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Good Friday 2020 : Day 26 of the Great American Lockdown

by Bumr50 ( 123 Comments › )
Filed under Open thread at April 10th, 2020 - 6:15 am

This has to end soon.

I was laid off Wednesday so I figured I’d do something useful.

Oilfield is a bloodbath right now, and it’s mostly non-Kung Flu related, at least in the US.

Here’s some data on the part that is:

https://www.rystadenergy.com/globalassets/pdfs/rystad-energy_covid-19-report_7-april_2020_final-public-version.pdf?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosgenerate&stream=top

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123 Responses to “Good Friday 2020 : Day 26 of the Great American Lockdown”
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  1. 1 | April 10, 2020 6:38 am

    It’s been almost 2 weeks since a young woman and her eight-year-old daughter were murdered. The alleged perpetrator is still at large. Please help find him.

    https://www.kwch.com/content/news/Woman-girl-found-fatally-shot-in-S-Wichita-home-569238561.html


  2. RIX
    2 | April 10, 2020 8:42 am

    He is Risen!


  3. coldwarrior
    3 | April 10, 2020 8:47 am

    thx, Bumr!


  4. coldwarrior
    5 | April 10, 2020 9:10 am

    RIX wrote:

    He is Risen!

    not till next week…

    🙂

    orthodox, we need an extra week to make perogies and kielbasa and such


  5. RIX
    7 | April 10, 2020 9:34 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    He is Risen!

    not till next week…

    orthodox, we need an extra week to make perogies and kielbasa and such

    I screwed that up anyway. The Resurrection is EASTER Sunday, not Good Friday.
    The ghost of Sister Mary Virginia will return and slap the snot out of me.
    How are you?


  6. RIX
    8 | April 10, 2020 9:37 am

    Ok, everybody is going stir crazy. So I watched the Hangover again last night.
    It is still hilarious and a great diversion.


  7. coldwarrior
    9 | April 10, 2020 9:51 am

    RIX wrote:

    The ghost of Sister Mary Virginia will return and slap the snot out of me.
    How are you?

    i had ‘the nuns’…i get it.


  8. coldwarrior
    10 | April 10, 2020 9:52 am

    RIX wrote:

    How are you?

    waiting for the intubation pain in my throat to stop hurting…

    rads and chemo start at the end of the month after the incisions heal.


  9. coldwarrior
    11 | April 10, 2020 9:54 am

    https://www.spaceweather.com/images2020/09apr20/voltagemaps.jpg

    the lighter the color the more likely failure

    https://www.spaceweather.com/

    https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2019SW002329

    WHERE THE POWER GOES OUT: A solar superstorm can make your lights go out. New maps released by the USGS show where the power is most likely to fail: The Denver metropolitan area, the Pacific northwest, the Atlantic seaboard, and a cluster of Midwestern states near the US-Canadian Border. Bright yellow and orange trace the trouble spots across the contiguous USA:

    Power companies have long been wary of the sun. Solar storms can cause strong electric currents to flow through commercial power lines–so strong that the lines can’t handle it. Fuses blow, transformers melt, and circuit breakers trip. The most famous geomagnetic power outage happened during a space storm in March 1989 when six million people in Quebec lost power for 9 hours.

    Whether or not *your* power goes out during a solar storm depends on two things: (1) The configuration of power lines in your area and (2) the electrical properties of the ground beneath your feet. In areas of more electrically resistive rock, currents struggle to flow through the ground. Instead, they leap up into overhead power lines – a scenario that played out in Quebec in 1989.

    The new maps are possible thanks to Earthscope–a National Science Foundation magnetotelluric survey of the upper 2/3rds of the contiguous USA. Earthscope mapped the electrical properties of deep rock and soil on a continent-spanning grid with points about 70 km apart. USGS researchers led by Greg Lucas and Jeffrey Love combined this information with the layout of modern power lines to estimate peak voltages during a century-class storm.

    They found a huge variation in hazard across the USA. “The largest estimated once-per-century geoelectric field is 27.2 V/km at a site located in Maine, while the lowest estimated once-per-century geoelectric field is 0.02 V/km at a site located in Idaho. That is more than 3 orders of magnitude difference,” they wrote in their research paper “A 100‐year Geoelectric Hazard Analysis for the U.S. High‐Voltage Power Grid.” Notably, some of the most vulnerable regions are near big cities: Denver, Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and Washington, DC.

    To complete the hazard map, the researchers are waiting for a new magnetotelluric survey to cover the rest of the USA. It can’t come soon enough. The last “century-class” geomagnetic storm hit in May 1921 … 99 years ago.


  10. eaglesoars
    13 | April 10, 2020 10:01 am

    Chris Plante has callers who are in med – one actually is a med coder and you wouldn’t BELIEVE the inflated numbers. A 7 page questionnaire, you come in from an auto accident but your answer to the question ‘were you exposed’ is yes, and you croak, guess what you died from. Another is an office nurse and is convinced this is nothing more than an attempt to justify the administrative state.


  11. Deplorable Bumr50
    14 | April 10, 2020 10:12 am

    Owner-operators hold tough, some scrape by, as coronavirus stall saps revenues and loads

    https://www.overdriveonline.com/owner-operators-down-revenue-loads-hope-for-federal-aid/#


  12. coldwarrior
    15 | April 10, 2020 10:14 am

    @ eaglesoars:
    this is insurance fraud and it is a felony.

    we have to do training modules on just this sort of thing every year and then sign legal paperwork that holds us accountable.


  13. eaglesoars
    16 | April 10, 2020 10:15 am

    @ Deplorable Bumr50:

    I’m so sorry to hear about your job troubles. If Trump doesn’t tell these ghouls to fuck right off soon, this is going to be almost impossible to unravel. Mnuchin is saying 4-8 weeks and I’m saying by then there won’t be anyone left to bury us


  14. eaglesoars
    17 | April 10, 2020 10:17 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    this is insurance fraud and it is a felony.

    we have to do training modules on just this sort of thing every year and then sign legal paperwork that holds us accountable.

    but it’s being done at the direction of the Fed gov’t via the CDC. And Deb Birx was very clear about it day before yesterday that this is exactly what’s going on.


