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    by coldwarrior ( 130 Comments › )
    Filed under Open thread at March 12th, 2020 - 3:24 pm

    my PET scan is clean other than neck. Good. CT shows some nodules in the lungs. ENT asked, ‘where did you grow up…Yeah he says…”this is common in the Beaver Valley. nothing to be worried about.” Making shit tons of steel back in the day does have a cost. these are benign and not worth further comment. i saw them. so faint, barely there…and then i reminded him that i hd pneumonia 8 times and was ICU’d twice….oh, he says. that makes sense too. i quit getting sick/bronchitis/pnuemonia 8 years ago…stared taking zertec on august 31 and kept taking it until the first freeze…avoid the black mold of rotting vegetation. for years i got sick at EXACtlY the same time every year.

    my case us a t tumor board monday, med onc tuesday, ENT wedenesday…surgery just after that with chemo/rads.

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    1. rain of lead
      1 | March 12, 2020 4:23 pm

      whew.
      ok, gotta plan!

      so what’s going on?
      did we just tip over?
      everything just got cancelled
      no fans in the stands

      all the girls archery tournys have been cancelled and practice is looking real iffy.

      social distancing…
      that’s a real thing now

      people are legit scared now
      with new, faster, testing kits, the case number is going to climb quickly


    2. rain of lead
      2 | March 12, 2020 4:26 pm

      https://apnews.com/f20e530ae6dfe4926f81a11905425e2b

      “Both the President and Vice President had almost no interactions with the individual who tested positive and do not require being tested at this time,” Grisham said.

      uhhh…
      almost no is not a no….


    3. rain of lead
      3 | March 12, 2020 4:28 pm

      https://apnews.com/a123df57403757910e63ca01fde2f322

      Sweeping travel bans cascaded around the globe Thursday, walling off countries and even entire continents, keeping people inside their homes, and slowing the engines of commerce to stem the coronavirus pandemic. Markets collapsed with the growing realization that there would be no fast end to the uncertainty.


    4. rain of lead
      4 | March 12, 2020 4:34 pm

      Italys national health care system is imploding


    5. rain of lead
      6 | March 12, 2020 4:40 pm

      Coronavirus burial pits so vast they’re visible from space

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/iran-coronavirus-outbreak-graves/


    6. rain of lead
      8 | March 12, 2020 4:55 pm

      ever see a world economy just come to a complete stop?

      it’s happening in real time


    7. rain of lead
      9 | March 12, 2020 5:02 pm

      E3, a gaming con just cancelled and that one in in June.


    8. eaglesoars
      11 | March 12, 2020 5:07 pm

      CW, are they going to do any sentenel lymph node surgery? It’s been 20 years since I last marched this march, so I don’t know how things have changed.

      Just got an email from the place where I buy my gold and silver from

      As you all know, the effects of coronavirus (COVID-19) have accelerated what is now a precipitous decline in equities. Access to liquidity in the markets has become an issue, and all asset classes are being affected – including precious metals. This historic turn of events has created a demand shock in the physical precious metals industry. Following years of slow to moderate sales following the Greek crisis in 2015, the entire industry has been cautious to build large inventories. This includes the United States Mint, which experienced a terrible production decline of Silver American Eagles, down to only 14.9M ounces minted in 2019.

      As of this morning, the United States Mint is out of Silver American Eagles, and the backlog is tremendous. To ramp up manufacturing production to meet demand will likely take weeks, if not months. If the US Mint is forced to suspend operations due to coronavirus, it remains unclear how drastic the impact will be to the supply chain. Making matters worse, it now appears that imported supply from Europe is going to be cut off. As it now stands, other products are being bid up to help fill that void.


    9. eaglesoars
      14 | March 12, 2020 5:34 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      Italys national health care system is imploding

      Italy’s public hygiene is medieval. Venice is an open sewer. Somebody called into Larry O’conner and said there’s never any toilet paper in the restrooms, – and there aren’t enough restrooms, use your imagination – people fill their water bottles from the public fountains, feral dogs are everywhere, and nobody picks up after the pets they own.


    10. eaglesoars
      15 | March 12, 2020 5:56 pm

      Willow just snagged my garlic bread


    11. rain of lead
      16 | March 12, 2020 5:59 pm

      the house of mouse just closed

      it’s like all at once, the entire world just lost it’s mind


    12. Aussie Infidel
      17 | March 12, 2020 6:45 pm

      Hey Coldwarrior

      …… are you go9ing to watch the first One Day International in the Chappell-Hadley Series from the Sydney Cricket Ground.?No spectators however and only TV coverage due to the Carrona scare.

      Best of three ODI Tests. The Black Caps are on fire after demolishing the world champions, India ….. BUT …. the Aussies are merciless when playing at home, even though the lack of crowds will remove a bit of their ‘home town advantage.


    13. rain of lead
      18 | March 12, 2020 6:52 pm

      any sports games with no spectators will be very dull and ratings will suck


    14. Aussie Infidel
      19 | March 12, 2020 7:06 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      any sports games with no spectators will be very dull and ratings will suck

      The Sydney Cricket Ground has great atmosphere but without 40,000 Aussies screaming for Kiwi blood, that will be absent.

