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  • Aretha Franklin Is “Gravely Ill”, and The Repose of Iron Fist

    by coldwarrior ( 114 Comments › )
    Filed under Music, Open thread at August 13th, 2018 - 12:52 am

    This is going to be a huge loss.

    This is exclusive, and heart breaking for me and for the family and friends of the great Aretha Franklin. She is gravely ill in Detroit. The family is asking for prayers and privacy.

    Originally diagnosed with cancer in 2010, Aretha, who turned 76 in March, bravely battled back and refused to be knocked out by illness. Her last performance as on November 2, 2017 for the Elton John AIDS Foundation in New York. Her final public performance was at Philadelphia’s Mann Center in August 2017. It was a miraculous show as Aretha was already then fighting exhaustion and dehydration.

    Aretha is surrounded by family and people close to her. She will be so missed as a mother, sister, friend, cousin. But her legacy is larger than life. It’s not just that Rolling Stone called her the number 1 singer of all time, or that she is the Queen of Soul. Long live the Queen.

    More to come…

    I grew up on her and the rest of Motown, my parents had all the vinyl and played it when the mood was good and happy…It’s gonna be a sad day.

    And, of most importance, we lost Iron Fist two years ago this night…what would he say now?

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    114 Responses to “Aretha Franklin Is “Gravely Ill”, and The Repose of Iron Fist”
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    1. 1 | August 13, 2018 1:11 am

      Dang.

      I came over to the Mothership for some snark, found this.

      Dang.


    2. 2 | August 13, 2018 1:14 am

      Completely unrelated, but we have a poll…

      https://thediaryofdaedalus.com/2018/08/12/a-johnson-talks-about-a-wang/


    3. coldwarrior
      3 | August 13, 2018 1:15 am

      @ Bunk X:
      i know IF wouldn’t want us to be sad and without snark.


    4. 4 | August 13, 2018 1:25 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      True.

      Sorry I’ve been gone so long, but glad to see things are still moving around these parts.


    5. coldwarrior
      5 | August 13, 2018 1:29 am

      @ Bunk X:
      i had to slick 50 the hard drive…


    6. 6 | August 13, 2018 1:30 am

      @ Bunk X:
      Not sure if I told you, but Bunkarina passed her boards and is a licensed RN. Not bad for a 27 yo.


    7. 7 | August 13, 2018 1:35 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      Been there. Had to dump my XP for Windows 10. Not fun at all.


    8. coldwarrior
      8 | August 13, 2018 1:37 am

      ill be posting more as my new gig pays nicely. wont have to work as many days. gotta clear some debt and get ready to add on to the house. my contractor neighbor and i have been mulling size and scope, should be two rooms, kitchen below and bedroom above, 28 by 20 each with basement/garage underneath..1200 square feet in total on the living floors.

      i’ve drawn up the kitchen to my specs. Escoffier would be proud.


    9. coldwarrior
      9 | August 13, 2018 1:38 am

      Bunk X wrote:

      @ Bunk X:
      Not sure if I told you, but Bunkarina passed her boards and is a licensed RN. Not bad for a 27 yo.

      WOOOT!!!

      thats a hard board. congrats!


    10. 10 | August 13, 2018 1:38 am

      @ Bunk X:
      Bunkessa still has her bus driver license, so she’s busing around the invalid parents of Hollywood celebrities.


    11. 11 | August 13, 2018 1:43 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      Still recuperating from a year-long dry spell. It was horrible. I’m too old for this shit, but I’m too young to afford to retire. One of these days I’ll figure it out.


    12. coldwarrior
      12 | August 13, 2018 1:44 am

      Bunk X wrote:

      @ Bunk X:
      Bunkessa still has her bus driver license, so she’s busing around the invalid parents of Hollywood celebrities.

      in what area does she want to work
      (hopes for ER… 😉 )


    13. 13 | August 13, 2018 1:48 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      She’s still aiming for pharmacy. She had a tough time with chemistry, but got a degree with the intention of pursuing continuing edumacation.


    14. coldwarrior
      14 | August 13, 2018 1:48 am

      Bunk X wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      Still recuperating from a year-long dry spell. It was horrible. I’m too old for this shit, but I’m too young to afford to retire. One of these days I’ll figure it out.

      we need more room. the house is on a great piece of property overlooking the ohio river. the view is worth the expansion. i cant not have it, so moving is not an option. i have to have my train set, the barges, and the lights from the towns at night.

      the only way o would move is to go to where we vacation bay side in NJ…250k gets us there. maybe later on…


    15. coldwarrior
      15 | August 13, 2018 1:48 am

      @ Bunk X:
      ahhh…smart move.


