Lots of stuff happened, but apparently none more important than Trump putting his signature on paper stimulus checks. Carry on…
Month 2, Day 32 of the Great American Lockdown : The Day Formerly Known as Tax Day
by Bumr50 ( 231 Comments › )Filed under Open thread at April 15th, 2020 - 7:19 am
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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
The grabberment taketh away, and the grabberment giveth, pisseth be the grabberment. Ok, so, yea, I got my coronavirus check last night. I paid 3800 in taxes, got 850 back, now another 1200. The grabberment is still up almost 2 grand on me.
@ doriangrey:
morning DG
hey y’all
yup, got’s me some trump money too
@ doriangrey:
@ rain of lead:
excellent. Altho I didn’t realize taxes were going to be taken out. jeez.
Money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpbbuaIA3Ds
@ eaglesoars:
i got 2400, me and momcat
i bet the girl gets her own trump money 🙂
later, gotta go on the great TP hunt
got so cold last night I gotta go scrape frost off my windshield
rain of lead wrote:
Next up – reparations checks from Xi whats-his-name
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/04/15/holy-sit-chris-cuomo-admitted-last-night-that-hes-still-symptomatic-why-was-he-out-on-easter/
@ Twitchy
Fredo is pissing and moaning about his quarantine. But wait, he jumped in the car and went to the Hamptons for Easter! The guy is still symptomatic.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/biden-gets-confused-teleprompter-will-make-educator-video/
@ Gateway Pundit
Take a listen to Biden in this video. This is elder abuse on the part of the Party , his campaign and his family.
The guy has no idea what’s going on or actually where he is.
@ RIX:
What do you think the odds are that the Democrats replace Slow Joe with Governor Cuomo?
right_wing2 wrote:
I would say about 30 %. The other possibility is Hillary becomes his running mate and then old Joe is a victim of Arkanicide.
Yay! The wife has to go drop stuff off at the office.
FIELD TRIP!!
@ RIX:
6 months? Wonder what odds Vegas would give. And how much trouble you’d get in for asking.
https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2020/04/15/chris-cuomos-fat-tire-biker-fires-back/
@ rain of lead:
If people don’t understand that the Left literally hates anyone that’s not in lockstep with them by now, I don’t know what to say.
thx bumr…i borked the post that was going to gu up this AM…i posted it or april first…
@ coldwarrior:
No Prob. I only throw one up if I don’t see any drafts.
oh dear god. Nancy Pelosi did a gig on some TV show, she was filmed at home explaining how she gets thru the shut down.
It’s ICE CREAM!!
The woman is standing in front of TWO Sub-Zero fridge/freezers that cost more than MY BENZ SUV and she has no fucking clue does she?
https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi/status/1250080704446238725
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
One of my favorite philosopher’s words of wisdom.
“They want you dead. Act accordingly.”
Kurt Schlichter
right_wing2 wrote:
Yeah but I bet Vegas would still make book on it.
There are three Facebook groupsteying to organize a reopen PA protest in Harrisburg on 4/20, and as far as I can tell Facebook has removed them.
@ eaglesoars:
My favorite philosopher is Aristotle who coined the truth “shit happens.”
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
4:20.
😎
@ coldwarrior:
Enjoy it, man!
(Stupid hair tests everywhere now…)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/streets-packed-lansing-hundreds-way-protest-tyrannical-governor-state-police-shut-exits-city-photos-video/
@ Gateway Pundit
Comrades the reactionary running dogs of yankee Constitutionalism are threatening Glorious Revolution.
We are being joined in our struggle by the AOC Young Pioneers, the Swalwell Brigade, and the Schiff smirking drum and bugle corps. The reactionaries will cower before the people’s heros of the revolution.
RIX wrote:
nah, that was my father. The rest of it goes “Get over yourself”
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
Heh…I’m legal.
https://theothermccain.com/2020/04/15/its-her-cruz-ally-victoria-coates-identified-as-anonymous-author/
@ RIX:
To the barricades, comrades!
The Gov. North Caroline is getting flack from the state judiciary committee.
Did you order this? Because if you did, there will be some judicial intervention.
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/365930/
Pennsylvania orders businesses to turn away customers who don’t wear masks
Customers and employees will soon be required to wear masks inside businesses still operating, and those who don’t wear masks will be denied entry, Secretary of Health Dr. Rachel Levine said Wednesday.
The order, which includes dozens of other requirements, will go into effect 8 p.m. Sunday
https://triblive.com/news/pennsylvania/pennsylvania-orders-businesses-to-turn-away-customers-who-dont-wear-masks/
https://cnsnews.com/article/national/craig-bannister/judge-forces-mchenry-county-illinois-health-dept-provide-names-all
MASSIVE HIPPA VIOLATION.
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
Then my CC should open up. Right? We’ll wear masks in the pro shop. Honest
@ coldwarrior:
I’m gonna start making and selling “F*ck Tom Wolf” masks.
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
The order doesn’t mean anything, unless someone enforces it.
And now for some complete different 🙂
This is and it is true, no joke: a hazel dormouse bridge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwfrrAoxaJw
Problem is: hazel dormice live only on one side of the bridge and NO the craziness doesn’t end here: they plan another bridge along this street for hazel dormice. AND there is now a an authorized person who collects hazel dormice excrements to figure out if the hazel dormice use properly the bridge.
The village is in Bavaria named Vilshofen
@ Guggi:
*something*
@ Guggi:
What prompted this? Was there a sudden increase of dormouse bodies on the road?
In Florida, they’ve made crossings for wild cats – I’m not sure what kind of cat exactly – because the road building disrupted their habitat. So now they can go under the road.
I’m not laughing. It’s a good thing that people care about animals. Even if we do eat them. Some of them. Not bats, though.
😆
Whoa! Trump can FORCEFULLY adjourn Congress? That’s what he seems to be threatening.
