When will this end?
Day 38 of the Great American Lockdown
by coldwarrior ( 149 Comments › )Filed under Open thread, Uncategorized at April 21st, 2020 - 7:00 am
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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
Joe Biden told KDKA would not shut down fracking.
There won’t be much fracking for a while anyway, but I think our Leftists should know this.
“No, I would not shut down this industry. I know our Republican friends are trying to say I said that. I said I would not do any new leases on federal lands. Ninety percent of the leases are not on federal land, to begin with. I would make sure … the water is not being contaminated. But I would not shut it down, no.”
https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/04/20/joe-biden-talks-fracking-coronavirus-and-president-donald-trump/
There are also pro-Biden campaign ads attacking Trump for not being hard enough on China.
I think it’s safe to assume the Biden folks are counting on either never having to debate Trump or having tightly controlled “virtual” debates, which will be over-the-top rigged in his favor.
Good morning, everyone.
West Texas Intermediate crude oil at -$4,00 per barrel is a deflationary spiral Indication.
Econ Major has come up with another econ idea to address the nat’l debt.
Raise taxes.
Whatever would we do w/o her.
Note from Hong Kong
A FRIEND ON FACEBOOK OBSERVES: “If you’ve been paying attention — and almost no one has — Hong Kong was strangled over the past several days, as the Communist apparatus rolled up much of the protest leadership, and asserted its right to rule in any fashion it wishes. ‘One country, two systems’ is dead. The city itself will now likely go into decline: ordinarily with Shenzhen taking over its role in commerce, but who can say now? Another light goes out. The Communist Party of China is tying up loose ends and, to borrow a phrase, taking care of all family business. This isn’t the main event. This is preparatory to that. The main event is coming — and it is hastened by a Zhongnanhai calculation that the United States possesses neither the attention span nor the competence to do something about it. You can pick your metaphor: August 1914, December 1941. Just be aware that what they’re contemplating will end up a metaphor all its own.”
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/367308/
@ eaglesoars:
I’m not willing to go to war over a former brit colony.
Not my problem
@ eaglesoars:
@ coldwarrior:
anyone who didnt think that this was going to happen after the brits signed over hong kong in ’99 is a idiot, or worse.
coldwarrior wrote:
me neither. I don’t think anybody is. On the other hand, the case could be made that we’re at some stage of war already, just not kinetic.
I think walmart is having serious supply chain issues where other stores don’t seem to be.
The dumbest mayor ever.
De Blasio’s social distancing tip line flooded with penis photos, Hitler memes
https://nypost.com/2020/04/21/de-blasios-social-distancing-tip-line-flooded-with-obscenities/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons
Related:
Mayor Super-Spreader: The Moment We Reopen New York City, We’re Going to Have a Huge Nuts-to-Butts Ticker Tape Parade for Our Health Workers So That We Start the Second Wave of Infections With a Bang
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=386914
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
It’s time to build herd immunity.
Or cower in a corner with gloves and a mask, thinking this disease will bypass you.
I, refuse to live in that corner, cowering from COVID-19. Either it will kill me or it won’t. But, I will not live cowering from it.
We have to find a way to rebel against the new norms that the media has put in place for us.
@ Calo:
I’m in the camp that believes many, many people have already been exposed to this virus.
I don’t know what the holdup is on mass antibody testing. Might be some good reasons, but it seems to me that would fo a long way in alleviating our Great National Panic.
Calo wrote:
That’s Sweden’s take on it. Don’t know how it’s working. And if there are a lot of asymptomatic people with the antibodies, there’s already quite a bit out there.
@ eaglesoars:
I wanted to get a dozen people together and have everyone flipping the bird.
@ right_wing2:
Preferably while holding guns.
Calo wrote:
yep.
I stumbled on this. I guess Springer is a textbook publisher, I don’t know. Anyhoo, they’re offering free textbooks for download. Most are quantum physics, which we all have probably worked our way thru, but at the very bottom there’s one on Fundamental Astronomy which I thought CW – or anybody – might find useful
https://link.springer.com/search?facet-content-type=%22Book%22&facet-discipline=%22Physics%22&package=mat-covid19_textbooks&facet-language=%22En%22&sortOrder=newestFirst&showAll=true
@ eaglesoars:
😆
that will go nicely with the new ‘observatory’ i am building this week in the side yard.
16×16 deck just for astronomical purposes…and so i dont have to mow that patch.
@ coldwarrior:
Excellent!
