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“Moderate” Fatah Official: “Our Goal is Not Peace, but Rather Palestine”

by WrathofG-d ( 36 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Democratic Party, Fatah, Gaza, Hamas, Islamists, Israel, Jihad, Judaism, Middle East, Palestinians, Politics, Religion, Republican Party, Terrorism, United Nations, World at July 13th, 2009 - 10:47 am

Photo:<!--###IMAGE_BRIEF###-->Palestinian Media Watch once again proves that the terrorists from Fatah (“Moderate” Mahmood Abbas/Abu Mazen’s Party and the ones the U.S. are building a professional army for, with your tax dollars), openly admit their true intent, and state that any “peace” created will only be a means to their ultimate goal of destroying Israel.

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This discussion on public “Palestinian” T.V.  again proves that despite the West’s continuous desires, Fatah is no less committed to Israel’s destruction than Hamas.

Kifah Radaydeh, the deputy head of the Jerusalem chapter of Fatah, says openly that the PA will resume violence and terror against Israel when Fatah is “capable,” and “according to what seems right.” “It has been said that we are negotiating for peace,” she further stated, “but our goal has never been peace. Peace is a means; the goal is Palestine.”

Just like their founder Yassir Arafat, they know to say one thing to the usefull West, and to work for another with their fellow Arab Muslims.  Kifah Radaydeh however is not a lone “extremist”, as her statements are part of the overall Fatah policy.

Fatah MP Najat Abu Bakr said in a PA TV interview last year that Fatah’s goal remains the destruction of Israel, but that their political plan is to focus on returning to the 1967 borders. He stated “It doesn’t mean that we don’t want the 1948 borders,” Abu Bakr said, referring to all of Israel,” but rather that “our current political program is to say that we want the 1967 borders.”

Also, just four months ago, senior PA official Mohammed Dahlan stressed that Fatah adamantly refuses to recognize Israel, and that even the Palestinian Authority’s recognition is only for the sake of receiving foreign aid: “…the Fatah movement does not recognize Israel, even today… [such recognition is] required of the government but not of the Fatah, so that this government will be able to offer the necessary assistance, to carry out the necessary reconstruction, to offer assistance to the sick, to bring relief to needy families… This can be dealt with [only] by a government that has relations with the international community, one that is acceptable to the international community, in order that we can work together and benefit from the international community.”

{A Related Article From Arutz Sheva}

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The terrorists of Fatah/PLO have been lying to the West, and getting away with it, for decades.  It is never the Arabs whom state that they are going to accept a “two-state” solution, or “peace” as their ultimate goal.  This is simply what the West, including our current administration, wants to hear – so they do. Even today the West demands a “settlement freeze” from Israel, stating it is a requirement for “peace” even though the Phakestinians openly state that this won’t make a difference.  On these confused beliefs of what the Phakestinians want, and what will bring about a resolution to the Arab-Israel conflict, despite the Arab’s own statements to the contrary, the EU is even calling on the UN to impose “peace” on Israel.

If the world listened to the actual words of the Arab/Muslims, and not just what they want to hear, they would see why all of their attempts at gaining “peace in the Middle East” have failed miserably.  The Arab/Muslim goal since the increased influx of Jews to the region, (even before 1948) has always been the same: destroy Israel (kill the Jews).  Carl in Jerusalem posted a brilliant video showing how little the aims of the PLO and Fatah have changed over the last sixty years since Israel’s creation, and another evidencing how the charges Israel was being called to answer to fifty years ago are remarkably similar to the charges made against her today.

The PLO/Fatah/Abu Mazen/Mahmood Abbas policy hasn’t changed, and was placed on paper, and made “official” in the 1974 PLO Phased Plan.

They keep saying it……so when will the West start listening?

PA Representative: “Two State Solution Will Kill Israel”

by WrathofG-d ( 18 Comments › )
Filed under Ahmadinejad, Iran, Islamic hypocrisy, Islamic Terrorism, Islamists, Israel, Jihad, Judaism, Lebanon, Middle East, Palestinians, Terrorism, World at May 14th, 2009 - 11:17 am

When discussing the Israel-Arab conflict, everyone today will tell you that the two-state solution is the only resolution to end the conflict.  Although this belief is presently considered the internationally accepted view, it was originally the Arab talking-point.  Naive westerners today believe that the Arabs want a two-state solution as a final resolution to end the fighting, and to create a final status.  This however is not what the Arabs want, nor what they say to each other, and  it never has been.  They don’t want peace with Israel, they want to destroy Israel.  The tactics might have changed, but the goal has not!  This won’t stop them from lying to naive western politicians, and slobbering western journalists however because doing so has been the most successful tactic in helping them achieve their final goal.