This is like the monarch dissolving Parliament
eaglesoars wrote:
No, no, no. As I wrote. the hazel dormice live only on one side of the bridge because they have destroyed their living space on the other side before they built the bridge. But the hazel dormice are a protected species. This is pure nonsense.
Trump’s hair is white
eaglesoars wrote:
…. Pelosi’s gig still rates below Warren’s attempt to look like one of the little people drinking a beer. I still grind my teeth just thinking about that BS acting.My only wish was if the suds spurted out of Waren’s nose mid shot!
🙂
Guggi wrote:
Oh! I get it. Well, they should just make little parachutes for them and drop them from drones.
[insert eye roll]
RIX wrote:
One rule for our ‘elite’ overlords and one rule for the Hoi Poloi
🙂
SPIT
If he was here in NZ he’d be up for a $1.8k on the spot fine for breaking quarantine.
eaglesoars wrote:
That’s dangerous for the left. Now all of the MSM talking heads will have to call Trump ‘white man’!
🙂
because the sheriffs have to face elections.
https://twitter.com/nick_ponton/status/1250493188864909312
the local barney fife’s? nah, orders are orders mein fuhrer.
eaglesoars wrote:
You mean like the seldom used ‘Reserve Power of the Crown that can dissolve parliament if the good of the people is in peril and force new elections within 6 weeks?
Doesn’t happen much . Only twice I think in the 20th Century. Oz’s Governor General did it during the Whitlam Labour Government in the 1970s I think for colluding with certain Abab interests and a LARGE sum of money. It was a race between The G.G Kerr and PM Whitlam. BOTH had the power to sack the other. Kerr struck first and the Labour government was no more. The Liberal Coalition won a landslide victory 6 weeks later but alas after the fact we discovered that the Liberal Party leader Malcolm Fraser was a silver spoon socialist arsehole.
Still Whitlem was destroyed so it was a partial win.
🙂
@ Aussie Infidel:
i making shrimp…on the barbie. me and mrs coldwarrior are having some of aussies finest wine to go with it. cold weather be damned! the patio heater is going full bore!
g’day mate! 😆
What? Force the Congress into recess? Yes. The president has the power under the Constitution to do exactly that. Read Article II, which is, of course, on the executive branch, Section 3, titled “State of the Union, Convening Congress.” It states in full about the president that:
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“[H]e may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper.” Of course, there are caveats. First, it must be an extraordinary occasion. Second, the two houses of Congress must disagree about the time of adjournment. Both can be finessed. On the first point, Obama can actually reasonably argue that the number of presidential appointments held up by Republicans (we’ll get to the numbers in a minute) is so large as to constitute an extraordinary circumstance.
Did you catch that? This argument was made for Obama to adjourn Congress because Congress was slow confirming his appointments – the exact same reason Trump is citin.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/barack-obama-needs-to-force-congress-into-recess-make-appointments
Pirates Board Crude Tanker Near World’s Most Critical Oil Passage
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Pirates-Board-Crude-Tanker-Near-Worlds-Most-Critical-Oil-Passage.html
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
Honk Kong flagged boat with Chinese crew. Possible IIRG.
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
Given current oil prices, this is the equivalent of holding up the dollar store…
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
Pirates my ass. Somebody is paying them.
eaglesoars wrote:
*rofl* and @good night all
coldwarrior wrote:
Wonder if the Illinois judge can be charged and civil remedies applied
Aussie Infidel wrote:
… or her spitting it out saying, “This is terrible! Who drinks this crap?!”
@ AZfederalist:
That was the first three takes.
@ AZfederalist:
eaglesoars wrote:
The bats got a bad rap from all of those vampire movies. They are just misunderstood flying squirrels…. that carry plague Corona and rabies!.
Other than that however they are just neat furry little critters!
🙂
Horseshoe bate however stay clear of the Wuhan bio-research labs when some uncle and aunt bats disappeared inside, never to be seen again!
HEH!
Brand new video. I love this song!
So far, the biggest issue I’ve had with the whole zombie apocalypse thing is Larkin Poe’s spring tour being postponed.
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
Of course they are. It’s the …..” if we can’t use the straits then nobody is going to use it.”
The Straits of Malacca use a system where armed counter pirate guards board vessels at the top of the strait and guard the ship as it travels south. Each guard picks up US$10k. Then they have a few days off in Singapore and pick up a north bound freighter…. getting another US$10k for their trouble.
Nice work if you can get it. I know quite a few guys doing this. They belong to B Squadron NZ SAS and do two years contracting before returning to the Regiment for 2 years.
coldwarrior wrote:
G’day right back at ya Cold. Glad you’re feeling a bit more like your old reprehensible self mate!
🙂
Throw another shrimp on the barbie!
right_wing2 wrote:
😆
coldwarrior wrote:
Power to the correct people!
Aussie Infidel wrote:
Chicago has this little Pygmy mayor. She banned haircuts and the she got one for herself.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/04/15/new-jersey-governor-tells-tucker-carlson-he-wasnt-thinking-of-the-bill-of-rights-when-he-banned-religious-services/
@ Twitchy
NJ Governor Murphy was on with Tucke yesterday. He was asked about his ban on religious services VI’s a VI’s the Bill of Rights. He responded “that is above my pay grade.”
Isn’t that part of his job description? The best people go into the private sector and the pols are basically the dregs.
Trump of course comes from the private sector and that’s why he knows how to get things done.
@ RIX:
It’s in his Oath of Office. I couldn’t believe Tucker didn’t pull that one out. Stuff about ‘upholding the Constitution’ and all that. sheesh.
Our governor just extended some lockdown parameters an extra 2 weeks. Because shut up.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/493060-pennsylvania-state-senate-votes-to-override-governors-stay-at-home-order?amp
Make the socialist veto it.