Mnuchin said Hahvahd has to give back the money they took from the Coronavirus aid pkg.
heh heh heh
coldwarrior wrote:
The Brits were NOT stupid over Hong Kong. My favourite Brit was the CO of JSIS (Joint Services Inteligence & Security) at the time. Mike opined that the HK ‘arrangement might last a generation at the most. Actually Hong Kong island was NOT part of the deal. Only Kowloon Side and the New Territories were handed back to Chinese control. The Realpolik however showed that HK island was not viable as a stand alone ‘colony’ surrounded by China and 100% dependant for power on the power station down the mainland coast and 80% on its access to water on the under harbour water main.
When push came to shove the Chinese were seriously shocked by the Brits when they said HK island was rolled into the deal. Mike didn’t believe that a CCP move into HK would even last much past 2010. Most of the ‘old retainers’ from HK bureaucracy were given British permanent residence status and the rest were effectively thrown under the bus as a bridge too far.
@ eaglesoars:
Didn’t see anything on fundamentals of astronomy. What did I miss?
eaglesoars wrote:
Thanks Eagles.
🙂
eaglesoars wrote:
Alas Eagles there is no definitive research on how long immunity lasts, especially with Asymptomatic cases. True herd immunity may be just a pipe dream in this case even if mutations are not counted. The Swedes are the canary in the coal mine on this one!
coldwarrior wrote:
Nobody is mate. The only good thing to come out of the HK scenario is that the actions of the pro-CCP administration in HK put paid to the ‘lets all hold hands and just get along’ faction of the Taiwanese polity who wanted to get close to China. That suggestion is now a dead duck. Same same for S Korea and Japanese businesses who wanted to cash in on Chinese business by turning a blind eye to CCP atrocities.
That’s all gone as well
………. and some language might matter more than others.
Kevin Slaten on Twitter: “Collating tweets, I’ve found an alarming increase in the use of a genocidal phrase on Twitter by Chinese ultranationalists toward Taiwan, especially in 2020. (Note: this is an English version of a Chinese thread I recently published.) [1] https://t.co/fp8MSFY3Al” / Twitter
https://twitter.com/KevinSlaten/status/1250822442303533059
Vatican lauds China,
snubs Taiwan
DIPLOMACY
TESS LIVINGSTONE
In a blatantly undiplomatic move, the Vatican has lauded China and snubbed Taiwan after both countries made generous donations of medical and other supplies to Italy and to the Holy See to help with the pandemic.
From mid-March , as Italy’s caseload began to soar, China sent doctors and medical equipment to Italy, and Chinese charities, including the Red Cross, donated health supplies to the Vatican pharmacy.
The Vatican responded with a statement on April 9: “The Holy See appreciates the
generous gesture and expresses gratitude to the bishops, Catholic faithful, institutions and all other Chinese citizens for this humanitarian initiative, assuring them of the esteem and prayers of the Holy Father.”
On April 14, the Taiwanese embassy to the Holy See donated 280,000 medical masks to the Vatican pharmacy, to three Roman hospitals and to Italian religious communities caring for the sick. The Vatican made no public response. Taiwan has also donated 600 cans of tuna for residents of a shelter for homeless people run by one of the Pope’s charities, a gift received and welcomed by the Polish cardinal who leads the charities, Konrad Krajewski.
Vatican-based US cardinal Raymond Burke told The Australian “something is badly wrong’’ with China seemingly enjoying “a place of privilege with the Vatican’’ .
“The agreement which the Vatican made with the People’s Republic of China in 2018 — of which there is still no public record — has been, in practice, a repudiation of the tremendous suffering of countless Chinese confessors of the faith and martyrs for the faith at the hands of the atheistic communist government and has only resulted in a greater ongoing persecution of faithful Chinese Catholics.’’
As of Tuesday, the Vatican had reported nine cases of coronavirus. But church hospitals and medical staff are heavily involved in caring for tens of thousands of COVID-19 patients across Italy, which has recorded more than 180,000 cases and suffered 23,300 deaths.
Know your enemy still holds true, even it involves the latest iteration of the denizens of the Vatican.
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
Given that Ol’ Slow Joe doesn’t remember what state he is in half the time, and given that democrats lie, especially to get elected, I wouldn’t put much stock in that statement. At. all.
coldwarrior wrote:
Hong Kong is not the main event. Taiwan is next. That is the next question of how much is the US willing to let happen.
AZfederalist wrote:
That’s why Trump is, sometime along the line, going to recognize the place.
right_wing2 wrote:
It’s at the end of the list. Here’s the link to the book
https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-662-53045-0
Aussie Infidel wrote:
ESPECIALLY if…that place has finally been openly turned by the commies. They certainly can play the long game
Aussie Infidel wrote:
I don’t see any English. What’s the phrase?
