The Associated Press that ‘following research carried out by the media’ her office had notified the Cabinet about the Crypto case on November 5, 2019. On January 15, the decision was made to appoint a former supreme court judge to look into the reports and report back by the end of June.

      ‘The events under discussion date back to 1945 and are difficult to reconstruct and interpret in the present-day context,’ she said.

      The Associated Press reported that Erich Schmidt-Eenboom cast doubt on the notion that the Swiss government wasn’t aware of Crypto’s true nature.

      ‘That’s not credible,’ he said. ‘They shut both eyes.’

      Germany’s BND, the CIA, Siemens and Motorola refused to comment on the story.
      Konstantin von Notz, a lawmaker with Germany’s Greens party who sits on the parliamentary committee that oversees the BND, told ZDF that he has asked for answers to questions raised by the report about the operation.

      Crypto AG encryption customers from the 1950s to 2000s
      Argentina

      Austria

      Algeria

      Iran

      Bangladesh

      Brazil

      Angola

      Iraq

      Burma

      Czechoslovakia

      India

      Egypt

      Chile

      Jordan

      Greece

      Indonesia

      Gabon

      Colombia

      Kuwait

      Hungary

      Japan

      Ghana

      Honduras

      Lebanon

      Ireland

      Malaysia

      Guinea

      Oman

      Mexico

      Italy

      Pakistan

      Ivory Coast

      Qatar

      Nicaragua

      Portugal

      Philippines

      Libya

      Saudi Arabia

      Peru

      Romania

      South Korea

      Syria

      Mauritius

      Uruguay

      Spain

      Thailand

      Morocco

      U.A.E.

      Venezuela

      Turkey

      Vietnam

      Nigeria

      Vatican City

      Rep. of the Congo

      Yugoslavia

      South Africa

      Sudan

      Tanzania

      Tunisia

      Zaire

      Zimbabwe

      PLUS – United Nations


    49. eaglesoars
      52 | February 11, 2020 11:06 pm

      Sanders is leading Booty Boy by 2 points. I’m going to bed. It would be hilarious if I wake up tomorrow and Booty Boy has won it. Nite.


    50. Aussie Infidel
      53 | February 11, 2020 11:47 pm

      #2 son had a call back as an extra in the next Lord of the Rings Simerillion TV series as a ‘human’.

      🙂

      He has a proper beard rather than the usual ‘bum fluff’ that is going around these days.He’s done unarmed combat with the Police , he can ride a horse and he was the Fencing Captain at Auckland Grammar School so he knows his way around a sword.

      It was his sword skills that got him the part. So he’ll be ‘Man #8’ for the series unless he’s obviously killed off. In that case he’ll probably be resurrected as an Orc.

      🙂


    51. Aussie Infidel
      54 | February 12, 2020 12:02 am

      Best 2020 Campaign Ad So Far

      https://youtu.be/K14GsGwdhFQ

      How do you spell … H-O-M-E G-O-A-L ?

      🙂


    52. rain of lead
      55 | February 12, 2020 7:24 am

      morning y’all


    53. eaglesoars
      57 | February 12, 2020 8:12 am

      Sundance seems to have finally realized what I’ve been saying all along

      You can take that insufferably overused qualifier: “we’re not talking about the hard-working FBI field agents here..“, and stuff it. I’m exactly talking about forty transparently corrupt FBI field agents who, according to EVERYONE, participated in an investigation that was political nonsense from the beginning.

      Is someone actually going to try and tell me Forty FBI Agents didn’t know the Vast Russian Conspiracy was a bucket of nonsense from, um, at least day #2?..

      What does forty FBI agents working on this Russian conspiracy case for three years tell us about the operational integrity of the FBI as an investigative institution?

      https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/02/12/unfortunately-a-corrupt-group-of-politically-focused-doj-lawyers-isnt-the-only-issue/#more-183439

      …to the ground


    54. RIX
      58 | February 12, 2020 8:30 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      A lot of people will never see the FBI the same way again.
      The bureaucratic state is the Deep State. They view it that presidents come and go but they remain.
      That goofy Lt Col Vindman had a “policy” dispute. Say what?
      He swore the same oath that everybody in the military does and he understands the chain of command.
      At the top of the chain is the Commander in Chief. That would be Trump..
      If Vindman feels that strongly he should resigne his commission and become a CNN contributor.


