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Day 35 of the Great American Lockdown

by coldwarrior ( 115 Comments › )
Filed under Open thread at April 18th, 2020 - 7:00 am

LET MY PEOPLE GO!

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  1. rain of lead
    1 | April 18, 2020 7:05 am

    morning y’all


  2. rain of lead
    3 | April 18, 2020 7:17 am

    @ rain of lead:

    hmmm….
    wonder how dats gonna work as right now my store is out of masks
    also sanitizer, tp,pt, and gloves (store supplies)


  3. RIX
    4 | April 18, 2020 8:16 am

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/04/15/coronavirus-police-maryland-town-urge-residents-wear-pants/5140750002/
    @ USAToday
    Police are now m-ndting that guys wear pants when they check the mail box.
    So far no description of offenders. Nobody can prove that I did it, right? Cause you know ,it was totally not me as far as you know.


  4. eaglesoars
    5 | April 18, 2020 8:36 am

    So I just wondering…remember when this first started and all those BLACK NBA players came out defending China because, well, they’re getting big bucks on the product endorsement side and stuff?

    So now we find out that anti-black racism among Chinese is the norm and it is virulent. They don’t let them in restaurants and in Africa the One Belt One Road project is on the ropes because the Africans are up to their back teeth with China’s venality and dishonesty and, well, racist attitudes.

    You think all those NBA players will be giving that money back? Or stop taking it?

    Me neither.


  5. Buckeye Abroad
    6 | April 18, 2020 10:45 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    I have mate in South Africa that does business with the mining companies on the IT side. He has been to sites where the Chinese paid/bribed for the rights and then bring in their crews to strip the place bare. One would think this would at least raise employment for the the locals regarding jobs. Nope. They bring in their own cooks, security guards, blue collar wokers, drivers, etc..and the local tax base gets little to nothing.

    He likens the Chinese to a plague of locusts.


  6. eaglesoars
    7 | April 18, 2020 11:04 am

    @ Buckeye Abroad:

    The Chinese have been using their One Belt One Road system to export their excess male population, a gift of their One Child policy. Kept at home with no work and no wives (fewer females), they tend to cause trouble.


  7. Deplorable Bumr50
    8 | April 18, 2020 11:10 am

    @ Buckeye Abroad:

    Every strip mall nail salon/food buffet here has an all-Chinese supply chain.

    When my in-laws were stationed in the Philly suburbs, Chinese lived in the house across the street from them. It was a tight 3bd/2 ba. Every morning no less than 15 of them would load into two vans.

    I’m not sure how they’re run, but in the strip mall by me there’s a sort of “pimp” who goes between both places yelling a lot and driving a Hummer.


  8. Deplorable Bumr50
    9 | April 18, 2020 11:12 am

    @ Deplorable Bumr50:

    The “newer” ones anyway. There are some older Chinese restaurants around whose families are fully integrated, and really good people.


  9. eaglesoars
    10 | April 18, 2020 12:56 pm

    oh cool! My step son just sent us a bunch of masks that his Domino stores don’t need right now. He said he’ll send more later. These are sent to him by corporate for all the employees.


  10. lobo91
    11 | April 18, 2020 1:01 pm

    Stimulus intended to help coronavirus-ravaged small businesses instead rewarding hedge funds, brokerages

    When the chief executive of a midsized bank was briefed on the status of small-business loans being made under the federal government’s coronavirus stimulus plan, he nearly hit the roof.

    The bank was receiving applications not just from those barely solvent mom-and-pop businesses like restaurants, salons and family-run factories shuttered amid the nationwide pandemic shutdown that the legislation was supposed to help. Flowing into his system were applications from businesses no one would consider small, or even barely solvent: Midsized hedge funds, brokerage businesses, small law firms, all outfits that are making money, much of it through fee income, and operating remotely almost as if nothing had changed.

    What the banker discovered was that with less than 500 employees, financial firms and other high-end businesses are technically qualified for low-interest federally guaranteed loans under the broad parameters of the government’s Payroll Protection Program. And many were sending applications to his bank for the cash, as much as $10 million in the form of a forgivable loan even if these weren’t the types of small businesses Washington was looking to aid.

    Even worse, the hedge funds and brokerage businesses were in effect taking money that should be earmarked for businesses that can barely survive in a time of social distancing and quarantines. These companies have been forced to lay off workers just to make rent, while many banks were prioritizing loans on a first-come, first-served basis and giving priority to their best customers. That means hedge funds and financial firms with deep pockets and significant banking relationships could be getting the money ahead of the local coffee shop.

    “Unlike the local coffee shop, hedge funds and brokerage firms are still earning fee income from their clients,” said the banker, a well-known fixture in the financial business, who spoke on the condition that neither he nor his firm would be identified. “And now they’re taking money away from people who need it the most.”


  11. eaglesoars
    12 | April 18, 2020 1:20 pm

    @ lobo91:

    That’s not the first time I’ve heard that. There are a few people I can ask about it but because nobody can meet face-to-face and I don’t dare put it on email…………..


  12. 13 | April 18, 2020 1:32 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Stimulus intended to help coronavirus-ravaged small businesses instead rewarding hedge funds, brokerages

    When the chief executive of a midsized bank was briefed on the status of small-business loans being made under the federal government’s coronavirus stimulus plan, he nearly hit the roof.

