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“Moderate” Fatah Official: “Our Goal is Not Peace, but Rather Palestine”

by WrathofG-d ( 36 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Democratic Party, Fatah, Gaza, Hamas, Islamists, Israel, Jihad, Judaism, Middle East, Palestinians, Politics, Religion, Republican Party, Terrorism, United Nations, World at July 13th, 2009 - 10:47 am

Photo:<!--###IMAGE_BRIEF###-->Palestinian Media Watch once again proves that the terrorists from Fatah (“Moderate” Mahmood Abbas/Abu Mazen’s Party and the ones the U.S. are building a professional army for, with your tax dollars), openly admit their true intent, and state that any “peace” created will only be a means to their ultimate goal of destroying Israel.

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This discussion on public “Palestinian” T.V.  again proves that despite the West’s continuous desires, Fatah is no less committed to Israel’s destruction than Hamas.

Kifah Radaydeh, the deputy head of the Jerusalem chapter of Fatah, says openly that the PA will resume violence and terror against Israel when Fatah is “capable,” and “according to what seems right.” “It has been said that we are negotiating for peace,” she further stated, “but our goal has never been peace. Peace is a means; the goal is Palestine.”

Just like their founder Yassir Arafat, they know to say one thing to the usefull West, and to work for another with their fellow Arab Muslims.  Kifah Radaydeh however is not a lone “extremist”, as her statements are part of the overall Fatah policy.

Fatah MP Najat Abu Bakr said in a PA TV interview last year that Fatah’s goal remains the destruction of Israel, but that their political plan is to focus on returning to the 1967 borders. He stated “It doesn’t mean that we don’t want the 1948 borders,” Abu Bakr said, referring to all of Israel,” but rather that “our current political program is to say that we want the 1967 borders.”

Also, just four months ago, senior PA official Mohammed Dahlan stressed that Fatah adamantly refuses to recognize Israel, and that even the Palestinian Authority’s recognition is only for the sake of receiving foreign aid: “…the Fatah movement does not recognize Israel, even today… [such recognition is] required of the government but not of the Fatah, so that this government will be able to offer the necessary assistance, to carry out the necessary reconstruction, to offer assistance to the sick, to bring relief to needy families… This can be dealt with [only] by a government that has relations with the international community, one that is acceptable to the international community, in order that we can work together and benefit from the international community.”

{A Related Article From Arutz Sheva}

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The terrorists of Fatah/PLO have been lying to the West, and getting away with it, for decades.  It is never the Arabs whom state that they are going to accept a “two-state” solution, or “peace” as their ultimate goal.  This is simply what the West, including our current administration, wants to hear – so they do. Even today the West demands a “settlement freeze” from Israel, stating it is a requirement for “peace” even though the Phakestinians openly state that this won’t make a difference.  On these confused beliefs of what the Phakestinians want, and what will bring about a resolution to the Arab-Israel conflict, despite the Arab’s own statements to the contrary, the EU is even calling on the UN to impose “peace” on Israel.

If the world listened to the actual words of the Arab/Muslims, and not just what they want to hear, they would see why all of their attempts at gaining “peace in the Middle East” have failed miserably.  The Arab/Muslim goal since the increased influx of Jews to the region, (even before 1948) has always been the same: destroy Israel (kill the Jews).  Carl in Jerusalem posted a brilliant video showing how little the aims of the PLO and Fatah have changed over the last sixty years since Israel’s creation, and another evidencing how the charges Israel was being called to answer to fifty years ago are remarkably similar to the charges made against her today.

The PLO/Fatah/Abu Mazen/Mahmood Abbas policy hasn’t changed, and was placed on paper, and made “official” in the 1974 PLO Phased Plan.

They keep saying it……so when will the West start listening?

President Obama Meets With Abu Mazen

by WrathofG-d ( 104 Comments › )
Filed under Anti-Jihad, Barack Obama, Islamic hypocrisy, Islamic Invasion, Islamists, Israel, Jihad, Judaism, Palestinians, Religion, Terrorism, United Nations, World at May 28th, 2009 - 12:49 pm

Today, President Barack Obama met with Phakestinian “President”, and leader of Fatah terrorist organization, Abu Mazen (now being called Mahmoud Abbas).  The numerous reports around the globe are stating that Abu Mazen/Mahmoud Abbas will be discussing with Obama how they can work together to “stop all Jewish ‘settlement’ growth” in Judea, and Samaria, and force Israel to accept a “Palestinian” state within their borders despite any legitimate security concerns that they might have.