    55. eaglesoars
      59 | February 12, 2020 8:44 am

      @ RIX:

      ok, tell me if you remember this. The Press Sec, Tony Snow, was gone and Dana Perino had taken over. I’ve forgotten what Bush admin this was. Anyway, someone in that office wrote an ‘expose’ tell-all type book, some one no one had ever heard of, like Vindman.

      IIRC, he scored exactly ONE interview -and promptly disappeared from the face of the earth. I don’t remember his name, his book, I wouldn’t know him on the street.

      There was no hero-worship by the media. Because they all knew if they tried that the Bushies would come down on them so hard their mothers wouldn’t know them. They wouldn’t be able to work in Appalachia.


    56. RIX
      60 | February 12, 2020 8:53 am

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/02/watch-aoc-and-her-white-boyfriend-offer-white-people-tips-on-fighting-racism/
      @ Gateway Pundit
      AOC and her boyfriend do a tutorial video on helping to combat racism. Apparently a lot of racists do not know that they are racist. Never mind, you need to straighten them out.
      AOC even gives a shout out to economist Milton Keynes. He may be a descendant of Abraham Washington.
      Incredibly the boyfriend is as weapons grade stupid as she is.
      You have got to watch this.


    57. RIX
      61 | February 12, 2020 8:55 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      I vaguely recall that.


    58. eaglesoars
      62 | February 12, 2020 8:57 am

      Elizabeth Warren is canceling ad schedules that had been booked in SC for later in February

      Current buy runs through 2/16; set to go dark after that

      https://twitter.com/MediumBuying/status/1227589382955323393


    59. RIX
      63 | February 12, 2020 9:04 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Elizabeth Warren is canceling ad schedules that had been booked in SC for later in February

      Current buy runs through 2/16; set to go dark after that

      https://twitter.com/MediumBuying/status/1227589382955323393

      Maybe she will have a new carrer doing pitches for Miller Lite. Her last beer video went so well.


    60. 64 | February 12, 2020 9:53 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      Did you see the tweet where she literally BRAGGED about taking $3 from a college student with only $6 left in her bank account. She may have deleted it from the blowback.

      Imagine if Trump had done this. Every single Democrat candidate would have appeared on CNN saying what a heartless bastard he was taking that $3 and he doesn’t give a s**t about the little guy like he says.


    61. rain of lead
      65 | February 12, 2020 10:56 am

      I know, it’s huffpo but still…

      https://www.huffpost.com/entry/siba-standard-poodle-westminster-dog-show_n_5e438465c5b61b84d34200d8

      I suspect Russian interference


    62. 66 | February 12, 2020 11:37 am

      rain of lead wrote:

      nah, this boy is gonna be just fine

      Trump suggests military should consider additional discipline for Vindman
      https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/482638-trump-suggests-military-should-consider-additional-discipline-for

      Asked specifically if the Pentagon should pursue further action against Vindman, Trump said it would be “up to the military.”

      “But if you look at what happened, they’re going to certainly, I would imagine, take a look at that,” he said.

      I’m thinking they have the goods on Vindman. Emails, phone records, etc. They should send him and the twin to Little Diomedes and let them gaze on Russia for the next 10 years from the guard shack.


    63. 67 | February 12, 2020 11:38 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Checkmate.

      That’s “3-D Checkmate.”


    64. 68 | February 12, 2020 11:42 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ RIX:

      ok, tell me if you remember this. The Press Sec, Tony Snow, was gone and Dana Perino had taken over. I’ve forgotten what Bush admin this was. Anyway, someone in that office wrote an ‘expose’ tell-all type book, some one no one had ever heard of, like Vindman.

