you can never to get herd immunity like this
Aussies Locked Down
by coldwarrior ( 172 Comments › )Filed under Open thread at August 3rd, 2020 - 10:34 am
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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
couldnt happen to a nicer bunch of hypocrites.
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/nba-mlb-ratings-disaster/
@ coldwarrior:
they can all – every frigging sport – ask me if I want fries with that…’cept rugby. And I guess cricket as I haven’t seen any assholes there yet.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/unhinged-woman-throws-coffee-two-men-not-wearing-masks-boyfriend-gets-ass-beat-bloody-video/
@ Gateway Pundit
A Karen and her soy boyfriend fail to fully comprehend their situation.
A largely unreported coronavirus symptom seems to be turning “libertarians” into authoritarians almost instantly.
coldwarrior wrote:
My favorite comment by an intellectual athlete was an NFL D back explaining why he kneels,
“I don’t agree wit da Declaration of da Constitution.”
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
oh well done!
RIX wrote:
not NEARLY enough blood
eaglesoars wrote:
the rugby and cricket guys are mostly from upper classes…
juss sayin….
eaglesoars wrote:
I am sure that the Karen and her boyfriend do not consider throwing a cup of hot coffee in someone’s face assault.
Boy did they eff up.
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/08/03/new-york-times-op-ed-lets-scrap-the-presidential-debates/
the fear is palpable.
@ coldwarrior:
rugby? really? who knew?
RIX wrote:
Oh I’m sure they do. I’m also sure they think they have every right to do it.
dammit. We won’t continue w/ADT when we move
Google to buy 6.6% stake in ADT in home security push
(Reuters) – Alphabet Inc’s (GOOGL.O) Google is buying a 6.6% stake in home security firm ADT Inc (ADT.N) for $450 million in a deal that will allow it to provide service to customers of its Nest home security devices.
Shares of ADT nearly doubled to $17 in trading before the bell on Monday and were set to open above their IPO price of $14 for the first time since going public in 2018.
The companies will work to combine Google and Nest products with its installation, service and professional monitoring network, ADT said
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-google-adt-stake/google-to-buy-6-6-stake-in-adt-in-home-security-push-idUSKBN24Z1A6
Travelers assigned me a claims adjuster out of BALTIMORE.
She still hasn’t contacted me, and hasn’t responded to calls or email. Phone doesn’t even ring.
*sigh*
eaglesoars wrote:
Rugby is a hooligans sport supported by gentlemen.
Soccer is a gentleman’s sport supported by hooligans.
Rugby is played at the more elite schools in the English speaking world.
The divergent history of the two sports is fascinating. Soccer is played by the world’s poor. Rugby by the more wealthy.
Cricket…well, rather!
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/records-prince-andrews-location-night-molestation-destroyed-police
Two sets of laws.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/republican-voter-registration-outpacing-democrats-factor-five
Silent majority
coldwarrior wrote:
yeah, but the Dems have the cemeteries and they’re REALLY silent
@ coldwarrior:
oh the other hand……er, paw
North Carolina Bear Spotted With ‘Trump 2020’ Sticker on Collar – Reward Offered to Find Culprit (Seriously)
https://www.redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2020/08/03/north-carolina-bear-spotted-with-trump-2020-sticker-on-collar-reward-offered-to-find-culprit-seriously/
@ eaglesoars:
a bear? ah, i see. that bear is a RUSSIAN!!!
ORANGE MAN BAD!!!!
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/with-eye-on-china-india-looks-to-increase-barriers-on-imports-from-asia/articleshow/77335362.cms
@ coldwarrior:
You have to wonder if China is having 2nd thoughts. They’ve pissed off everybody , people are buying weapons/planes, etc., because they feel so threatened and instead of making friends all China has done is create better armed enemies.
storm coming thru, powering down
@ eaglesoars:
Yinz guys got stomped.
Must stay within 5km (3 mi) radius of home.
Only one person from a household is allowed to shop per day.
No more than one hour of exercise per day and groups limited to two.
Recreational activity is banned.
Curfew from 8 p.m. until 5 a.m.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/check-melbournes-crazy-new-stage-4-cononavirus-lockdown-rules/
@ coldwarrior:
Andrews the hard core socialist Victorian Premier has totally lost it. He’s a complete doofus and everyone knows it but there is no way to get rid of him until the 2022 elections!
Aussie Infidel wrote:
well….um………
coldwarrior wrote:
As long as we don’t lose power or the roof, I love that stuff. Nice and cozy and awesomeness raging outside.
This is a fascinating article on how a slight gene mutation that we have but the great apes don’t (but Neanderthals & Denisovians did) occurred to save us from malarial type diseases – but has left us exposed to a lot of other things
New research has uncovered evidence that mutations arising between 600,000 and 2 million years ago were part of a complex of adaptations that may have inadvertently made us prone to inflammatory diseases and even other pathogens.
An international team of researchers compared around a thousand human genomes with a few from our extinct cousins, the Neanderthals and Denisovans, to fill in missing details on the evolution of a family of chemicals that coat the human body’s cells.
https://www.sciencealert.com/we-evolved-a-way-to-beat-a-deadly-infection-but-it-made-us-vulnerable-to-other-diseases
@ eaglesoars:
Adaptation to something will cause a problem somewhere else
How can one lock Aussies down? Who are the the Australians with the most klout? Paul Hogan? Nicole Kidman? Mel Gibson? New York City, Scientology, and WWF all failed to lock down the anti heros.
I was reading about Merrick Garland a little. And people seem to be implying that a legal standard exists not to create a Supreme Court judge in an election year. To me that is just BS. The reason Merrick Garland failed is that the R’s owned the Senate and expressed political will. No law was violated or set.