Well, it appears the Gates Foundation, WHO, and the Wuhan Virology lab have all been hacked and all sorts of things – like passwords and documents – are flying around the interwebs.
*snort*
twitter is taking down the tweets w/links as fast as they can. Good luck!
eaglesoars wrote:
Twitter and Fakebook have both shown whose side they are on. … and it ain’t the US
I subscribe to email from this guy, Peter Zeihan, who sometimes has interesting stuff to say about global issues. Here is his rundown today about oil
Numbers are fuzzy in this corner of global oil markets. In part because everyone classifies and categories their oil storage capacity differently. In part because they should (gasoline storage is functionally different from raw oil storage). In part because some countries don’t share data because they’re lazy or secretive. But no one thinks there’s a whole lot of storage capacity left. Global oversupply of crude right now is over 20mpbd (with 30mbpd seeming to be the “average” guestimate). Most folks in the know are now musing that what storage remains will be filled up completely sometime in May or early-June.
And filled up it will be, because that is the express goal of the world’s largest oil exporter, Saudi Arabia. The Saudi price war started out as a spat with the Russians over carrying the burden of a production cut. It has since expanded into the Saudis targeting the end markets of every single one of what the Saudis’ consider to be inefficient producers. The Saudis are directly targeting markets previously serviced not just by US shale and Russian, but those serviced by Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan and Libya and Iraq and Iran and Malaysia and Indonesia and Mexico and Norway and the United Kingdom and Nigeria and Chad and you get the idea.
As of this morning, there are still at least 24 supertankers carrying at least 50 million barrels of Saudi crude en route to the U.S. Gulf Coast. Most will arrive in May, seeking to fill up as much of what remains of U.S. storage as possible. Similar volumes are in route to Europe and even bigger volumes to Northeast Asia. In most cases the destinations are the transshipment nodes that enable distribution of inland-produced oil to coastal locations: Rotterdam, Suez, Singapore, Korea.
Assuming you’ve got deep pockets, and Saudi Arabia’s are some of the world’s deepest, it isn’t a stupid strategy. If the Saudis can push prices firmly negative, it will absolutely crush many of the world’s energy producers. My back-of-envelope math suggest some 20 million barrels per day of production capacity – one-fifth of global output – will go offline for years. And then Riyadh will have what it wants: the ability to raise prices as much as it wants and to reign supreme over the world of oil for at least several years. (There are still a veritable swarm of flies that will need to be dealt with in that particular ointment, but the Saudi plan seems sure of generating plenty of ointment nonetheless.)
I’m out, nite.
umm, there appears to be a problem brewing between S. Africa and Nigeria, not sure what it is but CHINA.
ok, gone…….
coldwarrior wrote:
I assume that your deck floats in rubber tubes to damp down the vibration of you clomping about getting your tequila and cigars!
Nice touch with not having to mow that bit of the garden though. You know of course that you could have concreted it and painted it green!
🙂
https://twitter.com/parscale/status/1252369647338319878
Nancy has ice cream!
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/attention-physicians-dr-cameron-kyle-sidell-needs-your-help/
loves me some talking heads.
lol
coldwarrior wrote:
Isn’t this the same idea we talked about like 2 weeks ago? I think Medium first printed it, then took it down because the writer isn’t a physician, he was some sort of crypto-currency guy.
Maybe they’ve got the timeline wrong after all
The first coroanvirus death in the United States was three weeks earlier than originally believed, new autopsy results show.
Santa Clara Medical Examiner-Coroner says it has identified three individuals who died with COVID-19, including one victim who passed away on February 6.
Washington’s first deaths were then reported on February 29 after two people – one who was a resident at a nursing home – died in the same Seattle hospital.
The new development also means the first fatality in Santa Clara, which had been recorded as Azar Ahrabi, 68, on March 9, was in fact more than a month earlier.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8243881/First-coroanvirus-death-U-S-THREE-weeks-earlier-thought-not-Washington-state.html
eaglesoars wrote:
essentially…yes.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
getting the cement to the site would be problematic and expensive. that part of the hillside is flat, lots of fill. if there is some more settling, the cement would crack and fall apart in the harsh conditions. the deck will be on block and if there is settling, i can get a car jack under it and re-level.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2020/4/21/21230372/would-you-volunteer-infected-covid-19-develop-vaccine-bill-foster-donna-shalala
@ Chicago Sun Times
Group of Dem Reps want young people to volunteer to act as lab rats and be infected by the virus.