    16. Calo
      16 | August 13, 2018 1:49 am

      @ Bunk X:
      I’m dragging my youngster to Corpus Christi Thursday for a Looksie at their nursing school for Spring admission.

      She’s ready, but is afraid to leave home. Her science grades are 4.0 and overall GPA is 3.5 so it should be easy to get into any nursing school.

      It’s time, I’m ok now after losing my son, and so is she.

      She needs to forge on.


    17. coldwarrior
      18 | August 13, 2018 1:56 am

      Calo wrote:

      It’s time, I’m ok now after losing my son, and so is she.

      this is the best news


    18. 19 | August 13, 2018 2:01 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      Refresh my memory! I grew up in the Montgomery / Blue Ash area.


    19. 20 | August 13, 2018 2:04 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      My uncle was a hospital administrator. When I told him of Bunkessa’s plans his eyes opened and said that Pharmacists are very respected because they help the patients feel good while healing. I’d never thought of it that way.


    20. 21 | August 13, 2018 2:07 am

      @ Calo:
      You both had a rough time. Watching it unfold bothered the hell out of me, but there was nothing I could do about it.


    21. coldwarrior
      22 | August 13, 2018 2:11 am

      Bunk X wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      Refresh my memory! I grew up in the Montgomery / Blue Ash area.

      so, if you look at a map of beaver county, i sit just before where the ohio goes from flowing north to where it flows west. the river curves away from me. looking at the map, i can see from aliquippa to the county seat of beaver…almost 10 miles in total


    22. coldwarrior
      23 | August 13, 2018 2:23 am

      @ Bunk X:
      and they keep patients safe.


    23. coldwarrior
      24 | August 13, 2018 2:29 am

      signing off, the perseid motor shower has started. gonna have a nice martini and a cigar and watch the show.


    24. 25 | August 13, 2018 2:37 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      Sorry. Been gone too long. Forgot you’re a yinzer.


    25. Buckeye Abroad
      26 | August 13, 2018 3:48 am

      @ coldwarrior:

      I took 5 minutes on Google maps and think have your neighborhood identified. Nice from the satellite photo.


    26. RIX
      27 | August 13, 2018 8:55 am

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/08/12/orca-mom-releases-dead-calf-two-weeks-later/972143002/
      @ USA Today
      This is a really interesting animal story.
      Oh and, RIP Iron Fist.


    27. 28 | August 13, 2018 8:56 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      i have to have my train set, the barges, and the lights from the towns at night.

      ROTFLMAO… If only everyone here knew just how true this statement is.


    28. 29 | August 13, 2018 9:24 am

      Stupid power keeps going out. Nobody knows why.


    29. RIX
      31 | August 13, 2018 1:28 pm

      Peter Strozk has been fired. Now for a book deal and gig on MSNBC.


    30. RIX
      32 | August 13, 2018 1:36 pm

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/president-trump-rips-into-peter-strzok-after-hes-fired-calls-for-hillary-sham-investigation-to-be-properly-redone/
      @ GP
      On the Heels of the Strozk firing Trump calls to reopen the Hillary investigation.
      You know that would lead to Obama.


    31. coldwarrior
      33 | August 13, 2018 4:58 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      i have to have my train set, the barges, and the lights from the towns at night.

      ROTFLMAO… If only everyone here knew just how true this statement is.

      lol


    32. coldwarrior
      34 | August 13, 2018 4:59 pm

      @ RIX:
      Yet another life ruined by the Clintons. I hope he ends up in a van down by the river.


    33. eaglesoars
      35 | August 13, 2018 6:01 pm

      just a reminder of how malign the people in the Obama admin were. Arne Duncan. Sec. Education. The first thing the SOB did when he got into town was kill the voucher pgm to suck up to the teachers union.

      I’m surfing the channels and there he is on BBC America saying: We don’t train our teachers as professionals, blah blah blah blah, and I’m sorry to say in our country we don’t care about our children

      I hope I get to run him over with my car.


    34. Aussie Infidel
      36 | August 13, 2018 6:03 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ RIX:
      Yet another life ruined by the Clintons. I hope he ends up in a van down by the river.

