I do wanna put this right here tho…
thanks possum for finding a better translation
Wouldn’t kicking Russia off the SWIFT system mean that they don’t have to do foreign transactions in dollars? That hurts the US more than Russia.
New Invasion Open
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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/02/howd-impeaching-trump-work-out-zelensky.html?m=1
Interesting
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/willing-die-ukraine/
I am in agreement
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/perpetual-tyranny-endless-wars-are-enemy-freedom
More interesting
heavy economics and politics
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/how-ukraine-fits-global-jigsaw
Apparently this guy is from Pittsburg and is – or was – reporting independently from Ukraine. He just walked to Poland. About 50 miles
https://twitter.com/UkraineLive2022/status/1497106536828710912
BREAKING: Biden picks DC Court of Appeals Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson as his nominee to The Supreme Court, according to several reports
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1497211296709758980
Pfizer & Moderna Investors Run for the Exits
https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/pfizer-moderna-investors-run-for-the-exits/article_f33832ce-9347-11ec-830c-6fe60d1a126b.html
Dowd predicts Moderna will drop to zero with bankruptcy as fraud related to concealing the COVID vaccine dangers surfaces, and he predicts Pfizer will become a sub-ten-dollar stock. Dowd explains that the smart money has already left Moderna and will soon be exiting Pfizer.
Dowd foresees an avalanche of lawsuits coming as the insurance industry continues to uncover the legions of mounting deaths coming from the complications of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines.
Dowd teamed up with an insurance industry analyst and researched the life insurance claims. They found that since OneAmerica shocked the world by announcing a 40% rise in non-COVID deaths in younger working-class employees, multiple other insurance companies worldwide have seen the same thing – massive rises in non-COVID deaths. And the evidence inescapably points to the vaccines as the cause.
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Meanwhile, the funeral company stocks have outperformed the S&P. “Funeral Home companies are growth stocks. They had a great year in 2021 compared to 2020, and they outperformed the S&P 500. The peer group of Funeral Home stocks was up 40 plus percent while the S&P was up 26 percent – and they started accelerating price-wise in 2021 during the roll-out of the vaccines – You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to connect the dots here.” See mark 5:55.
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Other insurance companies have reported the same or worse death numbers as OneAmerica. For example, “Unum Insurance is up 36%, Lincoln National plus 57%, Prudential plus 41%, Reinsurance Group of America plus 21%, Hartford plus 32%, Met Life plus 24%, and Aegon – which is a Dutch insurer – saw in their US arm plus 57% in the 4th quarter – in the 3rd quarter they saw a 258% increase in death claims.” See mark 07:55.
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“They raised (mortality) expectations 300,000 for 2022 over 2021 due to COVID plus ‘indirect COVID,’ which I think we know what that’s code for… They (Aegon) did a
$1.4 billion reinsurance deal with Wilton Reinsurance…what they were reinsuring were high face amount individual policies from 1 million to 10 million… (So) I think there is an asymmetric information situation going on in the insurance industry where some people have figured out something’s going on. They are off-loading their risk – they are not going to say what it is as they don’t want that information to get out as they unload the risk.”
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The idea is that no company – upon government request – should have to pay for unforeseen complications resulting from an emergency product that they released to the world out of their goodness of the hearts, with the best of intentions. Right?
Wrong – not when your company accomplishes this through deceit, also known as fraud.
MUCH more at the link
@ eaglesoars:
this is gonna get ugly.
actuaries are very powerful
eaglesoars wrote:
ummm….that means that blacks are over-represented by population % on the court…
aoooooo….. that’s raaaaaacissssssssss. right?
eaglesoars wrote:
Jackson also signed the recent opinion ordering Trump White House documents be disclosed to the January 6 select committee.
And in 2019, she blocked Donald Trump’s fast-track deportation policy from going into effect at the southern border.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10479219/Former-clerk-SCOTUS-contender-Ketanji-Brown-Jackson-changed-Wikipedia-page.html
coldwarrior wrote:
that article is probably the most comprehensive coverage of the issue I’ve found.
Wait until peoples’ premiums skyrocket because they’ve been vaxed. Hell to pay
coldwarrior wrote:
no, that’s reparations in slo mo, ya cracker….
https://www.facebook *DOT* com/joshuareavis/posts/10164934105035526
eaglesoars wrote:
I kept seeing what I thought were biblical quotes then realized they were podcast time stamps.
Maria Bartoroma quizzes Moderna CEO about the weird thing- a DNA sequence patented by Moderna 3 yrs before the pandemic has been found in the virus. He totally dodges the question (she should have asked him why he dumped the stock)
https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1497190731995357221
I would not be surprised to find out Fauci gave it to wuhan
@ Bunk Five Hawks X:
i thought the same thing!
@ Bunk Five Hawks X:
ok, that’s weird
eaglesoars wrote:
Infusion was delayed due to Presidents’ Day and it’s messing with me today. That’s my excuse.
Bunk Five Hawks X wrote:
No, not YOU, the passage. Oddly fitting
eaglesoars wrote:
quite!
@ eaglesoars:
The comments are kind of interesting.
Steve Cortes (Bannon) is saying Ukraine may be excuse for the Fed to back off hikes
yeah, BFD
JUST IN – Council of Europe has suspended the Russian Federation from its rights of representation in the Committee of Ministers and in the Parliamentary Assembly with immediate effect.
https://gettr.com/post/pwsjlo1ed5
One thing I don’t like about GETTR is that you can’t tell from the link the nic of the poster. This is DiscloseTV
I think this is one of the American truck convoy groups reporting on the Canadian guys
What happens in Ottawa now, people report: I’ve now been added to the list of people being sued for $306 million dollars from a class action lawsuit by some residents and businesses in Ottawa.
Should I laugh, cry or make a run for it? I believe in my lawyers because they were there in Ottawa.
We need to go back to Ottawa! The truckers need to go back!
https://gettr.com/post/pwsyy4463c
eaglesoars wrote:
So, how bad is she?
coldwarrior wrote:
Nope, not if the minorities are over-represented. That’s equity
/Come on CW, get with the Woke program
/s
eaglesoars wrote:
Ooooh, that’ll have Russia quaking in its boots and seeking a hasty withdrawal. Strongly worded letter indeed.
From the previous post, I find it kind of Ironic that the very people that Zelensky helped out by dissing Trump are the ones upon whole he is now dependent to salvage his country’s sovereignty and look at how they are being so helpful to him. He threw in with the wrong lot.
@ AZfederalist:
Off to gulag with me
No potato
the puti just got home from school…she asked the teacher why they were watching cnn to get news…because it’s fake. she said that most of the class agreed.
yep. i am sure the teacher doesnt have the balls to call me
…and…my neighbor just handed me 4 ducks. he wants them smoked. we get two of them. the other two are for him and a dinner he is having tomorrow night with his in-laws.
no pressure, right!
i think a birch syrup and salt glaze…yeah…that’ll do it
updates tomorrow
AZfederalist wrote:
bigly and yugely
@ coldwarrior:
might throw in some saffron basmati rice for them…
coldwarrior wrote:
Pure awesome. Congrats.
“We’re not gonna gloat, so GTFOB.”
https://twitter.com/ScottLoBaido/status/1496219069275590657
coldwarrior wrote:
oh lovely!
eaglesoars wrote:
‘i will do my best’ – every Iron Chef ever….
Report: Biden Admin Plots ‘Sweeping Overhaul’ of COVID Strategy That Includes ‘No Scenario’ to ‘Go Back to Normal’
https://nationalfile.com/report-biden-admin-plots-sweeping-overhaul-of-covid-strategy-that-includes-no-scenario-to-go-back-to-normal
does this guy know the word ‘mid-terms’?
NATIONAL REGULATIONS REQUIRING VACCINATION AS CONDITION OF EMPLOYMENT BEING PREPARED BY TRUDEAU LIBERALS
https://www.freedomforumcanada.com/national_legislation_requiring_vaccination_as_condition_of_employment_being_prepared_by_trudeau_liberals
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/guess-where-all-the-californians-went/
interesting animation
coldwarrior wrote:
what, no on bit one that?
https://alaskabirchsyrup.com/product/pure-birch-syrup/
i get NOTHING from them. great product tho and it’s from Palin’s town
@ eaglesoars:
they are going full bore.
we are next
stagflation, by design
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2022/02/25/oil-rig-growth-still-sluggish/
Wouldn’t kicking Russia off the SWIFT system mean that they don’t have to do foreign transactions in dollars? That hurts the US more than Russia.
@ coldwarrior:
Correct however as things like Oil payments are all paid in USD that posed a serious problem for Putin. Unless he starts to exchange Russian oil for Chinese goods. Many other commodities are also USD denominated to obviate the need of foreign exchange risk during the nominal 12 weeks between placing an order and taking custody of the commodity.
@ coldwarrior:
what does birch syrup taste like?
coldwarrior wrote:
As will be the depression
You will own nothing and you will be happy. Or else.
THEY WON!! The judge rules against Fairfax County Schools and Asra Nomani is in disbelieving tears!
WE WON! @coalitionforTJ and @PacificLegal
WON! Judge Claude Hilton rules Fairfax County Public Schools is discriminating against Asians in its new admissions policy to Thomas Jefferson HS for Science and Technology. The American dream won!Read decision:
https://twitter.com/AsraNomani/status/1497315629958791170
eaglesoars wrote:
birchy….
not terribly unlike maple in sweetness, but with a mineral something…
mrs coldwarrior is a yuge birch tree fan as she is russian (see puchkin and dostoyhevsky) so, we have birch trees here…cut out a hunk and chew on it…the sugar is called xylitol…its a thing
last ear we bought birch syrup because of mrs coldwarrior’s love of birch trees on a whim. we use it only for duck and salmon, and once in a while, with champaign, on griswold iron waffles,
xylitol also increases saliva production, so i used it during radiation to my neck/head. it helped.
eaglesoars wrote:
That was a summary judgement too, the judge didn’t bother with a trial
coldwarrior wrote:
that kills dogs on contact. I won’t have it in the house. It’s used as a sugar substitute in a lot of stuff. One of Hubby’s clients had a dog die from eating a gum wrapper.
@ eaglesoars:
which is why the dog gets none.
on contact? no. dose/weight
its not zyclon b
blog dog gets no scraps unless they are protein only
coldwarrior wrote:
I’m not settling for seizures or liver damage either
Mia Psycho Puppy has been known to jump on the kitchen counter when no one is looking. Willow has figured out how to open the cabinet door in the laundry room where I keep the treats..
Also macadamia nuts.
Mia got a mini milk chocolate hershey bar I left on the table when I got up to answer the phone. Animal poison line on speed dial. She was fine. Never did that again.
lets all take a good look at this
@ eaglesoars:
beagles.
i know. family has owned them. i get it.
blogdog doesnt do that. blogdog is getting old and we and i are facing the inevitable.
well, i must. i’ll be the one who does the final trip to to the vet. mrs coldwarrior loves animals too much. it’s coming and I dread it.
