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Tampa GOP Presidential Debate

by Phantom Ace ( 260 Comments › )
Filed under Elections 2012, Mitt Romney, Open thread, Republican Party at September 12th, 2011 - 8:00 pm

Tonight’s CNN/Tea Party debate is in Tampa. This is a thread to discuss the debate. Rumors are that Michele Bachmann is planning to go after Rick Perry. Expect fireworks tonight!

Bobby Jindal endorses Rick Perry

by Phantom Ace ( 4 Comments › )
Filed under Elections 2012, Headlines, Mitt Romney, Progressives, Republican Party at September 12th, 2011 - 4:47 pm

The media was abuzz with Liberal Republican Tim Pawlenty endorsing fellow Liberal Mitt Romney. Rick Perry has pulled a trump card to counter this. Louisiana Governor, Bobby Jindal has endorsed Rick Perry.

Tampa, Florida (CNN) – Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal is backing Rick Perry for president, a major endorsement for the Texas governor as the campaign for the Republican nomination enters the crucial fall stretch of the primary calendar, a source tells CNN.

Jindal is on his way to Florida and will be Perry’s guest at Monday night’s “Tea Party Republican Debate” broadcast on CNN from Tampa, the source said. Jindal is expected to formally make the announcement prior to the debate.

The battle between the Rockeferller WIng of the GOP and the Reagan Wing is under way.

The origins of the Perry-Bush feud

by Mojambo ( 150 Comments › )
Filed under Elections 2012, George W. Bush at September 12th, 2011 - 11:30 am

It is no secret that Perry and Bush are not exactly bosom buddies. I was glad to see Rick Perry slap Karl Rove (aka “The Architect”) on the debate the other day. It actually bodes well if he is the nominee that  he is not into turning the other cheek but is willing to take the fight to the other side. As the author states  “Perry and Bush really just embody the divide in the broader GOP between grassroots conservatives and the more moderate political establishment.”

by Mark Hemingway

At last week’s Republican debate at the Reagan Library, a long-simmering Texas political feud made its grand entrance onto the national stage. Politico’s John Harris asked GOP presidential frontrunner and Texas governor Rick Perry about his former political adviser Karl Rove’s recent statement that Perry’s views on Social Security were “toxic.”

“Karl has been over the top for a long time in some of his remarks, so I’m not responsible for Karl any more,” Perry fired back, later adding, “We’re not trying to pick fights here.”

This wasn’t the first shot that Rove has taken at Perry in recent weeks. When Perry said Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke would be “almost treasonous” for inflating the money supply ahead of the election, Rove went on television and unhelpfully offered his opinion that this was “not, again, a presidential statement.”

The two powerful Texas Republicans have a relationship that goes back over 20 years, long predating Rove’s ascension to the White House with Perry’s predecessor as governor, George W. Bush. To this day, Rove takes credit for persuading Perry to switch parties in 1989 and run for agriculture commissioner as a Republican the following year. It’s not surprising that two fiercely competitive political figures would have had their share of disagreements in all that time.

“There’s no question that there’s tension between Bush world and Perry world. The idea that there isn’t is ludicrous to anybody that has been in the middle of Texas politics,” says Texas Tribune editor in chief Evan Smith, referring to the two main camps in the Texas GOP.

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“We have written and others have written about the Bush-Perry stuff, and mostly just speculated, because nobody will talk about it on the record,” Smith says. “We’ve all talked to people off the record or on background. Nobody will talk about exactly what’s at work here—Is it rivalry? Is it jealousy? Is it a simple difference of ideology?”

Ardent Perry booster and Texas state senator Dan Patrick dismisses the tension as “a problem that no one in Texas sees” and “more media hype than reality.” But that is definitely a minority view.

In the end, Smith says that explaining the relationship boils down to interpreting “widely accepted lore.” And in Texas politics there’s enough lore to compile a volume that would put Bulfinch’s to shame.

The trouble is that lore isn’t always dependable. “Everyone who’s been around Texas politics can point to some great story demonstrating the vast fight between the two camps, when in fact sometimes those stories are just stories,” says Michael Quinn Sullivan of the influential grassroots group Empower Texans.