      … in the river!

      🙂


    35. eaglesoars
      38 | August 13, 2018 6:42 pm

      @ yenta-fada:

      didn’t McCabe do that?


    36. Possum
      39 | August 13, 2018 6:48 pm

      As instructed by “She who WILL be obeyed” I checked out that Corpus Christi School of Nursing.

      It meets with my approval, there is an Indian restaurant six miles from the campus.

      https://www.facebook.com/RoyalIndiaCC/

      Also, it is only 200 miles from me, about 3 hours, so if I left home at 9am I could have lunch with my friend and still be back home before dark.

      So, I approve of this choice of learning institution.

      However, that Indian resturant is bloody expensive as compared to our one in little old Houston town.

      Plain Tandoori Naan $3 in Corpus Christi, $1.50 Houston

      Chicken Tikka Masala $15.99 in CC, $8.99 Houston

      Shrimp Biryani $20.39 in CC, $10.99 Houston

      I wonder what the general cost of living in CC is as opposed to Houston.

      Just a thought, I only compared two restaurants and it is double in Corpus Christi.


    37. Possum
      40 | August 13, 2018 6:54 pm

      Bunk X wrote:

      @ Calo:
      You both had a rough time. Watching it unfold bothered the hell out of me, but there was nothing I could do about it.

      Hold my beer Bunk,

      I got this…..


    38. Deplorable Bumr50
      41 | August 13, 2018 7:25 pm

      @ Possum:

      But its the birthplace of Whataburger…


    39. lobo91
      42 | August 13, 2018 7:41 pm

      @ Possum:

      I’ll bet the prices go down after Labor Day. Corpus Christi is a summer town. If you go there in the fall or winter, it’s a ghost town.


    40. RIX
      43 | August 13, 2018 9:12 pm

      https://thegatewaypundit.us17.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a1f9b29171f5fb45edb2520ae&id=1f2f268969&e=d43a186674
      @ GP
      Agent Strozk sets up Go Fund Me page. This is not the Onion.


    41. AZfederalist
      44 | August 13, 2018 9:17 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ RIX:
      Yet another life ruined by the Clintons. I hope he ends up in a van down by the river.

      He willingly participated. Don’t have a lot of sympathy for that.


    42. yenta-fada
      45 | August 13, 2018 9:24 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ yenta-fada:

      didn’t McCabe do that?

      Yes. He raised over $500,000 in a few days & closed it down. Strozk
      is already over $88,000 now. There are a lot of Trump haters out there. The great national rift.


    43. RIX
      46 | August 13, 2018 9:26 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ RIX:
      Yet another life ruined by the Clintons. I hope he ends up in a van down by the river.

      The Clinton’s are greedy amoral grifters.


    44. lobo91
      47 | August 13, 2018 9:27 pm

      Helios Helium
      ‏ @heliosiamallfa1
      Replying to @realDonaldTrump @JohnKasich

      Strzok wasn’t fired just for his anti-Trump text messages. I discovered that he had the regular practice of taking his cell phone into the @FBI’s Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility. I gave the proof to the @FBIWFO. @DeepStateExpose


    45. AZfederalist
      48 | August 13, 2018 9:28 pm

      yenta-fada wrote:

      Yes. He raised over $500,000 in a few days & closed it down. Strozk
      is already over $88,000 now. There are a lot of Trump haters out there. The great national rift.

      Well that gets him through this year, but people, even Never-Trumpers, scratch that, especially NeverTrumpers are going to get tired of spending their own money on somebody else for essentially welfare.


    46. eaglesoars
      49 | August 13, 2018 9:59 pm

      Jennifer Griffen – who actually IS a journalist – gives a rundown of the new defense spending bill

      Vlad is sitting in the Kremlin ” What the actual….?”

      https://pjmedia.com/trending/fox-news-jennifer-griffin-takes-70-seconds-to-offer-the-best-explanation-youll-hear-of-how-defense-bill-sticks-it-to-russia/


    47. lobo91
      50 | August 13, 2018 10:11 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      But remember, Trump is Putin’s puppet…


    48. eaglesoars
      51 | August 13, 2018 10:40 pm

      @ lobo91:

      people don’t remember – or even know – how Reagan broke the USSR. Star Wars. It never mattered whether it actually worked. What mattered is that they HAD to try to keep up to keep their power.