      IIRC, he scored exactly ONE interview -and promptly disappeared from the face of the earth. I don’t remember his name, his book, I wouldn’t know him on the street.

      There was no hero-worship by the media. Because they all knew if they tried that the Bushies would come down on them so hard their mothers wouldn’t know them. They wouldn’t be able to work in Appalachia.

      Was that Scott McClellan? Dude’s book went straight to the bargain bin at Barnes & Noble if I recall correctly. Rush did a fantastic parody on him.


    65. 69 | February 12, 2020 11:52 am

      Klobuchar is doing surprisingly well. I looked at her campaign site, and she’s as batshit crazy as Sanders is.

      Buttigieg doesn’t seem to answer questions.


    66. eaglesoars
      70 | February 12, 2020 12:31 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      Was that Scott McClellan?

      I do believe you’re right!


    67. eaglesoars
      71 | February 12, 2020 12:37 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      Did you see the tweet where she literally BRAGGED about taking $3 from a college student with only $6 left in her bank account

      I didn’t see it but Chris Plante talked about it and Limbaugh is talking about it now.

      For one thing, why does anybody believe this story? I want to see that girl’s tweet, for one thing.


    68. coldwarrior
      72 | February 12, 2020 1:16 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      Hopefully Lucas didn’t do the electrics


    69. 73 | February 12, 2020 2:11 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Oh, I don’t doubt the story is BS. What I can’t figure out is how Lie-a-watha thought that it made her look GOOD.


    70. eaglesoars
      74 | February 12, 2020 2:18 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      What I can’t figure out is how Lie-a-watha thought that it made her look GOOD.

      I KNOW!! I mean – she’d be great in Hollywood. Total self-regard and zero self-awareness.

      Hey, guess what? I saw Randy Barnett on Levin’s show. So I got his book “Intro to Constitutional Law 100 Supreme Court Cases Everyone Should Know”

      Arrived today


    71. eaglesoars
      75 | February 12, 2020 2:30 pm

      I must skedaddle, but before I go, I’m gonna call it.

      Next target is Barr.

      The entire ‘flounce drama’ by the prosecutors yesterday was about Barr. Warren has called for him to be dis-barred and she’s not the first.

      Nobody expects that to actually happen. They merely want to hamstring people psychologically/politically so he can’t move.

      They’ll use every trick, calls for recusal, etc., but that’s the next game.

      ok, back to work, TA!


    72. 76 | February 12, 2020 3:25 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      These are Weissman wannabe’s. What the hell is Warren talking about? The DOJ thought the sentence was excessive. They’ve been doing this with the prosecutions that came out of the Mueller campaign – they tried to do the SAME thing to General Flynn. Agree to the proposed Sentencing Memorandum and then show up in Court wanting to shred it.

      NINE years is excessive for a process crime, and it is excessive for whatever perjury allegation they are making. It was excessive for Libby back in the day. The DOJ was going after a rogue prosecutor. Had they done that when Weissman was railroading Arthur Andersen in order to get himself a scalp after Enron, 84,000 people might still be employed today.

      They can flounce all they want. Roger Stone was arrested in such a manner to publicly humiliation. Here’s hoping Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page and Brennan are taken into custody in the same manner, with Fox News being tipped off. And Barr should seek 15 years. In front of a Trump-appointed judge. That one currently hearing Stone and Manafort (and what was the likelihood of that incompetent partisan hack getting BOTH cases considering the number of judges in that district?) and should be impeached and removed from the bench. I’m predicting she gets bitch-slapped by the appellate bench.


    73. 77 | February 12, 2020 4:26 pm

      Oh and Joe Biden’s family needs to throw a blanket over Grandpa and take him home – this is embarrassing.

      1. [Referring to minority voters and that 99% of Black/Hispanic voters haven’t cast ballots yet] “Our votes haven’t been counted.” Joe? You’re Rinso White. Also Obama WON Iowa.

      2. Including Obama in the list of candidates who lost in New Hampshire and went on to win against “the incumbent.” Obama didn’t run against an incumbent.

