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Swiss Reject Gun Contol

by Phantom Ace ( 221 Comments › )
Filed under Europe, Leftist-Islamic Alliance, Progressives, Tranzis, World at February 15th, 2011 - 8:30 am

The Swiss have dealt a massive blow to the Progressive-Islamic Axis. 56% of Swiss voters rejected the gun ban initiative. The Pro-Gun rights group succeeded in explaining to the Swiss that only criminals will have the guns and not law abiding citizens.

Another unspoken reason for the defeat is the Islamic threat to Europe. Why do Jihadist run wild in the streets of France, Belgium, Hollands and the UK? The reason is those nations have gun bans and the citizens are disarmed. In the back of the minds of many Swiss, they see the Islamic colonialists moving into their cities. So far they haven’t caused major problems. The reason for this is because the Swiss are armed and would put them in their place.

Voters have thrown out a controversial initiative on restricting access to firearms in a nationwide ballot on Sunday.

Final results showed just over 56 per cent of votes had been cast against the initiative which sought to ban army-issue guns from the home.

A majority of cantons voted against the initiative. Support came from several, mainly urban regions including Geneva, Basel and Zurich. Opposition was strongest in rural areas in eastern and central Switzerland as well as in the southern Italian-speaking canton of Ticino.

The result is a blow for supporters – a broad coalition of NGOs, trade unions, churches, pacifists and centre-left parties.

Read the Rest: Swiss voters reject anti-gun initiative

I find it very interesting that the vote result in Switzerland mirrored an American election. The more traditional and rural areas voted to keep their gun rights, while the urban areas voted for the restrictions.  There was an ethnic component to this vote as well.

As we see here the eastern and central Cantons that voted against this measure are German speaking. The western cantons which voted for gun restrictions are French speaking. Clearly there is a cultural divide over this issue.

The Progressive-Islamic alliance will now have to contend with an armed and independent Swiss people. I salute the Swiss in rejecting this measure and keeping their sovereignty. A well armed Switzerland keeps the Islamic colonialists at bay.

The Swiss Vote on Gun Control

by coldwarrior ( 156 Comments › )
Filed under Politics, Second Amendment, Weapons at February 12th, 2011 - 1:00 pm

I am sorry about this, ladies of Blogmocracy. It appears that your sisters in Switzerland are driving an initiative to disarm the Swiss public. the Swiss have a proud history of arms, independence, and don’t get invaded because of two things, the mountains and the fact that military weapons are at hand in most houses and the male residents are trained to use them. The males are required to be trained at the age of 18.

The rest of Europe has disarmed themselves and have been PC’ed to death and been made ready for the take over by the muzz minority, are the Swiss next? A populace without guns is a slave population. This is step one to disarm the population of Switzerland, we know that the left wont stop on this initiative. We have seen this play before, in England and Australia. Act One begins on Sunday with claims that this law will prevent suicides, stop domestic violence, make happier children, and make the laundry whiter and brighter .

“This poster against an initiative to round up military-issue guns in Switzerland reads: ‘A weapons monopoly for criminals? No.’ But increased gun control is favored by a slight majority of the Swiss.”

And women may tip the election. Recent polls suggest that a narrow majority support the initiative — 52 percent, according to a January poll by the gfs.bern institute — but the discrepancy between men and women is stark.

According to Claude Longchamp, who heads gfs.bern, there’s a 24 percentage point difference between male and female voters, which represents the widest gender-based difference his institute has seen in 10 years of research.

“Many women believe that it is unnecessary to keep a firearm at home nowadays,” he told the website swissinfo.ch, “whereas men typically fear for cherished Swiss traditions, and therefore tend to oppose the initiative.”

The real purpose of this initiative is to weaken the militia army and withdraw the state’s confidence in its citizens,” said Markus Müller, spokesman for a group of Swiss military officers called ASMZ, according to AP. “Only a disarmed people can be oppressed.”

Switzerland is an exception to many clichés about Europe, but gun control is one of the most unexpected. In stark contrast to the neighboring European Union, and in spite of the country’s placid image of cow pastures, Alpine landscapes and official neutrality in war, every third Swiss household owns a gun.

That may, however, change on Sunday, when Swiss voters decide on a measure to end a tradition of sending military-issue rifles home with reserve soldiers. Most Swiss men are reservists because Switzerland has a mandatory draft and only a small standing army. Sunday’s “weapons initiative” is aimed at rounding up those weapons and storing them in public arsenals. The idea is that the weapons can be retrieved in case of war, but not used for impulsive domestic violence.