What the Arabs are willing to say to their own however, has always tended to be more candid.

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Palestinian Authority Police Salute(IsraelNN.com) Palestinian Authority representative in Lebanon Abbas Zaki says the two-state solution is his preferred approach, as it will lead to Israel’s collapse.

Speaking with Lebanese ANB Television on May 7, Zaki said that any ceasefire, or hudna, deal with Israel is not desirable.  Instead, the long-time PLO member said, “we must go towards the two-state solution, a solution that even [Iranian President Mahmoud] Ahmedinajad supports.”

“In my opinion,” Zaki explained, “with such a solution, Israel will collapse. Because if they get out of Jerusalem, what will be left of all their [the Jews’] talk about the Promised Land and the Chosen Nation?  What will be with all the sacrifices they gave and then they are told to leave?”

The two-state solution, supported by the United States and most of the world, calls for a Palestinian Authority state in Judea and Samaria, leaving Israel barely 11 miles wide in some areas.

Zaki said that Jews and Israelis “perceive of Jerusalem as having a spiritual status. They relate to Judea and Samaria as a historic dream. If the Jews leave these places, the Zionist idea will begin to collapse of itself – and then we will move forward.”

The interview was brought to the Western eye by Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI).

Zaki has made similar points before.  In 2008, the former Palestinian Legislative Council member for Hevron, former Fatah operations head, and current PLO Central Council member said, “When the ideology of Israel collapses, and we take, at least, Jerusalem, the Israeli ideology will collapse in its entirety, and we will begin to progress with our own ideology, Allah willing, and drive them out of all of Palestine.” Zaki also headed the PLO Lebanon Committee and the Palestine National Liberation Army’s political commissariat.

Asked then if he believes in weapons or negotiations, Zaki replied, “The use of weapons alone will not bring results, and the use of politics without weapons will not bring results. We act on the basis of our extensive experience. We analyze our situation carefully. We know what climate leads to victory and what climate leads to suicide. We talk politics, but our principles are clear. It was our pioneering leader, Yasser Arafat, who persevered with this revolution, when empires collapsed.

(The Article)

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To those willing to be realistic when discussing the Arab-Israel conflict, Zaki’s statements are not surprising nor new.  It has always been the goal of the Arabs (who then created the “Palestinians”) to destroy Israel, never to make peace.

They tried all out war, and failed miserably.  Therefore, they changed their tactics to terrorism.  Although reasonably successful on this front, it wasn’t accomplishing their ultimate goal of total destruction of the Jewish State, so they have moved on to what we could cynically call diplomacy.

As Zaki alludes to, none of this is by chance or fate – it is all ACCORDING TO THE 1974 P.L.O. PHASED PLAN for Israel’s destruction!

The New “Two-State Solution” is 87 Years Old

by WrathofG-d ( 15 Comments › )
Filed under Islamists, Israel, Palestinians, Politics, Terrorism at March 30th, 2009 - 3:45 pm

We are constantly told that the “Two-State” solution is the only path to peace between the Arabs and Israel, and that if it were just tried, and the Arabs were genuinely offered their state, we would finally have peace in the Middle East.  This presumption is the basis for the often repeated falsehood that the “settlements”, or “occupation” are the major stumbling blocks on the path to peace.   The problem with this logic however is that it is not based in history.  This so-called ‘new’ revolutionary concept of a just peace by way of a “Two State Solution” is eighty-seven years old, has been attempted numerous times before, and always yields the same result: failure! Bush, and now Obama naively insist on clinging to this fallacy of the “two-state solution”, and I am afraid that with history as my guide, will only continue to make things worse.

The following is a great primer on the real history of Israel and the Arabs, and explanation as to why peace for Israel has yet to be realized.

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The Two – State Solution is 87 Years Old

By Victor Sharpe

In 1920, Great Britain was given the responsibility by the League of Nations to oversee the Mandate over the geographical territory known as Palestine with the express intention of reconstituting within its territory a Jewish National Home.

The territory in question stretched from the Mediterranean Sea to the eastern boundary of Mandatory Palestine, which was a border that would separate it from what was to become the future state of Iraq.

