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    by coldwarrior ( 74 Comments › )
    Filed under Medicine, Open thread at November 14th, 2017 - 12:18 am

    A lot of questions were asked yesterday about narcotics, deaths, et cetera. I’ll try to answer them real quick here as I have one more day of work and then OFF FOR A WEEK!!!!

    This is an Open Thread and I don’t need links. I see this every day in the meat world.

     

    Codeine=1, hydrocodone x6, oral morphine x10, oxycodone x15-20, iv morphine x 40, fentanyl x1000, carfentanyl x1,000,000.

    Heroin is 2 to 4 times stronger than morphine depending on route and metabolism in its purest form.

     

    There is an increase in fentanyl being found in the junkie’s heroin. Almost all fentanyl and all carfentanyl for this use is coming out of China and being distributed through the ports on the East Coast, hence the reason this side of Interstate 80 is getting hammered, look at the map. China is at war with US on many levels, this is just one of them. Tr’Vonne and Shananay and Bubba and Betty Sue can’t cook up fentanyl in their kitchens like cooking up crack and meth, it takes pharmaceutical and chemical expertise and a lab to manufacture it.

    We got a bunch of folks addicted to pain meds and then cut them off. Heroin is cheaper than the pills and far easier to get. Just as we got a ton of peole addicted to pain pills, we are now encouraging heroin addiction:

    The prevalence of NARCAN (the antidote to an opiate OD) is directly causing more junkies to survive the OD and causing the ER visits to skyrocket. I had one junkie, who I resuscitate three times, flat out tell me the he and his friend’s get as high as they can because they know that we will save them. We are getting in the way of Darwin way too much here and are in fact encouraging this behavior. No one forced these people to take the spike. This was started on their own free will.

    When a junkie ODs, the brand of heroin that he used becomes much sought after, that stamp on the bag is like a label. Then the ER is swamped with like minded junkies who went out and got that ‘stamp bag’. Similarly, if a group of them shoot up with the same strong stamp bags, then the ER is flooded again.

    See Yinz later! Post any questions and I will try my best to answer them!

     

     

     

     

     

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    1. lobo91
      1 | November 14, 2017 1:08 am

      The prevalence of NARCAN (the antidote to an opiate OD) is directly causing more junkies to survive the OD and causing the ER visits to skyrocket.

      My state just passed a law that says we have to issue Narcan to every inmate we release who has a history of opiate addiction.

      Because I needed yet another thing to do…


    2. Buckeye Abroad
      2 | November 14, 2017 4:15 am

      @CW

      I know a few people in your line of work and one told me there is a trend of groups of junkies getting together and the last person to spike up, call the police so they can “safely” get high.

      I was home this summer and was talking to some LEOs at the VFW and they had a couple of stories to relay. I am aware of a county sheriff who has the narcan locked in the departments office. When a patrolman finds a junkie, another patrolman has to go back to the sheriffs department to get the narcan— which takes time. They are getting less calls as time goes by. Heh.


    3. eaglesoars
      3 | November 14, 2017 8:03 am

      I have a tech question.

      Codeine=1, hydrocodone x6,

      That says hydrocodone is 6 times stronger/more potent than codeine but what is actually being measured? Are they actually talking about ‘lethal dose’ levels, i.e., it takes 6 times the dose of codeine to kill you vs. a dose of hydrocodone?


    4. 4 | November 14, 2017 8:40 am

      One minor historical fact to relate here. Heroin use in the United States follows a historical pattern. This odd pattern has repeated itself since 1919. America saw its first true wave of Heroin addiction in the years following WWI. The pattern is, that in the years following ever major military conflict the United States has been in, their has been a subsequent wave of heroin addiction.

      The prevailing theory is that each wave of heroin addiction begins with returning wounded veterans. Excessive opiate use on the battlefield to treat incredibly serious and unbelievably painful combat wounds combined with very disastrous home Veteran medical care results in pain medication over prescription with transitions to heroin use and addiction among veterans.

      As the veterans transition back to civilian life their addiction begins a spike in domestic demand for heroin, this new spike results in large numbers of none military veterans becoming involved in the domestic heroin trade and becoming addicts.

