Bob in Breckenridge weighs in on one side of the issue, while Iron Fist gives us the alternative view.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, so please take this thread in the spirit it is intended ~ to debate the issue, not to hate on each other!
Please keep it respectful!
Why Sarah Palin can’t win the Presidency, and why I wish that wasn’t true, but it is what it is
-Bob in Breckenridge
I’ll start out first and foremost by saying that I mean before she serves as VP.
We here at The Blogmocracy have discussed this numerous times in the last two years or so.
I won’t give you a laundry list as to why Palin being elected President isn’t going to happen, and I’ll say right away that it’s not impossible, but it is highly unlikely.
First of all, only one time in U.S. history has a VP candidate, who was selected by a Presidential candidate that lost, been elected President.
That was Franklin Delano Roosevelt in 1932. FDR was the VP candidate for James Cox in 1920, who lost to Republican Warren Harding.
Palin was selected by an extremely weak Presidential candidate, John McCain, who seemed just happy to be there. American hero? Of course! Patriot? Of course! None of us here would deny that. But a conservative? NO WAY! I believe we’d all agree about that.
So, even the press couldn’t really attack McCain because they also knew he was an American hero to most Americans.
But Palin? She was fair game!
We know that to libs, women, like blacks, are only worthy of praise and support if they are liberals. Conservative women are traitors to their sex, and conservative blacks are traitors to their race.
And Palin was attacked, relentlessly and unfairly, especially by the lib swine on “Saturday Night Live”, led by that lib POS Tina Fey, who’s obviously attracted to short, fat, sissy, liberal, girly-men, like her metrosexual midget husband. At least Sarah Palin is married to a real man.
It became so ridiculous that the scumbags in the MSM, in an effort to destroy any credibility Palin had, and in addition to continually lying about her, implying she’s stupid because of her accent and because she didn’t go to an Ivy League school, and digging through her trash cans at her house looking for God knows what, they were actually reporting lines from SNL skits that Fey said as actually being said by Palin, on their newscasts and shows, like Palin saying she was able to see Russia from her house.
What she said was that you can see Russia from some parts of Alaska, which is true.
So no matter how unfair it is, and it is extremely unfair, the damage has already been done to her, which is why I don’t think she can beat Obama, unless something unforeseen happens, or the economy completely collapses.
Unfortunately for her, most people aren’t like we are, where we’re so extremely skeptical of what we hear from the swine in the MSM because they lie so often. And if you think it was bad when she was the VP candidate, you ain’t seen nothing yet, if she decides to challenge their messiah, Obama, in 2012.
In the latest Rasmussen poll, dated February 6th, a look at potential 2012 match-ups shows Palin behind all the other presumed GOP opponents to Obama (at this time), even Ron Paul.
The poll shows that Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee are about even with Obama at this point. Romney is up two points, 44% to 42%, while Huckabee is tied with Obama at 43% each.
I want to stress that I’m not saying that Huckabee or Romney should be our candidate. I hope to God they’re not! They are both RINO’s.
My guess is that it will be a currently sitting governor who is kind of flying under the national radar at this time.
Sarah Palin is down the most, trailing Obama by 11 points, 49% to 38%. Two other candidates I pray are not our nominee, Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich, are currently 9 points down, 44% to 35%, and eight points down, 47% to 39%.
But a lot can happen in the next 18 months or so that can change the playing field.
Obama could become so flawed (he already is to us and already should be to most voters, but there are a lot of stupid people in this country), especially if the economy continues to tank and the unemployment rate does not improve much, that whomever the GOP candidate is could easily defeat him.
There’s also all the events happening now, not only in the middle-east, but also here at home in Wisconsin, Ohio, and Indiana, among other states, where Obama’s lack of leadership skills (or any other real skills, for that matter, other than spending like a drunken liberal, and reading from a TelePrompTer) are obvious to most people not drinking the Obama kool-aid.
But I don’t want us to have to depend on the economy going further south, or staying about where it is now, or world events getting worse, as the only way for us to defeat Obama.