The heathen beagles have been unusually quiet today. They aren’t tearing up the house, haven’t yelled at me 5 times a day to MOM OPEN THE DOOR. Altho Willow did bark to wake me up from a nap to go out, but that was only once, usually they spend the day harassing me. The weather has been fine. They’re both just into naps today for some reason.
@ coldwarrior:
Birch water.
If you think the new governor Glen Younkin solved the problem, you don’t understand Virginia
Richmond City May Cancel Gas Service For Its Citizens, Henrico and Chesterfield
https://jeffersonpolicyjournal.com/richmond-city-may-cancel-gas-service-for-its-citizens-henrico-and-chesterfield/
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED: That the (Richmond) Council hereby commits to working with the City’s Administration on an equitable plan to phase out reliance on gas and shift to accelerated investment in City-owned renewable energy and hereby recognizes that the continued operation of the City’s gas utility is an obstacle to the City’s goal of Net-Zero emissions in accordance Resolution No. 2020-R024, adopted June 8, 2020.
Translation: The Richmond Gas Works, a municipal owned public service utility, is targeted for closure. Council sees its continued operation as “an obstacle.” The 117,600 customers (as of 2018) may soon need to run their lives and businesses without natural gas. Those customers are not confined to the city itself but are also located in Henrico and Chesterfield counties. (Disclosure: I am one of their Henrico customers.)
Live cyber attack map
https://attackmap.sonicwall.com/live-attack-map/
somebody got a clue
Romania’s most famous football team, Steaua Bucharest, announce a ban on VACCINATED players, because their madcap owner says that athletes ‘lose strength’ – and claims those that are jabbed die in hospitals
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10542765/Romanias-famous-football-team-Steaua-Bucharest-announce-ban-VACCINATED-players.html
It is to laugh
Calif. Reparations Task Force Split on Eligibility; Decision Delayed
The task force first met in June of 2021 but soon came up to a major issue of who receive reparations. In previous months, Secretary of State Shirley Weber has said that reparations would only be given to direct descendants of slaves. However, other members of the task force have since said that they would want to back a system where all black Californians would be covered in a tier-like system. While descendants of slaves would be at the top of the tier for receiving reparations, other black Californians hurt by “historic and systemic racism” could still receive funds. Mixed-race Californians with black ancestry and recent black immigrants from overseas countries would, theoretically, also be able to receive funds under such a tiered system.
https://californiaglobe.com/articles/calif-reparations-task-force-split-on-eligibility-decision-delayed/
The obligatory *snort*
@ coldwarrior:
Fixed the busted linky at the top to open to Mr. Possum’s translation and added something else to click on (also from our esteemed nocturnal marsupial).
Johan Eliasson & Oskar Arhusiander with a steamer.
Fatass burps.
https://twitter.com/StephenKing/status/1496303674267774984
@ Bunk Five Hawks X:
thx!
this’ll make putin quake in is ushanka!
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2022/02/25/sanctions-russia-booted-from-eurovision-song-contest/
strong action, strong action
It looks like Russia WILL be blocked from SWIFT
Technical preparations for Russia’s disconnection from the SWIFT interbank information system have begun. The Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Dmytro Kuleba announced this on his Facebook page.
“The official decision has not been drawn up yet, but technical preparations for the decision and implementation of this sanction have already begun. We pushed and pushed and we succeeded. The entire vertical of Ukrainian diplomacy worked for that – from the President of Ukraine to the attaché at the Ukrainian embassy,” Kuleba wrote.
The Minister also thanked all the numerous people, in particular the Ukrainian diaspora, who put pressure on the governments to support this decision. “Ukrainian diplomats dedicate this victory to all defenders of Ukraine,” the Foreign Minister added.
On Saturday, February 26, it became known that Italy, Cyprus and Hungary had withdrawn their objections to Russia’s exclusion from SWIFT. Germany was the last to announce such a step. It was to the German government that the relevant online petition was sent, which has so far collected more than 300,000 signatures.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4041748/posts (the source site is down)
And…
Kremlin website is DOWN: Russian state websites including media watchdog crash and TV channels ‘are hacked to broadcast Ukrainian songs’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10554917/Kremlin-website-DOWN.html
But this is not good
Chechen special forces ‘hunters’ are unleashed in Ukraine to detain or kill Kyiv officials – and are given ‘decks of cards’ with photographs of their targets
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10551327/Chechen-special-forces-hunters-unleashed-Ukraine-detain-kill-Kyiv-officials.html
Well well well
Penske cancels U.S. Convoy Truck…
Sandberg was sidelined because the company he rented his truck from, Penske, shut down his truck remotely. “Penske does not support the people’s convoy movement,” Sandberg said on a Facebook stream. “So, I’m in a situation where I’m not going to be able to continue on.”
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/penske-cancels-u-s-convoy-truck/
It is a thing of beauty
The skank Gov of NY tweeted this snot nosed BS
We are evaluating the CDC’s new guidance, and we will update New Yorkers on potential changes as we work through the details and coordinate with all stakeholders in our school communities across our state.
https://twitter.com/GovKathyHochul/status/1497365495183548421
And got blown up by DeSantis’ spokesperson
You tweeted this from Florida, where kids can breathe freely
https://twitter.com/ChristinaPushaw/status/1497396854178254848
eaglesoars wrote:
Bloomberg confirms
EU Moves Toward Expelling Russia From SWIFT With German Support
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-26/eu-edges-toward-nuclear-option-of-blocking-russia-from-swift
eaglesoars wrote:
I have a couple of unopened Iraq war decks like that. Saddam was the Ace of Spades IIRC.
eaglesoars wrote:
Penske is the largest automotive dealer in the U.S.
eaglesoars wrote:
…with the hashtag #BuckTheCDC. 😀
I have a question. According to what I’ve read, Putin gave Ukraine a short list of ‘demands’. First on the list was ‘forget this NATO crap’. I didn’t think NATO was much interested in adding Ukraine to its membership to begin with but whatever.
Now I wonder – given the mayhem Putin has unleashed (I’m sure Poland is thrilled with all the refugees at the border), would NATO be more open to bringing Ukraine under its umbrella, just as a banner to Putin HERE BUT NO FURTHER
???
Apparently this guy is Ukrainian Minister of Digital Information
@elonmusk
, while you try to colonize Mars — Russia try to occupy Ukraine! While your rockets successfully land from space — Russian rockets attack Ukrainian civil people! We ask you to provide Ukraine with Starlink stations and to address sane Russians to stand.
https://twitter.com/FedorovMykhailo/status/1497543633293266944
@ eaglesoars:
I don’t know if Elon has responded, but if he does decide to try to help Ukraine, he’s gonna end up on Putin’s hit list. Elon Musk taken out by Chechens.
This is an odd story
Four administrators at Trinity School of Midland were arrested Friday morning for failure to report an alleged sexual assault. Court documents say the victim was sexually assaulted by another student on campus multiple times from September to December 2019.
https://twitter.com/kateporter_CBS7/status/1497389306020876288
Altho Child Protective Services was notified. It’s not clear to me what law was broken
The Ukrainian Ministry of Defence is CONFIRMING that the garrison of Snake Island is ALIVE and has surrendered to Russian troops
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1497589103616937994
so that audio recording was BS………..
Liz Cheney is certifiable
As Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene and Rep Paul Gosar speak at this white supremacist, anti-Semitic, pro-Putin event, silence by Republican Party leaders is deafening and enabling.
All Americans should renounce this garbage and reject the Putin wing of the GOP now.
this ‘event’ is AFPAC – America First Political Action Committee
NIH releases 90% redacted documents in response to FOIA request:
Poland’s PM trashes Germany
Prime Minister @MorawieckiM in #Berlin :
Today there is no time for the selfishness that we see also here in #Germany.
This is why I came to @OlafScholz to shake Germany’s conscience so that they decide on firm and crushing sanctions that would influence Putin’s decisions.
https://twitter.com/PLPermRepEU/status/1497551601585823749
Oh, look. Right on cue:
@ lobo91:
start hanging people
This is America and we can pronounce things however the hell we want to.
KIEV
with hilarious GIF
https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1497663241304133633
@ lobo91:
Yeah, well they didn’t look for it before ‘cuz they would have found it and THEN what?
BREAKING:
All EU countries have unanimously agreed to close the EU’s airspace for Russian airlines.
Putin is ruining Russia’s economy.
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497675353787191296
If I find confirmation I’ll post it
Oh my. The EU brings the hammer. Not just getting kicked out of SWIFT
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/statement_22_1423
First, we commit to ensuring that selected Russian banks are removed from the SWIFT messaging system. This will ensure that these banks are disconnected from the international financial system and harm their ability to operate globally.
Second, we commit to imposing restrictive measures that will prevent the Russian Central Bank from deploying its international reserves in ways that undermine the impact of our sanctions.
Third, we commit to acting against the people and entities who facilitate the war in Ukraine and the harmful activities of the Russian government. Specifically, we commit to taking measures to limit the sale of citizenship—so called golden passports—that let wealthy Russians connected to the Russian government become citizens of our countries and gain access to our financial systems.
Fourth, we commit to launching this coming week a transatlantic task force that will ensure the effective implementation of our financial sanctions by identifying and freezing the assets of sanctioned individuals and companies that exist within our jurisdictions. As a part of this effort we are committed to employing sanctions and other financial and enforcement measures on additional Russian officials and elites close to the Russian government, as well as their families, and their enablers to identify and freeze the assets they hold in our jurisdictions. We will also engage other governments and work to detect and disrupt the movement of ill-gotten gains, and to deny these individuals the ability to hide their assets in jurisdictions across the world.
Finally, we will step up or coordination against disinformation and other forms of hybrid warfare.
Nursing Injustice: An Unsparing Profile of Vladimir Putin Will Reveal A Deeply Vulnerable Kremlin Leader
pdf – 29 pgs
https://centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Waller_AriasKing_Putin_July2021_Optimize.pdf
Wow! Go Elon!
3 minutes ago
JUST IN – Elon Musk: “Starlink service is now active in #Ukraine. More terminals en route.”
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1497704004389945347
eaglesoars wrote:
here’s the actual tweet 15 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1497701484003213317
unconfirmed
The killing of Chechen General Magomed Tushayev, commander of the 141st Motorized Regiment of Chechen National Guard near Kyiv is important news. This is Kadyrov’s most elite unit. The prisoners confirmed the information that their column had been defeated.
https://twitter.com/bernieshq/status/1497652468313956354
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/1990-now-chronology-crisis
Did he fall out a window?
The financial director for Gazprom, the largest publicly-listed natural gas company in the world and the largest company in Russia by revenue, has been found dead by suicide in St. Petersburg
https://twitter.com/MarketRebels/status/1497675529490767881
eaglesoars wrote:
It just keeps happening
This is from Oct 2010
MOSCOW, Oct 18 (Reuters) – A senior economist at Russia’s biggest company, Gazprom GAZP.MM, was found dead in his car with a gunshot wound to the head, the company and police said on Monday.
https://www.reuters.com/article/russia-gazprom-death/gazprom-economist-found-dead-in-russian-capital-idUSLDE69H08K20101018
Parking garages. This is from the 1st link
The officers who arrived at the scene found the deceased in a noose in the annex garage, a note lay nearby. The deceased was identified as 61-year-old Alexander Tyulakov, Deputy General Director of the Unified Settlement Center (UCC) of Gazprom for corporate security.