If RBG dies this year then the Senate is within its bounds to rush a nomination through if they can. or not. It’s up to whoever holds the senate.
@ darkwords:
Victoria is a notoriously lefty state
Been hearing/reading https://podcastnotes.org/joe-rogan-experience/joe-rogan-experience-1506-james-nestor/
He researched science. The TLDR version is if one is an athlete or has sleep apnea then science says breathing thru the nose is a great benefit.
And that we throw our breathing structures off by not chewing enough hard foods daily.
@ coldwarrior:
yah that is a big disappointment. I always thought I could retreat to Australia if I wanted freedom.
darkwords wrote:
i’m afraid that we are it now. the last bastion
@ darkwords:
They need THE GLADIATOR!!
Russel Crowe
RIX wrote:
Especially not since they were lecturing some dumb redneck rubes on said rubes failure to follow the latest woke trend. Why they were perfectly in the right and performing a public service by educating those dumb rubes.
/Yes, based upon what I’ve read from these liberal idiots, I truly believe that is their thought process.
eaglesoars wrote:
… and with mass universal mail-in voting, they won’t even need the dead.
eaglesoars wrote:
Nope, they took those away decades ago.
darkwords wrote:
Nope, not after they confiscated all the guns. They started being a lost cause with socialized medicine and made their final choice when they disarmed their citizens and made them subjects.
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
Get in touch with the state insurance commission
AZfederalist wrote:
Well, keep in mind that criminals don’t obey laws and Australia was settled by what the Brits considered to be criminals.
Just sayin’
I have just downloaded my 5th Elizabeth George book.
Addiction is a miserable state.
I shall retire for the evening.
@ right_wing2:
Thanks, but we got square.
She apologized. I guess they did some downsizing during Covid and she got swamped. If she needed to do an inspection she said she would reassign me to an independent adjuster more local to me.
I guess they’ve “regionalized” and ALL the Mid Atlantic claims go through Baltimore.
Getting an estimate tomorrow. Probably getting run through Progressive (guy who rear ended me). I can front the deductible, I just want my car fixed ASAP, and I’ve heard how these things can go. I don’t have any rental coverage, and I need it back by the 31st.
coldwarrior wrote:
I was speaking with an old friend recently (from eastern PA, about our age, former Marine officer) and mentioned to me he is thinking about retiring and leaving the US with family in tow. I told him there are no green pastures across the pond and he should consider simply moving to an area of the US with more like minded people instead of staying around DC.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/paniced-scramble-turkey-hikes-lira-overnight-rate-1024-crush-shorts-currency-implodes
Bad things coming for the Turks
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2020/08/04/u-s-factory-orders-rise-more-than-expected-signaling-manufacturing-recovery/
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
If you got rear ended, his insurance needs to provide you a rental car.
coldwarrior wrote:
oh TSK!
A man who works for the post office called into Chris Plante’s show. He said all the PO unions have come out for Biden; it’s worth his job, as a Trump person, to keep his mouth shut; if mail-in ballots are allowed, it’s a guaranteed Biden win because all the Trump votes will never be found.
Axios interviewed Trump, it aired on HBO. I haven’t seen it but the commentary is not good. I found it if you want to watch, I don’t have time. About 37 mins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaaTZkqsaxY
Oh! And it’s the first topic for Rush
There has been a HUGE explosion in Beruit – apparently in a fireworks warehouse or a ship in port carrying fireworks. The video is shocking
https://twitter.com/IsraelBreaking/status/1290679618287083527
Here’s another video. It makes the 1st and secondary explosion much clearer. I don’t know why the 2nd is so red/brown.
https://twitter.com/Doze_Tree/status/1290678662006808577
@ eaglesoars:
That doesn’t look like fireworks warehouse blowing up.
@ coldwarrior:
In the 2nd video, you can see some sparkly stuff in the 1st explosion. Then something ELSE goes KABOOMSKI. Nitrogen? Fertilizer bomb stuff?
oh ffs
Just days after @realDonaldTrump hailed a deal between the Fed gov and Kodak to make ingredients for generic drugs, the @WSJ reports the SEC is investigating circumstances surrounding a $765 million loan from the government to Kodak to make the transition.
https://twitter.com/johnrobertsFox/status/1290692417113534465
@ coldwarrior:
@ eaglesoars:
Purely speculation, but it’s possible that the heat from the fireworks fire set off a large quantity of something else with a high flashpoint.
Largest U.S. Gas Utility Sues California Over Climate Policy
Southern California Gas Co is suing the California Energy Commission over the state’s climate policy and attempts to phase out natural gas as a source of heating and cooking.
Southern California Gas Co, owned by Sempra Energy, is trying to shield itself from policy actions that could ban the hook-up of natural gas for all new homes.
The California Energy Commission, for its part, is promoting building efficiency and emissions-cutting rules for new construction, encouraging home developers to build all-electric buildings in the state.
For example, last year, Berkeley, California, passed an ordinance requiring all new homes to be all-electric with no gas hook-ups beginning in January 2020. Berkeley’s primary motivation for the gas hook-up ban was to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and promote the use of clean energy.
Climate activists say that natural gas is a fossil fuel and is responsible for a large part of emissions from buildings, while natural gas companies are pitching natural gas as an affordable and stable ‘bridge’ fuel toward all-renewable electricity generation.
“Natural gas and renewable gas are clean, affordable, resilient, and reliable sources of energy on which millions of California consumers and businesses depend,” Southern California Gas Co said in its lawsuit, as carried by the Los Angeles Times.
“Natural gas has played a significant role in reducing greenhouse gas emissions and improving air quality,” the company added.
California, New York, and Massachusetts have started the process of phasing out natural gas. In fact, in California, some 30 cities have already banned natural gas in new buildings.