  15. RIX
    18 | April 10, 2020 10:19 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    How are you?

    waiting for the intubation pain in my throat to stop hurting…

    rads and chemo start at the end of the month after the incisions heal.

    Hang tough soldier, you will slay the beast.


  16. Deplorable Bumr50
    19 | April 10, 2020 10:22 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    Thanks, but we’re doing good.

    I just don’t think I’ll be working here in the energy sector anytime soon. Like I said, it was happening well before the Chinese flu hit.

    Oversupply and a lack of infrastructure to utilize and export.

    Our company laid off 180 of 300 at our location, and similar numbers are being slashed industry wide. Even in the more cost effective oil producing basins in TX and NM.


  17. eaglesoars
    20 | April 10, 2020 10:26 am

    Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

    Oversupply and a lack of infrastructure to utilize and export.

    sounds like the dairy industry


  18. eaglesoars
    21 | April 10, 2020 10:30 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    To complete the hazard map, the researchers are waiting for a new magnetotelluric survey to cover the rest of the USA.

    our tax dollars doing something actually useful

    I off for a nap


  19. Deplorable Bumr50
    22 | April 10, 2020 10:33 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    Consequence of capital G Globalism.

    We were supposed to be a “service economy.” Whatever that is.

    Produce and sell stuff? Ha!


  20. eaglesoars
    23 | April 10, 2020 1:27 pm

    Oh dear. A pair of mourning doves has built a nest in the hydrangia vine on the deck JUST outside the door. Mia sees birds coming and going and the dog can count. It’s just high enough to be outside her reach but she knows something is there. Lucky for her they aren’t crows, they’d kill her.


  21. Guggi
    24 | April 10, 2020 1:30 pm

    Sorry if this has been already posted:

    “The Role of Vitamin D in Suppressing Cytokine Storm in COVID-19 Patients and Associated Mortality ”

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.08.20058578v1.full.pdf


  22. eaglesoars
    25 | April 10, 2020 1:33 pm

    @ Guggi:

    NO! That’s a new one, thanks. I’ve seen stuff on vitamin C but not D


  23. eaglesoars
    26 | April 10, 2020 1:36 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    Sorry if this has been already posted:

    “The Role of Vitamin D in Suppressing Cytokine Storm in COVID-19 Patients and Associated Mortality ”

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.08.20058578v1.full.pdf

    I have seen the ‘sunlight’ hypothesis, which may end up being about Vit D


  24. ycoldwarrior
    27 | April 10, 2020 1:52 pm

    Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

    Consequence of capital G Globalism.

    globalism is fine if Adam Smith is followed:

    england makes wool, the portuguese make port wine…they trade with each other and each grows wealthier making their product.

    they still both make things that each other needs

    this latest version of globalism isn’t anywhere near what smith had in mind. it is in fact a move toward global socialism/communism.

    you need a strong middle class to prevent revolution according to marx and he is right. gut the middle class by exporting all of their jobs and viola! the revolution can occur.


  25. coldwarrior
    29 | April 10, 2020 1:58 pm

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/newsus/cash-starved-hospitals-and-doctor-groups-cut-staff-amid-pandemic/ar-BB12oUuZ

    hence the reason my employer DID NOT cancel ‘elective’ procedures.


  26. coldwarrior
    30 | April 10, 2020 2:01 pm

    https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/07/new-research-wastewater-community-spread-covid-19/

    more proof that this is all overblown


  27. eaglesoars
    31 | April 10, 2020 3:15 pm

    I just got back from a dog walk so missed this, but apparently Trump is starting a council to open up the country again, business leaders & med personnel from all over the country. Will announce names on Tues.


  28. eaglesoars
    32 | April 10, 2020 3:29 pm

    The FDA has sent out a memo telling people not to use ivermectin on themselves when it’s intended for animals. sheesh. There are some approved uses for people but this isn’t it.

    And remember that paper that went around saying the problem with the virus isn’t the lungs, it’s the hemoglobin? Look at this

    Brooklyn hospital is treating coronavirus patients by extracting their blood, enriching it with oxygen then pumping it back into them when ventilators do not help

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8208571/NYC-hospital-removes-blood-enriches-oxygen-returns-Covid-patients.html


  29. coldwarrior
    33 | April 10, 2020 3:49 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Brooklyn hospital is treating coronavirus patients by extracting their blood, enriching it with oxygen then pumping it back into them when ventilators do not help

    ECMO


  30. eaglesoars
    34 | April 10, 2020 3:51 pm

    Gov Witless in Michigan has gone full Stalin

    People can’t buy seeds to grow their own food

    https://twitter.com/joesichspach/status/1248653376931258370


  31. eaglesoars
    35 | April 10, 2020 3:57 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    ECMO

    don’t know what that is


  32. coldwarrior
    36 | April 10, 2020 4:57 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:

    ECMO

    don’t know what that is

    extra corporial membrane oxygenation

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extracorporeal_membrane_oxygenation


  33. Guggi
    37 | April 10, 2020 5:01 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    And remember that paper that went around saying the problem with the virus isn’t the lungs, it’s the hemoglobin?

    Hi, eagle, could this be related?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucose-6-phosphate_dehydrogenase_deficiency


  34. Guggi
    38 | April 10, 2020 5:11 pm

    Here another study

    Glucose-6-Phosphate Dehydrogenase Enhances Antiviral Response through Downregulation of NADPH Sensor HSCARG and Upregulation of NF-κB Signaling

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4690889/


  35. eaglesoars
    39 | April 10, 2020 5:51 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Assuming I understood a word of it – I don’t think so. This is about a pre-existing condition. The theory I read was simply that the virus attacks the hemoglobin in the red blood cells and there was nothing in there about an innate vulnerability of the cells. There was more speculation about blood types being more susceptible or less susceptible to the infection, given their different antigen configurations.

