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  • The Return of Taco Tuesday — Jury Booty

    by The Barbarian ( 102 Comments › )
    Filed under Uncategorized at November 13th, 2018 - 6:00 am

    I stopped going to bars, even just to watch the games with friends, because when strangers meet me and find out what I do, there are always two scenarios that result:

    1. A long winded tale of either themselves or a friend being wronged by someone, something, or the government at large, always ending with the phrase, “so I have a case, right”? (My answer, knowing the clogging of the California Superior Court system by fools like this and realizing Judge Judy isn’t willing to take all of them off our hands, is to say “maybe, but if you lose you’ll have to pay the other side’s fees and costs” or “nah, not really.”)

    2. An indignant snotting that they have been called for jury duty. God forbid you should be inconvenienced for the rights of others to be judged by their peers.

    Of the former, there is one that really stands out. This wasn’t in a bar, though, it was some years ago, when the mother of one of Football Savant Offspring’s friends came to pick him up. They wanted to finish a video game, so I foolishly offered a glass of wine. The woman immediately launched into a tale of how they all went to Disneyland a few months ago and upon entry, her older boy was taken aside and searched and told to put on a t-shirt. I’d seen the “older boy” – he was tatted up like an MS-13 gang initiation with the wardrobe to match. Sure enough, that’s what he was wearing: Tank undershirt, pants drooping down revealing 2 inches of boxer shorts – all in all perfectly dressed for the Yard at San Quentin; not so much the Magic Kingdom. Someone ran to one of the Main Street shops and purchased a Disney-sanctioned t-shirt (I’ll assume since the biggest bad-asses in the Disney World are the Pirates of the Caribbean, it had a Yo Ho theme to it). He put it on, covering up the offending Hanes, and went into the park.

    After about an hour, the rebel without a clue removed the shirt, threw it in the trash and continued through the Park. He was stopped awhile later by security, who called in his name and discovered sure enough, he’d been advised by security upon entry that he could not wear Couture du South Central. They ejected him. Period. The rest of the group left as well. No refunds, by the way. At a place with a hefty admission.

    So mom thought she had a case against Disney. Uh, no. They had explained the dress code to your delinquent asshole. He complied; until he decided to be a tough guy.  The Mouse doesn’t dick around.  “But discrimination!”  Sorry, Dressing like the Crips is not covered under Title VII.

    As far as getting out of jury duty, here are some dandy behaviors I’ve seen in the past

    1.  Ignore the warnings about how to dress.  Show up like you’re going to the beach.  Bonus points for swim trunks.  If you’re female, dressing like you’re about to go to work the South Side of Geary Street is always good.  Of course, there are some judges who don’t take very kindly to this.  I’ve seen one actually hold the offendee in contempt, and proceeded to tell them they would not have been deemed to have shown up.  Getting chastised by the Bench in front of a roomful of strangers is never a day-making experience.  I had one judge in Solano County tell Harriet the Hooker to come back at 4:00.  Bring a toothbrush.
    2.  If a criminal trial, voir dire will involve one inevitable question.  “Would you believe the testimony of a police officer over the testimony of a conflicting witness?”  My response to this question is always “not necessarily; I would weigh the testimony and the credibility of each witness on its own merits.”  (This explains why I am ALWAYS seated on a criminal jury).  To get off, either say you wouldn’t believe the “pigs” if their tongues came notarized or you say that you would always believe a police officer.  The former gets you bounced by the prosecutor and a lot of stink eye from the cops in the vicinity.  All you can hope for is that they didn’t catch your “name”.  The latter freaks out defense counsel.  Either way, you’re gone.  Also in the case of the former, the potential juror will inevitably relate to all and sundry the reason for their mistrust of the police, believing the gallery will nod their heads in sympathy with their maltreatment at the hands of the Po Po.  Not me, I just smirk and think (yeah, he had it comin’).
    3.  If a criminal trial, say you’ve read all about the case and you think the defendants are completely guilty.  Everyone will love you for this, since it can be argued you have contaminated the entire jury pool.
    4.   Civil trials are harder to get out of.  For one thing, there probably hasn’t been a boatload of pre-trial publicity, there is no police involvement (usually) and they only give you the bare bones of the dispute.  I don’t get seated a lot at civil trials.  For one thing, I am not going to be easily wowed by a lot of legalese and grandstanding; second, I know every trick these clowns are going to pull out of their brief bags.  Here’s a story (yeah, I know….ANOTHER ONE?).I got called for jury duty for a civil matter.  Jury was just about seated and I was in the box for alternates (no matter how minor the case, there is ALWAYS at least ONE alternate, usually two).  This was your basic “whiplash” case involving two slip and fall lawyers, both of whom were rather annoyed during voir dire to learn that I had never heard of them.  Previous questioning had centered on the fact that all medical testimony would be coming from a chiropractor rather than other medical professionals.  This is a red flag for me – I know all about the incestuous relationship between shysters and chiropractors.  I’m sure they perform a public service to those that use them; but in the age of the CAT scan, the PET scan and the MRI, I’m thinking if something is that wrong with you that you require compensation, there better be an M.D. taking the stand at one point.

    In any event, Judge Oliver asked me if I had been following the voir dire; I had; was there any question that I would particularly like to address?; there was.  “Counsel for plaintiff asked if any of the jury pool would never use the services of a chiropractor.  I would answer that question in the affirmative.”  At that point, plaintiff’s counsel asked me directly – “why is that?”  I refer you back to my remark about red flags in the previous paragraph.  That would have been my answer.  However, I looked at the judge and said “are you directing me to answer that, Your Honor?”  Judge Oliver was really quick.  He knew exactly what would happen if I did – the entire jury pool would hear a me basically call the plaintiff’s case bogus and here’s the 24 reasons why you shouldn’t believe his witness.  Oliver said “she doesn’t OWE you an explanation, counselor.  She merely said she would not use a chiropractor.  Make of that what you will.”