In another California lawsuit over the natural gas phase-out, the California Restaurant Association (CRA) sued the City of Berkeley last year over the ban on the use of natural gas in newly built buildings, in order to protect Berkeley’s businesses and consumers from having to pay higher energy bills.
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Largest-US-Gas-Utility-Sues-California-Over-Climate-Policy.html
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
i’d bet on it.
@ coldwarrior:
Whatever it was being stored in should have had redundant, pressure activated safety valves. Pop offs.
If it was indeed a fuel.
“Chemicals”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/massive-explosion-rocks-beirut-causing-widespread-damage-across-city/
Very interested in which chemicals and how much. That was A LOT of force.
I think this is like murdering your parents and then whining to the court that you’re an orphan
BLM Protesters Sue Seattle, Claim That Expensive Gear To Protect Them From Cops Prices Them Out Of Civil Rights
https://rightwingtribune.com/2020/08/04/protesters-sue-seattle-gear/
Daily Mail has great video/pics of Beirut. Definitely the best video. Headline says 30 dead but updates on twitter are already up to 50
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8592549/Massive-explosion-rocks-Beirut-destroying-buildings.html
@ eaglesoars:
One supposition for the secondary is grain dust explosion. Grain towers were by the primary explosion.
@ PaladinPhil:
Picture of the Grain elevators after the explosion…
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/j_XJLJmb_kweZFveusJnwB-vnu4=/1500×1000/media/img/photo/2020/08/beirut/a13_1227910111/original.jpg
Lebanon’s interior minister says ammonium nitrate likely the cause
https://twitter.com/GavinCoote/status/1290728382699728896
Isn’t that fertilizer?
PaladinPhil wrote:
I’ve seen those, they happen on farms quite a bit. They aren’t like that. There is something about the velocity/shock wave on this one that is entirely different
The best theory so far as to the cause of the explosions comes from Farouk. He says that the Rhosus, a ship flying the Moldovan flag was carrying 2,750 tons of ammonium nitrate to Mozambique, in 2013. It experienced technical difficulties and docked at Beirut.
The owner abandoned the ship, and left the crew stranded. The Lebanese unloaded the material at the port and it remained in the warehouses until today, when it left all by itself.
https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1290745233572061185
2750 TONS??!!
@ eaglesoars:
Nobody knows. I’ve seen three wildly different “best explanations” already.
By tomorrow, it will clearly be Trump’s fault.
eaglesoars wrote:
it is also an ingredient in fieldd expedient explosives like used in OK City…ANFO
eaglesoars wrote:
this crap comes from soccer and participation trophies
@ eaglesoars:
Yes. And when ammonium nitrate comes into contact with an open flame or other ignition source… boom. Oklahoma city bomber used same.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
I think it’s more stable than that, no?
That’s why they use the diesel as a catalyst?
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
Watching the videos, the AN went up a full 20 secs after the 1st explosion. After the 1st explosion, you could see little fires at the base. Open flames are open flames, it will blow.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
yes
Oh! It’s an oxidizer
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://beta-static.fishersci.com/content/dam/fishersci/en_US/documents/programs/education/regulatory-documents/sds/chemicals/chemicals-a/S25160.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiQ76nhuoLrAhXhmnIEHVdoC_QQFjACegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw1iM-D6L3rMP6YgeEBKZ3em
coldwarrior wrote:
sorry….ammonium nitrate – fuel oil
ANFO
@ coldwarrior:
That’s nasty stuff.
right_wing2 wrote:
Fun to mess with
Ok, this year I’m homeschooling my 16 year old so I’m getting a view into how things work. I have found out through the association I joined that things are NOT normal this year. Since there are so many new parents homeschooling this year, the public schools think they can get away with a lot of illegal crap. My district isn’t too bad they only tried to get a little more information than they were allowed by law, but some districts are actually demanding entire schedules and records, entire forms not required by state law, and all kinds of garbage by state law.
To be clear MT state law only requires a letter of intent to homeschool and your childrens immunization records/religious waiver of immunization. Then the next year your letter of intent must include a line stating that your child has completed the mininum required hours of schooling. Some of the counties in the state have panicked over their lessening power with so many parents pulling their kids after this covid stupidity (and the upcoming asinine covid class “restructuring”) and have decided to try and make the process difficult and take advantage of parents who may not be as aware of the law.
During his presser, Trump said some of our generals think Beirut was an attack (altho the Lebanese gov’t is saying it was a welding accident)
An attack to accomplish what? Destroy stuff that’s been there for 6-7 years?
Also, the brown smoke bothered me. I watched videos today of military blowing up about a ton of the AN stuff in Afghanistan. The smoke wasn’t brown.
So – your intrepid researcher went researching.
Start with Iran and explosives. Because why not.
(2016)
Iran announces plan to produce explosives used in missile warheads
Defense minister says country wants to make Octogen to improve ‘destructive power’; material also used in nuke detonators
https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-says-its-planning-to-produce-explosives-used-in-missile-warheads/
I never heard of Octogen BUT
Octogen is HMX and I have heard of HMX
HMX is more complicated to manufacture than most explosives, and this confines it to specialist applications. It may be produced by nitration of hexamine in the presence of acetic anhydride, paraformaldehyde and ammonium nitrate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMX
so I googled ‘HMX brown smoke’ and found this
if the heating rate is slow enough, the sample is observed to melt in bulk and commence vigorous boiling…The liquid is brown in color and quickly disappears in a puff of brown smoke
This is page 42 of a paper, 1989, Naval Weapons Center called Nitromine Composite Solid Propellant Modeling.
https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a220198.pdf
So I dunno, just thought I’d throw that out there.
@ eaglesoars:
hmmmm.