      This will be a good thing for the Kiwi Black Caps as the Aussie home town advantage will be absent.

      I doubt that a lack of spectators will much affect 5 day Test Cricket as it’s a week of cricket feast where you can float in and out and watch when there is a particular node of crucial action. Test Cricket is very Strategic and it ebbs and flows over 5 days. It’s like chess when compared to checkers (One Day Internations) that are all drama and great for spectator participation.

      5 Day Test Cricket = Chess
      ODI Cricket = checkers with blood!
      T 20 Cricket (20 overs each team) = Cage fighting with bats!

      🙂


    15. eaglesoars
      20 | March 12, 2020 7:10 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      it’s like all at once, the entire world just lost it’s mind

      watch some asshole start shooting………and I mean a country


    16. Aussie Infidel
      21 | March 12, 2020 7:10 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      rain of lead wrote:

      Italys national health care system is imploding

      Italy’s public hygiene is medieval. Venice is an open sewer. Somebody called into Larry O’conner and said there’s never any toilet paper in the restrooms, – and there aren’t enough restrooms, use your imagination – people fill their water bottles from the public fountains, feral dogs are everywhere, and nobody picks up after the pets they own.

      Actually the Italian North is not too bad when it comes to hygiene …. except for the doc shit… and Venice’s canals (open cesspits).
      Just wait until Carona gets its claws into Southern Italy where the demographic is ancient and the whole place is like a rubbish tip with monuments.

      🙂


    17. Aussie Infidel
      22 | March 12, 2020 7:15 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      watch some asshole start shooting………and I mean a country

      Yup.

      That crossed my mind as well.
      People … and governments …. do crazy things when they get scared and desperate.

      Just look at Russia / Saudi Arabia. Both live off their oil.

      The Saudies can turn it on and off like a spigot whilst the Russians have weather, remoteness and very long pipelines making their oil quite a bit more expensive.
      Forget the Russian Mean Break Even Point but Saudi used to be about $12 Mean Break Even Point a while back!


    18. Aussie Infidel
      23 | March 12, 2020 7:19 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      The Russians are in for a hammering and an angry Russian is not good for your health. I’m guessing that Russia will facilitate Iranian ‘help’ to the al Houthy rebels in Yemen who will attack the Saudi infrastructure and cyber control systems, and stir up civil liberties movements inside Saudi.


    19. 24 | March 12, 2020 7:20 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      the house of mouse just closed

      it’s like all at once, the entire world just lost it’s mind

      I know – the kids were all set to go fly to Disneyland tonight as Football Savant Offspring’s Dad was taking them all to the House of Mouse and then to San Diego for a couple days. Whole trip is off.


    20. 25 | March 12, 2020 7:21 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Willow just snagged my garlic bread

      Rocky was famous for the snatch and grab of a ham sandwich.


    21. eaglesoars
      26 | March 12, 2020 7:44 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      The Russians are in for a hammering and an angry Russian is not good for your health. I’m guessing that Russia will facilitate Iranian ‘help’ to the al Houthy rebels in Yemen who will attack the Saudi infrastructure and cyber control systems, and stir up civil liberties movements inside Saudi.

      the link that rain posted to the wattsupwith that article said it was Russia that chose to open the spigot, not KSA. That wasn’t my understanding, I thought it was KSA. Russia didn’t want to give up market share, but this just slit their own wrists. They cannot sustain low prices, KSA can.

      Ok, here’s the new IMPEACH TRUMP narrative.

      He delayed testing to hold down the infection figures so he’ll be re-elected.

      This is a Nat’l Public Radio interview w/Politco reporter, Dan Diamond.

      Someone named TERRY GROSS is the NPR interviewer

      GROSS: Are there cuts the Trump administration made to the public health infrastructure that have left us more undefended? For example, wasn’t there a National Security Council health task force that was disbanded under Trump?

      DIAMOND: That’s right. The president famously axed a team in the White House about two years ago that was focused specifically on pandemic preparedness. He cut funding for a program that predicted when viruses could jump from animals to humans basically around the same time that this new coronavirus appears to have jumped from animals to humans in China.

      So now we’ve established that Trump’s attack on the Deep State are at fault.

      Now we come to the ‘hang him’ part

      But at the same time, Secretary Azar has not always given the president the worst-case scenario of what could happen. My understanding is he did not push to do aggressive additional testing in recent weeks, and that’s partly because more testing might have led to more cases being discovered of coronavirus outbreak, and the president had made clear – the lower the numbers on coronavirus, the better for the president, the better for his potential reelection this fall.

      Trump tried to hide to truth about Americans dying from the plague so that he can be re=elected.

      This is a very long piece, there are lots more highlights than what I’ve put here. I just noted what placed personal responsibility on Trump so that they can try to remove him from office again

      https://www.npr.org/2020/03/12/814881355/white-house-knew-coronavirus-would-be-a-major-threat-but-response-fell-short


    22. eaglesoars
      27 | March 12, 2020 7:50 pm

      <When the history of this epidemic is written, we'll find it started with a massive coverup by Donald Trump who suppressed testing for political reasons

      https://twitter.com/waterse75502493/status/1238194507117715463/photo/1

      Keep in mind that so much of the pressers they’ve held have been about how there AREN’T ENOUGH TESTING KITS

      But you’ve got to get that narrative out there


    23. rain of lead
      28 | March 12, 2020 8:00 pm

      I’d just like to add that ‘interesting times’ was never on my bucket list.