We need to have the strongest candidate possible, so even if the economy improves, our candidate can still persuade the American people that the reason we got into this mess was because of Obama and the democrats, and even some RINO’S, with their out of control spending.
Our candidate needs to be able to clearly explain that our conservative principles of a smaller, less intrusive government, with less spending, and limited taxes, is not only the best, but the fastest and least painful way to dig ourselves out of this hole we’re in.
Am I’m sorry, but in my opinion, that person is not Sarah Palin. Like I said, I wish it wasn’t true.
She’s obviously a conservative in the mold of President Reagan, but that’s not enough, just selecting the most conservative candidate. Look at some of the Senate races last November.
A lot of the Tea Party candidates won the GOP nomination, but lost the election, to what should have been extremely vulnerable democrats. They did not lose because they were conservative, but because they were bad candidates. All our candidates in 2012 have to be electable!
And there’s nothing to indicate, other than if the economy continues to struggle, that Palin could beat Obama in a two candidate race. We’ve had enough flawed candidates.
Help Us, Sarah Palin, You’re Our Only Hope!
-Iron Fist
Sometimes it seems as though the Republicans don’t want to win. This current mess with the unions is a good reference point. Already (already)the pussillanimous GOP has caved in Indinana and Ohio. This is just a symptom of the greater rot in the GOP where they refuse to win. Both Bob Dole and John McCain exemplified this quasi-suicidal pattern. Sarah Palin won’t do that to us. She was the only fire in McCain’s otherwise limp non-campaign. She will bring her seemingly boundless energy to a campaign. She will fight when the going gets nasty. They’ve already come after her family. We’ve seen the worst that they can do, and it hasn’t stopped her. Now they will just be doing more of the same. After a while, people won’t notice it.
The next, and perhaps the most important thing Sahra brings is proven fund-raising capability. She raised millions for SarahPAC for the 2010 elections, and did about as well as anyone picking winners. Yes, there were a couple of well-publicized losers, but that is just the mainstream media attacking Sarah again. SSDD. Not even Dick Morris is right every time. This ability to raise funds will be criticle. Obama will again turn down public financing (public financing should be dead after 2008) and with the power of the Presidencty and the desperation of the Unions he will easily raise a billion dollars to spend. Other than Sarah, who do we have with the name recognition to raise that kind of money? Newt Gingrich? He is a loser six ways from Sundy. Donald Trump? 🙄 Even Sarah will be hard pressed to compete with Obama in fubndraising, but if she can’t do it, then no Republican can. She can bring out the $50 and $100 donations from the people who never donate to political campaigns. Mitt Romney can’t. Those are just the facts of life.
The third compelling reason to pick Sarah Palin as our nominee is that our nominee has to be able to compete with Obama in their personal story. They need a personal story that is compelling and dramatic, but, unklike Obama, one that i sreal. One that normal, average, everyday people can relate to. Sarah Palin exemplifies this. And the Left hate her for it. In everything that she does, Sarah Palin exudes Republican values. She is pro-life, and she brought a son into the world with Downs rather than do the expedient thing and abort him. She is pro-gun, and hunts big game. Unlike John Kerry, she knows how to hold a firearm, and does not look goofy in pictures in the field. She is a fiscal conservative with a track record in Alaska both as mayor of Wasilla and as Governor. She didn’t go to fancy, elite schools, and the Republican elite hate her for it. If they want to win, they need to get over that, fast. When Barbara Bush sneers down her nose at Sarah Palin, she is sneering down her nose at the entire Republican Base. Not a way to win elections and influence current events.
Palin won’t back away from the fight, and that is important. This election will probably be the nastiest election we have ever had in America. It is also possibly the most important one we have ever had. We cannot afford to run the next-in-line, running because it’ll look cool on his resume candidate. We can’t afford to let the press and the party elites pick our candidate. The Media are the Enemy, and the track record of the Party Elite is poor indeed. If not Sarah, who? Who else has the combination of star power, Conservative credentials, and fighting spirit that she does?
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