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Rumsfeld: Democracy in Iraq was a mistake

by Phantom Ace ( 7 Comments › )
Filed under George W. Bush, Iraq, Progressives, Special Report, Tranzis at June 10th, 2015 - 8:47 am

Although the Iraq War was justified as is any war against any Islamic entity is, the aftermath was just plain stupid. In a bout of Naivete the Bush administration led by Wilsonian Progressives actually believed that Iraqis wanted Democracy. As it turned out, the Shias wanted an Iranian puppet regime and the Sunnis eventually threw in with the Islamic State. Donald Rumsfeld admits trying to install democracy in Iraq was a mistake.

Washington (CNN)Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld insisted in an interview with CNN Tuesday that his recent comments about being skeptical about creating a democracy in Iraq did not contradict his previous positions about the Iraq War.

Rumsfeld also called the Times of London’s report over the weekend — which suggested his views were critical of his old boss, President George W. Bush — “ridiculous.”

“When we went in (to Iraq), my view — and I thought it was a broadly held view — was that the goal was to have Saddam Hussein not be there, and to have what replaced Saddam Hussein be a government that would not have weapons of mass destruction, that would not invade its neighbors, and that would be reasonably respectful of diverse ethnic groups — meaning the Sunni, the Shia, the Kurds,” Rumsfeld told CNN in a phone interview Tuesday afternoon. “And that was kind of the understanding I had and I thought everyone had.”

In a story titled “Bush was wrong on Iraq, says Rumsfeld,” Rumsfeld told The Times that “the idea that we could fashion a democracy in Iraq seemed to me unrealistic. I was concerned about it when I first heard those words … I’m not one who thinks that our particular template of democracy is appropriate for other countries at every moment of their histories.”


Rumsfeld, who served as Bush’s defense secretary from 2001 to 2006, also told The Times that removing former Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi was a mistake because it destabilized the region.

Sadly many in both parties particularly the GOP think imposing Democracy should be done at all costs.

Sen. Rand Paul makes the case against Iraq Intervention

by Phantom Ace ( 1 Comment › )
Filed under Al Qaeda, Iran, Iraq, Islamists, Libertarianism, Republican Party, Special Report at June 20th, 2014 - 8:14 am

As evil ISIS is, let us not lose sight at how evil Iran and their Iraqi Shiite lackeys are. It was Iran’s puppet PM of Iraq Nouri al-Maliki who instigated this sectarian war by promoting Shiite supremacy. While most  Republican politicians are salivating for another nation building exercise, Rand Paul once again takes a brave stand against the Jacobin/Trotskyite mindset that has infected the Right when it comes to foreign policy.

Though many claim the mantle of Ronald Reagan on foreign policy, too few look at how he really conducted it. The Iraq war is one of the best examples of where we went wrong because we ignored that.

In 1984, Reagan’s Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger developed the following criteria for war, primarily to avoid another Vietnam. His speech, “The Uses of Military Power,” boils down to this: The United States should not commit forces to combat unless the vital national interests of the U.S. or its allies are involved and only “with the clear intention of winning.” U.S. combat troops should be committed only with “clearly defined political and military objectives” and with the capacity to accomplish those objectives and with a “reasonable assurance” of the support of U.S. public opinion and Congress and only “as a last resort.”

Much of the rationale for going to war in 2003 did not measure up to the Weinberger Doctrine, and I opposed the Iraq war. I thought we needed to be more prudent about the weightiest decision a country can make. Like Reagan, I thought we should never be eager to go to war. And now, 11 years later, we are still dealing with the consequences.


Let me address both of these. First, we should not put any U.S. troops on the ground in Iraq, unless it is to secure or evacuate U.S. personnel and diplomatic facilities. And while we may not completely rule out airstrikes, there are many questions that need to be addressed first.

What would airstrikes accomplish? We know that Iran is aiding the Iraqi government against ISIS. Do we want to, in effect, become Iran’s air force? What’s in this for Iran? Why should we choose a side, and if we do, who are we really helping?


Saying the mess in Iraq is President Obama’s fault ignores what President Bush did wrong. Saying it is President Bush’s fault is to ignore all the horrible foreign policy decisions in Syria, Libya, Egypt and elsewhere under President Obama, many of which may have contributed to the current crisis in Iraq. For former Bush officials to blame President Obama or for Democrats to blame President Bush only serves as a reminder that both sides continue to get foreign policy wrong. We need a new approach, one that emulates Reagan’s policies, puts America first, seeks peace, faces war reluctantly, and when necessary acts fully and decisively.

Thank God Rand Paul is trying to resurrect the GOP’s traditional foreign policy stance that has been hijacked by a Jacobin/Trotskyite cabal. Both ISIS and Iran/Iraqi Shiites are enemies of the US. It is in our interest for both sides to continue killing each other. No Islamic nation is worth the blood of Americans.


How the Iraq War led to Obamacare

by Phantom Ace ( 212 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Cult of Obama, Democratic Party, George W. Bush, Iraq, Progressives, Republican Party at March 21st, 2013 - 1:00 pm

It has been 10 years since Bush made the fateful decsion to invade Iraq. At the time the pretext was WMDs but in reality it was Bush testing out the “Spread Democracy” canard that the GOP foreign policy establishment belives. As we have seen, Islamic nations do not want democracy, they want Sharia law and an Islamic government. Although militarily a success, the Iraq war was a political disaster for Republicans.