This is another link about the most recent suicide
The officers who arrived at the scene found the deceased in a noose in the annex garage, a note lay nearby. The deceased was identified as 61-year-old Alexander Tyulakov,
https://funnyjunk.com/Gazprom+financial+director+found+dead+allegedly+by+suicide/GeLlNTr/
This is about the previous suicide
Klyuka’s body was found early on Sunday in the front seat of his Range Rover in an underground garage in Moscow, with a gunshot wound to the head, the Interfax news agency cited an unidentified police source as saying.
Somebody do a wellness check on Pelosi
Klyuka’s body was found early on Sunday in the front seat of his Range Rover in an underground garage in Moscow, with a gunshot wound to the head, the Interfax news agency cited an unidentified police source as saying.
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1497541964090253319
hey y’all
FWIW. From the Institute for the Study of War as of 3 pm today
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russia-ukraine-warning-update-russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-february-26
RUSSIA-UKRAINE WARNING UPDATE: RUSSIAN OFFENSIVE CAMPAIGN ASSESSMENT, FEBRUARY 26
To me, this is the most surprising
Russia has surprisingly failed to gain air superiority or ground the Ukrainian air force after three days of fighting.
heh
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2022/02/26/bill-maher-scolds-rashida-tlaib-for-progressive-rebuttal-to-biden-sotu-address-like-sacking-your-own-quarterback/
rain of lead wrote:
Hi! Welcome, I’ve been talking to myself all day.
Interesting thread. FWIW
https://twitter.com/RihoTerras/status/1497537193346220038?
THREAD 1/7 Intel from a Ukrainian officer about a meeting in Putin’s lair in Urals. Oligarchs convened there so no one would flee. Putin is furious, he thought that the whole war would be easy and everything would be done in 1-4 days.
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2/7 Russians didn’t have a tactical plan. The war costs about $20 bln/day. There are rockets for 3-4 days at most, they use them sparingly. They lack weapons, the Tula and 2 Rotenberg plants can’t physically fulfil the orders for weapons. Rifles and ammo are the most they can do.
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3/7 The next Russian weapons can be produced in 3-4 months – if even that. They have no raw materials. What was previously supplied mainly from Slovenia, Finland and Germany is now cut off.
more at the link
@ eaglesoars:
Yup. They expected this to be over by now.
@ eaglesoars:
geez, talk about your mouth writing a check that your ass couldn’t cash
…if this is true
lotta crap flying around
lobo91 wrote:
Why did Putin go into Kiev? Those 2 eastern provinces, Donbas and whatever the other one was, people seemed to be willing to say Ok, there’s some separatist sentiment there, we’ll be MYOB on that. Then he pushed the wall.
@ eaglesoars:
Because it’s the capital, and Putin’s goal is regime change.
I thought drone operators were not supposed to drink on duty.
https://twitter.com/Lucy_Dynamite/status/1497759587029729280
lobo91 wrote:
And not to destroy The Ukraine. If crippling the country was the objective the power would have been off by now. It would have stayed off for months..
lobo91 wrote:
Trump is going to regret calling this a smart move
This is the head of MI6.
With the tragedy and destruction unfolding so distressingly in Ukraine, we should remember the values and hard won freedoms that distinguish us from Putin, none more than LGBT+ rights. So let’s resume our series of tweets to mark #LGBTHM2022
https://twitter.com/ChiefMI6/status/1497287654441984007
This is a 9/11 video I haven’t seen before. 2nd plane hitting
https://twitter.com/Storm4Congress/status/1497586920200806406
@ Possum:
Well also if you do the Googly thing and research the Ukrainian electricity network it seems like the Ukraine EXPORTS electricity to Belarus and what do you know, Russia.
@ Possum:
speaking of Belarus, I’ve been seeing some vague reports of a coup.
@ Possum:
Something many people don’t seem to grasp about modern warfare. I always hear people say that if China wanted Taiwan, they would just nuke them.
Yeah, if you really want an uninhabitable wasteland. Pretty sure that’s not the goal, though.
I found my next RV:
@ lobo91:
oh LUST!!
I don’t understand any of it but it’s interesting
Scientists baffled after discovering new substance deep in Earth’s core
Or as experts have called it, a “superionic state.“
Deep within lies a concoction of “lighter” elements, alongside superheated solid and liquid states.
These include hydrogen, oxygen and carbon molecules, swirling around in a grid-like lattice of iron.
“It is quite abnormal,” Professor He Yu, who lead the research said.
“The solidification of iron at the inner core boundary does not change the mobility of these light elements, and the convection of light elements is continuous in the inner core.”
Temperatures are thought to be well over 5,500 degrees celsius, which is around the same scorching heat you can expect on the Sun’s surface.
https://nypost.com/2022/02/24/scientists-discover-new-baffling-substance-in-earths-core/
Former CIA intel officer & self-described geopolitics expert
@RosaLSmothers is among those who fell for the hoax that Proud Boys are sending an international brigade to personally meet and help Putin.
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1497726320146583553
The Proud Boys acct had 10 followers
An hour ago
BREAKING: Invading Russian forces have blown up a gas pipeline in Kharkiv, Ukraine’s second largest city, said Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s office. The government warned that smoke from the blast could cause an “environmental catastrophe.”
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1497757667812679680
@ eaglesoars:
What is more amusing is that the proud boys are supposed to be an extreme right wing neo Nazi organisation.
Russia is a left leaning communist country ( or so we were told back in the 60’s )
Ukraine was, and in some areas still is, a Nazi type place. ( Uniform insignia etc )
So to my simple mind if the neo Nazi proud boys wanted to get into the fight they would be on the side of the Ukraine.
LOL
In 2018 they treated him like a buffoon. They laughed at him
German delegation reaction to President Trump at the UN saying they’re on track to become totally dependent on Russian oil:
https://twitter.com/IsaacDovere/status/1044603065029066753
We should have let Stalin have the whole shebang.
Possum wrote:
correct.
Not to mention the ACTUAL Ukie Nazi chick who is running Canada and has a good chance of becoming the next PM
LOL I LOVE the Internet!
So, the Ukraine got pissed at Russia when Russia annexed the Crimea in 2014 and stopped buying natural gas from Russia.
The Ukraine then bought natural gas from other European countries instead.
Sounds great! Hey I would do the same.
But a lot of natural gas that Europe imports is from Russia and a lot of it is supplied by pipelines that enter Western Europe via the Ukraine.
So, the Ukraine does not get natural gas from Russia. They get it from other European countries, who get it from Russia. Via the pipelines that pass through the Ukraine.
You still with me on this LOL
https://www.eia.gov/international/analysis/country/UKR
You can’t make this shit up….
Possum wrote:
but where else COULD they get it from? We need a geologist…
off to bed nite.
But then there’s this…
For everyone’s convenience order some flower seeds from Amazon for delivery to the Russian embassy in DC….ATTN: Russian Soldier Memorial Project
I’m assuming most of Ukraine is a Zone-3 equivalent?
In case anyone mentioned this, it’s a reference to the Ukrainian woman giving Russian soldiers flower seeds to put in their pockets, so flowers would grow over their dead bodies.
https://instapundit.com/505960/
Interactive live map of Russian invasion.
https://maphub.net/Cen4infoRes/russian-ukraine-monitor
@ Bunk Five Hawks X:
Colour blind people yet again are disadvantaged.
@ Possum:
Thankfully in the UK they changed the colours of wires in power cords from Red=live Green=Ground ( earth ) and black=neutral
Now they are Brown=live a really cool green and yellow stripy thingy= ground and Blue=neutral.
Otherwise red/green colour blind electricians would now be an extinct species…
Great news! Elon Musk has activated Starlink over the Ukraine and is sending Starlink terminals.
Now everyone in the Ukraine can have high speed Internet access. They can order food and groceries from Grubhub, Amazon Prime, Instacart and UberEats.
Also as a bonus pornhub dot com premium is free!
lobo91 wrote:
Worobey did some extensive analysis of the origins of the 1918 Spanish flu and partners with Guan-Zhu Han PhD, Nanjing Normal University · College of Life Sciences.
https://muckrack.com/guan-zhu-han
@ Possum:
I read today that this became a popular song in England and had some connection to 118 118.
https://bunkstrutts.files.wordpress.com/2022/02/nolan-cormier-the-l.a.-aces-hee-haw-breakdown-1971.mp3
@ Possum:
Here’s a Cajun math joke. It’s in black and white.
https://youtu.be/k933NJzpLc0
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/trump-just-announced-hes-running-in-2024/
let the games begin!!!!
@ coldwarrior:
*sigh*
gonna get ugly
I see quite a few people saying the U.S. has bioweapons labs all over Ukraine. No idea if it’s true
keep this handy
What is U.S. electricity generation by energy source?
https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3
@ eaglesoars:
At this point I wouldn’t doubt it
coldwarrior wrote:
I’m living in a matrix of some sort
Everybody is freaking out because Putin put his nuke forces on alert. He isn’t going to use nukes, he’s not suicidal, he’s just trolling everybody. sheesh.
@ lobo91:
Very enlightening
@ lobo91:
That CBC clip at the end is sadly hilarious.
“It’s all in Russian so I don’t have a translation for you, but I can tell you what he is saying, (not that I speak Russian)…”
Sounds like BBN – the Behar Broadcasting Network.[20:10]
https://twitter.com/GlasnostGone/status/1497596354142650370
Interesting notice from Ukraine General Staff to civilian population about how to help.
ex: If you see a convoy of tanks, they will be followed by fuel trucks. Go for the wheels. Is the enemy in the forest? Burn it down.
https://twitter.com/GlasnostGone/status/1497596354142650370
now seeing reports Azov is deployed. Not sure where tho, reports are all over the place. Surprised it took them 4 days.
Russian soldiers are in for it.
Ukraine confirms rocket that struck airport was fired from Belarus – as Lukashenko warns war will become a ‘meat grinder’ with his special forces poised to join Kyiv assault
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10557221/Ukraine-war-Belarus-poised-declare-war-special-forces-loaded-planes-in.html
@ eaglesoars:
And again, just as with China and Taiwan, what would be the point? Russia already has plenty of uninhabitable wasteland. They don’t need more. They want to capture it intact.
CNN announces one of their journalists, Bernie Gores, has been killed by a Russian mine.
In August of 2021, CNN announced that one of their journalists, Bernie Gores, was executed in Kabul by the Taliban.