    The bank was receiving applications not just from those barely solvent mom-and-pop businesses like restaurants, salons and family-run factories shuttered amid the nationwide pandemic shutdown that the legislation was supposed to help. Flowing into his system were applications from businesses no one would consider small, or even barely solvent: Midsized hedge funds, brokerage businesses, small law firms, all outfits that are making money, much of it through fee income, and operating remotely almost as if nothing had changed.

    What the banker discovered was that with less than 500 employees, financial firms and other high-end businesses are technically qualified for low-interest federally guaranteed loans under the broad parameters of the government’s Payroll Protection Program. And many were sending applications to his bank for the cash, as much as $10 million in the form of a forgivable loan even if these weren’t the types of small businesses Washington was looking to aid.

    Even worse, the hedge funds and brokerage businesses were in effect taking money that should be earmarked for businesses that can barely survive in a time of social distancing and quarantines. These companies have been forced to lay off workers just to make rent, while many banks were prioritizing loans on a first-come, first-served basis and giving priority to their best customers. That means hedge funds and financial firms with deep pockets and significant banking relationships could be getting the money ahead of the local coffee shop.

    “Unlike the local coffee shop, hedge funds and brokerage firms are still earning fee income from their clients,” said the banker, a well-known fixture in the financial business, who spoke on the condition that neither he nor his firm would be identified. “And now they’re taking money away from people who need it the most.”

    Not suprising, people in the financial industry tend to be the most dishonest and unethical people on earth.


  13. lobo91
    14 | April 18, 2020 2:12 pm

    The Stasi comes to NYC:

    Mayor De Blasio: Here’s How You Can Report On Your Neighbor

    Mayor Bill de Blasio

    @NYCMayor

    How do you report places that aren’t enforcing social distancing? It’s simple: just snap a photo and text it to 311-692. #AskMyMayor


  14. Aussie Infidel
    15 | April 18, 2020 10:27 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    The Stasi comes to NYC:

    Mayor De Blasio: Here’s How You Can Report On Your Neighbor

    Mayor Bill de Blasio

    @NYCMayor

    How do you report places that aren’t enforcing social distancing? It’s simple: just snap a photo and text it to 311-692. #AskMyMayor

    In western Australian parks the local fuzz are using drones with load speakers and flashing blue lights telling folks on the ground to stay apart.

    Only in gentrified suburbs however. In country areas the drones are being targeted by guys with shotguns and bird shot.

    🙂

    Methinks the cops are going to run out of drones before the ‘bushes’ run out of ammunition!

    🙂


  15. Aussie Infidel
    16 | April 18, 2020 10:28 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    In case you missed this Eagles……

    Prof Mary-Ann Brady takes on China.
    Takedown!
    Was they ever any question.

    This is one ‘gutsy’ lady !

    https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/christchurch/canterbury-mornings-with-chris-lynch/audio/professor-anne-marie-brady-global-crisis-caused-by-regime-you-have-been-tolerating-for-decades


  16. Aussie Infidel
    17 | April 18, 2020 10:56 pm

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    He likens the Chinese to a plague of locusts.

    or …..

    THE BORG

    🙂


  17. Aussie Infidel
    18 | April 18, 2020 11:21 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    @ doriangrey:
    Hey guys.

    Can you point me in the right direction regarding proof that the Chinese timeline for halting INTERNAL flights out of Wuhan but keeping the INTERNATIONAL flights going for some period of time?

    Been getting push back on whether there is a valid timeline involved that would support the intentional international spread of Hunan flu by the Chinese government.

    🙂


  18. Aussie Infidel
    19 | April 18, 2020 11:25 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    The Stasi comes to NYC:

    Mayor De Blasio: Here’s How You Can Report On Your Neighbor

    Mayor Bill de Blasio

    @NYCMayor

    How do you report places that aren’t enforcing social distancing? It’s simple: just snap a photo and text it to 311-692. #AskMyMayor

    Those who give up their liberty to safeguard their security end up having neither security nor liberty.


  19. eaglesoars
    20 | April 18, 2020 11:32 pm

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    oh, thank you, yes I did miss it…….


  20. eaglesoars
    21 | April 18, 2020 11:39 pm

    This is a transportation site, it notes the re-opening of Wuhan airport Apr 8 and

    Wuhan’s local government announced the shutdown of all urban transport network and a suspension of outgoing flights from the morning of 23 January.

    I don’t know if that’s domestic or intl, still looking

    https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/wuhan-airport-reopens-after-months-long-lockdown/137854.article


  21. eaglesoars
    22 | April 18, 2020 11:44 pm

    In two recent interviews with Chinese media, Li Lanjuan, a member of the high-level expert team convened by the National Health Commission, disclosed details of experts’ discoveries in hospitals in Wuhan and their reports to Chinese leaders in Beijing between January 17 and January 23, the day Wuhan had lockdown imposed.

    This really is an excellent article

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3078189/build-coronavirus-lockdown-inside-chinas-decision-close-wuhan


  22. eaglesoars
    23 | April 18, 2020 11:53 pm

    Here is a piece from Feb 7 about China being pissed off that international flights were being banned

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3049578/china-hits-back-international-travel-bans-concerns-grow


  23. eaglesoars
    24 | April 18, 2020 11:55 pm

    TA DA!!

