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Ground Zero victory mosque protest

by Kafir ( 181 Comments › )
Filed under Blogmocracy, Guest Post, Patriotism at August 23rd, 2010 - 8:00 pm

Blogmcracy in Action!
Guest post by: Bluebird!


Hey Guys!

Here are some photos from the rally in NYC yesterday morning, if you’re interested:

I was a little worried when I got up because the the weather was looking kinda bad – rainy and really hot, but we had an excellent turnout! The first photo is of the puny counter-protest. They were such an anemic looking bunch, I didn’t even try to get a closer look. There were a few scattered moonbats on the periphery of our rally, but they were pretty bland and they were keeping their mouths shut and the police did an excellent job of keeping them out of our hair. Our crowd was GREAT!! Lot’s of firemen and construction workers here this time and they seemed like they’ve just about had enough of this mosque nonsense.This rally didn’t feel as ‘festive’ as some I’ve attended – it was in fact, quite appropriately, a little grim. Everybody was perfectly aware of what this victory mosque signifies and they didn’t try to soften their anger with humorous signs. It was awesome! I could really feel a growing momentum. We may be outnumbered up here, but were scrappy. Don’t count us out just yet! 🙂

All the best,
Bluebird

The week from hell

by Mojambo ( 91 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Blogmocracy, Dhimmitude, Guest Post, Politics at August 22nd, 2010 - 5:30 pm

I always cringe when people like Bill O’Reilly constantly tout the “Obama is a smart guy” line. No he is not smart, he is a bit too clever for his own good and I have noticed that no matter what job he holds, he always seems to be looking to his next job. Maybe he can be The Leader of the One World Government in 2016.  As far as this Mosque thing goes, I think it has reawakened the passions on the arrogant entitlement nature of Islam that may have been laying dormant since the Iraq war went bad.

by Clarice Feldman

The week began for Obama with him basking in the love of his invited guests at a White House Iftar dinner and ended with his party in disarray, his political fortunes plunging even further, and his sixth (Michelle’s seventh) lavish vacation of the season imperiled by floating poop.

Iftar
Celebrating Iftar at the White House, the president, as is his wont, made ridiculous panders to the audience, suggesting Islam had contributed much to this country since its creation and  suggesting by both word and tone that he supported the building of the Cordoba House mosque near the ruins of the World Trade Center.

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a. Cordoba House, aka Park-51
There is something peculiar about the way Democrats think we ought to memorialize the worst attack on American soil, an attack by nineteen Moslems, supported by their fellow religionists and certainly some Moslem countries. (Gallup’s latest survey indicates that 7% of the Moslem world hates us — that’s 80 million people.) While we pay the high costs for this attack, both in rebuilding the ruins and compensating those who suffered it, but as well in daily inconveniences in public buildings, transport, and higher military defense costs, so many on the left — which, face it, is now synonymous with the Democratic Party — think we ought to use these sacred spots to reach out and touch our enemies, gestures which in those places are seen only as weakness.

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(b) The Storm that followed
The double lutz triple mosque spin by Obama had hardly been completed when the politicians of all stripes and voters weighed in, and the fancy footwork was not getting the kind of score the president apparently thought it would. Instead, it started a battle which continues to erode his support his party’s. (Some nutters in the Moslem world abroad have suggested the whole thing is really a Zionist plot, but I’m beginning to think Obama himself is a Republican plant designed to bring the mainstream media hacks, who promoted him into office and continue to cover his behind, and his own party into such ignominy that they may never recover.)

The issue to anyone who is an adult is not the legal right to build a mosque in that part of the city, nor the right to freedom of religion; it is the propriety of building a thirteen-story mosque within the very area hit with the debris of the attack.

People who have no problem attacking Israelis for building apartments on their own land in Jerusalem, opposing energy companies for surface mining and constructing generating facilities, and denying even the right to smoke in one’s one home and car are suddenly championing private property rights. People who would require that Catholic doctors and hospitals perform abortions, that kosher butchering be made illegal, and that Mormons be boycotted for opposing gay marriage are now championing religious freedom. You  really can’t make up this stuff.

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(c ) Nostalgia for George Bush
Maureen Dowd begged George Bush to weigh in on the matter and save Obama’s bacon…er…hide. So did Eugene Robinson, and Peter Beinart wrote that he was feeling nostalgic for the former president.

So were the residents of Martha’s Vineyard (Obama vacation spot) where Bush (“Miss Me Yet?”) T-shirts were outselling pro-Obama ones.

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And while it wasn’t likely nostalgia for Bush, Obama managed to wee-wee up all of Los Angeles with security blockades as he attended a fundraiser for Barabara Boxer in Hancock Park, a fundraiser where two of the sponsors, Barbara Streisand and Jeffrey Katzensberg, were no-shows.

When you’ve lost Barbra and Jeff…

By week’s end, the president, his approval ratings scraping bottom, made it to Martha’s Vineyard in time to learn that Tisbury Great Pond, which fronts on the expensive rental vacation estate they are staying at, is contaminated with coliform fecal  bacteria.

