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    by coldwarrior ( 202 Comments › )
    Filed under Open thread at March 14th, 2020 - 10:30 am

    Hoarding toilet paper? Really?

    I wonder if there is a correlation between hours spent on facebook and twitter to the amount of toilet paper stocked in the house?

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    1. coldwarrior
      1 | March 14, 2020 10:37 am

      https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/prevention.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fabout%2Fprevention.html

      no mention of toilet paper hoarding.

      WASH YOUR HANDS AND STAY HOE IF YOU ARE SICK!!!!!!!!

      that might be too easy for the dumber people in our populaton


    2. rain of lead
      3 | March 14, 2020 12:06 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      humans are smart
      people are stupid panicky animals


    3. coldwarrior
      4 | March 14, 2020 12:14 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:

      humans are smart
      people are stupid panicky animals

      i have never seen this level of idiocy.


    4. eaglesoars
      5 | March 14, 2020 12:16 pm

      NeverTrumpers are afflicted with a special kind of stupid. They ascribe to Trump supporters attributes we don’t actually have. Here is Brett Stephens:

      The coronavirus has exposed the falsehood of so many notions Trump’s base holds about the presidency: that experts are unnecessary; that hunches are a substitute for knowledge; that competence in administration is overrated; that every criticism is a hoax; and that everything that happens in Washington is B.S. Above all, it has devastated the conceit that having an epic narcissist in the White House is a riskless proposition at a time of extreme risk.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/opinion/trump-coronavirus-emergency.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

      I never heard or saw any of this – because it never happened. What also never happened is Brett Stephens moaning about an ‘epic narcissist in the White House’ when the Lightbringer occupied the place.

      And, predictably, the vile Rick Wilson

      I don’t know the day of reckoning, but I suspect the people who sank into their fear of Trump, who defended every outrage, who put him before what they knew was right, and pretended this chaos and corruption was a glorious new age will pay a terrible price.

      They deserve it

      https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/03/13/never-trump-rick-wilson-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-hopes-all-you-trump-supporters-pay-a-terrible-price-because-you-deserve-it/

      What does ‘sank into their fear of Trump’ mean? Me neither. But I know I don’t take ‘political POVs’ from sexual harassers who send out tweets “Does he pay you double for anal” to female Trump supporters. And I have zero respect for the NeverTrumper men who didn’t beat him like he owes them money for it. That this excrement still has a place in their pantheon says all I need to know about all of them.

      What they are fighting is a chimera of their own failures and impotence. It’s telling that they have to drape all of it around us, instead of wearing it themselves.


    5. coldwarrior
    6. coldwarrior
      7 | March 14, 2020 1:04 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      They are insecure adolescents who cant stand to no longer be the cool kids.

      Trump made them pull off their masks and show how much they loathe us…we real Americans.


    7. eaglesoars
      8 | March 14, 2020 1:11 pm

      Another win for the red flag laws

      Police shoot dead ‘anti-government militia man’ in his home amid claims he was ASLEEP when they opened fire from OUTSIDE his house in raid that also left his girlfriend wounded

      The department’s news release on Friday says tactical unit members were serving a ‘high-risk’ search warrant around 4.30am when one of the unit’s officers fatally shot Lemp.

      Police detectives recovered three rifles and two handguns from the home. Lemp was prohibited from possessing firearms, police said.

      ‘Detectives were following up on a complaint from the public that Lemp, though prohibited, was in possession of firearms,’ the release says without elaborating.

      Except he had no criminal record. This is the second time in Maryland.

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8110889/Lawyer-Man-asleep-police-fired-house-killing-him.html


    8. Canoe Convoy
      9 | March 14, 2020 1:14 pm

      As I posted in the previous thread: Compare and contrast the numbers and reaction to H1N1 in 2009, and the stats and reaction to COVID19. This focus on sensationalism is irresponsible on the part of the media.


    9. coldwarrior
      11 | March 14, 2020 1:27 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Premeditated murder


    10. coldwarrior
      12 | March 14, 2020 1:27 pm

      @ Canoe Convoy:
      2009 was VERY VERY BAD


    11. AZfederalist
      13 | March 14, 2020 1:35 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      i have never seen this level of idiocy.

      [cough cough]Year 2000[cough cough]


    12. coldwarrior
      14 | March 14, 2020 1:49 pm

      @ AZfederalist:
      Oh yeah….


    13. coldwarrior
      15 | March 14, 2020 1:51 pm

      The new law allows doctors to practice in states where they are not licensed. Good move, except…they didn’t do it for RNs…the people who carry out the orders.

      They almost got it right


    14. rain of lead
      16 | March 14, 2020 1:53 pm

      Spain to follow Italy into lockdown, US expands travel ban

      https://apnews.com/1dde718068517f188b3fa65a7edcbf86


    15. coldwarrior
      17 | March 14, 2020 2:33 pm

      no Masters, no F1, NZ v Aussies cricket called off.

      jeeze.


    16. eaglesoars
      18 | March 14, 2020 3:38 pm

      Because Hubby went to Mar-a-Lago some idiot told him to get tested. I talked him off the ledge, but this is still a good source if anybody needs it. By state

      https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/coronavirus-testing-information-covid-19-tests-according-state-health-departments-n1158041?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR3aAPzBI_lAYHUTeRhzJd8tnN0PIa2FsxQRili8XKgSxUVW29jZCliZgnc


    17. Brick
      19 | March 14, 2020 4:08 pm

      I’m in Pa and am fully expecting a shelter in place order to happen this weekend or early next week affecting state government operations. Several local municipalities have closed their twp/boro offices until further notice, and are only conducting “official business” via phone, or email. The Governor has already approved special leave allowances for state workers if officially quarantined.

      Maybe I’m the dummy in the room and don’t fully understand the risk (not unusual) but the official world-wide reactions seem grossly disproportionate to the information available regarding the situation? My spidey senses tell me something else is going on.


    18. coldwarrior
      20 | March 14, 2020 4:13 pm

      Brick wrote:

      My spidey senses tell me something else is going on.

      yep


    19. Brick
      21 | March 14, 2020 4:14 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      no Masters, no F1, NZ v Aussies cricket called off.

      jeeze.

      Removing the regular distractions…makes it harder to hide things. 🙂


    20. coldwarrior
      22 | March 14, 2020 4:17 pm

      @ Brick:

      gonna hafta play a bunch of golf i guess.

      ok by me


    21. coldwarrior
      23 | March 14, 2020 4:18 pm

      the kanucks ratifies the USMCA.

      bigger news than corona and lime virus


    22. Brick
      24 | March 14, 2020 4:23 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      Tried golf for a season…not very good at it. Pissed me off. I’ll stick to recoil therapy, and fishing. 🙂


    23. eaglesoars
      25 | March 14, 2020 4:23 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      Brick wrote:

      My spidey senses tell me something else is going on.

      yep

      western gov’ts conspire to tank the global economy? Tell me how that one works…..


    24. Brick
      26 | March 14, 2020 4:29 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      the kanucks ratifies the USMCA.

      bigger news than corona and lime virus

      Another stroke in the “W” column for GEOTUS. And a 1985 point market rally yesterday. Excuse me…9%+. (We only show the absolute value numbers when they decline.)

      Our 401k gains have never looked better.


    25. Brick
      28 | March 14, 2020 4:34 pm

      Is Rodan still around? I owe him a HUGE apology regarding Trump. I mocked him a good bit during his first run up. He was right. I was wrong.


    26. coldwarrior
      29 | March 14, 2020 4:36 pm

      @ Brick:

      i cant even get him on the phone, so he’s placed himself in his own seclusion


    27. coldwarrior
      30 | March 14, 2020 4:37 pm

      Brick wrote:

      (We only show the absolute value numbers when they decline.)

      you noticed that too.


    28. rain of lead
      31 | March 14, 2020 4:37 pm

      US *must* now close its northern border b/c Trudeau, not halting flights from China, has made Canada a border state with #WuhanFlu-source-China.


    29. Aussie Infidel
      32 | March 14, 2020 4:42 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      no Masters, no F1, NZ v Aussies cricket called off.

      jeeze.

      The Black Caps had better be on the ‘last plane into NZ’ today!
      HEH!

      🙂
      Otherwise it’s 14 days in the ‘cooler’ for the lot of them. They deserved it too after their normal collapse against the demon fast bowlers that the Aussies use to terrify the Kiwi Top Order batsmen.

      HEH!

      🙂


    30. coldwarrior
      33 | March 14, 2020 4:44 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Otherwise it’s 14 days in the ‘cooler’ for the lot of them. They deserved it too after their normal collapse against the demon fast bowlers that the Aussies use to terrify the Kiwi Top Order batsmen.

      truth.


