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Caturday Goes Christmas Shopping

by 1389AD ( 108 Comments › )
Filed under Caturday, Economy, Humor, Open thread at December 4th, 2010 - 4:30 pm

For those who can afford to spend a little extra money just for lolz, the intertoobz offers many possibilities, among them the zany products on this site (click photos for the specifics):

Long-lasting Kitty IncrediBubbles for cats to chase

According to the site, these bubbles don’t immediately pop when they land on an object, thus giving your cat the opportunity to chase them around. Only problem is that the bubbles are peach-flavored, while most cats would probably prefer liver or fish. But then, their human caretakers might not be able to handle fish-scented bubble residue in their homes. Maybe catnip scent might be an idea for Version 2.0.

Plastic towel holder resembling a cat's posterior

Rather bizarre for a towel holder.

What’s with the emphasis on cat posteriors, anyway?

Pencil sharpener - insert pencil into rectum of plastic cat

Maybe humans have tail envy!

The tail actually wags on the next product:

Kit Cat Clock

On the other paw…

Those of us who are too broke to buy anybody anything this Christmas, if not for the foreseeable future, will have to get our laughs some other way. I offer the following:

Cat in file drawer, saying: Wikileekz cat iz in ur dokumentz...leekin'


Process Crimes and Moral Equivalence

by Kafir ( 140 Comments › )
Filed under Crime, Media, Military, Politics at December 3rd, 2010 - 2:00 pm

Blogmocracy in Action!
Guest post by: Flyovercountry!



Welcome to 2010, where all crimes and sins can be made equal, given the right set of logical acrobatics. Welcome to 2010, where if a prosecutor isn’t able to prove an actual crime has taken place, he will just charge someone, anyone, with a process crime. What is a process crime, you might ask. Simply put, it is a crime committed during an investigation of another crime. Three examples come to mind, each of them equally wrong. President Bill Clinton was charged with lying to a Grand Jury about whether or not he had sex with the help. This occurred while he was being investigated for the White Water Land Scandal. There was insufficient evidence to charge him or Hillary with any crime related to that, so a frustrated Ken Starr charged him with perjury, which occurred in the process of the crime which didn’t occur, (at least it wasn’t committed by the Clintons.) Martha Stewart was investigated for insider trading. The prosecutor was unable to gain enough evidence to prove that the crime of insider trading even occurred. Martha was charged and convicted on a charge of Obstruction of Justice, for not answering the Federal Prosecutors requests for information in a timely manner. In Stewart’s case, she was charged and convinced in a process crime where the underlying investigation revealed that no crime had actually taken place. Scooter Libby, was charged in a process crime of Lying to a Federal Investigator for leaking the name of a non-covert intelligence operative, where once again, that investigation showed that no actual crime had occurred.

All three of these crimes were wrong to prosecute. This conversation is not solely about process crimes. It is also about moral equivalence. Moral equivalence is the thing which upsets me about the political left more than any other. Moral equivalence occurs when we allow ourselves to suspend discriminating thought. Here is an extreme example of moral equivalence. When somebody notices that a group of religious zealots hijacks and flies airplanes into buildings killing everyone of the airplane and a whole bunch of people in the building. When they further notice that those religious zealots are indeed Muslims chanting, “Allahu Akbar.” They might be inclined to say, we need to protect ourselves against Muslim Zealots, there will always be a group of people who will bleat on about those annoying Family Planning Picketers being just the same, and that we need to be just as wary of them as well. After all, one religious zealot is the same as another. Well, not quite. While the picketers are supremely annoying, they are actively attempting and succeeding at killing 3000 random people. It is true that the picketing zealots will occasionally commit acts of violence, which I do not condone by the way, typically their violence occurs at night and is exacted on buildings they believe will be empty, or targeted against individuals. Don’t misunderstand me, they deserve to be punished for their crimes. I’m just trying to point out that the depravity is not equal, or even close. There are degrees of wickedness.

Which brings me to this.

The Wiki leaks scandal, and the prosecution of Scooter Libby are not the same, not by a long shot. first off, Scooter Libby did not leak the name of Valerie Plame. Richard Armitage leaked the name of Valerie Plame. The prosecutor knew that Armitage was the name leaker prior to his even interviewing Libby, which by the way makes this process crime even worse to prosecute than the others. Richard Armitage was a Clinton appointee who was kept in his role by Bush 43 at the recommendation of Secretary Powell. He leaked Plame’s name because he was simply a gossip. He did not have some raging axe to grind. He didn’t have some nefarious scheme to hurt the country or strike a blow against the current administration. He just had a big mouth, and liked being the guy who knew everything. In retrospect, he probably wasn’t a good fit for the State Department. Wiki Leaks occurred because an army Iintelligence Officer hated his country, and the Army in which he served. He had a nefarious scheme to do damage to his country and to do damage to the Army. His accomplice had a nefarious desire to damage any government he could damage, and has vowed to find ways to similarly damage other governments at his first opportunity. That Alan Colmes, and by proxy, people on the political left are trying to equate these two events is intellectually dishonest. By printing these leaked documents, the NYT is damaging the country. By printing the name of Valerie Plame, the NYT damaged only Valerie Plame, and the political left. Valerie Plame by the way called attention to herself, by printing an Op Ed in the same NYT attacking the Bush Administration during a Presidential Campaign. Had she and her husband not posted an Op Ed, her name would still be a super secret today.