China’s Export Restrictions Strand Medical Goods U.S. Needs to Fight Coronavirus, State Department Says
Products made by 3M, Owens & Minor, PerkinElmer sit in warehouses; GE ventilator production line in Wisconsin nearly brought to a halt
https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinas-export-restrictions-strand-medical-goods-u-s-needs-to-fight-coronavirus-state-department-says-11587031203?mod=hp_lead_pos4
When this is over, we nationalize every China-owned company in the country
eaglesoars wrote:
Our little mayor in Chicago made the lakefront off limits. You can’t take a run or bike ride on the path.
Her reasoning is that some people congregated so now you are all punished.
So if one motorist speeds should we all surrender our licenses?
RIX wrote:
and your cars
@ coldwarrior:
And veto it he will.
He sent out the outright Marxist Fetterman to tell the media.
eaglesoars wrote:
I actually can imagine that. People are now fighting back, but so far not in Chicago.
This woman does not own the lake front but is acting like it.
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
That fraud is a full blown communist.
I saw right through him years ago.
If you were rescued from a desert island, came home, and spent one day listening to the media right now, you would be excused if you thought that some guy named Anthony Fauci was Emperor of the Planet.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2020/4/15/21222833/donald-trump-coronavirus-toxic-s-e-cupp-pandemic-presidential-election
@ Chicago Sun Times
Is this S E Cupp woman a twit? Why yes she is.
Just one example, she ignores that the photos of caged children were under Obama. She just bashes Trump.
I feel dumber for reading this article.
Time to start hanging these bastards
HEALTH AND SCIENCE
Drinking alcohol can make the coronavirus worse, the WHO says in recommending restricting access
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/15/drinking-alcohol-can-make-the-coronavirus-worse-the-who-says-in-recommending-restricting-access.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain
@ eaglesoars:
Dems fighting words. I don’t trust anything coming out of the WHO.
@ eaglesoars:
Saw that multiple places.
If that recommendation doesn’t magically “disappear”, they are dumber than I thought.
eaglesoars wrote:
molon labe
This is disheartening. Fox is being given credit for reporting that there is more confidence now that the virus originated in the Wuhan lab. BREAKING!
But the Epoch Times uncovered all of that in their documentary weeks ago and they’re being completely ignored.
@ eaglesoars:
oh yeah, almost forgot. When zerohedge reported the exact same story – before the Epoch Times even – Twitter permanently suspended them.
@ eaglesoars:
I believe not for one second, that the coronavirus originated in a lab
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-19-not-human-made-lab-genetic-analysis-nature
@ Guggi:
Oh, I agree! It escaped from the Wuhan Virology Lab, it was not CREATED there.
Guggi wrote:
No , but a lot of evidence points to that the were running tests on the virus and harvested it from horseshoe bats.
Sadly either wittingly or unwittingly the US was helping to fund the research.
The theory then claims that it got on a lab workers clothes and that is how it got out.
How are you Guggi?
eaglesoars wrote:
We have a winner!
I subscribe to something called Atlas Obscura and get a lot of very cool history stuff in my inbox every day. One of today’s articles is about the people who colorize black and white photos from the past with some excellent examples, at least one is probably quite familiar.
Enjoy
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/colorized-historical-photos?utm_source=Atlas+Obscura+Daily+Newsletter&utm_campaign=660941d732-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_04_16&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f36db9c480-660941d732-70779657&mc_cid=660941d732&mc_eid=58bb0046dc
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/04/16/arguably-the-most-racist-ad-ive-ever-seen-chinese-ad-for-laundry-detergent-jaw-droppingly-racist-watch/
@ Twitchy
This may be the single most racist ad that you have ever seen, brought to you by the MSM favorite, the Proples Republic of China.
@ Guggi:
Guggi, here is the Epoch Times documentary I referred to
https://www.theepochtimes.com/coronavirusfilm?utm_source=Epoch_Times&utm_medium=Banner
The Epoch Times is a fairly new media outlet. They also produce a newspaper we subscribe to and you can get on their email list. On twitter they are @EpochTimes. The legacy media made an attempt to take them down last year when they started a rumor mill that they are a Falun Gong front organization. There are a lot of Chinese staffers, some may be Falun Gong – the editors refused to satisfy with answers saying it is nobody’s business – and they definitely never miss a chance to go after China but there’s a lot of other good reporting, too.
I should say we get their newspaper because my husband won’t read it online. It’s here.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/
RIX wrote:
The Epoch Times documentary says that a scientist at NIH got really concerned about it, even writing a piece in Nature that it was extremely dangerous research. Somehow, that got heard and the Obama admin cut Shi Zhing-Li’s funding back in 2015 (I think it was 2015). There was nothing secret about her or what she was doing. The documentary has video of her making speeches about it academic conferences. The film is about 55 minutes, well worth your time.
And oh, btw, there were never any bats at that wet market.
RIX wrote:
AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Well, that’s right up there with African blacks being told they’re not allowed to come into the stores (McDonalds, I think?) – with signs PRINTED IN ENGLISH
Today’s NYT
HONG KONG — After 16 years in China, a Congolese businessman thought he knew what being black there entailed. He had been subjected to racial slurs and denied apartments, but he had also learned Chinese and made local friends. He loved the country; he called it his second home.
But the businessman, Felly Mwamba, had not anticipated the coronavirus pandemic, during which he would find himself sealed in his home, prohibited from leaving and eyed as a carrier of the disease, simply because he was African.
“The way they are treating black people, you cannot accept,” Mr. Mwamba said by telephone. “We are not animals.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/16/world/asia/coronavirus-china-nationalism.html
Rush:
Some health dept in Montana issued an order that store owners could admit only people wearing a pink arm band issued by the gov’t (indicating they’d been in the area for at least 14 days)
Got told to fuck right off
@ eaglesoars:
The Chinese dont care about raaaaaccisssss.
$1200 just appeared in my bank account.
Thank you President Trump.
Thank you American tax payers.
🙂
eaglesoars wrote:
This is a tough for the MSM, two protected classes.