The measure, surprisingly, may pass. The country’s stout tradition of gun ownership has been rattled by a persistently high suicide rate and a number of mass murders, including a 2001 incident involving a commercial version of the Swiss army’s SG 550 assault rifle. Doctors and women’s groups have also argued that guns in the closet lead to more bloody accidents and lethal disputes at home.

“If you make firearms less accessible, there will be fewer suicides. It’s that simple,” Elsa Kurz, from the Geneva-based group Stop Suicide, told the Associated Press. Switzerland has the highest rate of suicide by firearm of any European nation — about 26 percent, compared to 2.8 percent in the UK and about 1 percent in Germany.

Only a disarmed population can be oppressed, indeed.

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Background:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,744837,00.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/11/world/europe/11iht-swiss11.html?_r=1&amp

Silence Is Golden

by Iron Fist ( 111 Comments › )
Filed under Politics, Second Amendment at February 7th, 2011 - 11:30 am

As the old adage says, sometimes it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool that to open your mouth and remove all doubt. The Obama Administration gives us many examples of why this is true, but there is one issue that Obama has seemingly learned the wisdom of this one: gun control. When he was elected with large, seemingly unstoppable majorities in both houses of the Legislature, everyone thought that hard gun control was inevitible. Instead, the Administration and Legislature both remained mute on the issue. This has traditional Leftists fuming:

There are some issues Democratic Presidents can’t seem to win, and gun control is one of them. As a legislator, Barack Obama backed tighter gun laws; as a presidential candidate, he pledged restraint. “I’m not going to take away your guns,” he said at a Pennsylvania glass factory in September 2008. He hasn’t. Last year the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, citing “extraordinary silence and passivity,” graded Obama an F on gun control.

During his tenure, the President has also expanded gun rights by signing laws that allow the possession of firearms in national parks and on Amtrak. And yet, he can’t get a nod from the National Rifle Association because those measures were tucked into broader bills Obama liked. “He has a failing record when it comes to gun rights, and that’s what our members and gun owners and hunters across the country know,” says NRA public-affairs director Andrew Arulanandam. “I also think they don’t trust him.”

If Obama has disappointed both sides so far, the tragedy in Tucson provides a possible pivot point. Senior White House aides have said the President will address the gun issue sometime soon, though they’ve declined to offer specifics on the timing and format. Equally unclear is what Obama wants to say — or what he thinks political considerations will permit him to say. Riled by Obama’s decision to duck the issue in his State of the Union address, gun-control advocates are urging aggression. “The President should stand up [on guns],” New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow. “It’s one of the issues he can build a legacy on.”

Yes, I had begun to hope that he could build a bipartisan legacy of rolling back some of the unconstitutional laws that are already on the books. That would appear to be on hold after the Tucson shooting. This is a shame, because all the Tucson shooting proved is that it is impossible to stop a mad or evil man from doing mad and evil acts. Fortunately, Ms.Giffords appears to be recovering well. Unfortunately, six people lost their lives, including a little girl.

None of this is any reason to abridge the fundamental, essential liberties of 300 million law-abiding Americans. It is disgusting how the gun controllers wait for something to happen like vultures, so they can sweep in and try and pass on a wave of emotion laws that cannot withstand the sober scrutiny and reflection of other, less emotional times.

So far, though, Obama has remained silent. I think this is just as well. The Left like to quote “polls” that say the majority of Americans support gun control, but I frankly don’t believe them. The article from Time I quoted does this with no attribution of the poll, no source, no links to methadology, nothing. I have evidence that 99% of all unsourced polls are pure bullshit, and this is an example of this. If the Democrats really believed these “polls”, they would have driven hard and fast on the gun control issue in 2009. They did not. Now they are going to try and convince some RINOs and “moderate” Republicans to sign on to their ill-advised and possibly unconstitutional laws to look bipartisan. I am hoping that Obama continues to use the wisdom of silence on this issue. It looks Presidential on him. I am hoping that the RINO/moderates do so as well, and the Republicans remember that polls are just wind; the voters have made themselves clear on this issue time and time again. They should remember that silence is golden, and if they want some real bipartisan reforms, they could look at removing the NFA restrictions on short-barreled rifles and, of course, silencers.

What do we want? GUN CONTROL!

by Kafir ( 18 Comments › )
Filed under Open thread, Politics, Weapons at May 19th, 2010 - 5:00 pm

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