      He’s embarrassing.

      Oh, and Bernie is getting flack from the Unions (Casino workers) in Nevada. They know damn well that Medicare for all will kill health care.

      Waiting for someone to ask Bernie how a “basic human right” can require the labor of others.


    74. Aussie Infidel
      78 | February 12, 2020 5:09 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      Hopefully Lucas didn’t do the electrics

      HEH!

      I may be total rubbish but it’s British rubbish!

      🙂


    75. Possum
      79 | February 12, 2020 6:30 pm

      Just casually wondering if some people in here are deliberately trying to start a fight….

      After ten years psychiatric treatment, five of those as an in patient at Broadmoor Hospital, I have re-joined society and for the most part I am in control of my mental instability.

      However, if pushed too far then bad things may happen.

      This was my home for a while.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadmoor_Hospital

      Broadmoor Hospital is a high-security psychiatric hospital at Crowthorne in Berkshire, England. It is the oldest of the three high-security psychiatric hospitals in England,


    76. 80 | February 12, 2020 7:15 pm

      Anyone else remember Gabriel Malor from Ace of Spades.
      Dude has gone full NeverTrump and suffers from TDS.
      I blocked his ass on Twitter.


    77. Possum
      81 | February 12, 2020 7:16 pm

      @ Possum:
      The locked up in a maximum security hospital was supposed to be a joke.

      Truth is, they could not catch me!

      I evaded capture by coming to the USA


    78. 82 | February 12, 2020 7:24 pm

      Possum wrote:

      I evaded capture by coming to the USA

      If you came to San Francisco no one would have noticed.


    79. eaglesoars
      83 | February 12, 2020 7:34 pm

      @ The Barbarian:

      not from Ace (I find the format too hard to follow) but the name is familiar. How are they treating him over there?


    80. CynicalConservative
      84 | February 12, 2020 7:40 pm

      Did correspondence committee go poof?


    81. Possum
      85 | February 12, 2020 7:41 pm

      @ The Barbarian:
      You have a valid point. Escaped from the UK and tried to hide in Iowa. Lived there 16 years before they discovered who I really was. Currently hiding in Texas for the last 6 years.

      If I get busted here next stop Wyoming.Seriously…..


    82. 86 | February 12, 2020 7:47 pm

      @ CynicalConservative:
      Yeah, for some reason it’s gone. The original coder and “owner” of the site disappeared. When time came to renew, *poof* gone.


    83. eaglesoars
      87 | February 12, 2020 7:59 pm

      uh oh

      The jury in the Stone trial really was not vetted. At least one juror has social media posts re Trump that should have precluded her being selected

      I disagree w/this headline:

      Social Media Posts Prove the Judge Rigged the Roger Stone Prosecution

      because there’s no evidence the judge had anything to do with it, but no question it was a tainted juror

      https://www.cernovich.com/social-media-posts-prove-the-judge-rigged-the-roger-stone-prosecution/


    84. eaglesoars
      88 | February 12, 2020 8:01 pm

      This makes sense.

      Romney is running for the VP position on the Dem ticket, whoever the nominee is. According to ‘sources’

      That would be hilarious. A Commie with a vulture capitalist


    85. CynicalConservative
      89 | February 12, 2020 8:05 pm

      @ PaladinPhil:
      Well, that would explain it. Never really went there much after being refused/ignored entry, but would check once a quarter or so.


    86. eaglesoars
      90 | February 12, 2020 8:13 pm

      @ CynicalConservative:

      I wrote the very first post for that blog, which ‘Renee’ insisted I use another name for. “Michele’. I think they took it down after I got banned. For something I didn’t do.

      Iron Fist and Pink Freud were the only ones who stood up for me and told the truth. Some didn’t know the truth, so couldn’t say, the rest were just gutless.

      I honestly don’t remember the last time I looked at it. Years and years. My last impression is that it was boring.


    87. AZfederalist
      91 | February 12, 2020 8:34 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ AZfederalist:

      But the academic org has to sign off on it, I would think?