Some how they have to make this all Trumps fault. I know “orange man created this toxic environment because he is mean to Jim Acosta and Jon Karl or something.
coldwarrior wrote:
Actually, I think the idea is rather new, historically speaking. From the history I’ve read it was quite common to believe in the relative superiority of races, it seemed too obvious to be discussed. And let’s not talk about slavery. One of the most famous slaves in the world invented what we would call shorthand. He belonged to Cicero and his name was Tiro. We still use his ampersand. Slavery was not a state to be desired, but it wasn’t a racial issue.
@ Possum:
congrats! Don’t spend it all in one place.
eaglesoars wrote:
It is going to go to a very good cause.
Investing it in a future health care professional.
100!
Anybody watch ‘Counterpart’ on Starz or Amazon?
I’m halfway throughseason 1, pretty good so far. Interesting concept.
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
Currently enjoying Water Rats. An Australian TV show from 1996. Women with Australian accents are hot!
@ Possum:
excellent!
I just cut my own hair. It is now what you might call ‘layered’. You might call it a lot of other things too, but ‘layered’ works.
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
What’s it about?
@ Possum:
Sounds fun!
So the “mandatory” mask thing doesn’t go into effect til Sunday night at midnight.
I guess we’ll just have take our life into our own hands if we go shopping before then, since it’s so critical and effective???
@ eaglesoars:
I needed a haircut a month before we got locked down.
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
I discussed this with someone about six weeks ago. We both decided best thing to do was get the Chinese Flu while there were ICU beds available.
Now it looks like it may be similar to the common cold. Getting it and recovering does not mean you wont get it again.
Here are the re-opening guidelines / guidance points that have been developed. I guess this is from the WH task force
https://www.scribd.com/document/456751209/Reopening-Guidelines#from_embed
@ eaglesoars:
A split timeline for the world starting in 1987 Berlin, where a passage was opened between worlds.
It stars JK Simmons as a low level operative with no clearance (unaware that this even happened, as is most of the world at large) in an intelligence agency on one side, while his counterpart is a much higher level agent in the other timeline.
The series doesn’t (or hasn’t really gotten into the how or why of the event, but focuses on the spycraft between worlds and the drama involved among these few in the intelligence community that have knowledge of the event, and the effects decisions made on the lives of the same people in different timelines.
Good drama.
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
The series is set in the present.
@ eaglesoars:
from the comments
This plan sets all the responsibility on the individual, and none on the government. I want a plan that shows me how the government will assist in making safe environments
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
oh yeah! I’d put that on my list and forgot about it. I saw a good cold war movie on Netflix a few weeks ago with Bill Pullman, filmed in Poland by Polish director, etc. The Coldest War. Cuban Missile Crisis. An American chess master (and former physicist) who has fallen into alcoholism is kidnapped by the CIA so he can make contact with their mole in the Kremlin during a world champion chess match. It was a surprisingly good film.
Throw away the key
Former employee of medical packaging company charged with sabotaging electronic shipping records leading to the delay of PPE to healthcare providers
On March 29, 2020, Christopher Dobbins allegedly conducted a computer intrusion that disrupted and delayed the medical device packaging company’s shipments of personal protective equipment (“PPE”).
While employed at the company, Dobbins had administrator access to the computer systems containing the company’s shipping information. In early March 2020, Dobbins was terminated from his employment at the company, losing his access to the company’s computer systems. On March 26, Dobbins received his final paycheck from the company. Three days later, Dobbins used a fake user account that he had previously created while employed at the company to log into the company’s computer systems.
Once logged in through the fake user account, Dobbins allegedly created a second fake user account and then used that second account to edit approximately 115,581 records and delete approximately 2,371 records. After taking these actions, the complaint alleges, Dobbins deactivated both fake user accounts and logged out of the system. The edits and deletions to the company’s records disrupted the company’s shipping processes, causing delays in the delivery of much-needed PPEs to healthcare providers.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndga/pr/former-employee-medical-packaging-company-allegedly-sabotages-electronic-shipping
https://bitterwinter.org/coronavirus-china-kept-it-secret-for-six-fatal-days/
Chinese duplicity
eaglesoars wrote:
Bobby Fischer??? ring a bell!
eaglesoars wrote:
Sounds like a re-run of a 1937 movie of NAZI Germany and their crack down on gays.
Has the US fallen so far? Not all of course but some State law makers are getting Hitler pretensions.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
Did you miss the “Got told to fuck right off” part?
Just a thought….global warming didnt work to take control of civilization.
Is ‘pandemic’ the next attempt?
coldwarrior wrote:
good god, man! what was your first clue? Anytime you hear ‘computer model’, it’s time for the belt-fed toys.
@ eaglesoars:
How long until South Park goes after this topic like they did with algore.
Manbearpig
coldwarrior wrote:
The Pope already DID ManBearPig when he used his Easter homily to blame the virus on our lack of respect for Gaia.
eaglesoars wrote:
Yep. China has shown themselves a bit too soon.
RIX wrote:
So that’s what they were conditioning us for in grade school. Made me angry then, makes me angry now. Except now I have means to push back
*snort*
Trump snubs Romney by inviting every other GOP senator to council on restarting economy amid coronavirus
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-outreach-restarting-economy-includes-every-gop-senator-except-romney
RIX wrote:
S E Cupp used to be a conservative. Or at least that’s what we were led to believe. Somehow she got infected with TDS and it’s not a good prognosis.
eaglesoars wrote:
I’ve said this before, Twitter is a sewer. The people who run it and the commenters that they allow to run roughshod over those who don’t toe the progressive party line.
@ eaglesoars:
Very cool.
AZfederalist wrote:
China has never stopped showing themselves. Now they’re threatening countries who are having doubts about going with their 5G networks.