The League of Nations created a number of articles, which were in line with the original intent of the Balfour Declaration of November 29th, 1917.  At the last minute, however, a new article was introduced by the British Colonial Office: article number 25.

At first the sudden addition of this article was not a cause for alarm but gradually it became apparent that its inclusion directly enabled Great Britain in 1921 to tear away all the territory of geographical Palestine, east of the River Jordan, and give it to the Arab Hashemite family; the territory to become Trans-Jordan and led by the emir Abdullah.

Britain presented this gift to Abdullah, the son of the Sherif of Mecca, as a consolation prize for its awarding of the Hedjaz territory and Arabia, which included Mecca, to the rival Saud family: That vast territory is now Saudi Arabia.

British officials also claimed that the gift of Mandatory Palestine east of the Jordan River was in gratitude to the Hashemites for their contribution in helping defeat the Turks.  However, even T.S. Lawrence later described in derisory terms the Hashemite role as “a side show of a side show.”

This was the first partition of Palestine and created a brand new entity 87 years ago covering some 35,000 square miles or nearly four-fifths of the geographical territory of Palestine.  Immediately Jewish residence in the territory was forbidden and it became in effect judenrein – the German term for the ethnic cleansing of Jews from a territory.

This betrayal by none other than Winston Churchill, the Colonial Secretary at the time, was a devastating blow to the Jewish and Zionist leadership, which now saw the promised Jewish homeland reduced to the remaining narrow territory between the Mediterranean Sea and the River Jordan – an area barely 50 miles at its widest.

Shortly after, in 1923, the British and French colonial powers also divided up the northern part of the Palestine Mandate. Britain stripped away the Golan Heights (ancient biblical Bashan) and gave it to French occupied Syria.

The Balfour Declaration issued by Lord Balfour, British Foreign Secretary, never envisaged that the Jordan River would be the eastern boundary of the reconstituted Jewish homeland.  Indeed, the Zionist leadership had put forward in February 1919 its first submission that the eastern boundary would run well east of the Hedjaz railway. The incorporation of the railway would be an economically essential requirement for the Jewish community living east of the River Jordan as well as providing it with vital security.

The squabbling by the French and British colonial powers over the final frontiers of the Palestine Mandate had earlier led the London Times to urge Paris to accept sensible and rational frontiers in both the north and east of Jewish Palestine.  As early as September 19th, 1919 it had thundered in an editorial:

“The Jordan will not do as the eastern frontier of Palestine … Palestine must have a good military frontier east of Jordan … Our duty as Mandatory is to make Jewish Palestine not a struggling state but one that is capable of vigorous and independent life … “

But Jewish aspirations inevitably were dashed as a new British Foreign Secretary, Lord Curzon, took the place of Lord Balfour.  This new British official within weeks of succeeding Balfour made it clear that Britain was intent upon separating Transjordan from Palestine: the first two-state solution.

The succeeding history of the remaining one fifth of the original territory promised to the Jewish people by Lord Balfour and the British government was one of continuing British betrayal as each successive Mandatory administration displayed pro-Arab and anti-Jewish policies.

During its administration up until 1947, Britain severely restricted Jewish immigration and purchases of land while turning a blind eye to massive illegal Arab immigration into the territory from neighboring Arab states.

Britain’s sorry record of appeasement of the Arabs, at the expense of Jewish destiny in the remaining territory, culminated in the infamous 1939 White Paper, which limited Jewish immigration to just 75,000 souls for the next five years. This onerous and draconian policy, coming as it did on the eve of the outbreak of World War 2, was a death blow to millions of Jews attempting to flee extermination by Nazi Germany.

Britain’s mismanagement of the Mandate finally led to the United Nation’s Partition Plan of 1947.  The Jewish Agency reluctantly accepted this additional dismemberment of what was left in Mandatory Palestine of the promised Jewish National Home.

They did this in order to provide a refuge for the surviving Jewish remnants of the Holocaust and for the growing numbers of Jewish refugees being driven out of their homes throughout the Arab world.  In contrast, the Arab regimes rejected the Partition Plan.  Then, as now, they worked against the existence of an independent Jewish state.

Israel was officially re-born as a sovereign nation in 1948 and its 600,000 Jews fought to survive the massive Arab onslaught, which was intended to wipe out the Jewish state.

In 1948, Trans-Jordan, renamed the Kingdom of Jordan since 1946, had joined the other Arab nations in invading the Jewish state, illegally annexing the Biblical and ancestral Jewish heartland of Judea and Samaria and renaming it the West Bank.  Only Britain and Pakistan recognized the annexation.