      Within a few years the none veteran heroin addict population quickly outnumbers the veteran addict population by a 100 to a 1000 to 1 ration. The war time spike America is experiencing today has been profoundly exacerbated by a very liberal opiate prescription policy by America’s medical profession.

      Rush Limbaugh infamous addiction to oxycodone is a perfect example. Prescribed to him as pain medication for a back injury Rush became one of the millions of American’s shocked to discover that oxycodone was in fact nearly 10 times as addictive as its manufactures had lead the medical profession to believe.

      For the average American, their first introduction to opiate addiction begins with the innocuous sounding prescription of Hydrocodone, i.e. Vicodin or Norco. Even when used exactly as prescribed opiate addiction as a consequence of Hydrocodone is a very real possibility. Long term use is virtually a guarantee of low level opiate addiction.

      The tightening of prescriptions on Hydrocodone once addiction has set in results in the individual seeking alternative supplies of the medication. If they are unable to secure alternative supplies, rather than suffer the effects of opiate withdrawal, they often seek out illegal narcotic variations as a substitute. This is where heroin and fentanyl come in.

      Typically a 10mg Norco sells on the street for between 3 to 5 dollars per tablet. An individual suffering from low level opiate addiction to Vicodin or Norco for chronic pain relief isn’t looking to get “High”. They are seeking a combination of pain management and withdrawal symptom management.

      Without access to Vicodin or Norco, they often feel no other recourse than to resort to heroin as an alternative. Heroin is price competitive and often more reliable in supply. Its also far more addictive and powerful resulting in a transition from simple pain and withdrawal management to full on euphoria seeking addiction.

      Low level opiate/Hydrocodone addiction by chronic pain suffers often goes unnoticed by the individual suffering addiction and only becomes noticeable when their supply is dramatically restricted. This opiate addiction epidemic is so widespread in America that it is a virtual certainty that everyone knows several low level opiate addicts and are not even aware of this fact.

      Individuals suffering from chronic pain induced low level Norco/Vicodin Hydrocodone opiate addiction rarely take the medication for the purpose of getting high, consequently they display none of the behavioral characteristics of the typical “Heroin/opiate” addict. This is how the opiate addiction epidemic grew so large while sailing under the radar for so long.

      The vast majority of America’s current opiate addicts are these individuals, addicted as a consequence of pain management prescriptions and pushed to ever stronger and legal opiate use by ever tightening restrictions on the prescription medications that addicted them in the first place.

      The introduction into American society of so many wounded veterans and the Obama era disastrous administration of the VA resulted in a huge spike in heroin trafficking and then the new more aggressive federal restrictions on pain medications such as Hydrocodone acted like gasoline being thrown on a fire to produce the opiate epidemic we see today.


    5. RIX
      5 | November 14, 2017 8:52 am

      http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/nfl-owners-plotting-take-patriotic-owner-jerry-jones-condemns-goodell-anthem-kneelers/
      @ Gateway Pundit
      The NFL is in a mess half empty stadiums, loss of viewership and sponsors. So a group of owners have rhe
      solution, make Jerry Jones forfeit the Cowboys, because HIS conduct is detrimental to the league! WTF?


    6. 6 | November 14, 2017 8:53 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Are they actually talking about ‘lethal dose’ levels,

      CW I am sure will correct me if I have this wrong, but I believe what those numbers represent are a combination of the drugs pain reduction/euphoria producing capabilities and their addictive index.

      One of the odd characteristics of opiates, is that tolerance levels are somewhat dependent on historical usage levels. In other words, the amount that will kill you depends on how much you use, how frequently you use, and exactly which opiate you use.

      Opiates like heroin and fentanyl also have the perverse characteristic that the individuals taking them suffer from tolerance buildup. It takes an ever increasing amount and potency for them to achieve the desired euphoria. Amounts that would have killed them when they first stated using within a year or two won’t even ward off the withdrawal symptoms let alone provide them the euphoria they are seeking.


    7. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      7 | November 14, 2017 9:13 am

      So, the Menendez trial. Jury divided politically? Jurors bribed? Or did the prosecution not prove their case?


    8. eaglesoars
      8 | November 14, 2017 9:19 am

      doriangrey wrote:

      the amount that will kill you depends on how much you use, how frequently you use, and exactly which opiate you use.