    Mar 29 they heavily restricted international flights. This piece is from Mar 26 and references ‘Sunday’ which would have been the 29th

    China slashes inbound and outbound international flights in drastic action to curtail imported coronavirus cases

    From Sunday, Chinese airlines will be allowed to fly just one weekly route to one city per country, operating it at no more than 75 per cent capacity

    Beijing also imposes ban on most foreign travellers entering the country

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3077166/china-slashes-inbound-and-outbound-international-flights-drastic


  24. eaglesoars
    25 | April 18, 2020 11:58 pm

    So, skimming thru this, Jan 23 was the cut-off date for domestic because the Lunar New Year was Jan 24

    Why they waited so long for international…well


  25. eaglesoars
    26 | April 19, 2020 12:07 am

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    wanted to be sure you saw this. First saw it on the Daily Mail but it’s gone now, but it’s over a week old so it’s been picked up

    CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK MAY HAVE STARTED AS EARLY AS SEPTEMBER, SCIENTISTS SAY

    Based on the data Forster and his colleagues have collected, the coronavirus outbreak appears to have started between September 13 and December 7. “This assumes a constant mutation rate, which is admittedly unlikely to be the case, and the time estimate could therefore be wrong,” he told Newsweek. “But it is the best assumption we can make at the moment, pending analysis of further patient samples stored in hospitals during 2019.”

    He said it is possible the outbreak did not originate in Wuhan, as until January 17, almost all the isolates were type B. In Guangdong, a province about 500 miles from Wuhan, seven of the 11 isolates were type A. “These case numbers are small because few genomes are available for the early stage of the outbreak, before the Chinese New Year travel pre-January 25 would have started mixing patterns up geographically,” Forster said.

    https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-outbreak-september-not-wuhan-1498566

    This is out of Cambridge Univ.


  26. eaglesoars
    27 | April 19, 2020 12:12 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    And don’t forget, there were joint military games in Wuhan (I think it was a sporting event maybe?) with several nations participating, the U.S. was one. The dates are Oct 18 thru Oct 27 I think and their transport departed and returned at Seattle Washington, where our first outbreaks occurred.

    ok, past my bedtime, I’ll save the Brady interview for tomorrow, nite.


  27. eaglesoars
    28 | April 19, 2020 12:17 am

    Oh, almost forgot. I talked to a guy in Poland on twitter who said several of his military friends had come down with something ‘funny’ last Nov-Dec time frame. He said Poland’s military also participated in whatever it was in Wuhan.

    ok, I’m out


  28. lobo91
    29 | April 19, 2020 12:29 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    It was some sort of “military Olympics” sort of thing. Sporting event for military people from various countries.


  29. coldwarrior
    30 | April 19, 2020 6:56 am

    Happy Orthodox Easter yinz!


  30. rain of lead
    31 | April 19, 2020 6:57 am

    yup

    Watch establishment opinion on reopening change in a hurry once journalists and government workers are losing their jobs.


  31. Deplorable Bumr50
    32 | April 19, 2020 7:15 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Happy Easter, CW!


  32. rain of lead
    33 | April 19, 2020 7:19 am

    THINGS THAT SOUTHERN BOYS WILL NEVER SAY
    30. When I retire, I’m movin’ North.

    29. I’ll take Shakespeare for $1000, Alex.

    28. Duct tape won’t fix that.

    27. Come to think of it, I’ll have a Heineken with a slice of lime.

    26. We don’t keep no guns in this house.

    25. You can’t feed that to the dog.

    24. No kids in the back of the pickup, it’s just not safe.

    23. Wrestling is fake.

    22. We’re vegetarians.

    21. Do you think my gut is too big?

    20. I’ll have grapefruit and grapes instead of biscuits, grits, and gravy.

    19. Honey, we don’t need another dog.

    18. Who gives a rip who won the Civil War?

    17. Give me the small bag of pork rinds.

    16. Too many deer heads detract from the decor.

    15. I just couldn’t find a thing at Wal-Mart today.

    14. Trim the fat off that steak.

    13. Cappuccino tastes better than espresso.

    12. The tires on that truck are too dang big.

    11. I’ve got it all on the C: DRIVE.

    10. Unsweetened tea tastes better.

    9. My fiancée, Bobbie Jo, is registered at Tiffany’s.

    8. I’ve got two cases of Blue Moon iced down for the Super Bowl.

    7. Checkmate!

    6. She’s too young to be wearing that bikini.

    5. Hey, here’s an episode of “Hee Haw” that we haven’t seen.

    4. I don’t have a favorite football team.

    3. “Youse Guys”

    2. Those cutoffs ought to be a little longer, Betty Mae.

    AND THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT YOU WILL NEVER HEAR A SOUTHERN BOY SAY:

    1. Nope, no more beer for me. I’m driving a whole busload of us down to help in the Joe Biden Campaign.


  33. 34 | April 19, 2020 7:52 am

    I saw a posting on Facebook which showed a black man being arrested with the caption they should’ve followed the rules; it showed illegal immigrants behind a fence with the caption they should’ve followed the rules; and it showed a group of white anti-COVID-19 protesters with the caption they should’ve followed the rules.


  34. eaglesoars
    35 | April 19, 2020 8:24 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Happy Orthodox Easter yinz!

