…this should be a barn-burner of a speech!
Do we get ‘The Memo’ today? Are more swamp rats going to ‘retire’
2018 State of the Union Open
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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
CNN reporting Trump wants the memo released, but after his speech
it’s not clear what ‘after his speech’ means. Next year is ‘after his speech’
oh this should be good. In order to get into the Capitol bldg, you have to show ID. And even more, depending why you’re there. Hubby had a meeting w/Schumer’s staff yesterday and his SSN had to be pre-submitted ahead of time, id’d at security, then a staffer had to come get him and escort him to the meeting. It makes no difference that he’s been around for decades.
So the Dems want to bring Dreamers to the SCOTUS? How are they going to get them in? They don’t have legal SSNs. It seems a Congress Critter has noticed.
Rep Paul Gosser:
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Today, Congressman Paul Gosar contacted the U.S. Capitol Police, as well as Attorney General Jeff Sessions, asking they consider checking identification of all attending the State of the Union address and arresting any illegal aliens in attendance.
Additionally, Congressman Gosar asked that they arrest those using fraudulent social security numbers and identification to pass through security.
https://twitter.com/RepGosar/status/958407946932760576
@ eaglesoars:
RAAAAACIST!
God, I want to see the liberal heads exploding over this. Figuratively of course. I don’t want to be accused of promoting violence or threatening anyone.
eaglesoars wrote:
Sarah Sanders has shot that down. POTUS hasn’t seen it, hasn’t been briefed on it, nor asked for its release
CNN fucks up again.
So this is the next play in their increasingly deranged playbook
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MSNBC panelist John Heilemann asked two different guests on Monday whether they believe Republican Rep. Devin Nunes (Calif.) is now a Russian agent.
[]
“Doesn’t his behavior speak of that, though?” Heilemann asked. “I mean, I’m not the first person who’s raised this. He’s behaving like someone who’s been compromised, and there are people in the intelligence community and others with great expertise in this area who look at him and say, ‘That guy’s been compromised.'”
[]
“Congressman Nunes, your chairman, it is suggested not by me but by people who follow these matters closely, could he possibly be someone who has been compromised by the Russians?” Heilemann asked. “Is that something that you consider a possibility?”
http://freebeacon.com/politics/msnbc-analyst-asks-democrats-if-devin-nunes-has-been-compromised-and-become-a-russian-agent/
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I don’t know who comes up with this stuff, but they need a better script writer
@ eaglesoars:
Forty years ago the Democrats had their noses stuck above 6’ up the Communists asses. Too bad they weren’t worried about real communists then.
@ right_wing2:
oh they still are. What do you think all this SJW crap is?
http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2018/01/dennis_kucinich_calls_for_end.html
Never change, Dennis.
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
The Keebler Elf still hasn’t figured out that poverty is detrimental to your health
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In addition, Kucinich would direct the Ohio State Highway Patrol to stop, inspect, and turn away vehicles found with fracking waste.
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You know, that’s interesting. I wonder if he would stop tankers coming in to refill the storage tanks at all the gas stations in Ohio. Maybe some energy companies that have/benefit from fracking operations could just stop sending them. That’s a lot less pollution if no one can run their vehicles, Dennis. That’s healthy!
Totally off topic (when was I ever on topic? ) saw something on Facebook where someone was craving a certain food while undergoing some treatment.
Any chance one of the grown ups here can set up an Uber Eats or whatever it is called account then we could send that person the food the person craved.
LOL you know I would send him something like a live squid. But he may get a laugh out of it as he watched it chase the nurses and slap them on the ass….
Yep I am not normal.
oh my goodness. There’s such a thing as Appalachian Magazine. And it has an article on our speech
http://appalachianmagazine.com/2017/11/23/the-history-of-appalachian-english-why-we-talk-differently/
@ Possum:
sorry, I’m all tapped out. Vet bills and medical bills
@ Possum:
It that Macker craving a certain food?
Totally off topic (when was I ever on topic? ) saw something on Facebook where someone was craving a certain food while undergoing some treatment.
Any chance one of the grown ups here can set up an Uber Eats or whatever it is called account then we could send that person the food the person craved.
LOL you know I would send him something like a live squid. But he may get a laugh out of it as he watched it chase the nurses and slap them on the ass….
Yep I am not normal.
@ eaglesoars:
No I am not asking for money just asking if someone could open a supply line we could send food to someone.
@ Calo:
Is Macker hungry too? I just saw someone with the same last name as me craving fries 😉
@ Possum:
Door Dash might work for Taco Bell.