@ Deplorable Martian Overlord:
mine is starting with online and to go back to in person by october.
fine. then we can take the girls to the beach (we missed the trip b/c my radiation treatments).
that said. i will be going to school board meetings and may even run myself if these things don’t improve.
home schooling and cyber bullshit are not the answer. children need each other to socialize and build up their immune systems.
I just checked. The detonation/explosive velocity of AN is about 3000 m/sec, HMX is about 9100 m/sec.
I don’t know how many frames per second all the cell phones generally record at, but if we knew that could the explosive velocity of the 2nd explosion be calculated somehow?
right_wing2 wrote:
Not at all mate. A great Low Explosive that is used everywhere on a daily basis to ‘lift’ a LOT of earth when needed.
A high explosive is often used as an initiator for a massive load of AMFO low explosive.
Theoretically however there should have been a VERY short (imperceptible) period between the two explosions.
@ eaglesoars:
Just a guess, and more will come out later, but this has all the markings of a Hezbollah work accident.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
20 seconds
AZfederalist wrote:
And I’m thinking not a few of the dead will be Iranian
@ eaglesoars:
Look like a lot (2700 tonnes) of ammonium nitrate – yellow/brown fumes and HMX or similar – no black smoke from expected TNT unless it is aluminised. You can even see the shock condensation off the blast. Obviously no rules regarding magazine storage. Thing is, the explosives are usually stable unless initiated by a contained fire or a primer – so someone is playing around. In the 1000’s of tonnes of explosive from the size of it
For crying out loud. These arabs are insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
…. or perhaps … These Iranians are insane !!!!
🙂
coldwarrior wrote:
A family member is on call to give an opinion. He’s subject expert with a PhD in ‘blowing up shit’ from the University of Queensland.
🙂
@ Aussie Infidel:
so you think at least some HMX was possibly involved? Ammonium nitrate does not, in anything I could find, produce smoke that color. I wish I could find it now but there was a post-blast pic showing what appear to be grain silos right next to it still standing. how? Unless somehow it was a directed blast? Everything went UP – not up and out
eaglesoars wrote:
Hmmmm That sounds to me like a contained fore resulting in an uncontrolled ANFO detonation, but I’ll go ask the expert
🙂
Aussie Infidel wrote:
good. ask him about brown smoke.
eaglesoars wrote:
The brown fumes are NOx fumes from the unfuelled ammonium nitrate. Primer could have been 0.5kg of anything, even a contained fire as at Texas City.
Al Jazeera have a video of the blast. Looks like a fire initiated the blast – heaps of whitish smoke rising from the site followed by the explosion.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/08/huge-explosion-rocks-lebanon-capital-beirut-live-updates-200804163620414.html
Aussie Infidel wrote:
SEEEEEEEE!!
The fun thing about being totally ignorant about this stuff is that you get to ask all the fun questions and you don’t look any dumber than you did in the beginning. HA!
Aussie Infidel wrote:
OK, thank you. Now look at the pic at the very top of the AJ article you linked to. See that grain storage building still standing on the left side? Granted, there were still some structures left standing after Hiroshima but not at ground zero
@ eaglesoars:
Some BIG bang stats:-
Timeline of major disasters
Country City/Location Date Deaths Notes
United Kingdom Faversham, Kent April 2, 1916 115 The Great Explosion: On April 2, 1916, a factory in Uplees, Faversham, exploded after a fire spread to a store of 25 tons of TNT and 700 tons of ammonium nitrate. The blast at the Explosives Loading Company killed 115 people and shattered windows in Southend-on-Sea across the Thames Estuary while the tremor was felt in Norwich.[1]
United States Morgan, New Jersey (now Sayreville) October 4, 1918 ~100 T. A. Gillespie Company Shell Loading Plant explosion: On October 4, 1918, an explosion at the Morgan Depot occurred leading to many artillery shells being launched into the air, some of which landed on a neighbouring warehouse where 4000 tonnes of ammonium nitrate were stored in barrels. One of the shells caused a large explosion, but the majority of the ammonium nitrate did not detonate.
Germany Kriewald July 26, 1921 19 On July 26, 1921, in this railway town (now in Poland) workers tried to dislodge 30 tonnes of ammonium nitrate that had aggregated (solidified into one mass) in two wagons. When mining explosives were used on this solid mass the wagons exploded and killed nineteen people.[2]
Germany Oppau September 21, 1921 561 Explosion at BASF plant Oppau: Another attempt at disaggregation of a fertilizer mix with industrial explosives caused the death of 561 people and left more than 2000 injured. The fertilizer was a 50:50 mixture of ammonium nitrate and ammonium sulfate and the factory had used this method of disaggregation over 20,000 times without incident. It is thought that, on this occasion, poor mixing had led to certain parts of the mass containing more ammonium nitrate than others. Only 450 tonnes exploded, out of 4500 tonnes of fertilizer stored in the warehouse.[3]
United States Nixon, New Jersey
(now Edison Township) March 1, 1924 20 1924 Nixon Nitration Works disaster: On March 1, 1924, a fire and several large explosions destroyed a warehouse containing ammonium nitrate at the Nixon Nitration Works. The explosiveness of the product was perhaps enhanced, as it had been prepared using nitric acid that had previously been used for the production of TNT.
United States Muscle Shoals, Alabama 1925 0 On April 4, 1925, and May 3, 1925, two carloads, each containing 220 barrels of ammonium nitrate, were dispatched from Muscle Shoals, Alabama, and caught fire in transportation. The barrels had been stored in a warehouse with varying humidity for 6 years, so it is believed that they were ignited by friction with their nitrate-impregnated manila paper lining. Other shipments were reportedly more successful.[4]
France Miramas August 5, 1940 0 240 tonnes of ammonium nitrate in sacks exploded after being hit by a shell from a nearby fire in a munitions train.[5]
Belgium Tessenderlo April 29, 1942 189 Another attempt to disaggregate a pile of 150 tonnes of ammonium nitrate with industrial explosives ended tragically on April 29, 1942: 189 people were killed, 900 wounded.[6]
United States Texas City April 16, 1947 581 Texas City disaster
Texas City disaster
The disaster drew the first class action lawsuit against the United States government, on behalf of 8,485 victim…
…….