    31. coldwarrior
      34 | March 14, 2020 4:45 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      US *must* now close its northern border b/c Trudeau, not halting flights from China, has made Canada a border state with #WuhanFlu-source-China.

      yep.

      he’s a feckless pony-boy


    32. rain of lead
      35 | March 14, 2020 4:57 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      a lying dog-faced pony soldier


    33. coldwarrior
      36 | March 14, 2020 4:58 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:

      a lying dog-faced pony soldier

      that too.

      😆


    34. rain of lead
      37 | March 14, 2020 4:58 pm

      The Latest: Israel closes restaurants, malls to stop virus

      https://apnews.com/fd1743f8b54b17310cc6e4b3445f2914


    35. Aussie Infidel
      38 | March 14, 2020 5:02 pm

      Brick wrote:

      My spidey senses tell me something else is going on.

      @ coldwarrior:
      @ eaglesoars:

      hmmmm.

      A substantial up-tick in arrivals of the millionaire / billionaire class to NZ. Nominally we average one private jet billionaire arriving per day nationally. Yesterday in a low season we got 5 jets arriving. They get Customs cleared on the aircraft and then get straight into their cars. No mixing with the potentially infectious hot pool in the entry customs halls.

      Lots of mere miooionaitrs attempting to buy NZ bolt-hole properties. Too bad they weren’t watching the news . That particular a venue was withdrawn ages ago when China attempted to buy the country. They failed.

      Those billionaire class individuals with foresight complete with families and granny in tow are arriving to take up residence, mostly in Queenstown in the deep south and Russell/ Bay of Islands in the winterless north. Hollywood appears to be on the move! Those who didn’t think ahead only get 3 month vitiator visas and are now looking for luxury accommodation to rent.

      Still only 6 known cases( all from overseas) with half almost over the effects and no suggestion of community infections yet! Eventually it’ll arrive but plans are in place to flatten the Bell Curve of infection numbers, to allow the Health System NOT to be overwhelmed. Isolation of exposed individuals is still being carried out at Whangaparoa Military Camp at the top of the Whangaparoa Peninsula. Self Quarantined people who have been at risk remain about 7,000 at home waiting their 14 days.

      Australia is way further down the track as they didn’t clamp down on inbound travel as NZ. People suspected as having the virus and requesting tests are being placed in halls on chairs 2 metres apaand are required ti wear masks. The wait can be as long as 3-4 hours in some cases!


    36. Aussie Infidel
      39 | March 14, 2020 5:03 pm

      pool = poloi


    37. Aussie Infidel
      40 | March 14, 2020 5:09 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      Trudeau, not halting flights from China,

      Trudeau was bought and paid for by the Chinese.

      I can’t understand the Canadian political psyche. I thought that Canadians were tough self sufficient types. Alas not so! They are late urban socialist types who hired an elitist man-child with mummy issues! The Kanaks snow deserve what they deserved.

      Close the back door to them Trump.


    38. Aussie Infidel
      41 | March 14, 2020 5:10 pm

      late = latte

      Grrr bloody predictive strikes again just when you think it’s behaving itself!

      🙂


    39. coldwarrior
      42 | March 14, 2020 5:11 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      the only cricket on now is the hideous paki professional league and i’m not watching that.

      ipl starts next month tho


    40. eaglesoars
      43 | March 14, 2020 5:13 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      I thought that Canadians were tough self sufficient types.

      They’re FRENCH. Except in the western part.


    41. coldwarrior
      44 | March 14, 2020 5:15 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      pretty tough gaelic hard-asses in the maritimes as well


    42. eaglesoars
      45 | March 14, 2020 5:22 pm

      Here’s Selena Zito on what’ happening on the Strip in Yinzer Town, with a guest appearance by the co-owner of Penn Mac, Rick Sunseri.

      Portrait of Pittsburgh at the dawn of a pandemic

      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/portrait-of-pittsburgh-at-the-dawn-of-a-pandemic


    43. Buckeye Abroad
      46 | March 14, 2020 5:24 pm

      “Hoarding toilet paper? Really?”

      I watched a man stuff a shopping cart full of TP into his Porsche today.

      Nuts.


    44. coldwarrior
      47 | March 14, 2020 5:31 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      we’ve been there every week for the past 3 because the hospital that i go to is just across the river (yeah…mrs coldwarrior works in a union hospital and her bennies are better than mine).

      we’ll be back next week. brunch at roland’s seems to be a thing for us now


    45. coldwarrior
      48 | March 14, 2020 5:32 pm

      @ Buckeye Abroad:
      that aint gonna work at costco!


    46. Buckeye Abroad
      49 | March 14, 2020 5:39 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      No Costco or Sam’s club here mate, but the “Hamsterkauf” (hoarding) is bizarre to watch. You’de think the Russians were crossing the Oder.


    47. Possum
      50 | March 14, 2020 5:46 pm

      Update on the shopping situation in Houston. Visited Target and Walmart.

      No toilet paper, paper towels or normal bottled water. The designer waters i.e. “Smart Water” are available. No Gatoraid/Poweraid.

      Cleaning products either none or very few.

      Processed slice meats seem to be scarce so are eggs. However cheese, bacon, sausage and fresh meat low but there is some.

      Milk, sour cream, yogurt, butter etc stock is OK.

      Bread… Got Naan, Pita and a fresh baked Italian loaf from Walmart. Cookies and other sweet baked goods freely obtainable.

      Beer and wine, shelves looked normal.

      Some canned goods sparse. For instance only two cans of corn on the shelf but a shit load of creamed corn. However there were plenty of canned goods generally. So it looks like people are not stocking up for a time when we are without power for a long period of time.

      I got everything I needed to stay alive until Monday, I could have stocked up on food supplies to last me months. As I said most things were available.

      Only thing I could not get, and it is not essential, was Hydrogen Peroxide. I have been using it to sterilize the kitten’s feeding bottle. But they are now at the age where just “clean” not “sterile” is good enough.

      So, what is this toilet paper panic all about?

      Also an interesting fact. All “feminine hygiene” shelves fully stocked. I would have thought panic buying would have been across the full spectrum of consumables but obviously it is not.


    48. coldwarrior
      51 | March 14, 2020 5:47 pm

      Buckeye Abroad wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:

      No Costco or Sam’s club here mate, but the “Hamsterkauf” (hoarding) is bizarre to watch. You’de think the Russians were crossing the Oder.

      mrs coldwarrior finds this TP hoarding very funny because i joke with her about about how much toileytna bumaga that we always seem to have on hand.


    49. coldwarrior
      52 | March 14, 2020 5:53 pm

      @ Possum:

      fascinating to watch, and painful how stupid many humans are


    50. Aussie Infidel
      53 | March 14, 2020 6:05 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      I thought that Canadians were tough self sufficient types.

      They’re FRENCH. Except in the western part.

      But the Vancouver types are a pack of socialists!. Canada has the ‘coast disease’ . Both coasts are infected with socialists

      🙂


    51. Aussie Infidel
      54 | March 14, 2020 6:08 pm

      Buckeye Abroad wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:

      No Costco or Sam’s club here mate, but the “Hamsterkauf” (hoarding) is bizarre to watch. You’de think the Russians were crossing the Oder.

      HEH!

      🙂

      Some of the Chinese borders who defended on Coles in Melbourne asked if they could get their money back!

      I kid you not. Coles just said that there is plenty of toilet paper in stock and you bought it … you own it!

      🙂


    52. eaglesoars
      55 | March 14, 2020 6:21 pm

      This may help explain the high rate in Italy

      Italy has a very larger number of Chinese workers specifically from an area called Wenzhou. @eshow1969 noted virus rates skyrocketing there in February. Wenzhounese make up a significant number of European businesses of Chinese diaspora
      .
      .
      Many Italians in Northern Italy sold their leather goods and textiles companies to China. Italy then allowed 100,000 Chinese from Wuhan/Wenzhou to move to Italy to work in these factories, with direct Wuhan flights. Result: Northern Italy is Europe’s hotspot for Wuhan Coronavirus

      https://twitter.com/DVATW/status/1238073137813749762

      And they all went back to China for the Lunar New Year, then back to Italy.


    53. coldwarrior
      56 | March 14, 2020 6:24 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      ahhhh!

      thanks for that, i was wondering…


    54. lobo91
      57 | March 14, 2020 6:44 pm

      @ Possum:

      I just returned from our local WalMart, and it’s pretty much the same here.