Side-by-side announcments
https://twitter.com/KunstKate/status/1497969649186586625/photo/1
lobo91 wrote:
And live to enjoy it
eaglesoars wrote:
real nazis.
take a look at their shoulder patch.
eaglesoars wrote:
maybe we can get the chechens and the azov to kill each other.
win-win
eaglesoars wrote:
nuke forces are never not on alert. its kinda in their job description
coldwarrior wrote:
oh I remember them. Orcs.
coldwarrior wrote:
HAR!! Point.
grocery store, later.
coldwarrior wrote:
Been there. Done that. Still can’t talk about it, even though it was during the Reagan administration.
@ eaglesoars:
@ lobo91:
yeah…nature of the beast
coldwarrior wrote:
“Hey, Fyordor! Boss says to power up the nukes. You still got the keys?”
“Grisha had them last. Ask Andrei.”
“Andrei told me to ask you.”
“Неважно. Пришло время для обеда.”
Psaki says we need to reduce our dependence on foreign oil.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1497961434914988044
Bunk Five Hawks X wrote:
and vodka!
coldwarrior wrote:
Fermented potato soup is a staple.
A few minutes ago.
https://twitter.com/Caucasuswar/status/1498018525184761867
eaglesoars wrote:
Fake but funny.
https://youtu.be/joHtQ0S2Qug
An interesting speech by Tulsi Gabbard. Not someone you’d usually expect to see at CPAC
@ Bunk Five Hawks X:
HAR! I definitely got taken in!
@ coldwarrior:
Dinner went perfectly.
Bonus! A case of Guinness just arrived at my door.
@ lobo91:
“Tribalism.” She’s exactly right about that.
@ lobo91:
Aside from describing opposing political factions as “tribes”, did she say anything significant? I turned her off after 8 minutes of platitudes.
How in God’s name did I run out of soy sauce?
lobo91 wrote:
There were quite a few pissed off people.
High Courts smack down Jacinda’s vax mandate. “Gross violation of human rights”
https://twitter.com/BrendanRaffer16/status/1497985527492009986
eaglesoars wrote:
Ye gods!!!!
Never!
Yamasa is my go to.
Bunk Five Hawks X wrote:
That was actually about the part where she got into specific issues.
She talked a lot about big tech/censorship/cancel culture
Bunk Five Hawks X wrote:
What is the drink made from bread sugar and water stored in large carboys until it pops the cork?
Russians seem to love the stuff. It’s revolting and is obvious an acquired taste!
Aussie Infidel wrote:
https://www.smartblend.co.uk/blog/what-is-kvass-and-how-to-make-it-the-russian-fermented-rye-bread-drink-recipe
eaglesoars wrote:
Yup.
Alas most of those who were forced kicking and screaming to jab stations under threat of being dismissed are now ruing the day that they caved too early.
It’s only the defence forces and cops that have had their mandated jabs rolled back legally. Jacinda is still in full psycho mode when it comes to everyone else. She seems to have ‘slipped a cog’ since her squeeze has been outed as a covertly convicted drugs dealer. She is in full psycho mode as her slip on power becomes clearer.
@ Aussie Infidel:
Kvass
Its gross
eaglesoars wrote:
Yup.
Alas most of those who were forced kicking and screaming to jab stations under threat of being dismissed are now ruing the day that they caved too early.
It’s only the defence forces and cops that have had their mandated jabs rolled back legally. Jacinda is still in full psycho mode when it comes to everyone else. She seems to have ‘slipped a cog’ since her squeeze has been outed as a covertly convicted drugs dealer. She is in full psycho mode as her slip on power becomes clearer.Bunk Five Hawks X wrote:
That’s it Kvass. It may be ‘kinda’ good for you so they say but it tastes revolting
🙂
coldwarrior wrote:
Tastes so
bad that your knees drop off!
🙂
I used to go to Russian households in NZ when I was working for a certain organization and they’d tell me how good it was for you. I was playing the part of a Russophile and had to smile and take it like a man. A KGB guy used to have a huge carboy of the stuff on his refrigerator top. it had a little tap on the carboy and he used to insist I take a swig…. for my health! Bloody KGB! He was the one who almost killed both of us by driving a car the wrong way up a motorway at zero dark thirty to drop of a ‘tail’. Fortunately there were few cars about at that time. Oh we DID have a tail. I was the tail, and I was sitting right beside him terrified that he was going to have a head on crash!
@ Aussie Infidel:
Mrs coldwarrior…kvass, beets, dill…
Yep
Aussie Infidel wrote:
😀
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/another-j6-protester-dead-makes-5-trump-supporters-dead-non-violent-defendant-commits-suicide-sentencing/
Gulag
coldwarrior wrote:
Better you than me ‘GungaDin’
🙂
@ Aussie Infidel:
Oh, I’m not eating it!
He’ll no.
@ Aussie Infidel:
Russian food, except for the smoked meats and fish is mostly awful.
coldwarrior wrote:
Tell me about it. We used to attend all of the diplomatic functions that the Soviet Embassy staged in Wellington. We were the token Kiwi faces. Interestingly we were obviously NOT political ‘supporters’ of the Sovs but purely Russophile supporters. I face even the GRU and KGB guys at the embassy thought and expressed opinions that Kiwi members of the pro-Soviet ‘NZ Socialist Unity Party’ were traitors to their country of birth, and couldn’t be trusted. We on the other hand were non-political Russophiles and were admitted to gain access to virtually all of the embassy staff, except the comms guys who lived a life of monks!
Once we organized an orchestra recital (Auckland Symphonia) of Russian music. Amongst others we made Russian dishes, in our case plates of ‘Peroschkies’. I accidentally spilled a paper plate of rather large ‘peroshkies’ into the gutter, but retrieved them , dusted the dirt off them and put them back on the plate.
Nobody noticed!
🙂
We didn’t eat ‘Peroshkies’ on that occasion!
coldwarrior wrote:
Recipe for doktorskaya kolbasa in here.
https://tackyraccoons.com/2020/04/15/doktorskaya-kolbasa/
@ Aussie Infidel:
@ Bunk Five Hawks X:
…and then there is excellent caviar and vodka
@ coldwarrior:
No such thing as “excellent vodka.”
@ Bunk Five Hawks X:
There is an excellent Russian ukie deli / grocery in Carnegie
One must love garlic tho..
.
Great stuff
@ coldwarrior:
The missus and I stopped in at a Russian venue after a movie. I remember exactly what I ordered because I regretted it before we left.
Kasha, borscht and two pints of Russian ale.
I really tried to puke it up, but had to suffer until the bloating passed.
coldwarrior wrote:
We were regularly kept in Stolli and caviar, by the Commercial Counceller, a rotund jolly little guy, and also by the KGB resident who was an animal, of the dirty fingernail clique. I always felt sorry for his wife who was regularly seen wearing ‘sunnies’ to cover her black eyes. The guy was a thug. I was greatly proud of my #1 son who at 6 months of age ‘shat’ all over the KGB resident’s suit during a …’bounce the cute little baby on my knee’…. episode. I handed the kid to Mrs AI and got the KGB goon cleaned up thinking… ” ohh I’m terrible sorry Mr. A. Here use this to get the stain out”
While thinking … ‘THAT’S MY BOY. Shit on the KGB arsehole!’
🙂
HEH
Bunk Five Hawks X wrote:
Obviously you have never had GOOD Russian Vodkha!
Both glass and vodkha chilled to under -5 C, and taken in a shot glass.
🙂
@ Bunk Five Hawks X:
The movie was Tom Waits’ Big Time. We got married the following year.
@ Aussie Infidel:
GOOD Russian vodka tastes just like vodka.
Bunk Five Hawks X wrote:
Ever had fruit vodkha?
Chilled and in an ice cold shotglass.
Wonderful
🙂
@ Bunk Five Hawks X:
There is an excellent Russian ukie deli / grocery in Carnegie
One must love garlic tho..
.
Great stuff
Bunk Five Hawks X wrote:
My God man!!!
Braver than me.
Bunk Five Hawks X wrote:
Ah. The point is to not taste like anything
It should be ether on the tongue.
The best vodka I’ve ever had is snow queen. Had it in a frozen martini bar in AC
Mrs coldwarrior did a blind taste test between Russian standard and Titos (austin). Tito won 3 out of three over one week.
@ Aussie Infidel:
Ah, a fruity cosmopolitan
Aussie Infidel wrote:
Sweet alcohol drinkys don’t count. Vodka tonic barely makes the cut.
@ coldwarrior:
Too gay.
Reyka from Iceland is top 5
coldwarrior wrote:
I didn’t know. I swear.
coldwarrior wrote:
That’s my point. Good alcohol should have a flavor. Common vodka doesn’t. Good and Excellent vodka doesn’t either.
Bunk Five Hawks X wrote:
Quite.
I will gladly have the barman lightly ice up a stoli and strain it into a glass.
No reason for anything else. I prefer my scotch and tequila neat as well.
@ Bunk Five Hawks X:
Welllll….yes and no.
Good scotch, well ye should taste the peat and the soil. That’s the point of it.
Vodka is supposed to be ethereal and evaporate on the palate.
Many kinds of booze, many purposes.
https://www.snowqueenvodka.com/discover-the-collection/
@ coldwarrior:
I’d be willing to roll with this because Dan Akroyd.
https://www.crystalheadvodka.com/age_check
A forensics guy took the bottle and recreated the likely image of the person (if the bottle were a real human skull).
https://tackyraccoons.com/2021/08/09/nigel-cockertons-contribution-to-the-world/
@ Bunk Five Hawks X:
That’s good stuff too.
Those forensic cats are a talented lot
@ coldwarrior:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2567729/Skull-shaped-vodka-bottle-brought-life-forensic-artist.html
Bunk Five Hawks X wrote:
creepy
Best murder weapon is a frozen salmon. A big one.
One smack round the head with a frozen salmon and you is dead.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/02/27/george-soros-u-s-must-do-whatever-possible-back-ukraine-against-russia/
ok, im no longer neutral.
Possum wrote:
a frozen leg of lamb, wasnt it?
or a dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8XeDvKqI4E
twitter is about to crash
eaglesoars wrote:
do tell.
@ coldwarrior:
The British army also trains its soldiers extensively on the danger of being attacked by an enemy armed with a piece of fresh fruit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4PZXuk3TsM
I’m not sure the story is true – a Ukie farmer stole a Russian tank with his tractor – but the video is funny as hell
https://twitter.com/perfiliev/status/1498024317594001409
@ eaglesoars:
BREAKING: Russian Tie Fighter downed just outside Kiev
What is really scary is some of the comments.
https://twitter.com/ChasingDissent/status/1497586823824130050
is it just me or does it seem like things are starting to go sideways
rain of lead wrote:
It’s everybody
Possum wrote:
actually that was funny too
Possum wrote:
love it.
i havent seen that in years
rain of lead wrote:
not yet….not yet.
eaglesoars wrote:
ummmm….do you know how much a tank weighs?
it’s kinda hard to get yinzs head around unless you’ve seen them operate.
a tractor?
@ coldwarrior:
well, they left it in neutral and forgot the parking brake
eaglesoars wrote:
ahh…its an apc.
i could pull that with my benz suv
rain of lead wrote:
its not a tank. doesnt even weigh half.
seriously, unless you have been around main battle tanks on the move, yinz just dont get how over the top heavy they are. the ground rumble is incredible.
rain of lead wrote:
and still, that is funny as hell.