    24. Aussie Infidel
      29 | March 12, 2020 8:07 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      In information warfare you have to read between the lines and keep a weather eye for key words like:-

      …. For example, wasn’t there a ….
      Code for ‘This is a patsy question that we’ve agreed on beforehand to allow you to respond with an agreed narrative ……

      …… predicted when viruses could jump from animals to humans basically around the same time …….
      Code for, Actually these incidents were over a year apart but we are setting up a narrative and we’ll fudge the time line here in the hope that the hot poloi don’t notice. ……….

      …… My understanding is ……
      I’m about to tell a barefaced lie here, but I’ll hide behind a false commentary buffer and then later when the folks reading this shit forget the commentary context, I’ll elude to this narrative as proven fact.

      …… that’s partly because more testing might have led to …… those weasel words such as ‘partly’ and an unattributed ‘because’ and ‘might have’ that slips right into sentences and make the whole shebang just some moronic ideologue’s unattributed and proven opinion, dressed up as if it’s written in stone!

      These bastards are good at the propaganda game. They are lying arseholes of course but skilful arseholes.

      Beware of reading their copy as anything more than rank propaganda.


    25. eaglesoars
      30 | March 12, 2020 8:20 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      you have to read between the lines and keep a weather eye for key words like:-

      not to worry, I’m an expert by now.

      rain of lead wrote:

      I’d just like to add that ‘interesting times’ was never on my bucket list.

      As a history buff, it’s been on mine. However, I’m a lot closer to the bucket than you are, so I don’t have as much time at stake 😆


    26. eaglesoars
      31 | March 12, 2020 8:24 pm

      We’re conducting air strikes in Iraq again. Against ‘non-compliant militia’.

      It takes some talent to come up with phrases like that one.


    27. 32 | March 12, 2020 9:11 pm

      I interviewed for a different call center job this morning. It only pays $11 an hour, and I can’t afford a nearly $7000 a year pay cut.

      As far as this coronavirus goes, we shouldn’t treat it lately by any means, but we’re going into full blown panic and meltdown mode.


    28. eaglesoars
      33 | March 12, 2020 9:14 pm

      @ right_wing2:

      When will they make an offer, if they do? I mean, a pay cut is better than no pay. And can you look for another job while you do that one?


    29. lobo91
      34 | March 12, 2020 9:15 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Willow just snagged my garlic bread

      Rocky was famous for the snatch and grab of a ham sandwich.

      Leia once ate an entire 6″ sandwich from Subway


    30. eaglesoars
      35 | March 12, 2020 9:54 pm

      Geraldo and Bongino are into it

      YOU’RE A CHEAP SHOT ARTIST!!

      YOU’RE A BULLSHIT ARTIST!!


    31. 36 | March 12, 2020 9:56 pm

      Schools are shut down for three weeks here as of Friday afternoon. TP stocks at work are gone and none available in the pipeline. Did some grocery shopping here after work and the stores were insane. My personal pantry is well stocked and I am not worried about our home. Been planning and stocking for a few months now (pre-Corona actually).
      Going to be working on my heavy metal stock piles this weekend, as well as reloading equipment. I am getting a real bad feeling about this whole thing.
      Hell, I wrote a book and a bunch of stories about something like this, socially that is not what’s exactly happening now.


    32. eaglesoars
      37 | March 12, 2020 9:56 pm

      Told ya so…

      MAJOR BREAKING NEWS: NPR Source Says Trump Blocked Coronavirus Testing in January to Aid His Reelection Chances By Keeping US Infection Figures Low

      NOTE: Please RETWEET this—America needs to know what this monster did. Thousands of future deaths will rightly be laid at his feet.

      We didn’t have test kits in January


    33. eaglesoars
      38 | March 12, 2020 9:58 pm

      linky (it’s Seth Abramson, surprise, surprise, writes for Newsweek)

      https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1238216578161926145


    34. lobo91
      39 | March 12, 2020 10:02 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Never mind the fact that that makes no sense.

      How would “keeping US infection figures low” in January help Trump in November?

      This isn’t China, where the government controls the flow of information. Something like that couldn’t be kept secret for months.


    35. Aussie Infidel
      40 | March 12, 2020 10:06 pm

      @ right_wing2:
      eaglesoars wrote:

      @ right_wing2:

      When will they make an offer, if they do? I mean, a pay cut is better than no pay. And can you look for another job while you do that one?

      I agree.

      ALWAYS keep one foot on the ground if at all possible when it comes to income.

      Were talking about a $20 an hour minimum pay rate here in NZ currently which is about USD$17 an hour. Still NZ housing is about double the US cost ( in Auckland and Queenstown but a LOT less in smaller communities) and utilities are a bit higher too.
      But that’s offset by free health …. kinda. Great if you’re about to die but not so good if you need anything that can allow you to survive whilst waiting in line. Family private surgical cover costs about $6K for two mature adults and another $1300 per year to belong to a former Staff Welfare scheme, that gives back 60c in the dollar for GP , physio, dental etc. You are also given a pension after 10 years in country that includes 5 years as a citizen. That comes out at $20K per year for two adults living together. No State Tax because there are no States! Average of the 4 stage individual taxes (Max is 33%) is 18-20%. Corporate tax is currently 28% but due to decrease and they get to write off a LOT such as R&D, business costs etc.