    55. lobo91
      58 | March 14, 2020 7:28 pm

      I just saw last night that the Dallas International Guitar Festival has been rescheduled. It was supposed to be April 30-May 2nd. Now it’s July 31-August 2nd.

      I’m hoping I don’t have too much trouble with my plane and hotel reservations


    56. eaglesoars
      59 | March 14, 2020 7:33 pm

      I’m sure the MSM will gnash its collective choppers in frustration, but Trump’s test results are negative.


    57. eaglesoars
      60 | March 14, 2020 7:37 pm

      In case you were wondering about lib/prog math skills, Bernie’s campaign manager clears that right up

      500 mil Americans go bankrupt from medical debt every year

      https://twitter.com/AGHamilton29/status/1238970597457223689/photo/1

      every one, every year.

      STUPID PEOPLE


    58. 61 | March 14, 2020 7:53 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      Don’t forget the Golden Horsehoe (western part of Lake Ontario). Get out of that area and things turn blue conservative real quick.


    59. coldwarrior
      62 | March 14, 2020 7:59 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      these people have real problems with the powers of 10 etc


    60. rain of lead
      63 | March 14, 2020 8:09 pm

      https://blog.opentable.com/2020/covid-19-coronavirus-restaurant-industry-data/

      In the United States and United Kingdom, we see a 20 percent reduction in total seated diners vs. last year. (All declines cited here are on a year-over-year basis.)

      shit, thats huge
      shops on the edge, ARE gonna go under


    61. coldwarrior
      64 | March 14, 2020 8:14 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      we tend to use door dash much more often now than going to a sit down


    62. rain of lead
      65 | March 14, 2020 8:21 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      so grub hub has a new “no contact” feature
      the driver will text you when they drop your food off on your porch


    63. coldwarrior
      66 | March 14, 2020 8:38 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      i guess that works if you are quarantined. but i like to do a cash tip


    64. Brick
      67 | March 14, 2020 8:40 pm

      I think a month from now, everything is going to be very different. Not in an ominous, or foreboding way…just…different. Can’t put my finger on it, though.


    65. coldwarrior
      68 | March 14, 2020 8:40 pm

      mrs coldwarrior called and said the local walmart is decimated.


    66. coldwarrior
      70 | March 14, 2020 8:46 pm

      @ Brick:

      i think a lot more people are gonna be pised off at the left/media


    67. eaglesoars
      71 | March 14, 2020 8:51 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      these people have real problems with the powers of 10 etc

      which probably precludes them from learning to code….


    68. Brick
      72 | March 14, 2020 8:56 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      Mrs. Brick came back from the local Giant, Karns, and Dollar General a couple of hours ago. The goal was to get some office snacks for her girls at work, and a quart of milk for my coffee this week.

      She reported same as everyone else. Bread, Water, TP, Paper Towels, and pasta…all nada. No milk for me, but she did find some of those single serving tiny creamer cups like you get at restaurants. Everyone was nice and polite, but she said there was a weird vibe at each place.

      Our Giants are normally open 24hrs – but they’re changing their hours and won’t be open overnight anymore for the foreseeable future.

      She also told me that if I want anything we don’t already have, I’ll be getting it myself. Nope, I think we’re good Bebbe. 🙂


    69. eaglesoars
      73 | March 14, 2020 8:56 pm

      here’s a thread from a med guy who has been reading thru the literature published this week on treating COVID-19

      https://twitter.com/davidasinclair/status/1238972082756648960

      Chloroquine is predicted to prevent orf1ab, ORF3a and ORF10 from attacking heme (red in red blood cells) and inhibit the binding of ORF8 to heme. Although 99% of the virus is seemingly stable, what’s disturbing is ORF 1 and 8 are mutating the fastest…
      .
      .
      https://twitter.com/davidasinclair/status/1238972090889449472


    70. lobo91
      74 | March 14, 2020 9:08 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Chloroquine is predicted to prevent orf1ab, ORF3a and ORF10 from attacking heme (red in red blood cells) and inhibit the binding of ORF8 to heme. Although 99% of the virus is seemingly stable, what’s disturbing is ORF 1 and 8 are mutating the fastest…

      I wonder if that includes what I already take?

      I’ve been on 400 mg of hydroxychloroquine for about 8 the past months for arthritis


    71. Brick
      75 | March 14, 2020 9:08 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ Brick:

      i think a lot more people are gonna be pised off at the left/media

      That particular kettle is definitely approaching a rolling boil! Here’s the thing though…I think it’s going to get to a point where anybody with the slightest bit of honesty and a functioning moral compass will have to pause and think “Maybe, we got this wrong?”

      When that happens, we can either spike the ball and do the I told you so dance, or we can be like pull up a chair, glad you could make it, we’ve been waiting for you.

      Anyone after that still trying to jam sticks in the spokes, it’d be fair to say they’re serving a darker, non-compatible agenda…write-offs.


    72. coldwarrior
      76 | March 14, 2020 9:09 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      you’ll need plenty of gin to get that med down….and limes…and tonic water


    73. coldwarrior
      77 | March 14, 2020 9:10 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      I’ve been on 400 mg of hydroxychloroquine for about 8 the past months for arthritis

      yours a much weaker dose.


    74. coldwarrior
      78 | March 14, 2020 9:18 pm

      @ Brick:
      mrs coldwarrior stopped at walmart on her way back from the hospital…

      she called me laughing on the phone about how she was having moscow flashbacks.


    75. lobo91
      79 | March 14, 2020 9:19 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      I wouldn’t want to take much more. It has some fairly nasty side effects


    76. coldwarrior
      80 | March 14, 2020 9:20 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:

      I wouldn’t want to take much more. It has some fairly nasty side effects

      truth


    77. lobo91
      81 | March 14, 2020 9:20 pm

      Latest data from Italy:

      21,157 cases

      6.8% deceased
      7.2% in intensive therapy
      39.6% hospitalized
      37.2% under house arrest
      9.3% dismissed as cured

      Source: government civil protection service

      https://twitter.com/alessabocchi/status/1238891725747294209


    78. lobo91
      82 | March 14, 2020 9:21 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      I already have to go in once a year for a retina scan to check for damage


    79. eaglesoars
      84 | March 14, 2020 9:46 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      Latest data from Italy:

      21,157 cases

      6.8% deceased
      7.2% in intensive therapy
      39.6% hospitalized
      37.2% under house arrest
      9.3% dismissed as cured

      Source: government civil protection service

      https://twitter.com/alessabocchi/status/1238891725747294209

      somebody just told me there are about 500k Chinese in northern Italy.


    80. AZfederalist
      85 | March 14, 2020 9:51 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      every one, every year.

      Nearly twice


    81. eaglesoars
      86 | March 14, 2020 10:02 pm

      Chinese Tycoon Ren Zhiqiang Who Criticized Xi’s Response to Coronavirus Has Vanished

      https://twitter.com/niubi/status/1238974530808315906

      May his memory be a blessing


    82. eaglesoars
      87 | March 14, 2020 10:20 pm

      When Italy asked for urgent medical supplies under a special European crisis mechanism no EU country responded. Fearful of its own shortages, Germany initially banned the export of medical masks and other protective gear. 3M, a producer, said the German restrictions had made it impossible to supply the Italian market. Berlin subsequently relaxed the export rules, but then Austria closed its borders to people arriving from Italy unless they could prove they were virus-free.

      The rebuffs are nourishing resentment that Italy has been abandoned by its European friends. It is a perception that has taken root over a decade, of a currency union that lacks collective solidarity and stifles growth as Italy confronted migrant flows from Africa and the Middle East. This, in turn, has fuelled the rise of Eurosceptic nationalists such as far-right firebrand Matteo Salvini.

      https://www.blogmocracy.com/2020/03/14/stupid-people-open/#comment-40986


    83. Aussie Infidel
      88 | March 14, 2020 10:20 pm

      Happy Ides of March. Unless of course if you are related to Julius Caesar!

      🙂

      Also the birthday for the NZ Military Intelligence Corps. I attended the birth and my Core # is #002. My Corporal/ Clark had to do all of the paper work so it was only proper for Cpl Radford to be the Corps first member. The Director (DMI) was #017…… being ex Armoured Corps that is understandable …. politely late.
      🙂

      The Honourary Colonel has a reserved Corps number #007 of course.

      HEH!

      🙂

      The story goes that had Julius listened to his IO, he’s have had up to date intelligence and wouldn’t have attended the Senate that morning with his ‘mates’, and wouldn’t have got himself skewered.