@ coldwarrior:
and its summer time, no dirt road in eastern eur looks like that in feb/march
These people are paste-eating cretins who shouldn’t be allowed near anything more complex than an eraser.
In case of a nuclear explosion, FEMA warns to try to keep 6 ft social distance and wear a mask for covid. You can’t make this up
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1498058825819062275
doc at the link
Dumb
Ursula von der Leyen wants Ukraine to join the EU and insists ‘they are one of us’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10557565/EU-clamps-oligarchs-Kremlins-media-machine.html
And…dumber
EU announces all member countries will take in Ukrainian refugees for up to three years without needing to apply for asylum
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10557929/ALL-EU-countries-Ukrainian-refugees-three-years-without-asylum-applications.html
coldwarrior wrote:
I know, that’s why I posted it
coldwarrior wrote:
On one of our early dates, Hubby took me to Aberdeen to see the tanks (he’s the romantic type). So yeah, I do.
The funniest one was an empty cement slab. The sign said STEALTH TANK
UK
Soldiers have called for vegan uniforms to be introduced across the Army to fall in line with dietary requirements
https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1498054461301927940
@ coldwarrior:
The best French fries I ever had were from a Moscow McDonalds. Fresh from the fields.
In the hotel though there was a strict decorum. Married people were checked in first. Single people last. Breakfast was strictly one slice of meat. No more. and some type of porridge. St. Petersburg was more western.
I think China thinks Putin is gonna lose this thing
BREAKING: Reuters reports that the Bank of China’s Singapore division has ‘stopped financing deals involving Russian oil and Russian companies’
https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1498127761382477826
@ coldwarrior:
My intuition is leaning pro Putin in this war. But I am a romantic about Ukraine. Beautiful place. I’d like to see a stalemate soon and a peace that actually improves the geo politics of the region. I’m not interested in getting Russians or Ukranians killed over cultural nationalisms. Russia had some of the nicest people in the world when I visited. And the gypsy kids were voracious entrepreneurs and entertaining.
The afghan fiaso confirmed to me that I am very cynical about the motives and integrity of American leaders. Except for Trump and DeSantis. but Trump had to dip his toes in swamp water.
All this propaganda being used by the west to help Ukraine is the same machinery being used by Pelosi against the J6 political prisoners.
Ireland.
EXCLUSIVE Hundreds of Irish-owned planes to be ordered back from Russia in days
Irish leasing companies are expected to be terminate all leasing deals with Russian aircraft in the coming days as the next phase of sanctions ratchets up pressure on the Kremlin after its invasion of Ukraine, according to senior aviation sources.
Most commercial aircraft in Russia are leased, so if the requests are honoured the move has the potential to massively disrupt travel in and out of Russia as well as internally.
https://www.independent.ie/business/hundreds-of-irish-owned-planes-to-be-ordered-back-from-russia-in-days-41391470.html
Wonder were they’ll find the pilots
@ eaglesoars:
Chinas reaction to all this will be interesting. If they see the whole world turning against Putin will that make them pause in regards to Taiwan?
I’m conflicted as I think the head of the snake resides in the US and Russia is just a tentacle.
Just as we let goofball lefties onto schoolboards and didn’t notice we also have let goofball Dr. Strangeloves run our Russia policies.
@ darkwords:
They’ll ask General Milley
Norway says its sovereign fund will divest from Russia
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/27/intl_business/norway-sovereign-fund-russia/index.html?
https://twitter.com/ClintEhrlich/status/1498097146624573440
Day 4- SITREP: The gulf between popular perception and strategic reality continues to grow in Ukraine.
If you only read Western media, you would think the Russian military was on the verge of defeat.
In reality, they have a clear path to victory.
Satellite imagery indicates that a massive Russian armored column, with +800 vehicles, is approaching Kiev from the north.
At the same time, Russian forces in the East are working to link up and encircle a large fraction of the Ukrainian military.
What we’re witnessing is a funhouse mirror version of the Gulf War.
During that conflict, images of smart bombing broadcast into American homes highlighted U.S. dominance.
Today, Twitter images of Ukrainian tactical success are creating a false narrative of Russian defeat.
The single least appreciated fact about the current conflict is that Russia has only committed 1/2 to 2/3 of the forces it built up around Ukraine’s borders.
It also has the ability to draw Belarus into the war, whose armored divisions would represent a potent “fourth wave.”
What Russia *has* suffered is a massive defeat in information warfare.
The narrative of Ukrainian success is having real consequences in terms of the willingness of foreign powers to toughen sanctions and provide military aid.
We have already seen the Ruble fall to its lowest exchange rate in history (100:1) vs. the Dollar.
This is not quite enough to destabilize the Russian economy – in the sense of causing internal political chaos – but it’s enough that ordinary Russians are scared.
Before the war, Western polling showed that Russians favored military intervention in Ukraine to prevent NATO membership by a 2:1 margin.
But it’s clear that they did not appreciate that Russia would become a global pariah state. I don’t believe the war enjoys that support now.
@ eaglesoars:
I forgot to say – more thread at the link
coldwarrior wrote:
Actually mate ensure your Scotch is room temperature and just about 0.5cc of water (just a drip) to break out the full taste of the whiskey. Never drink good whiskey on the rocks and absolutely NOT non blended, single Scotch.
🙂
This looks good. Live updates of the war. Last post 27 minutes ago.
https://meduza.io/en/live/2022/02/27/russia-s-war-against-ukraine
eaglesoars wrote:
I agree 100% Eagles.
Russia will win by massive concentration of forces and the exhaustion of Ukie forces and the destruction of their logistics systems. If the Russians are smart they will stay out of urban fighting and cities cut off from outside utilities will fall eventually on their own.
What Russia has to factor in is their pariah status post war. THAT is going to cost them big time!
Aussie Infidel wrote:
That’s not all. They’re going to be dealing with a guerilla war for quite awhile.
Not to mention those Nazi Orcs
@ Aussie Infidel:
I have ranted about this before. The USA is a large enough land mass that there are all the natural resources we need to be totally isolated from the rest of the world. North to South we have climate variations so we can grow everything we need. If we eat seasonally.
The Russian Federation is a large enough land mass that there are all the natural resources they need to be totally isolated from the rest of the world. North to South they have climate variations so they can grow everything they need. If they eat seasonally.
I just took a quick look at the CIA factbook to see what Russia imports.
https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/russia/
All of which they are able to produce themselves, and used to.
@ Possum:
Just looked at USA imports.
The CIA factbook didn’t list ” And all the shit in Walmart ” LOL
darkwords wrote:
Ohhh yeah!
They’re called RINOs. They belong to their own party buried deep in the SWAMP. The party of perpetual war, because that is where the BIG Bucks reside.
Re-run that Eisenhower departure speech. Ike knew a thing or two about the Military Industrial Complex. (Add, Information, Finance and Media to that swamp)
eaglesoars wrote:
The days of the invisible guerilla hiding in the shadows and fighting for years is fast waning Eagles. Information systems, AI and smart weapon systems individual targeting are arriving before the the end of the decade. That’s why anyone who is against the NWO had better do their shit before 2030 or it’s all over for the individual guerilla.
Here’s some stuff to clear your brain
60 Jarring Nature Photos
https://historydaily.org/60-jarring-nature-photos/2
darkwords wrote:
Yup
Alas Putin has some really screwy ideas and he’s a cold SOB capable of killing easily. He should not be trapped in a corner or there could be serious trouble, internationally.
eaglesoars wrote:
Want to get your feet wet?
SE Queensland / NE New South Wales has been getting a foot of water a day for the past 4 days. That’s a YEAR’s water in less than a week!
Fortunately my brother’s place on the Queensland NSW border is 950 feet up on top of a mountain. Still there is 60 tonnes of water right behind his house with water pouring out of the overflows. 60 tonnes of water …. hmmm perched ABOVE the house on the side of a slope. Hmmmmmmmm
Aussie Infidel wrote:
RUN AWAY!!!!
rt.com is not blocked for some reason
bed nite
eaglesoars wrote:
eaglesoars wrote:
eaglesoars wrote:
Hmmmm RT remains blocked in NZ in Cindi’s Peoples’ Demokratic Socialist Republik of NZ !
🙂
coldwarrior wrote:
Do Soros’ interests really have to do with backing Ukraine?
eaglesoars wrote:
Buy and hold.
eaglesoars wrote:
The description of Moroccan goats in trees is incomplete. They eat the berries of the argon tree, then local Berber women pick the nuts out of the goat poop and crack them open to extract the seeds which they mash into a pulp for argan oil that they smear on their faces and put in their hair as cosmetics. They also eat it. Only women are allowed to make argan oil.
The Berbers also made carpets and were the first to make purple dye from seashells for the Roman emperors. The Barbary Pirates were Islamic Berbers.
Morocco–>goats–>trees–>berries–>poop–>nuts–>Berbers–>cosmetics–>food–>carpet–>purple–>Islam–>pirates–>slavery–>barbarians
A very comprehensive backgrounder on the whys and wherefores of the Russian Ukraine War, that I have discovered so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If61baWF4GE
The only stuff missing is the vast graft and corruption of the Ukraine State by large oil companies and actors like Soros et al who sniff huge future oil and especially gas revenues, flowing into Western oil companies and to shareholders.
This presentation also covers the Strategic questions that are driving Russia’s fears paranoid over its Western approaches.
You can also follow up with a second program on Georgian war, but on Neptune because You Tube would probably ban it outright
🙂
eaglesoars wrote:
He can’t run away. It’s his birthday and who’d blow out the candles on his cake?
🙂
Bunk Five Hawks X wrote:
I LOVE argan oil!
Regardless of what you think about BRCC, this is an interesting podcast. Retired Ranger Jariko Denman recently joined the company on the content side of things, and was on the ground in Kabul during the last few days prior to the withdrawal last fall. The relevant portion starts at around 35:00.
You’ll notice a few audio dropouts at different points. Those aren’t technical difficulties. It’s them redacting people’s names or other information for security reasons.
Just having lunch and thinking. ( lunch is chicken noodle soup and crusty bread rolls, with real butter, if anyone is interested )
So, Russia invades the Ukraine.
The government in the Ukraine distributes tens of thousands of weapons to the civilian population and runs Molotov Cocktail making classes.
Next thing we hear is Russia is firing at civilians, WAR CRIME!!!!
I like chicken soup even when I am not sick…
@ eaglesoars:
That is an excellent site.
Possum wrote:
https://meduza.io/en/live/2022/02/27/russia-s-war-against-ukraine
Possum wrote:
i do believe that that makes them combatants.