      If you have to someplace NZ is a great bolt hole. Many US elites seem to think so too! You now need to become a resident or citizen before you can buy residential property or farms. No buying a bolt hole and then leaving it empty and flying back to where you came from!

      🙂

      Think about it!


    36. eaglesoars
      41 | March 12, 2020 10:07 pm

      PaladinPhil wrote:

      Hell, I wrote a book and a bunch of stories about something like this, socially that is not what’s exactly happening now.

      and I’ve been thinking about that sequel and wondering if you’ll re-work it now


    37. Aussie Infidel
      42 | March 12, 2020 10:10 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      @ right_wing2:
      Oh yeah!

      And NO CAPITAL GAINS TAX so if you do up houses you can make around $200,000 per year with no tax on average per year

      If you can’t survive under those rules then there is something seriously wrong with you!

      🙂

      HEH!


    38. eaglesoars
      43 | March 12, 2020 10:19 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      $200,000 per year with no tax on average per year

      It’s $250k for singles, $500k for couples


    39. eaglesoars
      44 | March 12, 2020 10:22 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      This isn’t China, where the government controls the flow of information. Something like that couldn’t be kept secret for months.

      Well, there are still a lot of people who honestly believe that Russia got Trump elected, so ‘government control’ can mean different things……..


    40. 45 | March 12, 2020 10:25 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      I’ll probably hear in a week or so. Another interview scheduled for 3/17 at a local bank call center. And pending one with Cox, which would start at 15/hr I think.


    41. eaglesoars
      46 | March 12, 2020 10:28 pm

      @ right_wing2:

      ok, that sounds better. Fingers crossed, but I know you must be terrified


    42. eaglesoars
      47 | March 12, 2020 10:39 pm

      Here’s a fun video of Geraldo & Bongino going at it

      https://twitter.com/FuctupMike/status/1238292167011024896


    43. 48 | March 12, 2020 10:39 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Nope, no need to rework it. Just need to have my muse return from her sabbatical. I am so close to finishing it…


    44. eaglesoars
      49 | March 12, 2020 10:47 pm

      I has to go to bed. Just one observation from my recon mission to the grocery stores.

      All those people who make their own all-natural, organic cleaning supplies from organic lemon juice they squeezed themselves and lavender oil grown from flowers in their back yard – you people sure found the Clorox/Lysol wipes/sprays in a goddamn hurry, didn’t ya?

      Seriously, shelves full of that Method nonsense, there isn’t anything labeled ‘Clorox’ w/in 5 zipcodes.

      nite


    45. eaglesoars
      50 | March 12, 2020 10:47 pm

      PaladinPhil wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:
      Nope, no need to rework it. Just need to have my muse return from her sabbatical. I am so close to finishing it…

      looking forward to it!


    46. 51 | March 12, 2020 10:54 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      It’s frustrating as hell. I’ve been there 9 years, was up for Presidents Award which would have meant a trip to Mexico, working towards a lead position and they shut us down.


    47. 52 | March 12, 2020 11:05 pm

      Awesome.

      https://twitter.com/peterjhasson/status/1238213711900393473

      h/t Octopus via DoD


    48. Aussie Infidel
      53 | March 12, 2020 11:16 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      $200,000 per year with no tax on average per year

      It’s $250k for singles, $500k for couples

      If you want to do it on your own and hire in the required subbies, then you can make about $200K per year over a 2 year period. If you do up and sell for your profit plus capital gain then you are considered NOT to be doing it as a business and therefore you do NOT pay tax on either the market profit plus the improvement capital gain. You can also get away with a one off … ” I didn’t know I couldn’t ‘handle the stairs’ excuse!

      The $200 Kn per year tax free profit per year, is based on a ‘do-up of a former State house (brick and tile) in an up and coming ‘being gentrified’ or something smaller (3 bedroom and a single bathroom) house or semi-detatched in a good suburb.

      If you buy say an 3 BR ex-State brick and time for say $750K and pump in say $150K then after two years you will get around ~$1.3 million tax free with your profit around $400 K total over those 2 years.

      Alternatively buy say a semi-detached 2 BR 1 Bath in a good area for $700K, Spend $100K you will get $1.2 minion over a two year period.

      Most do-ups include …. adding decks and double doors; turning laundry into a second bathroom; fitting drop in kitchen; Moving internal non-loadbearing walls to improve flow; Painting throughout; landscaping, adding a car port etc.

      You have to hold for 2 years so that you are considered non-professional and therefore able to claim tax free status.

      🙂

      We’ve done 6 of these and if we can do it anyone can!

      Daughter in onto her third and is well on her way to a mortgage free life.

      You just learn to use the opportunities as they pop up.

      BUYING WELL is the KEY!

      Any for can sell.