: The cargo ship Grandcamp was being loaded on April 16, 1947, when a fire was detected in the hold: at this point, 2300 tons of ammonium nitrate in sacks were already aboard.[7] The captain responded by closing the hold and pumping in pressurised steam. One hour later, the ship exploded, killing several hundred people and setting fire to another vessel, the High Flyer, which was moored 250 metres away and which contained 1050 tonnes of sulfur and 960 tons of ammonium nitrate. The Grandcamp explosion also created a powerful earthshock that broke windows as far as 40 miles away and knocked two small planes flying at 1,500 feet (460 m) out of the sky. The High Flyer exploded the next day, after having burned for sixteen hours. 500 tonnes of ammonium nitrate on the quayside also burned, but without exploding, probably because it was less tightly packed. All but one member of the Texas City fire department died.
France Brest July 28, 1947 29 The Norwegian cargo ship Ocean Liberty was loaded with 3300 tonnes of ammonium nitrate and various flammable products when it caught fire at 12:30 July 28, 1947. The captain ordered the hold to be sealed and pressurised steam was pumped in. As this did not stop the fire, the vessel was towed out of the harbour at 14:00, and exploded at 17:00. The explosion caused 29 deaths and serious damage to the port of Brest.[8]
– Red Sea 1953 0 A fire was detected on the cargo ship Tirrenia on January 23, 1953, while it was carrying 4000 tonnes of ammonium nitrate. Attempts to extinguish the fire with steam were unsuccessful, and the ship was abandoned before it exploded later in the night.[9]
United States Roseburg, Oregon August 7, 1959 14 The Roseburg Blast: A truck carrying dynamite and ammonium nitrate caught fire early in the morning of August 7, 1959. When it exploded it killed 14 people and injured 125 more. Several blocks of downtown Roseburg were destroyed. The accident is locally referred to as “The Blast”.
United States Traskwood, Arkansas December 17, 1960 0 On December 17, 1960, a 96 freight car train suffered partial derailment, in which the last 23 cars were derailed. The derailed cars included: four fuel oil tank cars, two tank cars of gasoline, three tank cars of petroleum oil, four cars of lube oil drums, three cars of liquid fertilizer, one car of fuming nitric acid and two cars of fertilizer grade ammonium nitrate. In this particular accident, neither car of ammonium nitrate exploded.[10] However, the nitric acid reacted with the fuel oil, essentially creating ANFO to feed the conflagration, resulting in the spread of the ammonium nitrate material around the incident site.[11]
Australia Taroom, Queensland August 30, 1972 3 A truck carrying ammonium nitrate experienced an electrical fault and caught fire north of Taroom. After the driver stopped and parked the burning truck, two brothers from a nearby cattle property who saw the fire rode up on motorbikes to assist. The three men were killed when the truck exploded. The explosion burnt out more than 2000 acres of surrounding bushland, and left a deep crater where the truck had been parked. A memorial to the three men was unveiled at the accident site in 2013.[12][13][14][15]
United States Kansas City, Missouri November 29, 1988 6 On November 29, 1988, at 4:07 AM two trailers containing approximately 50,000 lb (23,000 kg) of the explosive ANFO (ammonium nitrate with fuel oil) exploded at a construction site located near the 87th street exit of Highway 71 in Kansas City, Missouri. The explosives were to be used in the blasting of rock while constructing Highway 71. The result of the explosions were the deaths of six firemen from the Kansas City Fire Department’s Pumper Companies 30 and 41. Both companies were dispatched after 911 calls indicated that a pickup truck located near the trailers had been set on fire. The responding companies were warned that there were explosives on-site; however, they were unaware that the trailers were essentially magazines filled with explosives. At 4:07 AM one of the “magazines” caught fire and a catastrophic explosion occurred, killing all six firemen instantly — only sparing remains were found. A second blast occurred 40 minutes later, although all fire crews had been pulled back at this time. The blasts created two craters, each approximately 100 feet (30 m) wide and 8 feet (2.4 m) deep. The explosions also shattered windows within a 10-mile (16 km) area and could be heard 40 miles (64 km) away. It was later determined that the explosions were acts of arson, set by individuals embroiled in a labor dispute with the construction company contracted to build the highway.[16][17]
Papua New Guinea Porgera Gold Mine August 2, 1994 11 At 9:45 am, 2 August 1994, 11 workers were killed when the sensitised AN emulsion plant they were working on exploded at the Porgera Gold Mine. The fatal explosion involved at most a few tonnes of explosive. A larger explosion of about 80 tonnes of emulsion (Ammonium Nitrate Emulsion, ANE, UN 3375) was caused by fires under storage facilities at the site at 11:02 AM. There were no fatalities in the second explosion because the site had been evacuated. A mushroom cloud was seen to rise.[18]
ANE is an emulsion of ammonium nitrate, fuel and water.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
That’s yer Darwin award right there……..
Aussie Infidel wrote:
Not really, they weren’t doing this on their own soil, they are perfectly fine with a few of their allies blowing themselves up.
It’s like he hears the music but he can’t tell quite where it’s coming from
The governor of New York has begged the city’s wealthy, who fled the coronavirus outbreak, to return and help it recover.
Andrew Cuomo said he was extremely worried about New York City weathering the Covid-19 aftermath if too many of the well-heeled taxpayers who fled to second homes decide there is no need to move back.