      🙂


    84. eaglesoars
      89 | March 14, 2020 10:21 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      China stepped up, tho

      On Thursday, they finally arrived — from Shanghai. The China Eastern flight brought a medical team and 31 tonnes of supplies including ventilators.

      STUPID PEOPLE


    85. Aussie Infidel
      90 | March 14, 2020 10:23 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Beware the Hun!

      Especially where his own self interest is involved.

      Looking to see whether this produces an Italexit.


    86. eaglesoars
      91 | March 14, 2020 10:23 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      wouldn’t have attended the Senate that morning with his ‘mates’, and wouldn’t have got himself skewered.

      Cicero thought he suspected what was up. Thought he could talk his way out of it.


    87. Aussie Infidel
      92 | March 14, 2020 10:42 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      wouldn’t have attended the Senate that morning with his ‘mates’, and wouldn’t have got himself skewered.

      Cicero thought he suspected what was up. Thought he could talk his way out of it.

      Typical. A Commander who thinks that he can do his own Intel analysis ‘on the fly’, and blows off his IO who is the professional who knows the enemy’s mind. It’s part of his bloody job!

      Been there more than once.

      Then you get a Commander who appreciates his INTEL Group listens to them and actually participates inside the Intelligence Cycle and Directs the Intel focus based on what he’s learned so far.

      The difference between a One Man Band type of a Commander and a true Commander.


    88. AZfederalist
      93 | March 14, 2020 10:45 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Chinese Tycoon Ren Zhiqiang Who Criticized Xi’s Response to Coronavirus Has Vanished

      https://twitter.com/niubi/status/1238974530808315906

      May his memory be a blessing

      Hopefully he caught a flight out to some distant, safe land


    89. Aussie Infidel
      94 | March 14, 2020 10:48 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      The ‘true commander’ slew all before him in the most cunning and surprising way before the enemy even knew that he was in trouble!

      Cut off the POL, food and ammunition, destroying the enemy’s logistics and surprise his artillery with a totally unexpected counter artillery fire from a quarter that he hadn’t even considered (ships) and no matter how many men the enemy has left, it’s just a long walk home for them.

      🙂

      HEH!

      🙂


    90. Aussie Infidel
      95 | March 14, 2020 10:49 pm

      AZfederalist wrote:

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Chinese Tycoon Ren Zhiqiang Who Criticized Xi’s Response to Coronavirus Has Vanished

      https://twitter.com/niubi/status/1238974530808315906

      May his memory be a blessing

      Hopefully he caught a flight out to some distant, safe land

      Just as long as he doesn’t try to fly into Queenstown in his exec jet!

      🙂


    91. eaglesoars
      96 | March 14, 2020 10:54 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Cut off the POL, food and ammunition, destroying the enemy’s logistics and surprise his artillery with a totally unexpected counter artillery fire

      Seige of Alesia (sp?). I mean if you forget about the human carnage, that thing is like a magnificent ballet.


    92. Aussie Infidel
      97 | March 14, 2020 11:11 pm

      Our ‘lil Olde 1st. NZ Brigade was ‘the meat’ served up for a Singaporean Division for what was supposed to be an attritional battle. Seeing we were out numbered 5:1 everyone thought it was all over except for the shouting and Singaporean victory parade.

      We KNEW the terrain like the back of our hand There were only two possible routes one on the East Coast where the 6th Singaporean Div was concentrated and a very narrow convoluted West coast road where we did a very fast dash at 0230 one dark and stormy night. God amongst the Singaporean Logistics tail and totally trashed it then withdrew back north as all of the cross Peninsula roads were destroyed by engineers with pre-placed explosives to slow / prevent Singaporean armoured pursuit. Then the Navy totally destroyed the Singaporean Divisional Artillery because we knew that there was only two possible sites big enough to handle a Division’s worth of artillery. We had ID-ed that site just before sunset the day before by NZSAS patrols.

      Air supplied the coup d’gras as lines of dry vehicles lines of the Singaporean retreat routes back south

      As you say … it was a thing of beauty.

      🙂


    93. Aussie Infidel
      98 | March 14, 2020 11:28 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      After that 3 day rout of the Israeli trained Singaporean 6th Infantry Division we had to suck it up and sit through an immobile attritional battle that slowly ground down the Brigade (Battle Group) so that the Singaporean Commander didn’t lose face.

      The whole proceedings were to get the Singaporean army ready for an invasion of the Malay Peninsula. Singapore has its infantry based in the city state with all of its armour (well most of it anyway) based in Southern Thailand … waiting. Training of the Singaporean artillery is done in NZ and there is a Regiment of armour based in Taiwan where armoured Corps head several times a year to exercise.

      The 6th Division did a follow up visit to NZ ‘s Southern Alps where we discovered that Singaporean Staff Officers can’t appreciate VERY steep ground by counting grid lines, at all well.

      HEH!
      🙂

      You should have seen their faces when they did a map-ex and then went onto the real ground to seen how their plans would have worked out.

      They were more interested in getting to the Christchurch Casino after that little embarrassment!.

      🙂


    94. eaglesoars
      99 | March 14, 2020 11:33 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      I have to go to bed, but post how many hours the whole thing took, I’ll check back in the morning.

      nite.


    95. eaglesoars
      100 | March 14, 2020 11:43 pm

      one more thing – the COVID-19 is suspected to have been here for months before China came clean. People – hundreds – on twitter are saying they or family members had an unidentifiable respiratory illness with same symptoms. Recovery times vary, but looks like 6 weeks avg.


    96. Aussie Infidel
      101 | March 14, 2020 11:48 pm

      All up the 1 NZ Brigade routing of the 6th Singaporean Division took 66 hours in total, when we were allowed to use our brains.

      The rest of the scripted (face saving Singaporean ) attritional battle took 10 days to grind down the 1st NZ Brigade to non-operational status.

      The Singaporean attitude to Logistics is typical of Israeli training. Load up with everything you need for a week and when it’s all gone …. walk home.

      We carried out a separate Operational Logistics Ex with NZ Logisticians helping their Singaporean counterparts. At one stage along a single Divisional re-supply route, it was calculated that the trucks were parked nose to tail for miles and it would have been faster getting supplies through by passing the boxed hand to hand! Seriously!

      🙂
      Singaporean Logistics planning is terrible….. just like the Israelis who taught them!


    97. Aussie Infidel
      102 | March 14, 2020 11:51 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      one more thing – the COVID-19 is suspected to have been here for months before China came clean. People – hundreds – on twitter are saying they or family members had an unidentifiable respiratory illness with same symptoms. Recovery times vary, but looks like 6 weeks avg.

      Janes Defence Review is assessing that China had 50,000 infections a day at one stage!

      Good news for the death rate as a denominator like that means that the death rate is akin to ordinary flu. The fly in the ointment is that Corona Virus spreads in a stealth mode for weeks with few or no symptoms.


    98. 103 | March 15, 2020 5:10 am

      Greetings from the Alleghany front

      just checking in as I sometimes do during big happenings
      for a vicarious dose of lucidity

      Get well CW


    99. 106 | March 15, 2020 6:37 am

      There’s a name for this form of government, but we’re not supposed to use it…

      A https://www.weaselzippers.us/445467-de-blasio-you-know-we-need-to-nationalize-businesses-to-fight-the-wuhan-virus/


    100. coldwarrior
      109 | March 15, 2020 7:29 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      one more thing – the COVID-19 is suspected to have been here for months before China came clean. People – hundreds – on twitter are saying they or family members had an unidentifiable respiratory illness with same symptoms. Recovery times vary, but looks like 6 weeks avg.

      i had sniffle/sneeze/sore throat for 5 weeks in nov/dec.

      so did most of the Er where i worked


    101. coldwarrior
      110 | March 15, 2020 7:30 am

      Scott Madsen wrote:

      Greetings from the Alleghany front

      just checking in as I sometimes do during big happenings
      for a vicarious dose of lucidity

      Get well CW

      thx scott!


    102. eaglesoars
      111 | March 15, 2020 7:45 am

      This was O’Hare airport, terminal 5. 6hour wait for bag, another 2-3 for customs

      https://twitter.com/BrookeGMcDonald/status/1238986272137502720


    103. eaglesoars
      112 | March 15, 2020 8:01 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      i had sniffle/sneeze/sore throat for 5 weeks in nov/dec.

      I’m gonna have to reschedule my recon mission to Knoxville, I think. I was due to leave next Sunday. But the Knoxville Hilton (not where I was staying) has let staff go, etc. I’m a classic target for this bug (old, suppressed immune system) and if I get sick/die – my family is in deep kimchee. My husband is starting to need help, there is no way he can take care of the heathen beagles. They would have to be given away – and that would kill him right there.