    49. Aussie Infidel
      54 | March 12, 2020 11:21 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Auckland has had a 15 month hiatus but is away again with an 12% value increase over the last year. For actual improvement capital gain is around 300%

      i.e. for every $1 spent on improvements reaps $1.5-3 when you sell. The balance is actual capital gain.


    50. rain of lead
      55 | March 13, 2020 6:54 am

      the WHO has determined that COVID-19 is not transmittable through canine/human contact, and that any canines currently being held for observation should be released. In layman’s terms, that means that WHO let the dogs out).


    51. RIX
      56 | March 13, 2020 9:05 am

      CW, I have not been around her a lot lately. Just read the intro above.
      It sounds like you are going through a medical episode right now.
      Best wishes and prayers.


    52. eaglesoars
      57 | March 13, 2020 9:43 am

      So apparently every news outlet is reporting that doctors in the U.S. are now struggling to find beds for all the sick people.

      What utter drek.

      @ RIX:

      I’m not here to speak for CW, he’ll tell you himself, but this one has very good stats, some crap times with treatment up ahead, but every reason for an excellent outcome. Chin up.

      How are you and yours doing?


    53. eaglesoars
      58 | March 13, 2020 9:46 am

      Arts Technica guide to COVID-19, updated every day at 3 pm. Looks useful

      https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/03/dont-panic-the-comprehensive-ars-technica-guide-to-the-coronavirus/


    54. coldwarrior
      59 | March 13, 2020 9:51 am

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Hey Coldwarrior

      …… are you go9ing to watch the first One Day International in the Chappell-Hadley Series from the Sydney Cricket Ground.?No spectators however and only TV coverage due to the Carrona scare.

      Best of three ODI Tests. The Black Caps are on fire after demolishing the world champions, India ….. BUT …. the Aussies are merciless when playing at home, even though the lack of crowds will remove a bit of their ‘home town advantage.

      yes.

      theystart on the 23rd?


    55. coldwarrior
      60 | March 13, 2020 10:40 am

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      an angry Russian is not good for your health

      gospel.

      😆


    56. coldwarrior
      61 | March 13, 2020 10:48 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      chlorine and sunshine.

      the best disinfectants of all time


    57. coldwarrior
      62 | March 13, 2020 10:55 am

      @ RIX:

      thanks…i’m gonna be ok. just a long haul


    58. coldwarrior
      63 | March 13, 2020 10:56 am

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      ahhh…ODI is on now in ‘archives’ on willow.

      looks like this day is shot!


    59. coldwarrior
      64 | March 13, 2020 11:04 am

      ok, now i am pissed!

      F1 has been cancelled until may.


    60. eaglesoars
      65 | March 13, 2020 12:15 pm

      Trump expected to declare nat’l emergency at 3 pm. I don’t know what that means, I think it’s about releasing federal monies for stuff.

      Hubby is wimping out on me about the trip to Knoxille. People at Mar-a-Lago have tested positive, and he’s afraid to get on a plane with his heart condition.

      I’ll go by myself if the people in Knoxville don’t mind, sheesh.


    61. eaglesoars
      66 | March 13, 2020 12:34 pm

      AHAHAHAHAHA!!

      never miss a chance to grift.

      The WHO has set up its very own gofundme….

      “To give to the #COVID19 Solidarity Response Fund, go to http://who.int, and look for the orange “Donate” button at the top of the page”-
      @DrTedros #coronavirus

      https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1238497300462346241


    62. eaglesoars
      67 | March 13, 2020 12:52 pm

      This is personal account from a doc on the front lines in Seattle

      https://twitter.com/Chenbariatrics1/status/1238328854264963073

      There’s med jargon, don’t pretend to understand all of it, but the description of the course of the illness is interesting


    63. eaglesoars
    64. RIX
      69 | March 13, 2020 1:00 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ RIX:

      thanks…i’m gonna be ok. just a long haul

      Good!


    65. eaglesoars
      70 | March 13, 2020 1:01 pm

      Andrew Gilliam. Remember him? Ran for Gov Florida? DeSantis beat him.

      Yeah, well, see, there was this PAR-TAY – wedding thing – he was at and somebody called the cops. Because somebody keeled over.

      Well, it appears there was meth. And nobody was wearing clothes.

      Yep, buck nekkid meth orgy comin’ right up!

      Candace Owens is breaking the story

      Here is the last page of the report which sites the crystal meth.

      Guess Florida made the right move electing Governor Desantis

      I am told @AndrewGillum and his buddies were naked when cops arrived, which is the reason a sex orgy is suspected, but not confirmed.

      https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1238466426127564800


    66. coldwarrior
      71 | March 13, 2020 1:28 pm

      https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/the-masters-postponed/

      this is getting ridiculous.


    67. Possum
      72 | March 13, 2020 1:36 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Oh, ffs. This is not the Babylon Bee

      Coronavirus: English local elections postponed for a year

      https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-51876269?at_custom2=twitter&at_campaign=64&at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D&at_medium=custom7&at_custom4=09EFEAC4-6542-11EA-9B62-0CC4923C408C&at_custom3=%40BBCBreaking

      Same thing happened in 2001 due to foot and mouth.


    68. CynicalConservative
      73 | March 13, 2020 1:46 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/the-masters-postponed/

      this is getting ridiculous.