      I believe it was you who told us that one way prior use/addiction can be detected during autopsy is to check fat cells/fatty tissue?

      Addiction of any kind, I’ve come to believe, is a disease. When I had to stop drinking I never gave it a 2nd thought, never missed it. It was easy because I wasn’t addicted and I understood that it contributed to pain so severe I called it ‘the skullfucker’. That’s liver disease. Now I realize that people who have compromised livers from drinking experience at least some of the pain I did AND THEY STILL DRINK. That leads me to wonder if there have been some profound alterations in brain chemistry.


    9. eaglesoars
      9 | November 14, 2017 9:22 am

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      So, the Menendez trial. Jury divided politically? Jurors bribed? Or did the prosecution not prove their case?

      Grossly incompetent voir dire on the part of the prosecution. “What is a Senator?”


    10. 10 | November 14, 2017 9:48 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      I believe it was you who told us that one way prior use/addiction can be detected during autopsy is to check fat cells/fatty tissue?

      Yup, I definitely should have never dated that Pathologist… Just an odd little side note here, pathologists in large metropolitan areas do so many autopsies that they develop an odd personality characteristic. Their thought to speech governor goes kablewie… They orally dictate their findings as they conduct the autopsies and then later those recording are transcribed into their reports.

      After a few years the habit of oral dictation becomes so strong that they tend to say whatever is on their mind without even realizing it. It can be both amusing and distracting to those in relationships with them. The amount of medical knowledge that comes flowing out of their mouths, often at the most inappropriate times is genuinely staggering.


    11. eaglesoars
      11 | November 14, 2017 10:27 am

      doriangrey wrote:

      The amount of medical knowledge that comes flowing out of their mouths, often at the most inappropriate times is genuinely staggering.

      Do you remember that TV show “St. Elsewhere”? I LOVED it. There was a character like that, a female pathologist who was in charge of the hospital morgue. Somehow the writers made her awkwardly hilarious – a total whack job, but oddly sympathetic.


    12. 12 | November 14, 2017 10:28 am

      RIX wrote:

      http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/nfl-owners-plotting-take-patriotic-owner-jerry-jones-condemns-goodell-anthem-kneelers/
      @ Gateway Pundit
      The NFL is in a mess half empty stadiums, loss of viewership and sponsors. So a group of owners have rhe
      solution, make Jerry Jones forfeit the Cowboys, because HIS conduct is detrimental to the league! WTF?

      That would put the nail in the coffin for the NFL for me – I still side-eye the Game Mix channel, since it does not produce TV ratings – but there is nothing in Goodell’s stewardship of the League that even screams competence. To try to take a man’s team away from him because he’s speaking out again an inept Commissioner. Goodell needs to GO and go NOW.


    13. 13 | November 14, 2017 10:39 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Somehow the writers made her awkwardly hilarious – a total whack job, but oddly sympathetic.

      ROTFLMAO… Ya, much like the one I briefly dated. Truthfully though they seem far more like whack jobs then in reality they are. Kataricia (I am sure that’s not the correct spelling) nice Russian girl (Not a Ukie) only one name, no first name, or was it no last name? Quiet the sweetheart if you could get past the peculiarities directly connected to her chosen profession.

      Could not get her to shut up for anything, not even when she was sleeping. I had the hardest damned time telling if she was talking to me, or just talking. I suppose eventually one could get used to that, but we didn’t date long enough for me to find out.


    14. eaglesoars
      14 | November 14, 2017 10:56 am

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      To try to take a man’s team away from him because he’s speaking out again an inept Commissioner.

      I don’t believe the story. I think it’s a plant by some person(s) sympathetic to the kneelers to try to scare off Jerry Jones. Good luck with that. In the immortal words of somebody or other – “wrong white guy”


    15. eaglesoars
      15 | November 14, 2017 11:06 am

      wut? I don’t have the TV on, this just popped up on twitter

      —————-
      BREAKING NEWS: Jeff Sessions was just asked if he recused himself from any investigation of Hillary Clinton. His response was he couldn’t give a yes or no answer because it might reveal an existing investigation.
      ————-

      https://twitter.com/ACTforAmerica/status/930463652947349506


    16. momcat
      16 | November 14, 2017 11:31 am

      An update on Rain If Lead He is out of back surgery and everything went well.Lets hope for a speedy recovery. He should be flying home on Friday. He had to have it done in Charlotte ,North Carolina.Please keep him in your prayers and good thoughts. Thank you!