    I was home in 10 minutes.

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    102 Responses to “The Return of Taco Tuesday — Jury Booty”
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    1. rain of lead
      1 | November 13, 2018 6:30 am

      morning y’all


    2. 2 | November 13, 2018 9:43 am

      Morning everyone.

      Smoke still thick over the Oakland Hills from the Camp Wildfire. I walk outside my front door and all I can smell is burning leaves. Those of us living in NorCal either have or know someone who has a relative or friend who as lost everything.

      Meanwhile, intrepid Jerry Brown refuses to blame the environmentalists, who killed off the lumber industry here, and instead says “climate change” and sounds like a fool. Weyerhauser, et al. used to cut down all those dead, diseased and old-growth trees and plant five to replace them. Now no one does anything. Environmentalists used to claim that “wildfires are a good thing.” Now that their absurd and dangerous policies have shown themselves to be the disasters that they are, we must find a different bogeyman.


    3. eaglesoars
      4 | November 13, 2018 12:26 pm

      This is freaking hilarious

      Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez joins environmental activists in protest at Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi’s office

      https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1062367623307055105


    4. 5 | November 13, 2018 12:37 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      She really believes her own publicity, doesn’t she, that’s she’s the hottest thing in shoe leather? Well, my guess is this stunt may have very well gotten her the dregs of committee assignments.

      You can protest in Ryan’s office, honey, but you do NOT mess with Botox Brain.


    5. 6 | November 13, 2018 12:59 pm

      Haha! CNN lawsuit about Baby Jim Acosta’s press pass was assigned to Judge Timothy J. Kelly, a TRUMP appointee. And no, kiddees, that is not grounds for recusal.


    6. eaglesoars
      7 | November 13, 2018 1:05 pm

      @ The Barbarian:

      And prior to his appoint he was chief counsel to…CHUCK GRASSLEY!

      this is gonna be good!


    7. eaglesoars
      8 | November 13, 2018 1:07 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      You can protest in Ryan’s office, honey, but you do NOT mess with Botox Brain.

      Pelosi is going to take her aside and quietly explain how things work and give her one more chance. If she gets a clue, Pelosi will give her a lot of face time to help nail down the progressive front. If not, her new D.C. apartment is a tent.


    8. 9 | November 13, 2018 1:30 pm

      Legal question- not ‘do I have a case’ but would someone have a case after?

      We’ve had people, usually adults, walking the neighborhood asking to mow yards with their own mower. If they were hurt, would they have grounds to sue? Would it be any different if a minor was mowing?

      Not sure if we’ll see the same thing at the new place. Probably not, at least the adults.


    9. eaglesoars
      10 | November 13, 2018 1:37 pm

      @ right_wing2:

      that would be covered by state law.

      Hey, I saw the post that you got the house, congrats! And on that note, buy liability insurance when you get to the new house. $1 million doesn’t cost much and it would probably cover the scenario w/a lawn mower person.


    10. 11 | November 13, 2018 2:00 pm

      @ right_wing2:

      It’s amazing what we’ve come to in a litigious society, isn’t it? Kids used to roam the neighborhood offering to cut your grass and you never thought twice about handing them $5. Now, let there be an rouge pebble that flies up and hits the kid, and you’re on the hook for thousands.

      However, I would definitely give a look, as eagles says, to the state law. Another thing you can do is ask your neighbors who cuts their grass. If they give a reference, go with that. If they don’t, Homey Depot has some lovely ones for purchase.


    11. eaglesoars
      12 | November 13, 2018 3:57 pm

      Welp, Northern Virginia got the Amazon HQ! People are mostly pretty happy. They’ve done a good job locating it as Crystal City is just about empty and metro access is the best in the area. Property values are already up which is great if you want to sell, not great if you want to buy and absolutely sucks if you are renting.

      My only issue is that it is ‘across the street’ (as these things go) from the Pentagon. It’s Ground Zero.

      And if you happen to own a store in Pentagon City Mall – which really IS across the street – you are in Fat City. That mall already has one of the highest $ income/sq foot in the country.


    12. eaglesoars
      13 | November 13, 2018 4:20 pm

      Remember the other day when Guggi was telling us how unprepared the German military is. Here are some hard numbers, e.g., Tiger attack choppers, of which there are 62 in theory, have only 12 usable

      https://twitter.com/HarmlessYardDog/status/1062451245691166722


    13. Aussie Infidel
      14 | November 13, 2018 6:18 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      Morning everyone.

      Smoke still thick over the Oakland Hills from the Camp Wildfire. I walk outside my front door and all I can smell is burning leaves. Those of us living in NorCal either have or know someone who has a relative or friend who as lost everything.

      Meanwhile, intrepid Jerry Brown refuses to blame the environmentalists, who killed off the lumber industry here, and instead says “climate change” and sounds like a fool. Weyerhauser, et al. used to cut down all those dead, diseased and old-growth trees and plant five to replace them. Now no one does anything. Environmentalists used to claim that “wildfires are a good thing.” Now that their absurd and dangerous policies have shown themselves to be the disasters that they are, we must find a different bogeyman.

      The Greenies like the good neo-Marxists they are are responsible for the killing of so many people. The Victorian bushfires of the infamous ‘Black Thursday fires’ were die solely to the Greens total rejection of burning off scrub during the cool winters and minimising the total fuel load across southern Victoria. THEY KNEW BEST COMRADE. Then we had the loss of lives and several towns in the inevitable fires.