Our blue-collar benefactors now face the consequences of the scorched-earth policies adopted by the anointed class. Many have lost their rigs. Operating licenses have been revoked. Criminal charges have been laid. Bans on trucker commerce have proliferated. Bankruptcy looms for many. Livelihoods have been demolished. Families have been obliterated. Marriages are bound to collapse. And I suspect that suicides will mount as desperation sees no escape from ruination. In effect, Justin Trudeau declared war on those who kept the goods and services flowing through the ersatz pandemic and who enabled the populace to weather the government-induced travesty. Gratitude is not in the dwindling catalogue of common virtues. The casualties, though hidden by the Soviet-style media, are devastating.
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The fact is that the government from hell is working to transform a democratic nation into a police state and normalize totalitarian rule without having to mobilize the military and scramble its jet fighters. It moves subtly, insidiously, through legislation, decree, deception, legal subterfuge, financial penalties, and targeted defamation. It divides a country into sectarian belligerents, employs tested techniques of misinformation and disinformation, prevents the free expression of opinion (Bill C-11), and impoverishes and segregates its perceived adversaries. It manipulates a strategy of covert control which, in the long run, may be more effective than overt physical repression. It doesn’t need tanks; a few RCMP horses will do. Slander and sanctimony are excellent weapons.
https://pjmedia.com/columns/david-solway-2/2022/02/28/the-government-from-hell-n1562382
Assassination is not always wrong
@ coldwarrior:
And at this stage it really clouds the issue as to who is a civilian unarmed and who is a combatant that looks like a civilian.
I think on here there may be a few people that are ex military.
What a nightmare for RoE this situation creates.
Now me knowing nothing about anything the time for armed civilians to emerge is when a country has been completely over run and then they start the guerilla war.
Taking over a country by overwhelming military force is comparatively easy as compared to the keeping of that territory against the will of the majority of the population.
BREAKING: DeSantis REJECTS Biden’s request for Florida National Guard to deploy to DC for the State of the Union
Jack Posobiec
https://gettr.com/post/pxfm9m7085
@ eaglesoars:
Telling that Jill Biden feels unsafe in her own country.
@ Possum:
Probably the only way for Russia to occupy is to disarm the populace and install a social credit system that restrict movement. By the force of gun. Chinese are the experts.
@ eaglesoars:
I wonder if Trudeau is afraid of that coming from the everyday guy on the street.
No amount of peaceful politeness is going to remove woke from society.
darkwords wrote:
he could do what trudeau is doing
@ darkwords:
@ coldwarrior:
or what dc is doing to the J6 peeps.
@ coldwarrior:
If this happened in Canada those folks would be terrorists. I’m hoping for peace. The propaganda is all geared towards violence. Hard to tell what’s up. I’ve been looking for english speaking reporters from west Ukraine but haven’t found any.
Picture of destroyed Russian tanks in a column was from 2014. Saw a video of Kyiv militia executing a civilian on the street for being out after curfew. I’m surprised at all these civilian vehicles driving past military columns.
@ coldwarrior:
Yes, I think we are under the gun here. Note Biden warnings and threats towards the population in general. He has nukes, we have small arms. We are doing to die last winter. He’s like a kindergartner given the reins of power. Lot of effort to control the visible narratives.
In the old midwest we had farmer co-ops. Farmers would do their own thing but consolidate their outside efforts through the co-op. The state was never present. Different today. I don’t see much of a grange or co-op effort in the narrative.
coldwarrior wrote:
The ukies are already armed up. Not likely.
@ Bunk Five Hawks X:
Pro Ukrainian propaganda of Russian tank convoys being stopped by civilians standing in front of the tanks.
That tractor towing the Russian vehicle had a V painted on it. Pro UK vid of young kids in a car throwing molotov cocktails at both vehicles.
In my world the part of Western Ukraine that is mostly Russian becomes free Russian states. East Ukraine becomes the United States of Europe. NATO and the US hawks trying to draw Ukrainian blood from afar back off. Putin is not there because he is crazy. IMO he sees a threat and an opportunity for a land grab.
Zelensky is hurting and trying to draw connections into the west away from Russia. He wants to pull big people into the fight.
I have no confidence in western intelligence, media, military, Biden after the Afghan fiasco. They aren’t right in the head. In some aspects worse than Putin.
@ Aussie Infidel:
RT is ok here. I never visit it but the current headlines.
Putin slams West’s ‘empire of lies’
Bulgarian defense minister fired over Ukraine comments
No plans to occupy Ukraine, Russia tells UN
FIFA and UEFA suspend all Russian teams
Taiwan rejects ‘inappropriate’ Ukraine comparison
London takes back ‘Putin regime change’ claim
US views on mask mandates are shifting
I don’t even like the Governor of my state dicking around in my business unless they are cutting taxes. I would be miffed if the US gov or a foreign gov tried to exert undo influence over me.
New social media trends is uploading videos to phones on how to start and drive abandoned Russian military vehicles.
These calls to remove Russia from the UN seem illiterate to me. And they are coming from smart people. We’ve been through decades of brinksmanship with Russia participating. Better to “Defund the UN” as a whole I think.
Many of the aircraft of Russian airlines are leased. Most or the Russian civil fleet of Airbus type aircraft are leased from companies in Ireland.
The leasing companies are terminating the leases of these aircraft and demand they be returned. Yeah, that will show those damn Russkies who is boss!
In totally unrelated news Russian airlines are banned from entering most of Western European airspace.
So Russian airlines who predominantly lease their aircraft are prohibited from flying them anywhere.
The leasing companies have terminated the leases.
YEAH!!!!! The Russians just got out of long term leases for aircraft they no longer can use.
It is the equivalent of a leasing company re-possessing my car because I got a DUI instead of making me pay the monthly lease for years even thoug I could no longer use it.
@ darkwords:
And I have to say those young ladies are HOT!
@ Possum:
Ireland can terminate the leases, but how do they get the planes back?
Also, the U.S. has to stop buying Russian fuel
eaglesoars wrote:
energy independence is raaaaaacisssss….and and and….orange man bad!
yeah.
eaglesoars wrote:
social score outguns ak-47s any day! /
darkwords wrote:
If they’re going to start kicking countries out of the UN, the list should be pretty long (North Korea or Iran, anyone?).
We really need to create a parallel organization made up of the world’s democracies or something. Make countries actually apply for membership, rather than letting in any group of nutjobs who manage to seize control of a country someplace.
eaglesoars wrote:
I don’t think they have really thought about that in detail LOL
And another REALLY smart move. This time Volvo.
https://twitter.com/TheLocalSweden/status/1498309549605863425
Swedish factory in Russia. Well as the rest of the world is seizing and freezing Russian assets outside of Russia it looks like the Russians have got themselves a state owned truck manufacturing facility now.
Wonder how many other foreign owned businesses have a physical presence in Russia?
( yeah, you are all going to yell ” how well did that go in Venezuela ” )
eaglesoars wrote:
After the left used the NG as props in their propaganda last January, DeSantis is right on the mark.
https://triblive.com/news/pennsylvania/pennsylvania-gov-tom-wolf-asks-plcb-to-remove-russian-vodka-from-store-shelves/
BWAHAHAAAA!!!!! NOT.
i jut bought 6 bottles of stoli (at $3 off) and a bottle of elit.
this was in a very wealthy, old money town just south of me. other shoppers in the state store bought out the rest.
not a karen in sight. then i walked next door ad bought some good cigars.
@ coldwarrior:
jackass move. It’s one thing to not order any more but how are they supposed to recoup what they paid for it?
@ eaglesoars:
Americans are not that smart.
Remember when in Boston they rebelled against tax on tea?
They then stole it, got it for free, no cost to them, no tax paid.
Then those patriots just threw it into the harbour….
Things have not changed much here.
eaglesoars wrote:
the manager told me that was going to get to removing them just as soon as he had enough personnel in the store to do it ‘safely’ *wink*. he also told me that it was going to sit in the back until this blows over and then come right back out
eaglesoars wrote:
virtue signaling beats logic every time
illinois nazis
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/state-police-freedom-convoy-is-not-welcome-in-illinois/
right on time
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/02/28/u-s-capitol-ditches-masks-ahead-of-bidens-state-of-the-union-address/
Bunk Five Hawks X wrote:
You et your bippies they do. Ukraine has been the go to place for all sorts of BIG money illegal dealings and money laundering for years.
Then we have all of that recently discovered oil and gas just offshore in the Black Sea and inside Ukraine’s EEZ. We also have huge recently discovered oil fields near Donbas and also in Western Ukraine near the Polish border. THAT will make Ukraine wealthy and is a license to print money. That is why Soros is in boots and all!
coldwarrior wrote:
It certainly does and unless they mark themselves with clear clothing , badges or arm bands that they are combatants, they can be executed on the spot as spies
@ Aussie Infidel:
That makes sense. If you look at the Ukraine natural resources it says coal mainly to the East.
No oil or gas, but the data I saw was 2019 ish.
@ Aussie Infidel:
That’s what I thought but wasn’t positive
I have the black caps day 5 test match on.
Why am I getting all sorts of medical email updates about zika?
Hmmm…
Possum wrote:
You mean a bit like ‘Bomber Harris’? I remember seeing his statue in London as an honoured leader of the Royal Air Force.
In a Total War and with the post war history written by the victors, ‘War Crimes’ has lost its meaning and its sting
@ Aussie Infidel:
Bomber Harris just did the Blitz better.
The Germans started it. Britain just followed the German lead in indiscriminate bombing.
just checked my freezer
found this, a good polish potato vodka
https://distiller.com/spirits/luksusowa-vodka
@ rain of lead:
Yep. That’s house brand here.
Very good stuff
@ Possum:
To be fair to the German aircrews in 1940 their job was to fly over London strategic targets ( The docklands, Buckingham Palace, The Houses of Parliament ) drop bombs and then fly home to Germany.
The fact that a lot of the time in 1940 they had absolutely no fucking clue where they were when they dropped bombs accounts for the civilian casualties around London.
Possum wrote:
Huge oil fields off the West coast of Crimea, oil and gas fields off the eastern side of Donbas and also near Lviv in the West of the Ukraine. Shale gas all over central Ukraine. BUT no capital to develop these huge reserves of energy. The attacks of 2014 scared the oil companies out of the country. Putin knows that an independent Ukraine has the potential to be wealthy and to compete with Russian energy supply into Western Europe.
Putin’s drivers are:-
Unite the Slav and client states once more and reinvent Imperial Russia
Maintain Europe’s dependency on Russian energy as an Economic weapon
Capture additional population as part of greater Russia as Russian demographics enter a death spiral due to … no more Russian babies
Secure the open Western approaches to the Russian heartland
Reinvent the Russian cultural ideal of Kyivian Rus and resist the perceived degeneracy of the ‘new Europe’.
Possum wrote:
My father hated that man
@ Aussie Infidel:
Kind of makes me think that as Russia is in Europe a really smart move would be to invite Russia to join the EU.
@ eaglesoars:
He was just doing his job.
Possum wrote:
Actually that is BS mate. The Luftwaffe was totally professional and knew exactly where they were and what their task was. They used radio DF in France to navigate and their target marking was pretty accurate. London , Birmingham, Manchester, and even Bristol were easy to see, by follow on bombers, when they were burning.