    Quite a few people have a problem with that theory, mainly that red blood cells don’t provide the environment needed for viral replication, so it makes no sense.

    I’m not qualified to have an opinion. I did find the abstract of a paper from China that hypothesized the same thing, tho, and they had experimental data. I posted it here a few days ago. The problem is that ventilators aren’t working. People go on them and only 20% come off.


  36. eaglesoars
    40 | April 10, 2020 6:37 pm

    2020 is turning out to be a bang-up year all around. It seems Krakatoa has just erupted again.

    https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1248739868299190272


  37. eaglesoars
    41 | April 10, 2020 9:57 pm

    In the People Never Learn Dept, we have this: Pakistan received the N-95 masks they ordered from China.

    They’re made out of underwear.

    https://www.ibtimes.co.in/pakistan-gets-chinese-underwear-n95-masks-816723


  38. Bordm
    42 | April 10, 2020 11:14 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    This statement is at the bottom of the article….
    “(At this moment, we cannot independently verify this video. This piece could well be part of a satirical Pak TV show.)”


  39. AZfederalist
    43 | April 11, 2020 12:22 am

    Bordm wrote:

    This piece could well be part of a satirical Pak TV show

    Except that Pakistan is an islamic country and there is no humor allowed in islamic countries


  40. 44 | April 11, 2020 1:01 am

    Had 2 interviews today. One is with a heavy equipment company for what’s basically a receptionist job. The other is ADT security as an emergency dispatcher.

    Drawback with ADT is training COULD start 4/20, and I’d be giving less than 2 weeks notice and would lose my PTO, about 50 hours. Drawback with the other job is probably not much room to move up. I’d be the 6th member of the team.

    Interview Mon with a dental insurance company.

    Hoping to hear back about an assistant manager job at a pet supply store.

    It’s been insane at work. I probably took 430 calls this week.


  41. 45 | April 11, 2020 1:01 am

    @ right_wing2:
    Sorry, 230 calls.


  42. Aussie Infidel
    47 | April 11, 2020 1:38 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    i had ‘the nuns’…i get it.

    As id I.

    Sister Salene was Irish and came from a family of 13. She was the sole female so she knew how to play rugby. She used to hitch up her full habit to kick off when playing touch football on the blacktop.

    Never got on her bad side. Then there was Sister Sailene who I’d crawl over broken glass for. She used to give me holy pictures for good school work!

    🙂

    Then I went to a Marist school. 1,300 boys from 7 – 18. THATS where I got the shit beaten out my my hand with the cane.

    🙂

    WE all got used to it and NEVER showed any fear or reaction, as a matter of pride!

    🙂

    WE used to steam distill lily flowers and collect the juice as well as rub rosin on your hands to make the cane slip right off. Not sure whether it actually worked but it made us feel better in fighting back secretly.

    HEH!

    We broke into the Headmaster’s office found ‘Little Richard’ his favourite cane. ( narrow big bastard ) that REALLY hurt when talking ‘cuts’ of the cane. We used a scalpel and put a tiny nick in the end, put a piece of horse hair into the micro-crack and shaved off the protruding hair. The next poor sod who was canned with Little Richard suffered because it split lengthwise and ruined it forever. Nobody ever told. It was considered Top Secret and was one of our most famous raids.

    HEH 🙂


  43. Bordm
    48 | April 11, 2020 2:57 am

    @ Aussie Infidel:
    Didn’t get away with anything growing up, dad was USAF, went to Catholic schools 1st-6th and 9th grades, until he retired in 68. JFK asked me if I was going to be a priest when I grew up. I was standing next to Monseigneur McCullough that day, in Fort Worth, when his motorcade passed on the way to Carswell AFB to hop to Love field. JFK saw the Monseigneur, all of us school kids in uniform and stopped to chat with him. Monseigneur patted me on the head and said “here’s a good Catholic boy, he has 5 aunts that are Dominican nuns and an uncle that’s a Dominican priest.
    No matter where we were, even North Dakota, the nuns and priests knew, never caught a break. Amazingly I only had one of my aunts as a teacher and that was in the 9th grade after dad had retired.


  44. 49 | April 11, 2020 6:28 am

    right_wing2 wrote:

    It’s been almost 2 weeks since a young woman and her eight-year-old daughter were murdered. The alleged perpetrator is still at large. Please help find him.

    https://www.kwch.com/content/news/Woman-girl-found-fatally-shot-in-S-Wichita-home-569238561.html

    They got the bastard.


  45. Deplorable Bumr50
    50 | April 11, 2020 6:59 am

    @ right_wing2:

    That’s great news.


  46. Deplorable Bumr50
    51 | April 11, 2020 7:17 am

    @ right_wing2:

    Not so sure about Mooch, unless there’s a plan in place to get rid of QPJ and install her relatively quickly.

    And I honestly don’t think Cuomo wants the job.


  47. rain of lead
    52 | April 11, 2020 7:37 am

    morning y’all


  48. RIX
    53 | April 11, 2020 8:42 am

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/dr-fauci-gives-wave-cnns-jim-acosta-attacks-trump-white-house-presser-video/
    @ Gateway Pundit
    Dr Fauci is a medi favorite and any criticism of him is considered heresy.
    But take a look at this, Whacha think?


  49. eaglesoars
    54 | April 11, 2020 8:45 am

    right_wing2 wrote:

    https://www.chicksonright.com/blog/2020/04/10/devastating-new-poll-shows-most-democrats-want-to-drop-biden-in-favor-of-andrew-cuomo/

    I still think it’ll be Biden/Michelle O.

    There is no way America elects such an extreme, New York liberal like Cuomo.

    Crimeny, we elected Obama TWICE.