    17. 17 | November 14, 2017 11:31 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      it might reveal an existing investigation.

      Sorry, not buying it. Mueller who not still be running his dog and pony show if that were true.


    18. momcat
      18 | November 14, 2017 11:32 am

      He was still on drugs so he was feeling good. we will see about later.


    19. RIX
      19 | November 14, 2017 12:51 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:
      That would put the nail in the coffin for the NFL for me – I still side-eye the Game Mix channel, since it does not produce TV ratings – but there is nothing in Goodell’s stewardship of the League that even screams competence. To try to take a man’s team away from him because he’s speaking out again an inept Commissioner. Goodell needs to GO and go NOW

      Right now.


    20. RIX
      20 | November 14, 2017 1:18 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      wut? I don’t have the TV on, this just popped up on twitter

      —————-
      BREAKING NEWS: Jeff Sessions was just asked if he recused himself from any investigation of Hillary Clinton. His response was he couldn’t give a yes or no answer because it might reveal an existing investigation.
      ————-

      https://twitter.com/ACTforAmerica/status/930463652947349506

      That seems to be his stock answer.


    21. 21 | November 14, 2017 1:50 pm

      Is there something to these claims about Moore?

      https://www.weaselzippers.us/364113-locals-claim-moore-hung-out-at-mall-flirted-with-teen-girls/


    22. 22 | November 14, 2017 1:58 pm

      In Legal News, the SCOTUS has agreed to take the cert petition on the Constitutionality of one of the worst and most ridiculous laws to come out of the Sacramento legislature (and that’s saying something). The law requires pregnancy centers run by groups opposed to abortion to provide information on the availability of the procedure.

      I anticipate SCOTUS telling California they are full of crap. This is what happens when your state is in the back pocket of Planned Butcherhood. They get laws passed like this and then get the AG’s office to prosecute filmmakers.


    23. eaglesoars
      23 | November 14, 2017 2:58 pm

      I just got home, but I heard they agreed to hear a case about a baker who refused to bake a cake for a gay wedding?

      right_wing2 wrote:

      Is there something to these claims about Moore?

      If you believe that fathers who thought this guy was a threat to their daughters would not have availed themselves of the Atchafalaya Swamp right over the border in Louisiana, and that an entire community who ‘knew’ for 40 yrs that he was a creep kept returning him to office, then sure…..


    24. eaglesoars
      24 | November 14, 2017 3:28 pm

      Ok, this whole dossier story is changing. McCain ADMITTED he passed it to the FBI. Now the story is that Fusion GPS gave it to the FBI?

      confused………


    25. 25 | November 14, 2017 4:16 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      As it turns out, when more details came out, it was learned the FBI already had the dossier when McLame gave it to them, which makes you wonder why he got involved in the first place. My theory is that Hillary and the DNC needed someone NOT affiliated with their campaign to go through the motions of getting the document to the FBI and of course in McLame they found a willing dupe. Which is why I think there was an agreement between McLame and Hillary for a place in her administration for being the “beard” for the dossier.


    26. eaglesoars
      26 | November 14, 2017 5:03 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      As it turns out, when more details came out, it was learned the FBI already had the dossier when McLame gave it to them,

      oooooohhhhh.


    27. 27 | November 14, 2017 5:13 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      This thing reeks to high heaven. If Sessions apoints a special counsel for Uranium 1, he needs jurisdiction over an investigation into the Dossier and the FISA warrants obtained as a result of it. He needs to focus on Comey and Mueller’s role in both circumstances.


    28. rain of lead
      28 | November 14, 2017 5:16 pm

      Hey y’all
      As momcat posted above, I’m pain free…..whoo hoo
      Napped for about 6hrs, longest sleep I’ve had in 3 days
      So glad to be free of pain


    29. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      30 | November 14, 2017 5:20 pm

      Well, crazy uncle Joe Biden just appealed to his base and permanently alienated himself from all gun owners and 2nd amendment supporters in the country. He declared that the hero in the Texas shooting shouldn’t have had that gun. If the GOP had any spine they would be using groups (like the left do right now) to be advertising this quote by him over and over for the next 3 years.


