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  • End of the week Open and NEMJ Letter

    by coldwarrior ( 38 Comments › )
    Filed under Medicine, Open thread at October 3rd, 2019 - 7:51 pm

    Enjoy this open.

    Info on histology of vaping injury to lung tissue from Mayo Clinic via NEMJ Letters:

    Pathology of Vaping-Associated Lung Injury

    To date, few reports of vaping-associated lung injury have included histopathological findings. Our cases corroborate many of these descriptions and provide some preliminary insight into the pathogenesis of this injury. Much recent attention has been given to the possibility that vaping-associated lung injury may represent exogenous lipoid pneumonia.3 However, none of our cases showed histologic evidence of exogenous lipoid pneumonia and no radiologic evidence thereof has been found2; this calls into question the diagnostic utility of identifying lipid-laden macrophages or performing oil red O staining on bronchioloalveolar lavage fluid as a marker of vaping-associated lung injury, as has been proposed.3,4 The significance of this observation remains unclear, particularly in patients with a known vaping history; until more data accumulate, our observations suggest that this finding should be interpreted with caution, as it may simply be a marker of exposure and not necessarily a marker of toxicity. Although it is difficult to discount the potential role of lipid, we believe that the histologic changes instead suggest that vaping-associated lung injury represents a form of airway-centered chemical pneumonitis from one or more inhaled toxic substances rather than exogenous lipoid pneumonia as such, but the agents responsible remain unknown.

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    38 Responses to “End of the week Open and NEMJ Letter”
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    1. rain of lead
      1 | October 3, 2019 8:55 pm

      vaping cut rate thc oil…is bad…M’kay

      oh cw, the girl has suddenly become a hockey fan
      we’re watching the pred vs the wild


    2. rain of lead
      2 | October 3, 2019 9:00 pm

      oh look, keith urban is playing


    3. rain of lead
      3 | October 3, 2019 9:22 pm

      1-0 preds


    4. RIX
      4 | October 3, 2019 9:25 pm

      https://www.dailywire.com/news/woman-snaps-at-aoc-over-climate-start-eating-babies-we-only-have-a-few-months-left
      @ Daily Wire
      You have got to see this. At an AOC town Hall a woman goes into a hysterical rant about eating babies to combat
      climate change. In my opinion this is a first class trolling. The interesting thing is that AOC is not repulsed.


    5. rain of lead
      5 | October 3, 2019 9:34 pm

      @ RIX:

      Ocasio-Cortez’s response to this woman: “Luckily we have more than a few months. We need to hit net zero in several years”

      Notice how AOC does *not* say, “we should not be killing and eating babies” https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1179908480322289664

      feature not bug I guess


    6. rain of lead
      6 | October 3, 2019 9:37 pm

      John Roberts confirms WH will send a letter to Pelosi saying administration doesn’t have to comply with any demands from Congress unless Hse votes to launch an impeachment inquiry.


    7. RIX
      7 | October 3, 2019 9:39 pm

      @ rain of lead:
      Yeah,that’s my point, it doesn’t phase AOC. She is weapons grade stupid.


    8. rain of lead
      8 | October 3, 2019 9:45 pm

      1-1 tie game


    9. rain of lead
      9 | October 3, 2019 9:47 pm

      whoops
      2-1 minnesota


    10. rain of lead
      10 | October 3, 2019 10:10 pm

      2-2 back to zero


    11. rain of lead
      11 | October 3, 2019 10:13 pm

      3-2 preds


    12. rain of lead
      12 | October 3, 2019 10:21 pm

      4-2 preds


    13. rain of lead
      13 | October 3, 2019 10:33 pm

      *Greta opens Twitter*
      *Sees #EatTheBabies trending*
      *Closes twitter*
      Greta: Mom, I may have made a mistake
      *Mom sharpens knife*
      Greta: How dare you.


    14. rain of lead
      14 | October 4, 2019 7:33 am

      Good morning!

      Let’s smile and be happy and strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.


    15. lobo91
      16 | October 4, 2019 8:56 am

      Paul Sperry
      ‏ @paulsperry_

      BREAKING: The whistleblower is a registered Democrat & CIA analyst who was detailed before the 2016 election to the Obama White House,where he worked on the NSC’s Ukraine desk & met w anti-Trump Ukrainian officials before being sent packing by the Trump NSC & becoming disgruntled
      6:32 PM – 3 Oct 2019


    16. coldwarrior
      17 | October 4, 2019 9:10 am

      @ lobo91:

      😆
      😆
      😆
      😆
      😆
      😆

      FAIL!!!!!


    17. coldwarrior
      18 | October 4, 2019 9:11 am

      rain of lead wrote:

      oh cw, the girl has suddenly become a hockey fan
      we’re watching the pred vs the wild

      a great sport.

      wanna borrow some stanley cups? 😉


    18. rain of lead
      19 | October 4, 2019 9:25 am

      @ coldwarrior:

      I think it’s better if we earn them


    19. coldwarrior
      20 | October 4, 2019 9:28 am

      rain of lead wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:

      I think it’s better if we earn them

      its a good start.