Ever since the Iraq war the GOP is no longer trusted by the American voting public on national security. It does not help that since Iraq the Republican Party’s response to foreign policy is for more war and nation building. This lack of credibility has enabled the rise of the progressive movement. There is a direct correlation between the Iraq war and Obamacare.

This week brought two milestones: It has been 10 years since the United States invaded Iraq, and three years since President Obama’s health care legislation became law. It’s fitting that the two events coincided, because it was the Iraq War that made the passage of Obamacare possible.

Ten years later, many supporters of the Iraq War spent this week either apologizing for or justifying their backing of the war. Personally, I supported the war at the time and the subsequent “surge” strategy, but in hindsight, given the absence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, it’s hard to see how the endeavor was worth the tremendous financial cost and American deaths involved.

As if that weren’t enough, one of the realities that should tip the scales for pro-war conservatives is that the Iraq War paved the way for one of the most significant expansions of the federal government in U.S. history.


It’s quite possible that a Democrat still would have won the White House in 2008, even had the Iraq War never been fought. But that Democrat would not likely have been Obama, nor anyone nearly as liberal. And were it not for the war, no Democratic president would have come into office with as much political capital — or with such large majorities in Congress — as Obama did.

It’s hard to see how Obamacare would have become law if Bush had never invaded Iraq. This is a bitter pill to swallow for those conservatives who supported the war and bitterly fought Obamacare.

Conservatives need to own up to the unpopularity of the Iraq war. The US gained very little out of that war and lost many lives and treasure. The Republican party has lost its edge for the time being on national security and is seen as nothing but nation builders. Its time for the Right to admit Iraq was a mistake and vow to never again get involved in nation building. It is time for the McCain Wing of the GOP to be neutered and silenced.

The Iraq war enabled a Far Leftist like Obama to become President. Without that war, its very probably we would not have President Obama. Sometimes wars have unintended consequences.

David Warren admits he was wrong about the concept of Democracy Spreading

by Phantom Ace ( 50 Comments › )
Filed under Conservatism, September 11, Special Report, Terrorism, The Political Right at March 1st, 2012 - 8:30 am

In the aftermath of 9/11 most the West’s elites and opinion makers believed Democracy could be exported to the islamic world. People like me, who spoke out against this concept, were called communists, Al-Qaeda supporters and even traitors. When I would express my method of retaliation, which was nation destruction, I would get called a Nazi. Critics of Bush’s “freedom” agenda were silenced and mocked in the Conservative blogosphere. Unfortunately, we have been vindicated but at the loss of 5,ooo American lives and 40,000 wounded in the Afghan and Iraq wars. Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh have turned on the war realizing its uselessness..

Ottowa Citizen columnist, David Warren, admits he was wrong on the concept of exporting Democracy. He had been a supporter of the freedom agenda, but admits it was wrong.

When one cannot trust one’s own allies not to murder one, one is in a fix. It is not an unusual fix, as the history of this planet goes, and particularly the history of Afghanistan. But the circumstances in which two American officers at the Interior Ministry in Kabul lost their lives on Saturday were discouraging. The assailant seems to have been an Afghan police intelligence officer. That says something. That he was able to escape after the shootings says more.

The incident was one of many which followed news of the Koran burnings at the Bagram airfield. That event, from what I can gather, was reported in detail within Afghanistan. I am not being droll here: I mean the fact that the tomes were tossed in the “burn pit” by mistake, having already been defaced by Taliban prisoners who were using them to pass messages, was widely circulated. To the western mind, this should make a difference in the perceived profanation: intention always counts.

But to the mind of many Afghan people, quite capable of stoning a woman to death for adultery after she has been raped, it made no difference. Nor, dare I add, could President Barack Obama’s public apology over the affair make any difference: for it was the kind of profanation for which apologies are not accepted. Obama, consciously doing “the right thing” to defuse tensions, is consistently out of his depth in dealing with these matters; for despite his own Islamic background in Kenya, and Indonesia, he is a product of Ivy League America. George W. Bush would have done the same.


As it is the 29th of February, let me perform an uncustomary retraction. Looking back over the history of the last 10 years, through which I have been writing these columns, I’m now persuaded of a major misjudgment. While I supported the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq — still do, and “would do it again” without qualms — I see ever more clearly that the “Bush doctrine” of exporting “democracy” was an unnecessary mistake.

Our interests in these countries were military; we had dangerous enemies to destroy. That was achieved with dispatch by U.S. and allied forces: with remarkably few casualties all round. We had a continued interest in preventing the return of the Taliban to power in Afghanistan, and in the destruction of Islamist cells in Iraq. All fine and good: these were necessary adventures, for the defence of legitimate western interests.

I feel no happiness that the Right is now agreeing with what I have been saying after 9/11. Too many Americans have died and the bad feelings caused by debating these wars has harmed many online friendships in the Conservative blogosphere. We should not cry over spilled milk. Instead the Right should vow to never again engage in nation building or exporting democracy. What we should do in retaliation against islamic terror is nation destruction.