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Americans reluctant to intervene in Libya

by Phantom Ace ( 174 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Democratic Party, Islamic Supremacism, Leftist-Islamic Alliance, Libya, Military, Muslim Brotherhood, Progressives, Republican Party, Tranzis at March 16th, 2011 - 2:00 pm

The Republicans really botched an opportunity to destroy the Tranzi Progressives. Many leftists like John Kerry, Harry Reid, Chuck Schumer and others were calling for the US to set up a no fly zone over Libya. Instead of hammering the Democrats for wanting us to get involved in conflict where there are no US interest, Republicans like John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Mitt Romney, John Bolton, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Bill Kristol, Mike Huckabee and others agreed and even tried to use this to paint Obama as weak. Despite all this bipartisan propaganda most Americans are against getting involved.

The public by a wide margin says the United States does not have a responsibility to do something about the fighting between government forces and anti-government groups in Libya. And while opinion is divided over enforcing a no-fly zone over Libya, this view is undercut by the fact that Americans overwhelmingly oppose bombing Libyan military air defenses.

The latest national survey by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, conducted March 10-13 among 1,001 adults, finds that 63% say the United States does not have a responsibility to act in Libya; fewer than half as many (27%) say the U.S. has this responsibility. Opinion about U.S. responsibility to take action in Libya is comparable to views about the conflict between Serbs and Bosnians in 1995; just 30% said the U.S. had a responsibility in that case. By contrast, far more Americans said the U.S. had a responsibility to take action in Kosovo in 1999 and in the Darfur crisis of 2007.

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Roughly half of Americans (54%) say that the best argument for not using military force in Libya is that U.S. military forces are already overcommitted. Far fewer (19%) say the best argument for not using force is that opposition groups in Libya may be no better than the current government or that Libya is not of vital interest to the United States (13%).

Read the rest: Public Wary of Military Intervention in Libya

The American public wants no part of the Libya mess. It saddens me that the editorial review board of the National Review is pushing for American intervention in Libya. I really don’t get why the Conservative foreign policy establishment is so gung ho on getting involved in Libya. Well the answer is that the foreign policy establishment of the GOP is not Conservative, but Wilsonian Progressive. These same clowns push for the US to get involved in Bosnia when the majority of Americans were against it. The result was the creation of an Islamicstate in Europe. These same fools continued to  demonized the Serbs was able to convince enough Americans to go along with Clinton’s illegal bombing of Serbia. The result of this shameful act was the creation of an Islamic criminal state in Europe involved in drug trafficking, child sex slavery and organ harvesting. Now they want to get involved in Libya, the result of which will produce an Islamic state. These same fools turned the War on Islamic-Imperialism into a war to spread Muslim democracy. The result is 5,000 dead Americans and Islam more powerful now than before 9/11.

I am disappointed that Conservatives like Sarah Palin, John Bolton, the National Review and others are cheer leading a leftist idea. America is broke and our economy a mess. We should be focused on fixing our own problems and not getting involved in an internal Arab conflict. Clearly the leaders of the Conservative movement are being mislead by people with a Progressive agenda. We should oppose any involvement in Libya and use it as a club to beat the Left with. Clearly the elites of both parties are going against the will of the American public.

Although I am a small voice, I will do all I can to oppose the Tranzi-Wilsonian foreign policy alliance. There were no blogs during Bosnia or Kosovo to spread the truth about the situation. I was mislead in the run up to Iraq the real reason for the invasion. I will not sit idly by and stay quiet over Libya. I will oppose this Progressive based foreign policy with all my fiber in my being.

No American blood for Islamic Democracy!

Update:

Here is a good analysis by Michael Totten on the hypocrisy of the Arab world. Although I disagree with Totten’s WIlsonian ideology, he is intellectually honest in realizing Americans have had enough of dying for the Islamic world.

As forces loyalto Libya’s cruel and de ranged tyrant Moammar Khadafy re conquer one rebel-held city after an other, the Arab League and the Arabic press are calling for a no-fly zone over the country to tip, or at least even, the odds. While I’m inclined to help the Libyans on humanitarian grounds and to advance our own national interests, the American public’s appetite is low for intervening on behalf of the rebels — and it’s largely the Arab world’s fault.