Macker wants their new fries!
LOL Calo you donated $75 to Scumbag Stranahan just to piss me off so I donated $75 to Gus801 just to piss you off.
All this person asked for was $2 bag of fries. I couldn’t find a way….
Matin O’Malley was just on with Tucker talking about immigration. He referenced his immigrant grandfathers
fighting in World War I in “1925” Apparently his grandfathers did not get the memo that the war ended in 1918.
Just bad communication.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwM_shqZFks
dayum
FLOTUS is smokin hot
@ rain of lead:
And to think, it’s hard to be that beautiful on the heels of the last FLOTUS.
rain of lead wrote:
You just noticed? She is what the democrats pretended Jackie Kennedy was supposed to be.
Calo wrote:
I almost choked on the sarcasm there.
Possum wrote:
oh. well, where are they?
@ Calo:
I know, right?
and across the nation, millions of teeth just ground down to nubs on hearing trump introduced
@ eaglesoars:
Apparently Macker posted on FB that he wanted the new Taco Bell fries while undergoing chemo yesterday.
I don’t bookface, but I think that is what Possum was referring to.
@ Calo:
Yep, woold have been nice to send fries from someone 5000 miles away
Calo wrote:
Ah. I just talked to him today. He just got out of the hospital. Didn’t say a word about fries but he’s now in a position to get them if he wants. When we spoke he was going to the laundromat OR reformatting his ‘puter with new drives.
suck a lemon worthless dems
I know shit that most American citizens do not know.
At the SOTU address there is one of the persons who is in line to be president if disaster strikes.
Who is missing tonight?
I got a trump bonus
not alot but hey…
OK, which person in line to be president is not attending the SOTU address?
Possum wrote:
Agriculture Secretary. Sonny Perdue
@ lobo91:
Ag Sec again! LOL um… starting to get predictable.
@ Possum:
Kiefer Sutherland was unavailable
and Canadian, I believe
rain of lead wrote:
hey, count yer blessings, we’re self-employed, no bonus for us!
Accelerated medical trials. I’m for that
@ Calo:
how on earth is he going to lower drug prices? We pay for the R&D for years.
@ eaglesoars:
I was wondering the same thing.
Well he just convinced me on that one If you are declared terminally ill then you should be able to be experimented on. With your consent obviously.
CW might have a better handle on that question.
Fast track medical/drug trials, lower R&D?
oh yeah! I’m all for vocational schools. That anybody can attend, regardless of age.
Calo wrote:
liability insurance? I don’t know if that even applies. Certainly decreasing the timeline would help.
eaglesoars wrote:
How about R&D is done not by drug companies but by the state and then the drugs are free.
A healthy workforce is a productive workforce. That is why companies in the USA provide health insurance. Keep workers healthy and productive.
Expand that to a healthy country is a productive country.
Possum wrote:
are you serious? just outline how you think that will work. I’m all pixel ears
Hey Trump. If you grant legal status to 1.8 million illegals how much you going to charge them for it? the $4000 and more it cost me? Or, do I get a refund?
@ eaglesoars:
I ain’t touching that.
I’ll have to reedumacate him after smacking him upside his hard head.
omg. Look at Tim Kaine. He is shit-faced
https://twitter.com/carolrhartsell/status/958529256744804352
@ eaglesoars:
The state will steal a bunch of money, claim they are doing research, THEN claim they need more money because the research was “inconclusive”?
I’ve seen this fish before…
@ eaglesoars:
First tell me why employers offer health insurance? why not just pay employees $5 per hour?
@ Possum:
5$ more per hour… sorry
@ Possum:
Because, in the context of history, health care benefits were TAX FREE wages that a company could give to employees and deduct from the corporate bottom line. A win-win.
Calo wrote:
he’s a bright guy. just let him walk it thru, he’ll see it.
EVERYBODY GO LOOK AT THE LINK IN MY #48.
This guy could have been our VP. They are going to have to hunt for him under the seats when this is over and pour him back into whatever bottle he slithered out of
@ eaglesoars:
Lol
@ eaglesoars:
Maybe he stole some of his kid’s dope?
(Oh, wait…is his kid in jail?…I can’t keep up with these things…)
Calo wrote:
just got home…medical trials and bringing to market, and the law suits are written into the cost of the final product.
the trials are absurd and don’t follow normal statistical practice. they are overly long and overly burdensome.
lawyers.
yes, there has to be a licensing oversight of these meds, certainly. but just watch daytime TV…SUE THE DRUG MANUFACTURERS!!!!
this has to be curbed.