      And it bankrupted them.

      Russia will go first, then China. But go they will. The EU is caught by the short hairs because they’re going to have to spread their legs for Vlad in order to prove they’re not toadies of that vulgarian Trump. Vlad has turned off the taps before, he’ll do it again. If Poland plays their cards right, Trump will see they make out like bandits. Warsaw will be Paris with pierogies


    49. AZfederalist
      52 | August 13, 2018 11:07 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Warsaw will be Paris with pierogies

      Well, that’s good, because the way Eurostan is going, Paris isn’t going to be Paris with or without pierogies


    50. 53 | August 13, 2018 11:07 pm

      @ doriangrey:
      Meerkats.


    51. 54 | August 13, 2018 11:12 pm

      @ Possum:
      😀 :O 😛


    52. eaglesoars
      55 | August 13, 2018 11:13 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      Yeah, I think it’s already done. As is London. Actually, I have more hope for the French. I don’t think their cops are corrupted. The cops in London are completely neutered.


    53. 56 | August 13, 2018 11:19 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Bobbies on bicycles two-by-two.


    54. 57 | August 13, 2018 11:27 pm

      Bunk X wrote:

      @ doriangrey:
      Meerkats.

      About as good an explanation as I’ve heard so far.


    55. 58 | August 13, 2018 11:30 pm

      “Criminals never want to be filmed.”
      https://youtu.be/o2oBXWiKwZI


    56. 59 | August 13, 2018 11:32 pm

      @ doriangrey:
      Cutesy little standy-uppy weasel-lookin’ bastards.


    57. 60 | August 13, 2018 11:37 pm

      Bunk X wrote:

      @ doriangrey:
      Cutesy little standy-uppy weasel-lookin’ bastards.

      Democrats no doubt.


    58. 61 | August 13, 2018 11:39 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      Bunk X wrote:

      @ doriangrey:
      Cutesy little standy-uppy weasel-lookin’ bastards.

      Democrats no doubt.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a6YdNmK77k


    59. 62 | August 13, 2018 11:51 pm

      @ doriangrey:
      Classic Hope For Change.


    60. 63 | August 13, 2018 11:54 pm

      @ doriangrey:
      You getting any ass from the fires down there?


    61. 64 | August 14, 2018 12:02 am

      Bunk X wrote:

      @ doriangrey:
      You getting any ass from the fires down there?

      I always make it a very specific point to not get any ass from any fire. That’s taking getting burned in a relationship a bit far even for me.


    62. 65 | August 14, 2018 12:12 am

      @ doriangrey:
      Friends say their cars are getting dusted, but mine’s too dirty to tell. I’m saving water for the fire fighters and the planet. I want people on the 405 to think I’m commuting from Lake Elsinore.

      BTW, “fire truck” is a misnomer. It shows up with hose and pumps, puts out your fire for free. We used to call them sluts.


    63. lobo91
      66 | August 14, 2018 12:21 am

      So, I just checked on the subwoofer I ordered for my Mountaineer. This is what UPS shows:

      Monday, August 13
      6:43 PM
      Package arrived at a carrier facility
      Albuquerque, NM US

      6:18 PM
      Package has left the carrier facility
      Albuquerque, NM US

      5:35 PM
      Package arrived at a carrier facility
      Albuquerque, NM US

      5:15 PM
      Package has left the carrier facility
      Albuquerque, NM US

      5:00 PM
      Package arrived at a carrier facility
      Albuquerque, NM US

      Either it keeps escaping and they keep recapturing it and bringing it back, or the world’s worst UPS driver is bringing it here.


    64. 67 | August 14, 2018 12:31 am

      @ lobo91:
      Or maybe they’re telling the truth and there are dozens of carrier facilities in Albuquerque within a block of each other.


    65. Deplorable Bumr50
      68 | August 14, 2018 12:46 am

      @ lobo91:

      They’re using your subwoofer to traffic cocaine for two days before giving it to you.