      So, this one time I don’t get into my stubborn/stupid mode, I guess.

      OTOH, if Trump wakes up today and sez he thinks the election should be postponed, I bet this thing goes away yesterday.


    104. coldwarrior
      113 | March 15, 2020 8:35 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      smart move at this point.

      how much of the recon can be done online? a lot of laces have vids and i’ll bet an agent would love to help yinz.


    105. coldwarrior
      114 | March 15, 2020 8:35 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      OTOH, if Trump wakes up today and sez he thinks the election should be postponed, I bet this thing goes away yesterday.

      gospel


    106. eaglesoars
      115 | March 15, 2020 8:54 am

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      smart move at this point.

      how much of the recon can be done online? a lot of laces have vids and i’ll bet an agent would love to help yinz.

      I’ve already done that, I’ve spent 4 months doing it. I have houses/developments organized by zip code/major highway routes. This was to go down and actually see the ‘hoods, do the actual driving to the closest vet, grocery store, etc., from each site on the ‘possible’ list. We already have 2 agents lined up to help us with a ‘tour’. My sister lived there for awhile while her daughter was in school there and she was doing the ‘back roads’ thing. Also, visiting Mafia Princess.

      But it is what it is. There are these creatures that absolutely depend on me and that’s non-negotiable. Suck it up.


    107. eaglesoars
      116 | March 15, 2020 9:22 am

      Heads up Pennsylvania people! Cuz you know this won’t stay in Philly

      ‘Somber Time,’ and Sober for Some: Pa. Liquor Stores to Close in Philly Suburbs
      Gov. Tom Wolf said he was not shutting down the state-run liquor stores on Friday, but by Saturday the state said it would shut down all stores in Philadelphia’s four suburban counties.

      https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/somber-time-not-necessarily-sober-pa-liquor-stores-to-remain-open-for-now/2326173/


    108. Brick
      117 | March 15, 2020 10:06 am

      Good morning.

      National Day of Prayer. Take a moment and acknowledge that for which your grateful, if you’re so inclined.

      Canine games. So, Dammit dog happily brings me about an 18″ plug end, section of electrical cord dangling from her mouth. And the search begins to see what no longer works. It’s hew new interactive hoooman guessing game.


    109. eaglesoars
      119 | March 15, 2020 12:02 pm

      But the engineered virus was simply a modification to an existing animal virus, so I don’t get it

      Editors’ note, March 2020: We are aware that this story is being used as the basis for unverified theories that the novel coronavirus causing COVID-19 was engineered. There is no evidence that this is true; scientists believe that an animal is the most likely source of the coronavirus.

      https://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research-1.18787?WT.mc_id=TWT_NatureNews


    110. Brick
      120 | March 15, 2020 12:17 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      But the engineered virus was simply a modification to an existing animal virus, so I don’t get it

      Editors’ note, March 2020: We are aware that this story is being used as the basis for unverified theories that the novel coronavirus causing COVID-19 was engineered. There is no evidence that this is true; scientists believe that an animal is the most likely source of the coronavirus.

      https://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research-1.18787?WT.mc_id=TWT_NatureNews

      Add this…http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/
      (note the sponsors)

      ..and the 2003 and 2007 patents on prior corona viri…

      It’s almost as if, this was…planned?

      Also curious that during the President’s corona speech when asked about the origins..he says “we all know where it came from.” And within 24 hours Bill Gates steps down from at least 2 noted positions.

      Probably just coincidence.


    111. lobo91
      121 | March 15, 2020 12:20 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      There is no evidence that this is true; scientists believe that an animal is the most likely source of the coronavirus.

      There’s also “no evidence” that their statement is true, either. It’s just a claim referencing unnamed “scientists.”


    112. eaglesoars
      122 | March 15, 2020 12:41 pm

      @ Brick:

      It wasn’t planned. Gov’t don’t deliberately tank the global economy. As for Trump saying we know where this comes from, the question he was responding to was about China denying they are the source. Trump was just nailing China.

      I’ve seen speculation about the Gates move, but I don’t make much of it. Pandemics HAVE been predicted and so far this one doesn’t even come close to SARS.

      But what about the patents? I didn’t know you could patent a virus.

      Did you find the source of the electric cable break? I assume it wasn’t plugged into anything, or Dammit dog is lucky not to have been electrocuted.


    113. Brick
      123 | March 15, 2020 12:54 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Totally agree! “Government(s)” of people, for people, by people in the purest definition would never do such a thing. In the near future, keep yourself open to the idea that over the last several decades the public “people in charge” weren’t really running the show.

      And yes! Dammit dog severed my son’s laptop charger. 🙂


    114. eaglesoars
      124 | March 15, 2020 12:56 pm

      Brick wrote:

      Dammit dog severed my son’s laptop charger.

      AHAHAHAHAHA!! Who’s a GOOD DOG!!

      Don’t worry, I am no dummy about the Deep State. But that’s not this


    115. Brick
      125 | March 15, 2020 1:24 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Trump’s pressers are onion skins. There’s always another layer.

      Deep State is multi-national, multi-generational, and have no loyalty but to themselves and who they serve. The ongoing crackdowns against MS-13 actors is depriving them of the arm’s length, much needed “muscle” to keep wayward players in line, and “fix” things. See Seth Rich, and more recently, Jeff Epstein.

      Or, I could be wrong.


    116. eaglesoars
      126 | March 15, 2020 2:00 pm

      Brick wrote:

      Or, I could be wrong.

      Prolly not.

      This is a very good write-up on why some diseases seem to come and go with the seasons

      https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/why-do-dozens-diseases-wax-and-wane-seasons-and-will-covid-19


    117. eaglesoars
      127 | March 15, 2020 2:14 pm

      So now it is reported that, after destroying his life & the life of his wonderful family (and many others also), the FBI, working in conjunction with the Justice Department, has “lost” the records of General Michael Flynn. How convenient. I am strongly considering a Full Pardon!

      https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1239242219019735042


    118. lobo91
      128 | March 15, 2020 2:16 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      “Top. Men.”


    119. eaglesoars
      129 | March 15, 2020 2:26 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      “Top. Men.”

      where the hell is Durham?


    120. Buckeye Abroad
      130 | March 15, 2020 3:56 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      “They were more interested in getting to the Christchurch Casino after that little embarrassment!.”

      Spent a few hours in that casino back in October 2007. Fun night.


    121. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      131 | March 15, 2020 4:02 pm

      Downloaded Folding@home again. Figured now that I went through a month of hell and finally upgraded my memory, power supply, and added a second video card, I can afford to run it in my downtime.


    122. eaglesoars
      132 | March 15, 2020 5:03 pm

      Fed cuts rates to zero

      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/economy/fed-cuts-rates-to-zero


    123. Aussie Infidel
      133 | March 15, 2020 5:48 pm

      Buckeye Abroad wrote:

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      “They were more interested in getting to the Christchurch Casino after that little embarrassment!.”

      Spent a few hours in that casino back in October 2007. Fun night.

      I was tasked by the Commander Land Forces to ensure that our Singaporean friends did not get into any trouble at the casino.

      At the end of the night of riding shotgun over them I had a two bucks coin in my pocket, popped it into a machine as I exited the building and scored a Jackpot. My only gambling the whole night.

      🙂


    124. Aussie Infidel
      134 | March 15, 2020 5:51 pm

      Buckeye Abroad wrote:

      @ Aussie Infidel:

      “They were more interested in getting to the Christchurch Casino after that little embarrassment!.”

      Spent a few hours in that casino back in October 2007. Fun night.

      You do know that the Casino was knocked down after the Christchurch earthquake! Fortunately it didn’t pancake and all the gamblers won big time and got out alive.


    125. Aussie Infidel
      135 | March 15, 2020 5:59 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      OTOH, if Trump wakes up today and sez he thinks the election should be postponed, I bet this thing goes away yesterday.

      Trump could say that the election is postponed until 2030 , just for the entertainment value of seeing all of the talking heads exploding simultaneously.

      🙂

      I’d pay good folding money to see that.

      Even if it was n jest!

      HEH!