“They are in their Hamptons homes, or Hudson Valley or Connecticut. I talk to them literally every day. I say. ‘When are you coming back? I’ll buy you a drink. I’ll cook,’ “ Mr Cuomo told MSNBC, naming popular getaways for the rich.
“They’re not coming back right now. And you know what else they’re thinking, if I stay there, they pay a lower income tax because they don’t pay the New York City surcharge. So, that would be a bad place if we had to go there.”>/i>
https://news.yahoo.com/governor-cuomo-begs-wealthy-yorkers-150935434.html
Well, there’s dumb and there’s criminally stupid
HOT SCOOP: NBA reporter and amateur weapons expert Chris Palmer says ‘there is no question that’ Beirut explosion ‘was an atomic bomb’
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/08/04/hot-scoop-nba-reporter-and-amateur-weapons-expert-chris-palmer-says-there-is-no-question-that-beirut-explosion-was-an-atomic-bomb/
eaglesoars wrote:
What a total MORON!
The Aussies simulated a nuke in Operation Blowdown in 1966 using HIGH explosives.
50 tonnes of TNT High Explosive went ups detonated .
The results were very interesting and they were recorded by armoured high speed cameras throughout the bush.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Blowdown
🙂
@ Aussie Infidel:
that’s a lot.
I’m off to read. I’m on my 5th Elizabeth George book now.
Thanks for the help Aussie and thank your friend for me please.
eaglesoars wrote:
Key word there being “amateur”. Very amateur.
eaglesoars wrote:
eaglesoars wrote:
@ eaglesoars:
My ‘baby brother’! 🙂
AZfederalist wrote:
HEH!
How true.
There is a LOT of STUPID TO THE BONE going about these days
🙂
5 of my peeps just ordered from brcc.
Thanks, lobo.
@ Aussie Infidel:
My dad was offered for all of us to go to Australia in 79.
He was an LWBR expert machinist. The pay was astounding.
@ coldwarrior:
@ eaglesoars:
Too bad he didn’t go and take the family with him. You could have been an Aussie by now!
🙂
From Dr. Large Explosions (otherwise known as my baby brother AKA Aussie Infidel #2)
When you get a pile (bulk or pallets of bags) it can contain itself and burn to detonation. Looks like a fire (burning for awhile from the amount of smoke) then detonation. The ground would have directed the blast upwards.
Just a silly accident again by the looks of it.
If they survived the people responsible would say “I didn’t think that would happen” – heard this plenty of times.
Response from OUR baby brother ( Aussie Infidel #3) and Senior Hi-rise Fire and HAZMAT Specialist with the NSW Fire Brigade …….
Speaking of explosions, here’s an interesting and unusual “double” ignition…..propane and then iso butane.
We uses to use this as a training video…..now on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMxOoi9M92g
… and finally from Dr. Large Explosions (AI #2) to OUR Baby Brother (AI #3):-
Reminds me of when we used to boil up turps or kero in mum’s laundry, collect the fumes in a glass jar and ignite the mix with a match.
🙂
I would NEVER use the laundry for my chemistry experiments. I used the old tin ‘shed’ out the back to mix my rocket fuel! Fortunately it had a sand floor which came in VERY handy some times with premature ignition!
🙂
HEH!
There is a strong streak of pyromania in the AI Linage!
@ Aussie Infidel:
Lebanon is a failed state already
Beirut:
“The 2,750 tons of ammonium nitrate that detonated on Tuesday can be traced back to the Rhosus, which called into the Port of Beirut on September 23, 2013 after experiencing technical difficulties. The ship, sailing under a Moldovan flag, was en route from Georgia to Mozambique. Once in port, the Rhosus underwent an inspection by Port State Control technicians who found significant deficiencies and banned it from resuming operations.
The majority of the ship’s crew were repatriated, but the captain and three of the crew members were forced to stay aboard. Unfortunately, their situation would continue to deteriorate as all attempts to contact the owner of the ship failed to elicit a response. Further complicating matters were immigration regulations that prevented the crew from even deboarding the ship.
With the crew unable to deboard, and with no incoming supplies or provisions, the situation aboard the Rhosus quickly became a humanitarian issue which even diplomatic efforts failed to resolve. Eventually, the crew contacted legal professionals who successfully argued that the crews’ lives were threatened not only by their stranding, but also due to the dangerous nature of the cargo. The crew received an emergency injunction from the judge, and shortly thereafter left Beirut.
After the departure of the Rhosus’ crew, and the continued silence of its owner, the Port Authority was left with responsibility over the highly explosive contents of the ship. Although currently unsubstantiated, it is possible that legal claims prevented the auctioning of the ammonium nitrates which were left on land storage as the only avenue for the safekeeping of the material. At some point between July 2014 and October 2015, the ammonium nitrate was moved to a warehouse where, ostensibly, it remained until the catastrophic explosion.”
https://stableseas.org/maritime-terrorism/explosion-beirut-seafarer-rights
@ Aussie Infidel:
I’d have made a great all rounder.
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/tucker-opening-monologue/
Guggi wrote:
Morning Guggi!
‘legal claims’.
I bet nobody wants to claim it now.
Biden is getting hotter and hotter!
A Grand Total of 136 People Tuned-In Tonight to Watch Joe Biden’s Campaign Unveil Its “Latino Agenda”
And 130 of them were media
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/grand-total-136-people-tuned-tonight-watch-joe-bidens-campaign-unveil-latino-agenda/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
I have to run and dump Mia the Psycho Puppy at doggy day care before she destroys the house. Later
eaglesoars wrote:
And **that** is a significant part of the problem — they feel ( as folks such as these two don’t “think” ) that they have every right to do it.