      Kind of like a bank earning interest on your paycheck for a day…


    66. 69 | August 14, 2018 12:51 am

      @ Deplorable Bumr50:
      Meerkats…


    67. 70 | August 14, 2018 1:55 am

      https://youtu.be/cGXU7268Z50


    68. coldwarrior
      71 | August 14, 2018 4:36 am

      @ lobo91:

      i know what that is. if you read it from bottom to top its a destination scan into the facility, then it got sorted wrongly to the outbound trailer where it was caught by a scan from the loader, then it went to QC where the label and the addy were rechecked, the 618 scan makes no sense, then the 643 scan places is back into the sort. now, if this is a smartpost package the “Package arrived at a carrier facility” could be the scan to get it to the post office, but since its a heavy, i’m gonna bet it comes via ups and that there is extra writing on the box from QC to fix the error.

      this arrived via trailer and went to the belts on the outbound sort, outbound gets all of the packages from the terminal into the ups system and on to the hubs. in that sort are packages that stay in the terminal as well and are all collected up into a trailer for hold until the inbound/pre-load early AM shift where the package cars are loaded for the day. on that shift, the ‘local’ trailer that never leaves the load door is unloaded and the boxes go to the package cars for delivery.

      simple!

      😆


    69. 72 | August 14, 2018 7:27 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      simple!

      Well, it certainly would be simple… IF you could convince anyone on earth that UPS has a QC department.


    70. 73 | August 14, 2018 8:06 am

      See, I was right…. It can rain too much even in Pennsylvania.

      https://twitter.com/joegooding/status/1029093803372752897


    71. RIX
      74 | August 14, 2018 8:38 am

      https://www.11alive.com/video/news/crime/new-mexico-compound-suspects-granted-bond/85-8219272

      If you suspect that things have gone sideways this will remove all doubt.
      The Muslim dudes that ran the New Mexico compound made bail!


    72. RIX
      75 | August 14, 2018 9:12 am

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/14/donald-trump-omarosa-maniault-newman-attacks/984821002/
      @ USA Today
      Trump sparks outrage calling Omarosa a dog. Why? You guessed it, referring to a black person as a dog is
      now raaaacist.
      So I thought about it, Lassie was an African American living with a white farm family.
      Celebrate diversity!


    73. lobo91
      76 | August 14, 2018 9:22 am

      @ coldwarrior:

      It’s not a smart post shipment. They’re delivering it to the house.

      I’ve never seen that many scans in a row like that before.


    74. eaglesoars
      77 | August 14, 2018 9:34 am

      Salena Zito has an interesting piece from Cannonsburg PA (that’s a south hills burg of Pittsburgh for all you non-yinzers, just down Rt 19 from Mt Lebo and Upper St Clair)

      Fracking, it turns out, is the one high-tech industry not embraced by politicians in Pittsburgh who are rushing to embrace the likes of Uber and Google

      Why? Because local progressive Democrats, very vocal climate activists, and the burgeoning Democratic Socialists of America party demand a wholesale repudiation of the natural gas industry. Local Democratic officials thus have to oppose fracking or risk losing in a Democratic primary.

      Because Dems ARE the dumbest knives in the drawer. If they’re even in the drawer. I’m not sure anymore.

      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/while-politicians-court-google-and-uber-fracking-industry-offers-a-different-sort-of-high-tech-job


    75. 78 | August 14, 2018 9:45 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Because Dems ARE the dumbest knives in the drawer. If they’re even in the drawer. I’m not sure anymore.

      They’re not in the drawer, they’re buried in the garden out back rusting away. Already forgotten and soon to be nothing more than an artifact to be uncovered by future archeologists thousands of years from now.


    76. 79 | August 14, 2018 10:15 am

      RIX wrote:

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/14/donald-trump-omarosa-maniault-newman-attacks/984821002/
      @ USA Today
      Trump sparks outrage calling Omarosa a dog. Why? You guessed it, referring to a black person as a dog is
      now raaaacist.
      So I thought about it, Lassie was an African American living with a white farm family.
      Celebrate diversity!

      Trump was just being polite actually.
      He would have liked to be more specific.
      And call her a BITCH.


    77. 80 | August 14, 2018 10:17 am

      Waiting to see what Judge Ellis does today.
      From what I gather, there is a sealed motion and sealed reply before him. I’m assuming that might be the Rule 29 motion for an acquittal.

      Manafort should have asked for a bench trial. I think Ellis would NOT have convicted him based on the evidence so far.


    78. eaglesoars
      81 | August 14, 2018 10:21 am

      A very neat, clear piece on why the story of a great Chinese economy HAS to be bullpucky.