    So, overnight, Gov. Witless of Michigan, banned motorized watercraft from the lakes. Canoes, kayaks, ok, but nothing with an engine. I have no idea what the point is, I’d really like to see this harridan carried out on a rail


  50. coldwarrior
    55 | April 11, 2020 8:51 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    So, overnight, Gov. Witless of Michigan, banned motorized watercraft from the lakes. Canoes, kayaks, ok, but nothing with an engine. I have no idea what the point is, I’d really like to see this harridan carried out on a rail

    none of that matters if no one enforces. but the police will.


  51. RIX
    56 | April 11, 2020 8:56 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:

    So, overnight, Gov. Witless of Michigan, banned motorized watercraft from the lakes. Canoes, kayaks, ok, but nothing with an engine. I have no idea what the point is, I’d really like to see this harridan carried out on a rail

    none of that matters if no one enforces. but the police will.

    The police in L.A busted a guy for paddle boarding alone. No one else in the water.
    I guess that he was arrested for having no social separation with the Pacific Ocean.


  52. eaglesoars
    57 | April 11, 2020 9:00 am

    RIX wrote:

    But take a look at this, Whacha think?

    I’m much less concerned about that than I am about this ‘immunity certificates’ garbage.

    Fauci is very good at saying what he thinks people want to hear. On Martha McCallum he trashed the models, and said the certs were just something being considered, maybe, who knows, down the road, not there yet, yada yada.

    Yet he advocated for a federally imposed nationwide shutdown – unconstitutional as that is – base not on the models but on glaringly incomplete data. He wants complete testing before we can open up, but wanted complete shutdown based on NY parameters.

    He didn’t think stopping flights from China would help because it would simply slow the spread but wanted a shutdown because – it would slow the spread. Some hospitals are overwhelmed while others are shutting down because there’s no work, the Mercy and Comfort ships are idle, the FEMA hospital set up in Washington state has been returned because there are no patients.

    Does anybody remember when the Lancet published probable Iraqi deaths from the U.S. invasion and the number was astronomical? Because, as it turned out, they had taken the stats from the 1st Battle of Fallujah and extrapolated them over the entire country.

    That’s exactly what’s happened here. Fauci, et. al., are accustomed to being ‘the smartest people in the room’ and treated accordingly. It isn’t true, it rarely is, and that kind of mentality always ends up stripping other people of their innate human dignity. Fauci’s lab rats.


  53. coldwarrior
    58 | April 11, 2020 9:00 am

    so…if a governor decides that you can’t buy certain items in a store that is already open and essential, isnt that a violation of interstate trade.

    many seeds and plants come out of the south and other states. there is a plant in ohio that supplies pavers to the local big boxes here…i am sure that there is a similar situation in MI where that power hungry governor is issuing out foolish edicts.


  54. coldwarrior
    59 | April 11, 2020 9:02 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Some hospitals are overwhelmed while others are shutting down because there’s no work,

    mrs coldwarrior’s level 1 trauma center has forbidden anyone to work over time and is sending staff home.

    my hospitals are just fine as we went ahead and did our elective surgeries much to the chagrin of the little marxists governor. business as usual.


  55. coldwarrior
    60 | April 11, 2020 9:03 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    That’s exactly what’s happened here. Fauci, et. al., are accustomed to being ‘the smartest people in the room’ and treated accordingly. It isn’t true, it rarely is, and that kind of mentality always ends up stripping other people of their innate human dignity. Fauci’s lab rats.

    trump is giving them plenty of rope.


  56. eaglesoars
    61 | April 11, 2020 9:07 am

    This is the Daily Wire report on an anonymously sourced WaPo report (seriously, don’t these people have better things to do than pick at each other’s navel lint?)

    In its report on Trump’s push to reopen the economy sooner rather than later, the Post stresses that health experts are warning about the potentially “disastrous” consequences of easing restrictions prematurely, “because U.S. leaders have not built up the capacity for alternatives to stay-at-home orders — such as the mass testing, large-scale contact tracing and targeted quarantines that have been used in other countries to suppress the virus.”

    I am unaware of any country that has mass-testing, large-scale contact tracing and targeted quarantines (nice verbiage, there), does anybody have any idea – oh, wait! You mean CHINA??!!

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/report-trump-pushing-behind-closed-doors-to-reopen-much-of-u-s-next-month


  57. eaglesoars
    62 | April 11, 2020 9:09 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    i am sure that there is a similar situation in MI where that power hungry governor

    she’s auditioning for Biden’s VP slot. She doesn’t have to impress Biden, she has to get the Bernie Bros


  58. RIX
    63 | April 11, 2020 9:12 am

    https://www.weaselzippers.us/446918-watch-man-without-face-mask-dragged-off-of-bus-by-police/
    @WZ
    Watch Philly cops drag a guy off of the bus for not wearing a face mask.
    “Ve haf veys to make you talk.”


  59. coldwarrior
    64 | April 11, 2020 9:15 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    large-scale contact tracing and targeted quarantines

    i will faraday my phone if this shit starts


  60. eaglesoars
    65 | April 11, 2020 9:16 am

    @ RIX:

    Because somebody ‘reported’ him.


  61. RIX
    66 | April 11, 2020 9:19 am

    @ eaglesoars:
    That’s exactly what’s happened here. Fauci, et. al., are accustomed to being ‘the smartest people in the room’ and treated accordingly. It isn’t true, it rarely is, and that kind of mentality always ends up stripping other people of their innate human dignity. Fauci’s lab rats.

    What concerns me is the civil liberties grab and people meekly going along.
    This is an emergency , but two bit pols are enjoying the near dictatorial power.
    That annoying Governor in Michigan is just one example. Another is the Vermont Governor mandating that Costco can not sell clothes , only groceries. Because? Never mind, just obey until I give you further direction.