@ Canoe Convoy:
I really wanted to see what happened when the cops got there. They probably told everybody to just chill (cops hate paperwork) but it would have been fun to see her arrested for assault with intent to maim.
m’kay.
in 2018 Netanyahu was at the UN warning about Hezbollah weapons stockpiles at the port and airport in Beirut. Look at the pics he’s holding
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/flashback-netanyahu-warned-united-nations-iranian-missile-stockpiles-beirut-back-2018-video/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
And more. July 26
Over the course of the last several weeks, more than a dozen key Iranian military sites and Iranian-backed militia sites have been bombed, set on fire, or otherwise sabotaged.
This includes Iran’s nuclear program headquarters and its top missile development site.
Then, what are still only known to be civilian infrastructure sites were also hit with mysterious fires throughout the country, including a key petrochemical plant and a shipyard.
Moving to Syria, successful precise Israeli attacks on Iranian-backed Hezbollah sites where several Iranian officers just happened to be hanging out have also increased lately.
On Thursday, an Iranian passenger jet was buzzed by a US F-15 fighter & forced to drop altitude abruptly in an incident originally blamed on an Israeli fighter jet.
And finally, (so far), massive explosions occurred at Iranian-backed militia bases near Baghdad Sunday. The militias are blaming Israel for those attacks, but the U.S. may have been involved.
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But the answer, based on my sources, is there are at least two key military leaders in Iran who have turned against the regime. They are supplying the U.S. and Israel access to source code for cyberattacks and the info on the movements of other commanders.
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The ever more clear message to Iran from the U.S. and Israel is that they now know where all the top weapons and commanders are hiding. The passenger jet buzzing, the supposedly civilian infrastructure sites, and the major damage to the nuclear and missile locations are all the result of breached information that was beyond “top secret.”
The result is there are essentially no Iranian secret ops anymore. And whenever possible, the U.S. & Israel will “deactivate” those targets with several means at their disposal.
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The cause of these defections is likely the aftermath of confusion and power shifting that occurred as a result of the U.S. operation to find and kill the late commander of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Qassem Soleimani. General Soleimani’s replacement, Esmail Ghani, is not as respected, and the slightly changed inner circle he has arranged at the IRGC left some other generals feeling a bit left out.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/sources-string-attacks-iranian-sites-result-moles-within-jake-novak/
tsk tsk and all that
Listening to Dan Bongino about voter fraud. A CNN host was berating a conservative that voter fraud didn’t exist. It does. Its just hard to prove by the standards legally required. We would have to start auditing selected elections.
I prefer the actually polling place and pulling the lever or punching chads. Then I am mostly confident the election was impartial. Even there though on the west coast I was in line behind a soy boy who declared to his friends he was so excited about the election that he cast a provisional ballot by mail and also was voting in person to make sure he was counted.
The provisional ballots count. So he voted twice. They only get audited if the election is close. But if enough ballot harvesting occur they don’t get counted except in the general vote. The immoral side votes twice. The moral side votes once.
@ eaglesoars:
There is hope for the future.
https://twitter.com/reeveslawstl/status/1291045947607326722
BREAKING re: Flynn en banc
1) The DC Circuit just entered the attached order regarding the Flynn en banc oral argument. It shows at least some of the judges are concerned that Judge Sullivan has become biased, and needs to disqualify himself. (cont)
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6) This indicates that the DC Circuit is concered that by petitioning for en banc review, Judge Sullivan has rendered himself a party to the case, and has thus disqualified himself from further overseeing the district court proceedings.
Here’s the link to the court doc, altho it’s not loading for me maybe you’ll have better luck
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CKdyag-RhjQvtMuirc1KapD_pO3XTH43/view
@ darkwords:
vote by mail and all the Trump votes will get lost.
@ eaglesoars:
I think the media will try and declare Biden the winner before election day.
Had to take uber back from the CC…I’m down 40lbs and cant handle booze at the older level.
I had a great cigar too.
I’m almost back.
I shot a legit 81 for 18.
Walking. I’ve lost 10yrds off of every club, but am more accurate.
Yep.
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/wait-for-it-joe-bidens-incoherent-answer-about-mental-decline-ends-in-disaster/
Ummmmm…….
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking-massive-fire-in-uae/
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
yeah, they tried that with Hillary last time.
coldwarrior wrote:
hmm. sometimes a break is helpful?
coldwarrior wrote:
It looks like it started during daylight and continued into darkness? That black, black smoke…I bet there’s a lot of cooking oils, petroleum based stuff, tires etc in there.
@ eaglesoars:
It is.
And that wasnt AN going off in Beirut.
I have an EOD friend from back in the day…
@ coldwarrior:
Nice.
@ coldwarrior:
I’m seeing a whole bunch of people doing pointless calculations based on ANFO.
No way anyone mixed 2700 tons of ANFO and put it in storage. It makes zero sense, even for idiots, not to mention the physical challenges.
Anyway, if somehow they did and 2700 tons of ANFO went off there wouldn’t be a Beirut, methinks.
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
AN wont make that shockwave.
Nor would a great big pile of anfo.
Unless it was celled and then set off at exactly the same time.
Nope, too hard to do. Like making an old school nuke.
That was a hit, or a warning
It was hardcore badass who ever did it.
What that looks like is an air/fuel bomb.
coldwarrior wrote:
Well, I’m certainly not anybody qualified to have an opinion.
But that’s never stopped me before so…one thing Aussie said: If it had been some version of AN, it should have exploded almost instantaneously after the first explosion.
It didn’t, I timed it. 20 seconds.
So does your friend have an idea?
As for the UAE fruits & veggies market fire – the last time I saw smoke like that, the plane had hit the Pentagon.
@ eaglesoars:
A yuge pile of prepped ANFO wont go off like that unless its celled.
AN will burn fast.
ANFO is almost a slurry…
My GF had a blasting permit
@ coldwarrior:
Hah… grand father
@ coldwarrior:
@ coldwarrior:
I’ve had some gf’s that were best when blasted!