    Happy Easter, CW!

    And Merry Christmas to Joe Biden!


  35. eaglesoars
    36 | April 19, 2020 8:28 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    yup

    Watch establishment opinion on reopening change in a hurry once journalists and government workers are losing their jobs.

    somehow I don’t see gov’t workers losing their jobs. Furloughed, yea, but gone? I doubt it.

    The journos have already started losing theirs and I wouldn’t even have known if they hadn’t bellyached about “being essential to democracy” on twitter. The comments on those threads were delightful.


  36. Deplorable Bumr50
    37 | April 19, 2020 8:49 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    somehow I don’t see gov’t workers losing their jobs. Furloughed, yea, but gone? I doubt it.

    “We expect significant reductions in payroll tax and earned income tax because of the furloughs that have occurred. And then you also have to assume a drop off in our biggest revenue generator, which is property tax,” Gilman said.

    The city is losing out on its $66 million a year parking tax. They’re losing a big chunk of their $50 million a year deed transfer tax and $21 million from the amusement tax is dried up.

    All in all, it is a huge hit on a $650 million annual budget.

    Gilman says the city will need some help.

    “We made a commitment to not furlough our employees and to provide those services. But we don’t have the revenue coming in,” Gilman said. “That’s going to take the federal government getting involved and providing it.”

    https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/04/17/pittsburgh-budget-troubles-amid-coronavirus-pandemic/


  37. eaglesoars
    38 | April 19, 2020 9:17 am

    @ Deplorable Bumr50:

    And if the IRS is permitting delays in filing, the states are going to be running late also because they use the Fed taxes for something or other, I forget. Because I’m not awake


  38. RIX
    39 | April 19, 2020 10:18 am

    https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/04/18/patton-oswalt-anne-frank-lived-without-netflix-and-food-delivery-so-what-are-stay-at-home-protesters-complaining-about/
    @ Twitchy
    Aaaaaaand the biggest a–hole comment during the pandemic goes to this obscure “comedian.”


  39. Deplorable Bumr50
    40 | April 19, 2020 11:21 am

    @ RIX:

    He doesn’t understand the concept that people maintain employment in order to live, and be able to eat at Fuddruckers.


  40. eaglesoars
    41 | April 19, 2020 11:48 am

    I hate to say it but this makes a good case for how Biden could pick Michelle Obama as his VP.

    He maintains that the Obamas are still very popular and while I take exception to that, I could be biased.

    https://nypost.com/2020/04/18/how-the-obamas-could-easily-win-8-more-years-in-the-white-house/


  41. eaglesoars
    42 | April 19, 2020 12:00 pm

    This is a documentary on SAR. Haven’t watched it yet

    https://youtu.be/C-wf_cC0Kek


  42. 43 | April 19, 2020 12:10 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    I can easily see that.

    God help us- she’s more power mad than Barack.


  43. eaglesoars
    44 | April 19, 2020 2:01 pm

    right_wing2 wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    I can easily see that.

    God help us- she’s more power mad than Barack.

    Barak is intellegent. Michelle is as dumb as a box of rocks


  44. eaglesoars
    45 | April 19, 2020 2:08 pm

    If you’re interested in Medieval art here are 10 books you can download for free

    Also, the link mentions about 500 other pubs avail for free download.

    https://www.medievalists.net/2020/04/10-books-about-medieval-art-you-can-now-download-for-free-courtesy-the-met/


  45. 46 | April 19, 2020 4:14 pm

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    In western Australian parks the local fuzz are using drones with load speakers and flashing blue lights telling folks on the ground to stay apart.

    Only in gentrified suburbs however. In country areas the drones are being targeted by guys with shotguns and bird shot.

    Heh.


  46. AZfederalist
    47 | April 19, 2020 4:20 pm

    Bunk X wrote:

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    In western Australian parks the local fuzz are using drones with load speakers and flashing blue lights telling folks on the ground to stay apart.

    Only in gentrified suburbs however. In country areas the drones are being targeted by guys with shotguns and bird shot.

    Heh.

    I’m thinking equipping another drone, battle-bot style and engaging in aerial attacks might be loads of fun.


  47. 48 | April 19, 2020 4:35 pm

    @ AZfederalist:
    Get upwind and unload a can of SprayMent at it.


  48. eaglesoars
    50 | April 19, 2020 6:51 pm

    *snort*

    Germany sends China £130billion bill for ‘coronavirus damages’ – sparks fury in Beijing

    A bombshell op-ed this week in Germany’s largest tabloid newspaper, Bild, joined this outrage by drawing up an itemised invoice for €149bn (£130b).

    The list includes a €27 billion charge for lost tourism revenue, up to €7.2 billion for the German film industry, a million euros an hour for German airline Lufthansa and €50 billion for German small businesses.

    Bild calculated that this amounts to €1,784 (£1,550) per person if Germany’s GDP falls by 4.2 percent, under the title “What China owes us.”

    China responded by claiming the invoice “stirs up xenophobia and nationalism”.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1271028/Angela-Merkel-Germany-China-coronavirus-blame-Wuhan-Xi-Jinping-Trump-latest


  49. AZfederalist
    51 | April 19, 2020 7:31 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    China responded by claiming the invoice “stirs up xenophobia and nationalism”.