      One intrepid guy hot wired a council (local body) bulldozer and used it to cut an emergency firebreak that saved one town and the Green council took him to court after the fires and charged him with theft of council property and destruction of habitat. Fortunately a judge threw it into the garbage where it belonged. But the Greens are such fascistic little communists that they have lose all reason to their political narcissism.

      These Greenie councils have encouraged people to build along forested ridge lines because it offers ‘better views’ and they can raise more rates (local taxes) for their sensitivity training courses etc.
      Alas the physics of fire means that fires burn UP HILL best and are hottest at the crests where the houses are sited. Dozens died but these green killers were never brought to heel and charged with wilful manslaughter.

      SPIT


    14. coldwarrior
      15 | November 13, 2018 7:32 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      Nurses are bad ass. Especially in Paradise, California.

      https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/11/13/meet-the-badass-nurse-who-drove-his-toyota-pickup-truck-back-into-paradise-to-rescue-patients/

      YES!!!


    15. Possum
      16 | November 13, 2018 7:33 pm

      I cancelled the call to 1-800-HOOKER because I got the heating working again in the apartment.

      This just proves men do not need women as long as the man has electrical skillz


    16. coldwarrior
      18 | November 13, 2018 7:42 pm

      @ Possum:
      Sooooo many one liners from that comment


    17. Possum
      19 | November 13, 2018 7:44 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      It is so cold here in Houston I am even willing to sleep with Bunk just to keep warm, it is 37F here!

      My neighbors who are from South America are dressed like they are going to walk across the South pole.


    18. Possum
      20 | November 13, 2018 7:47 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      I can function alone quite well, but life is much better when I am in a team.


    19. lobo91
      21 | November 13, 2018 7:50 pm

      Our high yesterday was 28, and it got down to 12 overnight.


    20. Possum
      22 | November 13, 2018 7:56 pm

      lobo91 wrote:

      Our high yesterday was 28, and it got down to 12 overnight.

      I hope tomorrow it is in the 90F range.

      I go get my nuts felt.


    21. Possum
      23 | November 13, 2018 7:58 pm

      Two conflicting emotions.

      One, I am scared.

      Two I do not give a shit anymore.

      Um and can I add a three?

      All I want now in life is for someone to look after my cats when I can’t


    22. rain of lead
      24 | November 13, 2018 7:59 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      say whaaa….
      ok, a matter of monthes

      so winter of NEXT year maybe…or does he mean THIS winter?

      it’s ok let it get cold
      first batch of homemade booze is done
      2 qts of hard cider abv 10-12%
      12 oz of applejack abv 35-40%
      just spitballin on the % cause I don’t have a hydrometer

      but damn that applejack is good


    23. CynicalConservative
      26 | November 13, 2018 8:01 pm

      @ Possum:
      37? Shorts and t-shirt weather working on the farm.


    24. lobo91
      27 | November 13, 2018 8:02 pm

      Ocasio-Cortez Ticks Off Democrats With Her First Action In D.C. – Protesting Nancy Pelosi

      Newly elected Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) made her first appearance in Washington, D.C., Tuesday, but the first item on her agenda has fellow Democrats seeing red.

      Ocasio-Cortez joined a group of young activists called the “Sunrise Movement” in staging a sit-in protest outside the Capitol Hill office of Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), the House Minority Leader and, come January, the likely Speaker of the House — and Ocasio-Cortez’s new boss.

      Ocasio-Cortez addressed the protesters, who were holding signs asking for a “Green New Deal” from Democrats in charge, and demanding “Green Jobs for All,” shook hands, and gave high-fives to the 50 or so protesters who blocked the entrance to Pelosi’s office.

      Yeah…that’s going to get her a good committee assignment…


    25. rain of lead
      28 | November 13, 2018 8:03 pm

      speaks for itself
      Ocasio-Cortez Claims New Yorkers Are ‘Outraged’ Over Opening of New Amazon Headquarters

      https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ocasio-cortez-claims-yorkers-outraged-135522664.html


    26. Possum
      29 | November 13, 2018 8:07 pm

      CynicalConservative wrote:

      @ Possum:
      37? Shorts and t-shirt weather working on the farm.

      Try finding a farm in central Houston. 🙂


    27. CynicalConservative
      31 | November 13, 2018 8:09 pm

      @ Possum:
      Why would I want to be in central houston? That’s why I live on a farm.


    28. lobo91
      32 | November 13, 2018 8:20 pm

      @ rain of lead:

      Gee…I wonder why?
      /s


    29. Possum
      33 | November 13, 2018 8:30 pm

      CynicalConservative wrote:

      @ Possum:
      Why would I want to be in central houston? That’s why I live on a farm.

      Hold my beer…..

      This Houston thing is going to change.


    30. eaglesoars
      34 | November 13, 2018 8:36 pm

      Why am I not surprised.

      Juan Manuel Grenados is the man who insulted Tucker Carlson’s daughter.

      He’s on the board of directors of The Women’s Initiative.

      *cough*

      https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/12/womens-group-tucker-carlson-juan-manuel-granados/?utm_source=Social&utm_medium=Twitter&utm_campaign=engagement


    31. Aussie Infidel
      35 | November 13, 2018 8:54 pm

      Type Roger Underwood + Bushfires, into your google bar and slowly read abt and by him.

      Underwood concluded back in the 1960s that it is too late fighting infernos once they are up and running.

      We in Western Australia in the 60s had something that is still known as the Dwellingup Fire – it was a whopper.