      The most egregious flaw in China’s statistics is the savings rate. For decades we have been told that the Chinese people are extraordinary savers, with a savings rate of some 46% of GDP, according to the latest figures, compared with around 6.8% of GDP (Itself a figure recently and dubiously inflated by the Bureau of Economic Analysis) in the United States. Touchingly sentimental pictures are painted of the noble impoverished Chinese, earning one fiftieth of a Western wage but nevertheless saving nearly half of that pittance, seven times the American rate of saving, because of the country’s notorious lack of social services for the elderly.

      If China really had a savings rate of 46%, the economy would look quite different. There would be very little debt in the system; the banks would have a very low loans to deposits ratio and low leverage, like banks in nineteenth century Britain. Consumer debt would be almost non-existent, while the Chinese market would have an enormous variety of saving and investment schemes, to take care of all the accumulated wealth. New company formation would be very high, but “venture capital” would be very scarce, because new companies would be capitalized from the savings of the founders’ relatives and friends. Overall, China might well have a rapid growth rate, but it would be a very contented, stable economy.

      A recent Financial Times examination of China’s economy illustrates the problem; it shows consumer debt almost doubling as a share of GDP, from roughly 20% to 40% in the last five years

      doubled in five years? yowza.

      https://www.tbwns.com/2018/08/13/the-bears-lair-chinas-coming-austrian-collapse/


    79. eaglesoars
      82 | August 14, 2018 10:24 am

      @ The Barbarian:

      oh HAAII!!

      I heard a lawyer yesterday say that these sealed motion things happen all the time. I don’t think Ellis is going to let Manafort walk. I think he’s going to trust to the jury to acquit him because if Ellis does it, there will always be a cloud over his head about a ‘judge in his pocket’ or something. Ellis obviously despises the prosecutors, but that doesn’t mean there’s any love lost for Manafort.


    80. eaglesoars
      83 | August 14, 2018 10:28 am

      oh lookee here! You know that defense budge Trump signed yesterday? Think Vlad is pissed? Well, guess who isn’t getting any F-35s in the near/distant furture? tsk tsk

      Daily Sabah: Trump approves defense budget delaying delivery of F-35 warplanes to NATO ally Turkey

      http://www.blogmocracy.com/2018/08/13/aretha-franklin-is-gravely-ill/#comment-15589


    81. 84 | August 14, 2018 11:18 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      Hi back! I have trouble getting this site on my iPad – been busy with the new granddaughter – and desperately trying to sleep.

      That’s a good point – Mueller’s already filed a complaint about the judge. I think Ellis DID see something in that charging memo that’s made him annoyed but he can’t say anything because “classified.” I’ve heard the defense is planning to call either the FBI agent or the AUSA that declined to prosecute Manafort after the original investigation. And I hope he hammers home the number of people who were granted IMMUNITY just to testify in this trial.

      I still maintain Mueller got caught with his pants down on this one. I’m sure he never believed that this would ever make it as far as opening statements, believing Manafort would turn on Trump. The problem for Mueller, of course, is that there is NOTHING for these people to give him because there was no collusion.

      But I would not put it past Mueller to suborn perjury – he’s done it before. The left is dancing about the “indictments” and the “guilty pleas” and the “trials” – but where is the collusion? (Which isn’t even a crime).

      I would seriously like to dropkick Rosenweasel over the Washington Monument; that little snake in the grass is behind all of this.


    82. 85 | August 14, 2018 12:53 pm

      I find it interesting that both McCabe and Strzok have turned to “GoFundMe” as a source of income. I mean, since when do fired and literally disgraced public servants then turn to crowdfunding when their reputation is in tatters?

      Which makes my little conspiratorial mind wander…..GoFundMe allows for “Anonymous” donations, which means that it could definitely be used as a Laundromat for a payoff. Small donations – $500 every four hours from differing Anonymous sources, let’s say….and soon Strzok has real money. And none of it traceable back to the people who are paying him off….for keeping the Clintons safe.


    83. 86 | August 14, 2018 12:57 pm

      Manafort’s defense “rested” without putting on a single witness.

      “Popehat” explains it all here:

      https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/08/14/bold-strategy-the-paul-manafort-trial-just-took-a-very-interesting-turn/


    84. RIX
      88 | August 14, 2018 1:22 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      RIX wrote:

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/14/donald-trump-omarosa-maniault-newman-attacks/984821002/
      @ USA Today
      Trump sparks outrage calling Omarosa a dog. Why? You guessed it, referring to a black person as a dog is
      now raaaacist.
      So I thought about it, Lassie was an African American living with a white farm family.
      Celebrate diversity!