Rep Foster who used to be my congressman was a scientist at Fermi Labs. He came to my door while campaigning.
He struck me as arrogant and annoying.
Trump, 25 mins ago
I have instructed the United States Navy to shoot down and destroy any and all Iranian gunboats if they harass our ships at sea.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1252932181447630848
@ eaglesoars:
Should have happened years ago
Guess where our baby-killing governor who thinks he’s keeping us in lockdown until June is? Go ahead, guess.
He’s at his beach house in North Carolina
In the event you’re hearing stories about hydroxochloroquine not working vis a vis Veterans Affairs – lies. Let’s go to the video tape
Veterans Affairs’ Robert Wilkie on yesterday’s hydroxychloroquine study: “That’s an observational study. It’s not a clinical study … We know the drug has been working on middle-age and younger veterans. And the gov of NY was just in the Oval Office yesterday asking for more“
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1252964789816643584
It sounds like we’re still going to have quite a few foreign IT workers coming coming in despite the immigration pause.
I’ve had a number of people now try and sell me the idea that we’re doing this to maintain a sort of “brain drain” on China.
Anyone have any thoughts?
I’d also like to apologize for the numerous typos in my comments.
The wife is working from home and my unemployed ass has been relegated to my phone
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
More like the companies that are already using them want to keep them. Visas expire and aren’t automatically renewed, but especially in IT, talk about cheap(er) labor. And it’s not like all of them are from China. Trump doesn’t need to piss of India for no good reason.
As for maintaining a ‘brain drain’ in China – China is not a free country, if it wanted its people home, they’d be told to get on the plane that will be landing in 6 hrs. But bringing them home adds to a demographic problem they’ve been trying to solve by exporting the excess for years.
Bottom line, I think this is about maintaining institutional knowledge in American operations more than anything else.
@ eaglesoars:
Makes sense. I couldn’t find the numbers by nationality anywhere.
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/17/key-findings-about-u-s-immigrants/
went and checked the mail
fundraising letter from a local hospital
damn
@ eaglesoars:
Thanks.
rush is all over the shortage of reg patients in hospitals
cw called this a month ago but now it’s a thing
your ball nancy
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/21/coronavirus-senate-passes-484-billion-small-business-relief-bill.html
rain of lead wrote:
its easier for the govt bureaucrat to deal with a few large hospital systems than all of these free thinking little and mid-sized systems.
this will kill the rural and small hospitls, just like obama care wants
Here’s a report on the apparent hacking of WHO, Gates and Wuhan…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/04/21/nearly-25000-email-addresses-passwords-allegedly-nih-who-gates-foundation-are-dumped-online/
Reopening is going to be fought tooth and nail, apparently.
What the hell is wrong with people? Zoom has been proven to have lost over 500,000 customers personal info, “accidentally” given info and rerouted data to china, refused to secure their routers and provide end to end encryption. Yet, my kids school district is demanding my children jeopardize their info by creating zoom accounts, my nephews doctor insists my SIL and my Brother have a Zoom meeting to get their kids meds, and everyone just gleefully keeps insisting everyone has to use this security disaster.
I contacted one of my kids teachers today and told her exactly what she could do with Zoom. She read my explanation and provided an alternate homework option BUT still won’t stop using the crap software.
@ Deplorable Martian Overlord:
what happened to Skype?
eaglesoars wrote:
Skype isn’t as insecure, therefore it is not in favor with the powers that be.
@ AZfederalist:
well…silly me.
So a reporter asked about someone named Rick Bright, supposedly fired from the Biological Advanced Research and Development Authority for his opposition to Panaquil. Trump said he never heard of the guy.
Here’s the rest of the story. Bright wasn’t fired, he transferred to NIH, a move that was in the works for more than a year
https://twitter.com/AngieNC3/status/1253095589677588480
eaglesoars wrote:
Also, leftists are addicted to fads. Zoom is a fad. Quick and easy to use (of course it is, it isn’t secure in any way.)
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
Difficult in ensuring that you are picking up Wuhan Covid 19 flu anti-bodies and not one of the seven or so previous flu anti-bodies with similar anti-body signatures, I think
Not insurmountable but they need to make sure that the test is not being foxed by the viruses.
@ eaglesoars:
ABC News is running a story in this half hour claiming that he was fired
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
Unsure what you want to know mate. What do you mean by ..” maintain a brain drain on China”?