Good sources on China’s mentality: Michael Pillsbury
China’s ‘seventh domain’ bio warfare focus boosts coronavirus suspicions, says expert
Trump China guru Michael Pillsbury thinks U.S. should be paying attention to the military agendas of recently promoted Chinese generals.
https://justthenews.com/world/asia/chinas-focus-seventh-domain-bio-warfare-efforts-boosts-coronavirus-suspicions-says#.XpjavhERUUI.twitter
Gordon G. Chang who is active on twitter @GordonGChang
And General Robert Spalding who has specialized in China and written a very good book Stealth War: How China Took Over While America’s Elite Slept.
Altho I think instead of sleeping a lot of them were complicit
If you want to learn HOW China infiltrates and what a society looks like when they occupy the body of the host, there is no one better than Anne Marie Brady who has covered Australia/New Zealand, and speaks the language. She’s also the only one I know of who covers their activity in the polar regions.
Anyhoo, those people are my usual sources.
eaglesoars wrote:
I guess I’m going to have to have Mrs Federalist do a trim on mine. It’s getting to where I can’t stand it
eaglesoars wrote:
To whomever wrote that, please move to China or Europe. We don’t need that attitude in this country. You have either been mis-educated or are a treacherous lesion on this land.
@ AZfederalist:
one advantage to not having hair.
set of clippers and a #2 guide
done.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
Unfortunately, some in this country have. We have the tyrannical governors and state officials like that tyrant in Michigan and we have compliant sheep who willingly do everything they are told and inform on those who don’t
coldwarrior wrote:
Well now, there’s something to ponder. My opinion is that this is going to only work once, just like global warming was sort of successful at first and with Europe. After seeing that this was not the “we’re all gonna die! scenario that it was painted out to be, the next time somebody tries this, they are likely to be tarred and feathered.
AChicago hospital treating severe Covid-19 patients with Gilead Sciences’ antiviral medicine remdesivir in a closely watched clinical trial is seeing rapid recoveries in fever and respiratory symptoms, with nearly all patients discharged in less than a week, STAT has learned.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/16/early-peek-at-data-on-gilead-coronavirus-drug-suggests-patients-are-responding-to-treatment/
eaglesoars wrote:
No love lost between those two. That must have been a heck of a dinner 3 years ago
AZfederalist wrote:
In further ‘conversation’ (you really didn’t think I’d let that one go did you?) the writer said that what was left out was the gov’t responsibility for testing and contact tracing. I responded that it’s the reponsibility of the individual states how that is done and we left it at that
rain of lead wrote:
Well. let’s just say I’m not fully populated, but the parts that are populated are getting a bit long.
eaglesoars wrote:
Nope, didn’t think you would.
Time to get the rope
Local health department suggests grocery store trips based on shoppers’ last name
Calvert County, MD
linky
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/493156-maryland-county-recommends-grocery-store-trips-based-on-shoppers-last
eaglesoars wrote:
Maryland may be lost.
well, the people of that state are getting what they voted for
good and hard
Flu stats
A total of 19,713 influenza-related hospitalizations were reported between October 1, 2019 and March 28, 2020. 72% were associated with Influenza A and 27% were Influenza B, which is a reversal of early season numbers when Influenza B was more dominant.
The overall cumulative hospitalization rate was 67.9 per 100,000 population over the same time period. This number is higher than all recent seasons during the same time period, except for the 2017-18 season. Hospitalization rates in children 0-4 years old and adults 18-49 years old are the highest on record according to the CDC, surpassing the rate reported during the 2009 H1N1 pandemic.
https://www.rochesterregional.org/news/2020/01/flu-season-2020
@ eaglesoars:
Was that national or for New York. They seem to have jumped around between stats
@ AZfederalist:
I believe it’s national
@ eaglesoars:
Thanks.
If the quarantine and self isolation thing is affecting your mental health then get a couple of kittens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcIq6nslxoM
heh. John Kennedy is on Hannity calling it the ‘Fauci-Birx Plan’
yeah, pretty much. If you don’t like it, at least you have to share the blame.
When Parents Start To Crack
Kid: Mom, was I adopted?
Mom: Not yet, honey, we only put the ad up yesterday
2020 is a unique leap year
It has 29 days in February
300 days in March
And 5 years in April
RIX wrote:
Ya see THAT is what REALLY pisses the folks off.
These jumped up little mandarins need putting back in their boxes!
🙂
@ eaglesoars:
@ eaglesoars:
Both of those made me crack up
eaglesoars wrote:
Interviewer: …….. Hey kid how are you enjoying Home Schooling?
Kid: ……. Awww it’s neat I love it.
Interviewer: …. Tell me what you hate most about it
Kid: …… the teacher drinks!
🙂
If you’re interested, Fauci is going to be on Laura Ingraham’s show, which just started
yikes
Found the kid playing with her dog instead of Zooming with her teacher. She told me not to worry. She took a screenshot of herself “paying attention,” then cut her video & replaced it with the picture. “It’s a gallery view of 20 kids, mom. They can’t tell.” She is 10. #COVID19
https://twitter.com/AngieMaxwell1/status/1250299598347718656
CUT HER VIDEO??
AZfederalist wrote:
GOOD!
SARS disappeared. I didn’t know that. Fauci says we developed a vaccine we thought worked, etc. and it just – disappeared. But he says the transmissability of this thing COVID-19 – is like nothing he’s ever seen.
eaglesoars wrote:
Didn’t they say the same thing about H1N1?
eaglesoars wrote:
ZOOMING!
Indeed. You realise of course that the ZOOM App does NOT have end to end encryption and if you have your front end encrypted you have to give your key to your Chinese overlords first!
Zoom is REALLY BAD NEWS security wise and the PLA in Building 101 in Shanghai are laughing at all the dumb Guangi!
WE even had Australian Cabinet Ministers holding Zoom conferences….. until GCSB slapped them for breaking security procols.
@ AZfederalist:
That was stated as equivalent to the flu, that’s why nobody got upset and nobody remembers it.
Fauci is saying this is a whole different ‘thing’.