    126. rain of lead
      136 | March 15, 2020 6:11 pm

      You see me now a veteran of a thousand Wal-Mart wars
      I’ve been living on the edge so long
      Where the winds of limbo roar
      And I’m young enough to look at
      And far too old to see
      All the scars are on the inside
      I’m not sure that there’s anything left to me

      Don’t let these shakes go on
      It’s time we had a break from it
      It’s time we had some leave
      We’ve been living in the flames
      We’ve been eating up our brains
      Oh please don’t let these shakes go on

      You ask me why I’m weary, why I can’t speak to you
      You blame me for my silence say It’s time I changed and grew
      But the war’s still going on, dear, and there’s no end that I know
      And I can’t say if we’re ever…
      I can’t say if were ever gonna be free

      Don’t let these shakes go on
      It’s time we had a break from it
      It’s time we had some leave
      We’ve been living in the flames
      We’ve been eating out our brains
      Oh please don’t let these shakes go on

      You see me now a veteran of a thousand Wal-Mart wars
      My energy’s spent at last
      And my armor is destroyed
      I have used up all my weapons and I’m helpless and bereaved
      Wounds are all I’m made of
      Did I hear you say that this is victory?

      Don’t let these shakes go on
      It’s time we had a break from it
      Send me to the rear
      Where the tides of madness swell
      And been sliding into hell
      Oh please don’t let these shakes go on
      Don’t let these shakes go on
      Don’t let these shakes go on


    127. AZfederalist
      137 | March 15, 2020 6:11 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      I guess daytime is OK. Virus must only spread at night.

      /s


    128. AZfederalist
      138 | March 15, 2020 6:13 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      a lot of laces have vids

      Not thinking she’s looking for that kind of place.


    129. rain of lead
      139 | March 15, 2020 6:28 pm

      sunlight truly is the best disinfectant

      https://medium.com/@ra.hobday/coronavirus-and-the-sun-a-lesson-from-the-1918-influenza-pandemic-509151dc8065

      Put simply, medics found that severely ill flu patients nursed outdoors recovered better than those treated indoors. A combination of fresh air and sunlight seems to have prevented deaths among patients; and infections among medical staff.[1] There is scientific support for this. Research shows that outdoor air is a natural disinfectant. Fresh air can kill the flu virus and other harmful germs. Equally, sunlight is germicidal and there is now evidence it can kill the flu virus.


    130. AZfederalist
      140 | March 15, 2020 6:32 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      Equally, sunlight is germicidal

      Yep. My Dad has always said that even when it was really cold outside, calves born and run out in the pasture always did better than if they were brought inside into the barn.


    131. eaglesoars
      141 | March 15, 2020 6:35 pm

      Jeebus

      Italy reports 3,590 more coronavirus cases, its biggest one-day increase

      https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/487667-italy-reports-3590-more-coronavirus-cases-its-biggest


    132. Buckeye Abroad
      142 | March 15, 2020 7:00 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Buckeye Abroad wrote:
      @ Aussie Infidel:
      You do know that the Casino was knocked down after the Christchurch earthquake! Fortunately it didn’t pancake and all the gamblers won big time and got out alive.

      I did not know that. Damn shame.


    133. eaglesoars
      143 | March 15, 2020 7:04 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Fed cuts rates to zero

      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/economy/fed-cuts-rates-to-zero

      I don’t understand

      Meanwhile, immediately after the Federal Reserve decision, the U.S. equity futures plunged on Sunday evening. Dow Jones Industrial futures opened lower by 1,040 points, or 4.5 percent, while the S&P 500 and Nasdaq Composite were down 4.4 percent and 4.6 percent, respectively.

      https://saraacarter.com/fed-cuts-rates-to-zero-dow-futures-respond-negatively-tumbling-1000-points/


    134. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      144 | March 15, 2020 7:12 pm

      My moronic governor just closed schools for two weeks. Still no verified cases in my state. Four undergoing testing currently.


    135. lobo91
      145 | March 15, 2020 7:27 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:

      Ours are closed for the next 3 weeks, starting tomorrow


    136. Aussie Infidel
      146 | March 15, 2020 7:30 pm

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      My moronic governor just closed schools for two weeks. Still no verified cases in my state. Four undergoing testing currently.

      That is seriously stupid.

      The Law of Unintended Consequences is about to come the Governor’s way!

      Remember that children have found to be resistant to exhibiting the symptoms of this virus. They have been locked away together generating a nice little infection centre.

      Imagine all of the kids now at home.Unsupervised !
      parents are working and can’t afford to stay home soo…. Guess who steps up to do the childcare?
      Grandparents.
      Those most vulnerable to Covid-19 looking after the super-spreaders.

      What could possibly go wrong?

      🙂


    137. Aussie Infidel
      147 | March 15, 2020 7:38 pm

      If you look likely to be the child minders ensure that the little darling have first been isolated for 14 days BEFORE arriving to stay! Hopefully in a semi isolated environment where essentials are remotely ordered and delivered … after being decontaminated. A spray of 3.5-5% bleach in water or 65-70% alcohol based decontaminant is necessary. School with gramps happens daily just like ordinary school but because it’s one on one or one on a few, you can get the work done in as little as 3 hours and the ankle biters get the rest of the day off to do as they want indoors or outside as long as they do NOT make external contact with neighbours. Go ride a bike or whatever but keep their safe distances!

      🙂

      Enjoy the new normal for a while.

      🙂


    138. lobo91
      148 | March 15, 2020 7:41 pm

      I’m just hoping that they don’t quarantine the prison. I really don’t want to be stuck there for 2 weeks.


    139. Brick
      149 | March 15, 2020 7:54 pm

      I’m seeing in the Twitterverse that the first dose of Covid-19 vaccine to be trialed here…TOMORROW.


    140. coldwarrior
      150 | March 15, 2020 8:07 pm

      walked 18 with my bro at my CC. then dinner and drinks with his wife and my wife and kids in the club.

      things is good.


    141. rain of lead
      151 | March 15, 2020 8:18 pm

      https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/03/15/now-is-not-the-time-to-forcibly-close-restaurants/#more-186491

      Supermarkets are closing early and opening late while trying to stem panic and fulfill customer demand. Now is exactly the wrong time to limit food choices and push more people into those retail food stores.

      No advance notice. No time to prepare or plan… just an immediate order.

      Imagine what will happen tomorrow morning in Ohio and Illinois at grocery stores.


    142. Aussie Infidel
      152 | March 15, 2020 8:37 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      I’m just hoping that they don’t quarantine the prison. I really don’t want to be stuck there for 2 weeks.

      NOT 2 weeks but 2 weeks AFTER the last case is removed from the prison !

      Little ray of sunshine is me!

      🙂


    143. lobo91
      153 | March 15, 2020 8:40 pm


    144. Aussie Infidel
      154 | March 15, 2020 8:41 pm

      Buckeye Abroad wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Buckeye Abroad wrote:
      @ Aussie Infidel:
      You do know that the Casino was knocked down after the Christchurch earthquake! Fortunately it didn’t pancake and all the gamblers won big time and got out alive.

      I did not know that. Damn shame.

      You can’t keep a good casino down for long however.

      There is a brand new casino where the old one stood. Twice as good!

      🙂


    145. eaglesoars
      155 | March 15, 2020 8:43 pm

      Brick wrote:

      I’m seeing in the Twitterverse that the first dose of Covid-19 vaccine to be trialed here…TOMORROW.

      Coronavirus vaccine starts clinical trials in the US on Monday – but it will be up to a year before it is ready for use

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8115201/Government-official-Coronavirus-vaccine-trial-starts-Monday.html


    146. AZfederalist
      156 | March 15, 2020 8:46 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      but it will be up to a year before it is ready for use

      So I guess we all just shut down for a year


    147. eaglesoars
      157 | March 15, 2020 8:48 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      Supermarkets are closing early and opening late while trying to stem panic and fulfill customer demand.

      And disinfect. Needed fresh veggies, hopped over to Wegman’s. They’re new hours starting tomorrow 6 am – 11 pm. That cuts an hour at either end so they can disinfect.

      There was almost zero fresh meat – or they had already moved it to the back so they could clean the shelving. I have stuff in the freezer, I’m ok. Zero toilet paper, got more paper towels. Most of the fresh stuff was fine – no potatoes, tho BUT got my lovely watercress and all the greens and fruit I needed.

      And chocolate. So we’re good.


    148. eaglesoars
      158 | March 15, 2020 8:49 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      hey, why did futures tank after the Fed cut the rate? Because now they’re out of ammo? I’m not getting this………..


    149. Brick
      159 | March 15, 2020 9:06 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      When you figure that out…find out why precious metals rode the same roller coaster DOWN during last week’s breaker tripping, triple dip?


    150. eaglesoars
      160 | March 15, 2020 9:15 pm

      Brick wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      When you figure that out…find out why precious metals rode the same roller coaster DOWN during last week’s breaker tripping, triple dip?