  62. eaglesoars
    67 | April 11, 2020 9:21 am

    There’s nothing in the article about bird-to-human transmission. It’s H7N3.

    Industry scrambles to stop fatal bird flu in South Carolina

    https://www.lancasterfarming.com/news/associated_press/industry-scrambles-to-stop-fatal-bird-flu-in-south-carolina/article_f8bfd2c2-1e26-5690-aedf-961dd2c83873.html


  63. eaglesoars
    69 | April 11, 2020 9:22 am

    RIX wrote:

    but two bit pols are enjoying the near dictatorial power.

    And getting away with it. Which is a serious incentive to keep the lockdown in place.


  64. RIX
    70 | April 11, 2020 9:22 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    @ RIX:

    Because somebody ‘reported’ him.

    Right,, but that directive lasted ONE day. We are turning each other in now ala block committees in Cuba.


  65. eaglesoars
    71 | April 11, 2020 9:23 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    this has been here since november

    and that’s the missing variable in the models


  66. RIX
    72 | April 11, 2020 9:24 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    but two bit pols are enjoying the near dictatorial power.

    And getting away with it. Which is a serious incentive to keep the lockdown in place.

    Exactly. That kind of power is intoxicating and hard to give up.


  67. Deplorable Bumr50
    73 | April 11, 2020 9:25 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Half of our frac crew were suffering high fever and cough right after Thanksgiving.

    I was in close contact for 15 hours a day, 8 days a stretch and never got sick, although I was sure I was going to.


  68. Deplorable Bumr50
    74 | April 11, 2020 9:29 am

    The thing that’s worrying me now is that the lawyers are starting to catch up to this thing, which means that even when the economy “reopens,” the idiotic things we’ll be forced to do will still increase.


  69. coldwarrior
    75 | April 11, 2020 9:30 am

    @ Deplorable Bumr50:

    our ER staffs were all sick, and many patients very ill tested negative for flu a and b


  70. coldwarrior
    76 | April 11, 2020 9:34 am

    @ Deplorable Bumr50:

    there are a couple things i do like that might come out of this…wipe off the shopping buggy handle and your hands with a sanitizer towel.

    use a pen to put in your pin when paying

    those two things actually make sense and might help next flu season.

    there are too many stupid people who don’t understand how to don and doff masks and gloves for that to ever help out. also…these masks…

    good god.


  71. eaglesoars
    77 | April 11, 2020 9:45 am

    Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

    The thing that’s worrying me now is that the lawyers are starting to catch up to this thing, which means that even when the economy “reopens,” the idiotic things we’ll be forced to do will still increase.

    There ARE lawyers around who specialize in smacking down the Gov Witless scum of the world


  72. Deplorable Bumr50
    78 | April 11, 2020 9:50 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Our Giant Eagle has been dealing with employees that have severe latex allergies. There were signs last week, but they’re gone now.

    I’m not using a mask, but have both half and full face respirators that can be cleaned with several sets of cans if push comes to shove. P100 plus vapor and gas protection. Not perfect. I don’t know why I’d ever need it unless I was going into an area with lots of covid-19 patients.

    Everything sticks to gloves, and I imagine they spread virus more than help.

    But OTOH anyone who’s had to take basic CPR for work SHOULD know how to glove up and deglove.


  73. Deplorable Bumr50
    79 | April 11, 2020 9:51 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    Sorry. I wasn’t blanket lawyer shaming.


  74. eaglesoars
    80 | April 11, 2020 9:56 am

    Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:

    Sorry. I wasn’t blanket lawyer shaming.

    Oh feel free, I do it all the time. I wasn’t defending lawyers, per se, I was just pointing out that there just might be hope


  75. eaglesoars
    81 | April 11, 2020 10:14 am

    https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger/status/1248414743997476865

    If Biden is serious about winning he needs to accuse Trump of willingness to kill people.

    Now when did I say the next hat trick would be to accuse Trump of murder? It was before the virus, but it was obvious then that’s what they were going for


  76. RIX
    83 | April 11, 2020 10:33 am

    https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/04/11/kentuckys-dem-governor-reminds-citizens-about-the-punishment-that-awaits-if-their-license-plate-is-spotted-outside-easter-church-services-or-other-mass-gatherings/
    @ Twitchy
    Now listen up peasants. If the Governor of Kentucky spots your license plate outside of church tomorrow you are in serious shit, I mean serious.
    He will quarantine you for fourteen days. Next I guess a reeducation camp.
    As you were.


  77. lobo91
    84 | April 11, 2020 11:16 am

    Next thing you know, we’ll have to negotiate this before going to the store:


  78. eaglesoars
    85 | April 11, 2020 11:18 am

    Well, this is gonna get blocked if Bill Gates has anything to say about it

    A vaccine against coronavirus could be ready as soon as September, the British scientist leading one of the world’s most advanced efforts has said.

    Sarah Gilbert, professor of vaccinology at Oxford University, told The Times she was “80 per cent confident” that the vaccine being developed by her team would work, with human trials due to begin in the next fortnight.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/coronavirus-vaccine-could-be-ready-by-september-flmwl257x

    the rest is behind a paywall but click if you so desire……


  79. eaglesoars
    86 | April 11, 2020 11:20 am

    @ lobo91:

    we’ve waited far to long to start hanging people – pour encourager les autres


  80. lobo91
    87 | April 11, 2020 11:26 am

    One of his periodic moments of sanity:

    Bill Maher: Yes, Let’s Call It The Chinese Virus


  81. coldwarrior
    88 | April 11, 2020 12:14 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    One of his periodic moments of sanity:

    Bill Maher: Yes, Let’s Call It The Chinese Virus

    virii are named for where they come from

    marburg, ebola, crimea…

    and then, this:

    https://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/notes/2015/naming-new-diseases/en/

    “In recent years, several new human infectious diseases have emerged. The use of names such as ‘swine flu’ and ‘Middle East Respiratory Syndrome’ has had unintended negative impacts by stigmatizing certain communities or economic sectors,” says Dr Keiji Fukuda, Assistant Director-General for Health Security, WHO. “This may seem like a trivial issue to some, but disease names really do matter to the people who are directly affected. We’ve seen certain disease names provoke a backlash against members of particular religious or ethnic communities, create unjustified barriers to travel, commerce and trade, and trigger needless slaughtering of food animals. This can have serious consequences for peoples’ lives and livelihoods.”

    which is of course, bullshit.