      I think we skipped that and jumped straight to ludicrous speed.


    69. Possum
      74 | March 13, 2020 2:01 pm

      Strict border controls really do work for the prevention of disease.

      It is a pity the UK does not extend those border controls to humans.

      In the UK Rabies does not exist.


    70. eaglesoars
      75 | March 13, 2020 2:02 pm

      CynicalConservative wrote:

      coldwarrior wrote:

      https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/the-masters-postponed/

      this is getting ridiculous.

      I think we skipped that and jumped straight to ludicrous speed.

      His name escapes me right now, but some Dem Congress critter just went on a rant about how Trump should be providing the leadership to cancel all this, not leaving it up to individual orgs to make these tough decisions.

      Which means Trump is the worst dictator EVAH, I think.

      Rush just went on a rant, and I think he’s right. Just wait till this is over and things start returning to normal. Businesses open up, stock market recovers, people start living again. It’s going to be unstoppable and we won’t forget the people who did everything they could to tank this country just to get to Trump. Now they want him to cancel his rallies.

      He just may have to. And that will make people even more pissed off at the people who are using this to get to him.


    71. eaglesoars
      77 | March 13, 2020 3:45 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      a complete over reaction that is mostly politically driven.

      not mostly

      PS10/ I don’t think we’ve ever, in our history, had such persuasive evidence that—after being warned of a grave and growing danger to the lives of millions of Americans—a US president decided to ignore and lie about that threat for political gain. There can be no greater scandal.

      https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1238271166386769920

      These people count on lack of reading comprehension. His previous tweets in the SAME thread say this:

      PS3/ Of course, it’s Trump’s own extraordinary classification of his conversations with Azar—and coronavirus-response debates in the administration generally—that keeps us from knowing if anyone advised Trump to test aggressively in January. But it seems *impossible* no one did.

      PS4/ Just so, we have no evidence that Azar told Trump coronavirus was a dire national threat in January, only to see Trump wait (inexplicably) until mid-February to form his vile opinion about the political (re-election) utility of artificially low coronavirus infection figures.

      https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1238266692528156673

      So, tweets 3 and 4 state there is no evidence, tweet 10 states “I don’t think we’ve ever, in our history, had such persuasive evidence ”

      These people are insane, and I mean criminally insane.


    72. 78 | March 13, 2020 3:48 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      That’s about a 2.2% fatality rate vs 9% for flu?


    73. eaglesoars
      79 | March 13, 2020 4:44 pm

      This is from Stephen King, the ‘author’, watching Trump’s presser

      Note that Trump’s coronavirus team is all male, all old, and all white.

      Deb Brix – white female, center screen
      Seema V. – Indian/American, head of CMS, over Trump’s left shoulder I think
      Dr Jerome Adams – black male, surgeon general

      Reality has zero meaning for these people

      market up 1985 pts, 9.3%, 23,185.62 at the close


    74. Aussie Infidel
      80 | March 13, 2020 4:59 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      ahhh…ODI is on now in ‘archives’ on willow.

      looks like this day is shot!

      Not a bad ODI opener for the Aussies. Both openers got 50+ . The Kiwis reinvented their middle order collapse habit!

      Game in an empty stadium. Aussies won by 76 runs.Looks as if the rest of the Chappell Hadlet ODI Series will be played in front of empty stadia.

      🙁


    75. Aussie Infidel
      81 | March 13, 2020 5:01 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      This is from Stephen King, the ‘author’, watching Trump’s presser

      Note that Trump’s coronavirus team is all male, all old, and all white.

      Deb Brix – white female, center screen
      Seema V. – Indian/American, head of CMS, over Trump’s left shoulder I think
      Dr Jerome Adams – black male, surgeon general

      Reality has zero meaning for these people

      market up 1985 pts, 9.3%, 23,185.62 at the close

      Stephen may be a noted author but he leaves his brain and good sense at the door due to his political blindness and ideological fascism.

      🙂


    76. Aussie Infidel
      82 | March 13, 2020 5:04 pm

      Possum wrote:

      It is a pity the UK does not extend those border controls to humans.

      In the UK Rabies does not exist.

      Very true Possum!

      🙂


    77. Aussie Infidel
      83 | March 13, 2020 5:09 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      the WHO has determined that COVID-19 is not transmittable through canine/human contact, and that any canines currently being held for observation should be released. In layman’s terms, that means that WHO let the dogs out).

      Yup.

      I couldn’t believe the WHO suggested strongly that animals domestic could be vectors….. with absolutely no evidence.

      Has WHO got something against dogs and cats?

      Sheeesh!


    78. rain of lead
      84 | March 13, 2020 5:56 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      Who Let The Dogs Out
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkuu0Lwb5EM


    79. coldwarrior
      85 | March 13, 2020 5:56 pm

      they just closed my kids school for two weeks.

      this is stupid


    80. rain of lead
      86 | March 13, 2020 6:44 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      the girls school is closed for a week
      and in even better news
      one of her classmates father works at nissan and was exposed or has it
      and this kid has been at school all week

      so yeah, the stress factor at casa del rain went up a few notches

      aaaand seasonal allergies come on like a cold with lots of coughing scratchy throat, sneezing etc

      guess who’s been coughing all week


    81. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      87 | March 13, 2020 6:46 pm

      Zero cases in my state. Jackasses have cancelled prom, all musical and athletic events, and are considering cancelling graduation and the grad party..after we paid for all the graduation supplies and the party of course. Parents are FURIOUS.