      That I don’t know, I’m not close enough to it to have a feel for that.


    88. CynicalConservative
      92 | February 12, 2020 8:43 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      This is the only place I post as infrequent as it is. Read lots.


    89. eaglesoars
      93 | February 12, 2020 8:56 pm

      @ CynicalConservative:

      I post here, insty and zip. that’s it. Every once in a while I’ll see something I feel like responding to someplace else, but that’s rare.


    90. eaglesoars
      94 | February 12, 2020 9:41 pm

      I never thought this would happen in my lifetime. I am beyond thrilled.

      Space Force gets $15.4 billion in 2021 budget request

      https://www.space.com/space-force-2021-budget-request.html

      I just hope I can hang on long enough to get my very own phaser.


    91. Aussie Infidel
      95 | February 12, 2020 9:49 pm

      RIX wrote:

      If Vindman feels that strongly he should resigne his commission and become a CNN contributor.

      Like so many others.

      Or if he is REALLY desperate he could try MSNBC!

      🙂


    92. Aussie Infidel
      96 | February 12, 2020 9:50 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      I never thought this would happen in my lifetime. I am beyond thrilled.

      Space Force gets $15.4 billion in 2021 budget request

      https://www.space.com/space-force-2021-budget-request.html

      I just hope I can hang on long enough to get my very own phaser.

      Piddling little Phaser be damned.

      I demand a dirty great Light Sabre!

      🙂


    93. eaglesoars
      97 | February 12, 2020 10:04 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      too big, too noticeable.

      ok, I’m off to bed. nite.


    94. eaglesoars
      98 | February 13, 2020 9:34 am

      good morning. Is everybody sleeping in?

      So, upthread somewhere, I posted that a juror in the Stone trial was so rabidly anti-Trump she never should have been seated.

      Chris Plante just reported that she was the FOREMAN. And that Judge Napolitano, no Trump fan he, is saying that’s grounds for a new trial.


    95. 99 | February 13, 2020 9:44 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      uh oh

      The jury in the Stone trial really was not vetted. At least one juror has social media posts re Trump that should have precluded her being selected

      I disagree w/this headline:

      Social Media Posts Prove the Judge Rigged the Roger Stone Prosecution

      because there’s no evidence the judge had anything to do with it, but no question it was a tainted juror

      https://www.cernovich.com/social-media-posts-prove-the-judge-rigged-the-roger-stone-prosecution/

      Actually, I believe there were also jurors in the Manafort trial (same judge) that had pretrial bias against Manafort and the judge was perfectly fine with them serving on the jury. I have no trouble believing she has no qualms with the facts emerging on this juror as well. Any other judge I know (Sam Otero in the Central District comes to mind) would be so effing outraged that he’d haul that juror in front of him and tell them to bring a toothbrush.

      Once the dust has settled, there needs to be an inquiry on this judge for judicial misconduct. And Roger Stone has excellent grounds for appeal. He DID NOT receive a fair trial.


    96. 100 | February 13, 2020 9:48 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      Dianna was the one who went to them and told them to let me in. As I had disappeared from LGF many didn’t know why (my firm was involved in the Dan Rather case and I was advised by the ethics officer that posting at LGF was not a good idea, since my personal email address at the time and my handle were the same.


    97. 101 | February 13, 2020 9:48 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      For me it’s here, Zip and Twitchy.


    98. 102 | February 13, 2020 9:53 am

      Can those who followed this whole Ukraine story more than I answer a question? Was Lt. Col. Teletubby actually ON the phone call? Because they kept saying all the Democrat witnesses were “hearsay” and for some reason I thought Teletubby was actually on the call. I know he gave the President HIS ideas for talking points and Trump ignored them. I also know he attempted to get in and look at/edit the phone call’s transcript, but was refused access (probably wanted to add or subtract a word here or there – maybe change “do US a favor” to “do ME a favor”.

      So I am somewhat confused that Vindman was on the call. And maybe that’s why he was denied access.