It was a week where everything around Obama turned to merde.

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Read the rest here: Looking for love in all the wrong places


Addendum by Huckfunn


Blogmocracy in Action!
Guest post by: Huckfunn!


AP shills for Barrak Hussein Obama

The Associated Press doesn’t want its readers to be confused about the proposed “Ground Zero Mosque”. Therefore, AP Deputy Managing Commissar for Standards and Production, Tom Kent, issued a directive that the term “Ground Zero Mosque” should be avoided in future articles and the following terms be used in lieu thereof:

_ mosque 2 blocks from WTC site
_ Muslim (or Islamic) center near WTC site
_ mosque near ground zero
_ mosque near WTC site

Additionally, the Abominable Press reminds its minions to toe the line as to President Obama’s position on the Non-Ground Zero Mosque:

Here is a succinct summary of President Obama’s position:
Obama has said he believes Muslims have the right to build an Islamic center in New York as a matter of religious freedom, though he’s also said he won’t take a position on whether they should actually build it.

Succinct? Are you kidding? Does anyone really believe that O-hole’s position on the Anything-Else-But-Ground-Zero Mosque is succinct? By the way; is he Hindu or Lutheran? He’s so “nuanced”, ya know.

Read the whole sorry thing here.

– Huckfunn

The Truth about about Cordoba

by Phantom Ace ( 232 Comments › )
Filed under Blogmocracy, Guest Post, Islamic Invasion, Islamic Supremacism, Islamic Terrorism, Spain at August 9th, 2010 - 6:01 pm

Blogmocracy in Action

Guest Poster: Guggi


Guggi debunks the lie about how Cordoba was a center of tolerance.

This sentence of Gingrich caught his special attention:

“the capital of Muslim conquerors who symbolized their victory over Christian Spaniards by transforming a church there into the world’s third-largest mosque complex.”

He answers:

Notice how carefully he’s phrased his claim to give the impression that during the medieval conquest of Spain the Muslims charged into Cordoba and declared it the capital of a new Muslim empire, and in order to add insult to injury seized control of a Christian church and built the biggest mosque they could, right there in front of the Christians they’d just conquered, a big Muslim middle finger in the heart of medieval Christendom. Essentially, they’ve done it before, they’ll do it again, right there at Ground Zero, if all good Christians don’t band together to stop them.

The problem is, in order to give that impression of immediacy, Newt elides three hundred years of Christian and Muslim history. Three hundred years. The Muslims conquered Cordoba in 712. The Christian church that was later transformed into the Great Mosque of Cordoba apparently** continued hosting Christian worship for at least a generation after that. Work on the Mosque didn’t actually begin until seventy-odd years later in 784, and the mosque only became “the world’s third-largest” late in the tenth century, after a series of expansions by much later rulers, probably around 987 or so.

I) Nowhere does Gingrich say that the Mosque was the third largest from the very beginning. As with a lot of buildings the Mosque expanded over the centuries, since more and more Christians converted to Islam.

II) It is correct that in the first decades both (Muslims and Christians) used the former church of St. Vincent. With the Muslim forces Arab Christians came to Cordoba from North Africa as well as converts of mixed Christian/Muslim marriages. The use of both Religions of the church created a new social class: Mozarabs. But the use for Christians was limited, they were not allowed to sing their hymns or to ring the church bells.

III) The original invaders, Arabs and Berbers, were nomads. Their goal was to plunder not to build mosques or anything else (the word Arab means nomad). They used what was already there and only later they became settled.

He goes on:

Then there’s the matter of the two odd verbs in Newt’s summation of Cordoba’s history: “transformed” and “symbolized”. Surely, a mosque as great as The Great Mosque of Cordoba has symbolized a lot of things to a lot of people over the years. But Muslim historians writing about the Great Mosque don’t point to it as a symbol of Muslim triumph over Christians; rather, they treat it primarily as a symbol of Muslim victory over other Muslims.

I couldn’t find a source for this statement but I can quote another one:

When the victor returned to Cordoba the Moslems were greeted with the sight of a host of Christian captives carrying the bells of Santiago and the doors of the Cathedral on their shoulders through the streets. These finely wrought doors were placed in the Mosque, and the bells seem to have been turned into lampholders. The display of these trophies and the large number of Christian prisoners, who were put to work on the extensions being made to the Mosque, convinced the Moslems that the final rout of the enemies of Islam had taken place. (Enrique Sordo, Moorish Spain: Cordoba, Seville, Granada (London: Elek Books, 1963), p. 51)

Does this look like a symbol of Muslim victory over other Muslims ?