    82. 88 | March 13, 2020 6:57 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:
      My wife had a training trip scheduled to Texas. That has been canceled too. She’s not happy since she gets Perdiem plus travel miles.


    83. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      89 | March 13, 2020 7:04 pm

      I might just be paranoid but since most of the organizations and people pushing this overreaction are liberals it really feels like this is an active attempt to use this to depress and crash the economy so they can fix the election in their favor. “Never let a crisis go to waste.” The overreaction is way out of proportion here compared to their last world ending virus scares. And it’s the schools and media pushing this with the help of dem politicians.


    84. rain of lead
      90 | March 13, 2020 7:08 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      several people (unasked) have said that this panic is being driven by the media


    85. rain of lead
      91 | March 13, 2020 7:09 pm

      @ rain of lead:
      people that have come into the store that I work at today


    86. rain of lead
      92 | March 13, 2020 7:11 pm

      https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/03/13/coronavirus-testing-coming-very-soon-theyll-be-an-app-for-that/

      It’s free.

      It’s an emergency.

      What could possibly go wrong.


    87. 93 | March 13, 2020 7:12 pm

      @ rain of lead:
      Several strangers (including hospital nurses) expressed the same sentiment. On the other hand, the missus reports that the grocery store had been emptied of toilet paper AND paper towels.

      Time to bring back the Sears catalogue.


    88. rain of lead
      94 | March 13, 2020 7:18 pm

      @ Bunk X:

      at work (WM) they brought out 6 pallets of paper goods
      closed the aisles, stocked the shelves and 10 minutes later they were empty again


    89. eaglesoars
      95 | March 13, 2020 7:28 pm

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      this is an active attempt to use this to depress and crash the economy so they can fix the election in their favor.

      of course it is

      The backlash is going to be epic


    90. rain of lead
      96 | March 13, 2020 7:28 pm

      seems to fit

      – If You’re Going Through Hell
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l50L4GYhpLc&feature=youtu.be


    91. 97 | March 13, 2020 7:36 pm

      @ rain of lead:
      In California, the majority of hoarders are unarmed. Just sayin’…


    92. Aussie Infidel
      98 | March 13, 2020 7:40 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      That’s about a 2.2% fatality rate vs 9% for flu?

      Nah!That’s a BS metric for ‘flu’.

      More like 0.1% fatalities for nominal flu.

      Frankly I do NOT believe the numbers for Corona . Because there are in a large percentage of cases either NO symptoms or very mild symptoms the actually infection rate numbers are MUCH larger . That makes the REAL proportion of fatalities Much smaller. That denominator is expected to be huge!


    93. rain of lead
      99 | March 13, 2020 7:44 pm

      @ Bunk X:

      21. Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Take his fish away and tell him he’s lucky just to be alive, and he’ll figure out how to catch another one for you to take tomorrow.

      https://schlockmercenary.fandom.com/wiki/The_Seventy_Maxims_of_Maximally_Effective_Mercenaries


    94. 100 | March 13, 2020 8:04 pm

      @ rain of lead:
      Nice list of truisms.


    95. rain of lead
      101 | March 13, 2020 8:09 pm

      @ Bunk X:

      it comes from this sci-fi comic strip

      https://www.schlockmercenary.com/


    96. rain of lead
      102 | March 13, 2020 8:10 pm

      @ Bunk X:
      the first one
      https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2000-06-12


    97. Brick
      103 | March 13, 2020 8:47 pm

      Evening, all. Been awhile. Looks like a slimmer cast of characters from my last time here. How’s everyone faring? CW, saw your recent Dx, felt it important to let you know will keep you in our prayers.

      Interesting times in which we find ourselves.


    98. rain of lead
      105 | March 13, 2020 9:31 pm

      @ Bunk X:

      heh, i love dogbert, he is such an asshole 🙂


    99. eaglesoars
      106 | March 13, 2020 9:33 pm

      If we’re going to close the border with Europe, then we’d better close the border with Canada. Fast.

      Trudeau refuses to cancel direct flights from China. Today planes landed from Shanghai, Chengdu, Hong Kong, Beijing and other cities. Upon arrival, migrants are asked a question on a screen — in English & French — if they’ve been to “Hubei province”. And then they walk through.

      https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1238633775090651140


    100. lobo91
      107 | March 13, 2020 10:00 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      they just closed my kids school for two weeks.

      this is stupid

      They just closed all public schools in NM for the next 3 weeks.

      And we were informed this morning that all visitation is cancelled until the end of April in all NMCD prisons (including ours).

      This is going to get interesting…


    101. lobo91
      108 | March 13, 2020 10:05 pm

      At least one good thing today: Larkin Poe released the first single off their upcoming album.

      Too bad nobody’s going to be able to see them live anytime soon…


    102. AZfederalist
      109 | March 13, 2020 10:39 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Stephen may be a noted author

      Good choice of words. “Noted author”, not necessarily a good author, just a noted one.