The main problem was the lack of German heavy bombers. That was a strategic SNAFU as Hitler figured on a fast war with no need for long term heavy bombing. He was wrong, the Brits were correct and the Yanks… well the yanks made up for their B-17’s lack of bomb carrying capacity, by just using more of them!
ahhhhh….the old area bombing versus precision bombing debate.
Possum wrote:
Read your history mate. The Russians asked to not only join the EU but also NATO just after 2000. The Europeans and ESPECIALLY the US were totally against Russia EVER entering into the European community. With aRussia inside NATO that would destroy the very premise of NATO and the US was totally against that, as the US’ presence inside Europe as the core of NATO gave it a degree of control that kept Europe ‘in its box’, and the US dominant.
Well as we are delving deep into history, “Bomber Harris” was an advocate of area bombing which caused civilian casualties as it was not accurate.
This was during a time when Germany was using the V1 and later V2 weapons which were far from accurate. They were ” terror” or ” vengeance ” weapons. Designed to create fear and panic in the civilian population.
The main designer of the V2 later went to work for an American company.
His V2 rockets during WWII never hit what they were aiming at. Just exploded randomly where they fell.
Almost 30 years later that man finally designed a rocket that went exactly to the target it was aimed at.
The Moon….
coldwarrior wrote:
Yup
Precision bombing was only seriously available when the tech caught up to the aspirations. Sure Stukas were used as aerial artillery because it has a good score of direct hits on targets, BUT is was as a consequence of aerodynamics a really crappy aeroplane for air to air combat.
@ Aussie Infidel:
I am from Yorkshire. My Grandparents and parents witnessed the precision bombing of Sheffield. At that time Sheffield was a major producer of steel.
Night after night the Germans bombed a large area of the Pennines. A place where only sheep live.
Sneeky brits built a fake steel factory and kept the lights on at night.
@ Aussie Infidel:
my physics teacher and math teacher in HS were both Phds…they worked on the norden bomb sight. very interesting people
Mass bombing raids. At least the British did it at night….
Possum wrote:
Actually mate you are wrong both in your time line as well as the reasons for RAF area bombing. RAF area bombing had been de regure for at least 2-3 years BEFORE the V1 and V2 Weapons entered the war on the German side. Harris was quoted that he was going to break the will of the German people by area bombing. In that he failed.
The reason for Area bombing was that the tech involved was just not up to the task for accurate night time bombing. The US Army Airforce used daytime area bombing and paid a huge and deadly price in B-17 losses. In the end Germany just ran out of pilots as its aircraft production peaked as late as mid 1944!
@ coldwarrior:
The British had Mosquitoes And flares
coldwarrior wrote:
iirc…they worked on the autopilot interface.
If the West had lost the war then Harris would have ended up at the end of a piece of short rope and a long drop!
As I said. The winners write the ‘post match’ histories!
@ Aussie Infidel:
Yep! and as to my earlier posts, the Germans started it. They played dirty first.
The Royal Air Force just followed their lead.
Possum wrote:
Yup and for a long time the Luftwaffe had no answer to the ‘wooden wonder’. There is a hangar not far from here that remanufactures Mosquitos mostly for American millionaires. The company has rebuilt the form work from the original drawings and reinvented the metal forms from which the ply skins were bent to fit and the wooden frames were positioned. The Merlin engines come from Thai tanks of post war vintage that are remanufactured for use in aircraft.
Pathfinders on BOTH sides marked targets for night bomber raids.
Possum wrote:
True but if not for Churchill then the British wartime Cabinet would have signed an armistice in 1940 with Germany
darkwords wrote:
Co-ops are alive and well out here in MT and WY. Not a lot the government can do about the Hutterite farms either, they are pretty much heavily armed encampments and all work together.
@ Aussie Infidel:
Unfortunately the Dambusters 617 squadron are in some circles regarded as war criminals because as co-lateral damage when one of the dams was breached the torrent of water took out a concentration camp….
Also the code word for breaching one of the dams used the “N” word.
The headstone for Guy Gibson’s dog named the “N” word has been removed from RAF Scampton.
History is being erased…
coldwarrior wrote:
The Norton bomb sight was really high tech in the 1940s and the Germans had nothing as complex. von Braun belonged to a German amateur rocketry club prewar. He was recruited by the NAZIs and willingly joined the Party to advance his ‘hobby’. By the time the V1 and especially the V2 happened he was the world class expert o intermediate range missiles. He and his core crew surrendered to the US forces in Europe in 1954 and were wisked off to the States where they developed an advanced version of the V2 and finally contributed to the building of the Redstone. The little problem of being paid up members of the NAZI Party were conveniently forgotten about!
AS we all know von Braun helped develop the Saturn 1 and eventually the Saturn 5 which made it to the Moon!
Aussie Infidel wrote:
And Curtis LeMay would have been right there next to him
@ Aussie Infidel:
Yeah, that was what I said. von Braun finally developed a rocket that hit what he was aiming at.
@ lobo91:
That dropping fire bombs on a city that was built with wood was a war crime.
He should have dropped millions of termites.
At least there would have been no civilian casualties.
And they knew exactly what they were doing:
Possum wrote:
Talk about being sneaky. The US fearing Japanese long range submarines threat to the West coast used huge camoflage nets covering massive aircraft factories in Los Angeles. Why put up camoflage nets in telephone poles to protect against Japanese subs you ask? The subs carried large photo recce aircraft on their decks in waterproof hangars! One flew over Auckland and Sydney in 1943 looking for the US heavy cruiser Chicago. They found it in Sydney and unteathered 4 mini-subs to sink it at its moorings. They failed.
lobo91 wrote:
Yup.
It’ll be interesting to see whether Putin is ever threatened with a rope? Or perhaps we in the West have become too ‘civilized’ for that sort of retribution ?
@ lobo91:
Not defending the RAF or the USAAF I think Dresden may have been an unfortunate accident.
@ Possum:
Yes, I watched this hot young Ukrainian women narrate a video of dead Russian soldiers. I couldn’t watch the gore.
It reminds me of Japanese anime. Innocent looking characters then all of a sudden the rest of the series is blood and gore and head chopping.
@ coldwarrior:
Vodka has always been at the top of my prepper list. Medicine. Inebriation. Barter, Bribe the Russian guards if they attack us.
darkwords wrote:
I watched the one where she started a truck.
@ Aussie Infidel:
there was a chart online that showed Biden, Kerry, Pelosi and someone else high up with relatives employed by Ukrainian Gas companies.
Someone also said Ukraine buys it’s natural gas from Europe because they banned Russians natural gas. But Europe gets its gas from Russia.
@ darkwords:
i can distill grains…if needed. for medicinal purposes, of course.
just in case ; )
@ darkwords:
I did that one yesterday.
The Ukraine does not buy natural gas from Russia. They get it from Western Europe.
The pipelines that supply Western Europe mostly go via the Ukraine.
Nord Stream one is currently functional. Nord stream 2 is alongside the Nord Stream one.
Main objection is when Nord Stream 2 is operational less gas will transit the Ukraine.
Pipeline operators pay the countries where pipelines cross their countries a fee. Like air traffic control fees.
Less gas going through the Ukraine and gas transit payments are reduced.
Stopping Nord Stream 2 means that the Ukraine gas transit fees are not reduced.
coldwarrior wrote:
Dad said it changed everything. Before that, you just went in and tried to drop your load on top of the load of the crew that came before you.
Altho he said that’s pretty much the way it worked on D-Day. He launched from the UK at about 4 am when it was still dark, couldn’t really see much of the Channel going over, used what was already lit up as targets. On the way back it was daylight and he said you could have walked back on the water there were so many ships. He was supposed to fly a 2nd sortie but the guys were getting off the beaches by then and they didn’t need to bomb their side.
He didn’t even know which of the beach areas he had bombed. I had to do the research and tell him. Utah.
Possum wrote:
No it was not and was one of the reasons Dad hated Harris. Dad’s plane couldn’t reach Germany but he said if he had been ordered on that mission, he’d have been court martialed for refusing.
I’ve always disagreed with Dad on that one. The Allies knew what was happening with the camps, etc. Dresden and Hamburg weren’t enough. Hubby had a business trip to Cologne some years back, toured the Cathedral where the guides told everyone that the Allies had so much respect for their culture they spared it. Dad nearly busted a gut when he heard that. It was a navigation point.
@ eaglesoars:
I think Dresden was an unfortunate accident as in the resulting fire storm was not something that could have been know or predicted at that time.
You mention ” camps ”
From that I assume you also are among the people that now say the 617 Squadron are murderers.
@ lobo91:
Good interview. 15 yr ranger. main point I got was that the news around the withdrawal dried up within a week. Afghanistan forgotten.
Here we go… This is going to be like 2011 all over again.
( When the Posssum got banned )
Why did the USA even bother to get into the fight in Europe in 1942 between England and Germany?
Possum wrote:
correct
617 Squadron? Dambusters?
eaglesoars wrote:
except they did use incendiary bombs. But the firestorm – no. To my knowledge, no one had ever seen anything like that before.
@ eaglesoars:
617 Squadron Dambusters. Yep, they have been disbanded and re-formed several times.
Started off flying in Lancasters, then Vulcan nuke bombers, they
may have had something to d in Iraq flying Tornado GR1 ground attack flying things.
Now it seems they are stuck with some foreign F35B whatever that is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._617_Squadron_RAF
@ eaglesoars:
That is what I was trying to say. They did use some incendiary bombs but the resultant fire storm was as you say nothing ever seen before.
Tokyo was deliberate.
coldwarrior wrote:
They might just snatch a victory at the last minute. Someone has slipped some Vegemite into their cucumber sandwiches at lunch!
🙂
Possum wrote:
So was Coventry and so was Dresden
@ Aussie Infidel:
Coventry was November 14th 1940. it don’t count.
War started 7th December 1941
This is pretty funny:
darkwords wrote:
True darkwoods. The cunning bastards also use intermediaries and ‘cut outs’ to mask their nefarious purchases. Ukraine were charging billions for Russian gas to cross the country, and Vlad was not well pleased. Then when Vlad took Crimea the Ukies cut off all of the water flowing down a canal into Crimea causing a huge drought and Vlad had to import water by truck over the Azov Sea bridge.
This whole ‘punch up’ is complicated and involves, gas and oil supplies, Russian financials, Russian demographics, and especially Russian geographical vulnerabilities from the West.
@ Aussie Infidel:
Good video. Filled in a lot of gaps for me. I subscribed to that service.
Viewed in terms of security from Nato and petro money Ukraine is in a dangerous place. I would think they could have made Russia a deal.
Possum wrote:
Brits have VERY long memories!
🙂
darkwords wrote:
Yup I think they could have but given what has already happened in the polls with all of the cheating and such, there was just too much bad blood. Vlad will win these battles I believe, but will probably lose the NWO war.
@ Possum:
so why would I think they were murderers?
Aussie Infidel wrote:
I think that water has been restored.
Also – apparently we are buying fuel from Iran.