Possum wrote:
well, its actually an outgrowth of wage controls during WW2…to attract workers, med coverage was offered…well, in the post WW@ boom it was retained and became ‘the norm’
Possum wrote:
historically, that came from negotiations with unions. Unions took hold in industries that are inherently dangerous, e.g., coal mining. Where there is a long and storied history of violent strikes. Also, some of the union dues were used to support families while workers were out injured. Over time, as mgmt slots are usually filled by workers coming up, they didn’t want to lose those benefits. Post WW II, as the economy took off the practice spread in order to attain and retain the white collar/mid-level staff.
@ coldwarrior:
So, you are saying Trump wants to build a wall to keep the lawyers out of the courts?
coldwarrior wrote:
And big trucks.
They’re scary…
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
nope. The little Antifa Anarchist walked. Washington D.C. ‘stick it to the man’ jury
Calo wrote:
i’s build lamp posts and open a hemp rope factory.
but that’s just me.
or a salt mine…salt dries up slugs and leeches.
@ eaglesoars:
OK…. I see it. Now look at it the way I see it. There is a company called USA Corporation. If you work for them you get medical insurance so if you are sick you get treated so you can return to work and be productive as fast as possible.
If my scenario of looking at the USA as a company which provides health coverage to all its workers so that the USA corporation could get the best productivity from its workers is wrong then why is medical insurance provided by other companies ok?
Maybe I am looking at a bigger picture than others.
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
HELP US!!! BIG TRUCKS!!!!
Possum wrote:
Let’s start at the beginning.
How much money does the gov’t have?
coldwarrior wrote:
Hmmm, I need a BIGGER TRUCK…
@ Possum:
I would prefer not to duplicate the NHS here.
eaglesoars wrote:
Possum must never have paid attention to the cost and efficiency with which the Government operates anything they run. If the Government ran a lemonade stand, the lemonade would cost $100.00 per 8 oz glass, and you would only get 4 actual oz’s.
doriangrey wrote:
YUGELY YUGER!
@ eaglesoars:
OK…. I see it. Now look at it the way I see it. There is a company called USA Corporation. If you work for them you get medical insurance so if you are sick you get treated so you can return to work and be productive as fast as possible.
If my scenario of looking at the USA as a company which provides health coverage to all its workers so that the USA corporation could get the best productivity from its workers is wrong then why is medical insurance provided by other companies ok?
Maybe I am looking at a bigger picture than others.
eaglesoars wrote:
I do not know. But countries seem to run like companies. buying, selling and manufacturing stuff. If the workers are healthy they will be manufacturing more stuff
High praise from a guy who’s never been a Trump supporter
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This speech represents the presidential performance that Trump observers have been waiting for – brilliant mix of numbers and stories, humility and aggressiveness, traditional conservatism and political populism. Only one word qualifies: Wow.
https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/958538956831825921
coldwarrior wrote:
Dodge 3500 or maybe a Ford F-450??
@ Possum:
See China.
And with that, I’m off to see what the morons on Ace’s place are saying.
Night
Possum wrote:
no. Gov’t has ZERO money. None. All the money gov’ts have is from tax revenue. The gov’t produces NOTHING.
There is not one thing the gov’t does that is not funded from taxes.
Companies produce goods/services for which they voluntarily paid my customers. Gov’t provides services but all of them are paid for involuntarily thru taxes.
CW, did I miss anything?
Calo wrote:
and I first read that as “I’m off to pee on the morons on Ace’s place”
doriangrey wrote:
I have health insurance. Last year it was $619 per month. This year it went up to $935 per month so I had to drop from a “silver” plan to the lower one and pay $649
Um, not seen a doctor or used any medical thingies for over 5 years.
I should stop paying for “insurance” if I get sick it would be cheaper to fly to England…..
@ doriangrey:
Puny.
This looks more your speed.
https://www.commercialtrucktrader.com/listing/2017-Peterbilt-389–122690053
Possum wrote:
In England the health insurance costs have also gone up but they are hidden in your gov’t taxes. You just pointed out that you can make a choice here. What financial options are available to people who have to use the NHS regarding their costs?
@ doriangrey:
With a gun rack and lift kit!
eaglesoars wrote:
Nope
@ eaglesoars:
Last comment, Possum told me the English pay EXTRA for private insurance, if they choose to do so, not funded by the NHS.
eaglesoars wrote:
Just to anticipate an argument I’ve heard regarding NHS: Well, what about Medicare? People don’t realize we DO pay for medicare. I pay $6000/yr in 2018, in 2017 I paid $4800. When I become eligible for social security, it will be deducted from that check. That is in addition to what I pay for supplemental insurance, about $1800 this year, and in addition to my drug plan and I forget what I pay for that.