      They went down AFTER they went up = which tells me it became a sell situation for people who needed cash. That kind of movement always triggers margin calls.


    151. 161 | March 15, 2020 9:17 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:
      Wasn’t there some ‘team’ we were folding for?


    152. eaglesoars
      162 | March 15, 2020 9:27 pm

      Joe says his VP pic will definitely be a woman and SCOTUS pic will definitely be BLACK woman.

      I dunno. If gender is a social construct, maybe that opens the field up a bit…


    153. Aussie Infidel
      163 | March 15, 2020 9:43 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Joe says his VP pic will definitely be a woman and SCOTUS pic will definitely be BLACK woman.

      I dunno. If gender is a social construct, maybe that opens the field up a bit…

      I was listening intently to Joe and for the life of me I couldn’t understand the points he was trying to make. It sounded like gibberish and a bunch of truncated talking points connected by …. well nothing really.

      The poor guy has totally lost it.

      You could see in Bernie’s eyes just a hint of compassion. He knew that Joe was drowning in his own confused words, all on his own …….. why hold his head under?

      🙂


    154. Aussie Infidel
      164 | March 15, 2020 9:45 pm

      Brick wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      When you figure that out…find out why precious metals rode the same roller coaster DOWN during last week’s breaker tripping, triple dip?

      Dow back up just a smidgeon under two thousand!

      Amazing

      🙂


    155. Aussie Infidel
      165 | March 15, 2020 9:47 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Brick wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      When you figure that out…find out why precious metals rode the same roller coaster DOWN during last week’s breaker tripping, triple dip?

      They went down AFTER they went up = which tells me it became a sell situation for people who needed cash. That kind of movement always triggers margin calls.

      To me it looked as if the market went south of 23000 , realised that was waaaay too far and bounced back a second time now to what appears to be the current floor.

      But what the hell do I know?

      🙂


    156. coldwarrior
      166 | March 15, 2020 9:49 pm

      I just had a run in with the local jag off cops for using a laser to aim my telescope.


    157. coldwarrior
      167 | March 15, 2020 9:49 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      I won


    158. coldwarrior
      168 | March 15, 2020 9:49 pm

      Effing jagoff


    159. eaglesoars
      169 | March 15, 2020 9:50 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      It sounded like gibberish and a bunch of truncated talking points connected by …. well nothing really.

      focus group jargon


    160. Aussie Infidel
      170 | March 15, 2020 9:51 pm

      Oil selling $31 – $33 a barrel currently

      Trump must be looking hard to keep the frackers in business long enough to pick up the up-side.

      FINALLY , mostly due to embarrassment I think the local gas stations have dropped their prices a whole …. drum roll …. 7 cents a litre!

      Bastards!


    161. Aussie Infidel
      171 | March 15, 2020 9:53 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      I just had a run in with the local jag off cops for using a laser to aim my telescope.

      Whaaaat?

      Do you mean the cops pointed their LASER at you while you were using your scope?


    162. Aussie Infidel
      172 | March 15, 2020 9:55 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      Ohhh NOW I understand.

      They were trying to complain about you using your green LASER to aim your scope.

      I suppose they gave you some story about targeting aircraft with a green LASER.

      Morons!

      Sheesh!


    163. Aussie Infidel
      173 | March 15, 2020 9:56 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      It sounded like gibberish and a bunch of truncated talking points connected by …. well nothing really.

      focus group jargon

      Sounds as if Joe’s focus group was ‘pissed as farts’ in that case!

      🙂


    164. coldwarrior
      174 | March 15, 2020 9:58 pm

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      I asked the wad what year he got his pilot’s license.

      And if he understands how to read a sectional.

      And then I told him to call his boss and let me talk to him.

      He refused. So I called his boss at home.

      I win


    165. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      175 | March 15, 2020 9:59 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      My moronic governor just closed schools for two weeks. Still no verified cases in my state. Four undergoing testing currently.

      That is seriously stupid.

      The Law of Unintended Consequences is about to come the Governor’s way!

      Remember that children have found to be resistant to exhibiting the symptoms of this virus. They have been locked away together generating a nice little infection centre.

      Imagine all of the kids now at home.Unsupervised !
      parents are working and can’t afford to stay home soo…. Guess who steps up to do the childcare?
      Grandparents.
      Those most vulnerable to Covid-19 looking after the super-spreaders.

      What could possibly go wrong?

      They already planned for that. He said not to let them stay with grandparents. Or send them to daycares. Employers are to give “liberal” sick days and vacation days. Crash the economy.

      Also, Liberal logic in action. Keep the kids out of school. Yet, he wants them all to go to school to have free breakfast and lunch.


    166. Aussie Infidel
      176 | March 15, 2020 9:59 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      I just had a run in with the local jag off cops for using a laser to aim my telescope.

      Wait until you tell them that you are attempting to bounce your green LASER off the moon’s reflectors. They will charge you with targeting ET! and causing eye damage to Small Greys!


    167. Aussie Infidel
      177 | March 15, 2020 10:01 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      @ Aussie Infidel:
      I asked the wad what year he got his pilot’s license.

      And if he understands how to read a sectional.

      And then I told him to call his boss and let me talk to him.

      He refused. So I called his boss at home.

      I win

      Oh I wish I could have heard THAT conversation!

      HEH!

      🙂


    168. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      178 | March 15, 2020 10:03 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:
      Wasn’t there some ‘team’ we were folding for?

      Yeah, but I just went anonymous for now since I can’t remember anything anymore.


    169. Aussie Infidel
      179 | March 15, 2020 10:04 pm

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      Also, Liberal logic in action. Keep the kids out of school. Yet, he wants them all to go to school to have free breakfast and lunch.

      Seriously?
      Your shit for brains governor actually suggested that?

      In that case I’d move states in case he declared nuclear war on Lichtenstein

      🙂


    170. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      180 | March 15, 2020 10:08 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      Also, Liberal logic in action. Keep the kids out of school. Yet, he wants them all to go to school to have free breakfast and lunch.

      Seriously?
      Your shit for brains governor actually suggested that?

      In that case I’d move states in case he declared nuclear war on Lichtenstein

      Yep and all the schools have sent out the notice. THey want as many kids as possible to attend free breakfast and lunch at the designated schools. Ingenious.


    171. Aussie Infidel
      181 | March 15, 2020 10:09 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      Joe says his VP pic will definitely be a woman and SCOTUS pic will definitely be BLACK woman.

      I dunno. If gender is a social construct, maybe that opens the field up a bit…

      I can just see Joe patting his VP’s arse and ‘smelling her hair’.

      Creepy Joe at his best!

      I do hope the poor lady never gets to see Joe’s party trick. You know the one involving his curly leg hairs.

      🙂


    172. Aussie Infidel
      182 | March 15, 2020 10:11 pm

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      Also, Liberal logic in action. Keep the kids out of school. Yet, he wants them all to go to school to have free breakfast and lunch.

      Seriously?
      Your shit for brains governor actually suggested that?

      In that case I’d move states in case he declared nuclear war on Lichtenstein

      Yep and all the schools have sent out the notice. THey want as many kids as possible to attend free breakfast and lunch at the designated schools. Ingenious.

      Obviously your Governor has a VERY poor belief in his electors and their ability to care for their children.

      Oh the hubris of the ‘would be’ elite class.


    173. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      183 | March 15, 2020 10:15 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      Also, Liberal logic in action. Keep the kids out of school. Yet, he wants them all to go to school to have free breakfast and lunch.

      Seriously?
      Your shit for brains governor actually suggested that?

      In that case I’d move states in case he declared nuclear war on Lichtenstein

      Yep and all the schools have sent out the notice. THey want as many kids as possible to attend free breakfast and lunch at the designated schools. Ingenious.

      Obviously your Governor has a VERY poor belief in his electors and their ability to care for their children.

      Oh the hubris of the ‘would be’ elite class.

      He’s a liberal. Two prong assault. Crash the economy. Boost the numbers on an entitlement program. Win/win.


    174. Aussie Infidel
      184 | March 15, 2020 10:19 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:
      Actually we had a similar problem here in NZ with the socialist Prime Minister.

      A ex military organisation that I belong to was providing uniforms, sports gear and breakfast and lunch to a free Charter School for poor kind. The school has only been in operation for 4 years and it’s now in the top 20 schools in the country. The kids were the worst of the worst academically and now they sent 5% to university 10% to the armed forces and the balance all get apprenticeships with local businesses, because the employers know what they are getting… good guys and gals.