To be clear, I am not a Fauci skeptic. He deals with the data he has and nobody knows anything until the after-the-fact numbers are in.
The problem I have with his analysis is this: anecdotally, there is an unknown number of asymptomatic/test-positive people who are or are not infectious. There is never any denominator. Until we have that, there is no basis for calculating the R0 (R-naught) value, the measure of just how infectious this thing is.
Especially if you take into account the more than numerous stories of people on the west coast – and coldwarrior, et al. – who had something ‘funny’ last year.
No denominator, no numbers worth the powder to blow them to hell
Aussie Infidel wrote:
Yep, funnels through servers in China. We have very strict guidance on what can be done on Zoom — basically if it is publicly released, it’s OK, anything else needs to find other ways to communicate.
eaglesoars wrote:
We are on the same page there. My other problem with him though is that he has the tendency to make very hyperbolic statements that are later proven to be greatly exaggerated. He is alway predicting the worst: 2 million casualties, then 200,000, and so on.
eaglesoars wrote:
Yeah, I think someone was BSing Rush on that one. Heard nothing about that here. Governor Shithead floated the idea at his presser but it was never put into action.
AZfederalist wrote:
I view him a bit differently. He is a ‘scientist’ and I put the word in quotes because in his world, the evidence or lack thereof is the driver. Practical experience has null value. What the layman hears as ‘hyperbolic’ is Fauci looking at the data he DOESN’T have. 5 days ago, everybody was saying he insisted on a total testing of the entire population. No he wasn’t. In his mind, he was addressing a technical issue.
I was married to one of these. His personal failings notwithstanding, if I asked him what the weather was like his answer was ‘Where?’. He was trying to be helpful.
It’s unreasonable to expect him to be successful in a world he’s never practiced in – Trump media. He is evidence driven and humanity’s frustration with his ‘prophecy’ shouldn’t be laid at his feet. It will be anyway, but it’s not his fault.
I’ve seen all the crap about his hagiography of Hillary. My take is ‘so what?’. Having spent decades with his ilk, I’m all too familiar with their utter incompetence when it comes to real life. He is dedicated to being the best he can be in figuring this out and fixing it and that’s all anyone can reasonably ask of him.
Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:
hunh. I will have to go back to the transcript and see if I got it wrong.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
Also over 100,000 Zoom login credentials just turned up on the darkweb this week. So, there’s that too.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8218723/More-500-000-Zoom-user-credentials-sold-dark-web-PENNY-each.html
Sorry, more than 500,000.
Am I allowed to laugh?
ok, bedtime. nite
eaglesoars wrote:
that was in response to
Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:
eaglesoars wrote:
That’s where I disagree. If he was truly evidence driven, he wouldn’t be making predictions based on evidence he doesn’t have. He would be providing extrapolated numbers with an uncertainty envelope and he’s not doing that.
eaglesoars wrote:
Oh, yes you are allowed to laugh. Especially since our “betters” in the educational system have just basically forced parents across the country to sign up for this leaky chinese system. I was supposed to for my godson. Took one look at it, researched for five minutes and went “nope”. Lol.
I had a doctor’s appointment yesterday and things have changed in the last few weeks. This time I had to fill out a Rona form, typical questions, but then they asked “Have you been outside of Orange County within the past 14 days?” followed by “If so, when and where?” I guess L.A. is on the travel ban list.
The receptionist wasn’t wearing a mask. Neither was I, but I got the stinkeye from a guy in the waiting area.
eaglesoars wrote:
Outside, duh.
So this is a pic of what Los Angeles looks like when it’s shut down
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/366350/
uh huh.
eaglesoars wrote:
The pols are guilty of over reach and enjoying being tin horn dictators.
People are tinted of being bossed around, zombie apocalypse scare tactics, poor data, today contradicting yesterday and incompetence.
The governor of New Jersey say’s that the Bill of Rights is “Above my pay grade”.no dude, it’s part of your job description.
I don’t know if this is good news or bad news but it looks like solid numbers so..
Antibody research indicates coronavirus may be far more widespread than known
The first large-scale community test of 3,300 people in Santa Clara County found that 2.5 to 4.2% of those tested were positive for antibodies — a number suggesting a far higher past infection rate than the official count.
Based on the initial data, researchers estimate that the range of people who may have had the virus to be between 48,000 and 81,000 in the county of 2 million — as opposed to the approximately 1,000 in the county’s official tally at the time the samples were taken.
“Our findings suggest that there is somewhere between 50- and 80-fold more infections in our county than what’s known by the number of cases than are reported by our department of public health,” Dr. Eran Bendavid, the associate professor of medicine at Stanford University who led the study, said in an interview with ABC News’ Diane Sawyer.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/antibody-research-coronavirus-widespread/story?id=70206121
@ eaglesoars:
Another hole in the lock down0
coldwarrior wrote:
Is it really tho? The way I read the numbers – and I’m a lay person so What Do I Know? is in full force – I think it says the virus has been around for a long time; it’s incredibly infectious; its fatality rate is around that of the flu
If that’s the right interpretation about its really high R0, then it’s NOT good news.
??
@ eaglesoars:
yes it is.
this ranks with influenza, not a pandemic lock down we’re all gonna die.
R0 is a fun number to play with, don’t get mesmerized by it.
deaths per confirmed cases is key. i would LOVE to test everyone. that would blow this thing wide open.
this virus has been around since at least novemenber, if not earlier, and a whole lot of folks have already had it.
coldwarrior wrote:
got it, thanks
Here’s an abstract of the study
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.14.20062463v1
They recruited via Facebook! HA! They wanted a representative demographic
@ eaglesoars:
confirmed cases will have to come from mass testing, at a certain point, one can extrapolate the cases number so that you dont have to test everyone.
eaglesoars wrote:
Representative of what exactly?
coldwarrior wrote:
… and you know when this all comes out, the next thing the left is going to do is accuse Trump of over-reacting and causing the economy to crash because
he doesn’t believe in capitalismorange man bad.AZfederalist wrote:
demographic and geographic, adjusted for age, zip code, sex, ethnicity.