    When even the wimps in Germany are taking China to task; it would be in China’s best interest to be quiet and hope this all blows over


  50. lobo91
    52 | April 19, 2020 7:34 pm

    Brand new song from Joe Bonamassa, from the recent Abbey Road recording sessions:


  51. eaglesoars
    53 | April 19, 2020 8:19 pm

    @ AZfederalist:

    China’s shot across the bow was the ‘nationalism’ part. As far as Germans are concerned the term doesn’t mean pride in one’s country but a desire for domination. It’s considered a root cause of the rise of the Nazis and it’s a sore spot for the Huns. China was basically calling them proto-Nazis.

    That won’t sit will with the Germans. They’re just as racist as the Chinese and they will have no problem fucking with them, Huawei 5G or no.


  52. eaglesoars
    54 | April 19, 2020 8:53 pm

    ok, but I don’t understand why they – and others – are filing in U.S. courts

    The Israeli NGO Shurat HaDin plans to file a class action lawsuit against China in the coming days over its alleged negligence in treating and containing the coronavirus, N12 reported on Sunday.

    The Israeli lawsuit, once filed, will join at least four on-going lawsuits submitted to US courts against Chinese authorities over the pandemic, according to Newsweek.

    https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israel-US-law-firms-sue-China-for-trillions-of-dollars-over-coronavirus-625128


  53. Aussie Infidel
    55 | April 19, 2020 8:59 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Happy Orthodox Easter yinz!

    Happy Easter Cold.

    He is risen …. again!

    🙂

    All the best to you and your’s mate


  54. Aussie Infidel
    56 | April 19, 2020 9:14 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    ok, but I don’t understand why they – and others – are filing in U.S. courts

    The Israeli NGO Shurat HaDin plans to file a class action lawsuit against China in the coming days over its alleged negligence in treating and containing the coronavirus, N12 reported on Sunday.

    The Israeli lawsuit, once filed, will join at least four on-going lawsuits submitted to US courts against Chinese authorities over the pandemic, according to Newsweek.

    https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israel-US-law-firms-sue-China-for-trillions-of-dollars-over-coronavirus-625128

    Because US courts are more amenable to Class Action Suites with more filing largess for complainants.

    Or maybe they are just hoping that the US media will get on the bandwagon as the pressure on China for reparations grow

    🙂


  55. Aussie Infidel
    57 | April 19, 2020 9:15 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Oh and by the way Eagles a thousand thank-yous for doing all of that research. I will re-enter the fray better armed this time!

    HEH

    🙂


  56. eaglesoars
    58 | April 19, 2020 9:33 pm

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    most welcome! I had fun doing it.

    I just don’t understand the legal principle that gives foreign plaintiffs standing in U.S. courts in something that is global


  57. eaglesoars
    59 | April 19, 2020 9:36 pm

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    This is Anne Marie’s latest. She doesn’t really outline what an alliance would look like (military, trade, etc.), tho.

    Coronavirus: Could an alliance with Taiwan help NZ survive the coronavirus cataclysm?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/121113908/coronavirus-could-an-alliance-with-taiwan-help-nz-survive-the-coronavirus-cataclysm

    And there was this bit which I hadn’t known:

    It has become clear that China will extract a high political cost for any Covid-19 assistance they provide to New Zealand. China is now denying New Zealand’s new Hong Kong Head of Mission’s right of accreditation, apparently as punishment for restricting travel to New Zealand from China. The Chinese government, and Huawei, have pointedly sent bulk supplies of PPE to countries who have not yet made a final decision on Huawei in their 5G system.


  58. eaglesoars
    60 | April 19, 2020 9:40 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    I just don’t understand the legal principle that gives foreign plaintiffs standing in U.S. courts in something that is global

    ah. From Professor Glenn Reynolds where I asked the question on his blog

    Because the US has sweeping extraterritorial jurisdiction and it’s very hard to move money around the world in a way that US courts can’t attach it.


  59. eaglesoars
    61 | April 19, 2020 10:10 pm

    Ok, if the lawsuits are intended to freeze China’s international transactions, I wonder if anything will happen to China’s access to the SDR basket. That might be a jolt.

    I’m off to bed, nite.


  60. Aussie Infidel
    62 | April 20, 2020 4:39 am

    Looks as if there is TROUBLE AT MILL, in China. Reports from overseas Chinese that the head of Police in China, possibly Director of Public Security (the cops) from the Ministry of Public Security Zhao Kezhi has been arrested with a large group of his fellow cops.

    Still hazy about which cop got his collar felt but Zhao is suggested to be the plotter.Looks as if Xi has problems with plots within China in a time of increasing trouble and failing trade terms and balance of trade problems.

    There should be more news out there by tomorrow unless the Chinese crush any stories currently leaking out of China.


  61. Aussie Infidel
    63 | April 20, 2020 4:51 am

    @ Aussie Infidel:
    My China source is gold plated and gets it right 95% of the time.

    🙂

    Anyone else hear anything?


  62. Deplorable Bumr50
    64 | April 20, 2020 7:15 am

    Light crude is trading at 13 bucks a barrel.


  63. 65 | April 20, 2020 7:50 am

    @ Deplorable Bumr50:
    I paid $1.30/gal last week.