-Flyovercountry

(cross posted at: Musings of a Mad Conservative)

Torture is allowed if the victims are Christian Serbs

by 1389AD ( 196 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Dhimmitude, Europe, Jihad, Leftist-Islamic Alliance, Orthodox Christianity, Serbia, Tranzis at December 2nd, 2010 - 11:30 am

From the 1389 Blog mailbox

A Serbian correspondent has called my attention to this blog post at Julia Gorin’s Republican Riot:

Torture, Evidence-tampering, Beatings, Bribes, Blackmail and Bullying Continue at our International Kangaroo Court: Prosecutors have Witness Kidnapped, Falsely Imprisoned, and Family Detained and Threatened: All in a Day’s Work when a Serb is on Trial

Posted by Julia Gorin

If Americans had any interest in what the future of jurisprudence — and justice — looks like, they would tune in to the Hague’s International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia, where Orwell’s world has been a reality for the past 17 years. The ICTY is the body that was set up to try cases whose supposed weightiness was compared to “Nuremberg II.” But so ignored by the public and media alike have the proceedings been, that no one even notices the perversion of jurisprudence and evisceration of justice that have been taking place there.

In a follow-up to the witness intimidation and other prosecutorial misconduct that the Hague itself has been compelled to investigate — that is, to give its best impression of investigating — we have a few updates, including a recent item from Andy Wilcoxson exposing perhaps one of the more blatant corruptions of the Hague.

Balkans: Prosecutors try to stop intimidation probe

The Hague, 21 Oct. (AKI) – The prosecutors of the United Nations war crimes tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) on Wednesday appealed a court decision to launch an investigation into claims that they pressured, intimidated and tried to bribe witnesses.

Several prosecution witnesses in the trial of Serbian nationalist leader Vojislav Seselj, accused of crimes against Muslims and Croats during the 1991-1995 war that followed the disintegration of the former Yugoslavia, told the court they were pressured, intimidated and even offered bribes.

The presiding judge in Seselj’s trial, Jean Claude Antonetti has ordered the tribunal Secretariat to name “amicus curiae”, whose identity will remain confidential, to investigate the claims.

In their appeal, the prosecutors said on Wednesday that the court paid unnecessary attention to “false and unbelievable accusations of people, many of who are closely connected to the political party of the indictee”.

Seselj, the leader of the nationalist Serbian Radical Party (SRS), has been charged with crimes allegedly committed by paramilitaries recruited by SRS, but he himself never carried arms.

Seselj voluntarily surrendered to the tribunal in February 2003 and denied the charges. He claims he was tried for “verbal offence” because the prosecutors had no other arguments in the case.

The prosecutors asked the appeals panel to annul the decision to carry out an investigation, saying witnesses’ claims were “unbelievable and contradictory”.

So here’s just a sampling of the kinds of shenanigans the prosecutors would like dismissed — and no wonder. It of course applies to a different trial — the shocking experiences of a witness in the Karadzic case — and that’s what underscores just how pervasive the Hague’s crimes are:

Karadzic Trial Witness Alleges Extreme Prosecutorial Misconduct (Oct. 18)
Written by: Andy Wilcoxson
Hearing Date: June 30, 2010

On June 30th…the testimony of former Bosnian-Serb justice minister Momcilo Mandic began…Mandic began by telling the court that he would rather testify as a witness for the Chamber, than a witness for the Prosecution.

Mandic explained that the Prosecutor “threatened me, the associates of Mr. Tieger, they told me that if I didn’t come in to testify, I would be incarcerated.”

Mandic was also persecuted by the NATO puppet regime in Belgrade. He said, “In 2003 I was suspected of aiding and abetting and hiding Dr. Karadzic. I spent five months because of that in a solitary confinement cell in Belgrade, and none of my family members could visit me. And The Hague investigators came to see me. The Prosecutor’s investigator, that is, were allowed to come and see me.”

He said, “I was told that if I failed to co-operate and failed to tell them where Dr. Karadzic was, that I would be an accused before this Court and that I would be accused and found guilty by a Serbian Court.”

Mandic told the Tribunal that “My two sons were held in custody. And John Ruttel, one of the [OTP-Office of the Prosecutor] investigators, said to my son that he would be released if I were to come to Sarajevo.”