      Trump was just being polite actually.
      He would have liked to be more specific.
      And call her a BITCH.

      Exactly right, he pulled his punch.


    85. eaglesoars
      89 | August 14, 2018 1:41 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      been busy with the new granddaughter

      whoa! I missed that one, congrats! What’s her name?

      But I would not put it past Mueller to suborn perjury

      not to mention throwing people he knew to be innocent in jail and letting them die there.

      GoFundMe allows for “Anonymous” donations, which means that it could definitely be used as a Laundromat for a payoff.

      Can you spell ‘subpoena’, I know you can!

      As for the Manafort defense not calling witnesses – yep. Who ya gonna call? As far as I can tell, the prosecution witnesses were pretty much butchered and ended up doing nothing but making Manafort look like a small fish in a big pond, Ellis made it clear he thinks the prosecution sucks canal water. The prosecution did the defense’s job for them.


    86. eaglesoars
      90 | August 14, 2018 2:15 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      https://www.weaselzippers.us/393946-omarosa-was-a-horrible-employee-for-the-clinton-admin-too/

      so where’s the other tape/rest of the tape she’s been talking about? The one where she’s getting fired and the lawyers are talking to her?

      This woman is mentally deranged and should be institutionalized. Katrina Pierson let a nice one slip last nite. She said she felt sorry for her because she ‘had to buy a fake engagement ring’.

      There’s a pic of the ring is this article. She’s actually wearing 5 rings, the engagement ring surrounded by 4 bands w/pave (apparent) diamonds

      https://people.com/style/omarosa-engagement-ring-photo-wedding-details/


    87. RIX
      91 | August 14, 2018 2:21 pm

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/boom-rudy-giuliani-mueller-team-committed-crimes-john-brennan-should-be-before-grand-jury-video/
      @ GP
      According to Rudy the uber corrupt hack in the Russia hoax is none other than Brennan.
      I do hope that they can prove it.


    88. 92 | August 14, 2018 2:28 pm

      @ RIX:

      There have been many reports on FBI and other agency agents and employees that have been wanting to appear before Congress to testify about what they knew was going on regarding this entire Russia investigation and frame up of Trump. But the agency management has refused to let them appear or Congress hasn’t called them.

      It would not surprise me in the least if those same agents didn’t meet with someone from the Trump Administration and give them some sort of documentary or other evidence of the real source of the COLLUSION in the campaign.


    89. 93 | August 14, 2018 3:13 pm

      Oh Lord…NOW Assorama is claiming that Trump knew about the email hack of the DNC before Wikileaks announced it (yet fails to mention it in her book). She’s really, really hoping Mueller will call her. I hope he does – those two congenital liars deserve each other.

      https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/08/14/is-anyone-buying-omarosas-bold-claim-about-donald-trump-and-hillary-clintons-emails-video/

      I’m starting to think that title “Unhinged” refers to the author, not the subject.


    90. eaglesoars
      94 | August 14, 2018 3:34 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      or Congress hasn’t called them.

      there is your problem.

      Trump had better start declassifying docs after the midterms

      I think it would be terrific if Mueller and Omarosa started dating. She’d make a fool out of him, then he’d turn on her and ruin her financially. Something tells me a GoFundMe plea wouldn’t do her much good


    91. coldwarrior
      95 | August 14, 2018 5:49 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Fracking has revolutionized the counties north of idiotburg. PGH had a moron hipster mayor and the rest of Allegheny Co is run by wanna be San Fransicans.

      Wealth for the chosen elite only. It ok tho, more for us up here in the real world.


    92. rain of lead
      96 | August 14, 2018 6:43 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      whay do you always say

      “war by other means”

      https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/08/14/nervous-pandas-get-twitchy-watching-shrinking-bamboo-forest/

      It’s not a bluff; it’s never a bluff…. He doesn’t bluff.

      If the trade war escalates — and Mr. Trump has shown no sign of backing down — some worry that the {china’s} public’s faith in the economy could be shaken, exposing the nation to much more serious problems than a drop in exports. New economic data on Tuesday showed slower growth in investment and consumer spending, and there are fears that the financial crisis in Turkey could spread


    93. 97 | August 14, 2018 7:05 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      Allegheny Co is run by wanna be San Fransicans.