    30. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      31 | November 14, 2017 5:21 pm

      @ rain of lead:
      Good to hear.


    31. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      32 | November 14, 2017 5:22 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      As it turns out, when more details came out, it was learned the FBI already had the dossier when McLame gave it to them, which makes you wonder why he got involved in the first place. My theory is that Hillary and the DNC needed someone NOT affiliated with their campaign to go through the motions of getting the document to the FBI and of course in McLame they found a willing dupe. Which is why I think there was an agreement between McLame and Hillary for a place in her administration for being the “beard” for the dossier.

      Yep, fits with the idea he was promised Sec of Defense. Plus, he’s been more than happy to play the shill for the left over the last few years without any prompting.


    32. 33 | November 14, 2017 5:28 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      Hey y’all
      As momcat posted above, I’m pain free…..whoo hoo
      Napped for about 6hrs, longest sleep I’ve had in 3 days
      So glad to be free of pain

      Wonderful Wonderful news!!!!
      Love home to Momcat!


    33. eaglesoars
      34 | November 14, 2017 5:29 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      If Sessions apoints a special counsel for Uranium 1, he needs jurisdiction over an investigation into the Dossier and the FISA warrants obtained as a result of it. He needs to focus on Comey and Mueller’s role in both circumstances.

      I’m assuming by ‘he’ you are referring to any Special Counsel. But Sessions has indicated he can investigate w/o a ‘special’, so how would that be different?


    34. 35 | November 14, 2017 5:29 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      I have no doubt if he plans to run in 2020, the NRA will be happy to remind all of us!


    35. 36 | November 14, 2017 5:33 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      If he’s willing to investigate without one, I’ll be very very happy to hear it. The last I heard his “recusal” covered anything to do with the dossier and Uranium 1 (because RUSSIA!!). This is very welcome news. And if they are investigating without use of a special counsel, even better!


    36. RIX
      37 | November 14, 2017 5:33 pm

      Just a thought, if the allegations against Roy Moore are true at the time he was a…… wait for it…. a DEMOCRAT!
      We need Democrat control, more laws , stop the madness!


    37. RIX
      38 | November 14, 2017 5:35 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      Hey y’all
      As momcat posted above, I’m pain free…..whoo hoo
      Napped for about 6hrs, longest sleep I’ve had in 3 days
      So glad to be free of pain

      Fantastic!


    38. 39 | November 14, 2017 5:41 pm

      RIX wrote:

      Just a thought, if the allegations against Roy Moore are true at the time he was a…… wait for it…. a DEMOCRAT!
      We need Democrat control, more laws , stop the madness!

      Yep – Democrat until 1992. One of YOURS at the time, Dems.


    39. eaglesoars
      40 | November 14, 2017 5:41 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      checketh yer email in a bit…


    40. eaglesoars
      41 | November 14, 2017 5:44 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      The last I heard his “recusal” covered anything to do with the dossier and Uranium 1 (because RUSSIA!!).

      he clarified that a bit and said he wasn’t recused from some areas but I forget what they are. Sara Carter is going to be on Hannity tonite, maybe she’ll cover it.


    41. 42 | November 14, 2017 5:54 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      I supposed I’m sounding frustrated….I just can’t stand to see those twin turds the Clintons skate time after time after the dirty things they do — but Donald Trump, who has employed people, given to charity his whole life and treated people decently – is roasted on a media fire for the crime of being elected.


    42. eaglesoars
      43 | November 14, 2017 5:58 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      is roasted on a media fire for the crime of being elected.

      that’s ok, he can take it. If the MSM loved him, I’d be thinking we fucked up. We all picked sides a long time ago, if I’m not hearing incoming, I’ve somehow crossed enemy lines.


    43. 44 | November 14, 2017 6:03 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      True that. And as Rush Limbaugh says to those who get upset about Trump’s “way of handling stuff” – THIS IS WHAT PUSHBACK LOOKS LIKE.