      Roger was in the fight against it as a very young recently qualified forester and he drew the right conclusion.

      It is simply impossible to combat such infernos, you can make minor moves etc. But you cant put it out virtually immediately.

      He has since then argued and argue and argued for the constant clearing of all undergrowth and a range of other preventative measures in the fight against these infernos.

      And, you guessed it, the GREENS have hated and hated and hated him.

      Although retired he is still active in this major catastrophic challenge and problem.

      The Californians – rather than slamming The Donald who has rightly said that this is a forest management issue, would be wise to contact Roger and invite him over to the Crazy State (aka California).


    32. 36 | November 13, 2018 10:05 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      The Californians – rather than slamming The Donald who has rightly said that this is a forest management issue, would be wise to contact Roger and invite him over to the Crazy State (aka California).

      Do not be deceived, California is not burning to the ground on accident. This so called wildfire problem here, is all about land, and population density control.

      Every time one of these areas burn to the ground, the average property parcel size decreases and the areas population density increases. Do not get this fucked up, this is not on accident.

      The areas in the state with the highest population densities are virtually immune from these kinds of wildfire events. There is a reason for that. TAXES.

      If you live in property locked Malibu, you pay a shit load of taxes, but you have a shit load of property as well. The amount you pay in taxes is small compared to what 10 families with the same property value, but one tenth of the parcel size property pay.

      In translation. Malibu was allowed to burn in order to turn hundreds of property parcels of 10 to 80 acres into thousands of property parcels in the 1 to 2 acres size. Much smaller property parcel, same property value, same tax rate amplified by 10 or more.

      Allowing it to burn to the ground was the only way to get the old wealthy property owners out so that they could bring in 10 times as many new wealthy property owners.


    33. eaglesoars
      37 | November 13, 2018 10:10 pm

      @ doriangrey:

      I don’t know which of the fires was being referenced, Camp or Woolsey, but I did read that a power company had called a resident about some power line on her property that was sparking and had to be looked at. I’m not correctly conveying the tech issue, but there was a reported issue with a power line malfunction.


    34. 38 | November 13, 2018 11:32 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      Yeah we have an umbrella policy. My years selling insurance taught me that!


    35. 39 | November 13, 2018 11:34 pm

      @ The Barbarian:
      The backyard in this place is big enough that I’m going to get a small riding mower.

      Yeah it’s going to be a huge change from our current ‘hood adjacent’ place.


    36. 40 | November 13, 2018 11:43 pm

      @ right_wing2:
      Different States have different laws. Last time I checked (CA) if the work is less than $900, no Workmen’s Comp insurance is required.

      HOWEVER, there’s still potential liability if Slippin’ Jimmy steps into a gopher hole that he dug yesterday and twists his ankle.

      A million dollar umbrella liability policy is fairly inexpensive.


    37. 41 | November 13, 2018 11:46 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      You beat me to it, and you’re correct.


    38. 42 | November 13, 2018 11:50 pm

      @ Bunk X:
      Yeah the policy we have is around 150/year


    39. 43 | November 13, 2018 11:56 pm

      @ The Barbarian:
      I was cutting grass for neighbors at 14.

      One told me to help myself to whatever was in the garage refrigerator (Budweiser). I didn’t.

      Another was a dance instructor married to a 10-foot tall 400 lb. concrete contractor. She liked to sun herself (topless) while I was mowing and trimming.


    40. 44 | November 14, 2018 2:14 am

      @ Possum:
      No dice unless you clip your toenails. I threw you out last time because of that, remember? The missus was pissed about your snoring.


    41. Possum
      45 | November 14, 2018 4:33 am

      Bunk X wrote:

      @ Possum:
      No dice unless you clip your toenails. I threw you out last time because of that, remember? The missus was pissed about your snoring.

      Toenails are clipped now.

      Also I have lost the ability to sleep so the snoring thing is no longer a problem.

      I wish I could have just one very long last sleep.


    42. RIX
      46 | November 14, 2018 8:20 am

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2s0RPrdB_8
      What day is it? Hump Day!


    43. RIX
      47 | November 14, 2018 9:36 am

      Just an observation on CNN inverted logic.
      Jim Acosta has some mysterious Contitutional right to be a smarmy dolt to blow up presidential press conferences.
      He is guaranteed his hard pass!
      But, the president does not enjoy his 1st Amendment privilege if he exercises it to criticize CNN.
      Strange logic.


    44. 48 | November 14, 2018 9:45 am

      @ lobo91:

      She’s going to find herself on some agricultural committee that gets no media attention. The “Punishment” Committee. Her problem is the idiot has become an incredible attention whore. She’s going to want to see herself on TV and be interviewed.

      Her real problem is piss off the leadership enough and they’ll have your opponent in the primary all lined up and fully funded for 2020. And you’ll have no base for the campaign donations that you’re going to need. The Brooklyn Brunch hipster crowd isn’t going to be forking over the big bucks to you. But Jeff Bezos is going to remember what you did and will be happy to write checks to your opponent.


    45. 49 | November 14, 2018 9:47 am

      @ eaglesoars:

      I believe that’s the Paradise Camp Wildfire. PG&E has been cited as the source of that one, and if I recall, it was sparks from a transformer.


    46. eaglesoars
      50 | November 14, 2018 10:48 am

      @ The Barbarian:

      Ah yes, thank you.

      Been thinking about the CNN lawsuit against the WH. I don’t think their legal team (Ted Olsen? Srsly?) has advised them well.

      Like when the WH, in the discovery process, sends them the preservation order for all emails that contain certain words (THAT list will put a CVS receipt to shame) and then turn them all over to the defense.