Following are numerous news reports that do just that:  Al-Bawaba, Christian Science Monitor, ABC, Allheadlinenews, AP, Ynet, Politico.  There are many more.

The main issue that the U.S. now seems to be concentrating on is Jewish “settlements” as being the core stumbling block in our eternal quest for Jewish-Islamic Middle East peace.  This claim is ridiculous, as the building of homes is not nearly as much as an international concern (or it should be) as the murder of innocent civilians.

The concentration on “settlements” however is not new -it has been the Arab talking-point from before the modern state of Israel was founded.  It was originally a complaint about Jewish settlement in pre-1948 that the Arabs used as an excuse to murder Jews, then after 1948 it was Jewish settlement in general (the Creation of Israel).  This caused many conflicts, much violence, and ultimately the 1967 Six Day War.  Only thereafter did the Arab complaint regarding “Jewish settlement” come to refer to post-1967 Jewish communities in Judea, and Samaria. (as a starting point to getting back to fighting about the “settlement” pre 1948)

Accordingly, it seems that the U.S. has now bought into the Arab campaign to end Jewish “settlement”, and thus work for the destruction of Israel in general (whether the U.S. is aware of it or not).  The concern is not the health, or safety of innocent civilians (Israeli or Arab) through the ending of terrorism, but now a campaign against Jewish ‘settlement’ and specifically growth.  With zero emphasis on whether or not this tact is even going to end the conflict, or save lives.

In fact, as is evidenced by the articles above, the U.S. has actually taken a policy against Jewish “natural growth”.  But hey, why not concentrate on the building of homes by Jews among Islamists as the core reason there is no peace – we saw how much peace was achieved from ethnically cleansing Gaza of all Jews, and Jewish settlement.
“natural growth” of ‘settlements”

Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, and the rest of the Obama Administration are leading the charge against what they are calling “natural growth” of Jewish neighborhoods in post 1967 Israel.  But what does “natural growth” mean?  In short, natural grown is the normal expansion of communities due to natural events such as marriage, and child birth.  Therefore, the U.S. is taking a policy against marriage, and child birth for Jews living in Judea, and Samaria.

Could you imagine if this demand was made on Muslims in pre-1967 Israel? (or anywhere else in the World for that matter?)

You can read all about this issue on Israel Matsav, Israel National News, and many other sources.  Thus, I am going to concentrate on a group more vilified in the world by the MSM, EU, U.S., and UN than anyone else – Jewish Residents of Judea & Samaria.  Who really are these “settlers”, what do these “evil” “settlements” look like, what is this illegal “outpost” or “settlement”?

One of the most spoken/complained about “settlements” is Hebron.  Also for reference, here are a few pictures of those “evil” “settlers” – the ’cause of all the strife in the middle east’, and who now no longer have a right to procreate.

Jewish "settlers" celebrate yom yerushalayim 2006

Jewish settlers in the West Bank: "We expect these people to obey the law."

(More info to follow within the comments. Expect continuous updates as time permits.)

U.S. Training “Palestinian” Army; Warns They Might Become Terrorists

by WrathofG-d ( 15 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Democratic Party, Egypt, George W. Bush, Islamic Finance, Islamic Terrorism, Islamists, Israel, Jihad, Leftist-Islamic Alliance, Middle East, Military, Palestinians, Politics, Republican Party, Terrorism at May 15th, 2009 - 11:31 am

Since at least 2006, the U.S. has been funding and training -to the tune of 161 million American tax dollars so far- a huge, and professional “Palestinian” army to take over when if they get another state.  The individual heading this future debacle is Lt. Gen. Keith Dayton, U.S. security coordinator for Israel and the Palestinian Authority.   Lt. Gen Dayton has lived and worked in Jerusalem and across the West Bank, overseeing the creation of three “Palestinian” battalions of troops, hand-picked in the West Bank, trained at an academy in Jordan, and then deployed in the Judea and Samaria.  These three 500-man battalions are intended to grow, to as many as ten battalions.  During a speak to the  Washington Institute for Near East Policy (“WINEP”) Dayton stated that their mission is to “create a Palestinian state.