  82. coldwarrior
    89 | April 11, 2020 12:19 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    which is in direct confrontation with this:

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/viruses/types.htm

    ex: The name starts with the virus type, followed by the place the virus was isolated, followed by the virus strain number, the year isolated, and finally, the virus subtype.

    A / Sydney / 05 / 97 (H3N2)


  83. AZfederalist
    90 | April 11, 2020 12:30 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    So, overnight, Gov. Witless of Michigan, banned motorized watercraft from the lakes. Canoes, kayaks, ok, but nothing with an engine. I have no idea what the point is, I’d really like to see this harridan carried out on a rail

    That makes zero sense. These restrictions have become nothing more than arbitrary decisions by little tin-pot wannabe dictators. Law enforcement in those places have taken vows to protect the rights of citizens, it is up them to refuse to carry out such blatantly illegal orders. If they do, this should be an indication to the citizens of who is on the side of the law and who on the side of fascism.


  84. AZfederalist
    91 | April 11, 2020 12:37 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    And getting away with it. Which is a serious incentive to keep the lockdown in place.

    I don’t think they will continue to get away with it; people initially believed the dire predictions but now that this is shaping up to be the equivalent or less of the flu, people are starting to push back. There are chinks in the statists’ armor and this won’t be able to be held back for long. Those statists better be careful when the widespread disobedience starts and roll those rules back. Remember the 55 MPH speed limit?


  85. AZfederalist
    92 | April 11, 2020 12:41 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    There ARE lawyers around who specialize in smacking down the Gov Witless scum of the world

    That’s what I’m counting on. Apparently a group of people in Florida where Gov. Huckabee lives are taking the state to court of the closing of their private beaches under the premise that this is a “government taking” without compensation. Other suits are sure to follow; and they are correct.


  86. eaglesoars
    93 | April 11, 2020 12:46 pm

    One more in a long line of insanity. This is the liberal mind. It requires a hive and cannot imagine life outside it. This is Tom Holland, a famously rabid anti_Trumper writing in the Atlantic.

    Likewise, Trump’s spiritual poverty is making all of us into worse people. We are all living with him in the moment and neglecting the thing that makes us human beings instead of mindless fish swimming in circles. We must recover this in ourselves, and become more decent, more reflective, and more stoic—before Trump sends us into a hole from which we might never emerge

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/each-briefing-trump-making-us-worse-people/609859/

    see any personal responsibility there? Me neither. But he has a lot of company

    My God. It’s almost like you’re in my head. Every single word you wrote is how I feel. My thoughts are a bit too saturated with hating him, but being locked in the house leaves very little else to concentrate on. We have to vote him clean out or we won’t recover.

    https://twitter.com/lroby226/status/1248963161551757317

    Saturated with hating him.

    I wonder if there’s a dopamine response involved


  87. lobo91
    94 | April 11, 2020 1:10 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    My God. It’s almost like you’re in my head. Every single word you wrote is how I feel.

    Key word: Feel

    Not a syllable of that screed was based on facts. It’s all feelings


  88. eaglesoars
    95 | April 11, 2020 1:12 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    It’s all feelings

    yeah, that’s why I wonder about the dopamine


  89. coldwarrior
    96 | April 11, 2020 2:36 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Likewise, Trump’s spiritual poverty is making all of us into worse people. We are all living with him in the moment and neglecting the thing that makes us human beings instead of mindless fish swimming in circles. We must recover this in ourselves, and become more decent, more reflective, and more stoic—before Trump sends us into a hole from which we might never emerge

    what the hell does that even mean????


  90. lobo91
    97 | April 11, 2020 2:56 pm

    Another lesson from Professor Megan:


  91. eaglesoars
    98 | April 11, 2020 3:21 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    what the hell does that even mean????

    Nothing. Sounds good, tho, doesn’t it? If you are a hiver, and require a hive-mind to do your thinking and so-called spiritual nurturing, it provides the queen jelly narrative for your existence. These people could elect their messiah tomorrow, e.g., Hillary, and they would still need hate of the ‘other’ to explain-justify their misery. There is NEVER any self-responsibility. For Holland to say “we must recover this ourselves” doesn’t say what ‘this’ is, there is only a vague reference to ‘decency’, and there is still the collective ‘we’. The only surprising thing is the self-awareness that they are indeed like mindless fish swimming in circles, but it’s not because of Trump.


  92. eaglesoars
    99 | April 11, 2020 3:27 pm

    JUST IN: Judge Justin Walker grants temporary restraining order against
    @louisvillemayor Greg Fischer’s drive-in church ban on behalf of On Fire Christian Center, Inc.

    https://twitter.com/phillipmbailey/status/1249038748043673606

    About an hour ago. Walker is, I believe, a nominee to the D.C. Circuit


  93. eaglesoars
    100 | April 11, 2020 3:37 pm

    finally!