But I get to shop every year for what I can best afford/best value for me. Except for the medicare part.
Calo wrote:
But NHS is mandated for everybody, correct?
Joe Kennedy III is platitudes. CEO make too much money. Bullying in school.
How does one say ‘fuck off’ in Spanish?
eaglesoars wrote:
I dunno, doesn’t he always look like that?
Oh.
@ eaglesoars:
I stole this one…
Kennedy is knocking this speech over the bridge.
@ Calo:
Dang, need an upvote button for that. 🙂
@ Calo:
uptwinkles!
gonna watch the speech now and enjoy an 18 yo scotch.
and a cigar…an expensive cigar.
I haz da sleepies. nite.
Frank Luntz again.
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Tonight, I owe Donald Trump an apology. Tonight, I was moved and inspired. Tonight, I have hope and faith in America again.
It may go away tomorrow… But tonight, America is great again.
https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/958544245584945152
kudos to the Dem strategist that put the Kennedy Great White Hope in front of what looks like a car wreck.
WTAF?
@ eaglesoars:
I’d love to sit down and drink some whiskey with Bob Mueller on nights like this and ask some questions, but I might get indicted.
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
I’d love to sit down and drink some whiskey with Bob Mueller on nights like this and ask some questions while he’s hooked up to a car battery
the dems look old…and tired.
coldwarrior wrote:
#metoo
hannity is over. nite.
@ Calo:
Hi Calo! How’s life? Are your stores up and running again?
…americans are dreamers too…
that was the kill shot
‘terrorists are unlawful enemy combatants…’
this is a very important
eaglesoars wrote:
that was quite a speech.
This is not George Bush’s or John Boehner’s Republican Party. This is Trump’s GOP, as he demonstrated in spades in his first formal State of the Union address.
i’ll still welcome our nevertrumers back, maybe. after some penance.
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
Dennis Kucinich was the fruitcake from Cleveland babbling about UFOs and what not a dozen years ago. Dad was right. They should put a fence around Clevenland not let anyone out.
coldwarrior wrote:
Good morning. That was the money quote.
coldwarrior wrote:
And a teensy bit of groveling. Just the groveling they were demanding of us as they lectured us on how terrible Trump was going to be.
morning y’all
@ doriangrey:
Yes, some groveling as well.
rain of lead wrote:
Someone forgot to turn on the global warming.
Forget the SOTU speech, some guy named Kellerman on ESPN has focused on the real problem.
And that is the Notre Dame moniker Fighting Irish and the pugilistic leprechaun mascot.
He made his bona fides cause his father was an Irish cop or something. He admits that most people of Irish
ancestory like the nickname and mascot, but some people might be offended, so the name and mascot must go!
It is some kind of moral imperative. I am of the Celtic persuasion as is most of my family and a lot of friends.
Everybody that I know likes it, there is no issue. Why doesn’t ESPN get out of the Social Justice business and deal with sports?
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/01/31/stop-the-presses-washington-post-changes-front-page-after-complaints-it-was-too-pro-trump/
@ Twitchy
This is rich, SJW’S cow WaPo into changing their SOTU headline. Dieviation will not be allowed.
RIX wrote:
nah, deviancy is their stock in trade
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/photo-dreamers-state-union-watch-party-hang-dream-act-poster-pres-trump-violently-attacked/
@ Gateway Pundit
Dreamers at a SOTU watch party hang a poster of Trump being violently attacked.
That’ s how to influence him. Strange behavior for a group of valedictorians and Afghan war vets./
eaglesoars wrote:
Of a certain variety yes.
Curtis Houck
✔
@CurtisHouck
The liberal media have egg on their faces – new @CNN snap poll showed 70% had either a “very positive” or “somewhat positive” reaction to Trump’s #SOTU speech tonight #TTT
https://twitter.com/OscarWildeGrey/status/958727007260631041
@ RIX:
It’s all that pro-Trump media.
https://twitter.com/OscarWildeGrey/status/958741179390136320
right_wing2 wrote:
Absolutely
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/01/31/the-gods-are-talking-twisted-trolls-rejoice-in-deadly-train-crash-because-gop-is-trash/
@ Twitchy
A lot of Democrat supporters are celebrating the train accident. Nice people./
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/01/31/i-cant-stop-watching-this-video-of-joe-manchin-at-the-sotu-could-be-the-funniest-moment-of-the-night/
@ Twitchy
Last night joe Manchin is not sure if he can stand for a Trump comment, sooooo.