There are low level and medium level IT workers mostly from India who work for less than American IT workers already in jobs. To add insult to injury a lot of US programmers have to train their replacements before they are retrenched. THAT type of thing HAS to stop. High level expert code cutters aside in some circumstances can still be sources externally but first US unemployed programmers get first ‘dibs’ at the jobs.
Temporary farm and horticulture workers on short term contracts are fine to enter as long as they leave on time. Labour costs may rise but the down channel knock on effects of increased spending power easily nixes that after a couple of currency (M3 ?) velocity capculations.
lobo91 wrote:
It’s based on this NYT story which is total bullshit.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/us/coronavirus-live-coverage.html?
Excerpts:
Dr. Rick Bright was abruptly dismissed this week as the director of the Department of Health and Human Services’ Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, or BARDA, and as the deputy assistant secretary for preparedness and response.
Instead, he was given a narrower job at the National Institutes of Health. “I believe this transfer was in response to my insistence that the government invest the billions of dollars allocated by Congress to address the Covid-19 pandemic into safe and scientifically vetted solutions, and not in drugs, vaccines and other technologies that lack scientific merit,” he said in a statement to The New York Times’s Maggie Haberman.
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“Specifically, and contrary to misguided directives, I limited the broad use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, promoted by the administration as a panacea, but which clearly lack scientific merit,” he said.
“While I am prepared to look at all options and to think ‘outside the box’ for effective treatments, I rightly resisted efforts to provide an unproven drug on demand to the American public,” Dr. Bright said, describing what ultimately happened. “I insisted that these drugs be provided only to hospitalized patients with confirmed Covid-19 while under the supervision of a physician. [nobody was calling for ‘on demand’ anything, nobody was calling for use in unconfirmed cases, nobody was calling for availability outside a doc’s script. Every point is a strawman argument]
Dr. Bright has hired the lawyers Debra Katz and Lisa Banks, who have a whistle-blower practice and are known in part for representing Christine Blasey Ford, who, during the nomination process of Justice Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, accused him of engaging in sexual misconduct decades earlier, a claim he denied.
lobo91 wrote:
More fake news from the ABC ( Another Bloody Canard) network.
The responsible news hound should get fired but he’ll probably get a raise instead for planting a fake story and having it up for a whole 30 minutes before it was forced off the web.
rain of lead wrote:
Half empty regular hospital wards as all but crucial surgeries are on hold. Private hospitals open up next week for routine surgeries here in NZ from midnight Monday when we move from Level #4 lockdown to Level #3. I am due to have surgery on my ear myself at 0800 Wednesday. No big deal. Just a MOHRs op on a very slow growing skin cancer on the top of my left ear. Interesting technique. Local and they take successive shavings off the affecter area and do immediate lab test and reporting between shavings until they can’t see any more cancer cells on the slide. Some plastic surgery if necessary and you’re out the door.
🙂
eaglesoars wrote:
SKYPE is still a good medium but it’s restricted to the number of folks who can join the discussion group. There are LOTS of alternatives to Zoom. Most have end to end encryption whereas Zoom requires those with front end encryption to give Zoom their keys before Zoom encrypts the back end IN CHINA. Currently the US Armed Forces still allow Zoom for unclassified comms but are talking about banning Zoom outright.
Alternatives like WEB EX from CISCO or Microsoft’s Teams work just as well as Zoom but don’t have security gaps that can be easily used by the Chinese Cyber warfare guys in Building 101 in Shanghai.
Why make it easy for these bastards?
Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:
see my comment above mate
🙂
Aussie Infidel wrote:
ah.
Great news in Houston! ( Harris County ) that nasty Chinese virus is gone for a few days. We were never ordered to wear masks in public and many don’t and our “curve” is squished flat..
Bad news for Houston the Chinese virus is going to attack us Monday 27th and we all have to wear masks wherever we go for the next 30 days!
So, why the five day delay in ORDERING us to mask up?
How many deaths will be caused because of this five day delay?
If masks are now vital it should be implemented IMMEDIATELY!
lobo91 wrote:
Wow, that should get a few of his former voters pi$$ed off
@ AZfederalist:
You would think so…
eaglesoars wrote:
Living off the land here. Low tide so we walked down to the rocks at the North End of the beach and got 4 dozen oysters. Yummm. Juicy and VERY fresh! Straight off the rocks Mrs. AI currently shucking them. Oyster patties and collard greens from the garden fried in butter plus cherry tomatoes and lettuce from the garden for dinner.