Here are a few of the stories freely offered:

The 1998 campaign: In Texas, the governor and lieutenant governor are elected separately, and in 1998, Bush ran for governor (as the incumbent) and Perry for lieutenant governor. It was already plain that Bush and Rove had designs on the 2000 presidential election, and Rove was pursuing an electoral strategy that would maximize Bush’s margin of victory in the governor’s race so as to demonstrate his broad appeal. Accordingly, Rove was working to mobilize Bush supporters—even if they also supported the Democrat in the lieutenant governor’s race.

The trouble was that Perry’s opponent, John Sharp, was a formidable candidate, and the race between the two of them was close. Rove’s get-out-the-vote calls to supporters of Bush and Sharp would make the race even closer.

“Rove claimed that he had polling showing that Perry was up by 14 points so this wasn’t going to hurt,” recounts Ratcliffe. “[Perry strategist Dave] Carney … had polling showing that Perry was neck and neck with Sharp at best and probably losing by a couple of points, and they got into a big argument with Rove over whether he would continue to make the get-out-the-vote calls to Sharp supporters.”

Complicating things, the Perry campaign wanted to run a negative ad against Sharp. “Depending on who you talk to, you get a different version of the ad. One of them was attacking Sharp on a plan he had for overhauling the state’s business tax, and they were going to call it an ‘income tax,’ ” Ratcliffe says. “And it was so similar to a plan that Bush [had once endorsed that] there was some fear this would come back to haunt Bush in the presidential campaign as, ‘Oh, he proposed an income tax in Texas.’ ”

Rove is then alleged to have threatened the Perry campaign that if they went negative on Sharp, he would withhold further use of the endorsement ad that Perry had received from George H.W. Bush, which was proving effective. Perry didn’t go negative and eked out a too-close-for-comfort victory by 68,000 votes.

Bush’s legacy: In 2007, as improbable as it seems, Perry was stumping for Rudy Giuliani in Iowa and told the crowd, “George [W. Bush] has never, ever been a fiscal conservative.” That might be a defensible statement to many Republicans, but it appears to have been taken as a major affront in Bush world.

“I think the Bush people consider that an extraordinary breach of etiquette from someone whose career was at least in part made by George W. Bush’s embrace of him,” says Smith, “and by Bush’s departure for the White House,” which promoted Perry from lieutenant governor to governor. Ratcliffe thinks the incident created more tension between Rove and Perry than the squabble in the ’98 election. This was seen as a personal attack, and the dispute over election strategy as just a “consultant fight.”

Further, Rove likely encouraged Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison to mount a primary challenge to Perry last year. “It’s hard to look at who endorsed Kay and not draw conclusions,” Smith says. “You had Karl, you had Karen [Hughes], you had H.W. Bush, you had Baker. You have pretty much every consequential figure in Bush world—with the exception of Joe Allbaugh—supporting Kay. You want to call that a coincidence?”

Proxy wars: To some extent, Perry and Bush really just embody the divide in the broader GOP between grassroots conservatives and the more moderate political establishment. Fairly or unfairly, these differences get projected onto Bush and Perry as personal characteristics.

There are obvious contrasts. Perry was the son of rural tenant farmers, while Bush was born into a wealthy political dynasty. “Certainly there are style differences, there are approach differences, there are background differences. You can go on and on and on,” Sullivan says. “These differences mean that everyone thinks there must be conflict, conflict must exist.”

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The reality is that many of the contrasts between Bush and Perry could also be explained away by circumstance. Bush had to work with a Democratic legislature when he was governor so was naturally more conciliatory. Perry, on the other hand, enjoyed a GOP supermajority in the last state legislative session, and the era of Pelosi and Obama has GOP voters wanting sharp-elbowed, rather than compassionate, conservatism.

Still, to the extent there is a class divide in Texas politics, neither camp is above exploiting perceptions when it’s useful. “One thing to understand is that it’s really Dallas versus the rest of the state. Over the last decade, if you went to Fort Worth or Houston or Midland you would find Republicans like Rick Perry. But if you went to Dallas they would say he was a hick and a bumbler and was an embarrassment to the Republican party. Dallas is kind of a blue-blood Republican town,” Ratcliffe says.