      “Did you check out FLOTUS BUTT in those jeans??”. From Don Lemon.


    47. 51 | November 14, 2018 2:33 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      And Fox spokesidiot advises they’ll be filing an Amicus brief.
      Uh, Amicus briefs are for appeals, you idiot. Not for underlying actions. And you have to petition the court to file one. You don’t waltz into the District Court and hand your brief to the clerk.

      I’m looking to see the results of the hearing before Judge Kelly this a.m. Personally, I don’t see where Acosta has a Constitutional right to a press pass. There are something like 3 hard press passes to CNN so they are not prejudiced because the disrupting piece of crap isn’t in the room. Also, it sets a dangerous precedent telling the White House who they have to tolerate. Not only that, how can the White House then deny ANYONE a press pass?

      In fact, if Acosta gets his press pass back, I would simply refuse to call on him. He’s nothing but a disruptive little punk.


    48. 52 | November 14, 2018 2:49 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      And Fox spokesidiot advises they’ll be filing an Amicus brief.
      Uh, Amicus briefs are for appeals, you idiot. Not for underlying actions. And you have to petition the court to file one. You don’t waltz into the District Court and hand your brief to the clerk.

      I’m looking to see the results of the hearing before Judge Kelly this a.m. Personally, I don’t see where Acosta has a Constitutional right to a press pass. There are something like 3 hard press passes to CNN so they are not prejudiced because the disrupting piece of crap isn’t in the room. Also, it sets a dangerous precedent telling the White House who they have to tolerate. Not only that, how can the White House then deny ANYONE a press pass?

      In fact, if Acosta gets his press pass back, I would simply refuse to call on him. He’s nothing but a disruptive little punk.

      Fox and CNN are playing Theater of the Absurd for public consumption in an attempt to move the Overton Window of Public Perception with regard to President Trump.

      Their actions tell you how desperate they are. Why are they desperate? Perhaps this will make it clear.

      Poll: 72% Blame Media for ‘Dividing Americans, Spreading Hate’

      https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2018/11/14/poll-72-blame-media-for-dividing-americans-spreading-hate/

      Seventy-two percent of Americans blame the media for dividing the country and spreading hate, according to the Washington Examiner.

      “Nearly three-quarters of the country believes that the media is ‘dividing Americans’ along political, racial, and gender lines, a stunning condemnation of the press, according to a new national survey,” the outlet writes.

      A fewer number of Americans, two-thirds, say the same about President Trump, the Zogby poll found.

      The pollster found that those polled “felt the mainstream media spreads hate and misunderstanding, also felt that President Trump is responsible for the spread of hate and misunderstanding, but more voters overall, and in most sub-groups, blame the media slightly more!”

      Even a majority of Democrats, 51 percent, agree.

      Now you can pretty safely bet that the 2/3rds mentioned by Zogby are not an evenly spread cross section of American’s. That their inclusion in the Washington Examiner article was exclusively placed there as propaganda to discredit Trump and minimize the damage done by the actual poll results, which clearly indicate that the American people believe President Trump’s assertions that the mainstream media are Fake News.

      This is why even Fox News is in meltdown mode.


    49. 53 | November 14, 2018 3:16 pm

      So, Pink’s husband Carey Hart has a message for Looters in Malibu – you will be shot on sight:

      https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/11/14/pinks-husband-carey-hart-has-a-2nd-amendment-message-for-looters-in-malibu/

      I suggest the buckaroo examine California law. You aren’t in Texas, buddy. You aren’t even in a state that believes in Liberty. You’re in California. You only get to use deadly force if you are in danger of your life, and even then you probably need to be shot FIRST before you fire back.


    50. eaglesoars
      54 | November 14, 2018 3:32 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      I suggest the buckaroo examine California law.

      At this point, there is no law and I’d do the same. You scoot or I shoot.

      doriangrey wrote:

      Now you can pretty safely bet that the 2/3rds mentioned by Zogby are not an evenly spread cross section of American’s.

      excellent point.


    51. 55 | November 14, 2018 3:44 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      Oh no, don’t get me wrong – I completely agree that if someone is ransacking your home and stealing your property you damn well should be allowed to shoot them.

      However, this guy is all tough guy talk and he’s not aware that we don’t have the Castle doctrine in California. Hell, in this state, if an illegal tries to rob you and you shoot him, you’re screwed because he or his effing family can then take you to court and sue you for millions of dollars for trying to kill him because of his immigration status.


    52. eaglesoars
      56 | November 14, 2018 3:50 pm

      @ The Barbarian:

      well, you can always pray for The Big One, as SMOD shows no sign of arriving anytime soon.

      I think there are now about 7-8 elections at the state level that have been moved from the R column to the D due to miraculously ‘found’ ballots.

      2020 battlespace prep.


    53. 57 | November 14, 2018 4:19 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      State level where? You mean for state offices?


    54. 58 | November 14, 2018 4:47 pm

      Libs are self-righteously saying on Twitter that if Acosta doesn’t get his press pass back, all journalists should boycott the Pressers. Ha! Do they think Trump or Sarah give a crap whether they show up or not.

      Hell, I say tell them, fine, if you don’t want to cover the pressers, then please turn in your badges and we’ll re-issue them to outlets that do. I’d love a press room filled with the likes of Alex Marlowe, Dana Loesch, et al. instead of the DNC stenography pool.


    55. rain of lead
      59 | November 14, 2018 5:31 pm

      https://www.weaselzippers.us/402745-horror-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-already-experiencing-sexist-oppression-in-d-c/

      People keep giving me directions to the spouse and intern events instead of the ones for members of Congress ‍♀️

      *blink**blink*

      Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!


