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The Social Security Kerfuffle: It Is Not A Ponzi Scheme, It Is Far Worse Than That.

by Flyovercountry ( 29 Comments › )
Filed under Economy, History, Politics, Progressives, Socialism at September 14th, 2011 - 11:30 am

Much hay has been made over the third rail of political discourse recently. Presidential Candidate Rick Perry has had an unfortunate bout of honesty, which has led him to notice that the Social Security System more closely resembles a Ponzi Scheme than anything else. But this analysis is also wrong. While Perry’s opponents deftly admit that there are problems with this system, their supposition that it can be fixed by applying several small tweaks is a function of dishonest political pandering, and not based on any actual reality. Perry is wrong, not for sounding the alarm, but because he did not realize that Social Security is far worse than a Ponzi Scheme. At least in a Ponzi Scheme, old investors are paid off by new investors. In Social Security, old investors are paid off by borrowing funds secured by the deposits of the new investors, which deposits are then subsequently spent on some other form of governmental generosity.

Social Security consists of two separate parts, neither of which would ever be enacted alone. These two horrible components have been repackaged to look as if they are something that they are not. The first part of Social Security is a regressive payroll tax. People who earn lower wages must pay a higher percentage of their wages into the system than those who have higher incomes. America’s top wage earners reach a cap, whereby after they reach approximately $146,000 per year in income, they no longer need to pay into the tax. The net result of course is that the poor are indeed taxed more heavily than the rich. Is there anybody in America who would knowingly support this system. It of course has been repackaged into the realm of contributions. The second part of Social Security is a wealth redistribution scheme that transfers wealth not based on actual need, nor does it bear much resemblance to the amount of supposed contributions made, but instead is based on what industry someone has worked in. This of course has been sold to us in the form of an insurance safety net.

Either of these two halves, exposed to sunlight would have been laughed out of existence. Somehow though, people believe we need these programs to prevent the starvation of grandmas across the country. Social Security is a bankrupted bad welfare program coupled with a regressive taxation system. Calling it a Ponzi Scheme is an insult to Ponzi Schemes. Rick Perry is right to be blasting this program. It is a bad program from top to bottom and it does not need to be fixed, it needs to be destroyed and its evil ended. Welfare to seniors based on need would be far more efficient, and far better for our society. couple this with the progressive taxation system we already have in place, and that would work better than this sick joke of a lie.

Cross Posted at Musings of a Mad Conservative.

Rick Perry, on Social Security

by Iron Fist ( 3 Comments › )
Filed under Headlines at September 12th, 2011 - 8:00 am

Rick Perry has taken a lot of criticism for his stance on Social Security, but he is based in reality. Here is a piece in USA Today that is really good:

These are the hard facts: Social Security’s unfunded liability is calculated in the trillions of dollars. Last year, annual Social Security outlays exceeded annual revenues for the first time since 1983. The Congressional Budget Office projects that outlays will be roughly 5% greater than revenues over the next five years, worsening as more and more Baby Boomers retire.

By 2037, retirees will only get roughly 76 cents back for every dollar that is put into Social Security unless reforms are implemented. Imagine how long a traditional retirement or investment plan could survive if it projected investors would lose 24% of their money?

I am going to be honest with the American people. Our elected leaders must have the strength to speak frankly about entitlement reform if we are to right our nation’s financial course and get the USA working again.

Rick Perry in his own words. The editors of USA Today, of course, disagree with him, but at least they are giving him the venue to be heard.

Obama threatens to withhold Social Security Checks

by Phantom Ace ( 5 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Democratic Party, Economy, Fascism, Headlines, Liberal Fascism, Republican Party at July 12th, 2011 - 2:34 pm

In a tactic typical of 3rd World Liberation Demagogues, Obama is now using blackmail over the debt ceiling debate. He is now threatening to withhold Social Security checks, if the GOP doesn’t agree to tax increases.  This is aimed to create fear and demonize the Repuiblicans.

President Obama on Tuesday said he cannot guarantee that retirees will receive their Social Security checks August 3 if Democrats and Republicans in Washington do not reach an agreement on reducing the deficit in the coming weeks.

“I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven’t resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it,” Mr. Obama said in an interview with CBS Evening News anchor Scott Pelley, according to excerpts released by CBS News.

Typical 3rd World tactic.

(Hat Tip: Nevergiveup)

Let’s Talk About Privatizing Social Security

by Kafir ( 183 Comments › )
Filed under Blogmocracy, Guest Post, Politics at November 18th, 2010 - 6:30 pm

Blogmocracy in Action!
Guest post by: MacDuff!



From its inception, Social Security has been nothing more than a pyramid scheme that does no more than transfer funds from one generation to the next. It does not create wealth or encourage savings or responsibility; it places retired people on nothing more than another mismanaged government program. At least 12.4% of the wages of every American is being funneled into the massive government bureaucracy that sinks deeper by the day.

This program doesn’t give people “security” at all; it puts all of us on welfare.

Imagine if that money were actually yours, and was being invested in a personal IRA, of sorts. Contrary to what those who wish to keep Social Security as a government program say, financial markets have risen steadily over the long-term. Yes, there are peaks and valleys but when these markets are measured in decades; they are a remarkably safe and profitable repository.

I’ve done some rudimentary calculations on a spreadsheet concerning what could be achieved if the money that is currently being shoveled into the system were actually invested as an IRA and benefitted from compounding.

First, Social Security takes 12.4% of your earnings (6.2% from you and 6.2% from your employer). Let’s raise that to 13% (6.5% from you and 6.5% from your employer). This represents a modest 0.3% increase that, I believe, would be well worth it.

Now, let’s start with a 21 year-old individual, beginning his working career at a somewhat low-paying job that pays $25,000 per year, with 6.5% of that going to his/her account and his her/her employer contributing the other 6.5%, for a total of 13% per year.

To make this conservative, suppose this individual stayed at this low-paying job and received an average 1% increase per year (beginning at $25,000 and ending up 45 years later at $38,733). I think that one would agree that this is close to a worst case scenario for most.

Suppose this money were invested in an account that netted an average 6% per year (for the purposes of simple spreadsheet analysis, I added each year’s amount to the cumulative amount and multiplied it by “1.06”). Actually, this is a fairly conservative expectation for long-term investments.

At the end of 45 years of work, this individual has $840,566 on which to retire.

Then suppose that this individual, at 65, proceeds to retire. He/she is restricted to a payment of 80% of their last year’s income (in the case of this individual, they made $38,733, so their first year’s retirement income would be $30,986). That said, each year this individual would receive a 3.5% increase in their annual retirement income to accommodate for inflation. The balance in the account, of course, continues to grow at a rate of 6% per year, after the payment is made.

This individual lives a long life and dies at the ripe old age of 100. That year, he/she has an annual retirement income of $99,803 (it’s been going up 3.5% per year), he/she has been paid a total of $2,065,984 over the course of their 35 years of retirement, and bequeaths $140,833 (the balance of the account) to a designated survivor.

Yes, I made a lot of assumptions and these calculations were done on a spreadsheet. In addition, it does not consider how disability would be handled or any of the other various functions of Social Security. One must also consider how we transition from the current “transfer payment” system we currently have to one that actually creates wealth and financial security.

All of that said, this is designed to begin the conversation, and it’s a conversation that’s desperately needed.

-MacDuff

(cross posted at: The Week’s Review)