      So PM Ardern and her loopy Cabinet tried to abolish all Charter schools and force these kids back into hell hole schools run by the socialists teachers’ union. Alas several of the Charter Schools were Maori Charters and some were doing very well too. Ardern was called a RACIST and she quickly backed off. So Our pet military Charter School survived, thank goodness.


    175. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      185 | March 15, 2020 10:22 pm

      Got to see ray tracing in action in a game while playing today, so cool. Kind of a geek thing, but it was so awesome seeing light and shadow react like the real world.


    176. Aussie Infidel
      186 | March 15, 2020 10:23 pm

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      Also, Liberal logic in action. Keep the kids out of school. Yet, he wants them all to go to school to have free breakfast and lunch.

      Seriously?
      Your shit for brains governor actually suggested that?

      In that case I’d move states in case he declared nuclear war on Lichtenstein

      Yep and all the schools have sent out the notice. THey want as many kids as possible to attend free breakfast and lunch at the designated schools. Ingenious.

      Obviously your Governor has a VERY poor belief in his electors and their ability to care for their children.

      Oh the hubris of the ‘would be’ elite class.

      He’s a liberal. Two prong assault. Crash the economy. Boost the numbers on an entitlement program. Win/win.

      Still everything’s relative mate. You’ve only got a State in the thrall of a liberal! We have a whole country in the thrall of a socialist PM.

      The only thing that keeps Ardern in check is her conservative / populist NZ First Party coalition.


    177. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      187 | March 15, 2020 10:24 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:
      Actually we had a similar problem here in NZ with the socialist Prime Minister.

      A ex military organisation that I belong to was providing uniforms, sports gear and breakfast and lunch to a free Charter School for poor kind. The school has only been in operation for 4 years and it’s now in the top 20 schools in the country. The kids were the worst of the worst academically and now they sent 5% to university 10% to the armed forces and the balance all get apprenticeships with local businesses, because the employers know what they are getting… good guys and gals.

      So PM Ardern and her loopy Cabinet tried to abolish all Charter schools and force these kids back into hell hole schools run by the socialists teachers’ union. Alas several of the Charter Schools were Maori Charters and some were doing very well too. Ardern was called a RACIST and she quickly backed off. So Our pet military Charter School survived, thank goodness.

      You were lucky. I’ve seen situations where those helping the schools were called racist and the ones destroying it were called the heroes. Happened with some native charter schools in my area. Totally reversed reality. The charters folded and the kids were put back into the failed leftist system.


    178. Deplorable Martian Overlord
      188 | March 15, 2020 10:26 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      Also, Liberal logic in action. Keep the kids out of school. Yet, he wants them all to go to school to have free breakfast and lunch.

      Seriously?
      Your shit for brains governor actually suggested that?

      In that case I’d move states in case he declared nuclear war on Lichtenstein

      Yep and all the schools have sent out the notice. THey want as many kids as possible to attend free breakfast and lunch at the designated schools. Ingenious.

      Obviously your Governor has a VERY poor belief in his electors and their ability to care for their children.

      Oh the hubris of the ‘would be’ elite class.

      He’s a liberal. Two prong assault. Crash the economy. Boost the numbers on an entitlement program. Win/win.

      Still everything’s relative mate. You’ve only got a State in the thrall of a liberal! We have a whole country in the thrall of a socialist PM.

      The only thing that keeps Ardern in check is her conservative / populist NZ First Party coalition.

      Yeah, governor dipshit also swore that if elected he wouldn’t run for anything else. Now that he’s termed out, he got one phone call from Schumer and lo and behold he’s now running for Senate. And no one on the left is calling him out on his hypocrisy.


    179. Aussie Infidel
      189 | March 15, 2020 10:26 pm

      Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:

      He’s a liberal. Two prong assault. Crash the economy. Boost the numbers on an entitlement program. Win/win.

      Great Plan!

      NOT

      Where does the moron think he’s going to raise his tax?


    180. eaglesoars
      190 | March 15, 2020 10:31 pm

      so I’ve been feeling sorry for myself about my plans being put on hold. Then I read this…..

      In my state they closed all the restaurants, except for take-out, two days before my girlfriends birthday, three days before mine. Most of the birthday cards I have received this week included restaurant gift cards.

      After a embarrassingly low game last week at my bowling league, I practiced daily to get my average up from 74 to 90 (at great expense); league games are now cancelled indefinitely. (90 is a good score in candlepin)

      We cancelled a flight booked on JetBlue; because we purchased ‘trip insurance’ we get ten percent back in cash, sixty percent in “Travel Bank” credit and lose the rest. If we hadn’t bought trip insurance, under the state of emergency, we would have gotten 100% back.

      And I just renewed my gym membership, which is now closed.

      I turn 70 on Thursday. As a friend from high school emailed me; “You were 20 in the Seventies; and 70 in the Twenties”, Happy Birthday.


    181. eaglesoars
      191 | March 15, 2020 10:45 pm

      ugh

      2 emergency medicine doctors, one in New Jersey and the other in Washington State, are in critical condition as a result of coronavirus, the American College of Emergency Physicians said

      https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1239323007685996546


    182. Aussie Infidel
      192 | March 15, 2020 10:48 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      The provisions of Force Majeure will do that kind of shit to you. You never think that the Force Majeure conditions will ever kick in …. until they do!

      Have a Happy Birthday Eagles. Why not go on a picnic instead and Bar-B-Que steaks and have a cake and all the trimmings?

      Even if you have to sit 6 feet away from your guests

      🙂


    183. Aussie Infidel
      193 | March 15, 2020 10:49 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      ugh

      2 emergency medicine doctors, one in New Jersey and the other in Washington State, are in critical condition as a result of coronavirus, the American College of Emergency Physicians said

      https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1239323007685996546

      These are the times when medicos earn their stripes.

      I don’t envy their $$$$ one little bit!


    184. eaglesoars
      194 | March 15, 2020 10:51 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      Have a Happy Birthday Eagles

      NO NO!! That wasn’t me, that was just some guy on another blog moaning about what this shutdown has done to his life.

      I just had to postpone my recon trip to Knoxville, is all. I’m royally pissed, but I can’t risk it.

      I’m going to bed. Hubby and I decided tomorrow is a Vaycay. No work. Make it a long weekend.


    185. Aussie Infidel
      195 | March 15, 2020 11:02 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Good for both of you Eagles

      🙂


    186. 196 | March 15, 2020 11:23 pm

      @ Deplorable Martian Overlord:
      Me too.


    187. 197 | March 15, 2020 11:56 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      rain of lead wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:

      humans are smart
      people are stupid panicky animals

      i have never seen this level of idiocy.

      Y’all ain’t seen nothin’ yet. They’re just getting started.


    188. rain of lead
      199 | March 16, 2020 6:37 am

      so, all these buisnesses that are being forced to close and all of the employees that will lose income….they get a tax break. right?

      snort
      thought so


    189. eaglesoars
      200 | March 16, 2020 6:58 am

      Just got back from the grocery store. Their hours are now 6-11. There were about 100 customers, not too bad. But nothing had changed from yesterday evening, there were no overnite deliveries. They’ve changed their checkout lines protocol. You don’t pick your line, you get in line and go to the first available.

      There is a lot of meat, just not the stuff you prep yourself. It’s all cold cuts or their pre-prepped meal. However, I did snag the St. Pat’s corned beef dinner. That will hold us for 3 days.

      NO POTATOES!! What’s up with THAT?

      Still no toilet paper. BUT they had 2 of their 12-pack tissues, limit 2 to a customer. As there were only 2 left, I just took one.

      Cleaned out of frozen veggies. But my freezer is ok, I think.

      The funniest thing – as you drive into the shopping center to get to the grocery store, the first place is LA Fitness Center. The parking lot was PACKED. I’m not usually up at 6 am, so I don’t know if that’s the norm or not, but I do know there are a lot of obsessed people around here. I got a Nordic Trak for less than a membership there. jeez.

      I’m going to see if I can grab a hour.


    190. Brick
      201 | March 16, 2020 9:17 am

      So, Capitol Complex Harrisburg is down and out for 2 weeks for non-essentials who cannot telework…which unfortunately/or fortunately depending on how you look at it, is all of my people in both sections.

      I was headed in and MY boss called and said don’t bother, but stand by.

      https://www.oa.pa.gov/Pages/AlertDetails.aspx

      So now…we wait…for it to hopefully warm up sufficiently, grab Dammit dog, hop in the boat, and go fishing. 🙂


    191. RIX
      202 | March 16, 2020 9:19 am

      @ eaglesoars:
      Toilet paper? What is that of which you speak? Harder to find than a snipe.
      I had no luck yestery, so I will try again today.


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