After the Serbian police released him, Mandic said, “I was kidnapped, as a citizen of Montenegro, and transferred in the space of two hours to a prison in Sarajevo, without any extradition proceedings or anything else. And in the prison there and in the Court of Bosnia-Herzegovina, in the evening hours I was taken out and was interrogated by the operatives and investigators of The Hague Tribunal, or, rather, the OTP. He said, “they asked me, once again, about Dr. Karadzic.”

Mandic said, “I wasn’t able to assist the OTP by telling them anything, because from 1996 I have had nothing to do with Dr. Karadzic. I wasn’t in contact with him at all. I tried to present my arguments and to explain this to them, but they just didn’t want to listen.”

He told the court that “The [Hague] investigators told me that I would be taken to court in Bosnia-Herzegovina and that the prosecutor of the BH Court would raise an indictment against me, and that I would be sentenced to a prison term of eight years. When I said that they had no grounds for filing a lawsuit against me, they said that they would find grounds and that that wasn’t important.”

Sure enough, Mandic told the Tribunal that “everything those operatives told me would happen did happen. I was prosecuted because of the commercial bank in Srpsko Sarajevo, which is owned by me, that I provided credits and loans to firms and companies which assisted Dr. Karadzic. And I was found guilty and given a prison term of eight years. I served five years.”

He was ultimately released from prison when Karadzic was captured and it was obvious that Mandic hadn’t been harboring him. Mandic said, “It was established that I was found guilty of a crime that didn’t exist and that it was all bureaucracy and false testimony on the part of false witnesses. And as an American citizen who had immunity, this person [who perjured herself with her testimony against Mandic] went to Dallas, Texas, and she even took some money from my bank. [The woman in question is named Toby Robinson, who in 2006 was appointed by the UN High Representative in Bosnia to liquidate Mandic’s bank. Interestingly, notes Wilcoxson, she got the job after her predecessor was beaten up and resigned.]

Much more here.

What’s to learn from this?

There’s a lesson a day here. I can’t even begin to scratch the surface. Just for starters:

Judicial corruption has been part of the human condition as long as we have had judges. That is why judges must always be accountable to the members of the public who may appear before them. When judges cannot be recalled from office by the citizenry, and when there is no practical way to remove judges who hold themselves above the law, or who prove to be incompetent, corrupt, cruel, or even insane, the situation quickly becomes intolerable. It is far worse when those judges are themselves tools of a corrupt governing body which serves at the behest of a foreign power. In this instance, the corrupt governing body is the Hague Tribunal, which is under US control. The Hague Tribunal was set up while Bill Clinton was president. But by now, the Obama Administration, with Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, has clearly lost the consent of the governed, and is, for the time being, accountable to no one.

While I have no sympathy for anyone involved in the Wikileaks debacle, including the New York Times, those leaks confirmed much that we already knew about the US government and its unwillingness to confront Islam. No, the Wikileaks documents released to the public do not go back far enough to reveal the evil that the Clinton Administration did to the Serbs. (Nor can we expect the same media organizations that had worked hand-in-glove with the Clinton Administration in smearing the Serbs so as to justify the war that the Clintons wanted, to release documents that would have exposed their own wrongdoing.) The Wikileaks documents do confirm that the government, and the news media, have been lying to us at every turn. They confirm that the US State Department is, at best, feckless and incompetent, as well as beholden to our Muslim adversaries. To put it bluntly, the US government threw the Serbs under the bus during the Clinton Administration to appease Muslim countries, and has kept them there ever since. We are now doing the very same thing to Israel, and it’s disgraceful.

If we, the American public, ever hope to win the war against Islamic aggression, we must stop persecuting the Christian Serbs on behalf of the jihadis in the Balkans. As long as we are fighting on both sides of the same war, we are going to lose that war. Yes, that means admitting we were wrong, with all that this implies. We must repent of our wrongdoing and stop being self-righteous. Will we try the Clintons and other politicians involved in this debacle for having participated in war crimes against the Serbs? What about the media shills who faked all sorts of flimsy evidence against the Serbs? What about George Soros, who bankrolled much of the effort? At the very least, can we expose their wrongdoing for all to see, to lessen the chance of it happening again anytime soon?


Wikileaks, You Write the Post!

by coldwarrior ( 190 Comments › )
Filed under Military, Politics at November 29th, 2010 - 8:30 am

Well, I am not going to go into the details of all of the leaks here. I want to turn this into an open on this topic.

What do you think the damage will be, have you read any ‘no kidding, sherlock!’ leaks? If so, what are they?

What should happen, if anything, to the leakers? Does this rise to treason? If so, where? And what are the punishments?

Will this be used to take away free speech rights? Will this cause governments to take for more control the internet?

Does anyone have any other questions about the leaks or their impacts that we can kick around here?

The Blogmocracy participants write the post in this case.