    44. Deplorable Bumr50
      45 | November 14, 2017 6:04 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      Howdy, Rain!

      Awesome news.


    45. 46 | November 14, 2017 6:59 pm

      Well, lookee here:

      https://www.weaselzippers.us/364156-trump-convinced-china-to-let-3-ucla-players-go/

      Trump wasted NO time in getting these kids released from China. I seem to recall a poor truck driver who took a wrong turn in Mexico and was completely IGNORED by the Obama administration and was held for quite awhile.


    46. 47 | November 14, 2017 7:02 pm

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      However, while I am glad the kids will not do ten years’ imprisonment for the crime of shoplifting, they should immediatley LOSE their basketball scholarships and be banned from the NCAA.

      (It won’t matter – the NBA will welcome them with open arms).


    47. eaglesoars
      48 | November 14, 2017 7:03 pm

      It looks like a possible coup in Zimbabwe. I’d love to see Mugabe lynched.

      and…

      Saudi prince orders Palestinian president to accept Jared Kushner’s peace plan

      yes,well we shall see.

      https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/saudi-prince-orders-palestinian-president-to-accept-jared-kushners-peace-plan-xjdts8338?CMP=Sprkr-_-Editorial-_-thetimes-_-World-_-Imageandlink-_-Statement-_-Unspecified-_-TWITTER&linkId=44699733


    48. RIX
      49 | November 14, 2017 7:07 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      Just a thought, if the allegations against Roy Moore are true at the time he was a…… wait for it…. a DEMOCRAT!
      We need Democrat control, more laws , stop the madness!

      Yep – Democrat until 1992. One of YOURS at the time, Dems.

      The MSM won’t touch this.


    49. eaglesoars
      50 | November 14, 2017 7:13 pm

      Aussie and I have been talking about this for awhile. Australia has been deeply infiltrated

      China’s sophisticated infiltration of Australian politics is a troubling example of how authoritarian states can subvert open societies. The United States should heed the lesson.

      https://www.the-american-interest.com/2017/11/13/chinas-influence-game/


    50. AZfederalist
      51 | November 14, 2017 8:55 pm

      momcat wrote:

      An update on Rain If Lead He is out of back surgery and everything went well.Lets hope for a speedy recovery. He should be flying home on Friday. He had to have it done in Charlotte ,North Carolina.Please keep him in your prayers and good thoughts. Thank you!

      Good to hear, thoughts and prayers for him and your whole family.


    51. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      52 | November 14, 2017 9:42 pm

      Okay, I made Jicama fries tonight. They are freaking amazing. The don’t quite get like potato, but I think I’ll live. (The cost is a pain though).


    52. Deplorable Bumr50
      53 | November 14, 2017 9:56 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      Is there an advantage to jicama vs. potato?

      Carbs?


    53. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      54 | November 14, 2017 10:17 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      Is there an advantage to jicama vs. potato?

      Carbs?

      Yeah, jicama has zero carbs. High in fiber and vitamins. Potatoes are loaded with carbs due to the starch content. It gets absorbed as simple sugars.

      I also made chili with black soy beans. Turns out that is the only bean I can use that is pretty much carb free. Luckily they taste a lot like black beans. Going to try them as refried beans next.


    54. Deplorable Bumr50
      55 | November 14, 2017 10:23 pm

      Wow, the whole Moore thing is crazy.

      First time I’ve seen Drudge schizo since his site’s been up.


    55. Deplorable Bumr50
      56 | November 14, 2017 10:25 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      Cool! My wife watches carbs.

      We’ll give em’ a try.


    56. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      58 | November 14, 2017 11:18 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      Cool! My wife watches carbs.

      We’ll give em’ a try.

      Jicama is also great to just dip in whatever dip you like. It’s kind of like an apple in texture.


    57. 59 | November 14, 2017 11:20 pm

      Interesting site at dnasimple.org. Fill out some basic information about yourself and they’ll pay you if you’re selected to contribute DNA for research. I saw this on Shark Tank the other night.


    58. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      60 | November 14, 2017 11:23 pm

      Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      Cool! My wife watches carbs.

      We’ll give em’ a try.

      If you need some ideas on low carb stuff let me know. I’m not an expert, but I’ve been studying everything I can. I even know how to make the shiritake pasta palatable.