Next door neighbour caught a 7 pound Snapper from the beach last night on dusk. It was full of crabs. The crabs are running and the snapper are feasting VERY close in in just 1 1/2 foot of water.
🙂
Screw it. Grabbed a lemon hanging over the fence and had my 2 dozen oysters fresh with just a squeeze of lemon
MMMMmm
Aussie Infidel wrote:
Last dinner. Poor thing.
You can keep the oysters, tho. There are few things I won’t eat, oysters is one. Liver is another. Or any organ meat for that matter.
The Left is losing the hydroxochloroquine narrative.
I have to go to bed. I kept Mia home for a ‘training day’. She was very good, but that little puppy wore me out.
nite.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
School teachers don’t care about the technical end. They care about the pretty backgrounds and fun fad crap. That’s the only reason they’re using it. Yeah, the large class groups help but I’m in MT, the class sizes aren’t that big.
eaglesoars wrote:
You obviously have never tasted ‘Devilled sheep’s kidneys and bacon with their own gravy on home made 7 grain and seed bread.
The food of angels!
🙂
Possum wrote:
Great news.
Looking like we have our boot on the virus’ throat here. Had an extra week added to the Level #4 lockdown. Looks like they will go down to Level #3 next monday. Some businesses opening. Surfing Fishing and gyms are opening. Some schools going back but the government asked whether those who can keep their kids being home schooled to do that so that they can spread out those students that have to go to school, to keep distancing.
Stats look good.too:-
Total of1500 infected with 1000 recovered 14 dead and currently about 20 in hospital with 2 in ICU and 20 hot spots in the country. Only 2 reported new infection yesterday. Damn government waited an extra week before going to level #4 and during that time a lot of folks came back on airplanes.It took a week to track and trace them and slap them in quarantine for 2 weeks.
The Aussies are likewise almost Corona free. Once both Oz and NZ are Corona free the border control will come down and there will be a shared ‘bubble’ spanning both countries. When that happens international air travel between Oz and NZ will open. Anyone from outside Australasia will have to go into enforced quarantine before they can begin their holidays. The travel industry in both countries is gagging to get the industry up and running.
BY the end of May NZ should have everything back to normal with No Corvid 19 in country. In the meantime we are being careful to restart industry with suitable protection to ensure that there is no second outbreak.
Schools have just been set up so that EVERYONE has a computer and software to take all lessons at home. Thousands of PCs have been issued to those with no computers in their homes. Just as we are settling down to getting used to on-line learning … the schools are going back!
Restaurants are kinda back but you have to take food to go and use touches pay way for the transaction. Delivery services are springing up all over to service the food and other on-line purchase and delivery industry.delivery
Oh and sanity has finally prevailed. Golf courses are opening Monday as well.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/04/23/coronavirus-trump-touts-state-protests-but-organizers-focus-economy/2997437001/
@ USA Today
You might think that these protests to end the virtual house arrests and end job destruction are grass roots.
Well think again. USA Today sees a sinster plot involving the Bad Orange Man.
Hey, they are a tip top periodical. That’s why hotels give the away for FREE!
Aussie Infidel wrote:
Fairfax County, which is something like the 2nd or 3rd wealthiest zip code in the country, is still trying to find its ass with both hands. Every other school district, private and parochial, is up and running teaching kids at home.
But not FC Schools. They have a remote-learning system called Blackboard, which apparently they never tested, that they can’t get to work. So all the Fairfax County kids are offline.
They just fired the Chief Tech Officer, some woman who has had the job for 21 yrs.
Just when you think she can’t get any dumber…
Well, it’s 40 days by CW’s count .
That’s a “quarantine” worth, right?
This is the headline:
NIH panel recommends against use of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin to treat coronavirus
This is the body of the story:
The panel went on to say there was insufficient clinical data to recommend either for or against the use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine alone. The drugs have been used to treat malaria and, more recently, lupus and arthritis.
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The panel concluded there was insufficient evidence to recommend any kind of treatment to prevent coronavirus infection, or to stop the progress of symptoms in those who were infectious, as there is not enough data for or against the vast majority of medicines.
https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/493995-nih-panel-recommends-against-use-of
And it’s not just the Hill. CNN, Forbes, NPR, et. al., all have the same headline.
@ eaglesoars:
There will be data later.
MDs have yuge range and rights to prescribe off label.
This is far from over
@ coldwarrior:
How are you?
@ RIX:
Down 15 pounds from the sore throat from nasal intubation.
Didn’t need any motrin this AM!!! Progress!!