    56. 60 | November 14, 2018 5:34 pm

      rain of lead wrote:

      https://www.weaselzippers.us/402745-horror-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-already-experiencing-sexist-oppression-in-d-c/

      People keep giving me directions to the spouse and intern events instead of the ones for members of Congress ‍

      *blink**blink*

      Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

      I’ll take “Things That Never Happened But Maybe Will Get Me Back on TV” for $400, Alex…

      That….or they said “this is a dimwit – must be some intern daughter of a big donor”.


    57. yenta-fada
      62 | November 14, 2018 6:13 pm

      Crazy eyes calls this her ‘squad’. The laws of natural attraction.

      https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-05Vp3VYHOOA/W-wQRdDLsoI/AAAAAAABxZA/AFJP7kHfmrYU1wYsfWjU1Nz5-u-tCaXxwCHMYCw/s1600-h/freshman%2Bclass%255B3%255D


    58. yenta-fada
      63 | November 14, 2018 6:19 pm

      @ yenta-fada:

      I think the one wearing the schmata on her head married her brother for a while, but don’t quote me. I’m ready to turn this blog into a tabloid. The ‘real’ world is full of people saying things like “After I divorced my third wife…” You just know there is no good ending to that lead in.


    59. 64 | November 14, 2018 6:20 pm

      Oh please let this be true….

      https://www.chicksonright.com/blog/2018/11/14/avenatti-arrested/

      It’s from TMZ. Because scandal knows no political party to Harvey Levin:

      Michael Avenatti, who became famous for representing Stormy Daniels in her battle with President Trump, has been arrested for felony domestic violence … law enforcement sources tell TMZ.

      Our law enforcement sources say Avenatti was arrested Wednesday after his estranged wife filed a felony DV report. We’re told her face was “swollen and bruised.”

      Oh, and conviction of Domestic Violence? Can get you suspended or disbarred.


    60. 65 | November 14, 2018 6:21 pm

      @ yenta-fada:

      What will they call themselves, do you think? The Anti-Semite Caucus?

      By the way, Congresswoman Crazy Eyes – “Squad” sort of implies THEY answer to YOU.


    61. eaglesoars
      66 | November 14, 2018 6:26 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      @ eaglesoars:

      State level where? You mean for state offices?

      both state and fed. There was one in NM where they pulled 8000 votes out of somebody’s ass


    62. yenta-fada
      67 | November 14, 2018 6:27 pm

      @ The Barbarian:

      I was thinking “coven”. The first witch looks pretty wild eyed too.
      Or…

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a3391856475322ab8e07a2025eb8bf5fe16ee1cb587b41758ed102e867d38bce.png


    63. eaglesoars
      68 | November 14, 2018 6:29 pm

      yenta-fada wrote:

      @ yenta-fada:

      I think the one wearing the schmata on her head married her brother for a while, but don’t quote me. I’m ready to turn this blog into a tabloid. The ‘real’ world is full of people saying things like “After I divorced my third wife…” You just know there is no good ending to that lead in.

      she did marry her brother which makes her guilty of immigration fraud. she’s on record being very anti-Israel. One of the squad is a Pali-American, Taib somebody, nuff said, and the other one is from Massachusetts who thinks she sounds like Martin Luther King but she comes across like Farakahn.


    64. yenta-fada
      69 | November 14, 2018 6:36 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      I’m certain they have a Jew problem. I’d say Nazi, but it’s over used(and over practiced)


    65. Possum
      70 | November 14, 2018 6:43 pm

      Today I had an intimate sexual experience. First one for many years.

      OK men in here, stop laughing!

      🙂


    66. eaglesoars
      71 | November 14, 2018 7:18 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      Michael Avenatti, who became famous for representing Stormy Daniels in her battle with President Trump, has been arrested for felony domestic violence … law enforcement sources tell TMZ.

      Our law enforcement sources say Avenatti was arrested Wednesday after his estranged wife filed a felony DV report. We’re told her face was “swollen and bruised.”

      Wouldn’t it be great if the charges are false, he was set up, and nobody ever believes in his innocence, his whole life is destroyed?


    67. coldwarrior
      72 | November 14, 2018 8:12 pm

      https://trailstoalesbrewery.com/menu/

      Yeah, I ordered the hummus this time…garlic bomb@


    68. AZfederalist
      73 | November 14, 2018 9:01 pm

      If a criminal trial, voir dire will involve one inevitable question. “Would you believe the testimony of a police officer over the testimony of a conflicting witness?”

      Wouldn’t have worked on the one jury I was called up for. The defendant was a former cop, his character witnesses were cops, the prosecution witnesses were cops.

      /Who ya’ going to believe? Didn’t even get that question.


    69. Aussie Infidel
      74 | November 14, 2018 9:38 pm

      doriangrey wrote:

      Do not be deceived, California is not burning to the ground on accident. This so called wildfire problem here, is all about land, and population density control.

      Every time one of these areas burn to the ground, the average property parcel size decreases and the areas population density increases. Do not get this fucked up, this is not on accident.

      The areas in the state with the highest population densities are virtually immune from these kinds of wildfire events. There is a reason for that. TAXES.

      They are just doing the bidding of Agenda 21 what laid out the requirements for densification of human populations to enable State control. Ideally the Agenda 21 folks want everyone living in vertical slums, dependant on the State for their food and utilities. They are then a slave population.


    70. coldwarrior
      75 | November 14, 2018 10:19 pm

      Possum wrote:

      Today I had an intimate sexual experience. First one for many years.

      OK men in here, stop laughing!

      😆

      what did they say?