  64. Deplorable Bumr50
    66 | April 20, 2020 8:14 am

    @ right_wing2:

    This is catastrophic for the US oil industry.


  65. RIX
    67 | April 20, 2020 8:42 am

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/04/19/governors-decry-trump-call-liberate-states-coronavirus-restrictions/5162196002/
    @ USAToday
    Dem Governors get twisted out of shape over Trum’p’s “”Liberate” tweets.
    How. dare he support the restless peasants. ” Constitution? We no need no stinking constitution. Why you no be polite?”


  66. RIX
    68 | April 20, 2020 9:24 am

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/tyrannical-governor-phil-murphy-bans-annual-drive-tulip-farm-threatens-arrest-farmer-one-car-drives/
    NJ Governor Murphy threatens to arrest tulip father if even one car drives through his property to view tulips.
    These governors view free people as chattels pf the state. This goes far beyond safety.
    As an aside he allows another farmer to host the viewing on his property.


  67. coldwarrior
    69 | April 20, 2020 10:04 am

    @ RIX:

    Must destroy orange man bad economy


  68. eaglesoars
    70 | April 20, 2020 10:16 am

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    Anyone else hear anything?

    Daily Mail has been running some pieces on it. This is today’s

    China’s deputy public security minister, who was sent by Beijing to supervise the security affairs in Wuhan during the coronavirus epidemic, is being investigated by the country’s main anti-corruption body, the authority has said.

    Sun Lijun is said to be probed for ‘serious violations of discipline and the law’, a euphemism for corruption.
    .
    .
    A growing number of Communist Party cadres have been caught in President Xi Jinping’s anti-corruption campaign, which critics say has also served as a way to remove the leader’s political enemies.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8236195/Chinese-official-leading-coronavirus-operations-Wuhan-faces-corruption-probe.html


  69. eaglesoars
    71 | April 20, 2020 10:22 am

    Good piece on China by H.R. McMaster

    How China Sees the World

    https://outline.com/JyMnhc

    must run, TA!


  70. eaglesoars
    72 | April 20, 2020 10:48 am

    Oh, no violation of 1st amend rights here, no siree!

    Anti-quarantine protests being organized through Facebook in California, New Jersey, and Nebraska, are being removed from the platform on the instruction of governments in those three states because it violates stay-at-home orders, Facebook spokesperson

    https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1252224126279802881


  71. coldwarrior
    73 | April 20, 2020 11:16 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    remember when the left was all about free speech and free expression?

    now, not so much.


  72. 74 | April 20, 2020 11:23 am

    @ eaglesoars:
    Aren’t most of those stay at home orders being enacted through Executive Order of the governor?


  73. RIX
    75 | April 20, 2020 11:42 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ RIX:

    Must destroy orange man bad economy

    And they are willing to destroy jobs and lives. Patriotism is an illness to these people.


  74. Deplorable Bumr50
    76 | April 20, 2020 12:56 pm

    $8.75/bbl WTI.

    This is nuts.


  75. eaglesoars
    77 | April 20, 2020 1:12 pm

    You know that blip I posted about some jurisdiction in Montana insisting people wear govt-issued arm bands in order to shop may be a hoax?

    It wasn’t.

    Montana County Demands People Wear Government-Issued Arm Bands To Do Business

    dated Apr 14

    https://montanadailygazette.com/2020/04/14/montana-county-demands-people-wear-government-issued-arm-bands-to-do-business/

    According to the flier produced by the Valley County Health Department, out-of-towners who lack the government-issued armbands will be prohibited from stores and residents are notified to call law enforcement if they do not comply.

    The health department even issued a script to warn customers to flee, saying, “You are violating our Governor’s and Valley County’s Health Officer’s orders. I am happy to shop for you with curbside delivery. I will get the items for you and bring them to your car. If you don’t cooperate, you will force me to call law enforcement.”


  76. eaglesoars
    78 | April 20, 2020 1:14 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    they rescinded it in short order after people started posting photos of concentration camp tatoos and said it was just a thought experiment that escaped from the lab.


  77. eaglesoars
    79 | April 20, 2020 2:21 pm

    You know that skatepark in Cali where they dumped all the sand to keep people out of it?

    Yeah, shovels, baby

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/social-shredding-defiant-residents-grab-shovels-dirt-bikes-after-cali-authorities-dump-tons-of-sand-in-skateparks-for-social-distancing


  78. eaglesoars
    80 | April 20, 2020 2:55 pm

    Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

    $8.75/bbl WTI.

    This is nuts.

    -$37.63

    Yep. MINUS


  79. 81 | April 20, 2020 2:57 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    The cops will show up with weapons drawn.


  80. Deplorable Bumr50
    82 | April 20, 2020 3:26 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    And just like that, the internet was full of oil experts!

    Bad day for a lot of folks on West Texas and East New Mexico.


  81. eaglesoars
    83 | April 20, 2020 3:31 pm

    Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:

    And just like that, the internet was full of oil experts!

    a week ago they were epidemiologists.


  82. eaglesoars
    84 | April 20, 2020 3:32 pm

    right_wing2 wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    The cops will show up with weapons drawn.

    not so far. They’re skating again


  83. coldwarrior
    85 | April 20, 2020 3:42 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    They will keep pushing until some pencil neck bureaucrat gets shot.