    99. eaglesoars
      103 | February 13, 2020 10:35 am

      @ The Barbarian:

      Vindman was not on the call


    100. eaglesoars
      104 | February 13, 2020 10:39 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ The Barbarian:

      Vindman was not on the call

      no no, he WAS on the call.


    101. eaglesoars
    102. 106 | February 13, 2020 10:51 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      Okay, so Vindman DID have first-hand knowledge, which is confusing, as they keep saying all the witnesses were secondhand. I DO think, however, that Vindman tried to alter the transcript so that it would comport with the version of the call that HE was peddling, i.e., that the President requested that the Bidens be investigated. I find this disingenuous for two reasons – first of all, at the time the transcript was prepared, no one had any inkling that this slimeball would be ILLEGALLY leaking information to anyone or second, that anyone would ever even care about the phone call.


    103. eaglesoars
      107 | February 13, 2020 11:33 am

      @ The Barbarian:

      bbl, somebody hacked my credit card


    104. eaglesoars
      108 | February 13, 2020 12:51 pm

      Somebody went wild trying to buy about $1000 of Starbucks gift cards. sheesh. I still have work to do but wanted to post this for your humor fix

      AOC doing a television ad for Ru Paul. Seriously, no joke

      https://twitter.com/RuPaulsDragRace/status/1228005730986418176


    105. eaglesoars
      109 | February 13, 2020 1:12 pm

      Barbarian, if you get a chance, look at this

      THE GOV’T HAD THE PASSWORDS

      https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/02/man-who-refused-to-decrypt-hard-drives-is-free-after-four-years-in-jail/

      I don’t care what the 3rd circuit said, this had to have been a violation of the 5th


    106. 110 | February 13, 2020 2:54 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Without doubt.

      From the Daily Caller re Tomeka Hart, the Roger Stone juror.

      https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/13/roger-stone-jury-selection/

      She needs to be prosecuted for perjury. Give her nine years.


    107. 111 | February 13, 2020 2:58 pm

      My PC refused to boot up Monday night last week. It was only today I could send an e-mail from my account.


    108. eaglesoars
      112 | February 13, 2020 3:31 pm

      @ The Barbarian:

      Oh, but there’s MORE. Our Miss Tomeka is a lawyer. Yep.

      I heard that from Mark Steyn – then I found this. Seems she’s out of Memphis and went to law school there

      https://twitter.com/hartformemphis/status/1184661113394339841


    109. eaglesoars
      113 | February 13, 2020 3:32 pm

      And Shem has collected what appears to be her entire TL. She’s a prize

      https://twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1227786964046315520

      back to work


    110. 114 | February 13, 2020 4:21 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      She actually should have resisted the urge to “defend” the four prosecutors and call attention to herself. There was a juror questionnaire and it appears she lied like hell all through voir dire.

      Not only that, I would like to question the other jurors and see if she did everything she could to make sure she was the foreperson. Whenever I serve on a jury, the first thing I do is tell my fellow jurors that I will not be the foreperson (there is a real danger that specialized knowledge of the law and civil procedure creates a VERY slippery slope).

      I think a legal “civilian” with a good sense of judicial procedure, such as yourself, is the gold standard for a foreperson.

      She can be disbarred for this, by the way, is she still holds an active license.


    111. eaglesoars
      115 | February 13, 2020 4:29 pm

      uh oh. It’s the WSJ so there’s some weight to this one

      Attorney General Says Tweets ‘Make it Impossible for Me to Do My Job’

      https://www.wsj.com/articles/attorney-general-says-tweets-make-it-impossible-for-me-to-do-my-job-11581628588?mod=e2tw


    112. eaglesoars
      116 | February 13, 2020 4:41 pm

      Gateway Pundit has more on the Stone jury. One juror was worse than Tomeka Hart. Obama OMB person, married to a lawyer in the DOJ area that did the Russia hoax. The judge refused to strike any of them