Altho they don’t say how many genders they collapsed down into 2.
*snort*
@ AZfederalist:
Yezzir.
This is a giant set up.
But, Trump already set the trap.
AZfederalist wrote:
Biden is saying Trump ‘punted’ because he knows he’s not capable of carrying out anything
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/retaliation-michigans-democrat-governor-threatens-extend-stay-home-order-response-operationgridlock-protesters/
@ Gateway Pundit
Head Case Barbie plays Governor get’s triggered. Due to people exercising their Constitutional rights she threatens to extend stay at home order. Recall this nut.
@ eaglesoars:
He got that all out of his mouth in a coherent sentence?
RIX wrote:
takes too long. Start tying her up in court with lawsuits and violate every order she gives. Keep her so busy with mosquito attacks she can’t do anything else. Refuse to accept her patronage at the dry cleaners, car repair, restaurant, department store. Harass her every way imaginable and make her life a misery. A moderately creative lawyer could send his kids to med school on this one.
If ever I saw a face that needed to meet up with a shovel at 70 mph, it’s hers.
Sec of Ag Perdue may be at the briefing that’s just started. The man has been great for ranchers but he’s hanging dairy farmers out to dry. They’re getting nada
@ eaglesoars:
There are already two federal law suits on he. I do like your strategery.
RIX wrote:
“Her”
look at this
Dairy Farmers of America says its members are dumping out 3.7 million gallons of milk a day, and the farmers say they can’t donate it to food banks because dairy processing plants are closing down due to lack of demand or to protect their workers.
.
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Most meat is processed at giant facilities, creating a weak point in the production chain. One of the largest pork processing plants in the U.S., in South Dakota, shut down Sunday as the virus spread through its workforce, and the coronavirus-linked closure of two of the seven biggest U.S. beef processing facilities has reduced beef production by up to 25 percent, The Washington Post reports. Industry officials are warning of hoarding, especially of cheaper cuts of meat.
“The first problem is we don’t have enough people to process the animals, and No. 2 is they can’t do carcass balance because restaurants are down,”
There is a catastrophic misalignment between supply and demand. We are oversupplied everywhere NOW. But just wait.
Oh, Perdue just said milk would go to food banks. That’s a HUGE help, nobody was getting thru to him, hubby spent an hour on the phone yesterday yelling at people. The issue tho may not be solved. Food banks need refigeration.
Anyhow, the hard facts are that the labor shortages on the farms is due to low wages. It is brutally hard work but the pay doesn’t reflect that. Farmers are so accustomed to making next to nothing that paying other people market rates seems obscene to them. But they are locked into gov’t subsidies so their costs are distorted and all of a sudden you’ve lost the pricing signal.
That has to change. We would all be paying more for food but that’s the only way out of this I see.
forgot the link. again. my only talent.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/909359/beef-processors-are-closing-plants-warn-beef-shortages-hoarding
RIX wrote:
“shovel”
eaglesoars wrote:
fine by me.
air, water, food, med equipment, defense parts…all strategically important.
yer not gonna believe this. I ordered a planter for the deck I can grow herbs in and the process didn’t tell me until AFTER I pressed ‘place order’ that it won’t be shipped until July. July 29 to be exact, so that’s August when it won’t do me the slightest good.
Bastards.
WM didnt pick up any of my cardboard…i broke it down and bundled it.
customer service was no help.
ok, i’m done recycling.
tonight i’m gonna burn a shit ton of cardboard, wood, and anything else i can get my hands on.
that flatscreen that i cant take to the recycling center because virus…cut that up with my saws-all and put it in garbage bags. same for these two old lap tops.
i’m done.
@ eaglesoars:
if its amazon you can cancel
coldwarrior wrote:
It’s not. I’m TRYING to support family owned businesses and stuff. I’m not canceling the order, this is owned by a married couple/entrepeneurs and they’re dealing with supply issues too. I just wish I would have known before I bought. I’ll make do in the meantime, it’s what I want. First world problems, I can get over my precious self.
https://www.lifezette.com/2020/04/michigan-governor-caves-to-pressure-and-protest-says-shell-reopen-state-may-1st/
If you can’t make them see the light…
make’em feel the heat.
@ eaglesoars:
I saw a news piece saying that Amazon was giving shipping dates WAAAAAY out because of the whole virus situation, and that the packages were being delivered in the usual timeframe.
They do NOT want to underdeliver.
@ rain of lead:
she needs to be removed.
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
yep.
we get prolly 10-20 amazon deliveries a week. minimal delays.
@ eaglesoars:
i either use amazon or get local, i try to get local first
but, if i have to choose between big box and amazon, i have it delivered by amazon so i dont have to fight through traffic. they are the same in my eyes.
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
That is the first lesson you learn when you hit the team lead/mgr level. It is foundational.
It never failed but some hot-shit new marketing VP would make it to the executive dining room and promise the board the moon. Then he’d come down to IT where the actual work was done, start snapping his fingers and get his ass kicked.
It also never failed that there was a direct back door channel between the board and the IT department so the board always did a reality check with us while Golden Boy was still in the elevator coming down from the Penthouse to the bowels of the machine room.
I lost count of the marketing VPs I had to leash-train.
rain of lead wrote:
HAR!!!
sigh
https://www.weaselzippers.us/447288-yikes-drones-donated-by-china-now-being-used-to-enforce-social-distancing-here-in-22-states/
@ coldwarrior:
When Bonnie was so ill and I really couldn’t leave the house for any period of time, I used grocery delivery services all the time. They’re wonderful BUT you pay a premium for the fee and the tip (I’m a generous tipper, those guys got 30% because they lugged those groceries from the truck to my actual kitchen counter, bless them). But I learned to order a few days early so they could get stuff from the warehouse if needed, or make substitutions if needed, none of this 4 hour time frame. It requires some planning – oh, crap, I forgot the chocolate chip cookies! doesn’t cut it.
rain of lead wrote:
I don’t see the social distancing in 22 states part, but I’m forwarding this to hubby, I know a lot of his farmers are using drones.