@ RIX:
manchin needs to switch parties or be voted out
pathetic.
*stolen*
“Don’t call them illegal firearms”, call them “undocumented weapons”,
and let them live in sanctuary homes.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Trey Gowdy is quitting. dammit
coldwarrior wrote:
good. Kristol is going to get that shoved up and down various orifices for the rest of his miserable life.
coldwarrior wrote:
I think he’d feel better if he did. I saw that last nite and I bet the guy feels trapped.
May to REJECT transitional deal: Britain will say NO to EU free movement demands
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/911773/brexit-news-uk-latest-eu-theresa-may-freedom-of-movement
eaglesoars wrote:
maybe he’s going somewhere that he can do some good
right now he’s lotta bark and little bite
would prefer it the other way around
@ rain of lead:
He said something about going to the judicial/justice side. If this guy wants an appointment to a court….I could see him on SCOTUS. And if they decide another special counsel is needed…just sayin
@ eaglesoars:
trey gowdy on scotus…every lib in America would erupt like vesuvus
*stolen*
We should start writing “Luis Gutierrez (D- Guadalajara)”
eaglesoars wrote:
Deleted tweet about the train-truck crash because there may be a fatality.
https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/958750830894764032
the innernut is forever, sucker
why am I not surprised
The prominent Swiss academic Tariq Ramadan, a professor of contemporary Islamic studies at the University of Oxford, has been taken into custody by French police following accusations of rape.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/31/oxford-professor-tariq-ramadan-taken-into-custody-by-french-police
heh
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/black-lives-matter-antifa-vow-target-super-bowl-lii/
On Monday, banners were dropped by members of Black Lives Matter and Antifa during the Super Bowl LII’s media event warning that “#WeReadyWeComin.”
about that popcorn….
Calo wrote:
In other places on Earth it was called ‘Health Stamps’ until the whole shebang was absorbed by general taxation. ‘Heath Stamps were run as a separate account in government and ‘encouraged’ government to be proactive in ensuring the general population was leading healthy lives ….. and therefore costing the State less to fix when they got sick. The account ALWAYS needed ‘topping up’!
🙂
eaglesoars wrote:
I’m sure his barman recognises him!
🙂
He looks totally shickered.
🙂
Calo wrote:
Smart thing to do!
🙂
Calo wrote:
Correct.
@ rain of lead:
it’s the only way Gooddell is going to put asses in those seats
coldwarrior wrote:
Yes he does. Several years back he was losing to a Republican. I was in Charleston WVA on a business trip and
it was clear that Manchin was going down. A little later some kind of scandal was alleged against the Republican
and that was that.
whoops
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/01/31/nashville-mayor-megan-barry-admits-extramarital-relationship/1085057001/
Barry hesitated when asked whether she plans to resign, but said she will not, despite rumors swirling Wednesday that she might step down. She also said she won’t be taking a leave of absence and would be in the mayor’s office Thursday. She said she doesn’t believe the relationship violated any Metro ethics laws or guidelines
well of course it didn’t
@ rain of lead:
politics is an almost impossible life for most people.
HOLD THE PHONE.
Mueller has just gone to court and requested a delay in the sentencing of Michael Flynn ‘Due to the status of the Special Counsel’s investigation’.
Filing:
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4364040/1-31-18-Flynn-Status-Report.pdf
Conservative Tree House Commentary:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/31/robert-mueller-requests-postponement-of-general-mike-flynn-sentencing/
@ lobo91:
it amazes me that no matter what Trump says or does, these people always assume something else is behind it. They hear so many dog whistles they should be getting rabies shots.
Adam Schiff has just come out with an accusation that Nunes has made material changes to the memo that were not approved by the committee.
Uh huh.
I have no idea when Nunes is supposed to have done this as the damn thing is kept under SCIF conditions.
Schiff is sweating alien blood.
bedtime. nite.
Just coming up to news time and lo and behold a ‘fever’ of large stingrays cruised not 100 yards off the beach and about 120 yards away from our house.. They ranged from 7 feet down to 4-5 feet and there must have been a couple of dozen of them. Probably feeding on Kawai driven inshore by the king tides and crappy weather we are having.
🙂
Wonderful sight
🙂
whats for dinner?
(hint)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2Gq5kPZLPw
new thread