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/02/how-is-this-fair-roger-stone-jurors-included-a-former-doj-hack-linked-to-russia-hoax-a-former-democrat-candidate-and-a-huge-beto-donor/


    113. eaglesoars
      117 | February 13, 2020 5:10 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      It’s the WSJ so there’s some weight to this one

      and they can fuck right off. Biased headline

      ““The public statements & tweets made about DOJ…make it impossible for me to do my job… I’m not going to be bullied or influenced by anybody…whether it’s Congress, newspaper editorial boards, or the president… I’m going to do what I think is right.”

      twitchy has the whole thing

      https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/02/13/frustrated-ag-bill-barr-candidly-explains-what-makes-it-impossible-for-me-to-do-my-job-video/


    114. eaglesoars
      118 | February 13, 2020 6:06 pm

      Chuck Yeager is 97 yrs old today


    115. 119 | February 13, 2020 6:07 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Bingo – he’s talking about EVERYONE. But all the left and MSM heard was “President”.


    116. eaglesoars
      120 | February 13, 2020 6:16 pm

      Alabama state rep Rolanda Hollis has introduced a bill mandating that all men have a vasectomy after 50 or the 3rd child.

      https://yellowhammernews.com/three-members-of-auburn-board-of-trustees-confirmed-to-another-seven-year-term/

      Rep Hollis was arrested last year for domestic violence in a FLORIDA hotel. This photo is not so flattering

      https://abc3340.com/news/local/birmingham-state-representative-arrested-for-domestic-violence-at-florida-motel


    117. RIX
      121 | February 13, 2020 6:43 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Where do they find these lunatics?


    118. Deplorable Bumr50
      122 | February 13, 2020 7:17 pm

      @ RIX:

      Yale?


    119. eaglesoars
      123 | February 13, 2020 7:37 pm

      @ RIX:

      Well, hotels in Florida, for one………..


    120. darkwords
      124 | February 13, 2020 7:41 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      FOUR!

      DOJ prosecutor Michael Marando has withdrawn as counsel for the government.

      Tom Fitton is unhappy, thinking this makes Barr look bad. That’s their strategy, won’t work. Buck up Fitton.

      IMO this is cleaning up the swamp. CNN today reports Barr is upset with Presidential tweets about the DoJ. I’m not.


    121. darkwords
      125 | February 13, 2020 7:48 pm

      @ The Barbarian:
      Bloomberg is a running an ad on CNN today that references support from Obama. I haven’t seen Obama step up for his VP.

      Watching CNN and Fox side by side at the gym. Surprisingly Fox seems like it is in commercial break 5 times longer than CNN. It was like watching commercials when watching fox with a few breaks for commentary.


    122. eaglesoars
      126 | February 13, 2020 7:51 pm

      darkwords wrote:

      CNN today reports Barr is upset with Presidential tweets about the DoJ. I’m not.

      I think it’s for show and I’ll tell you why. For the past 2 days, Barr has been the target of the ‘cancel culture’ of Trump’s enemies. This is a way for him to distance himself from the entire crowd. Now all Trump’s enemies love Barr because Barr won’t be intimidated by Trump.

      Do you really think that media gossip makes it impossible for Barr to do his job? If he really felt that way, he’d resign.


    123. eaglesoars
      127 | February 13, 2020 8:04 pm

      Tucker Carlson is eviscerating Tomika Hart. Nothing like getting doxxed on national television during prime time.


    124. Aussie Infidel
      128 | February 14, 2020 12:14 am

      What Richard Higgens actually said inside the walls of the NSC that got him fired by Gen. McMaster before he too was felled.

      Interesting

      https://drrichswier.com/2017/08/12/read-the-full-memo-on-globalism-and-islamic-infiltration-by-former-nsc-staffer-rich-higgins/


    125. 129 | February 14, 2020 12:55 am

      Possum wrote:

      @ Possum:
      The locked up in a maximum security hospital was supposed to be a joke.

      Truth is, they could not catch me!

      I evaded capture by coming to the USA

      https://youtu.be/yrDmjXed6A0


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