      They sure picked a great urban role model then – I’m sure they’re looking forward to compiling their own Poop Maps, and bans of plastic bags and straws.


    94. eaglesoars
      98 | August 14, 2018 7:09 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      New economic data on Tuesday showed slower growth in investment and consumer spending,

      Every stat coming out of China is a lie. Even if they wanted to tell the truth, they wouldn’t know how because they’ve been lying to each other for so long, they don’t know what’s true and what isn’t.

      Look at my #81 – consumer DEBT has doubled in 5 years.

      What can’t go on, won’t.


    95. eaglesoars
      99 | August 14, 2018 7:47 pm

      This is a really good article on John Correia. I didn’t know he has youtube videos showing real life situations and how to defend against them

      “Every situation is a snowflake,” he says. “But the same principles show up again and again. All I do is to teach people and give them a vocabulary for what to do.” In Correia’s most popular video, which is from Venezuela, an armed robber approaches his victim, an off-duty cop, in an ATM line. After dropping his wallet and necklace on the ground, the cop falls back, lets the mugger stoop to pick up the loot, and takes advantage of his distraction to draw a pistol and shoot the criminal four times. There are “some significant lessons here,” Correia says.

      ya think?

      https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/09/john-correia-self-defense/565739/


    96. rain of lead
      100 | August 14, 2018 7:49 pm

      It’s not a compound in New Mexico. It’s a jihadist compound.

      It’s not a religious extremist. It’s a Muslim extremist.

      It’s not “some man.” It’s the son of an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombings.

      There. Fixed it for you, liberals.


    97. Possum
      101 | August 14, 2018 8:13 pm

      I am for NO trade with China at all.

      ZERO. We import NOTHING from China.

      I am in the electronics industry, China dominates the supply of our company’s raw materials.

      I say no more imports of Chinese goods. We have to re-learn the skills to make things in the USA.


    98. eaglesoars
      102 | August 14, 2018 8:36 pm

      @ Possum:

      when you say ‘raw materials’, what exactly are you referring to? And are those materials something we have access to on our own?


    99. eaglesoars
      103 | August 14, 2018 9:53 pm

      Kansas: Kris Kobach won the primary


    100. eaglesoars
      104 | August 14, 2018 9:57 pm

      I’m seeing that now they’ve taken care of Alex Jones and Infowars, the next target is Pam Geller. Youtube has demonitized her

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BmeODHMF9zJ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link


    101. AZfederalist
      105 | August 14, 2018 10:10 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      I’m seeing that now they’ve taken care of Alex Jones and Infowars, the next target is Pam Geller.

      Incrementalism, it’s what fascists and bolsheviks do well. “Nobody will object to us banning Nazi’s and supremacists” to “very few will object to us banning someone who is way out there and a conspiracy theorist” now to “we are now going to ban those who are unapologetic about attacking certain groups even if they offer convincing evidence”


    102. eaglesoars
      106 | August 14, 2018 10:24 pm

      @ AZfederalist:

      yesterday I saw that someone has built a youtube alternative, Utah something or other.


    103. AZfederalist
      107 | August 14, 2018 11:51 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      yesterday I saw that someone has built a youtube alternative, Utah something or other.

      Hopefully it can take off. Gab has been marginal that way


    104. 108 | August 15, 2018 1:30 am

      @ Possum:
      We have better coal.


    105. 109 | August 15, 2018 1:34 am

      @ AZfederalist:
      Last time I was on .GAB I was dogpiled by a bunch of #Pizzagate morons. Figured I’d sit it out for a while and see if it settled down.


    106. 110 | August 15, 2018 1:39 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      I’m seeing that now they’ve taken care of Alex Jones and Infowars, the next target is Pam Geller. Youtube has demonitized her

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BmeODHMF9zJ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

      Yeah, she’s been a target ever since she rejected Charles Johnson’s lip-licking advances.


    107. 111 | August 15, 2018 1:44 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      We have diode mines. China doesn’t.


    108. rain of lead
      112 | August 15, 2018 7:03 am

      @ Bunk X:

      gab has had several updates
      it’s much improved, very simple to mute people who annoy you or clutter up your feed

      drop back by and check them out


    109. coldwarrior
      113 | August 15, 2018 7:22 am

      New thread


    110. 114 | August 15, 2018 7:58 am

      @ Bunk X:
      It took some work but I muted anything pizzagate related.


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