Chemo/rads start next week.
lobo91 wrote:
She is the thought leader of the Democrat Party and she is a borderline imbecile.
@ eaglesoars:
Imagine if this med regimen cured AIDS
coldwarrior wrote:
Imagine if it cured erectile dysfunction
@ eaglesoars:
Goldmine!!!!
@ RIX:
And how is mrs rix?
https://www.air.tv/?v=nBBu5vklRqaOjrDngB_KZA
@ WZ
Does anybody including Joe Biden know what Biden is talking about.
RIX wrote:
Won’t open
coldwarrior wrote:
Depends on the day. Yesterday was bad. Hoping for a better day today.
coldwarrior wrote:
Hang in there. You will soldier through it.
@ coldwarrior:
Great to hear you are hanging in there
@ RIX:
Sorry to hear that Rix. Here’s to a better day.
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
Thanks BUMR. We are staying positive.
@ lobo91:
She’ll only be happy when there’s a $20 an hour minimum wage, six weeks paid vacation, two years paid time after the birth or adoption of a child, free healthcare, free college, and God only knows what else.
@ RIX:
Oh man.
My Carolina Reapers have sprouted.
👿
@ right_wing2:
No. She’ll never be happy. Her entire bag is agitation.
If that were to all happen, there would then be other things.
https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-threatens-more-plagues-on-nation-unless-state-governors-let-his-people-go?utm_content=bufferfb3e4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
So let it be written, so let it be done!
@ coldwarrior:
whatsa Carolina Reaper?
Well, looks like we had another impressive data breach that no one knew about. 267 million facebook credentials are up for sale on the dark web. Login ID’s, phone numbers, birthdates. No passwords that they can see though, they think they were better protected and weren’t able to be grabbed. Seems if the passwords were able to be protected then the other data could be too.
Nintendo also got hit this week, no one is admitting how it happened but hundreds of thousands of nintendo accounts got illegally accessed, including mine. That usually means the logins and passwords are out in the wild.
@ eaglesoars:
1 to 1.5 million scoville unit peppers.
I have to use gloves and a respirator when processing them outside.
Brutal.
coldwarrior wrote:
ah. You have enemies.
@ eaglesoars:
It makes a very interesting hot sauce.
https://babylonbee.com/news/nation-totally-in-favor-of-ocasio-cortez-not-going-back-to-work
@ Deplorable Martian Overlord:
I think she is fantastic.
Shes worth millions in campaign donations for Trump
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/canada-mass-shooter-broke-gun-control-laws-so-its-time-to-enact-more-of-them/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=buffer&utm_term=ttagfeed&utm_campaign=ttagfeed
@ Deplorable Martian Overlord:
@ coldwarrior:
AOC did not get into Boston U on a minority set aside , right? She so totally got in on merit./
@ RIX:
Totally on merit.
Mmmmmhmmm
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86094?xid=nl_popmed_2020-04-23&eun=g790546d0r&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=PopMedicineWinner_042320&utm_content=Final&utm_term=NL_Gen_Int_PopMedicine_Active
@ Deplorable Martian Overlord:
Sounds about right from our leftist tyrants. Masses of illegal guns on the streets? More restrictions on legal owners. Mind you, they did simplify restricted rules about transporting to ranges. All you need is to purchase a restricted weapon and you are given a blanket ATT (Authorization to Transport). After that you just need to find a range that’s accepting members.
coldwarrior wrote:
from the article
You might say that garlic can boost the immune system
what does ‘boost the immune system’ mean? What happens to all those little T cells and cytokines that ‘boosts’ them? Your body makes more of them?
RIX wrote:
Borderline? OK, I guess she can dress herself so you are probably right
Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:
Dang people are stupid. … and they elect the morons who want to do this. Seriously getting to the point where armed insurrection is going to be needed.
Trump’s pressers are great
REPORTER: “Can I ask you a question?”
TRUMP: “No. That’s enough.”
REPORTER: “But that wasn’t my question…”
TRUMP: “The problem is you don’t write the truth.”
REPORTER: “Can I ask you a question about…”
TRUMP: “CNN is fake news. Don’t talk to me.”
eaglesoars wrote:
Or baldness!
🙂
If anyone’s interested, Tedeschi Trucks Band is doing a free livestream show right now: https://www.facebook.com/DerekAndSusan/videos/1276383079419064/
It’s a special extended edition of the concert that became the “Live From the Fox Oakland” album. Apparently never been shown before
@ lobo91:
even better, look at the geographic cluster.
mass transit and population density. Cuomo never shut down mass transit.