2 drink minimum! Tip your waitresses!
coldwarrior wrote:
just not over the side of the boat….yes, that was my dad but don’t tell Mom
darkwords wrote:
Vote Early Vote Often!
🙂
coldwarrior wrote:
My baby brother … Dr Large explosions used to supervise the pumping of tonnes of ANFO into drilled holes and move the whole side of a mountain (well large hill actually) when working in gold recovery at a Kalgoolie open cast in WA,(Western Australia,
🙂
He loves making really big bangs
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
That probably wasn’t ANFO mix in Beirut. Just Ammonium Nitrate and a contained fire that set it off …. from someone who knows what he’s talking about. The Brown smoke was partially burned NOx and then the main explosion was as a result of that initial explosion after a hiatus.
Just another Darwin Award nominee I’m afraid
🙂
@ coldwarrior:
Actually homeschooling is perfectly fine if done right. Most people do not. Key is to be part of an association. Mine is 20 bucks a year. Lots of group activities (even with current COVID restrictions by the state brownshirts). I like that it takes my kids out of the bullcrap of the current system and the indocrtination centers the currents schools have become. Just make sure you have picked a good curriculum and go. Luckily I found a curriculum system that I worked with as a teacher in a private school that I can afford so I’m all set. Besides, my son only has two more years. The public school system was failing him and he was failing it so I didn’t have many options left.
Indoctrination. Damn keyboard.
Libertarian Party Presidential Candidate Praises Company For Firing Woman Who Posted “All Lives Matter” on Facebook
https://summit.news/2020/08/05/libertarian-party-presidential-candidate-praises-company-for-firing-woman-who-posted-all-lives-matter-on-facebook/
Libertarians: “Hold my beer…”
@ Deplorable Martian Overlord:
You’re a good dad……….
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
How do libertarians always manage to scrap the bottom of the barrel for presidential candidates? So many of them seemed so smart and attractive and full of common sense on twitter.
The DNC must control their election process.
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
The masks have completely come off. I’ve been saying for years the big L libertarians have just been working for the dems by peeling off enough of the so-called conservative vote to ensure dem wins. Since Trump they’ve taken off their masks and have basically declared themselves the enemy.
eaglesoars wrote:
I just try. I wish I had done this years ago when he started going downhill, I just didn’t want to rock the boat with the ex-wife. Turns out this COVID stupidity was enough to convince her this was the only choice.
@ Deplorable Martian Overlord:
I’d love to see people who have the means start providing scholarships to private schools to poor and middle-class families.
I was fortunate enough to have parents who made the sacrifices to get me out of the public school system.
right_wing2 wrote:
me too. Well, actually I got thrown out of the public schools system but at least they could put me someplace that was going to leave me alone so I could learn. It’s probably the best thing they ever did for me and one day when I told them that, they just sagged with relief.
Welp. FWIW. Another video of Beirut. Supposedly not seen until now because the owner of the phone was killed in the blast.
You can hear what sounds like planes coming in at about the 1:15 mark.
https://twitter.com/Ian56789/status/1291117659166310401
@ eaglesoars:
but it’s worth noting that according to maps, the airport is basically next door.
video with translation
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1291134954022121472
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
Huh? That doesn’t sound very libertarian to me. In any sense of that word
@ eaglesoars:
@ eaglesoars:
Agreed. The problem we have right now is that the public schools are sending the parents that are homeschooling a form to apply for “public funds”. As the associations says, “keep in mind that once they give something they always want to control it.” A lot of new homeschoolers don’t understand that. Luckily, I have an innate distrust of government drilled into me by my military service and my fathers past.
Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:
That’s interesting. So what happens if an unsuspecting parent files the form? What are the details of this scam?
@ darkwords:
@ Deplorable Martian Overlord:
I’ve noticed that almost all of the popular “libertarians” were screaming loudly for a “national rsponse” when Trump left it up to the states.
The are a lot of “weed and porn” libertarians out there. Like in the times we live in, these are very important things, and Republicans are always trying to deny them these things, as evidenced by the nationwide shortage of weed and porn…
Click bait ??
https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/trending/3-teens-with-loaded-ak-47-backpack-jump-wall-mar-a-lago-police-say/YLXB6XNGURCVJGXY4NFPF3A6KY/
eaglesoars wrote:
Right now it’s harmless, they get applications for various education grants and funds that are usually reserved for small schools and such. Down the road though it could become a problem. (Most if not all homeschoolers do not qualify for any of these programs.)
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
Yep, I can tell. Lol. We have a limited legalization state (prescription only under VERY controlled circumstances and still have over a dozen very popular shops running at full capacity in my city.
Deplorable Martian Overlord wrote:
forgive my skepticism.
I have a very drugged dog on my hands who wants to go down the stairs but is too drugged to do it, wants to play with a ball but misses it by about an inch, etc. I’m off for the night. It’s hilarious, but I can’t take my attention off her lest she break her neck trying to jump up on something and miss
nite
Word is Twitter suspended Trump.
I know he posted an Obamagate vid.
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
I stand corrected.
Deplorable Bumr50 wrote:
Apparently they did something to his campaign account because of something said about the Wuhan Flu. Now, this seems to be taking an active part in a campaign and should be considered a donation in kind to the democrats
@ Deplorable Bumr50:
I’ll gaze the porn sites occasionally. What I find disturbing is the amount of content labeled teenager. And the ease of access. It should probably be strictly paid content.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/jail-fauci-new-report-compares-turkey-covid-treatment-hcq-vs-usa-without-hcq-results-crystal-clear/
@ Gateway Pundit
it is past time for a serious investigation of Fauci and his wife’s ties to Gilead and the lab in Wuhan.