    71. coldwarrior
      76 | November 14, 2018 10:23 pm

      Aussie Infidel wrote:

      They are just doing the bidding of Agenda 21 what laid out the requirements for densification of human populations to enable State control. Ideally the Agenda 21 folks want everyone living in vertical slums, dependant on the State for their food and utilities. They are then a slave population.

      those folks need to come out here to the middle of nowhere, yeah…
      the locals are armed and like being left alone.


    72. coldwarrior
      78 | November 14, 2018 10:28 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      both state and fed. There was one in NM where they pulled 8000 votes out of somebody’s ass

      did they check for a rectal bleed in he ER after that?

      rectal paper cuts are a medical emergency


    73. coldwarrior
      79 | November 14, 2018 10:35 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      So, Pink’s husband Carey Hart has a message for Looters in Malibu – you will be shot on sight:

      https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/11/14/pinks-husband-carey-hart-has-a-2nd-amendment-message-for-looters-in-malibu/

      I suggest the buckaroo examine California law. You aren’t in Texas, buddy. You aren’t even in a state that believes in Liberty. You’re in California. You only get to use deadly force if you are in danger of your life, and even then you probably need to be shot FIRST before you fire back.

      texas? hell.

      in PA we are stand your ground full blown castle doctrine with ‘shall issue’ laws for concealed and free open carry, no one does open carry that tho because it is stupid and not polite.

      you will be aerated here.


    74. 80 | November 15, 2018 1:09 am

      @ Possum:
      You’ll be alright. You have a testicle wart that needs culled from the herd.


    75. 81 | November 15, 2018 1:11 am

      @ Possum:
      First time I had sex was at 12. I was nervous and scared. Hell, I was all alone.


    76. Buckeye Abroad
      82 | November 15, 2018 4:10 am

      Possum wrote:

      Today I had an intimate sexual experience. First one for many years.

      Sounds like every middle-aged married guy I know.


    77. 83 | November 15, 2018 8:35 am

      Oh yea…. Campi Flegrei the super volcano in Italy that is now known to be responsible for wiping out the Neanderthal is apparently preparing to erupt again. Until very recently most scientists were at a loss to explain the extinction of humanity’s closest surviving cousin, the Neanderthal. Research just a dozen years ago proved that an eruption of the Campi Flegrei super volcano blanketed the Neanderthal living environment in up to 140 feet of ash.

      In effect the Campi Flegrei super volcano treated the Neanderthal to a mass extinction level event preview of what Mount Vesuvius would some38 thousand years later do to the Roman vacation hot spot, Pompeii. The Neanderthals that weren’t outright killed by the volcano were starved to death by the loss of gamein their territory.

      https://www.newsweek.com/campi-flegrei-magma-building-beneath-dangerous-supervolcano-could-signal-huge-1213424


    78. eaglesoars
      84 | November 15, 2018 9:03 am

      I didn’t know about this. The Battle of Athens, Tenn, 1946. The residents had suffered under a gov’t elected fraudulently for years, and when no help came from the Feds….they got their guns.

      https://www.commonsenseevaluation.com/2018/11/15/the-battle-of-athens/


    79. 85 | November 15, 2018 10:41 am

      eaglesoars wrote:

      The Barbarian wrote:

      Michael Avenatti, who became famous for representing Stormy Daniels in her battle with President Trump, has been arrested for felony domestic violence … law enforcement sources tell TMZ.

      Our law enforcement sources say Avenatti was arrested Wednesday after his estranged wife filed a felony DV report. We’re told her face was “swollen and bruised.”

      Wouldn’t it be great if the charges are false, he was set up, and nobody ever believes in his innocence, his whole life is destroyed?

      Funny you should say that. He’s all over Twitter saying he was “set up” and that he should be given the presumption of innocence.”

      To which we are all replying: “Brett Kavanaugh said to say ‘Karma – it’s what’s for dinner’.”


    80. 86 | November 15, 2018 10:48 am

      Levin read the Administration’s answering brief in the CNN suit on his show last night. WOW. Compared to the juvenile effort by Acosta’s attorney. In a maneuver the best lawyers make, they actually took CNN’s controlling legal case and turned it 180 against them.

      Ted Olson. Jeez Dude, you were the Solicitor General. What the hell is WRONG with you. That brief would have been embarrassing as a research project for a 2L.


    81. eaglesoars
      87 | November 15, 2018 10:58 am

      Another brilliant idea from Bernie, Kirsten and Spartacus. This is just the part that’s not behind a paywall (WSJ).

      gov’t guaranteed jobs for everybody

      Forget for a moment about “Medicare for All.” A proposal is gaining steam on the left that would overhaul the U.S. economy in a far more radical way. Known as a federal job guarantee, the plan would require the government to provide work on demand to any American at a minimum of about $12 an hour plus full benefits.

      https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-dangerous-fantasy-of-a-jobs-guarantee-1542239737


    82. 88 | November 15, 2018 12:48 pm

      Well, we’ve lost California 10….

      Josh Harder, a bigger piece of s**t and Pelosi stooge that cannot be imagined, has defeated Jeff Denham. Once reliably Republican, the fact that liberals moving out into the Valley from high-rent San Francisco have turned it blue.

      It’s a shame. Now the Valley people have lost the voice they once had in Congress. Harder believes in abortion up to birth and pocketed millions off the ACA.


    83. Aussie Infidel
      89 | November 15, 2018 2:53 pm

      eaglesoars wrote:

      I didn’t know about this. The Battle of Athens, Tenn, 1946. The residents had suffered under a gov’t elected fraudulently for years, and when no help came from the Feds….they got their guns.

      https://www.commonsenseevaluation.com/2018/11/15/the-battle-of-athens/

      Ever we colonials from the ends of the Earth knew about the Battle of Athens. Returned servicemen didn’t take the electoral shit that was being served to them and reacted as servicemen do!