@ eaglesoars:
Yup
eaglesoars wrote:
THAT fact right there DEMANDS a RECALL at worst and legal malfeasance charges being laid at best
The whole Cuomo family as demonstrated by Cuomo and his lying self promoting egotist brother shows their true natures for duplicity and elitist malfeasance abetted by the MSM and in particular CNN
@ Aussie Infidel:
He didn’t not just shut it down. He made it worse by cutting the number of cars that ran, jamming more people into a smaller space. THEN he put the sick elderly in …. nursing homes. Where they got zero care because those people are not trained.
He did everything wrong. You don’t have to be a genius to understand the basics of infectious diseases and we suspected early on this one is highly contagious.
AZfederalist wrote:
We had a shooting here in NZ two days ago. An Indian originally from the Fijian Islands, living in South Auckland for the past 30 years since the first Fiji Coup went off reservation with a VETY large machete. Carves up a street breaking car windows and attempting to break into houses. First cop on the scene was a Delta patrol (dog van). All Delta cops carry sidearms (Glocks) because they operate alone with just their dogs (land sharks). The Indian nutter approached the cop waving the machete and screaming that he was going to kill everybody. The cop warned him twice whilst slowly backing off to give him room. It no avail as the guy tried to rush the cop. He got two 9mm in the chest from 3 metres killing him.
Nominally NZ cops are an unarmed force, but they carry tasers all the time and can resort to their Glocks from their lock box between their seats or to the M-15 in the car’s boot armoury that also holds their vests and other assorted equipment … just in case!
NZ Is unusual ib=n having a nominal unarmed Police Force ….. until they tool up when circumstances demand it.
@ eaglesoars:
Did you hear him going off on McConnell for suggesting that they need to come up with a way for states to declare bankruptcy, rather than having the federal government borrow more money to bail them out?
eaglesoars wrote:
I just hope the morons in NYC realise what a waste of Oxygen their Mayor actually is when November rolls around and the denizens of Democrat ‘smoke filled rooms’ decide to push Cuomo forward as a possible VP.
Amazing !
AZfederalist wrote:
To be fair this article is Canada and it’s little man Trudeau pushing for more gun laws in response.
lobo91 wrote:
yeah, and his budget is all federal money, yada yada. He’ll win re=election if he runs because the Republican Party in NY is utterly hopeless.
Sanity
Eviscerating California’s voter-approved gun control measures for a second time, a federal judge on Thursday blocked the state from enforcing background checks during ammunition purchases.
In a 120-page order from the Southern District of California, U.S. District Judge Roger Benitez ticked off the numerous reasons he found Proposition 63, which was passed by 63% of California voters in 2016 “misfires and the Second Amendment rights of California citizens have been gravely injured” by a provision of the law requiring background checks on all ammunition purchases in the Golden State.
Benitez preliminary enjoined the state from enforcing the provision while the lawsuit is pending.
https://www.courthousenews.com/california-blocked-from-enforcing-ammo-background-checks/
@ eaglesoars:
….. ” Section 362D of the Public Health Act 2005 provides:
Failure to comply with public health directions
A person to whom a public health direction applies must comply with the
direction unless the person has a reasonable excuse.
Maximum penalty—100 penalty units.
Commissar Dr Jeannette Young
Chief Commissar Health Officer
Peoples’ Democratic Socialist Republik of Queensland
I hear you say… what the fracking hell is a penalty unit?
At $133 per 1 penalty unit (at present but subject to change). So nothing to sneeze at (unless you have coronavirus, then sneeze all you want)
So Queenslanders will need to cross the border into New South Wales or feign other illness to get medical relief until after the next election (this year :))
SPIT
This was to prevent doctors in Queensland from writing prescriptions for HydroxyChloriquine. These pert dictators need to be brought to heel for their own good before the good burgers of Queensland coat them with tar and feathers and run them out of town on a rail.
Queenslanders are normally level headed and heavily armed individuals but something happened 3 years ago and they elected a socialist State Government. November is the time to fix that MAJOR mistake
ANZAC Day tomorrow .
Up at zero dark thirty to watch the sun rise and remember them on this strange solo ANZAC Day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtQ4vu_R2dM&feature=youtu.be
Enjoy past remembrances
Major Aussie Infidel ED & bar
Still on Level #4 lockdown until Monday at midnight when the country goes to level #3
Thank goodness. I can get building supplies again and join my bubble with my daughters bubble.
Her fence needs work after a nasty storm!
🙂
coldwarrior wrote:
Ugh. Hang in there man. You’ll push through this.