    New signs suggest coronavirus was in California far earlier than anyone knew

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-04-11/bay-area-coronavirus-deaths-signs-of-earlier-spread-california


  94. coldwarrior
    101 | April 11, 2020 4:03 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Ok…here we go


  95. eaglesoars
    102 | April 11, 2020 4:14 pm

    don’t know how useful this is, might be interesting, my sister just sent it to me

    Definitive Healthcare: USA Hospital Beds

    https://coronavirus-resources.esri.com/datasets/definitivehc::definitive-healthcare-usa-hospital-beds?geometry=110.390%2C-16.820%2C-135.352%2C72.123&showData=true


  96. eaglesoars
    103 | April 11, 2020 4:25 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    JUST IN: Judge Justin Walker grants temporary restraining order against
    @louisvillemayor Greg Fischer’s drive-in church ban on behalf of On Fire Christian Center, Inc.

    https://twitter.com/phillipmbailey/status/1249038748043673606

    About an hour ago. Walker is, I believe, a nominee to the D.C. Circuit

    Walker called Fischer’s decision “stunning,” and “beyond all reason, unconstitutional,” according to court documents. “On Holy Thursday, an American mayor criminalized the communal celebration of Easter. That sentence is one that this Court never expected to see outside the pages of a dystopian novel, or perhaps the pages of ‘The Onion’,” he added.

    https://www.wdrb.com/news/judge-grants-louisville-churchs-temporary-restraining-order-against-mayor-fischer-to-allow-drive-in-service/article_5c079e0c-7c25-11ea-907d-3b6ca408b33c.html


  97. eaglesoars
    104 | April 11, 2020 4:46 pm

    Thought I’d pass this along if anybody has little ones in their family. This is an open/free source of 6000 children’s books

    http://www.openculture.com/2016/08/enter-an-archive-of-6000-historical-childrens-books-all-digitized-and-free-to-read-online.html


  98. Deplorable Martian Overlord
    105 | April 11, 2020 5:42 pm

    So, the USPS tried to take advantage of the Covid “crisis” to get money saying they were going to be broke by June. Now, that the stimulus package is done and they didn’t get in it like they had planned, their financial emergency has apparently been delayed until November.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/10/politics/postal-service-congress-help/index.html

    This is apparently in response to this:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/11/post-office-bailout-trump/

    Can the free market make the postal service work where this half government half disaster system fails? Right now it’s obvious the current system is a disaster that absolutely cannot continue the way it is operating. Something has to be done to rework or completely replace it.


  99. eaglesoars
    106 | April 11, 2020 6:41 pm

    This – THIS – is just one of the unforeseen pitfalls of isolation

    BREAKING NEWS: I have been feeling unwell the last two days – tired, headache, foggy brain. I have been concerned about COVID infection, but it was hard to imagine how: we have been so careful.

    I just discovered 5 minutes ago that I HAVE BEEN MAKING DECAF COFFEE FOR 2 DAYS.

    https://twitter.com/TenuredRadical/status/1249036827991908354


  100. lobo91
    107 | April 11, 2020 6:49 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    That would do it…


  101. eaglesoars
    108 | April 11, 2020 8:34 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:

    That would do it…

    I figured out a way to get out of this nonsense.

    I’ve been seeing stuff about how the virus is shed in fecal matter, so basically, farts are just as dangerous as sneezes if not more so because you don’t necessarily know where a fart is coming from.

    I don’t know how medically sound it is. BUT if we could start the idea that you don’t need just masks to go out but diapers that are visible to everyone so that people know you are safe, that would kill the bullshit in its tracks.

    Have Gov. Witless sign an EO.

    People will do a lot if it makes them feel superior/noble, but they will absolutely rebel when they feel ridiculous.


  102. eaglesoars
    109 | April 11, 2020 8:45 pm

    I missed this. Feb 13

    Chinese Telecommunications Conglomerate Huawei and Subsidiaries Charged in Racketeering Conspiracy and Conspiracy to Steal Trade Secrets

    Charges also Reveal Huawei’s Business in North Korea and Assistance to the Government of Iran in Performing Domestic Surveillance

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/chinese-telecommunications-conglomerate-huawei-and-subsidiaries-charged-racketeering


  103. eaglesoars
    110 | April 11, 2020 10:04 pm

    Oh please. Next week? The DOJ has never seen anything but the ass-end of the horse headed out the barn door

    DOJ: ‘Expect action’ on government regulation of religious services amid COVID-19 outbreak

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/doj-expect-action-government-regulation-religious-covid-19


  104. Aussie Infidel
    111 | April 11, 2020 10:17 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    right_wing2 wrote:

    https://www.chicksonright.com/blog/2020/04/10/devastating-new-poll-shows-most-democrats-want-to-drop-biden-in-favor-of-andrew-cuomo/

    I still think it’ll be Biden/Michelle O.

    There is no way America elects such an extreme, New York liberal like Cuomo.

    Crimeny, we elected Obama TWICE.

    So, overnight, Gov. Witless of Michigan, banned motorized watercraft from the lakes. Canoes, kayaks, ok, but nothing with an engine. I have no idea what the point is, I’d really like to see this harridan carried out on a rail

    We’ve got restrictions on anything that could involve emergency / Rescue workers pulling your fat out of the fire. That included ALL boats from paddle boards up. No swimming. Driving restricted to going to the nearest supermarket on your own and directly home. You’re also allowed to visit the pharmacy solo. No driving outside your local roads around your bubble. Roadblocks by the Police to prevent holiday Easter travel to holiday homes. NOTHING open except supermarkets and pharmacies except in areas with no supermarkets the local stores are allowed to open for the locals. Hardware stored open only to trade. No DIY allowed. Garden centres closed so you can’t even buy seeds to plant to raise food unless you thought ahead… as most did! The only vehicles on the roads are delivery trucks and cars with single drivers only going to the local shops.

    The PLAN is to ERADICATE the virus and then keep borders CLOSED for up to 12-18 months or until a cure is found, except for people incoming who have to be checked for Covid 19 prior to boarding their aircraft overseas and then fully enforced quarantined for 14 days and checked before release. Other than those restrictions it looks as if the country will be virus free by mid May when everyone goes back to work and the schools go back as normal.

    The breadth of the lockdown in NZ has been almost total and the tracing of cases has been relentless and getting better every day.