Frighteningly, the training which has already occurred is only the beginning.  While speaking in Tukarm (In Judea/Samaria) Lt. Gen Dayton stated that “If it goes the way the administration has asked for, we will accelerate dramatically what we are doing here in terms of training and equipment, and filling in the gaps in between.”

The additional training program requires approval from Congress for more funding that would allow the construction for more “Palestinian” military bases in Judea and Samaria.  Without defining the cost of the additional training and construction, Dayton stated it will entail “more financial support than we have ever had before.”  That is quite a statement about a group that has received more than 1 billions dollars per year from the U.S. alone.

Both the past Bush administration and the current Obama government declared the training helps the standing and security of PA Chairman and Fatah leader Mahmoud Abbas, who they foolishly consider a moderate peace partner for Israel, despite his refusal to recognize Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state, and his “government’s” policy of killing people who sell land to Jews.

This brilliant idea was born of the naive belief that these troops would primarily be deployed against two targets in Judea & Samaria: criminal gangs, and Hamas.  Lt. Gen. Dayton is no dummy.  He fully recognizes that by organizing and training thousands of highly organized “Palestinians”, professionally led, he is creating in effect a nationalist army that like all other attempts to train, fund, and outfit “Palestinians” will be used against Israel.  From his comments to WINEP, you would think that this was actually his intent.

Responding to a question from Paul Wolfowitz, Dayton responded to these concerns by issuing a not-so vailed threat to Israel stating that:  “the troops can only be strung along for just so long…there is perhaps a two-year shelf life on being told that you’re creating a state, when you’re not.”

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‘PA Army May Rebel’ if Israel Does not Agree to Peace Demands

His comments were tantamount to a warning that a rebellion is around the corner if Israel does not agree to PA demands, according to investigative journalist Robert Dreyfuss, writing in The Nation magazine.

“To my ears, at least, his subtle warning is that if concrete progress isn’t made toward a Palestinian state, the very troops Dayton is assembling could rebel,” wrote Dreyfuss, who also has authored a book blaming the United States and Israel for having allegedly encouraged the existence of Hamas as a way to weaken former Palestinian Liberation Organization leader Yasser Arafat.

In his speech, Dayton did not detail methods used by the PA security forces, but Human Watch Rights has accused the PA and Hamas of resorting torture to as well as summary executions.  One PA Arab is on death row for the stated crime of selling property to Jews.

He focused on the “national security interest of the United States to help resolve the Israeli-Palestinian dispute” and his re-shaping the PA forces. He said that his position as U.S. Security Coordinator was created “to allay Israeli fears about the nature and capabilities of the Palestinian security forces,” a term used instead of “soldiers” in order not to conjure up an image of a military force in the PA.

However, his comment on the consequences of the failure to establish a new PA state indicated that the PA army – or special force –  might use its counterterrorist training to attack Israel as well as possibly rebel against the PA.

Several terrorist attacks and attempted attacks the past two years have involved PA security forces. In January, 2008, a PA security officer, a PA clerk and a third terrorist were involved in the murders of Ahikam Amihai and David Rubin who were hiking near Hevron. One of the victims managed to kill one of the attackers before succumbing to his own wounds. A third youth escaped unharmed.

{The Rest of The Article}

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Beyond the obvious problems with this scenario (the cost to the American tax payer, the threat to Israel) the training of these troops actually directly conflicts with the “Palestinian” responsibilities per the Oslo Accords -signed by them in 1993 -which limit “Palestinian” military activities. So, once again, while the U.S. is insisting that Israel follow past agreements, they are allowing (and in this case directly assisting) the Arabs flaunt their obligations.


This isn’t the first time that the U.S., or Israel has tried the “let’s train them, and arm them; what could go wrong” tactic towards Arab-Israel peace.  If it were, I just might give it the benefit of the doubt -because I want peace as much, if not more, than the next person.