      /Never really did see the allure of his works.


    103. AZfederalist
      110 | March 13, 2020 10:42 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      of course it is

      The backlash is going to be epic

      Imagine the reaction from all of those who now have 60 cases of toilet paper filling all their available storage space.


    104. 111 | March 13, 2020 11:06 pm

      @ lobo91:
      All government services and schools have shut down as of tonight here in Ontario. You might look at this as an over reaction, but I am thinking this is a smart thing. Cases here are popping up faster and faster. Stop the social interactions and you slow the spread.

      Working in a grocery store has been interesting on so many levels. Our company is increasing shipments from the central warehouse so we aren’t running empty shelves. Main toilet paper manufacture is increasing production and we should be seeing results within a week about that.
      Lot of people buying food stuffs is a good thing. If worse comes to worse, they won’t be starving at home because they didn’t go shopping.

      Myself? I have been planning for over a year and just needed to increase a few supplies to make myself feel better. it was more a grocery trip than a panic trip. Wife is really loving my “paranoid” mindset now.


    105. 112 | March 13, 2020 11:07 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      Imagine the reaction from all of those who now have 60 cases of toilet paper filling all their available storage space.

      Thank the good lord that I hadn’t taken a drink. 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀


    106. Aussie Infidel
      113 | March 14, 2020 1:17 am

      New Zealand has just closed its borders to everyone who isn’t wiling to go into instant 14 days isolation. Only freighters can now port and crews must remain on board. Any and all inbound airline passengers will now be required to isolate for 14 days.

      Internal air travel is being suggested as only in necessity. So far there are only 6 Corvona cases in country. One more entry from overseas attended church services at a small congregation and all partitioners are being contacted.

      The $10 billion annual surplus is being added to with an additional $7 billion to support industry and especially small business. Tax holidays , Commercial tax deferrals and an upcoming permanent tax decrease brought forward by 6 months.


    107. 114 | March 14, 2020 7:40 am

      @ rain of lead:
      We went to Dillons last night and they were out or nearly out of TP, paper towels, bread, yeast, flour, baby wipes, sugar, lunch meat, beans, onions, bananas, frozen potatoes and milk, and canned fruit/veggies were low.

      Caution is fine. Caution is smart.

      This is hysteria.


    108. rain of lead
      115 | March 14, 2020 7:52 am

      morning y’all
      so here are some things not corona

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/wow-joe-biden-wanders-off-camera-during-live-town-hall-campaign-tries-to-cover-it-up-with-logo-video/

      Joe Biden held a virtual town hall via Facebook live on Friday and it was a disaster.


    109. rain of lead
      117 | March 14, 2020 8:03 am

      It turns out that this was an exceptionally successful strike because the U.S. military managed to take out yet another senior Iranian military commander:

      https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/03/despite_the_coronavirus_uproar_trump_keeps_the_pressure_on_iran.html


    110. rain of lead
      120 | March 14, 2020 8:27 am

      Let’s smile and be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere


    111. eaglesoars
      121 | March 14, 2020 8:43 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/03/13/hayward-china-threatens-to-cut-off-medicine-throw-america-into-mighty-sea-of-coronavirus/

      The real enemy. Time to cut ties.

      This is excellent. China’s global aspirations are dead.


    112. coldwarrior
      122 | March 14, 2020 9:18 am

      @ rain of lead:
      Dementia


    113. coldwarrior
      123 | March 14, 2020 9:20 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      China is exposed.


    114. coldwarrior
      125 | March 14, 2020 10:28 am

      Brick wrote:

      Evening, all. Been awhile. Looks like a slimmer cast of characters from my last time here. How’s everyone faring? CW, saw your recent Dx, felt it important to let you know will keep you in our prayers.

      Interesting times in which we find ourselves.

      hi brick!

      i just saw you in the comment section. you should be free to post comments without approval now.


    115. coldwarrior
      126 | March 14, 2020 10:31 am

      let’s do a new thread.


    116. Canoe Convoy
      127 | March 14, 2020 1:11 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel: Look at the numbers for H1N1, and compare them to the numbers of the present day virus. Also, compare the statistics for the more common flu with the COVID19. This is about getting clicks, and also about their opposition to Trump. It has little to nothing to do with COVID19.


    117. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      128 | March 14, 2020 1:50 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Stephen may be a noted author

      Good choice of words. “Noted author”, not necessarily a good author, just a noted one.

      /Never really did see the allure of his works.

      I’ve always been bored by his writing with a couple exceptions. Koontz and McCammon are far more engaging and thrilling.


    118. 129 | March 14, 2020 2:26 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:
      Best King wrote, IMHO, was the Dark Tower series (most of it) and The Stand.


    119. Brick
      130 | March 14, 2020 3:49 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      Brick wrote:

      Evening, all. Been awhile. Looks like a slimmer cast of characters from my last time here. How’s everyone faring? CW, saw your recent Dx, felt it important to let you know will keep you in our prayers.

      Interesting times in which we find ourselves.

      hi brick!

      i just saw you in the comment section. you should be free to post comments without approval now.

      Thank you, sir. Let’s see if I remember how to do this. 🙂


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