    So NZ becomes a jail with an open door for outward bound and with restrictions (14 days and checks) on ALL inbound


  105. Aussie Infidel
    112 | April 11, 2020 10:21 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Likewise, Trump’s spiritual poverty is making all of us into worse people. We are all living with him in the moment and neglecting the thing that makes us human beings instead of mindless fish swimming in circles. We must recover this in ourselves, and become more decent, more reflective, and more stoic—before Trump sends us into a hole from which we might never emerge

    what the hell does that even mean????

    Sounds like some had just had a baaaad trip!

    🙂


  106. eaglesoars
    113 | April 11, 2020 10:26 pm

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    The PLAN is to ERADICATE the virus and then keep borders CLOSED for up to 12-18 months or until a cure is found,

    That’s not the plan. Head for the mattresses.


  107. Aussie Infidel
    114 | April 11, 2020 10:32 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Churches open here but they can’t have services unless they comply with masks and social distancing rules which makes church almost impossible. Some Parishes in Auckland , mostly anglican and catholic have daily services on video live. Catholics continue to have the sacrament of Reconciliation / Confession as long as masks and social distancing / screening is in place. Alas the Eucharist is not available as it involves individuals in close proximity so that is a bit of a bummer.

    Trying to get innovative with car park services and communion where the priest comes to the car to give communion. There appears to be no reason why authorities will inject themselves into that scheme as long as folks don’t travel outside their local suburb. The government will have to cut some slack to allow multiple people in each car as long as they are all members of their own bubble.


  108. Aussie Infidel
    115 | April 11, 2020 10:33 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    The PLAN is to ERADICATE the virus and then keep borders CLOSED for up to 12-18 months or until a cure is found,

    That’s not the plan. Head for the mattresses.

    HEH!

    No horse heads or cannolli were injured in posting this massage!


  109. eaglesoars
    116 | April 11, 2020 10:55 pm

    Well, well, well. This is by an American/Italian, born in central Pennsylvania (that would be around State College), now living in Italy, who researched just what the hell happened to his legacy homeland.

    When the dust settled, China owned more than 300 companies…representing 27% of the major Italian corporations. The Bank of China now owns five major banks in Italy…all of which had been secretly (and illegally) propped up by Renzi using pilfered pension funds! Soon after, the China Milano Equity Exchange was opened and much of Italy’s wealth was being funnelled back to the Chinese mainland. Chinese state entities own Italy’s major telecommunication corporation (Telecom) as well as its major utilities (ENI and ENEL).
    .
    .
    The Far-Left politicians sold out and betrayed the Italian people with open border policies and social justice programs. One of the reasons the health care system collapsed so quickly is because the Renzi government (and now continued under the Conte government) redirected funds meant to sustain the medical system, to pay for the tens of thousands of immigrants brought in to Italy against the will of the Italian people.If you remember the horrible earthquake that decimated the villages around Amatriciana, in the mountains east of Rome in 2015, you would also remember how the world responded by sending millions of dollars to help those affected.

    But there is a law in Italy that prevents private donations to charitable Italian organizations. All money and donations received must be turned over to a government agency, who in turn is to appropriate the funds as needed. But that agency is corrupt just as are all the others.

    Most of the money never reached a single victim in the mountains. The Renzi government redirected the vast majority of those funds to pay for the growing immigrant and refugee costs. As the economy worsened under the burden of illegal immigration, compounded by gross government spending and incompetence, unemployment rose quickly…especially among young people.

    much much more at the link

    https://www.gatewaytosouthamerica-newsblog.com/italy-and-the-wuhan-virus-the-real-story-from-an-italian-writer/


  110. Aussie Infidel
    117 | April 11, 2020 10:56 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    The country has a dozen ‘hot spots’ where Covid19 was brought in from the outside. It’s got into two old folks homes and is ravaging the t=residents and staff. Still only 4 deaths so far and a total of 1300 infected all traced back to tourists or returning Kiwis plus about 30% community infections and almost all of those originated from inbound airline passengers and their families and friends.

    Currently 4 dead, 45 hospitalised with 15 of those in ICU of which 4 are serious. Totals are 900 currently infected and 400 recovered. Currently the new infections rate is below the recovery rate. Zero new infections modelled by around mid May, when everyone goes back to ‘new’ normal!

    The go early go hard seems to be working however the government was under political pressure for resisting calls to close the borders earlier, which would have made an enormous difference to the numbers of infested. There are 114,000 hotel rooms empty now so there is plenty of space for returning quarantined visitors and returm=ning Kiwis to wait out their isolation time.


  111. AZfederalist
    118 | April 11, 2020 11:00 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    what the hell does that even mean????

    Word salad


  112. eaglesoars
    119 | April 11, 2020 11:27 pm

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    I read there are 2 distinct genetic strains in Australia. Everything started in China, so that tells me there are 2 points in time for the input load.

    AZfederalist wrote:

    Word salad

    If you read thru the entire piece, he has really attributed the role of God to Trump and blamed him for their spiritual vacuum. It’s an amazing self-own.


  113. Deplorable Bumr50
    120 | April 12, 2020 6:37 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    If you read thru the entire piece, he has really attributed the role of God to Trump and blamed him for their spiritual vacuum. It’s an amazing self-own.

    That’s because an alarming number of people severely misconstrue the power and role of the POTUS, IMHO.

    The 20th century didn’t help in this regard, along with terrible education.

    Also, many people didn’t thoughtfully turn away from religion. They simply decided that science made it unnecessary and dangerous even. “How” vs. “Why.” “How” won, and “Why” was ignored. There are many consequences to this. Also, IMHO.

    Happy Easter!


  114. rain of lead
    121 | April 12, 2020 6:56 am

    He is risen

    morning y’all

    Amazing Grace –

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO5y2O_hv3I


  115. 122 | April 12, 2020 7:22 am

    @ rain of lead:
    He is risen indeed!


  116. AZfederalist
    123 | April 12, 2020 12:16 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    He is risen indeed! Will be attending our streaming services in about an hour.


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