Last time Americans led a coalition to topple a mass-murdering dictatorship in the Middle East, the Arab League and the Arabic press hysterically denounced us as imperialist crusaders fighting a war for oil and Israel. Egged on by al-Jazeera, they cheerleaded the “resistance” that killed thousands of our soldiers with roadside bombs in the years that followed.

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Few expected Iraq to transition smoothly to a stable democracy after so many years of repression, sanctions and war — but if Iraqis hadn’t responded with such a vicious campaign of violence against our soldiers and each other, the thought of helping Libyans who suffer under similar circumstances wouldn’t frighten or disgust quite so many of us.

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They might find that if they treated us more like the Kurds do, more of us will be willing to help them in the future — rather than shun them as hostiles who deserve to be left to their fate

Read more: What about our hearts and minds?

Totten is spot on here. Why is the opinion of the Arab Islamic world more important than the opinion of that of Americans? For the last 20 years, America’s military actions freom Bosnian to Iraq, have been involved in the Islamic world, while we ignore the fires in our own hemisphere. Containmnet of the Islamic world should be our foreign policy.

 It is time for America to leave the Islamic world to its own devices and we should pursue a policy of arming Israelto the teeth. We  should be allying ourselves with Non Islamic powers on the borders of Dar al Islam.  The US should support the destruction of Hizballah and the establishment of Lebanon as a Christian state to provide refuge for Middle East Christians. We should assist genuinely Pro Western people like the Kurds or Persian Nationalist wanting to get rid of their Arabized Ayatollah regime.  All aid to Kossovo should be withdrawn and we should allow the Serbs to take back their rightful province. Bosnia should be dived between Serbia and Croatia, thus ending a 600 year wrong caused by the Islamic Turks. We should support European anti-Islamic movements an undue the Pro-Islamic European Union. The US also should seek to stabilize Mexico and dominate our own hemisphere once again.

The tme for a realistic foreign policy based on American interest and preservation of Western civilization is needed. Americans have bled enough for Islam. If we need to make sacrifices then let it be for American interests, allies and Western Civilization in general.

The Delusions of Islamic Democracy

by Phantom Ace ( 116 Comments › )
Filed under Afghanistan, Iraq, Islamic Supremacism, Islamic Terrorism, Israel, Middle East, Multiculturalism, Sharia (Islamic Law) at April 11th, 2010 - 2:30 pm

One of the biggest pretexts that was used to justify staying in Afghanistan and in Iraq after our initial victory was that we should establish Democracies there and nurture it. The theory that was invented by Neo-Wilsonian Academics was that if democracy was established in those places, it would spread like wildfire in the Islamic World. Although the theorists were well meaning and were using the collapse of the Communist block as an example. They apparently didn’t know the history of Dar Al Islam. They thought freedom and free markets appeal to these people. They were wrong and many Americans died over this Muslim Democracy project.

Lee Smith has written a book on Islamic political thinking called The Strong Horse: Power, Politics, and the Clash of Arab Civilizations .  He thoroughly debunks the Muslim Democracy concept, as well as the blame Israel ideology of the Left. He explains that Muslims value violence and it is a natural part of their politics. The Arab Muslims love a strong man and admire the conquests/genocidal wars their ancestors perpetrated on other people. Democracy is meaningless to them.

Smith develops six central insights in his book.

Arab political history is a history of the powerful ruling the weak through violence.

Islamic terror and governmental tyranny are the two sides of the coin of Arab political pathology.

Liberal democratic principles are unattractive to the vast majority of Arabs who believe that politics is and by rights ought to remain a violent enterprise and prefer the narrative of resistance to the narrative of liberty.

Liberal Arab reformers are unwilling to fight for their principles.

Read the rest: Israel the Strong Horse

Although the article is mostly about how Israel must not show weakness, the part about Islamic political thinking is revealing. I recommend this book to anyone who still believes that the loss of American blood and treasure is justified in imposing Democracy in the Middle East. This concept has met the reality of the Islamic world. Dar AL Islam is not the Old Soviet Union or Imperial Japan. It is an even more evil entity that has led to the exterminations of millions through the centuries. America must confront this threat, but not in the name of Democracy. We must smash them, humiliate them, take resources and leave. The Muslims only respect strength and that is the truth.