    59. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      61 | November 14, 2017 11:24 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      Interesting site at dnasimple.org. Fill out some basic information about yourself and they’ll pay you if you’re selected to contribute DNA for research. I saw this on Shark Tank the other night.

      Checking it out now.


    60. 62 | November 15, 2017 10:08 am

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      I love jicama – I eat it raw in place of apples. But you’re right about cost. Man, I can get a big bag of apples for three bucks.


    61. 63 | November 15, 2017 10:47 am

      And now, of course, the MSM is falling all over itself saying that they’re ready to believe Juanita Broderick. Right. Call me when you start investigating – REALLY investigating – Clinton’s trips on the Lolita Express the way you reported on that phony rape civil lawsuit against Trump.

      Rush pointed out yesterday that he believes the fact that they’re brining up BJ Bill’s “sexploits” more and more has several motivations: (1) it’s an attempt to demonstrate they’re being “fair”; (2) it’s a way to tie Trump back in with the (unproved) allegations against him; and (3) it’s the way the Democrat Establishment can finally rid itself of the Clintons by letting them know there is no longer any media cover for them anymore.

      I do love it when the libs bring up that fake lawsuit on Twitter. I can destroy it in a paragraph.


    62. Deplorable Bumr50
      64 | November 15, 2017 12:24 pm

      Looks like Drudge is taking shots at Bannon. His closeted Nevertrump is going to come out bigly.


    63. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      65 | November 15, 2017 2:32 pm

      http://video.foxnews.com/v/5646895881001/?#sp=show-clips

      Sexual harassment settlements in Congress paid by taxpayers


    64. darkwords
      66 | November 15, 2017 2:53 pm

      That is how my friend died. Traumatic Brain injury requiring opiates to live. He had a good doctor but his friends stole his meds twice. The good doctor canceled him out of his program. The pain was so bad he couldn’t reestablish professional contact much less deal with any type of authority. The people that stole his meds sold him heroin and later fentanyl. He died of an overdose 15 months ago. He couldn’t always remember if he took stuff or not.

      It is an epidemic. I’d don’t have a good solution other then to crack down hard on the sellers and users. And require people that need them to do it in an assisted setting.


    65. darkwords
      67 | November 15, 2017 2:56 pm

      Deplorable Barbarian wrote:

      @ Deplorable Barbarian:

      However, while I am glad the kids will not do ten years’ imprisonment for the crime of shoplifting, they should immediatley LOSE their basketball scholarships and be banned from the NCAA.

      (It won’t matter – the NBA will welcome them with open arms).

      Young people are stupid. I would problem make them go back to China for a year and work as mentors and public servants to kids.


    66. 68 | November 15, 2017 3:59 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      Jackie Speier was Little Miss Press Conference yesterday “I’ve seen both Republican and Democrat Members harass people.

      Well, NAME NAMES, you attention-whoring twit!


    67. eaglesoars
      69 | November 15, 2017 4:33 pm

      darkwords wrote:

      And require people that need them to do it in an assisted setting.

      which is a catch-22 because if you’re in pain that requires opiates, physical movement is probably difficult


    68. coldwarrior
      70 | November 15, 2017 5:25 pm

      new thread.


    69. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      71 | November 15, 2017 5:33 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      Interesting site at dnasimple.org. Fill out some basic information about yourself and they’ll pay you if you’re selected to contribute DNA for research. I saw this on Shark Tank the other night.

      Weird, I signed up and they said to wait for an email. Never came.


    70. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      72 | November 15, 2017 5:34 pm

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      right_wing2 wrote:

      Interesting site at dnasimple.org. Fill out some basic information about yourself and they’ll pay you if you’re selected to contribute DNA for research. I saw this on Shark Tank the other night.

      Weird, I signed up and they said to wait for an email. Never came.

      Never mind. Requested it again and it arrived.


    71. RIX
      73 | November 16, 2017 7:43 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Grossly incompetent voir dire on the part of the prosecution. “What is a Senator?”

      reply | quote


    72. RIX
      74 | November 16, 2017 7:46 pm

      RIX wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      Grossly incompetent voir dire on the part of the prosecution. “What is a Senator?”

      reply | quote


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