Trump slamming Virginia Governor.
good god
Chlorine Dioxide can kill the coronavirus, that’s been proven. What they don’t tell you is that it’s safe to add to water and drink at low, responsible doses. Where is that for breaking news? Instead, they feed you blatant propaganda. That should be a crime against humanity.
I thought twitter was banning unverified med advice
I believe this is what we added to our water during the Everglades Outward Bound Expedition, it is apparently an anti-microbial, but who the hell drinks penicillin? It doesn’t work like that.
https://twitter.com/Jordan_Sather_/status/1251138821372051456
eaglesoars wrote:
@ eaglesoars:
Sounds like another fish tank cleaner debacle waiting to happen. It’s not hard to kill viruses on surfaces. And there’s no evidence that it can spread through the water supply.
lobo91 wrote:
Human civilization is a slap in the face to the idea of Darwinism.
Anyhoo, it looks like Purdue is giving dairy farmers less than a dollar per hundred weight. I won’t bore you with the metrics but it’s not enough to make a difference. Food banks are a fine idea but not many have refrigerators, so…they’ll keep dumping milk
coldwarrior wrote:
Been there for years. Most recycling is actually more wasteful than just sending things to the landfill. … and nobody’s buying the plastic anyway. It all winds up in the landfill and you wind up paying that “recycling fee” for what could have been just the cost of garbage.
/Oh, and WM sucks. Bigtime. In our neighborhood, we had a small private firm for a reasonable price until the 2007 crash. They sold out to WM. Things continued for a while, then they made us use their big container. Then prices kept going up, 10% or more a year. Then the fuel surcharge. The last time I used, them, they were wanting $37.50 per month for trash — no recycling. There was a small company starting up with really good prices, $10 per month. Went well for about 9 months, they over-extended and dumped us. Lots of people in the neighborhood went back to WM because WM offered some great rates, about $12 per month. I’m a contrary so and so, I don’t believe in rewarding bad behavior. I know if WM gets the ascendency, we’ll be back to $30+ a month in a few short years. Found another local that is higher than the “get you hooked” WM rate, but will be cheaper in a year or so.
rain of lead wrote:
I know that shooting them out of the sky will get you in trouble, but I think some anonymous air to air action would be entertaining and safer for those engaging in it. No projectiles, I’m thinking more along the lines of battle-bots,
eaglesoars wrote:
Good.
eaglesoars wrote:
What? 8.3 cents a gallon isn’t enough to make it worth their while?
@ AZfederalist:
The truth is painful but inescapable. We produce more milk than is needed to meet demand. The economics are 1st grade level.
Some years ago New Zealand bit the bullet and let Darwin have at it. They now have a sustainable dairy industry.
I’m off to bed. nite.
eaglesoars wrote:
A waste of good stout soap frankly.
The thing the WHO fears most is losing all that business class travel and the opportunity to rip off the system.
Get rid of their funding and they revert to being just annoying little tyrants having hissy fits!
🙂
coldwarrior wrote:
OIL !!!!
ENERGY !!!!
IT SUPPORT !!
LOGISTIC INFRASTRUCTURE !!!
COMMAND & CONTROL SYSTEMS !!!
INTELLIGENCE !!!
In order to have a 21st Centure civilisation.
Sure water and food and shelter give you short term survival level assets but if you want a civilisation then you need a LOT more systems.
🙂
eaglesoars wrote:
Very true Eagles. Fortunately Fontarra kept its Farmer co-operative ownership model and grafted on a marketing arm. Works well. Still NZ Dairy farmers are still out produced by some US based Wisconsin farms.
The other secret was:-
Long term supply contracts based on an annual dry milk powder universal price/ Kg. Takes the risk out of forward planning for both the producers and the customers.
Value add at economic and vertically integrated centralised production and marketing facilities where unit capital costs were minimised.
Government deregulation and freeing up capital for reinvestment and further marketing.
Staying ‘lucky’ by having grass fed outside herds in a climate that doesn’t have extremes of temperature
🙂
eaglesoars wrote:
Right on Eagles.
All of the ‘marginal’ milk producers went broke or switched to venison and sheep / beef production. Alternatively some totally switched to horticulture or sold their cars, purchased huge stands of Manuka scrub land and allowed a trillion bees to their work for them producing ‘brown gold’ Manuka honey
None went broke
My business partner and I were buying honey in Rotorua 18 months ago. There was a pallet of honey. $X 50 gallon drums of medical grade Manuka Honey worth $1.2 million in total. It was used for medical dressings for open heart surgeries to ensure that no infection could possibly get a hold.
Cunning way to diversify when milking cows loses its appeal
🙂
$X50 gallon = 4X50 Gallon
@ Aussie Infidel:
A human must
Breathe
Drink water
Eat food.
Then all else is next.
Larkin Poe’s first livestream concert is tomorrow at 4:00 eastern time, if anyone’s interested: https://larkinpoe.veeps.com/
Prof Mary-Ann Brady takes in China. Takedown! Was they ever any question.
This is one ‘gutsy’ lady !
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/christchurch/canterbury-mornings-with-chris-lynch/audio/professor-anne-marie-brady-global-crisis-caused-by-regime-you-have-been-tolerating-for-decades
@ rain of lead:
Pull!
Yeah, I know that’s a great way to spend serious time in jail.
BTW- I guess the scumbag that murdered my coworker and her little girl had his first court appearance and he was very smug and smirking. And I was told he shot the mom in the face. The more I hear the more I want to see him beat to death.
@ AZfederalist:
Our service is provided by the city, included with the water bill, IIRC. I think WM is the company.