In only 2006, after the U.S. transferred weapons, money, and training to Abu Mazen’s (Mahmood Abbas) personal “Force 17”, the “Palestinians” stated that they would never use any force against their own people, or Hamas, but instead would us all weapons transferred from the U.S. against Israel.  True to their word, not too long thereafter the weapons were used in a terrorist attack against Israel.

In 2007, (after numerous weapon transfers from the U.S. and Israel) while Hamas was squabbling with Fatah, Palestinian Authority President, Abu Mazen, called on Palestinian factions to put an end to weeks of infighting and instead “raise rifles against the Israeli occupation.”

When will we ever learn?

PA Representative: “Two State Solution Will Kill Israel”

by WrathofG-d ( 18 Comments › )
Filed under Ahmadinejad, Iran, Islamic hypocrisy, Islamic Terrorism, Islamists, Israel, Jihad, Judaism, Lebanon, Middle East, Palestinians, Terrorism, World at May 14th, 2009 - 11:17 am

When discussing the Israel-Arab conflict, everyone today will tell you that the two-state solution is the only resolution to end the conflict.  Although this belief is presently considered the internationally accepted view, it was originally the Arab talking-point.  Naive westerners today believe that the Arabs want a two-state solution as a final resolution to end the fighting, and to create a final status.  This however is not what the Arabs want, nor what they say to each other, and  it never has been.  They don’t want peace with Israel, they want to destroy Israel.  The tactics might have changed, but the goal has not!  This won’t stop them from lying to naive western politicians, and slobbering western journalists however because doing so has been the most successful tactic in helping them achieve their final goal.

What the Arabs are willing to say to their own however, has always tended to be more candid.

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Palestinian Authority Police Salute(IsraelNN.com) Palestinian Authority representative in Lebanon Abbas Zaki says the two-state solution is his preferred approach, as it will lead to Israel’s collapse.

Speaking with Lebanese ANB Television on May 7, Zaki said that any ceasefire, or hudna, deal with Israel is not desirable.  Instead, the long-time PLO member said, “we must go towards the two-state solution, a solution that even [Iranian President Mahmoud] Ahmedinajad supports.”

“In my opinion,” Zaki explained, “with such a solution, Israel will collapse. Because if they get out of Jerusalem, what will be left of all their [the Jews’] talk about the Promised Land and the Chosen Nation?  What will be with all the sacrifices they gave and then they are told to leave?”

The two-state solution, supported by the United States and most of the world, calls for a Palestinian Authority state in Judea and Samaria, leaving Israel barely 11 miles wide in some areas.

Zaki said that Jews and Israelis “perceive of Jerusalem as having a spiritual status. They relate to Judea and Samaria as a historic dream. If the Jews leave these places, the Zionist idea will begin to collapse of itself – and then we will move forward.”

The interview was brought to the Western eye by Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI).

Zaki has made similar points before.  In 2008, the former Palestinian Legislative Council member for Hevron, former Fatah operations head, and current PLO Central Council member said, “When the ideology of Israel collapses, and we take, at least, Jerusalem, the Israeli ideology will collapse in its entirety, and we will begin to progress with our own ideology, Allah willing, and drive them out of all of Palestine.” Zaki also headed the PLO Lebanon Committee and the Palestine National Liberation Army’s political commissariat.

Asked then if he believes in weapons or negotiations, Zaki replied, “The use of weapons alone will not bring results, and the use of politics without weapons will not bring results. We act on the basis of our extensive experience. We analyze our situation carefully. We know what climate leads to victory and what climate leads to suicide. We talk politics, but our principles are clear. It was our pioneering leader, Yasser Arafat, who persevered with this revolution, when empires collapsed.

(The Article)

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To those willing to be realistic when discussing the Arab-Israel conflict, Zaki’s statements are not surprising nor new.  It has always been the goal of the Arabs (who then created the “Palestinians”) to destroy Israel, never to make peace.

They tried all out war, and failed miserably.  Therefore, they changed their tactics to terrorism.  Although reasonably successful on this front, it wasn’t accomplishing their ultimate goal of total destruction of the Jewish State, so they have moved on to what we could cynically call diplomacy.

As Zaki alludes to, none of this is by chance or fate – it is all ACCORDING TO THE 1974 P.L.O. PHASED PLAN for Israel’s destruction!