The war ended in tortuous armistice lines resulting in an Israeli border a mere nine miles wide at the most densely populated area, which stretched from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordanian occupied West Bank. Israel’s late Foreign Minister, Abba Eban, described these dangerously vulnerable armistice lines as the Auschwitz borders.

Nineteen years later the Arab states declared again their imminent intention to destroy Israel.  In the June 1967 Six Day War Israel liberated Judea and Samaria from Jordan in a defensive war.  Israel offered to give away the newly liberated West Bank to the Hashemite regime in Jordan and the Gaza Strip to its erstwhile Egyptian occupiers in return for a full and lasting peace. But the Arab League, meeting in Khartoum in August, 1967, delivered the infamous three No’s: No peace with Israel, no negotiations with Israel, no recognition of Israel.

It is within the narrow territory remaining for the Jewish state, if one includes Judea and Samaria, that the world now demands the establishment of yet another Arab state.  Hamas controlled Gaza would be included in this future state to be called Palestine; a state which has never existed before by that name in all of recorded history – certainly not as an independent Arab state.

(The Rest of The Article)

-Victor Sharpe is a freelance writer and author of Politicide: The attempted murder of the Jewish State.

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What the World speaks of today when they say “two-State solution” is in actuality a three-State solution supposedly necessary only because of the Arab insatiable desire to destroy Israel, and their deplorable willingness to use their fellow Arabs as the political pawns to do so.  Forcing a so-called “two-state solution” on Israel would be horribly unjust.  Its’ only accomplishment would be to once again take from the Jewish people what is legally and rightfully theirs, to appease the covetous Arabs.  How sad it is that we still today see the West going down this same failed path. Western acquiescence to the reavageous Arab desire for more land is what has created the problem in the Middle East that we struggle with today.  It is folly to believe that it is actually the solution.

A Contiguous Palestinian State?

by WrathofG-d ( 6 Comments › )
Filed under Gaza, Israel, Palestinians at January 27th, 2009 - 3:30 pm

A ”CONTINGUOUS ‘PALESTINIAN’ STATE”, MR. OBAMA?

In Obama’s first interview as President of The United States  (see thread below) he states that his final solution to the Arab/Israel conflict would include a “contiguous Palestinian State”.

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Let’s go to a map.

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On the bottom left of the map, near Egypt, is “the Gaza Strip”, on the right side of the map in red lettering is ” Judea and Samaria (mistakenly referred to as “The West Bank”).  These two area consist of what is often referred to as “The Palestinian Territories”, and what the Arabs demand to make a part of their supposedly desired State.  Obama, parroting the Arab argument, stated that any future Palestinian State would be contiguous.

What he didn’t mention however is that the only way this “contiguous Palestinian state” can be accomplished is to split Israel in half, and effectively create two separate cantons.  Beyond the obvious inequity of this suggestion, it would only further destabilize the area, and contribute drastically to a decease in Israel’s security.  I am sure this is what is intended by the Arabs when they make this suggestion, but I question President Obama.

What the Obama Administration seems not to recognize is that they are actively assisting the Arabs in moving forward with their stated goal of destroying Israel by using what is known as the P.L.O. Phased Plan.  This is not surprising however as all so-called “peace” negotiations are being made with Abu Mazen/Mahmood Abbas, who co-founded the P.L.O. with Yassir Arafat.

These are the three main points of the Phased Plan:

  • Through the “armed struggle” (i.e., terrorism), to establish an “independent combatant national authority” over any territory that is “liberated” from Israeli rule. (Article 2)
  • To continue the struggle against Israel, using the territory of the national authority as a base of operations. (Article 4)
  • To provoke an all-out war in which Israel’s Arab neighbors destroy it entirely (“liberate all Palestinian territory”). (Article 8 )

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Any deal which allows the creation of a “contiguous Palestinian State” will per the Phased Plan, reset the clock all the way back to the original 1947 Partition Plan when the Arabs (NOT “Palestinians” however) initially rejected a State, and instead chose a war of annihilation against Israel.  The Arabs will through negotiations, get what they were incapable of achieving through Terrorism alone.  The problem however, as stated in their Phased Plan, and as was evidenced by their response to Israel’s peace gesture of its 2005 expulsion of all Jews from Gaza,  is that a contiguous Palestinian State will only be the beginning of the next phase, and not and end to the conflict.