Some people need to be shot
@ Aussie Infidel:
I don’t mind Putins main 3 demands. Neutral Ukraine. Nato pull back, no more new nato countries as long as he does the same. Make Ukraine neutral. Trouble is people can’t leave well enough alone. Ukraine would need to be a strong democracy not a corrupt one. Biden and Obama have their fingers all over it.
I’d just pull out of Nato and let them make do there. I don’t want to import any EU level wokeness.
Possum wrote:
I flew with a skipper who flew a Vulcan. Not 617 Sqn but can’t remember his Sqn number now. He assumed he was flying a One-Way-Trip to Russia to deliver his two H-bombs, after fighting the electronic war through the thicket of Russian Anti-Aircraft artillery. Nuke his Primary and Secondary city targets, then turn around and fight his way back to the UK to his base that would have been a giant slab of black glass, containing his wife and family.
He told me that his plan was to deliver his load and then keep flying East until fuel exhaustion. Eject and settle down with a nice Mongolian woman and have 15 kids!
🙂
He was serious!
Putin Orders Military to Destroy Bio-Labs in Ukraine as US Scrubs Evidence of Their Existence
https://newspunch.com/putin-orders-military-to-destroy-bio-labs-in-ukraine-as-us-scrubs-evidence-of-their-existence/
I have no idea. But if true, start blowing that crap up and who knows what gets released.
darkwords wrote:
Probably getting Ukraine into the EU is the best of all options which are all bad
eaglesoars wrote:
Because the Dambusters destroyed dams that were providing electricity and water to German industry.
The affected German industrial places were also using slave labour, as in prisoners of war and other undesirable people. If you get my meaning.
The housing, if you can call it that, of the forced labour camps was next to the factories that got washed away.
Reportedly over 800 died.
darkwords wrote:
Trouble is Germany and Russia would become more authoritarian and end up challenging the US. The rest of Europe would see where their interests lay and fall into line. A Russian led EU of 700 million with massive resources and the money to use them would over match the US and probably China as well.
@ Aussie Infidel:
That was the truth in the 60’s.
Nothing left to come back to.
eaglesoars wrote:
Shell and BP would be back into Ukraine like ‘robber’s dogs’ exploiting the Ukie Oil and gas reserves for all they’re worth. The Per capita GDP would rise from ~$5k to ~50 k for the ukies, but that’d also bring in the Soros types and in a generation the Ukies would be as degenerate as the French
Possum wrote:
Ain’t that the truth!
🙂
The UK was sick and tired of living the way they had in the 50s so they sold their souls to the highest bidder!
eaglesoars wrote:
I wonder hos long it’ll be before Sweden, and Finland apply for NATO membership. I’m taking bets now! Good odds too.
🙂
Possum wrote:
Oh, I understand. No. That was a strategic target and those deaths were collateral and could be considered mercy killings.
I used to argue with Dad that the Allies should have bombed the death camps. He explained the politics to me. They had no strategic value and if the Allies were seen to be helping Jews, the war effort would have been framed as being waged to HELP JEWS and support would have plummeted. People who lost family in those bombing runs were not likely to think they were lost in a noble effort. He had a point. So at least couldn’t they have bombed the trains? Still risked Allied losses of men and material and who had intel at THAT level?
I was just in my teens when we were talking about about this stuff. They were my early education in real politik
Aussie Infidel wrote:
Already there, Sparky. Like mold.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
No. They won’t push it. They’ll hunker down and hope everything blows over.
The Swedish Foreign Minister has already said it out aloud!
eaglesoars wrote:
A little like the long held Ukie view that the 5-6 million Ukies lost to the Stalin induced famine of the 1930s was overseen by the Russian Chekists of which 2/3 to 3/4 were atheistic Jews. There was little or no push back when innocent Jews were sent to their deaths by the Germans… and some Poles… and some Ukies.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
Is that true?
darkwords wrote:
1. Trouble is that a neutral Ukraine actually means that it would be subsumed into Greater Russia as a buffer state between Russia proper and NATO
2. Pull back NATO from recent joiners, like Poland and the Balts, means that they would be wide open to Russian threats a to comply, and they too would be pulled back into a Russian buffer state situation, and be divorced from Western Europe.
3. No more NATO expansion. Romania and Bulgaria would fall back into line with Russia as Russia demanded that they unlatch from NATO and become buffer states.
FWIW
No, You’re Not Imagining It: Russia’s Army Is Inept
And so, as the Russian invaders met resistance, they didn’t quite know what to do. Military operations designed to take place sequentially—Step 1, then 2, then 3, etc.—fell apart, catastrophically. If Step 2 hit a big obstacle, the by-the-book soldiers moved on to Step 3 anyway. Therefore, large troop-transport planes tried to land, even though the airport hadn’t been completely secured and Ukrainian air defense systems hadn’t been destroyed. As a result, two Il-76 transport planes, each carrying 100 airborne troops, were shot down.
Similarly, tanks aren’t supposed to roll through hostile territory all alone. They need to be escorted by infantry troops alongside or by combat planes from above, to avoid getting ambushed. Yet, in this invasion, Russian tanks are rolling all on their own or providing protection for reconnaissance scouts, but getting no protection for themselves. So, as might be expected, lots of Russian tanks are getting ambushed.
Nor have the Russians established air superiority, even though their air force far outnumbers Ukraine’s. As a result, Ukrainian drones have been picking off Russian convoys with impunity.
There is a larger factor here: The Russian army is composed, by and large, of one-year conscripts, who are poorly trained (even within the confines of Russian military training), badly treated, and uninspired by ideology or any other motivating spirit. Hence the stories of captured Russian troops who had no idea why they were in Ukraine. At least a few didn’t even know that they were in Ukraine—they thought they were still doing exercises in Belarus. Others have reportedly been found knocking on village doors for food or, in one case, asking a local police station for fuel.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/02/no-youre-not-imagining-it-russias-army-is-inept.html
eaglesoars wrote:
Whether it is true is by the point. A great many Chekists especially in the top echelons were in fact atheistic Jews, but whether they made up 2/3 or 3/4 of the total numbers doesn’t matter. It is what the Ukie tradition believes happened. when they hang the blame for the deaths of 5-6 million family members.
FERTILIZER CRISIS ABOUT TO BECOME A FOOD CRISIS
As Europe’s farmers prepare to spread fertilizers on fields after winter, sky-high nutrient prices are leaving them little choice but to use less and try to pass on the cost down the food chain.
For growers of staples like corn and wheat, it’s the first time they’ve really been exposed to a fertilizer crisis fueled by an energy crunch, export curbs and trade sanctions. It now costs much more to buy chemicals needed for winter crops coming out of dormancy, and the extra expense could prompt smaller spring plantings that make up roughly a third of European grain.
Europe has been hardest hit by fertilizer-plant cutbacks on soaring costs of natural gas used to run them — and nutrient prices there remain at a record even as the pressure eased in North America. Europe could face a deficit of about 9% of its annual nitrogen-fertilizer needs in the first half, VTB Capital estimates. Food may get even pricier if harvests suffer or crop prices rise.
https://capitalistexploits.at/fertilizer-crisis-about-to-become-a-food-crisis/
75% of the Planets Fertilizer will not be Shipped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtDaXxAz_dM
And IIRC Russia recently banned export of ammonia, a key ingredient, of which it is the largest producer in the world. I think I posted that.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
point
eaglesoars wrote:
here
Russia bans ammonium nitrate exports until April to support domestic farmers
https://www.spglobal.com/commodity-insights/en/market-insights/latest-news/agriculture/020222-russia-bans-ammonium-nitrate-exports-until-april-to-support-domestic-farmers
eaglesoars wrote:
Very true HOWEVER don’t be fooled by your own imaginings. The first wave of Russians were conscripts (AKA Cannon Fodder). The Follow on troops are regulars and they are a VERY different enemy. Finally the creame de la creame regular Guards, SF and Marines, especially if Putin lets them off the leash would decimate the Ukies. Putin doesn’t have endless supplies so he will commit his regulars anytime soon and let them loose.
this is fine
Sara Carter: ‘Absolutely incredible’ that Mayorkas put in charge of Ukraine conflict threats
https://www.foxnews.com/media/sara-carter-absolutely-incredible-dhs-mayorkas-ukraine
@ eaglesoars:
That’s been the case pretty much forever. It was no different in the Soviet era. I think they were conscripted for two years back then. They’ve always been poorly trained, poorly supplied, and poorly led.
They have no professional NCO corps, so officers fill roles that should be done by sergeants. And the officers are usually the only ones who have seen the op order, or even a map. That’s how you get soldiers who don’t know what their mission is, or even what country they’re in.
eaglesoars wrote:
The point is that the ‘truth’ is what the ‘people’ culturally believe is true.
The Western Ukies actually threw their hand in with the Wermacht and even the SS because of the Stalin initiated famine, which they traditionally blame on Jews at the leadership level of the Russian Cheka. Blood debts 5-6 million strong establishes itself in the culture of a people.
Sometimes I think an actual kinetic war would be cleansing.
UC Berkeley education professor Zeus Leonardo: “To abolish whiteness is to abolish white people. That’s very uncomfortable perhaps, but it asks about our definitions of what race is and what racial justice might mean.”
https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1498335108830486533
@ eaglesoars:
I saw something the other day about DHS asking Border Patrol agents to volunteer for temporary duty in eastern Europe to help process refugees resulting from the fighting in Ukraine.
Might as well, I guess, since they aren’t doing anything on OUR border…
@ eaglesoars:
Not sure why anyone would take seriously anything written by someone calling himself Zeus Leonardo, but whatever. The guy’s a menace:
lobo91 wrote:
I know that it used to be like that during the Cold War but I’m not sure it remains the same today. I think the conscripts training is harsh cruel and stupid and that the senior conscripts after 8 months or so become NCOs and go on to ‘monster’ the next intake of conscripts. I do however know that the regular army has a NCO corps that is professional, as is the officer corps. The Russian command structure is still light years behind a western army but the weapon systems are effective
Aussie Infidel wrote:
There were a lot of Jews involved at the leadership level of the revolution, but I wasn’t clear on Cheka
lobo91 wrote:
I saw something too – Breitbart? – but I didn’t understand it to be voluntary
lobo91 wrote:
not to mention grifter. probably drugs and porn
lobo91 wrote:
And poorly treated. Cannon fodder.
bedtime
@ Aussie Infidel:
IIRC there was a Japanese two-man mini-sub that ran aground at Carson California. They were eyeballing the oil refineries.
Gitcha gitcha gris-gris gumbo yaya!
@ Aussie Infidel:
That’s why you get the big bucks. 🙂 I’m too optimistic about human nature. I’m more wary of US elite who have more power. I’d like a strong react to the Ukraine from the west. As a message to China re Taiwan. How strong that has to be I don’t know.
Now the Chinese I know are super nationalistic. It is hard to deter them unless one is working at their leadership level.
@ Bunk Five Hawks X:
Will have to listen to this more. I am a musical heathen. Only know him by one song.
new thread, yinz
https://www.blogmocracy.com/2022/03/01/post-invasion-open/