      🙂

      It certainly got the attention of the Feds as well !


    84. coldwarrior
      90 | November 15, 2018 3:22 pm

      Roy Clark passed. A real talent


    85. eaglesoars
      91 | November 15, 2018 4:25 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      Well, we’ve lost California 10….

      Josh Harder, a bigger piece of s**t and Pelosi stooge that cannot be imagined, has defeated Jeff Denham. Once reliably Republican, the fact that liberals moving out into the Valley from high-rent San Francisco have turned it blue.

      It’s a shame. Now the Valley people have lost the voice they once had in Congress. Harder believes in abortion up to birth and pocketed millions off the ACA.


      #BREAKING on @OANN: Democrat Katie Porter is projected to defeat incumbent Republican Rep. Mimi Walters in California’s 45th district. #OANN #CA45

      https://twitter.com/alexsalvinews/status/1063166398019514368


    86. eaglesoars
      92 | November 15, 2018 4:33 pm

      Or favorite cruise director, Bill Kristol, has started a new political group to lobby against Whitaker, “Republicans for the Rule of Law” and they’re buying a lot of TV ad time. Not cheap. Look who one of the $$$ bags is. I’m sure you’ll be surprised.

      progressive billionaire Pierre Omidyar, the co-founder of eBay….One of Omidyar’s nonprofits is the Democracy Fund. In 2015, the Democracy Fund awarded nearly $9 million in grants, “many of which went to left-wing organizations.” One Democracy Fund recipient is currently in court fighting the results of the Georgia gubernatorial race, which was won by Republican Brian Kemp.

      An affiliate of that fund disclosed on its website that it has given as least $600,000 to Kristol’s umbrella group, Defending Democracy Together, since May. (Other NeverTrumpers involved in the group are author Mona Charen, strategist Linda Chavez, and former governor Christine Todd Whitman.) Republicans for the Rule of Law operates under the purview of Defending Democracy Together.

      lots more at the link. A lot of names too.

      https://www.amgreatness.com/2018/11/14/nevertrumps-billionaire-leftist-benefactors/


    87. RIX
      93 | November 15, 2018 4:34 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      Roy Clark passed. A real talent

      He was a great picker and real talent.
      This one is thought provoking.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQIAcztYjbc


    88. RIX
      94 | November 15, 2018 4:44 pm

      https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/11/15/you-mad-bro-michael-avenatti-decries-tmzs-standard-gets-pelted-with-tiny-violins/
      @ Twitchy
      Oh this is rich. Avenatti thinks that he is being victimized by poor standards for accusations.
      Hmm, how does it feel?
      He will soon claim that he is being victimized as a black trans-gender woman with a physical disability and a Purerto Rican surname.


    89. 95 | November 15, 2018 4:47 pm

      @ RIX:

      I can’t decide whether it’s Chutzpah or Schadenfreude at this point.


    90. eaglesoars
      96 | November 15, 2018 4:56 pm

      It should be interesting to see what they come up with.

      Fed plans review of how it pursues inflation, employment goals

      In the wake of the 2007-2009 financial crisis and recession, the Fed leaned on powerful but unconventional tools such as purchases of trillions of dollars of bonds and promises of near-zero interest rates over extended periods. It also began publishing individual policymakers’ anonymous forecasts for future rate hikes and key economic metrics.

      While no changes are guaranteed, all of that could be up for debate by not just economists and investors but also workers, employers and civic leaders

      ‘civic leaders’


    91. RIX
      97 | November 15, 2018 5:12 pm

      The Barbarian wrote:

      @ RIX:

      I can’t decide whether it’s Chutzpah or Schadenfreude at this point.

      I hear that, but it is karma.


    92. eaglesoars
      98 | November 15, 2018 6:40 pm

      Broward country was 2 minutes late getting their numbers in so the Sec. State rejected them. They’ll use the ‘earlier’ numbers.

      I have no idea what those counts were


    93. Possum
      99 | November 15, 2018 7:00 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      Possum wrote:

      Today I had an intimate sexual experience. First one for many years.

      OK men in here, stop laughing!

      what did they say?

      Can’t find anything by groping my nuts. Ultrasound on Monday and blood tests.

      I hope ultrasound tickles, I need a good laugh!

      Oh, I wonder if they will give me pictures like they do with women and babies.

      Can’t hurt to ask. 🙂

      Anyway, looking on the bright side, all this extra hair all over me is great for keeping me warm in the freezing Texas weather….


    94. eaglesoars
      100 | November 15, 2018 7:20 pm

      gawd. a manual recount.


    95. eaglesoars
      101 | November 15, 2018 8:32 pm

      Did anyone know about this?

      , a mob of Somali Muslim men and boys rushed the entrance to Valleyfair, a family amusement park that had set aside the day to honor law enforcement in Minnesota.

      The mob overcame security, jumping fences avoiding metal detectors while bringing in weapons. It was a direct, premeditated attack on police and security. Backup had to be called in along with fire trucks, ambulances and even a police helicopter. This attack should be understood as a “dry run” test (in counterterrorism parlance)….

      This happened in Sept. In Nov the little jihadi bitch Illan Omar was elected to Congress.

      People REALLY aren’t paying attention.

      https://clarionproject.org/you-didnt-hear-about-this-mob-attack-in-minnesota/


    96. coldwarrior
      102 | November 15, 2018 8:36 pm

      new thread, take it over there.

      😉


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