  84. coldwarrior
    86 | April 20, 2020 3:43 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:

    And just like that, the internet was full of oil experts!

    a week ago they were epidemiologists.

    And they had MS in applied statistics


  85. coldwarrior
    87 | April 20, 2020 3:47 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Contago


  86. coldwarrior
    88 | April 20, 2020 3:55 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    right_wing2 wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    The cops will show up with weapons drawn.

    not so far. They’re skating again

    YES!!!!

    i was a skater back in the 80’s.

    turn it up!!!!!!


  87. Possum
    89 | April 20, 2020 4:00 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

    $8.75/bbl WTI.

    This is nuts.

    -$37.63

    Yep. MINUS

    1. Order a barrel of oil, go pick it up and they pay me $37.63 to take it away.

    2. Dump oil in a secluded spot in countryside.

    3. Sell empty barrel for $31
    https://www.airseacontainers.com/55-gallon-used-drums-sold-as-is.html?msclkid=6129918bad311ea2c47acf1650693a12#page=page-1

    4. Profit $68.63

    I need to rent a trailer ASAP I am going to be rich.


  88. Deplorable Bumr50
    90 | April 20, 2020 4:06 pm

    Possum wrote:

    2. Dump oil in a secluded spot in countryside

    They will put you under the penitentiary, because you WON’T be able to pay the fine


  89. eaglesoars
    91 | April 20, 2020 4:27 pm

    I am enjoying my clean-out-the-fridge veggie cream soup made with my own chicken stock; my rosemary bread; and a lovely tomato, cuke, watermelon & mint salad w/avocado oil & mango vinegar dressing

    Then I’m taking a nap


  90. eaglesoars
    92 | April 20, 2020 4:35 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    They will keep pushing until some pencil neck bureaucrat gets shot.

    why go to jail for a mere bureaucrat? If you’re going to do the time, make it worth it.


  91. Possum
    93 | April 20, 2020 4:58 pm

    Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:

    Possum wrote:

    2. Dump oil in a secluded spot in countryside

    They will put you under the penitentiary, because you WON’T be able to pay the fine

    Three meals a day, a bed, free health care. A perfect way to spend the rest of my life.

    🙂


  92. Possum
    94 | April 20, 2020 5:00 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    I am enjoying my clean-out-the-fridge veggie cream soup made with my own chicken stock; my rosemary bread; and a lovely tomato, cuke, watermelon & mint salad w/avocado oil & mango vinegar dressing

    Then I’m taking a nap

    I looked in my fridge, there is some strange things growing on the bottom shelf all the way at the back.

    Googling Fort Detrick telephone number. I may need professional help……


  93. rain of lead
    96 | April 20, 2020 6:41 pm

    key

    Monday’s announcements came as states were feeling the pressure to roll back social-distancing measures and reopen an economy decimated by forced business closures and layoffs.

    Dozens of protests have sprouted up in front of state capitols and governors’ mansions across the country with participants calling for an end to tough restrictions.


  94. lobo91
    97 | April 20, 2020 7:53 pm

    AOC Deletes Tweet Cheering Collapse of Domestic Oil Production

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.) deleted a tweet Monday celebrating a collapse in short-term crude oil prices as an opportunity to push for the Green New Deal.

    “You absolutely love to see it. This along with record low interest rates means it’s the right time for a worker-led, mass investment in green infrastructure to save our planet. *cough*,” Ocasio-Cortez wrote in a tweet recorded by political commentator Stephen L. Miller. She linked to a tweet reporting on the price of American crude, which plummeted as the coronavirus pandemic has obliterated demand.


  95. eaglesoars
    98 | April 20, 2020 8:31 pm

    @ lobo91:

    “econ major”


  96. AZfederalist
    99 | April 20, 2020 9:37 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    A growing number of Communist Party cadres have been caught in President Xi Jinping’s anti-corruption campaign, which critics say has also served as a way to remove the leader’s political enemies.

    “also served as a way to remove dear leader’s political enemies”? Really? More like, “is being used by dear leader to remove his political enemies”.

    All of China is corrupt, the corruption only matters if you offend dear leader


  97. AZfederalist
    100 | April 20, 2020 9:40 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Anti-quarantine protests being organized through Facebook in California, New Jersey, and Nebraska, are being removed from the platform on the instruction of governments in those three states because it violates stay-at-home orders, Facebook spokesperson

    OK, one can make the argument that Fakebook is a private entity (it’s not, it’s a publicly traded corporation, making it subject to various regulations) but ‘acting on the instruction of governments in those three states’ goes beyond that right into pure fascism — the real kind.


  98. AZfederalist
    101 | April 20, 2020 9:42 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    The health department even issued a script to warn customers to flee, saying, “You are violating our Governor’s and Valley County’s Health Officer’s orders. I am happy to shop for you with curbside delivery. I will get the items for you and bring them to your car. If you don’t cooperate, you will force me to call law enforcement.”

    May as well add an assault charge while your at it.


  99. AZfederalist
    102 | April 20, 2020 9:42 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:

    The health department even issued a script to warn customers to flee, saying, “You are violating our Governor’s and Valley County’s Health Officer’s orders. I am happy to shop for you with curbside delivery. I will get the items for you and bring them to your car. If you don’t cooperate, you will force me to call law enforcement.”