During the 2010 primary fight against Hutchison, Perry strategist Dave Carney described her and those behind her campaign as “country-club Republicans” to some effect. Smith thinks Rove took that personally. “If you know anything about Karl Rove, he is many things, but I’m not sure a ‘country-club Republican’ is one of them,” he says.

Despite this, Jeb Bush told Fox News last month he’s “never heard anybody in my family say anything but good things about Rick Perry.” But he did allow that there might be tension “maybe with Karl.” For his part, Rove dismissed that idea on The O’Reilly Factor as recently as the night before the Reagan Library debate when Perry dismissed Rove’s criticisms as “over the top.”

Assuming, then, the existence of a Bush/Rove/Perry feud, the question becomes whether this will have an effect on a Perry candidacy.

For starters, the feud may actually help Perry. Democrats will have a hard time portraying Rick Perry as the second coming of Dubya if he’s being regularly jabbed by the man affectionately described as “Bush’s Brain.” (And don’t discount the possibility that Rove the evil genius knows he’s doing Perry a favor by helping draw a sharp contrast between him and the former president early and often.)

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But so far that doesn’t appear to be happening, and Rove shrugged off the suggestion it would on The O’Reilly Factor. “He’s got to have his people call the Bush people,” said Rove. “Perry’s just now into the race, and he needs to pick up the phone and start dialing those people—and he is.”

Ultimately, Smith thinks that any disputes with Rove won’t affect a Perry candidacy. “The enthusiasm for Governor Perry in Texas will be sufficient that he’ll not only win Texas, but he’ll win it by a great margin, and he’ll have no shortage of money raised,” Smith says.

Ratcliffe agrees. “I suspect that if the smoke clears and Perry’s the Republican nominee, Rove will fall right in line helping him out.”

Until then, it may seem improbable to have Perry and Rove on the same political page. But if Perry does become the nominee, there’s a whole new chapter in the book of Texas political lore just waiting to be written.

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Karl Rove feigns ‘surprise’ at Rick Perry’s criticism of him

by Mojambo ( 8 Comments › )
Filed under Elections 2012, Headlines, Republican Party at September 8th, 2011 - 5:46 pm

I guess Karl Rove does not like to be hit back.

by Justin Sink

Former George W. Bush and Rick Perry adviser Karl Rove said that it was an “odd moment” when his critique of the current Texas governor was mentioned in last night’s presidential debate, and that he was “surprised” when Perry said that he had been “over the top for a long time.”

“Governor Perry is responsible for what he writes and says — what’s he upset about?” Rove said on Fox News.

Rove had previously said that Perry’s views on Social Security — likening the program as currently constituted to “a Ponzi scheme” — were “toxic in a general-election environment and they are also toxic in a Republican primary.” Perry did not back away from the comments Wednesday night, again referring to the program as “a Ponzi scheme” and “a monstrous lie.” Perry also said, “I’m not responsible for Karl anymore.”

Rove shot back that he “didn’t know I was under his personal care like that,” and suggested that Perry needed to convey his plan — which involves giving control of Social Security to the states — more effectively to have a chance in the election.

“You have a responsibility to explain that to the American people — if you want to win — in a way that’s reassuring,” Rove said. “This is a problem that in my opinion he ought to address sooner rather than later.”

Nevertheless, Rove softened his comments by emphasizing that his critique of Perry was aimed at “making Barack Obama a one-term president” and that if Perry were to become the Republican nominee, “I want him to win.”

In general, Rove was less critical of the Texas governor than he has been in the weeks before the debate, when he openly questioned the quality of the GOP field as a whole.

“You understand why Republicans are feeling more comfortable with their options and you can also understand why President Obama is in trouble, because from every one of those people was a principled, thoughtful critique of Barack Obama’s policies,” Rove said.

Rove also counted Perry as among his “winners” Wednesday night, saying he delivered “a formidable performance.”

“He’s passionate, provocative, Texan to his core … over the course of a presidential campaign, it’s like that old children’s tale, ‘The Emperor With No Clothes,’ you get to see candidates exactly how they are,” Rove said.

Rove also praised former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney for his performance in the debate.

“Mitt Romney was steady, solid, had some good comebacks,” Rove said.

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