I don’t have the time to point to other questionable claims but this one is interesting:

This is, incidentally, probably why the Great Mosque–unlike almost every other Mosque in the Muslim world–is built facing south. Usually, Mosques are built facing Mecca, as Muslims are meant to pray towards the holy city. But the Great Mosque is oriented as if it were actually built in Damascus, the original capital of the Umayyads and the city from which abd-ar-Ramman had had to flee in exile when it was conquered by the Abbasids. Damascus is north of Mecca, while Cordoba is much further west. By pointing his Mosque south, Abd-ar-Ramman I was telling his Muslim rivals, “This exile to Iberia is a temporary thing; you may hold Damascus for now, but in the eyes of our god, my family still controls it.”

Not the Mosques are built facing Mecca but the “mihrab” and therefore a more reasonable explanation would be:

The Mosque of Abd al-Rahman I had eleven naves running from north to south, and because the walls of the Christian basilica were used the mihrab was set facing south and not on the azimuth of Mecca. In the years that followed the building underwent several alterations and extensions. Under Abd al-Rahman II the wall at the southern end was built in order to lengthen the naves; this involved the transfer of the mihrab to the end of the new wall. The present façade was erected in the reign of Abd al-Rahman III along the north side, with pillars and horse-shoe arches. This façade had become necessary to strengthen the northern end, designed only for the old structure, which threatened to collapse because the earlier alterations had lengthened the naves excessively and these were open to the courtyard at this point. (p. 41)

Btw.: the Great Umyyad Mosque in Damascus is also built on the structures of a church. And there too at the very beginning Christians were allowed to pray there. To point to the resemblance of the two Mosques doesn’t say anything about the dominance of Islam over Christendom. On the contrary: it only shows that the al-Walid’s Mosque in Damascus set the standards from Cairo to Cordoba and from Isfahan to Ghazna. (Finbarr Barry Flood, The Great Mosque of Damascus: Studies on the Makings of an Umayyad Visual Culture, Brill 2001, 8)

Beside all this points it is without question that the Mosque of Cordoba had become the principal Mosque of the caliphate. How tasteless and insensitive has one to be to name an Islamic Center with a huge Mosque in visual range of Ground Zero after the principal Mosque of the Western caliphate when the terrorists aim is nothing less than the establishment of a new caliphate ?

At least there is a footnote which is a real jaw dropper:

***If your eyes glaze over at the sea of Abds, Umayyads, and Abbasids, let me put it another way. If it’s legitimate for Newt Gingrich to say the Great Mosque of Cordoba was built by Muslim Conquerors in their capital city wishing to symbolize their victory over the Christians, then it’d be just as legitimate to describe the Statue of Liberty as being built by English conquerors in their capital of New York to symbolize their victory over the Dutch.

This is a student of history ? Really ? Sorry me, but this is sick. The Statue of Liberty was a present from the French people nearly hundred years after the War of Independence when the English masters were kicked out of America. At the time the Statue of Liberty was placed the USA had already become a melting pot of all ethnic groups of the world.


Voice of the Resistance!

by Kafir ( 132 Comments › )
Filed under Blogmocracy, Media, Multiculturalism, Political Correctness at August 5th, 2010 - 9:00 pm

Tonight we will have a special guest call in ~ Shelomo Alfassá. A snippet from his bio page:

Shelomo Alfassá oversees Special Projects for a national Jewish organization based at the Center for Jewish History in New York City. He specializes in the history of Jews from both Iberia (Spain and Portugal) and the Ottoman Empire (the former Turkish empire including Ottoman Palestine, etc.). From 2006-2009 he was U.S. Director of Justice for Jews from Arab Countries (JJAC) where he successfully helped develop H.Res.185, an historic resolution recognizing rights of Jews displaced from Arab countries which was unanimously approved by the U.S. Congress on April 1, 2008.

Mr. Alfassá is the founder and former Executive Director of the International Sephardic Leadership Council and the editor of the award winning International Sephardic Journal. Well known as an international advocate for Sephardic Jewry, Mr. Alfassá served as former Director of Research and Development for Sephardic House in New York City and for four years he served as a vice-president of the Foundation for the Advancement of Sephardic Studies and Culture. He was a staff consultant to both the Sephardic Educational Center and the Shehebar Sephardic Center (Midrash Sefaradi) in Jerusalem.

In 2005, he successfully worked with the U.S. Congress to bring about greater representation for Sephardic victims of the Holocaust (specifically Jews from Arab countries) at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum (USHMM). In 2003, Mr. Alfassá traveled to Poland representing Sephardic Jews in the United States as part of Judéo-Espagnol A Auschwitz, a successful multi-national campaign that sought recognition for Sephardic Holocaust victims that perished at Auschwitz.

Mr. Alfassá’s articles and papers on Jewish history and politics have appeared in numerous media outlets; his books include Ethnic Sephardic Jews in the Medical Literature; Reference Guide to the Nazis and Arabs During the Holocaust; A Window Into Old Jerusalem; History, Politics & Loss; The Palm Tree of Deborah and The Sephardic Anousim. Mr. Alfassá’s family is from the Ottoman island of Rhodes and Ottoman Edirne, Turkey. He has lived in New York, Florida, California, Colorado and Jerusalem.


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