    20. 21 | October 4, 2019 9:51 am

      Everytime I hear Hildebeest snot that Trump is an “illegitimate” President because she won the popular vote, I am loathe to point out to her that the only reason Bill Clinton was in the White House in 1992 and 1996 was because of the Electoral College. He won a plurality of the vote; ergo, a MAJORITY of Americans DIDN’T want him to be President.


    21. coldwarrior
      22 | October 4, 2019 9:56 am

      Never joke with canadians about the stanley cup.

      the year after the penguins won the cup for the second time (1993), my friend and i were going to canada for some fun. well.

      we pulled into the border crossing and the friendly canadian border officer asks my friend, who is driving, ‘where are you from?’

      my friend says…’Pittsburgh, ya know, where they keep the stanley cup.’

      the friendly canadian border officer got a scowl on his face and said, dripping with anger, ‘bay 3’

      they tore his car apart.


    22. coldwarrior
      23 | October 4, 2019 9:58 am

      @ The Barbarian:
      reality does not matter to these people

      the left is stuck inside a self feeding loop.


    23. 25 | October 4, 2019 10:14 am

      @ coldwarrior:
      It’s because of Obama, not Trump.

      /////


    24. eaglesoars
      26 | October 4, 2019 2:44 pm

      Hello! I think summer is finally over. Mid-70s for weeks coming up

      You may have read that Ambassador Volker’s Congressional remarks have completely discombubulated the Democrats. Sean Davis, of The Federalist, bless, him got his grubby hands on them and put them on the innernut.

      Enjoy

      https://www.scribd.com/document/428765582/Full-Statement-from-U-S-Ukraine-Envoy-Ambassador-Kurt-Volker-on-October-3-2019


    25. coldwarrior
      27 | October 4, 2019 2:50 pm

      right_wing2 wrote:

      @ coldwarrior:
      It’s because of Obama, not Trump.

      /////

      ORANGE MAN BAD!!!!


    26. coldwarrior
      28 | October 4, 2019 2:51 pm

      @ eaglesoars:
      are the dems trying to lose in 2020?

      what are they going to run on?


    27. coldwarrior
      29 | October 4, 2019 3:14 pm

      marketwatch had a blurb in the job reports that said that some economist see the jobs/hiring numbers as a lagging indicator.

      i damn near choked on my cigar.

      of course, they didn’t name any of them.

      maybe undergrad dual majors ex-bartenders from boston college see it that way.


    28. coldwarrior
      30 | October 4, 2019 3:16 pm

      Many economists say the employment report is a lagging indicator and they will be watching for readings over the next few months before giving an “all-clear” sign for the economy.

      https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-adds-136000-jobs-in-september-unemployment-rate-hits-50-year-low-2019-10-04

      imagine how this article would be written if a dem were in office.


    29. eaglesoars
      31 | October 4, 2019 3:17 pm

      coldwarrior wrote:

      what are they going to run on?

      I’m actually a bit concerned about that. Nothing they’ve tried so far has worked but they won’t quit. The media is their bitch (are their bitches? whatever)

      I think they will keep trying fantastical scenarios in the knowledge the MSM will run with them and hope that either the cumulative weight of them will be
      enough to create fatigue/skepticism AND/OR whatever cooked-up scandal they’ve got going at the time will not be debunked in time for the voting.

      ERik Erikson, aka Fat Punk, ran with a story the other day that ‘some’ Trump supporters he had spoken to were expressing fatigue. My first response was that I don’t put up with imaginary ‘some’ people from the Left either, the second was if these people really exist to suck it up or get the fuck out of my foxhole. But now the idea of ‘fatigued Trump supporters’ is out there.


    30. eaglesoars
      32 | October 4, 2019 3:19 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      SEE??!!

      ‘some’, ‘many’, blah blah blah

      That’s just a device to get a narrative out there.


    31. 33 | October 4, 2019 3:24 pm

      @ coldwarrior:

      I think it was going to be a variation on Orange Man Bad and Colluded With Russians (because Mueller was still investigating) so give us the House and Senate.

      This time was going to be Orange Man Bad and Needs to Be Impeached – Give us the Senate to He’ll Be Removed From Office.

      The big trouble for them is that they listened to that nimrod Schifty, who has lied to them over and over again in order to keep himself on TV.


    32. 34 | October 4, 2019 3:27 pm

      @ eaglesoars:

      I don’t know anyone that even listens to Erickson anymore. Rush booted him from the guest host list and I think RedState also asked him to get lost. He said he “resigned” but he’s pretty much in oblivion with conservatives as far as I can see on Twitter. Maybe he and Billy Kristol and crying in their beers together.


    33. coldwarrior
      35 | October 4, 2019 3:29 pm

      @ The Barbarian:

      neither of them are man enough too drink beer.


    34. coldwarrior
      36 | October 4, 2019 3:32 pm

      @ The Barbarian:
      trump thrives on this stuff. hes at his best when he has a foil.


    35. 37 | October 4, 2019 4:21 pm

      @ coldwarrior:
      Batshit insanity?


    36. coldwarrior
      38 | October 4, 2019 5:00 pm

      New thread


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