    May as well add an assault charge while your you’re at it.


  100. eaglesoars
    103 | April 20, 2020 9:52 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    May as well add an assault charge while your at it.

    someone said the local council just disowned the flyer, not the policy.

    That should be a fun enforcement effort, if that’s true.


  101. eaglesoars
    104 | April 20, 2020 10:05 pm

    uh oh

    BREAKING: North Korean Dictator Kim Jong Un In ‘Grave Danger’ After Surgery, Report Says

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-north-korean-dictator-kim-jong-un-in-grave-danger-after-surgery-report-says?%3Futm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwtwitter

    had heart surgery on the 15th, this was released today. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out he’s dead and this is just prepping the population for the bad news.


  102. lobo91
    105 | April 20, 2020 10:09 pm

    Speaking of things that should be disowned:


  103. eaglesoars
    106 | April 20, 2020 10:12 pm

    YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki says anything that goes against the W.H.O. is a violation of YouTube policies. All content that isn’t “medically substantiated,” such as advising people take Vitamin C, will be removed by the platform.

    https://twitter.com/QAnonNotables/status/1252385906486468610

    Her sister Anne, is the founder of the genetic analysis company 23-and ME, which sends all the samples to China for analysis.


  104. eaglesoars
    107 | April 20, 2020 10:18 pm

    10 minutes ago. I checked POTUS TL, this is real

    In light of the attack from the Invisible Enemy, as well as the need to protect the jobs of our GREAT American Citizens, I will be signing an Executive Order to temporarily suspend immigration into the United States!

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1252418369170501639


  105. AZfederalist
    108 | April 20, 2020 10:25 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    “econ major”

    Yeah, that was my thought. Let’s see, really low oil prices = really low energy prices = time to invest in really expensive but unreliable solar and wind generation. Yep, PhD economics level right there.

    What is natural gas doing? Seems like that demand is going to stay close to the same except some seasonal adjustment.


  106. AZfederalist
    109 | April 20, 2020 10:27 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    had heart surgery on the 15th, this was released today. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out he’s dead and this is just prepping the population for the bad news.

    Who’s in the bullpen?


  107. eaglesoars
    110 | April 20, 2020 10:30 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:

    had heart surgery on the 15th, this was released today. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out he’s dead and this is just prepping the population for the bad news.

    Who’s in the bullpen?

    He has a brother who has stayed out of the picture, but his younger sister has been part of the gov’t for awhile. I don’t know how the NORKS would feel being led by a woman given their military culture.


  108. eaglesoars
    111 | April 20, 2020 10:33 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    Seems like that demand is going to stay close to the same except some seasonal adjustment.

    Well, not with a lot of closed restaurants. They ALL use gas for their stoves. However, more people cooking at home may offset some of that.


  109. eaglesoars
    112 | April 20, 2020 10:44 pm

    When one has dogs for any length of time, it’s not uncommon to leave unused treats in various pockets. It is very unfortunate to not remember which pockets, because when you load one of them up with M&Ms, what you just put in your mouth may not melt in your mouth either.

    I’m out. Have a lovely evening.


  110. Aussie Infidel
    113 | April 20, 2020 11:37 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    @ eaglesoars:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/ive-never-encountered-anything-china
    -stock-index-suffers-record-crash-and-nobody-knows-why
    An interesting article, thanks for circulating.

    I am far from an expert, (a novice would be a flattering description)
    in all of the intricacies of electronic derivative trading. However I
    have some sympathy with the view expressed in the last line of the
    article.

    ….. “This would be a great way to test the extent of market disruption by
    slipping an algorithm into a market sample of an isolated index
    calculation and measure the damage.” ……

    If there is deliberate malice behind the current situation, the
    resilience being demonstrated across western share markets could well be
    disconcerting.

    Rolling out confusing algorithms on a broader front may well be the
    next wave of undermining capitalism. Especially at a time when
    uncertainty in markets prevails. Another in the arsenal of “Magic
    Weapons”, perhaps.

    Index traders are going to need to be extra vigilant and further
    reduce reliance on computer trades. (Additional controls on systems
    were implemented following the GFC, however whether they were
    stringent enough to tackle deliberate tinkering, who knows??? Also the
    GFC, (and the reasoning behind some of the controls introduced) is
    outside of the experience of many of the newer generation of traders.)

    It is very much watch this space.

    Alternatively we can just “blame Soros or a corrupt cabal of Chinese investors – or both”.

    Any thoughts Cold?

    HEH

    🙂


  111. Aussie Infidel
    114 | April 20, 2020 11:43 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    uh oh

    BREAKING: North Korean Dictator Kim Jong Un In ‘Grave Danger’ After Surgery, Report Says

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-north-korean-dictator-kim-jong-un-in-grave-danger-after-surgery-report-says?%3Futm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwtwitter

    had heart surgery on the 15th, this was released today. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out he’s dead and this is just prepping the population for the bad news.

    Nah

    Un got a peek where he was headed and tried to climb off the theatre table!

    🙂

    The cardiac surgeon operating couldn’t find Un’s heart so he just sewed him up and hoped that nobody noticed otherwise the surgeon might get the bullet for shoddy stitching.

    🙂


  112. rain of lead
    115 | April 21, 2020 5:33 am

    morning y’all
    lotta great news today


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